[00:40] Hey guys. I am trying to set up a nas and dlna server with ubuntu. Is it going to be a problem having them both serve the same HDD? [00:41] Looking for partition/mountpoint advice. I'm setting up a ubuntu (current LTS) server strictly to run a docker environment. Some of the containers will use bind-mapping to the host. The server has a 6 drives on a RAID controller (2x250/RAID1;4x80/RAID5). My gut tells me to use / on the RAID1 array and /home on RAID5, but I don't fully grasp how LVM changes that. Thoughts? === RalphBa is now known as RalphBa|zzZ [01:24] I'm trying to setup my bash prompt where I want to substitute part of pwd if an environment variable is specified, but if it's not defined I'd like to just use \w. I can't seem to figure it out. [01:46] Is there any way to convert a UEFI install to a legacy BIOS one? [01:48] Yes, but if you are on GPT you need a tool that supports converting the partition table to MBR... there is proabably a linux tool that can do that, but I've only done it on windows, then you install grub to the mbr, and you can but don't have to delete the EFI partition [01:48] xorpad: Does it make a difference if I have full disk encryption? [01:49] I'm not really sure... [01:49] depends how the encryption is implemented and i don't know that [01:50] It's the encryption from Ubuntu, where you have to enter a password ot unlock the disk when Ubuntu boots [02:04] Hi guys - my XMonad session has gnome features - how can I stop this? Im sure I have the system configured wrong in some way... [02:04] My terminal, for example, has the menu bar at the top. [02:06] Ignore [02:06] I can just hide it. [02:35] hi guys! [02:36] i've got a 16.04lts install that i've just tried installing graphics drivers on (after years of running generics, haha) and i've hit a bit of a snag on reboot [02:36] they're AMD drivers for an AMB 7970 [02:38] i've followed the guide from the ubuntu help site and everything appears to go fine until reboot. now i get a dialog box on reboot telling me that there's been a graphics problem and do i want to reconfig, debug, run default etc. [02:38] has anyone had this problem before and can help me out? [02:40] the initial message is: This system is running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself. [02:41] if i "Try running with default graphical mode" i get thrown back to a terminal that shows me a list of things it's been doing, but doesn't let me input anything and it sits there forever [02:41] snufft: you changed graphics driver or kernel or both prior to seeing error? [02:41] Two_Dogs: thanks for the reply :) graphics driver only, I believe :) [02:42] the guide told me to run a dist-upgrade, but i believe everything was up to date when i ran it [02:43] snufft: i would undo the graphics driver install [02:47] snufft:^^ AMD drivers in 16.04 are provided in the kernel . [02:48] Two_Dogs: might be a problem, i can't seem to get back to cli login even, haha [02:49] question, when you say "rare commodity" what exactly does it mean? [02:49] or give me an example, of using it [02:49] or a scenario [02:50] Bashing-om: Really?? Mine didn't seem to function with what i was running. i've got 3 screens and full screen video on one of them degreased performance of the entire machine. it's been a while since i started looking into this, but i was under the impression that the computer was running some generic setup? [02:50] aw [02:50] sorry wrong channel [02:51] snufft: Can You boot from grub the recovery kernel ? That kernel boots with a fall back grahic's driver . [02:51] snufft: i keep ssh-server running in back ground as a failsafe login, something to consider for the next time [02:52] snufft: I also do not know the support structure for multi-monitors . [02:53] Two_Dogs: i'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks :) [02:54] Bashing-om: good point! I've got 4.4.0-96-generic, upstart and recovery mode (I've got a bunch of other kernels as well, but this is the most recent). Is the Recovery Mode the one you were talking about? [02:55] snufft: Yes . any one of them - recovery - will suffice for now. [02:57] Bashing-om: allrightey! i'm in :) what shoul the process from here be? remove the drivers i just installed, then what should I do to ensure i'm running the kernel based drivers? [02:59] snufft: what graphics chip/card you got? [02:59] driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in [02:59] snufft: I hope that when the OEM driver is removed, the kernel will pick back up. Once rebooted we can check and see . [02:59] driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' [02:59] Two_Dogs: it's an AMD 7970 :) [02:59] snufft: and ubuntu version? [03:00] that would be radeongpu or amdgpu [03:00] Bashing-om: no worries. I'm guessing it'd just be a package removal via dpkg? this was my install process fwiw: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx I got to the end of the "Install" bit (the reboot) before everything went south [03:00] Two_Dogs: 16.04LTS :) [03:01] snufft: what oerheks makes sense then [03:01] snufft: what oerheks said makes sense then [03:01] oh you installed the pro driver not knowing what driver is in use.. [03:02] sorry, didn't see what oerheks was writing [03:02] I knew it wasn't flgfx :P [03:02] snufft: was the install via deb or run file? [03:03] Two_Dogs: run file :) [03:03] snufft: find the uninstall script [03:04] snufft: and assume amdpgu driver is not an option till you got something that indicates otherwise [03:06] snufft: checking - bear with me . [03:07] woohoo! uninstalled it and we're back to a desktop :D [03:08] i'm getting xorg errors on reboot, but i'm just happy to be able to boot again, haha [03:10] snufft: pastebin ' lsmod | grep radeon ; lsmod | grep amdgpu ; lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' see what the driver situation is . [03:12] 2 sec, have to switch irc to my other computer [03:14] Bashing-om, here's the paste :) https://pastebin.com/fGQ68iEp [03:17] i think my problems might be solved.... [03:19] snufft: maybe /// that card takes the amdgpu driver vice radeon . https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu . [03:22] Bashing-om, I think it might be fixed? VLC isn't dying any more. Just trying to find some 1080 videos to play [03:22] hi [03:22] apt-get upgrade what does it do? [03:23] upgrades all your packages [03:23] web_dev, sure you know. [03:24] web_dev: updates installed packages after ' sudo apt update ' has been run . [03:24] and "update" ? [03:24] what is the differences from ubuntu core, vs normal ubuntu? [03:24] I'm considering using ubuntu core on an arm development board [03:24] right now I'm using debian [03:25] xorpad: core only gives you a booting kernel and a wired networking ability . Up to you what else you add . [03:26] Ahh, well, sounds simple enough [03:26] i've done LFS a few times so that should be easy [03:26] oerheks, Bashing-om [03:27] configure enough to get apt-get working, and then use that to set up the rest i guess would be my generalized strategy i planned to make plans for [03:27] apt-get upgrade does the same thing as package manager update of unity does? [03:27] xorpad: Then a piece of cake . Is a learning curve to know what to add to get your desired effect . [03:27] Well, I know exactly the packages i want, and I want none that aren't on the list [03:28] so... yeah [03:28] that's actaully better than a preconfigured install [03:28] because I can leave out things that aren't on the list [03:28] xorpad: Ueppwe. that is the path :) Ya want logging then also install the anacron package . [03:29] yes web_dev [03:29] I don't need logging, it's just a development board used to natively run and test stuff that will be going into devices with the same chip archiecture [03:29] logging would just be a mess of compiling output [03:29] Sweepyoface, it could also upgrade the kernel version? [03:29] yes [03:29] ok [03:29] and is there a way to avoid that? [03:29] update != upgrade though [03:29] avoid the update of the krernel [03:30] i added a driver in the kernel source, then i compiled the kernel and isntalled it [03:30] !pinning | web_dev [03:30] web_dev: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [03:30] if the kernel will be update, i will lost the driver [03:30] what i want is "do all but do not update the kernel" [03:31] web_dev: ^^ then rebuild the driver for the new kernel . [03:31] no, its' not possible [03:31] the driver comes for an old version [03:31] and is out of support [03:31] is possible to do what i asked? [03:33] web_dev: Ill advised to hold back a kernel update .. but see the above about pinning . [03:35] echo kernel_package_name hold | dpkg --set-selections [03:36] kernel_package_name [03:36] what kernel? [03:36] i compiled by myself [03:36] there is not any package [03:36] :\ [03:39] web_dev: Then by now you know " compiled myself " you are on your own . We can not support that here . [03:39] i downloaded kernel source [03:40] added a driver [03:40] then i did "make" [03:40] i have taken the image files and upgraded grub [03:40] that's all... [03:40] now i want to tell the distro: don't touch the kernel [03:40] That is why DKMS is invented, to build it again any new kernel or dependencie update [03:41] don't be silly, just build it again [03:41] is there no way to tell the distro a so simple thing? [03:41] "don't touch the fuckin' kernel" [03:42] yes, Bashing-om answered that .. pinning.. but you will end up in a dependencie-hell [03:42] i googled about pinning [03:42] but it needs to know the kernel package name [03:43] but there is not a kernel package [03:43] because i compiled by my own [03:43] LoLz [03:43] good troll [03:43] bye [03:43] bye dumb guy [03:44] web_dev, if you compile your own you might be able to package it yourself. look into how to compile the ubuntu kernel, apply your patch, and build the deb from that [03:44] never done it myself, just a thought [03:45] can i package the already compiled one? [03:45] likely but I'm not sure. it will definitely be easier if you start from the ubuntu sources [03:47] apt-get update [03:48] what does it do? [03:48] syncs your local view of the package repository with the remote view [03:49] it let's you know what packages and versions are available on other servers [03:49] it doesn't actually change any packages locally - that's apt-get install/upgrade [03:50] thanks [03:50] and if i do not do apt-get upgrade, the package installed keeps the same as when i installed the dristro? [03:51] yes, as long as you did not enable any sort of automatic upgrades and don't do any upgrades via. a UI [03:52] but be careful - no upgrades means no security patches. for an internet attached computer this is definitely a risk [03:52] web_dev: But then no security fixes either ! [03:53] by default ubuntu has some automatic updates? [03:53] *enabled [03:53] you choose that option when you installed [03:54] I believe it is off by default [03:54] ok [03:54] > If you are using GNOME, go to the "System" menu, then "Administration", then "Update Manager", then "Settings". [03:54] that's from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates [03:55] but for example, when ubuntu isused on dev boards, some driver are added to the kernel, so, what happens when apt-get upgrade is performed? [03:56] driver will no longer work? [03:56] I don't understand what you mean "issued on dev boards" [03:56] *is used [03:56] what do you mean "dev board" ? [03:56] raspberry pi, asus thinkerboard [03:56] and so on... [03:57] that will depend on how the ubuntu distribution is configured. if they did it well, then the drivers you need will stay. if not.. then who knows :) [03:59] maybe they have its own repository with build kernel for that [03:59] ? [03:59] yes that's very possible [03:59] let me see if I can find the command to check, one moment [04:01] "dpkg -s linux-signed-generic" might do it [04:01] what this should do? [04:02] you can find that by running "dpkg --help" and looking for the "-s" flag [04:06] is it possible to uniquely identify a processor [04:06] does it come it any specific id similar to ip adress or mac address [04:07] They have serial numbers [04:07] so yes it's possible [04:08] usually you can get the serial number using a program, but some hardware is less supported and you need to read the number off the actual phsyical cpu [04:08] example: ryzen chips don't have proper support for linux yet and you can't get the serial number from inside linux [04:10] arunkumar413: I got mine with "sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep ID:" [04:10] arunkumar413, sudo cpuid | grep serial .. and for ubuntu installation, hostnamectl status | grep "Machine ID" [04:11] inxi -F should return an exhaustive list of resources, too. [04:11] do we a database of systems running ubuntu [04:12] ngarvey@challenger:~$ sudo dmidecode -t system | grep Serial [04:12] Serial Number: To be filled by O.E.M. [04:12] lol [04:12] !catalog | arunkumar413 [04:13] has inxi been added to default ubuntu installs? [04:13] Two_Dogs, as of 16.04 I believe ... [04:14] cfhowlett: cool, useful tool [04:14] I am on server version 16.04.3 and don't have inxi installed by default [04:14] indeed :) [04:14] sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep "Serial Number" [04:14] :-D [04:14] arunkumar413: See: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ . [04:35] apt-get upgrade also does apt-get update? [04:35] is implicit? [04:36] web_dev: no. it will use the values from the last time you updated. so you might not get the most recent package if you haven't updated first [04:39] web_dev, ...update refreshes the software list. upgrade actually installs things [04:40] and "update" will be keeped ? or i loose the list on every restart? [04:41] the list is static until the next update command [04:49] Anybody knows how well a HP Pavilion 570 with Radeon R5-435 is supported? And can i expect dualscreen with a couple of 27" Del U2715H to work? === rkta_ is now known as rkta [04:53] I have Ubuntu 17.04. I tried replacing systemd-resolved with dnsmasq due to VPN DNS leak issues. Then I reverted my changes because it didn't help. I replaced /etc/resolved.conf with its original version that I had backed up. But now everytime NetworkManager is started it replaces the file with its own version. [04:55] And I think this is causing "nslookup www.google.com" to time out. My original resolved.conf is here: https://pastebin.com/79X7iQWn [04:55] /etc/resolv.conf ? [04:55] Yes, sorry my bad [04:55] looks like a normal resolv.conf with dnsmasq [04:56] No I didn't use dnsmasq when I had my original resolv.conf. [04:57] I was using systemd-resolved. Then I tried to install dnsmasq to replace systemd-resolved. Then I backtracked on my changes, but now NetworkManager keeps replacing resolv.conf [04:58] This is what NetworkManager keeps replacing resolv.conf with: https://pastebin.com/2meS0UyD [05:01] How can I make NetworkManager to stop trying to replace my /etc/resolv.conf? And why has NetworkManager all of a sudden started to replace resolv.conf? [05:01] aware-kind: chattr +I /etc/resolv.conf [05:01] aware-kind: https://www.google.com/search?q=networkmanager+resolve.conf [05:01] aware-kind: chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf (sorry, lowercase i) [05:02] doing chattr +I can cause a lot of failures as most programs don't check for immutable problems [05:02] it works though :) [05:03] and if i made a descision as to which resolvers im gonna use, theres no reason for any program to be able to modify that file. [05:03] Mikjaer: What ubuntu version are you running? Can you check if your /etc/resolv.conf is write protected? [05:03] aware-kind: there's no such term in unix [05:04] aware-kind: however on my current system it is actually world-writeable for some reason [05:04] nickgarvey: I've already searched google but thx for the effort. For instance adding dns=none to NetworkManager.conf makes chrome to not be able to resolve dns-addresses [05:12] Is NetworkManager.service enabled in Ubuntu 17.04 by default, or does 17.04 use network-manager.service? [05:13] Never mind, they seem to be same. === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [05:20] What file does /etc/resolv.conf link to? It is a link by default in Ubuntu 17.04. Can someone with Ubuntu (preferably 17.04) check what /etc/resolv.conf leads to? [05:23] aware-kind: what do you mean with link to? [05:23] aware-kind: resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf [05:24] lotuspsychje: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link [05:24] lotuspsychje: What do you want me to do with that? [05:26] Ah sorry, I thought lotuspsychje wrote that to me. [05:27] aware-kind: you need the inside of the conf? [05:28] lotuspsychje: no he wants to know the origin of the symlink, if you do not understand that please read the link i provided. [05:29] Ok I managed to solve the problem. The problem was that originally /etc/resolv.conf was a symbolic link that I replaced with another link. But when I wanted to change everything back I replaced /etc/resolv.conf with a copy of it I had put away, but that copy was the file itself! So /etc/resolv.conf was no longer a link but an actual file. [05:30] The rest is history: When the service NetworkManager detects resolv.conf is NOT a symbolic link, then it decides to replace it with its own link. [05:32] But FUUUUUUUUUUCK I hate linux problems! They make me loose so many manhours I'm seriously considering switching to Windows all togheter. I need to go to therapy :'-( [05:33] watch the language here please [05:33] ok sorry, my bad. [05:33] and to be fair, you caused the problem :P [05:34] Ben64: Not quite. All this started because the devs of Ubuntu were happy enough to introduce systemd-resolved, but they didn't care that the service caused DNS leaks over VPN. So no I had to try to do something about it. [05:36] It's one thing when Ubuntu devs complain Ubuntu can be problematic because hardware OEMs wont cooperate with them... but it's something else when they shove half-assed solutions onto their users because reasons [05:38] I don't think this is the right forum to raise these complaints. if you have specific feedback the ubuntu forums are a good place to make suggestions [05:40] nickgarvey: You're right. I just replied to Ben64. But I won't ever again report a single bug/suggest an improvement because no matter how carefully and specifically I describe the bug, my efforts are ignored. Never again. [05:41] ... [05:43] the problem you came in here was not about vpn, it was trying to undo something you did [05:43] and you can suggest things without having a giant attitude about it [05:45] Ben64: Our argument is leading nowhere, but I don't have a giant attitude about anything when I report bugs. I just in detail describe the steps to reproduce it and explain the expected behavior. What attitude are you talking about when you haven't read my bug reports? [05:45] the attitude you left just above [05:46] the whole "attitude? who me?" ain't working. for solutions/assistance, strongly advise that you focus on providing more details and no commentary. [05:46] !details [05:46] Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [05:46] Ben64: Drop it, but you're wrong. I just kindly report the bug, and then nothing happens. Over and over again. KDE, Unity, etc.. [05:49] cool [05:55] aware-kind: telling volunteers their wrong, isnt the best idea here..stay open minded to get your issue solved [05:58] lotuspsychje and the rest of you: Please if you do not wish to continue this argument with me then please stop continuing it. Ben64 said I have an attitude when I write bug reports which is incorrect. And I already got my issue solved with the help of Mikjaer. [06:01] aware-kind: im not trying to argue...just pointing you for future problems its wise to stay open-minded instead of negative against.. [06:05] Here are some 500 lines of errors if you wish: https://pastebin.com/ZsxzYcre. Regarding Gecko, I placed the msi-files in the path dirs you recommended [06:05] Ooooops, sorry. Wrong chat-room [06:15] I'm still having the issue where my network interface doesn't start in the state I want it to. I have the following line in my /etc/network/interfaces file: iface enp0s8 inet manual - what else is needed? [06:16] something like 'auto enp0s8' just above it [06:17] Is there a way I can specify the IP address, and netmask? [06:18] razorsharpfang: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com [06:18] razorsharpfang: there is a server section that explains how to use the interfaces file [06:19] however I suggest you consider using network-manager to use this as it's clear you've not really got a base understanding of linux networking, so let network-manager do it for you [06:19] how to know which package kernel is installed right now? [06:19] web_dev, uname -a [06:19] This is in a virtualised test-environment, not a production system so i can re-image at will for no-cost, so I have no fear of mistakes, ikonia [06:20] is that the name of the deb package? [06:20] web_dev, that command will identify your current kernel [06:21] i need to hold the current kernel package [06:21] so i need to know the exact name [06:21] razorsharpfang: the 'manual' option means the interface needs to be startzed manually, by you, not that it is 'manually' configured. [06:21] web_dev, run the command in a terminal: uname -r [06:21] output = kernel [06:21] Aha, that makes more sense. Thanks tomreyn [06:22] razorsharpfang: if you want it to come up automatically you'll need to replace 'manual' by 'auto', and add more lines specifying its configuration. read 'man interfaces' [06:23] Ah, I should rtfm more often [06:23] sudo apt-mark hold 3.2.0-126-generic [06:23] it's good? [06:23] if you want automatic config, replace auto with dhcp [06:23] *manual with dhcp, i mean [06:23] The machine is serving as a dhcp server, so that's likely problematic. [06:24] !server | razorsharpfang see the section in the server guide on network config [06:24] razorsharpfang see the section in the server guide on network config: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-serv [06:24] razorsharpfang: actually what i just wrote wasn't entirely correct, sorry. you need "auto nameoftheinterface" and another line saying "inet nameoftheinterface " with either "static" or "dhcp", and (if 'static') more lines for specific configurations. [06:25] I was wondering about auto vs static. [06:25] razorsharpfang: it's 'dhcp' vs 'static', and 'auto' vs 'manual' [06:26] Oh boy I sure am very wrong today. [06:27] just look at some examples, such as on the page ducasse / ubottu just pointed you to it will be much easier. [06:28] I now have the functionality I was after. Many thanks for the support. [06:34] razorsharpfang: np, have fun :) the server guide is very good, i suggest bookmarking it :) [06:45] hello gais [06:45] hello.. any ubuntu kernel compile know how people around ? [06:45] i have this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/25698069/ [06:48] ivaat, mainline kernel is the preferred solution [06:48] cfhowlett, i do use mainline kernel and copy from there .config [06:48] i need qsv patches which i have patched [06:49] and this was not answer :) [06:49] same ooutcome is with 4.x from mainline taking .config to 4.x patches from qsv [06:49] !kernel | ivaat [06:49] ivaat: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [06:50] huh.. [06:51] ivaat: read the message from ubottu [06:51] ducasse, i have followed that path. i assume you didn't read paste :) [06:52] no, i didn't, as compiling kernels is beyond what is supported here :) [06:53] not true [06:54] erm, yes, it is [06:54] no [06:57] it really is not, building your own kernel is entirely unsupported. maybe ##linux can help you. [06:59] i am building ubuntu kernel eventually [06:59] anyways i looked perhaps someone with knowledge to give hint what could be wrong [07:42] Hi guys I have a urgent issue I installed ubuntu 17.04 but now my WiFi and LAN isnt working at all [07:42] Zenn, no official support in here. Install mainline wifi and lan :D [07:43] It is connected but just no network connection to Firefox or Ubuntu Store. [07:43] Zenn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/906103/lan-not-working-on-17-04 [07:43] :( [07:43] ivaat: this is wrong, please stop giving bad advice. [07:43] tomreyn, nah.. i just copied what i was told :) [07:43] ivaat: you interpreted what you were told in a way you wanted. [07:43] no [07:44] you did- just now [07:44] Is this a Ubuntu bug [07:45] ivaat: okay, either way, as the topic states, this is an official support channel. indeed kernel patching and compilation is not something supported here, but generi ubuntu support questions are. [07:45] Zenn: yes, this is a bug in network manager IIRC [07:45] affecting 17.04 [07:46] I can't get it working do I need restart ? [07:46] I did the touch and restart network manager does not work [07:46] Zenn: did you read the askubuntu.com link i posted? [07:48] Yes let me restart my laptop [07:48] :( why is this even in the release at all. [07:48] Zenn: this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1676547 [07:48] Launchpad bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu Yakkety) "No network connectivity after upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,Fix released] [07:53] Zenn: just restarting your computer won't work around the bug, you need to make the changed discussed on the links i provided. if you need help with it, just ask. [07:53] Omg [07:53] It does not work :( [07:53] Zenn: what is "it"? [07:54] greets [07:55] WiFi is working but not LAN [07:55] Zenn: have you made the changes on your temrinal? [07:55] Yes [07:56] Zenn: what does it say about the interface when you right click on it in the top right corner network management utility? [07:57] Wired Connection 1 [07:59] Zenn: cn you enable it there? [07:59] *can [07:59] It is enable o.o [07:59] Zenn: so LAN is working? [08:00] Yes [08:01] so i guess it's all working for you, nice. [08:01] Now WiFi isn't working [08:02] heh... [08:02] No I don't have internet connection. [08:02] :( [08:02] so do you usually connect to the internet through wired or wireless? [08:04] hey, not sure if anyone can help but I'm installing Ubuntu on a Dell XPS 15" 9560 and it's sticking at this point https://i.imgur.com/BMqG4CY.jpg [08:04] sudo apt-mark hold 3.2.0-126-generic [08:04] it's good? [08:04] this is having installed, and trying to boot up [08:04] i need to hold the current kernel version [08:04] braai: hit escape and see what the actuall issue is [08:05] tomreyn: thanks - just tried hitting escape but nothing happens [08:05] Okay worked o.o [08:05] braai: hmm, maybe try the other terminals then, ctrl-alt-f1 through f7 [08:05] doesn't seem responsive at all [08:05] maybe I should boot in a cli mode with more verbose info [08:06] web_dev: most likely not, you'd prevent the package from getting removed. [08:06] - I can't remember how to do that ;) [08:06] I will google... [08:06] tomreyn, what do i need to use? [08:06] it's clear what i need to do? [08:07] braai: you can hold down left shift during boot, then select "advanced..." and the first emergency option [08:07] web_dev: it's not even clear what you are trying to do [08:07] or why [08:09] braai: indeed this sounds like it may have frozen. bios issue? while i hope this doesn't affect NVMe, make sure your storage controller firmware in bios / uefi is configured to use AHCI mode, not RAID. [08:10] tomreyn: i have compiled my own kernel to add a driver not included in the kernel source tree [08:11] now i need to prevent that kernel from updating [08:11] because if i update it, i'll loose the driver [08:12] tomreyn: thanks. BTW I did switch to AHCI, but I'll double check in case the Dell prangware has flipped it back [08:12] braai: also refer to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_15_9560 (for how to do firmware updates, as well as many other hints) [08:12] I have just updated the firmware, it's a new box. But again cheers, I'll take a look [08:14] web_dev: you normally shouldn't need to recompile the kernel to add a driver [08:14] ducasse, i do, because it's a source [08:15] web_dev: i understand that, which driver is this? [08:15] web_dev: the kernel version you run there isn't supported here, nor is comiling / modifying your kernel image. "apt-mark hold " will hold a given package at its current version, but will not prevent newer kernel images from getting installed, and grub defaults to the newest kernel image. [08:15] was there a software updater push out to fix the internet bug? [08:15] cause it seems like I managed to fix but what is the broken iso doing in the releases site. [08:16] not everyone is technical in doing this o.o [08:16] Zenn: non LTS releases do not ISO updates. [08:16] *receive [08:16] so anyone who download that will be affected by the bug? [08:17] tomreyn: hmm this is so weird. I went into recovery mode, entered the crypt password, then selected "continue with normal boot" and it booted fine [08:18] however when restarted and trying a regular boot, I run into exactly the same issue again [08:19] Zenn: maybe, i do not know how widespread it is, but it seems to affect many configurations. [08:20] okay I will run the software update on my machine. [08:20] Zenn: my personal recommendation is to use LTS releases unless you are happy to handle such issues. === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [08:22] I'm gonna try reinstalling. Maybe w/out LVM this time [08:23] braai: which release is this? [08:23] 17.04 [08:23] braai: try the normal boot without the 'quiet' and 'splash' options (edit /etc/default/grub and remove them, then re-run update-grub and reboot into the default kernel), maybe add "text" as well. [08:23] will do, cheers [08:25] ducasse, custom shit [08:25] tomreyn [08:25] you are right [08:25] but if i tell ubuntu to hold the current .deb package he know, isn't the same thing? [08:25] braai: if you still have the installer / live media, you could also boot into it and "check the disc for defects" to ensure it's not broken === RalphBa|zzZ is now known as RalphBa [08:26] web_dev: same as what? you really, really, really do not want to manage your own kernel image unless you know what you're doing. the one you picked is already out of support, rreceives no security patches and may have known vulnerabilities. [08:27]