[00:35] <ali1234> diddledan: this will explain it https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/13/stob_remember_the_monoids/
[00:36] <ali1234> or maybe not
[06:15] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:56] <Gargoyle> mornin' brobostigon
[06:56] <brobostigon> morning Gargoyle
[09:07] <SuperMatt> hoobledoopwhoop everybody
[09:28] <Seeker`> quite.
[09:59] <diddledan> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/trumps-doj-tries-to-rebrand-weakened-encryption-as-responsible-encryption/
[10:05] <SuperMatt> I don't understand how these people don't understand that we have PKI. It's out in the public. Nothing anyone can do now can stop it.
[10:06] <foobarry> i used a £3M deep learning computer to talk Trump
[10:07] <foobarry> it learned english and grammar purely from trump tweets sent 2015-2017
[10:07] <foobarry> using a recurrent neural network
[10:12] <diddledan> foobarry: dear god, that sounds like the spawn of satan
[10:28] <foobarry> then it
[10:28] <foobarry> Top people like a successful way, you have one of America, Trump Clinton go to vote!""
[10:28] <foobarry> invents new tweets character by characer based on probabilities and what it's learned
[10:29] <foobarry> Donald Trump is a real story of a great people of the people of the White House to start the bad thing to be the best president!""
[10:29] <foobarry> @realDonaldTrump is the only one who doesn't have a great politicians and the border back and wonderful people are doing a great honor!
[10:30] <foobarry> after the @ symbol it's learned that commonly a r-e-a-l-D follows it then likely an o etc
[10:30] <foobarry> "Entrepreneurs: Don't know this White House, I want to win in Florida!"
[10:30] <foobarry> Trump ready to pay a failure. Guy so can't get someone in the state.""
[10:30] <foobarry> 10:29
[10:30] <foobarry> etc
[10:31] <foobarry> i also trained it to write new shakespeare based on learning how to talk from shakespeare
[10:31] <foobarry> not this isn't learning whole words like a bot, rather forming words characteer by character
[10:32] <SuperMatt> I would have thought that'd a more difficult concept than understanding context of words
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> Surely Shakespeare is just taking an common sentence and then using a thesaurus?
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> "I will walk the dog down the street"
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> "I shall promenade my lupine compatriot along boulevard."
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> Hrm...maybe not
[10:34] <SuperMatt> lupine is wold
[10:34] <SuperMatt> *wolf
[10:35] <SuperMatt> you're thinking canine
[10:35] <TwistedLucidity> Was trying to be more Shakespear-y
[10:36] <SuperMatt> Shakespear would have used hound in place of dog, but street would have probably remained the same, if I'm honest
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> Also, "lupine" is "wolf-like".
[10:36] <diddledan> my would have been mine
[10:36] <SuperMatt> Not that I'm a literary scholar
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> Should have chucked a few "thou"s in as well for good measure. :-P
[10:37] <diddledan> and some "est" on the end of a few random words
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Indeed
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Indeedest
[10:37] <SuperMatt> While we're on the subject, anyone been watching upstart crow?
[10:37] <diddledan> o_O
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Wozzat?
[10:37] <diddledan> no idea what that is
[10:38] <SuperMatt> head on over to bbc iplayer for a black adder-eque, ben elton penned, romp through shakespear's life, starring David Mitchell as the bard himself
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> That can only go one of two ways; sheer genius or utter garbage. There is no middle ground in a set-up like that.
[10:39] <SuperMatt> Good news! It's sheer genius
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> \o/
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> Great....now I have the earworm "I have a cunning plan"
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> No, stop; now my brain has moved on to the "As cunning as a fox..." skit
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> ARGH!
[10:43] <TwistedLucidity> Back to lupines for a bit, I met some Eastern European Wolfdogs a couple of months ago. Gorgeous creatures. Although probably would scare the wotsit out of one if seen running through a forest.
[10:54] <SuperMatt> https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57080623/Screen_Shot_2017_10_10_at_8.03.27_AM.0.png aso very lupine
[10:59] <TwistedLucidity> Star Wars: The Search for more Merch
[11:02] <foobarry> SuperMatt: Recurrent neural networks do this well given sufficient training
[11:02] <foobarry> i used the country's biggest GPU cluster to do it :D
[11:03] <foobarry> the shakespeare stuff was great
[11:04] <foobarry> https://pastebin.com/xY10f50R
[11:04] <foobarry> sometimes it invents new words that just sounds shakespeary
[11:05] <foobarry> So arm these barks, infake, we the intended
[11:05] <foobarry> Ships of your pride!
[11:05] <foobarry> i love how using a good source (e.g. shakespeare) it learns excellent grammar
[11:06] <foobarry> it can also learn music, syntactically correct latex, html,e tc
[11:06] <foobarry> you can even feed it the linux kernel source and it will produce compilable code
[11:06] <foobarry> ...sort of
[11:06] <diddledan> I worry what that would do when executed :-p
[11:07] <foobarry> i was thinking of feeding it beatles lyrics and it would write totally novel songs
[11:08] <diddledan> feed it lyrics AND music and get it to compose musical songs rather than just the words
[11:08] <foobarry> it can do guitar tabs
[11:09] <foobarry> http://www.mattmoocar.me/blog/tabPlayer/
[11:15] <foobarry> badly
[11:30] <marshmn> hi all; I'm thinking of changing my UID; so if I change it (using usermod) and I guess I have to chown all my files too - apart from that am I likely to run into any issues?
[11:31] <marshmn> it feels like it ought to be OK - but slightly nervous...
[11:32] <diddledan> marshmn: user id or username?
[11:32] <marshmn> user id
[11:32] <marshmn> I want to make it 2000 or something instead of 1000
[11:33] <marshmn> and same for gid too, actually
[11:33] <SuperMatt> You shouldn't come across any issues, but I would suggest using find to change your permissions. find /home/<youruser> -uid 1000 -exec chown 2000 {} \;
[11:33] <diddledan> then yes you'll need to chown. try `sudo find /home/username -uid <olduid> -exec chown <newuid> '{}' \;`
[11:34] <SuperMatt> HAHAHA
[11:34] <marshmn> thanks both :)
[11:34] <diddledan> and the same for group `sudo find /home/username -gid <oldgid> -exec chgrp <newgid> '{}' \;`
[11:34] <marshmn> I guess I'm best off not being logged in as this user whilst doing all this :)
[11:35] <SuperMatt> Absolutely
[11:35] <SuperMatt> I'd log in as root from the command line
[11:35] <SuperMatt> But I wonder why you're doing it
[11:36] <marshmn> I'm trying to work around an issue; it seems that if you use Docker, and you are using the "user namespace remapping" feature, then there are issues if a user in your container happens to have the same UID as your host user
[11:36] <marshmn> and since containers often create a new user with UID 1000, that becomes a problem
[11:36] <marshmn> it's likely a bug
[11:37] <marshmn> but a reasonable short-term workaround appears to be to set the host user UID to be something out of the way that's less likely to conflict
[11:38] <foobarry> marshmn: your local machine?
[11:38] <marshmn> yes
[11:38] <foobarry> alternatively you could create a new user account rather than changing the 1000 one
[11:39] <foobarry> then duplicating your home dir and chowning in
[11:39] <foobarry> it*
[11:39] <marshmn> true
[11:39] <foobarry> then you can fail back if req'd
[11:39] <foobarry> remember to chown the . folders in home too. the whole shebang
[12:14] <diddledan> patch your bits! https://www.scmagazine.com/patch-tuesday-microsoft-62-vulnerabilities-28-critical-one-spotted-in-the-wild/article/699296/
[14:42] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/dmataconis/status/917496578285490178
[16:09] <marshmn> diddledan: I did a bit more research into changing my UID/GID - these are the steps that I've come up with in total: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s231/sh/412fb93d-b34c-4180-82f3-7a881d8c428f/1678d00c6abd1232ca03220b6992d169
[16:09] <marshmn> any comments welcome...
[19:48] <m0nkey_> diddledan: Do I want this APU2 board for pfSense?
[21:53] <daftykins> m0nkey_: YES!
[21:53] <daftykins> hi from London \o
[21:53] <m0nkey_> lol
[21:53] <m0nkey_> ok, i'll order tonight.
[21:53] <m0nkey_> getting the APU2C4
[21:53] <daftykins> just turned up at my clients' pad in SW6
[21:53] <daftykins> gotta sit in the floor as there's no furniture yet
[21:53] <m0nkey_> 16GB SSD should be enough
[21:54] <daftykins> or on, even
[21:54] <daftykins> yeah tonnes, actually i did an update on my clients one down in Spain, it has a 16GB microSD in it or something?
[21:54] <daftykins> isn't too painful to do a slice duplication and update
[21:55] <m0nkey_> I'll have to perform a full install of pfSense as 2.4 will be available by then
[21:56] <daftykins> funkeh
[21:57] <daftykins> i'm likely to suggest he get another one for here in London, then we'll have 100/100Mb fibre here, the 50/50 in Spain and the 40/5 in Guernsey - start running services between for free calls etc :D
[21:58] <m0nkey_> I understand these can do GbE
[21:58] <daftykins> hells yeah
[21:59] <m0nkey_> ok, sold.
[22:00] <m0nkey_> $168 USD, APU2C4, black enclosure, 12V plug, 16GB SSD and USB to DB9 cable.
[22:00] <daftykins> no love for web admin?
[22:00] <m0nkey_> then whatever shipping and taxes are
[22:00] <m0nkey_> Need serial cable for install :)
[22:01] <daftykins> ah because you don't have anything with mSATA eh?
[22:01] <daftykins> i suppose any such other method would only be a bit of a bodge
[22:01] <m0nkey_> Correct
[22:05] <m0nkey_> I'm hovering over the order now button.. lol
[22:08] <daftykins> do it before i send the nearest canuck over to do it for you ;D
[22:08] <daftykins> clearly red enclosure is cooler though
[22:08] <daftykins> it says "don't unplug me!"
[22:08] <m0nkey_> i wanted blue
[22:08] <daftykins> d'aww
[22:09] <daftykins> right i gotta do patch tuesday things on my home box remotely, biab
[22:09] <m0nkey_> so i want the red one?
[22:09] <m0nkey_> does it look super cool?
[22:10] <daftykins> sec i have a pic
[22:10] <daftykins> i shall PM a link
[22:10] <m0nkey_> ok
[22:33] <m0nkey_> daftykins: Ordered.
[22:36] <m0nkey_> Now I gotta figure out how I migrate my existing config
[22:38] <daftykins> already got a pfsense? backup -> import :>
[22:39] <daftykins> didn't do too badly on a mainlander SIM for me to be online these last couple of days
[22:39] <daftykins> i paid £30 for a pay as you go SIM with 3000 mins, 3000 texts and 12GB data from 'Three'
[22:39] <m0nkey_> not if the interfaces are different
[22:40] <m0nkey_> ie.. going from re to igb
[22:40] <m0nkey_> so a manual modification will be required
[22:40] <m0nkey_> SpaceX is live.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1zeGSvhIw
[22:53] <diddledan> beautiful evening for it
[22:54] <daftykins> heyup chap \o
[22:54] <diddledan> ello :-)
[22:54] <daftykins> i feel like such a country bumpkin using the London underground
[22:54] <diddledan> yeah, I can't work that thing, either
[22:55] <diddledan> "what do you mean I'm not allowed to stand on the left?"
[22:56] <daftykins> my flight out of Malaga was 1hr late ;_;
[22:56] <diddledan> oof
[22:56] <daftykins> but worst of all a vending machine stole mah money and give me nothing!
[22:56] <diddledan> you back home now or still with us on the britland?
[22:56] <daftykins> *gave
[22:57] <daftykins> i'm still invading yeah, i'm now at my clients' new London pad
[22:57] <daftykins> £600k+ and it's just a little 2 bed 2 bath apartment in a gated community
[22:57] <daftykins> i'm sat on the floor 'cause there's nowt here
[22:57] <diddledan> aww :-(
[22:58] <daftykins> he's gone around and drawn in big thick black pen where he invisions furniture etc, haha
[22:58] <daftykins> *envisions, sheesh my typing tonight
[22:59] <diddledan> that sounds like a bad idea. what if it doesn't rub-off?
[22:59] <daftykins> well in true him fashion, the whole place is being gutted, walls moved, etc
[22:59] <m0nkey_> Isn't that you're thing, diddledan? I mean, rubbing one off should be your thing.
[23:00] <daftykins> XD
[23:01] <diddledan> I refuse to comment on the basis that I might incriminate myself
[23:01] <daftykins> wise
[23:02] <daftykins> i've just fed his addy into hyperoptic.com again but it still says 'fibre to be ordered'
[23:02] <daftykins> some cages will be rattled 'pon the 'morrow then, methinks
[23:02] <diddledan> they stuck the landing on a boat AGAIN
[23:02] <diddledan> they're getting rather silly with their landings
[23:02] <daftykins> must be taking a while to bring it up the Thames ;D
[23:03] <diddledan> and it was in the dark!
[23:04] <daftykins> sure was when i got in
[23:05] <diddledan> they're having trouble with their video feeds today tho
[23:06] <daftykins> oh silly me you were referring to SpaceX, not hyperoptic
[23:06] <diddledan> is that image showing that it's half-way across the atlantic in 15 minutes?!
[23:07] <daftykins> still amused by them bringing fibre into central London via the Thames though
[23:07] <daftykins> i wonder what that would cost... Guernsey to London, mmm
[23:08] <diddledan> 3/4ths the way from launch to africa
[23:08] <daftykins> good lord you can hear noise from neighbouring apartments easily
[23:14] <diddledan> from standing in florida to africa landfall in 21 minutes. sure beats the heck out of concorde!
[23:14] <daftykins> =]
[23:15] <daftykins> y'see that talk of riding the 'BFR' for land travel?
[23:15] <diddledan> no?
[23:16] <daftykins> think it's another SpaceX pipe dream
[23:16] <diddledan> well hyperloop is another of elon's attempts so it isn't surprising, I guess
[23:17] <daftykins> guy has too much goin' on
[23:17] <daftykins> i mean how do you even position that many pies to keep your fingers in them all in one go?
[23:18] <daftykins> alright i best sleep, there is stuff to be do
[23:18] <daftykins> toodles \o
[23:18] <diddledan> nn