=== kevin is now known as Guest31273 [02:35] hey, guys. anyone know how to uninstall an application here on Ubuntu-Mate? [03:52] uh, well i usually apt on the command line [03:53] but with the same utility you installed it, usually works [07:12] Hi guys. My Ubuntu mate wifi doesn't work. Kindly help. [07:13] Does it work under any linux distribution? [07:14] it used to work when i had 14.04 [07:14] I did try in Manjaro and Puppylinux, it was working [07:15] now I got 17.10 [07:15] Ubuntu mate [07:16] It wasn't even working on 16.05, and all up versions [07:17] If it is a kernel driver issue, it may affect all kernels [07:17] So it would be useful to try other flavors or distros with recent kernels [07:17] If you see that it's working in any distro with e.g. 4.10+ kernel, then it's an ubuntu issue... [07:18] If not, it's a kernel issue, to be reported against the linux-kernel package [07:18] Which kernel did Manjaro have? [07:18] So bad [07:18] The kernel is millions of lines of code, regressions happen all the time [07:18] Then people report them, and some of them get solved... [07:19] i did report on ubuntu and their forum and various of their channels. But I have seen this issue has been like since pretty long time and no one is addressing it, alkisg [07:20] inerkick: you need to find the proper place to report it [07:20] To the persons that write that part of the code [07:20] if it affects all distributions, then of course you should not report it to ubuntu [07:20] But to the kernel bugzilla [07:20] That's why I'm suggesting that you test in different distributions with recent kernels first [07:21] For example, I discovered a kernel bug 2 weeks ago. People were suggesting that I should file it in Ubuntu. But I know that if I file kernel issues there, they won't get solved. So I reported it upstream to the kernel, and it got solved in 5 days. [07:21] Error: Launchpad bug 2 could not be found [07:22] And it will be solved for all distros, not just ubuntu... [07:22] true [07:22] it wasn't issue on like even Lxle, i tested it today [07:22] So it works on lubuntu? [07:23] Ah lxle, didn't know that one [07:23] Which kernel does that have? [07:23] uname -r tells you the kernel version [07:24] but in lxle it was working on 16.05 version [07:24] on Manjaro xfce 17.02, It was working, and lxle 16.04 wifi was working [07:25] There's no 16.05 version [07:25] Maybe you mean 16.04... [07:25] There are 3 different kernels in 16.04: in 16.04.1 kernel is 4.4, in 16.04.2 kernel is 4.8, and in 16.04.3 kernel is 4.10 [07:25] So you need to compare [07:25] uname -r [07:26] For example the bug that I was mentioning above, happened after kernel 4.11 and before kernel 4.12 [07:27] currently i'm using ubuntu mate and connected with mobile's internet using a cable. and I got 4.12.0-11-generic kernel [07:27] i am trying to open distro watch to check the kernel of both manjaro and lxle but it's so weak internet i got [07:28] You can't easily check via the internet, because 16.04 has 3 kernels [07:28] It will be the same in lxle too, 3 kernels [07:28] You should best boot it and run uname -r [07:28] And then mention that "my card works in these kernels and doesn't work in these kernels" [07:28] ok [07:28] i will check for sure [07:28] For example, if you install 4.12 in lxle, it may stop working [07:31] i can't compare on distrowatch isnt? alkisg [07:33] like i was checking https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle and https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro [08:41] hI alkisg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25712579/ this is the versions of kernel i got [08:47] inerkick: so maybe your card works until kernel 4.9, and it doesn't work in kernel 4.12 [08:47] There's a wiki page in ubuntu describing how to test other kernel versions [08:47] So, test with 4.4 [13:37] hi [13:37] haw are you [13:37] ar you okey [13:37] hay alguien aki [15:06] hey [15:15] any Samba experts here? [16:10] Hey anyone around? [16:11] Trying to setup my printer, there's no "Printers" icon in Control Center. [16:13] Using 16.04 [16:13] hiya [16:14] woah. [16:14] where's system-config-printer ?? [16:15] NoCode: you're right. I was expecting to find it under System → Preferences [16:15] what the heck [16:15] has someone screwed w/ the .desktop file recently, making it no longer appear in menus correctly? [16:15] let's see... [16:15] NoCode: (wonder if it's a gnome3/mate conflict) [16:15] I actually installed KDE > MATE [16:16] BUT, this is an old install. Very old. [16:16] So don't take what I say to be 100% [16:16] mine is really old too. [16:16] but it was there until recently [16:17] wonder if it needs a new mate-foo .desktop file [16:17] I wonder if I should install system-config-printer-common, system-config-printer-gnome. I guess one at a time to see what it pulls in. [16:18] system-config-printer-udev is installed already [16:18] oh duh [16:18] System → Administration → Printers [16:18] maybe I just forgot and was always there [16:19] nothing here [16:19] NoCode: maybe you overrode it in your .local... [16:19] check in a clean user? [16:21] the division between System → Preferences and System → Administration always seemed a bit arbitrary to me [16:21] and. hardly anything is under "Administration" so I forget to look there [16:22] Gnome Disks is under Preferences but gparted under Administration - even though they are very similar tools ☺ [16:23] bahaha, I just went into KDE config manager thing and added it from there. :| [16:23] oh heh [16:23] why not MATE's ? ☺ [16:24] right click on menu, choose edit... [16:24] maybe you'd even see it had been disabled [16:24] but oh well whatev [16:35] Nothing in the menu editor has printers. :D [16:37] nemo, Oh, hey! it was system-config-printer-gnome [16:42] O_o [16:42] whaaat [16:42] hm [16:42] time to ask apt where mine comes from [16:43] printer queue in the menu does not come up either. lol. :D [16:43] ah well [16:43] $ apt-file find /usr/share/applications/system-config-printer.desktop [16:43] system-config-printer-gnome: /usr/share/applications/system-config-printer.desktop [16:43] indeedy [16:43] hum [16:43] but it definitely is in my menu [16:44] "print-manager" also suggests, "print-manager: command not found" [16:44] In terminal [16:45] Oh, it's a KDE module [16:45] * NoCode tosses that out the window [16:46] who likes roblox [16:46] i have robux [16:46] mhahaahahahah [16:47] a**hole [16:47] bit** [16:47] hi [16:48] f [16:48] f [16:48] f [16:48] f [16:48] vcxv [16:48] cc [16:48] cv [16:48] vc [16:48] vc [16:48] cv [16:48] cv [16:48] c [16:48] vc [16:48] cx [16:48] cv [16:48] cv [16:48] cv [16:48] vc [16:48] v [16:48] cv [16:48] cv [16:49] cv [16:49] cv [16:49] cxv [16:49] cxv [16:49] vc [16:49] c [16:49] c [16:49] vx [16:49] c [16:49] xc [16:49] vcv [16:49] cv [16:49] c [16:49] v [16:49] cv [16:49] x [16:49] v [16:49] xcv [16:49] vcx [16:49] cvx [16:49] cvx [16:49] yxcvu [16:49] yv [16:49] xcu [16:49] y [16:49] u [16:49] y [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] uy [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] uy [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] uy [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [16:50] y [16:50] u [17:45] Hello ? [17:45] hey kebdani [17:46] Oh ! a person ! [17:50] yes [17:50] hey all [17:50] I wanted to ask you something about Mate Desktop [17:51] manjaro-mate: someone will help you when you get the chance [17:52] I added the Indicator Applet Complete but when it shows no indicators [17:52] did you reboot your machine [17:53] I want it to behave just like the indicator in ubuntu mate [17:53] no [20:07] Hi [20:34] * Claudioo Good Morning