[00:26] Project daily-hammerhead build #344: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/344/ [00:28] Project ota-push build #1130: SUCCESS in 2 min 2 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1130/ [00:30] @malditobastardo, Try Hubl.in webapp [00:31] you know... hubl.in was great. i used to use it. but jitsi meet is... yeah.. also awesom and apparently you can put on your own server too [00:38] Thank you. Will try hublin [00:56] yeah, it's solid. i was thinking this kind of thing should work in UT [00:56] in fact... why doesn't it? Needs a web app? [01:05] alright there's a party in Lab 01 [01:05] Apparently @marius has notifications working on Matrix! [01:05] anyone who cares jump in the lab and join the focused chat [01:06] Here. Click this if you care: https://t.me/joinchat/Baj4lhGOmNABsfHPyYFGVQ [02:05] What this lab @wayneoutthere ? [02:07] Fwd from wayneoutthere: it's a matrix notification lab right now but it can be used for whatever you like [02:09] How does it work ? [03:24] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/05/smartphone-addiction-silicon-valley-dystopia [04:11] @bastos777, Thanks. 😊😊😊 [04:48] Vladoha was added by: Vladoha [04:51] Hi all … Can you help me with problem? … Using CPT to install UT to my 1+1 … At second steb when i must boot into recovery mod, CPT doesn't see my device … "Could not detect device in recovery mod" … 😔 … P.s. sorry for bad english, I'm russian 😂 [04:55] I would suggest to use the ubports installer [04:56] sudo snap install ubports-installer --devmode [04:56] If your distro supports snaps [04:57] @NikosChat, Is it command from ubuntu? … Or its me so stupid, that im trying to flash from windows?😂 … Unports installer doesnt see my device for some reason [04:58] Yes … Im so lame [04:59] What device do you have? [04:59] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/r8F8FDzq/file_1029.jpg Failed at this step [05:00] Oneplus one [05:01] @harishsays, 'The techniques these companies use are not always generic: they can be algorithmically tailored to each person. An internal Facebook report leaked this year, for example, revealed that the company can identify when teens feel “insecure”, “worthless” and “need a confidence boost”. Such granular information, Harris adds, is “a perfect model of what buttons you can push in a particular person”.' … #audiocast [05:02] @Vladoha you are on windows? [05:02] @NikosChat, Yep … That's the problem? [05:03] Is your device in recovery? [05:03] You'll need to install the adb drivers for your device [05:03] @UniversalSuperBox, Drivers work fine … Tested fastboot cmd [05:03] @NikosChat, Yes [05:06] Maybe there is somewhere zip with UT and all stuff … Just to flash it in recovery … Wasted about 1.5h with that [05:07] No there is no zip for UT [05:07] Sadstory [05:07] Any ideas? [05:08] Fell like monkey with grenade [05:09] If you have the adb drivers installed then I don't know [05:10] Try Ubuntu from a live cd [05:10] Cpt deletes all from phone … Maybe it needs developer mode, which was wiped [05:14] @UniversalSuperBox, Agree [07:01] Project click-import build #18: SUCCESS in 4.5 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/18/ === JanC_ is now known as JanC [07:01] Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #153: SUCCESS in 9.9 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/153/ [07:01] Project ota-push build #1131: SUCCESS in 1.2 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1131/ [07:30] ugh [07:30] so much work [07:30] I need a break [07:32] anyone working on anything cool? [07:42] Rumors said that Marius had successfully worked on the notifications issue for the matrix.org app uMatriks. [07:43] cool [07:43] I was thinking of making an app [07:43] VOIP, using fongos network [07:43] For me that is great and important news, because I want desperately start convincing my business partners, family and friends switching to matrix. [07:44] you get a phone number, and can send/receive sms and calls via your cells data plan, and it's free if you don't mind not having a reserved phone number that's always yours, but it was under $15 for me to pay for 6 months of my own number [07:44] VoIP or sip client is missing ATM. So thus would be great. [07:44] Yeah i know [07:44] I want it for myself too:D [07:45] like it's something the app store needs to have [07:46] Also I would like it. Than I can fully use my it fp2 as business phone. [07:47] @xorpad, Is it SIP compatible? [07:47] Flohack, I don't know, I have to reverse engineer it to find out how it works [07:47] What do you mean with need of those reserved phone numbers? [07:47] But reverse engineering android apps is easy [07:47] Ok then probably it isnt ;) [07:49] or maybe I'll use google voice, since it's an open protocol, but I feel like google voice is kind of bad because linux users are more privacy conscious and google is not your friend when it comes to sharing your info [07:49] @Xorpad can not find any fongos network. What is it? [07:49] bastos777, it's an app for android that gives you a cell phone line over your data plan [07:49] or wifi [07:50] Volte? 🙈 [07:50] it can be a second line, or you can have a data only cell phone plan (which is what I do) and use it to call/text for free [07:50] My main reason using ut and Linux and matrix is privacy [07:50] @xorpad, Ah. Only available in us? [07:51] @bastos777 I use it in Canada, not sure if they have gone global yet [07:51] @xorpad, Working on Telegram app, maybe its cool :) [07:51] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/9Al066rR/file_1031.png [07:52] @bastos777, It is ot but privacy respecting for me is one of the core preconditions for democratic systems! [07:53] we need to respect privacy... It's imporant [07:53] I'm so concerned with privacy that I'm not tracable right now lol [07:53] Like I'm tunnled through more boxes than I can count in many different ways [07:53] * xorpad is a privacy advocate [07:53] @Flohack, Ah! API 41 is supporting supergroups asi learned from someone named @Flohack AFAIK... [07:54] @Flohack, 👍 [07:55] Yeah but @DanChapman the file is still very empty now 😆 => Its a mess, they did not use namespaces, no folders for different groups of C files, they used classes called private to stored private data in other classes wtf ^^ [07:55] @ubports_bot, 👍❤ [07:55] I need to refactor that a bit. I cant use this code without tears ótherwise [07:56] okay, lets try this again [07:56] attempting to boot bullhead for the second time [07:56] it didn't work the first time [07:57] probably won't work the next several dozen attempts, but i get logcat data [07:57] of the kernel spitting out it's guts [07:58] @xorpad, That is great. Friends of mine also do. I would like all noobs like me will have the ability to get privacy respected. Therefore I support matrix.org. [07:58] bastos777, you can buy root access on hacked servers for cheap from skids [07:59] lame skids [07:59] @Flohack, 🙈 yeah it made my eyes bleed a bit trying to read it all. Is definitely lacking some structure. [07:59] use them to create a network of ssh tunnels, route stuff through tor and i2p too, mix it up and keep it confusing as hell [07:59] I will create a database subfolder and move all stuff there. And remove those silly private classes [08:00] You should also leave behind a trail of false evidence leading people in the wrong direction [08:00] and read about opsec fails and learn from them [08:01] like, for instance, if you say "I just put on movie X on netflix", they can look at all the people who launched that video on netflix at that time, and when they have lots of details and lists of suspects they can corellate it all and find you [08:02] Don't talk about the weather, don't talk about the time of day, don't talk about brand names or businesses you frequent or anything that could help in any way lead to a conclusion about you [08:02] sorry this is OT [08:02] * xorpad shuts u [08:02] up [08:03] What cpu governor ubports uses? Can we tweak parameters anywhere? [08:04] samitormanen, it's up the the person who works on that perticular kernel [08:04] No. Very important topic to be discussed. If you don't mind I will follow up in the of group. [08:04] every device has it's own kernel [08:04] okay, highlight me if you want my attenion I don't actively watch telegram and that channel has no irc relay [08:05] ls [08:05] oops [08:06] Wrong chat boi [08:06] (Sticker, 458x512) https://irc.ubports.com/FjYmR0Y0/file_1032.webp [08:24] Project daily-fp2 build #362: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/362/ [08:25] Project ota-push build #1132: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1132/ [08:44] @DanChapman the moment when you discover that there is already a hidden db upgrader in the code, while you were searching smth else for your own db upgrader 😢 [08:48] @Flohack, Ouch! 😕 Hopefully it works and saves you any more pain with it [08:48] Well it does. I was wondering why version row in the db was set to 5. And in the template db its 1... so that led me here. Aseman guys made a great job 😆 [08:55] Okay, apparently fongo is only Canada and limited parts of the states right now, as far as which area code's you can get [08:55] and the area code is used to judge if the call is local or not, so I think I have to go with google voice [08:56] I don't like google, but it has to be done, because that's the only app that covers the whole world [08:56] I don't know... [08:57] Maybe I should just make a SIP client and let people chose their own provider and pay for it [08:57] instead of picking one proprietary provider that's not global [08:58] There is a SIP client initiative spinning up, we try to reuse linphone on the UT phone ;) [08:58] @xorpad, +1 [08:58] Oh someones already doing it? [08:58] I'll do something else than [08:59] now I need a new idea [09:09] Well yes there are some ppl drafting a GUI now, and reviewing packages. But its not even alpha ^^ [09:13] @Flowhack what are they making? [09:13] *@flohack [09:14] cool you can ping me [09:14] I can add you to the group, but you need to use Telegram to see the draft screens and so ^^ [09:15] I'm on telegram [09:16] ah yes just a sec send you invitation [09:16] Over here:D [09:16] yeah was looking for your name 😆 thx [09:17] I haven't eaten anything for a really long time [09:17] like... I think it's been a week [09:17] lulz [09:20] wow [09:23] Yeah... I should really force myself to eat something [09:24] Eat dat burger! [09:24] Maybe some pizza [09:25] mmmmm pizza [09:25] @DanChapman I know a guy with the same name as you [09:26] Heh cool! 😊 [09:26] you stole his name! give it back! [09:42] Was anyone able to switch stable to rc channel on BQ M10 FHD/frieza? … I tried to switch to rc channel but there is no update to r7. … If I switch to devel channel it shows the update to version41 immediately. … BTW: switching stable channel to rc with BQ4.5 works perfect. [09:49] Man, the halium people told me to fork the cyanogenmod kernel to make a new halium kernel for bullhead... I got the latest cm-14.1 kernel and it won't compile, or it will compile if I use some hackish things to make it work, but then it doesn't boot [09:49] and I can't run it in an emulator to debug it because bochs doesn't do arm [09:50] and I don't know any other hypervisors meant for debugging OS's [09:50] i'm gonnna start with the official msm kernel [09:51] Bullhead is the nexus 5X? [09:52] yes correct [09:53] And there 's no halium working on 5X? [09:53] nope [09:53] I'm the one making it I guess [09:54] * xorpad shrugs [09:54] I'll backport all the needed features from cm-14.1 [09:54] and I'm also planning on merging in and at the same time enhancing code from mainline linux and from franco-kernel [09:55] It' s one of the plasma mobile core device [09:55] Well, it's not one of ours... yet [09:55] @bhushanshah maybe knows something about this... [09:56] But Plasma Mobile uses Halium, so the 5X already has to be ported [09:56] Are you sure? [09:56] ayone got ota2 on nexus7 wifi yet? still hangs on r1 here, my bq4.5 works nicely on ota2 [09:56] Yep, that was my point [09:56] They even have prebuilt images for it based on Halium [09:56] maybe they just use another kernel that's compatible with it [09:56] they might not even have the kernel source [09:56] but they told me to fork cyanogenmod like this did for all their kernels [09:56] http://images.plasma-mobile.org/halium/ [09:57] lol, yeah, no source, those are premade images [09:57] Just ask bhushan shah for the local manifest he's using to build the images [09:57] ohhh, they do have a bullhead kernel but it doesn't work [09:58] it's not capable of what we need or something like that [09:58] cloning github repo now [09:58] I'll see if I can make any progress with it [09:58] * xorpad shrugs ahain [09:59] The kernel is non-mainline, but it should work from what I heard [10:00] the offical status of ubports bullhead kernel is that it boots, and that's all it does [10:00] like, it doesn't initalize the screen, it doesn't catch button presses [10:00] you can just confirm it works via telnet shell over network [10:01] So, my goal is to get ubuntu touch working on bullhead in the very near future [10:01] Maybe a few months if I'm lucky [10:03] you guys doing great work [10:03] Don't know If there 's an UT device running with halium yet, so good luck! [10:05] @mariogrip is working on porting Mir to Halium 7.1, I guess that's one of the blockers for getting UBports working fine on the Halium devices [10:06] The current mir and libhybris builds in UBports are only for Halium / Android 5.1 [10:15] @Vladoha, If Windows did you install the device drivers? [10:18] @Stereofont, Yes … I easily flashed some roms after my fail with ut [10:30] @Frank Fricke, I did that with no problem at all [10:37] @Vladoha, So you are flashing downloaded img files? UBport installer downloads live during the install process. Probably that is somehow the difficulty [10:38] It's worth to install apps using libertine? [10:41] @Stereofont, Just checked. Shows 15:04 (r6) on RC on Fienza [10:42] @malditobastardo, +1 and is there a limit to how many? Is it basically an emulator like Wine? [10:43] @Stereofont, Yes … I'm flashing through fastboot … UBport downloaded img succesfully as it said … But refused to detect my device at this stage [10:43] I mean. For having Firefox or liber office for me is not a big deal. Of course is good to experiment [10:44] @Stereofont, Anyways … I will install ubuntu in two days … And try again with that [10:44] But VLC maybe I don't know. To say something [10:45] @Vladoha, ADB detects your device when installing other ROMs but your device is not detected by UBports installer? [10:46] @Stereofont, Thx, for reply ...Hm, strange...because 15.04 (r7) is out since friday for my BQ4.5. Some days ago I was able to update to rc (r6) without a problem, but yesterday after fresh install (stable- r2) system settings show neither r6 nor r7 [10:46] @Stereofont, Yes … And only at second stage, when i need to boot recovery … First stage with fastboot passed easy [10:47] @Vladoha, Could be a good idea to install Canonical version of UT first then move to UBports version. Do it in two stages [10:47] @Vladoha, But only with CPT … UBport installer failed at first stage 🌚 [10:50] Oh yeah, my Nexus5 is now running Ubports! 😎 [10:51] This is a lot faster than Nexus4. [10:51] @Vladoha, Fastboot doesn't upset the bootloader. Install does? [10:52] @Frank Fricke, Just checked. No update visible from r.6 [10:54] @Stereofont, Not shure that i understood you … My english is over 😂 [11:01] Just wondering if it is a bootloader problem. Could also be obstacles such as battery check and MD5 check etc [11:02] Someone with more knowledge than me will be awake soon I am sure 😁 [11:11] Hope so … I tried to beat that problem until morning … And now i must go to work withour sleep 🌚 [11:14] TIL how to use QWORDs in gcc C [11:16] __attribute__((__aligned__(quadword))) varablename; [11:16] lulz so convoluted [11:50] does anyoune tried firefox 57 with their 'touch layout' on uphone (via libertine)? how look firefox theming at all? [11:51] firefox is a horrible rendering engine [11:51] Touch Layout? Didn't know this exists (I only know the android App ...) and the normal desktop design [11:51] firefox is not a rendering engine at all [11:51] but Gecko has seen a lot of clean ups over the last month [11:51] well, mozilla, the backend of firefox, is a rendering engine [11:52] browsers are basically compilers and rendering engines which get their data/code from network protocols [11:52] they compile the page, then they render it so you can see it [11:52] @JBBgameich, i mean density (it's just about paddings in UI) [11:53] But what exactly is horrible about gecko? It's much better than a few month ago now, even faster than Chromium [11:53] firefox has a lot of problems with not working on certain specific combinations of hardware [11:53] I'm lucky I did't ever have a problem with it on my hardware [11:53] I've experienced it, and in my looking for a fix, I found there was none, and a lot of things triggers the complete failure to show anything but a black window [11:54] basically a lot of people have issues with firefox. It's a more secure browser but it's not very universally compatible [11:54] and I have no clue as to the reason why, not even a suspect cause [11:54] I can't really say something about this because I have never experienced such things. I only noticed that the new Nightly is really great, fast and bug-free (on my hardware) [11:55] but myself, along with tons of people on the internet, have the rendering engine crash and they can only see a black nothingness where the web site would be displayed normally [11:55] new nightly (57 in beta now) really great and fast … but what about firefox as libertine app? is it too small to use on phone? [11:56] the one way I found to trigger it every time, is to load a page with lots of really high res long-length gifs, like are popular now instead of actual videos [11:56] it will hit it's max amount of memory and the rendering engine will crash [11:56] So I reluctantly switched to chromium, and I'm not totally happpy with it, but I'm not dis-satisfied either [11:57] In firefox 57 / 58 or earlier? [11:57] not sure the version, but it happened a while ago [11:58] You should try the new Nightly. I also switched to an other browser away from Firefox about 2 years ago, but I came back because the new NIghtly just didn't make any problems anymore. It's more stable than the old stable releases [11:58] also my mother has this celeron laptop that was really cheap, an asus one... for some reason firefox just crashes as soon as she launches it... happened in windows 8.1, windows 10, ubuntu, arch linux, some bsd variant - i forget which, but only firefox does this, no other program ever crashes on her computer [11:59] and it happens regardless of OS [11:59] I cannot find any screenshot of a Firefox on UTouch. Maybe, someone could send screenshot? [11:59] We should make our own browser with the chromium web kit [12:00] Something similar to dolphin with script blocking and ad blocking and pop-up blocking as built in things turned on by default [12:00] Maybe I'll make a browser... [12:00] And, is it real that I can install last version of Firefox on libertine? Or only specific version? [12:00] Yeah, I should do that... I'm getting frustrated with arm64 asm [12:00] it's so much more complicated to use arm64 asm inline in gcc than x86 was when I was doing x86 stuff [12:01] @Gleb Lee, You probably need to add the firefox nightly ppa to it [12:01] I think i need to recompile gcc and as [12:02] because I'm using valid instructions and it's throwing errors about them not existing, same with certain registers [12:02] this kernel is messed up [12:03] the halium guys said they had it working properly [12:03] they said it was patched for gcc 7 [12:03] xorpad: bullhead kernel is not patched for gcc 7 [12:03] (patches welcome :P) [12:04] bshah, well, I'm slowly patching it as I go [12:04] cool [12:04] xorpad: but I wonder... why are you building it out of tree? [12:04] I'll create a fork on github and you can pull in my changes... a lot of them are pretty hackish [12:05] bshah, because gcc 7.2 produces 25-35% more efficient arm binaries [12:05] comapred to 4/5/6 [12:05] according to many many benchmarks by many many people [12:05] xorpad: well, yes but how do you plan to integrate it with halium build system e.g? [12:06] I don't know the halium build system, what I know is that all the stuff people use with android is outdated and there are good reasons to not use them [12:07] so if you're using an android source tree with the prebuilt's you're losing out on stuff [12:07] anyways, one step at a time, first it needs to compile with gcc 6/7 [12:08] Why LoguiI [12:08]