[01:47] <baynsley> #EFAAGM
[08:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:04] <BobMottram[m]> Eclipse always seemed heavyweight to me. It's ok though.
[22:22] <directhex_> BobMottram[m]: eclipse is so staggeringly bad it drove my entire professional career (against java & into c#)
[22:23] <directhex_> "if java developers think this is fit for purpose i gotta get away from java"
[22:23] <daftykins> :>
[22:23] <daftykins> sir \o
[22:23] <directhex_> ello
[22:23] <daftykins> are ye well?
[22:23] <directhex_> felt pretty sick today actually
[22:23] <directhex_> but seem mostly recovered now
[22:24] <daftykins> excellent! and in the grand scheme? :)
[22:24] <directhex_> need to go get a rental car later. sadly from somewhere stupid as zipcar is v. popular over holiday days
[22:24] <directhex_> still acclimatising to life in the US
[22:25] <daftykins> you're braver than me
[22:25] <daftykins> i wonder how my old mate kez is doing in LA, working for the devil... i mean Apple
[22:25] <directhex_> buying a car has gone rapidly up the priority list - house sale should be completed on thursday, so i'll have money soon
[22:25] <daftykins> er not LA, Cali as a whole
[22:25] <daftykins> the one back in Blighty?
[22:25] <directhex_> yeah
[22:25] <directhex_> got hung up on crap conveyancing for months
[22:26] <daftykins> i know that trouble, mmm
[22:26] <daftykins> still dealing with insurance crap with mine atm
[22:27] <directhex_> taking my driving test on wednesday. if i fail i'll take some actual lessons before trying again
[22:29] <daftykins> i didn't think it was too tough over there, since 16 year olds can do it?
[22:29] <daftykins> especially in an auto
[22:36] <directhex_> daftykins: yeah, but still
[22:36] <daftykins> i don't blame you, i don't hold a license either
[22:36] <daftykins> and highways are kinda scary :P
[22:36] <directhex_> i went from "hm, i should get a license" on tuesday night to "i passed my theory test" by wednesday lunchtime
[22:36] <daftykins> hah
[22:37] <daftykins> wonder if it's as thorough as the one over here
[22:37] <daftykins> story goes they'll soon begin assessing driving style for environmental impact
[22:37] <directhex_> also my UK license is only valid here until july
[22:37] <daftykins> oh you did have one
[22:38] <directhex_> yeah since 2006
[22:40] <directhex_> thankfully found an insurance broker here who can get me covered using UK history (11 year old UK license has a lot of value in lowering premiums)
[22:40] <directhex_> (vs 0-day-old MA license)
[22:40] <directhex_> also plan to have paid for a car by this time next week
[22:40] <daftykins> ah har
[22:41] <daftykins> i'm gonna regret never having gotten a license tomorrow when i'm in the back seat with my clients 3 year old, driving down to their apartment in Spain
[22:41] <directhex_> XD
[22:41] <directhex_> if you'd got a license years ago you could be driving *yourself* in a convertible
[22:42] <directhex_> but nooooo
[22:42] <daftykins> ;)
[22:42] <daftykins> in fairness i wouldn't want to pay for that
[22:42] <directhex_> first time i came to the US with the missus, we rented a camaro as our car for the trip
[22:43] <directhex_> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg/1200px-2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg
[22:43] <daftykins> there he goes in his new Camaro ~
[22:43] <daftykins> mmhmm
[22:45] <directhex_> currently following plan A and plan B for car in parallel
[22:45] <directhex_> plan B is to buy a chevrolet bolt ev
[22:45] <daftykins> mmhmm
[22:46] <daftykins> and A?
[22:46] <directhex_> plan a is to buy a very used tesla model s, then consider trading it in for a new tesla model 3 in march when my model 3 reservation matures
[22:46] <daftykins> ah har
[22:46] <directhex_> depending on how i feel about giant vs. smaller car, and new vs old
[22:46] <directhex_> blocker on plan a is being dicked around by uk->us move screwing the reservation up
[22:47] <directhex_> so if tesla don't fix it by, say, wednesday, i'll give them up
[22:47] <daftykins> were they originally gonna ship it over?
[22:47] <directhex_> bolt is fine. it's not a luxury car, the boot is small, but it's fine and moves like greased lightning through a goose
[22:48] <directhex_> i reserved a model 3 in the UK, between july and october that became a RHD-only reservation rather than a "wherever jo lives" reservation
[22:49] <directhex_> i don't really need a RHD car, in the UK, in 2019 :D
[22:49] <daftykins> i'm unfamiliar with that acronym
[22:49] <directhex_> right-hand drive
[22:49] <daftykins> ah
[22:49] <directhex_> i.e. UK/australia use
[22:50] <daftykins> and Guernsey!
[22:50] <daftykins> don't forget us! ;D
[22:50] <directhex_> also UK and US teslas use a different charge connector
[22:50] <daftykins> do they not require 240v adapters over there anyway, so it's not for voltage safety?
[22:51] <directhex_> public chargers are 240
[22:52] <directhex_> or high voltage DC
[22:54] <directhex_> hang on i took some pics at the dealership
[23:23] <directhex_> https://imgur.com/a/7f86g