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IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @acheronuk, thank you, i will try it, too bad isn't free (as in freedom)03:03
KF5WYXHi All.  I had a difficult time installing Kubuntu 17.04 today. Finally got installed, but there was an error towards the end of the install script - didn't catch it to copy, but now the package manager seems to be borked, and I don't know how to resolve it. see: https://pastebin.com/wiDpjPVL03:05
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @KF5WYX, it seems you ran out of space in your /boot partition, do a df -h /* and check03:27
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cagrovernoobie question.  How do I set up my email services with loopback?  I see lots on Google about how to send, but not where to set the SMTP server and credentials to use for sending...05:53
cagroverOr should I ask in the gitter.im room?05:53
cagroveroops.. sry... wrong channel.. lol05:54
Char|ieHey guys, Im trying to create a fancy-ish pdf from scratch. Id like to put on background images and text over it. Whats crucial though is that I need to learn how to build a page where it links to a page or section in the pdf06:30
Char|ieIm not sure how to put this in keywords in search in google :/06:31
Char|ieCan anyone help out?06:31
hateballUh... I am not sure how it's Kubuntu related :)06:32
Char|ieThis is a question I should be asking Libreoffice right?06:32
Char|iewell I use Kubuntu :/06:32
hateballChar|ie: Yeah :D06:32
Char|iek.06:32
hateballChar|ie: But really you only make a document with TOC, export to PDF and it should make hyperlinks06:32
hateballAutomagically06:32
Char|ieTOC?06:32
hateballTable of contents06:32
Char|ieOkay :) ty06:33
hateballhttps://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Creating_a_Table_of_Contents06:33
Char|ieawesome :D06:42
Char|iety06:42
hateballChar|ie: No worries :)07:06
lordievaderGood morning07:20
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john85BOO!09:50
john85if anyone is there,  i have a question09:53
john85i am running windows 8 and kubi with grub boot loader09:54
john85i have one of those new laptops with windows preinstalled on a recovery partition,  can i safely reinstall windows without upsetting grub or kubi?09:55
deng#stripe10:06
hateballjohn85: reinstalling Windows will kill your bootloader and replace it with Windows own10:13
hateball!fixgrub | john8510:13
ubottujohn85: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub210:13
hateballjohn85: but quite easily fixable ^10:14
john85ok,  i wont bother then10:14
john85i have no need to really,  just be good to clear out all the junk thats accumulated over the years since i now only ever use it for one thing,  and i will hopefully have fully migrated to kubuntu soon anyway10:15
hateballjohn85: well you can liveboot and resize the partitions, if you want to reclaim space10:17
hateballand on the when you are finally free, you can kill the windows partition altogether, grub shouldnt even mind as it's in MBR + on your / partition10:18
john85im getting a new SSD soon,  so dont think i will bother worrying about messing about with my current drive10:18
hateballah :)10:18
john85will keep the old drive,  just in case i need windows for something10:19
hateballprobably wise10:19
john85i paid for it after all10:19
hateballjohn85: you could get an enclosure for the old drive, reinstall a windows VM and keep it on that drive10:20
hateballattached over USB, rather than having to swap back and forth :p10:20
john85good idea :)10:20
john85thanks10:20
hateballThey are cheap enough these days10:21
john85i was thinking about a VM, but never thought of doing it like that10:21
hateballwell of course performance will suffer compared to keeping it on SSD10:22
hateballbut if it's just for the odd occassion...10:22
john85ye10:22
john85cant wait till i get my broadband in two weeks10:25
hateball:)10:25
john85its unfortunate i have to wait 2 weeks though10:26
hateballYes, nothing quite as annoying10:27
john85its lucky i have BB at work, last place i worked didnt10:29
john85but then i did have BB at home10:30
john85actually,  thats not quite true,  work did have BB,  but only certain people had access to it10:31
john85same here really,  only a select few are allowed wi fi password10:32
hateballodd, unless bandwidth comes at a premium10:33
hateballeven low end routers will offer guestnet functionality these days10:34
john85wifi password here is shite,  password on works laptop is shit too lol10:34
hateballeven so, you can QoS10:34
john85i think its more to do with trust than bandwidth10:34
hateballhence guestnet :p10:34
hateballbut that's more suited for !ot ;D10:34
john85this channel is always so packed but always so quiet,  unless people just remain logged in or go off into private chats10:39
hateballyes10:40
john85im needed on shop floor10:41
john85bye for now10:41
BluesKajHey folks11:55
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IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Good day everyone13:18
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> anyone knows how to reatart the x server so it reads changes in xorg.conf without rebooting?13:18
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> already tried sddm restart but isn't reading changes in xorg.conf13:19
lordievaderRestarting sddm should do that...13:21
lordievaderSince X is restarted.13:21
BluesKajdo we even have xorg.conf by default anymore?13:23
hateballBluesKaj: Not my knowledge13:25
hateballto my*13:25
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @lordievader, exactly, but it jus doesn't read it, but if i restart the machine it would take the changes13:25
hateballBut it is still required to set some systemwide options for the nvidia blob and what not13:25
lordievaderDGUERRERO: how are you making the changes?13:26
BluesKajhateball, yeah that's nvidia-xconfig13:27
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @lordievader, nano directly to xorg.conf13:27
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> hateball: even with nvidia-xconfig, it will just take the changes after rebooting13:28
lordievaderAre there files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d which override the settings?13:28
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> no, doesn't even have a .d directory13:28
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> and it's driving me crazy because I want to connect a UHD tv via HDMI, but the max resolution avaliable for it is 1920x1080, so instead of add the resolution, changes the dpi to 30x30, and you can't read anything13:31
BluesKajDGUERRERO I have to ask, does your gpu support 4k13:36
BluesKaj?13:36
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> in theory, only spupoort it at 30hz13:41
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> and in 60 the max is 2560x144013:41
BluesKaj30hz can be watchable, but pans are probly jerky13:45
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @BluesKaj, I think it's betther than the 30x30 dpi i hav-e right now hehehe13:48
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IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> *better13:48
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BluesKajDGUERRERO, right , which gpu are you running ?13:50
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Guest51354Hi. I have a directory and the user and group owner is ubuntu. Now I want to allow another user jenkins to access that folder with the same rights as ubuntu user. What should I do ?13:53
Guest51354I tried adding the user jenkins to ubuntu group as its secondary group but did not work13:54
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @Guest51354, Hi, if you have intermediate linux skills, i would suggest you to use an ACL for that user in the directory.13:55
Guest51354Yes I can learn and do that but is there an easier way ?13:55
Guest51354a workaround ?13:55
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> @Guest51354, did you checked the permission for owner and group are the same? it can be dangerous...13:55
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> but it will be easier13:56
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> BluesKaj: i have and old but warry GT540m13:57
Guest51354owner and group are the same yes but ubuntu group has users ubuntu and jenkins only13:57
IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> maybe you need to apply these permissions recursively?14:02
douglmorning folks14:10
BluesKaj'morning dougl14:20
douglHey BluesKaj how are you doing today?14:21
BluesKajdougl, good thanks, and you?14:21
douglBluesKaj, not bad - working out a few bugs wondering if I should do release update (?) on my 14.04 LTS but it aint broke so I am nervous about fixing it14:27
BluesKajdougl, dunno much about 16.04, barely used it so I can' comment, but 18.04 promises a lot of big changes. I'll probly be testing it in a few weeks.14:33
BluesKajcan't comment14:33
hateballdougl: be aware that 14.04 to 16.04 is not a supported Kubuntu upgrade14:34
hateballdue to the 4.x -> 5.x14:34
hateballIt has worked when I've done it tho, but I lost my kwallet in the process14:34
hateballmight have been some other minor issues, but none that I can remember now14:35
BluesKajthat's no loss :-)14:35
douglBluesKaj, aww you caught me fishing for advice again... I will probably wait... Thats what I am talking about...14:35
BluesKajthe change fropm kde/plasma4 to 5 is q big one too14:36
douglyou saved me the effort... I will clean install and dual boot 14.04 and 18.04 when the time comes14:36
douglin a few weeks it will be beta you are testing?14:37
BluesKajdougl, best to use separate / and /home partitions for LTS  IMO14:37
BluesKajno betas for a while14:38
BluesKajI'm on beta 2 Artful atm14:39
douglBluesKaj, agreed been doing it so long I don't know if you taught me or that is something I picked up in my gentoo years,,, sometimes /var is independent partition too14:39
BluesKajyeah, but /var isn't really necessary14:41
douglBluesKaj, how is that working for you - Artful14:41
BluesKajworking nicely14:42
BluesKajthink we're already close to the final release package and kernel wise14:43
douglNice14:43
BluesKaj17.10 has been a remarkably smooth development vs previous versions IME14:44
BluesKaj'morning genii14:45
geniiBluesKaj: Mornin' :)14:46
vrmuppallawhen 17.10 is released, does the system automatically update to the final version from the beta ? Do the repos also reflect that ? If so, how can I verify that ?15:23
oerheksvrmuppalla, yes, 17.10 beta2 will upgrade to the final 17.10, no need for changing repos.15:24
vrmuppallathanks.15:31
douglanyone know where the screen saver is on xfce?15:43
oerheksbetter ask in #xubuntu15:44
dougloerheks, thank you - I should have know better, was just being lazy I guess :)15:47
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IwakiHi all. Anyone here who got experience with working in Singapore? I'm looking to be closer to my Indonesian fiance for a few years. Currently in the Netherlands19:43
BluesKajIwaki, this the wrong chat for your questrion19:44
IwakiSorry. You're right19:44
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abbaHello, how to tell for how long is Kubuntu 17.04 zesty zapus?23:20
abbagoing to be supported23:20
krytarikabba: By checking the release notes, for example.23:28
valorieabba: approx. another 3 months23:45
abbaok23:49
abbathanks23:49

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