tgBot<wayneoutthere> hey @neothethird i noticed that your stats.ubports page is literally 'off the charts'.  … Literally. … Like.. there isn't a 10,000  … we've passed the limits of the graph.   … good problem!00:06
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> #BlameMarius00:07
tgBot<Shivam Dubey> Hii00:19
xorpadBlame Canada!00:19
tgBot<Xorpad> How come I don't see hammerhead image in any of the image downloads from ubports?00:22
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @xorpad, this is poetry.  When teh world was going down they needed a scapegoat. … They found Canada.00:23
xorpaddo i use the generic or custom downloads and add the hammerhead stuff to the build tree/script?00:24
xorpadI was playing with building ubuntu touch, and I couldn't find anywhere a hammerhead download00:25
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xorpadis that everything I need to build the image?00:26
xorpadbecause i'm on that page right now, before you posted it00:26
xorpadAlso, tomorrow I get my nexus 4 i lent out back from the person who has it:D00:27
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tgBot<mariogrip> @xorpad, you can use the rootstock installer02:11
tgBot<mariogrip> https://github.com/ubports/rootstock-ng02:11
tgBot<mariogrip> (Photo, 1280x663) https://irc.ubports.com/mH5f6uQp/file_1026.jpg02:45
xorpad@mariogrip i didn't see any configurations that work for hammerhead02:45
tgBot<mariogrip> A beast! it's building unity8 now02:46
xorpadI built the script just to see what it produced02:46
tgBot<mariogrip> @xorpad, that script is to install the ubuntu rootfs02:46
xorpadyeah... I'm trying to move away from building as part of the android tree02:46
xorpadlike i've been working on making things build out of the tree02:47
xorpadmy goal, is to boot ubports on bullhead and make it seem semi-functional02:47
xorpadfor now02:47
xorpadobviously i'll keep working on it02:48
tgBot<mariogrip> ah! gotyah, sorry that script is for installing ubuntu touch. here is an ubuntu touch kernel that is built out of tree02:49
tgBot<mariogrip> https://github.com/ubports/kernel_bq_m1002:49
tgBot<mariogrip> maybe that can help guide you02:49
tgBot<mariogrip> https://github.com/ubports/kernel_bq_m10/blob/ubuntu/aquaris_m10_FHD-build.sh02:49
xorpadI have better things to guide me than a git repo02:49
xorpadbut the build script might help02:49
xorpadI need to figure out how to build a working bootable system with binary blobs and everything02:50
xorpadbut don't tell me how02:50
xorpadI want to figure it out by hacking around and learning the system02:50
xorpadI love non-malicious hacking02:50
tgBot<mariogrip> okey, I will stay quiet :)02:50
xorpad@mariogrip: If I don't get it in a day or 2 i'll ask for hints02:51
tgBot<mariogrip> :)02:51
xorpadbut I do projects half to do the project and half to challenge me and force me to grow02:51
xorpadlike, I'm doing this because it's hard, not because it's easy02:51
xorpadHopefully within a month or 2 I can get nexus 5x working as well as nexus 502:58
xorpadThen I'll try something harder, like a exynos samsung phone02:59
xorpadI have an s5 neo and an s7 exynos03:00
xorpadso I can play with those:D03:00
xorpadI dunno, I have a lot of things i want to do for this project03:02
Sander^homeHi. Anyone know where to buy E4.5?03:28
xorpadwhat is E4.5?03:28
Sander^homethe first solid ubuntu phone.03:36
xorpadHave you looks online for used ones in your area?03:37
Sander^homeI did check ebay, didnt see any yet03:37
xorpadI got a sweet deal today03:37
xorpad2 unopened nexus 5x's for $40003:37
xorpadthat's like 2 for the price of one03:38
Sander^homeDoes it got the redundancy needed?03:38
xorpadwhat do you mean?03:38
Sander^homeubuntu phone is cheaper03:38
Sander^homecondensator redundancy03:38
xorpadI don't know... I just got them so I can work on porting ubuntu touch to the 5x03:38
Sander^homeI'm unsure which one who was ordered at the same time as E4.5. thats the most durable samsung03:39
xorpadyeah, os development especially low level stuff like kernel, are my main area of interest in computer science03:39
xorpadI've been learning/practicing for a long time03:39
Sander^homeNice, I also have a degree within that.03:40
xorpadI don't have any formal education, i'm self taught03:40
xorpadwell, i studied health sciences03:40
Sander^homeBeen helping with some reporting of some bugs kernel wise and ubuntu wise03:40
xorpadanything that helps the project is good03:40
xorpadeven if you're not coding you can be useful03:41
Sander^homecool, I think "missing syndrome" sickness becouse of foods is the biggest problem03:41
Sander^homeI am a coder03:41
xorpadoh cool03:41
xorpadwhat kind of things do you like to code most?03:41
Sander^homeusing firebase + c9.io03:42
Sander^homedidnt release anything yet. Just working part time with it at the moment with a friend03:42
xorpadI'm making an RPG with my friend, we already have been planning out how we want to do it03:43
xorpadhe's an artist/graphic designer, i'm a coder, and we're both into fantasy/mideval times stuff03:43
Sander^homenice, what kinda game do you make?03:45
Sander^homeconsidering doing anything ubuntu wise?03:46
xorpadnot for the game... It's going to be an interactive novel03:46
xorpadBut ubuntu touch... Well i'm totally don't for working on that whenever I can03:47
xorpadawesome project03:47
Sander^homefirebase is nice for webapps becouse its the fastest backend service with connection everywhere redundant datacenter with really little delay everywhere so interactive apps wont be slow.03:49
Sander^homebought be google03:50
Sander^homeso webapps can use it directly with only a frontend in html03:50
Sander^homeAre you into coding with javascript?03:50
xorpadno, i know some coffee script though03:51
xorpadbut i like c, python, and assembly03:51
* xorpad sighs03:53
xorpadI did a lot today, but none of it made any progress other than getting things out of the way that i have to do to get fully set up for wokring on this project03:53
Sander^home_Same as me i'm into c, python and assembly myself03:53
xorpadthe perfect trifecta03:54
Sander^home_perfect for ubuntu phone03:54
xorpadyou write your heavy lifting in assembly, your base functionality in C, compile them into a library, and use python to make the framework03:54
Sander^home_webapps in javascript too I guess?03:56
xorpadNo... I don't like web development03:57
xorpadI used to do it as a kid and I developed a hate for it when I became self-employed and always working as a preteen03:57
xorpadback in those days, people would pay you $300 to write a basic html site for their small business03:57
xorpadlike, just simple html03:58
xorpadJ just like doing low level coding and hardware programming03:59
xorpadwell, and compiler stuff, an I've dabbled with AI03:59
xorpadbut mostly OS/kernel dev03:59
xorpadI started learning it almost 15 years ago03:59
Sander^home_Seems like your in the same wave as me then:)04:00
Sander^home_I really like #bash and #awk04:00
xorpadI've been learning bash recently and regex04:01
tgBot<neothethird> @wayneoutthere, keep in mind, that's no an accurate number ;)06:08
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tgBot<samitormanen> Any possibility to communicate through whatsupp with ubports?07:35
tgBot<bastos777> @ferry_toth, +1 proper Wirkung Bluetooth would be fantastic!07:35
tgBot<bastos777> @samitormanen, There is loquiim https://openstore.ubports.com/app/loquiim.nfsprodriver07:51
tgBot<bastos777> But afaik it is not very stabile ATM...07:51
tgBot<bastos777> But maybe you want to upgrade your friends and family a bit in terms of performant messaging services 😎 than try the really well working telegram app. Supergroups are available in the tg webapp.07:55
tgBot<bastos777> Or. Help building future coming to Ubuntu touch by using and supporting the matrix.org app uMatriks https://openstore.ubports.com/app/umatriks.larreamikel07:57
tgBot<Stereofont> @Sander^home, I think some of the Android version were sold with Fnac branding in France07:59
tgBot<M D> Good morning everyone08:02
tgBot<M D> Are there any app for videocalls yet?08:02
tgBot<samitormanen> @bastos777, Ok. Thanks!08:03
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tgBot<Zephoro> @xorpad, Wow, plz ship one to me. :308:25
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tgBot<Jaume81> @popescu_sorin, My apolozige, I don't want to ofense you, it's a joke Mr. Popescu Sorin 👍. like you talked me in Spanish.  But I think Ubports only make Ubuntu Touch, to convergence all device. Of course at the moment there aren't devices with arm but in a future maybe will be, now with a tv or monitor you can get a desktop limited expirience because there aren't libreoffice or the browser haven't got user desktop agent.08:25
guinhas_4Hello! Anyone knows if there's a way to pass sound through hdmi and not the speakers of the M10FHD? thanks08:57
tgBot<Stereofont> @M D, Ring looks like the one with potential08:59
tgBot<M D> Thanks Lio. I Will give it a look09:04
tgBot<Stereofont> @M D, Not in UT yet09:23
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> @Jaume81, Actually with Libertine is possible to have libreoffice/desktop browser such as firefox09:25
tgBot<M D> Yeah I realized that is not available in UT yet10:09
tgBot<Jaume81> @TronFourtyTwo, what's libertine?11:03
tgBot<Guido> Libertine is a container solution in order to run X apps via Xmir. You find more details on the ubports wiki here.11:28
tgBot<Guido> https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Libertine%3A-install-and-manage-desktop-applications11:28
tgBot<Guido> After setting up the container, you require addittionally the Desktop X App Scope from the Ubuntu Store (it's not yet in the Openstore, hope that it will be in the future ;-)). Then, all the installed apps show up on the scope where you can launch them.11:30
tgBot<delijati> https://github.com/TronFourtyTwo/OnTheRoad for the cli part11:32
tgBot<delijati> the scope is to load the installed x apps11:32
tgBot<delijati> it would be nice to have all in one place ;)11:33
tgBot<Guido> However, there are some restrictions depending on the apps using Qt or GTK libraries. For some apps the keyboard does not show up. However, most of the important apps like Libreoffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. work like a charm. I used them for over a year on the phone.11:37
tgBot<Jaume81> ok. And Ubuntu Touch can I use snaps?11:59
tgBot<Flohack> @Jaume81, Not now, but with the next major release it could be possible. Current kernels and 15.04 are missing snap support from upstream12:00
guinhas_4Hello! Anyone knows if there's a way to pass sound through hdmi and not the speakers of the M10FHD? thanks12:03
tgBot<hwpplayer1> Hi people i want to talk about some packages where should i talk that ubuntu freenode or here ? It is about quantum science packages12:07
tgBot<bastos777> @guinhas_4, Unfortunately I can not help. But if you want to have more sustainable awareness for your question you can use the ubports forum support section.12:07
guinhas_4I'll do that then... Thank you very much!12:11
tgBot<Jaume81> @Flohack, 👍. Sometimes I think come back to Android but it's only a few things like nfc payments, sync accounts (thanks for caldav, it wait carddav abd task), a browser can use webs, or location wheater. I can't get it in the scope. With apps it's more easy but with a browser can use. Some bugs like the keyboard are awful. The scopes has very potencial and if it compare with android widgeds isn't the same. The scope is more nice.12:18
tgBot<Flohack> @Jaume81, Keyboard bug in wwebapps and browser is onto the next OTA-3 schedule ;)12:18
tgBot<Jaume81> @Flohack, I asked sometimes but anybody answer, is Ubuntu Touch more or les secure than other OS? I mean if somebody can break and spy the screen or files, make a hack.12:28
tgBot<Flohack> @Jaume81, Hard to tell. But we cannot provide digitally signed images that work only when they are correct, as we have to unlock bootloaders. Thats of course less secure than original Android12:30
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tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> holy crap.12:56
tgBot<M D> How much difference is there today between stable and rc?13:24
tgBot<JavierPuche> @TronFourtyTwo, Where do you download firefox for arm from? Raspberry package is all right? I guess android apk is not...13:24
tgBot<Jaume81> @Flohack, 👍. But I have the Meizu Pro5 Ubuntu then the bootloader would have to be lock, right? … If it's unlock means that the fuck seller lie me and he did a bad Ubuntu flash.13:29
tgBot<Flohack> @Jaume81, No idea why this would be bad, you can always reflash, and you should, before using it13:30
tgBot<Jaume81> @Flohack, I don't have a windows pc or ubuntu pc to do it. I was read about it and I think it's better do by a ubuntu pc. When I bought I did a restore factory setting and install UBports OS, is it enought?13:34
tgBot<Flohack> How did you install our UBports without a PC?13:34
tgBot<JBBgameich> @JavierPuche, From packages.ubuntu.com I guess13:40
tgBot<JavierPuche> 👍 thanks13:51
tgBot<twinkybot> How do I sync with nextcloud the contacts on UT from RC channel? The calendar is recognized but no contacts show up.13:52
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> @JavierPuche, in the libertine container you can easily install it with apt … see the wiki for details14:00
tgBot<JavierPuche> Ups, I'll do, thanks14:00
tgBot<Jaume81> @Flohack, with a macbook, but it isn't mine.14:09
tgBot<Jaume81> and with ubports tool.14:09
tgBot<konefriikki> macbook is a pc14:10
tgBot<Jaume81> yes but it isn't mine, a friend.14:19
tgBot<Jaume81> simply, I would have to ask again14:20
tgBot<Jaume81> I was install the stable version and I have some bugs.14:21
tgBot<Flohack> @Jaume81, You can switch channels on the phone, without reinstall now14:22
tgBot<Jaume81> yes, to other channels and I did but I couldn't come back to the stable and I restore on phone.14:27
tgBot<Jujuyeh> We are working on a Suru Palette for Ubuntu Touch apps.  If someone is interested, join https://t.me/joinchat/Cfg4oQ4Z-s3uWnFOCSiiww17:22
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Stereofont, i saw wire is already in UT store (old one).  Wire comes highly reviewed for security and has voip in web browser...17:25
tgBot<Lorxu> Wire uses the same protocol as Matrix (although they both wrote their own implementation)17:26
tgBot<Lorxu> It's rather neat, they even opened their servers recently under AGPLv3+17:26
tgBot<Lorxu> But no instructions to host your own yet17:27
tgBot<Lorxu> Also still waiting for them to support libre Android17:30
xorpadgood morning folks17:30
tgBot<Lorxu> Matrix's Android client works without any of the proprietary Google libraries17:30
xorpadwell, it's afternoon here, but I just woke up so it feels like morning17:31
tgBot<Lorxu> Good TZAG17:31
xorpadany kernel related bugs in hammerhead that I could address today as a warm-up while I do my usual slow journey towards productiveness?17:32
tgBot<Lorxu> Kernel bugs as warmup, geez lol17:32
tgBot<Lorxu> Extreme much? :P17:32
xorpadLorxu: the warpup towards porting touch to bullhead device17:33
tgBot<Lorxu> Ah17:33
tgBot<Lorxu> On that note, @Flohack or others, is UBports joining Hacktoberfest?17:34
tgBot<Lorxu> Because you really, really should17:34
xorpadlike looking for a bug as opposed to learning stuff I need to learn to do that task17:34
tgBot<Lorxu> Even my repo that nobody tends to care about got people trying to fix bugs17:34
xorpadWhat and where is that?17:34
tgBot<Lorxu> https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/17:34
tgBot<Lorxu> People can win a t-shirt by making 4 pull requests. Only thing UBports needs to do is label some issues that people could fix with "Hacktoberfest", that's all17:35
xorpadooo digital ocean... After trying dozens of vps providers, avoiding any that charged ridiculous prices, they are the best i've found17:35
xorpadall my server needs I get from them17:35
tgBot<Lorxu> Really, we need to join Hacktoberfest17:41
tgBot<Lorxu> It's just tagging some issues17:41
tgBot<Lorxu> Because of Hacktoberfest someone is setting up AppImages and a CI for Pext already and someone is volunteering to try to figure out how well Pext runs on Windows. I have had more contributors today than in two years17:41
tgBot<Lorxu> AsteroidOS also got some nice bugfixes out of it17:42
tgBot<Lorxu> @mariogrip @neothethird @UniversalSuperBox @nfsprodriver Also poking you because you're in the UBports org, you should really tag issues with "Hacktoberfest": https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/#resources17:44
tgBot<Lorxu> I really wouldn't be pinging people personally like this if I didn't see just how great an opportunity this is17:45
tgBot<Lorxu> Because I know it's annoying to people17:45
xorpadoh i thought it was a hacker conference by the name17:50
xorpadI was like, all right another conference to go to every year or watch every talk from on youtube17:50
tgBot<Lorxu> Well it does sound like something I'd try to go to :P17:50
tgBot<Lorxu> Heh, last time I went to CCC I actually didn't go to a single talk17:50
tgBot<Lorxu> Too busy socializing, I had friends for once, like wtf lol, but was awesome17:50
xorpadI went to 33c3, but I couldn't afford a place to stay while I was there so I was homeless for my week long vacation to germany17:51
tgBot<Lorxu> Also I ended up in a bathroom rave by following 2 guys carrying an oversize tetris piece while a guy in an unicorn costume was following them17:51
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> That was probably the most awesome sentence I've ever read17:52
tgBot<Lorxu> They kept blocking the escalators because nobody could walk past them :P17:53
tgBot<bhushanshah> Talking of cc3c Will be visiting bcc for qtws this week..17:53
tgBot<Lorxu> BCC?17:54
tgBot<bhushanshah> Berlin Congress center17:54
tgBot<bhushanshah> Venue of cc3c17:54
tgBot<Lorxu> Ah17:54
tgBot<Lorxu> Shame they moved so you can't just lock yourself in a bathroom there until they start17:54
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Lorxu, good to know.17:59
xorpadwait, so we get could all get t-shirts for making pull requests we would make anyways if the project is part of it?18:00
tgBot<Lorxu> @xorpad, I guess so, if you sign up for it and you close issues that are tagged Hacktoberfest18:00
xorpadoh it's specific issues18:00
tgBot<Lorxu> By making pull requests for them18:00
tgBot<Lorxu> Yeah, they need to be tagged by maintainers18:00
xorpadI thought it was any legitamte contribution18:01
tgBot<Lorxu> So I also assume you can't make issues for your own projects :P18:01
tgBot<Flohack> @Lorxu, Yes we discussed it, cou,d be that we come closer ^18:01
tgBot<Lorxu> Just do it, it's only tagging issues18:01
tgBot<Lorxu> Do it do it do it :P18:01
tgBot<Flohack> 😆18:02
tgBot<Lorxu> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/SXD5589Q/file_1027.webp18:02
xorpadfrom the little experience I have in the open source community I've come to suspect that offering rewards for contributions doesn't make them more likely to get made18:03
xorpadMost people to it because they want the change for themselves, they want to put it on their resume, they have a way to profit from it while not compromising the FOSS liscenses... I have all those reasons but I'm not money hungry so the profit one is not a true factor for me18:04
xorpadI just do have ideas that could make money, but I'd rather code other things that are challenging and fun to work on than try to do the money making things18:05
* xorpad shrugs18:05
xorpadLike, obviously there's going to be paid apps, and obviously there's going to be forks of the project that are made for profit and contain components not covered by the FOSS licenses18:06
xorpadbut right now none of those things are what I want to do18:06
xorpadIt's nice to not be money driven, except it usually means you don't have much to spend when you want something18:07
tgBot<gurucubano> Maybe you want follow or even support the crowdfunding campain at https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/  they lack some 12% to reach the goal of $1.500.000 - I spent right now $599 to get there18:07
xorpadNo, I don't want to support the crowd funding campain for a project that could take away from this projects potential user base18:08
tgBot<Lorxu> I had 3 people offering help for Hacktoberfest on my project today already, wow18:10
tgBot<gurucubano> I support the UT for years, and now the UBports too (just look into the forum); the new project is not to withdraw people from here, it's just a new start of a really free phone (without any Android blobs inside)18:12
xorpadI just got into phone programming and I wanted to make a linux based OS that was more linux-like and less bloated than android and less locked down than iOS. I was working on it for a while before I found out this project was revived after cannonical dropped it18:14
xorpadso I came here when I found out ubuntu touch wasn't a dead project that never got enough love18:14
tgBot<Lorxu> That's neat18:15
xorpadOn my own it would have taken me 10 years to get where ubports is right now18:16
xorpadIf I did it all day ever day, which is typical of me when coding18:16
xorpadjust waiting for one massive git clone to finish then I'm gonna be coding until I'm too tired to go on18:17
tgBot<Lorxu> I remember those days of my life, was cool :)18:18
xorpadI'm on disability, so I can literally code all day... But I can't get a job as a programmer because deadlines and stress me out and working on easy things or things I already know everything about is boring to me18:21
xorpadand by stress me out I mean cause clinical anxiety issues18:22
tgBot<Lorxu> Ah, I understand that18:38
xorpadyeah... but I've been getting better. 10 years ago I really needed to be on disability, now I'm following my doctors advice and making my return to normal life slow and comfortable18:43
xorpadoopss... this is OT18:43
xorpadsorry guys18:43
tgBot<Lorxu> It's fine, I'd say more but I don't really want to tell 840+ people how many issues I have :P18:44
xorpadhah, I have no verbal/typing filter... stuff just comes out18:45
tgBot<Lorxu> My filter is really inconsistent and based on my mental state at any moment18:45
tgBot<Lorxu> Sometimes I'll say nothing, something way too much18:45
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tgBot<Flohack> @Lorxu, We discusses Hacktober fest and our issue is, we got not the right documentation to let foreigners efficiently work for it. Not all our issues tickets are really solvable without some experience. But we might run over them and pluck what we can =)18:59
tgBot<Lorxu> Definitely would recommend trying to tag as much as you can19:19
xorpadOkay, the git repo is synced, I have the official msm kernel with bullhead branch checked out, same for franco kernel, and lineageos kernel19:30
xorpadNow I'm gonna go buy some redbull and get to work19:30
xorpadAlso I have the latest stable mainline kernel19:30
tgBot<LarreaMikel> @Flohack, At least you can get more visibility, as devs browse the tagged issues... Who knows.19:36
xorpadfree auditing too19:36
tgBot<Flohack> yep19:36
xorpadan audit of all the kernels and the entire platform including every package... would probably cost half a million dollars if you wanted top security researchers19:37
xorpadso giving people a reason to read your code is always a good thing19:38
xorpadI mean, an audit of one kernel would cost you $50,000 if you hire someone cheap19:38
tgBot<Flohack> ^^ yeah19:38
xorpadif you hire someone good, in the hundreds of thousands19:39
xorpadI'm not good enough at finding vulns to do a proper audit or you'd get it for free19:39
xorpadI can find a lot of them, but I also miss a lot of them19:39
xorpadanywhoo... I'm going to meet someone to buy another phone but he's right across the street19:41
xorpad$50 for a nexus 4 that was used for less than a year and has 95% battery health acordding to an app19:41
tgBot<vanyasem> which one is better in our opinion: Nexus 4 or Nexus 5?19:51
tgBot<vanyasem> for UBports19:51
tgBot<vanyasem> I have both in good condition and I'm not sure which one to pick19:52
tgBot<LarreaMikel> Nexus 5.19:52
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> 519:52
tgBot<vanyasem> I was hoping you would say 419:52
tgBot<vanyasem> because I already have UBports on my N5 and I was feeling like reflashing something19:52
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> You asked which one was better, not which one was more convenient for you. :P19:52
tgBot<neothethird> @vanyasem, the nexus 5 has more powerful hardware and a bigger screen. The port is pretty much complete on both devices, but the nexus 5 has a couple more issues. Minor stuff, but it's there. Else than that, the round edges on the nexus 4 make the swipe gestures feel very oddly satisfying :D20:07
tgBot<vanyasem> yep, I love the edges on the n420:07
tgBot<vanyasem> isn't it terrible slow?20:07
tgBot<neothethird> it's ok. Used it as my daily driver a couple months back for a while, actually.20:08
tgBot<neothethird> but yeah, it's slower than the other devices20:09
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> ...coff... N4 it is not a core device ...coff...20:10
xorpadhow's the nexus 4 ubuntu touch port?20:11
tgBot<Montefrio> hi, i have a Nexus 4 with Lineage-OS . will you porting the base 16.04 of U-Touch to the nexus 4 or will it stay on the 15.04 base?20:11
xorpadI'm about to try it20:11
xorpadi just got my nexus 4 back from the guy i lent it to like 10 minutes ago, I asked him for it back for this project, and lent him a cheap $50 phone from china to use for now(he is saving up money to replace his phone)20:12
xorpadit's the guy who works at the store by my house, his phone died and he's saving up for a pixel xl 220:12
tgBotНет Кредитопомойкам was added by: Нет Кредитопомойкам20:50
tgBot<vanyasem> @Нет Кредитопомойкам, ебать хендл20:51
tgBot<vanyasem> это лучшее, я скриню20:51
tgBot<vanyasem> welcome20:51
xorpadDoes Ubuntu Touch project eventually have a plan to add NFC support?20:59
xorpadbecause most of the NFC modules in most phones have source in the mainline linux kernel20:59
xorpadI could port those drivers into all the ubuntu touch kernels20:59
xorpadalthough i only have a mako and hammerhead so other would have to test my builds21:00
xorpadI plan to get all the supported devices, but I can't afford to buy them all at once21:00
tgBot<Flohack> @xorpad, I think NFC is in libhybris, if so, yes we can support it somehow21:01
xorpad@Flowhack, the question was, should I do it... not if we could21:02
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xorpadwe can for most devices since NFC radios aren't just android blobs they are supported by linux kernel using source code of drivers21:03
xorpadso it would be trivial to add kernel level support, not sure about implementing protocols21:03
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tgBot<LarreaMikel> What UT phones have nfc ?21:04
tgBot<Flohack> @xorpad, Basically try to stick with what the mainline kernel for this device did for nfc, then libhybris should pick it up. I dont know maybe even for some devices the nfc drivers are still in place21:05
tgBot<LarreaMikel> nexus 4 and. 5?21:05
tgBot<Flohack> N5 mainly21:05
tgBot<Flohack> N4 maybe dunno ^^21:05
xorpad@flo hack cool, thanks21:05
tgBot<LarreaMikel> It should... As my old galaxy nexus have it.21:05
tgBot<Flohack> You can try to run test_nfc on the device21:06
tgBot<Flohack> lets see what that tells us21:06
xorpadI can't type the '_' on the keyboard in the nexus 4 build21:08
xorpadit doesn't have a key for it21:08
tgBot<Flohack> lol wtf21:08
tgBot<Flohack> hmm you need to switch to the special chars?21:08
xorpadunless i'm just totally blind21:08
xorpadoh i'm a moron21:09
tgBot<Flohack> nevermind 😆21:09
xorpadI saw the 1/2 key, and thought it was for fractions not that it was indicating one of the 2 symbols pages was being displayed21:09
xorpadit failed, then it crashed and did a core dump21:10
tgBot<Flohack> hehe yes21:10
tgBot<Flohack> thats what libhybris tests are doing21:10
xorpadbut first it said the hardware module was not supported21:10
tgBot<Flohack> they never work when they should21:10
tgBot<Flohack> so probably its not in place or not added to the tree yes21:11
xorpador the nexus 4 didn't get linux support because the nfc module was already outdated when the linux kernel started supporting NFC without third party kernel modules21:12
tgBot<Flohack> uhm that would be bad luck21:12
tgBot<Flohack> So you tried oin N4?21:12
tgBot<Flohack> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ test_nfc … Starting test_nfc. … Finding NFC hardware module. … test_nfc: test_nfc.c:156: testNfc: Assertion `hwModule != ((void *)0)' failed. … Aborted (core dumped) … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$21:16
tgBot<Flohack> this is from N5 😆21:16
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> My favorite are  … ```5 second wait... … Segmentation fault (core dumped) … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$```21:17
tgBot<Flohack> ^^21:20
tgBot<Flohack> Could the tests not end gracefully, always sgfaulting or at least coredumping21:20
tgBot<Flohack> it hurts my eyes.21:20
tgBot<bastos777> @gurucubano, Think so too. I am more humanistic and sustainability driven, so I support the fairphone guys, but both are not taking user base but in opposite enhancing it IMO.21:28
tgBot<malditobastardo> @wayneoutthere, The Wire versión available is good? Or is just web based one?21:31
tgBot<bastos777> Welcome @bheemajeeshbabu by the way....21:35
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @malditobastardo, seems like apparently not awesome.  it won't rotate on my phone... however, I'm going to at least try to log in... and see if it works.  if anyone wants to test it with me...21:42
tgBot<malditobastardo> @wayneoutthere, Haha great. Thanks for being a tester. I had enough with loquiim and skype web bases21:44
tgBot<wayneoutthere> just setting it up now .  i wonder why it wont' auto-rotate.  turns my whole phone on the side.  gives me neck cramps.21:44
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> Yeah, that webapp is not our best21:45
tgBot<giovanniiannotti> Hi all, after 24h I have been able to install ubports to my tablet. Looks great. Thank you all!21:46
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> @wayneoutthere, It is a feature that it won't rotate, because using it in potrait in a phone would be a pain.21:48
tgBot<wayneoutthere> oh..... a feature! :)21:48
tgBot<giovanniiannotti> And a public thanks to Lionelb who helped me21:49
tgBot<TronFourtyTwo> Anyway I tested the wire webapp in the past and it workish21:49
tgBot<wayneoutthere> brutal.  i can't enter password because keyboard gets stuck in the way21:50
tgBot<wayneoutthere> crashi-i-cola21:50
tgBot<wayneoutthere> so... @UniversalSuperBox it seems like we need another group for this.  it's 'on topic' but it's on 'antoher topic' haha21:51
tgBot<wayneoutthere> no one need to see myself and ___ other people try to get ___ app working but yet ____ number of peope would...21:51
tgBot<wayneoutthere> like a 'lab'21:51
tgBot<wayneoutthere> like 'step in the lab waynes doing ____ now"21:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> lab 121:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> lab 2, etc21:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> thoughts?21:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> ok i made 'lab 1' if anyone wants to try/join … it's called  @UT_Lab_0122:00
tgBot<wayneoutthere> then we can slip in/out of here to do lab work22:00
tgBot<wayneoutthere> i'll be in the lab ranting about wire if anyone wants to encourage me ;)22:00
tgBot<wayneoutthere> wait... that's now how a group works.. hmm22:00
tgBot<wayneoutthere> how to invite? ha22:00
tgBot<wayneoutthere> https://t.me/joinchat/Baj4lhGOmNABsfHPyYFGVQ22:01
tgBot<wayneoutthere> so this lab idea 'works'.  ... hmm. seems like a good way to move 'related but off topic' chats to an isolated room that can be used for whatever focus groups22:10
tgBot<malditobastardo> I will try wire later for sure22:21
tgBot<malditobastardo> It would be nice to have an app for video calls working22:21
tgBot<malditobastardo> The only with audio calls for me that worked was Skype22:22
tgBot<malditobastardo> I don't know if there is another. Tbh I don't like skype22:22
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> Matrix has video and audio calling, our Matrix app umatriks doesnt have this yet, and we dont know when it'll get that feature, but it's a native app that's getting attention.22:23
tgBot<Lorxu> Shouldn't be too hard to implement, just WebRTC22:24
tgBot<Lorxu> Groups is Jitsi Meet22:24
tgBot<malditobastardo> I see22:24
tgBot<malditobastardo> Jitsi?22:24
tgBot<malditobastardo> Oh22:24
tgBot<malditobastardo> I've just tried jitsi in the browser but it doesn't works22:24
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> Jitsi's website doesn't work on mobile tho22:24
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> desktop only22:24
tgBot<Lorxu> I haven't tested Riot group chats on mobile22:25
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> I've only ever used it to audio call Marius, works well.22:25
tgBot<Lorxu> I video chat 1-on-1 with my gf constantly22:26
tgBot<Lorxu> Well, when her Comcast works. Comcast is fucking incompetent22:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> TRUE.22:26
tgBot<mariogrip> @PhoenixLandPirate, I feel specal22:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> REAL.22:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> FUCKING.22:26
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> SHIT.22:26
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> @mariogrip, hmm22:30
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Lorxu, Your gf is American?22:31
tgBot<Lorxu> @PhoenixLandPirate, Yes22:31
tgBot* PhoenixLandPirate remembers this is the UBports super group … Thats coolio, we should move this into a PM or OT22:34
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> I thought we were in offtopic22:34
tgBot<UniversalSuperBox> whelp22:34

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