[04:28] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: awake?
[05:43] <ducasse> good morning
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[05:46] <Bashing-om> wb ducasse :)
[05:52] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje, Bashing-om - all well with you guys?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> great here, coffee & irc
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: purism made it!
[05:55] <ducasse> yep, i heard. good news :)
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:59] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: now let's see how far they'll get with this ;)
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> yeah im curious aswell
[06:51] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:51] <EriC^^> just woke up
[06:51] <EriC^^> what's purism?
[06:51] <EriC^^> hey ducasse Bashing-om
[06:53] <ducasse> morning EriC^^
[06:53] <Bashing-om> Hey guys, Not much to hold my attention - I keep wandering off :)
[06:54] <ducasse> always quiet around this time, Bashing-om :)
[06:56] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yeah, the sun is over the Pacific . Sane people are sleeping :P
[07:20] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:21] <ducasse> hiya lordievader - rise and shine :)
[07:24] <lordievader> Hey ducasse , how are you?
[07:26] <ducasse> still waking up, but very determined to stay inside today. raining and foggy outside, around freezing.
[07:38] <Bashing-om> It's off this time to bed , Good nite all \o
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> bbl work
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:56] <oerheks> heya BluesKaj :-)
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hi oerheks
[17:02]  * nacc is finding himself with basically zero patience for new users on #ubuntu these days
[17:02] <nacc> maybe I should take a hiatus
[17:07] <BluesKaj> for at least an hour :-)
[17:07] <nacc> BluesKaj: yeah
[17:11] <ducasse> nacc: "i want to do something dumb, i just want you to tell me how and not tell me why i shouldn't" is hard to get excited about
[17:11] <nacc> ducasse: yeah
[17:14] <BluesKaj> or object to every suggestion whether they've tried it or not ....they have an idea how to fix something but need validation without dislosing it
[17:15] <BluesKaj> trying not to look like noob
[17:15] <nacc> BluesKaj: yeah, I've gotten very frustrated with users who are trying to be too clever
[17:16] <nacc> unix/linux has existed a long time without you, people have solved these problems and a lot of those people are way smarted than we are :)
[17:16] <nacc> use those solutions, don't try to be cute
[17:17] <BluesKaj> well, i stay away from a lot of questions that I know are beyond me, but sometimes a little knowledge can get in the way too :-)
[17:18] <nacc> heh
[23:34] <nacc> welp, working on landing a `git ubuntu build` change that will let you (or anyone) clone a source package repo, cherry-pick an upstream change (presuming it applies cleanly) and generate a .deb from it for testing
[23:34] <nacc> "it works here" so far :)
[23:36] <Bashing-om> Been doing a lot of homework ^ huh, nacc ?
[23:38] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, the hoops you have to jump through to make git/srcpkgs do the above in the general case is ... crazy :)
[23:38] <nacc> basically, we create an equivalent quilt patch to the upstream change and build that instead
[23:40] <Bashing-om> matsasc: Way over my skill set .. but all in kbowing the tools and then how to use them .