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baynsley#EFAAGM01:47
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:00
BobMottram[m]Eclipse always seemed heavyweight to me. It's ok though.08:04
directhex_BobMottram[m]: eclipse is so staggeringly bad it drove my entire professional career (against java & into c#)22:22
directhex_"if java developers think this is fit for purpose i gotta get away from java"22:23
daftykins:>22:23
daftykinssir \o22:23
directhex_ello22:23
daftykinsare ye well?22:23
directhex_felt pretty sick today actually22:23
directhex_but seem mostly recovered now22:23
daftykinsexcellent! and in the grand scheme? :)22:24
directhex_need to go get a rental car later. sadly from somewhere stupid as zipcar is v. popular over holiday days22:24
directhex_still acclimatising to life in the US22:24
daftykinsyou're braver than me22:25
daftykinsi wonder how my old mate kez is doing in LA, working for the devil... i mean Apple22:25
directhex_buying a car has gone rapidly up the priority list - house sale should be completed on thursday, so i'll have money soon22:25
daftykinser not LA, Cali as a whole22:25
daftykinsthe one back in Blighty?22:25
directhex_yeah22:25
directhex_got hung up on crap conveyancing for months22:25
daftykinsi know that trouble, mmm22:26
daftykinsstill dealing with insurance crap with mine atm22:26
directhex_taking my driving test on wednesday. if i fail i'll take some actual lessons before trying again22:27
daftykinsi didn't think it was too tough over there, since 16 year olds can do it?22:29
daftykinsespecially in an auto22:29
directhex_daftykins: yeah, but still22:36
daftykinsi don't blame you, i don't hold a license either22:36
daftykinsand highways are kinda scary :P22:36
directhex_i went from "hm, i should get a license" on tuesday night to "i passed my theory test" by wednesday lunchtime22:36
daftykinshah22:36
daftykinswonder if it's as thorough as the one over here22:37
daftykinsstory goes they'll soon begin assessing driving style for environmental impact22:37
directhex_also my UK license is only valid here until july22:37
daftykinsoh you did have one22:37
directhex_yeah since 200622:38
directhex_thankfully found an insurance broker here who can get me covered using UK history (11 year old UK license has a lot of value in lowering premiums)22:40
directhex_(vs 0-day-old MA license)22:40
directhex_also plan to have paid for a car by this time next week22:40
daftykinsah har22:40
daftykinsi'm gonna regret never having gotten a license tomorrow when i'm in the back seat with my clients 3 year old, driving down to their apartment in Spain22:41
directhex_XD22:41
directhex_if you'd got a license years ago you could be driving *yourself* in a convertible22:41
directhex_but nooooo22:42
daftykins;)22:42
daftykinsin fairness i wouldn't want to pay for that22:42
directhex_first time i came to the US with the missus, we rented a camaro as our car for the trip22:42
directhex_https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg/1200px-2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg22:43
daftykinsthere he goes in his new Camaro ~22:43
daftykinsmmhmm22:43
directhex_currently following plan A and plan B for car in parallel22:45
directhex_plan B is to buy a chevrolet bolt ev22:45
daftykinsmmhmm22:45
daftykinsand A?22:46
directhex_plan a is to buy a very used tesla model s, then consider trading it in for a new tesla model 3 in march when my model 3 reservation matures22:46
daftykinsah har22:46
directhex_depending on how i feel about giant vs. smaller car, and new vs old22:46
directhex_blocker on plan a is being dicked around by uk->us move screwing the reservation up22:46
directhex_so if tesla don't fix it by, say, wednesday, i'll give them up22:47
daftykinswere they originally gonna ship it over?22:47
directhex_bolt is fine. it's not a luxury car, the boot is small, but it's fine and moves like greased lightning through a goose22:47
directhex_i reserved a model 3 in the UK, between july and october that became a RHD-only reservation rather than a "wherever jo lives" reservation22:48
directhex_i don't really need a RHD car, in the UK, in 2019 :D22:49
daftykinsi'm unfamiliar with that acronym22:49
directhex_right-hand drive22:49
daftykinsah22:49
directhex_i.e. UK/australia use22:49
daftykinsand Guernsey!22:50
daftykinsdon't forget us! ;D22:50
directhex_also UK and US teslas use a different charge connector22:50
daftykinsdo they not require 240v adapters over there anyway, so it's not for voltage safety?22:50
directhex_public chargers are 24022:51
directhex_or high voltage DC22:52
directhex_hang on i took some pics at the dealership22:54
directhex_https://imgur.com/a/7f86g23:23

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