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ooquit01:02
lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:58
ducassegood morning05:58
lotuspsychjehey hey ducasse05:58
ducasse\o lotuspsychje05:59
lotuspsychjepretty silent in main05:59
ducassei see that. it will pick up in a couple of hours...06:02
lotuspsychjeducasse: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/06:22
lotuspsychje1.3 lol06:22
ducassehow long left?06:22
lotuspsychje14 days06:23
lotuspsychjelooks like thats gonna b a winner06:23
lotuspsychjehttps://pureos.net/06:25
lotuspsychjegnome3 & wayland huh..06:25
ducassehope so, i'd love to see them actually 'get born'06:25
lotuspsychjeyeah me too06:27
lordievaderGood morning06:28
lotuspsychjehey lordievader06:29
lotuspsychjehow are you?06:29
lordievaderDoing good here06:31
lotuspsychjehttps://puri.sm/posts/tag/pureos/page/2/06:31
lordievaderHow are you06:32
lotuspsychjeinteresting stuff06:32
ducassemorning lordievader06:32
lotuspsychjeim fine lordievader new workweek here06:32
ducassestarted new job yet?06:32
lotuspsychjeducasse: yep last week06:33
lordievaderlotuspsychje: indeed06:34
lotuspsychjefantastic hours06:34
lordievaderTime for coffee06:34
lotuspsychjeenjoy lordievader06:34
lotuspsychjeSay goodbye to proprietary BIOSes, say hello to coreboot06:36
lotuspsychjelol06:36
ducasselotuspsychje: how do you like it so far?06:36
lotuspsychjehttps://www.coreboot.org/06:36
ducasseyeah, if coreboot would actually be useful :)06:36
lotuspsychjevery nice ducasse their friendly, less hours, more pvt time06:37
ducassegood cow-orkers?06:37
lordievaderThanks06:37
lordievaderNice strong coffee06:38
lotuspsychjeyeah ducasse were only with 406:38
lotuspsychjesmall restaurant06:38
* ducasse finds the biscuits06:38
* lotuspsychje always drinks with milk & sugar06:38
lotuspsychjeotherwise its like patatoes without salt06:38
ducassecan't drink coffee myself, stick to tea or coke for my caffeine06:39
lotuspsychjeaha06:39
lotuspsychjespeaking of..going to breakfast too06:40
ducasseenjoy, lotuspsychje06:40
lotuspsychjetnx :p06:40
jink'sup, kids?06:40
ducasse\o06:41
ducasselordievader: do you know of any lossless audio formats that are better than flac?06:49
ducasse'better' as in 'more space-saving', for example06:49
jinkhttp://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison07:01
ducasseinteresting - thanks.07:04
lordievaderducasse: I usually rip in flac. Haven't really looked at other formats.07:18
lordievaderIt is not like space is really an issue for me.07:18
ducasseit isn't for me either, really, i was mostly just wondering what was best supported etc.07:22
ducasseand now i have a fair idea, thanks to jink and that excellent pointer :)07:24
jink:P07:29
BluesKajHowdy all12:23
pauljwHi everyone13:50
BluesKajhey pauljw14:03
pauljwhi BluesKaj :)14:07
BluesKajI see the Cheifs are 5-0 :)14:08
pauljwreally, that's awesome.  Greenbay fan here, good game yesterday.14:09
BluesKajyeah, it was , i like GB as well14:10
BluesKajRodgers is a great QB14:10
pauljwMy wife has a t-shirt that says "I have two favorite NFL teams, Greenbay and any team that beats Minnesota." or something like that...14:10
BluesKajnever cared fro the cowboys since landry was the coach14:11
pauljw:)14:11
BluesKajthink NE is beginning to show some cracks on both sides of the ball , time for Brady to retire after this season before he gets hurt badly14:13
DArqueBishopI'd be less annoyed about the Chiefs win if Watt hadn't been injured.14:14
BluesKajI'm sorry I missed that game14:15
pauljwyeah, it always bothers me when they play too long.  quit while you can still do other things, like walk...14:15
BluesKajhehe :-)14:15
BluesKajthink Brady's ego needs to be fed daily like a coal furnace...he has an unusual competitive streak in him14:17
BluesKajmore so than most14:18
BluesKajok , stuff to do for a few mns ...testing wayland14:20
BluesKajrunning  wayland session on kde/plasma with the nouveau open source driver for nvidia, but the desktop is pretty shaky when trying to run some regular/normal features like virtual desktops and and adding widgets to the panel14:43
pauljware you seeing improvement along the way in wayland, BluesKaj?14:48
BluesKajpauljw, not yet, however wayland supposedly brings the gpu drivers closer to the bare metal than X11 so to speak14:52
BluesKajit works quite well on ubuntu gnome 3 (not my fav DE ). I tried ubuntu gnome with wayland yesterday for a few hrs, very stable, but it's stil gnome14:54
ducassewayland still lacks some quite essential things14:55
BluesKajfor sure14:56
ducassepushing it to users is good in the way that it gets more testers, though14:58
ducassebut making it default? not sure that is such a good move.14:58
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BluesKajthe wayland implementation in ubuntu/gnome 3 is far ahead of kde/plasma and nvidia, but it'll eventually catch up in time, but it's gonna take a while15:00
BluesKajusers with amd gpus have better wayland support than nvidia15:01
BluesKajintel also has decent wayland support15:03
ducassewayland has worked really well for me with intel gpu - no graphics issues, but there are plenty of other issues - i'm not switching to it full-time for a while yet.15:13
EriC^^evening everyone15:14
ducasse\o EriC^^15:15
EriC^^hey ducasse how are you? :)15:16
ducassegood, thanks - and you? :)15:16
EriC^^good, thanks :)15:17
BluesKajHey EriC^^, ducasse15:20
pauljwhi EriC^^15:20
ducasse\o BluesKaj15:21
BluesKajducasse, I'm running a wayland session right now and it's quite bare bones :-)15:21
BluesKajof course networking etc is fine but lots of desktop features are missing15:22
pauljwis wayland planned to be the default for 18.xx? or is it still unknown.15:22
BluesKajpauljw, it's default on Ubuntu/gnome3 17.10 Artful afaik15:23
pauljwah, okay.  i don't mess with anything other than the lts versions.  probably should setup a vm and play with it a bit.15:24
EriC^^hi pauljw BluesKaj :)15:25
pauljw:)15:25
BluesKajthere;s a live usb image that runs it exclusively https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=rebeccablackos15:32
BluesKajwonder how well weston would works as a compositor on kde/plasma15:54
ducasseyou would need to rewrite it to support all the kde stuff, the compositor contains what we think of as the wm.15:57
ducasseso if you switch the compositor you also switch the main bits of the desktop15:57
BluesKajyeah kwin seems to work well enough until more devel is done to accomadate the missing features15:59
ducassegot to run, bbiab16:08
pauljwlater...16:08
oerheksi really like the 'ubuntu got outdated software' dudes16:13
oerheksespecially if they run 12.40 HAHAHAHAHA16:14
BluesKajhi oerheks your joke went right over my head :-)16:15
oerhekssorry for that :-(16:16
oerhekswhy do people want rolling releases .. do they know what it asks from development/testers?16:17
BluesKajdon't be sorry16:17
pauljwno oerheks, they're clueless.  they just want the latest and greatest and they want it NOW!!16:23
pauljwthen they want you to fix all the problems that go with it16:24
BluesKajthere's nothing advantageous about rolling releases IME16:32
lotuspsychjegood evening to all16:48
pauljwwell, I've used one that was well done and it is nice to only need to keep regular updates and always be at the latest version.16:48
pauljwhi lotuspsychje16:48
lotuspsychjehi pauljw16:48
pauljwhow have you been lotuspsychje?16:50
lotuspsychjegreat here pauljw and you?16:51
pauljwgood here, too. thanks16:51
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^16:59
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje16:59
EriC^^what's up?16:59
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: just got home from work, chillin & eating on irc17:00
EriC^^cool17:00
BluesKajoops wayland just crashed the desktop leaving me with konversation and a black background17:01
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: artful?17:03
lotuspsychjei cant get rid of the lag/animations/windows buttons gone bug on gnome/wayland17:04
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om17:25
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: :) ! .. Did not expect you to still be on the channel; pleasant surprise .17:26
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: new work, more pvt time yay17:46
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Come on Lotus ComPuters !17:53
lotuspsychjelol17:53
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Lotus Computers - at a hundred orders a week yet ?17:56
lotuspsychjenooo :p17:57
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Well - we got work to do then :)17:59
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lotuspsychjehave a nice1 guys tv time :p19:09

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