[02:35] <Guest31273> hey, guys. anyone know how to uninstall an application here on Ubuntu-Mate?
[03:52] <Gallomimia> uh, well i usually apt on the command line
[03:53] <Gallomimia> but with the same utility you installed it, usually works
[07:12] <inerkick> Hi guys. My Ubuntu mate wifi doesn't work. Kindly help.
[07:13] <alkisg> Does it work under any linux distribution?
[07:14] <inerkick> it used to work when i had 14.04
[07:14] <inerkick> I did try in Manjaro and Puppylinux, it was working
[07:15] <inerkick> now I got 17.10
[07:15] <inerkick> Ubuntu mate
[07:16] <inerkick> It wasn't even working on 16.05, and all up versions
[07:17] <alkisg> If it is a kernel driver issue, it may affect all kernels
[07:17] <alkisg> So it would be useful to try other flavors or distros with recent kernels
[07:17] <alkisg> If you see that it's working in any distro with e.g. 4.10+ kernel, then it's an ubuntu issue...
[07:18] <alkisg> If not, it's a kernel issue, to be reported against the linux-kernel package
[07:18] <alkisg> Which kernel did Manjaro have?
[07:18] <inerkick> So bad
[07:18] <alkisg> The kernel is millions of lines of code, regressions happen all the time
[07:18] <alkisg> Then people report them, and some of them get solved...
[07:19] <inerkick> i did report on ubuntu and their forum and various of their channels. But I have seen this issue has been like since pretty long time and no one is addressing it, alkisg
[07:20] <alkisg> inerkick: you need to find the proper place to report it
[07:20] <alkisg> To the persons that write that part of the code
[07:20] <alkisg> if it affects all distributions, then of course you should not report it to ubuntu
[07:20] <alkisg> But to the kernel bugzilla
[07:20] <alkisg> That's why I'm suggesting that you test in different distributions with recent kernels first
[07:21] <alkisg> For example, I discovered a kernel bug 2 weeks ago. People were suggesting that I should file it in Ubuntu. But I know that if I file kernel issues there, they won't get solved. So I reported it upstream to the kernel, and it got solved in 5 days.
[07:22] <alkisg> And it will be solved for all distros, not just ubuntu...
[07:22] <inerkick> true
[07:22] <inerkick> it wasn't issue on like even Lxle, i tested it today
[07:22] <alkisg> So it works on lubuntu?
[07:23] <alkisg> Ah lxle, didn't know that one
[07:23] <alkisg> Which kernel does that have?
[07:23] <alkisg> uname -r tells you the kernel version
[07:24] <inerkick> but in lxle it was working on 16.05 version
[07:24] <inerkick> on Manjaro xfce 17.02, It was working, and lxle 16.04 wifi was working
[07:25] <alkisg> There's no 16.05 version
[07:25] <alkisg> Maybe you mean 16.04...
[07:25] <alkisg> There are 3 different kernels in 16.04: in 16.04.1 kernel is 4.4, in 16.04.2 kernel is 4.8, and in 16.04.3 kernel is 4.10
[07:25] <alkisg> So you need to compare
[07:25] <alkisg> uname -r
[07:26] <alkisg> For example the bug that I was mentioning above, happened after kernel 4.11 and before kernel 4.12
[07:27] <inerkick> currently i'm using ubuntu mate and connected with mobile's internet using a cable. and I got 4.12.0-11-generic kernel
[07:27] <inerkick> i am trying to open distro watch to check the kernel of both manjaro and lxle but it's so weak internet i got
[07:28] <alkisg> You can't easily check via the internet, because 16.04 has 3 kernels
[07:28] <alkisg> It will be the same in lxle too, 3 kernels
[07:28] <alkisg> You should best boot it and run uname -r
[07:28] <alkisg> And then mention that "my card works in these kernels and doesn't work in these kernels"
[07:28] <inerkick> ok
[07:28] <inerkick> i will check for sure
[07:28] <alkisg> For example, if you install 4.12 in lxle, it may stop working
[07:31] <inerkick> i can't compare on distrowatch isnt? alkisg
[07:33] <inerkick> like i was checking https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle and  https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro
[08:41] <inerkick> hI alkisg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25712579/ this is the versions of kernel i got
[08:47] <alkisg> inerkick: so maybe your card works until kernel 4.9, and it doesn't work in kernel 4.12
[08:47] <alkisg> There's a wiki page in ubuntu describing how to test other kernel versions
[08:47] <alkisg> So, test with 4.4
[13:37] <mate|20411> hi
[13:37] <mate|20411> haw are you
[13:37] <mate|20411> ar you okey
[13:37] <mate|20411> hay alguien aki
[15:06] <swift110-phone> hey
[15:15] <baimafeima> any Samba experts here?
[16:10] <NoCode> Hey anyone around?
[16:11] <NoCode> Trying to setup my printer, there's no "Printers" icon in Control Center.
[16:13] <NoCode> Using 16.04
[16:13] <nemo> hiya
[16:14] <nemo> woah.
[16:14] <nemo> where's system-config-printer ??
[16:15] <nemo> NoCode: you're right. I was expecting to find it under System → Preferences
[16:15] <nemo> what the heck
[16:15] <nemo> has someone screwed w/ the .desktop file recently, making it no longer appear in menus correctly?
[16:15] <nemo> let's see...
[16:15] <nemo> NoCode: (wonder if it's a gnome3/mate conflict)
[16:15] <NoCode> I actually installed KDE > MATE
[16:16] <NoCode> BUT, this is an old install. Very old.
[16:16] <NoCode> So don't take what I say to be 100%
[16:16] <nemo> mine is really old too.
[16:16] <nemo> but it was there until recently
[16:17] <nemo> wonder if it needs a new mate-foo .desktop file
[16:17] <NoCode> I wonder if I should install system-config-printer-common, system-config-printer-gnome. I guess one at a time to see what it pulls in.
[16:18] <NoCode> system-config-printer-udev is installed already
[16:18] <nemo> oh duh
[16:18] <nemo> System → Administration → Printers
[16:18] <nemo> maybe I just forgot and was always there
[16:19] <NoCode> nothing here
[16:19] <nemo> NoCode: maybe you overrode it in your .local...
[16:19] <nemo>  check in a clean user?
[16:21] <nemo> the division between System → Preferences and System → Administration always seemed a bit arbitrary to me
[16:21] <nemo> and. hardly anything is under "Administration" so I forget to look there
[16:22] <nemo> Gnome Disks is under Preferences but gparted under Administration - even though they are very similar tools ☺
[16:23] <NoCode> bahaha, I just went into KDE config manager thing and added it from there. :|
[16:23] <nemo> oh heh
[16:23] <nemo> why not MATE's ? ☺
[16:24] <nemo> right click on menu, choose edit...
[16:24] <nemo> maybe you'd even see it had been disabled
[16:24] <nemo> but oh well whatev
[16:35] <NoCode> Nothing in the menu editor has printers. :D
[16:37] <NoCode> nemo, Oh, hey! it was system-config-printer-gnome
[16:42] <nemo> O_o
[16:42] <nemo> whaaat
[16:42] <nemo> hm
[16:42] <nemo> time to ask apt where mine comes from
[16:43] <NoCode> printer queue in the menu does not come up either. lol. :D
[16:43] <NoCode> ah well
[16:43] <nemo> $ apt-file find /usr/share/applications/system-config-printer.desktop
[16:43] <nemo> system-config-printer-gnome: /usr/share/applications/system-config-printer.desktop
[16:43] <nemo> indeedy
[16:43] <nemo> hum
[16:43] <nemo> but it definitely is in my menu
[16:44] <NoCode> "print-manager" also suggests, "print-manager: command not found"
[16:44] <NoCode> In terminal
[16:45] <NoCode> Oh, it's a KDE module
[16:45]  * NoCode tosses that out the window
[16:46] <miranda> who likes roblox
[16:46] <miranda> i have robux
[16:46] <miranda> mhahaahahahah
[16:47] <miranda> a**hole
[16:47] <miranda> bit**
[16:47] <miranda> hi
[16:48] <miranda> f
[16:48] <miranda> f
[16:48] <miranda> f
[16:48] <miranda> f
[16:48] <miranda> vcxv
[16:48] <miranda> cc
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> vc
[16:48] <miranda> vc
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> c
[16:48] <miranda> vc
[16:48] <miranda> cx
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> vc
[16:48] <miranda> v
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:48] <miranda> cv
[16:49] <miranda> cv
[16:49] <miranda> cv
[16:49] <miranda> cxv
[16:49] <miranda> cxv
[16:49] <miranda> vc
[16:49] <miranda> c
[16:49] <miranda> c
[16:49] <miranda> vx
[16:49] <miranda> c
[16:49] <miranda> xc
[16:49] <miranda> vcv
[16:49] <miranda> cv
[16:49] <miranda> c
[16:49] <miranda> v
[16:49] <miranda> cv
[16:49] <miranda> x
[16:49] <miranda> v
[16:49] <miranda> xcv
[16:49] <miranda> vcx
[16:49] <miranda> cvx
[16:49] <miranda> cvx
[16:49] <miranda> yxcvu
[16:49] <miranda> yv
[16:49] <miranda> xcu
[16:49] <miranda> y
[16:49] <miranda> u
[16:49] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> uy
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> uy
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> uy
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[16:50] <miranda> y
[16:50] <miranda> u
[17:45] <kebdani> Hello ?
[17:45] <swift110> hey kebdani
[17:46] <kebdani> Oh ! a person !
[17:50] <swift110> yes
[17:50] <manjaro-mate> hey all
[17:50] <manjaro-mate> I wanted to ask you something about Mate Desktop
[17:51] <swift110> manjaro-mate: someone will help you when you get the chance
[17:52] <manjaro-mate> I added the Indicator Applet Complete but when it shows no indicators
[17:52] <swift110> did you reboot your machine
[17:53] <manjaro-mate> I want it to behave just like the indicator in ubuntu mate
[17:53] <manjaro-mate> no
[20:07] <tyler_> Hi
[20:34]  * Claudioo Good Morning