| roasted | snaps seem to still require authentication? | 01:19 |
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| lotuspsychje | did you fix it jayze | 04:07 |
| jayze | Yeah everything is working pretty great | 04:09 |
| jayze | although I was not able to connect to wifi on campus today. Must be something of how the wifi is setup authentication wise. | 04:09 |
| jayze | Works just fine at home when im not on the dock and authenticates. | 04:10 |
| lotuspsychje | jayze: yeah .edu networks can be a pain | 04:13 |
| jayze | yep, I am not sure exactly what the issue is there. But I am going to work on it next week for sure. | 04:14 |
| lotuspsychje | jayze: got any other bugs on artful you seen? | 04:40 |
| lotuspsychje | these are my founds https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lotuspsychje | 04:43 |
| jayze | mmm well, caffeine was crashing everytime I loaded up. | 04:52 |
| jayze | but I just removed it. | 04:52 |
| lotuspsychje | jayze: not very big issues :p | 04:53 |
| jayze | nope, not really. | 04:53 |
| lotuspsychje | jayze: overall gnome smoothness good for you on wayland? | 04:53 |
| jayze | Its been pretty stable, I did not even bother installing a LTS partition. | 04:53 |
| jayze | Very smooth. | 04:54 |
| jayze | Id try it on my desktop but I dont really want to setup dual booting on that machine. Though it would be way overpowered. | 04:54 |
| jayze | I am curious to see it run though | 04:55 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | jayze: i got stuttering issue on xorg to wayland switch | 05:06 |
| lotuspsychje | on older ati x800 | 05:06 |
| jstarnes | Hello, all. This afternoon I made a live usb of the beta iso. It worked fine on my desktop, however on my acer chromebook 14 with galliumos gave a boot error gfxboot. Is this a known issue? | 05:21 |
| lotuspsychje | jstarnes: try TAB to bypass it? | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | !nomodeset | jstarnes could also help | 05:24 |
| ubottu | jstarnes could also help: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 05:24 |
| jstarnes | I am currently on the chromebook under gallium, so testing will have to wait a bit. | 05:29 |
| jstarnes | Set up irc on phone. I will try your suggestions. | 05:39 |
| jstarnes-and | Ok 'live nomodetest' got me to the live desktop. Thanks | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | jstarnes-and | 05:44 |
| ubottu | jstarnes-and: Glad you made it! :-) | 05:44 |
| yookoala | Do you guys know much about Linux display stack? | 05:49 |
| yookoala | How does Linux treat tty console differently than the Xorg / wayland display? | 05:50 |
| yookoala | I'm still tracing a bug with Gnome, where it logs me off everytime I turn off the screen. | 05:53 |
| yookoala | But I do not know enough to the display stack to pin point the exact pacakge thats responsible. | 05:54 |
| ducasse | yookoala: you don't really need to know, if you file a bug against some package that might be involved the devs will take care of reassigning it properly | 06:36 |
| yookoala | ducasse: I have filed a bug but I don't know if devs noticed that. | 06:42 |
| yookoala | I guess I might filed it under the wrong package. | 06:42 |
| ducasse | which package did you file it against? what is the bug number? | 06:43 |
| yookoala | ducasse: bug #1721428 under gnome-shell | 06:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1721428 in Nouveau Xorg driver "Artful (17.10) Session logout after screen turned off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721428 | 06:45 |
| ducasse | give me a moment to read it | 06:46 |
| yookoala | ducasse: Thanks | 06:46 |
| ducasse | it was only filed two days ago, that's not long. i suggest posting in the discussion thread you mention to get others to first of all confirm the bug, then add their comments. that will add to it's visibility. | 06:49 |
| yookoala | ducasse: There are already others (I believe from the forum thread) commented on the issue. But I think I gotta wait then. | 06:52 |
| jstarnes-and | On the liveusb I have not been able to get sound via the speakers or headphones. Happily bluetooth ad2p do work. Any ideas? | 06:58 |
| adamitsch | Why my computer wont shut down on 17.10? | 08:06 |
| adamitsch | and my area selection screenshot doesn't work ... :/ | 08:14 |
| qqqwxlea | anybody have any success running gnome-music on 17.10 beta? | 13:18 |
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| roasted | qwxlea: I was able to launch gnome music and play a local track | 14:19 |
| roasted | it doesn't seem to understand the symlink though. My music is symlinked over autofs from a smb share on my server. | 14:19 |
| roasted | I haven't used gnome music in a long time. This is kind of blah compared to rhythmbox. :< | 14:19 |
| roasted | Is anybody else noticing any weirdness with 17.10 and Wayland? Just a minute ago I had about 3 or 4 programs open. I hit CTRL Q to close VLC and my entire session logged out. | 14:20 |
| roasted | This has happened a few times... | 14:20 |
| qwxlea | roasted: thanks, that explains some missing stuff, the startup is just very slow on first start, I forgot about it and after an hour stuff appeared | 14:21 |
| qwxlea | but so far it's stable | 14:21 |
| roasted | yeah. i mean it functioned for what few local tracks I had | 14:21 |
| roasted | but if I can't tap into a network share for my music this thing is DOA to me. :P | 14:21 |
| qwxlea | yep, went back to clementine | 14:21 |
| roasted | I also find it irritating that just by clicking a track it auto plays it | 14:21 |
| qwxlea | which is ugly... | 14:22 |
| roasted | so when I was in IRC and lcick back to gnome music to make it active window, it switched my track | 14:22 |
| roasted | I haven't used clementine in a while now. | 14:22 |
| roasted | I hav ea soft spot for Clementine -- I used it to run the music at my own wedding 5 years ago. :P | 14:22 |
| roasted | I quite like rhythmbox tho. More simplistic than Clementine but it actually has useful/expected features vs Gnome Music. | 14:22 |
| qwxlea | clementine is like the dog from GOT, ugly but powerful, potentially evil (qt) | 14:22 |
| roasted | I think I have some misguided anger towards Qt at the moment. | 14:23 |
| roasted | The appindicator is acting silly with Qt apps | 14:23 |
| qwxlea | i like krita... | 14:23 |
| roasted | so i'm finding myself looking for a new IRC client that isn't Qt just to avoid that bug | 14:23 |
| roasted | I hope it gets fixed by release though | 14:23 |
| roasted | it's maddening | 14:23 |
| qwxlea | testing polari here | 14:24 |
| roasted | I'd rather simply not use appindicator than my icons changing just by my screen locking | 14:24 |
| roasted | I'm tempted to try out polari | 14:24 |
| roasted | but I would need some sort of bouncer | 14:24 |
| roasted | I use quassel-core and quassel-client. It's gravy. | 14:24 |
| roasted | I would need to set up ZNC or something to switch clients if I want that same feature set. | 14:24 |
| roasted | and ZNC is hilarious to set up vs that of QuasselCore | 14:24 |
| madigens | roasted: https://riot.im/ | 14:24 |
| roasted | never heard of this madigens | 14:25 |
| roasted | looks neat at first glance tho | 14:25 |
| madigens | me neither until a month ago. it's an online messenger thingamabob with irc bridging | 14:25 |
| roasted | can I host it on my server? | 14:25 |
| madigens | maybe, the core is apparently opensource | 14:26 |
| qwxlea | madigens: that is not an inspiring line | 14:26 |
| qwxlea | :-) | 14:26 |
| roasted | haaa | 14:26 |
| madigens | :P | 14:26 |
| roasted | any of you running 17.10 with wayland? | 14:26 |
| qwxlea | yes | 14:26 |
| roasted | you see any random log outs when you hit certain keyboard shortcuts? | 14:27 |
| madigens | i'd love to run wayland but i don't seem to get that option | 14:27 |
| qwxlea | like what shortcuts? | 14:27 |
| roasted | like I hit CTRL Q to close VLC | 14:27 |
| roasted | an dit logged out my entire session | 14:27 |
| qwxlea | just a sec... let me try | 14:27 |
| roasted | and somehow my laptop locked up typing that as I hit space bar | 14:27 |
| roasted | like just now I did it and it closed VLC fine | 14:28 |
| roasted | but 15 mins ago | 14:28 |
| roasted | session just died as if I hit log out | 14:28 |
| qwxlea | nope works fine vlc+wayland+CTRL-Q | 14:29 |
| roasted | it's happened with other apps too | 14:29 |
| qwxlea | but i have a super-simple graphic card | 14:29 |
| roasted | I don't even use VLC. That was the first time I opened it. | 14:29 |
| qwxlea | gnome-mpv here | 14:29 |
| roasted | yeah | 14:29 |
| roasted | I dig gnome-mpv and mpv | 14:29 |
| roasted | for difference use-case scenarios | 14:29 |
| roasted | what's your experience with appindicator | 14:30 |
| roasted | are you getting any wishy washy icons? | 14:30 |
| roasted | i.e. screen times out or you lock it, come back, half are gone? | 14:30 |
| roasted | seems isolated to Qt apps for the most part | 14:31 |
| qwxlea | nope, sofar everything is great, better then kde-neon-plasma which crashed daily | 14:31 |
| qwxlea | but i have been in chrome-emacs-gnome-terminal for two days, mainly | 14:31 |
| roasted | yeah I had a bad experience with neon | 14:31 |
| roasted | it does it with apps like dropbox and nextcloud too | 14:32 |
| roasted | and quassel in my case | 14:32 |
| roasted | telegram | 14:32 |
| qwxlea | yes, i try kde every two years or so, and then go back to gnome | 14:32 |
| roasted | if I lock screen and come back telegram, quassel, dropbox gone | 14:32 |
| roasted | nextcloud remains somehow | 14:32 |
| roasted | it's squirrely | 14:32 |
| qwxlea | ok, i haven't installed those yet, let me try installing dropbox ... brb | 14:32 |
| qwxlea | installing dropbox always makes me feel a bit dirty... | 14:36 |
| roasted | yeah. I really don't use dropbox much. | 14:36 |
| roasted | 5GB of Dropbox or 1TB on my nextcloud... tough decision :P | 14:37 |
| roasted | dropbox is a good example of the issue with appindicator that 17.10 will use, tho | 14:37 |
| qwxlea | roasted: you have a private nextcloud install? | 14:38 |
| roasted | yeah | 14:38 |
| roasted | I just host it on an old light power server in my basement | 14:38 |
| roasted | threw two laptop drives in there, 2x1TB, raid1'd them. it works. :P | 14:38 |
| qwxlea | ok, testing closing my laptop, and coming back, hopefully... brb | 14:38 |
| roasted | no need to test close. Even a simple lock screen + log in (Super L, then log back in) will simulate the issue. :P | 14:39 |
| roasted | hope the bug gets more traction by release | 14:40 |
| qwxlea | ok, got myself a beer, as i am being super helpful today :-) | 14:40 |
| roasted | you see the dropbox systray icon disappear? | 14:40 |
| qwxlea | dropbox icon is gone | 14:40 |
| roasted | there's a bug somewhere. could +1 it. :P sec... | 14:40 |
| roasted | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1719192 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1719192 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "Some Top Icons Disappear After Screen Locks - 17.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:41 |
| roasted | I gotta jet for a bit. back later. thanks for the quick confirmation. :P | 14:41 |
| qwxlea | welcome! | 14:41 |
| iratemin | Looking for some assistance on a wifi problem. Upgraded 17.04 - 17.10 last night. Wifi connects but continues to show a ? instead of strength. Unable to resolve any address. | 15:03 |
| iratemin | Asking again before I wipe the laptop. | 15:03 |
| qwxlea | iratemin: you can do some debugging with nmcli | 15:04 |
| iratemin | im not experienced with that tool but can read up on it. What types of checks do you suggest running? | 15:06 |
| qwxlea | start with nmcli> some pastebin, it is probably a driver issue | 15:10 |
| iratemin | sounds good. I'll play with it tonight. thanks for the advice | 15:13 |
| qwxlea | iratemin: we had stuff like this before: https://askubuntu.com/questions/613065/unable-to-connect-to-wireless-network-following-upgrade-to-15-04 | 15:17 |
| qwxlea | have fun! | 15:17 |
| tosmann | Hi all, has anyone got any experience with the networking changes in Ubuntu 17.10 server in regard to static IPs and bridge interfaces? | 20:04 |
| tosmann | Mmmmmm.... juicy silence.... | 20:36 |
| Bashing-om | tosmann: Generalities are too broad . Got a specific question ? | 20:40 |
| tosmann | Bashing-om: Yes - I've tried setting my network preferences (static) the same way I used to in 17.04 and 16.10 ( /etc/network/interfaces). This is ignored in 17.10. I've also tried to create a /etc/systemd/network/25-myconf.network but this is also ignored. I can't find any documentation on what has changed or what should be the "preferred" way of doing things now - thus, I ask - what changed? I want to create my br0 interface that has th IP and config | 20:43 |
| tosmann | and redirect it to my enp8s4f0... | 20:44 |
| Bashing-om | tosmann: Good question that I do not know the answer to . no br0 experience here . wait for the response here of those who do know . | 20:46 |
| === qqqwxlea is now known as qwxlea | ||
| qwxlea | tosmann: the best docs i used, but that was last year or so: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-networkd#Bridge_interface | 21:11 |
| qwxlea | is tracker-preferences dead? how do i tell tracker NOT to index certain folders? | 21:14 |
| ducasse | tosmann: aiui, network configuration is now handled by netplan, but it is (or is supposed to, anyway) auto-generate config from existing /e/n/i or nm setups | 21:22 |
| ducasse | you might want to look into it anyway, 'nplan' package. i've got a link, somewhere... | 21:22 |
| tosmann | ducasse: step 1, hurdle 1: | 21:35 |
| tosmann | root@thjalfi:/etc/systemd/network# netplan ifupdown-migrate | 21:35 |
| tosmann | Unsupported method manual | 21:35 |
| tosmann | iface enp8s4f0 inet manual <---- needed in the old /e/n/i when using a bridge... | 21:36 |
| ducasse | oh, faaantastic. i was thinking of upgrading my desktop today, glad i didn't... | 21:41 |
| ducasse | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToNetplan | 21:44 |
| roasted | qwxlea: I have the opposite problem. Tracker seems to work against the default folders, but not of anything inside new folders I created, such as nextcloud, etc. | 21:46 |
| roasted | oh what the | 21:46 |
| roasted | think I just found it actually? | 21:47 |
| qwxlea | roasted: gnome-control-center > search, little star, add OTHER location | 21:47 |
| roasted | qwxlea: system settings >> search >> 3 lines in lower right corner | 21:47 |
| roasted | qwxlea: but doesn't that answer your question too as you can just disable what you don't want? | 21:47 |
| qwxlea | roasted: maybe, it might take some time for stuff to appear, disapear from the index | 21:48 |
| qwxlea | it sure is no OSX-spotlight :-( | 21:48 |
| roasted | I'm already getting results populating | 21:49 |
| roasted | so tracker must have updated | 21:49 |
| roasted | a more logical default approach would be any non-hidden dir in /home/$USER | 21:50 |
| roasted | wonder if I can just do that... | 21:50 |
| tosmann | ducasse: the magic line that will unbreak the network; "apt install ifupdown" :) Thanks for the link. I think they still have a mile to go with the migration to Netplan. It may be a good idea from a descriptive installation point of view - but from the viewpoint of a sysop of decades, it's "one more thing I have to learn and another which I can't unlearn". I've installed ifupdown and am about to reboot - let's see if the iron comes up with an active | 21:58 |
| tosmann | network again :) | 21:58 |
| Bashing-om | tosmann: fingers crossed :) | 22:05 |
| ducasse | tosmann: let's hope so :) seems it's trendy to plug in new software before it can do the stuff the old did... | 22:06 |
| tosmann | nope, still comes up on dhcp :| | 22:15 |
| kiroma | GRUB doesn't display anything for me, but still responds to keyboard actions. | 22:24 |
| kiroma | It started happening recently. | 22:24 |
| tosmann | ok, progress - installed bridge-tools (which aren't installed by default - my oversight) and rebooted, now the interfaces _are_ correctly configured - but something still tags as failed in starting the network (delaying boot for almost 2 minutes)... | 22:30 |
| Bashing-om | tosmann: ' systemd-analyze ; systemd-analyze blame ' give any hints ? | 22:47 |
| tosmann | The problem was systemd-networkd-wait-online - and it wasn't enough to do systemctl disable, it needed systemctl mask | 23:31 |
| tosmann | but at least no I have liftoff. Reboot time down to 160 seconds... | 23:31 |
| tosmann | s/no/now | 23:32 |
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