 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMFDrBIA0PM
 now in backports-landing for artful
 @Valoriez  ^^
[15:07] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[15:08] <mparillo> 138 updates (a few might be regular AA updates) plus a new QML module.
[15:23] <marco-parillo> No warnings on the updates, and a clean re-boot of my VM from the kicker (no need to systemctl reboot). Only flaw: My cursor disappeared when I moved over to the SDDM VM Window (I will re-boot to confirm). Otherwise, new wallpaper, krunner invokes kinfocenter showing Plasma 5.11
[15:24] <marco-parillo> The kicker application Launcher works, launching Discover, Firefox, Kate, Konsole, System Monitor, and the new System Settings. The two minute test on each is successful.
[15:24] <marco-parillo> No dead kittens.
 Any lame or wounded?
[15:25] <marco-parillo> Other than the missing SDDM cursor in my VM window, not even a scratch.
 GTK KCM is slightly ill: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382291
[15:26] <marco-parillo> Poppler-Qt5 is not ours, is it?
[15:29] <acheronuk> nope
 https://twitter.com/jdanitxu/status/917762355613917184
[15:32] <marco-parillo> LO and FF are GTK, right? No serious brokenness with defaults (which I must admit I never change).
[15:33] <acheronuk> marco-parillo: it's the KCM that is bu**ered
 I'm using that new sddm and it looks stable
[15:44] <marco-parillo> Thanks, and I did see my cursor when the screen locker kicked in. I will re-boot my VM to test again.
[15:56] <marco-parillo> I re-booted my VM twice. The first time no cursor in SDDM, but with random clicking and motions, it showed up. The second time, it showed immediately. I suppose I can just call it randomness I cannot reliably repruduce.
[18:18] <valorie> exciting news, acheronuk, now downloading
[18:37] <valorie> acheronuk: should we have a little note about this on the website, or just tweet etc.?
[18:51] <acheronuk> valorie: I'm undecided on that at the moment
[18:58] <valorie> ok
 When is the .1 release?
[19:46] <valorie> ah, might be better to hold off until then, yeah
[19:49] <acheronuk> 1 week from today
[19:50] <acheronuk> not sure I want to distract from normal 17.10 testing either
[20:02] <clivejo> 5.11 feels pretty stable to be fair
[20:30] <acheronuk> clivejo: stable yes. but a few bugs that that don't make it unstable, but are annoying
[20:31] <clivejo> what bugs?
 system favourites can't be deleted, so the advertised hiding of the kicker sidebar can't be made to work
 GTK theme KCM is borked
 plasma vaults can't be deleted via the GUI
[20:33] <valorie> are they gonna fix those?
[20:33] <valorie> I've not read up in #plasma yet
[20:33] <acheronuk> 1st is fixed in git
[20:33] <clivejo> those are features :P
[20:34] <acheronuk> 2nd has a bug but no fix
[20:34] <acheronuk> 3rd has a bug, and a fix in 5.12 comment from the coder
[20:35] <acheronuk> no doubt there is some undiscovered regressions as well, but those are stand out obvious ones.
[20:46] <acheronuk> Yikes! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1721141
[20:49] <valorie> good lord
[21:02] <valorie> did y'all see the email "KDE Applications 17.08.2 packages available for packagers"?
[21:07] <acheronuk> yep. something to get onto when 'big bat' starts
[21:07] <acheronuk> not usre I have the energy for apps before
[21:08] <valorie> I was just wondering how much is just version bumps and how much is actually changes/upgrades
[21:09] <acheronuk> PIM has got a lot of changes 17.04 -> 17.08
[21:09] <acheronuk> the rest is a mix AFAIK
[21:10] <valorie> so just a big job of work no matter what
[21:10] <valorie> ok
[21:11] <valorie> you've been working hard this cycle acheronuk
[21:11] <acheronuk> KCI has most of it done
[21:11] <valorie> in fact you are the Artful hero
[21:11] <valorie> imo
[21:11] <valorie> oh that's good to hear
[21:11] <valorie> even so, it has to be sorted, uploaded, etc.
[21:12] <acheronuk> ported stuff needs some testing as well IMO
[21:12] <clivejo> here here
[21:12] <valorie> indeed
[21:12] <acheronuk> it builds, it goes green, but does it work?
[21:12] <valorie> exactly
[21:14]  * acheronuk is still worried artful will explode with bugs on release day
[21:14] <valorie> heh
[21:15] <valorie> sometimes happens like that
[21:15] <acheronuk> any website banner yet>
[21:15] <valorie> and it's always like a horror movie where bugs and stuff is crawling in through the cracks
[21:15] <acheronuk> ?
[21:15] <acheronuk> more banners?
[21:15] <valorie> I haven't liked any so far
[21:15] <acheronuk> :/
[21:15] <valorie> but I guess I could ask if there are any more
[21:16] <valorie> I want the background to be the new 5.11 wallpaper if possible
[21:16] <valorie> it's pretty!
[21:16] <acheronuk> should be the 5.10 IMO
[21:16] <valorie> if it's 5.10x it should be really blurred or just a bit of it, because it isn't so much (imo)
[21:17] <acheronuk> though I prefer the 5.11
[21:17] <valorie> should be yeah
[21:17] <valorie> unfortunate timing
[21:17] <acheronuk> can find a not too offensive part of 5.10
[21:18] <acheronuk> that timing looks to be set each october from now on. we will get the same next year
[21:18] <acheronuk> looking at plasma schedule
[21:20] <valorie> :(
[21:20] <valorie> oh well
[21:20] <valorie> so it has ever been
[21:21] <acheronuk> we include what we can, and what is stable. end of
[21:21] <valorie> yep