[01:47] #EFAAGM [08:00] morning boys and girls. [08:04] Eclipse always seemed heavyweight to me. It's ok though. [22:22] BobMottram[m]: eclipse is so staggeringly bad it drove my entire professional career (against java & into c#) [22:23] "if java developers think this is fit for purpose i gotta get away from java" [22:23] :> [22:23] sir \o [22:23] ello [22:23] are ye well? [22:23] felt pretty sick today actually [22:23] but seem mostly recovered now [22:24] excellent! and in the grand scheme? :) [22:24] need to go get a rental car later. sadly from somewhere stupid as zipcar is v. popular over holiday days [22:24] still acclimatising to life in the US [22:25] you're braver than me [22:25] i wonder how my old mate kez is doing in LA, working for the devil... i mean Apple [22:25] buying a car has gone rapidly up the priority list - house sale should be completed on thursday, so i'll have money soon [22:25] er not LA, Cali as a whole [22:25] the one back in Blighty? [22:25] yeah [22:25] got hung up on crap conveyancing for months [22:26] i know that trouble, mmm [22:26] still dealing with insurance crap with mine atm [22:27] taking my driving test on wednesday. if i fail i'll take some actual lessons before trying again [22:29] i didn't think it was too tough over there, since 16 year olds can do it? [22:29] especially in an auto [22:36] daftykins: yeah, but still [22:36] i don't blame you, i don't hold a license either [22:36] and highways are kinda scary :P [22:36] i went from "hm, i should get a license" on tuesday night to "i passed my theory test" by wednesday lunchtime [22:36] hah [22:37] wonder if it's as thorough as the one over here [22:37] story goes they'll soon begin assessing driving style for environmental impact [22:37] also my UK license is only valid here until july [22:37] oh you did have one [22:38] yeah since 2006 [22:40] thankfully found an insurance broker here who can get me covered using UK history (11 year old UK license has a lot of value in lowering premiums) [22:40] (vs 0-day-old MA license) [22:40] also plan to have paid for a car by this time next week [22:40] ah har [22:41] i'm gonna regret never having gotten a license tomorrow when i'm in the back seat with my clients 3 year old, driving down to their apartment in Spain [22:41] XD [22:41] if you'd got a license years ago you could be driving *yourself* in a convertible [22:42] but nooooo [22:42] ;) [22:42] in fairness i wouldn't want to pay for that [22:42] first time i came to the US with the missus, we rented a camaro as our car for the trip [22:43] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg/1200px-2010ChevroletCamaro-05-1.jpg [22:43] there he goes in his new Camaro ~ [22:43] mmhmm [22:45] currently following plan A and plan B for car in parallel [22:45] plan B is to buy a chevrolet bolt ev [22:45] mmhmm [22:46] and A? [22:46] plan a is to buy a very used tesla model s, then consider trading it in for a new tesla model 3 in march when my model 3 reservation matures [22:46] ah har [22:46] depending on how i feel about giant vs. smaller car, and new vs old [22:46] blocker on plan a is being dicked around by uk->us move screwing the reservation up [22:47] so if tesla don't fix it by, say, wednesday, i'll give them up [22:47] were they originally gonna ship it over? [22:47] bolt is fine. it's not a luxury car, the boot is small, but it's fine and moves like greased lightning through a goose [22:48] i reserved a model 3 in the UK, between july and october that became a RHD-only reservation rather than a "wherever jo lives" reservation [22:49] i don't really need a RHD car, in the UK, in 2019 :D [22:49] i'm unfamiliar with that acronym [22:49] right-hand drive [22:49] ah [22:49] i.e. UK/australia use [22:50] and Guernsey! [22:50] don't forget us! ;D [22:50] also UK and US teslas use a different charge connector [22:50] do they not require 240v adapters over there anyway, so it's not for voltage safety? [22:51] public chargers are 240 [22:52] or high voltage DC [22:54] hang on i took some pics at the dealership [23:23] https://imgur.com/a/7f86g