[01:25] <Unit193> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/340180936/xubuntu-meta_2.217_2.218.diff.gz urgh..
[06:29] <flocculant> yea knew about that stuff - don't say anything anymore when I see things being added
[06:54] <Unit193> Yeah saw it coming, but still...
[09:47] <knome> hmm, why do we need liberation?
[09:47] <knome> do they bring some language support?
[11:10] <flocculant> nope they just bring freedom
[11:10] <flocculant> or liberation at least :D
[11:10] <flocculant> didn't bother saying anything about fonts cos last time I did it was pointless
[11:20] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: we're 11 days from release - if we're going to try to get some increase in testing of rc then we need to do it now :)
[11:53] <knome> lol, well
[11:54] <knome> the liberation fonts are okay, but i think we have better options available
[11:54] <knome> i might be wrong for serif though
[11:54] <knome> (noto serif isn't shipped with the noto packages we have right?)
[12:00] <flocculant> knome: manifest from 30th June has fonts-liberation - don't think it's added, perhaps where it comes from has changed
[12:01] <flocculant> -indic is new
[12:01] <flocculant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25706947/
[12:03] <knome> mhm
[12:31] <knome> maybe we should do a quick overview of the fonts for 18.04 amongst other things too
[12:39] <flocculant> knome: possibly, though last time I brought fonts up it was 'what about this user or that user' so not sure why we need to worry about fonts :)
[12:40] <knome> that discussion was probably about supporting languages
[12:40] <knome> noto should support way more languages than many others, especially if we ship the whole package
[12:40] <flocculant> nope - was about why would we want to include noto iirc
[12:40] <knome> right...
[12:41] <flocculant> or rather -cjk
[12:41] <knome> yep
[12:41] <knome> cjk aka chinese japanese korean
[12:41] <flocculant> yea
[12:41] <knome> eg. language support :P
[12:41] <flocculant> *shrug*
[12:41] <knome> or technically glyph but..
[12:41] <knome> aaanyway
[12:41] <knome> eating and youtubing
[12:41] <knome> not videoing :P
[12:42] <flocculant> don't really see that there's much need to worry about us having 'some' fonts
[12:42] <flocculant> on the other hand - don't much care or have an axe to grind on it
[12:42] <knome> i'd probably just dump most of the other fonts if noto can support most
[12:42] <knome> yeah, it's a detail
[12:42] <flocculant> well
[12:42] <knome> that probably has more meaning for me than you
[12:43] <knome> etc...
[12:43] <flocculant> likely that's just going to really annoy me :)
[12:43] <knome> heh
[12:43] <flocculant> I change fonts - like other stuff in 'appearance overall'
[12:43] <knome> :)
[12:44] <flocculant> and when the scale of 'I need to change this now as well' gets too much - I'll use some other distro 
[12:45] <knome> yeah
[12:45] <knome> though isn't noto our default anyway now? :)
[12:45] <knome> so no extra change there
[12:45] <knome> unless you change it to something else that is now shipped but won't if we do a cull
[12:49] <flocculant> yup
[12:50] <flocculant> obviously that's the same for everyone, not me in particular :)
[12:50] <knome> yep
[13:01] <akxwi-dave> flocculant:  ack.. will sort..
[13:02] <akxwi-dave> oh and when does the new job start?
[13:02] <flocculant> 26th :)
[19:38] <flocculant> bluesabre: do remember what the outcome for the not being able to search new locattions in weather app was?
[19:42] <flocculant> would be quite nice to have that working before release
[19:43] <ochosi> the weather plugin you mean?
[19:44] <flocculant> ochosi: yea
[19:45] <ochosi> oh right, never noticed that bug before
[19:45] <ochosi> just don't use the plugin very much atm
[19:45] <flocculant> just seen some bugmail which reminded me ...
[19:46] <ochosi> is there an upstream report about this too?
[19:46] <flocculant> seems to be more than 1 ...
[19:46] <flocculant> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13877
[19:47] <flocculant> 13901 os a dupe of that one
[19:48] <ochosi> i'll test the patch now
[19:48] <flocculant> ok 
[19:48] <ochosi> if it works we can at least ship it as a patch for 17.10
[19:48] <ochosi> and it's fairly trivial
[19:49] <flocculant> yup
[19:49] <ochosi> i can also make sure it ends up in upstream
[19:49] <flocculant> :)
[19:49] <flocculant> there is an lp one I did in september - linked upstream to it now
[19:50] <flocculant> can't remember why I stopped doing more - vague recollection of chat in #xfce-dev at the time
[19:50] <flocculant> bug 1718182
[19:50] <ochosi> so the patch doesn't seem to help
[19:50] <flocculant> :)
[19:52] <flocculant> must try to find time this week to double check bugs listed 
[19:53] <flocculant> back tomorrow 
[19:57] <ochosi> the patch/analysis is sound though
[19:57] <ochosi> i'll debug a little more later