[01:21] <mparillo> No updates to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Beta2/Kubuntu since I finished. JR (the distro-denier) used to remove the details from the wiki for the GA announcement in favor of a simple link to kubuntu.org, and I followed that tradition for WW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu)
[01:24] <valorie> heh, new upgrades just now
[01:25] <valorie> python, libwhoopsie, etc.
[01:25] <valorie> and another network-manager update
[01:26] <valorie> which hopefully fixes netplan which is not ready
[01:28] <mparillo> I hate the Ubuntu Wiki. I try to clone the page and I get: A page with the name 'ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu' already exists. Try a different name. Then I see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes which points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Kubuntu so I try A page with the name 'ArtfulAardvark/Kubuntu' already exists. Try a different name.
[01:29] <mparillo> I wonder if it already exists as a hidden page
[01:29] <valorie> huh
[01:29] <valorie> I hate it as well
[01:30] <valorie> so I get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Kubuntu successfully
[01:31] <valorie> how about just replacing beta2 with "rc" like I did for the news story
[01:31] <mparillo> Yet, I see: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ArtfulAardvark/Kubuntu
[01:31] <valorie> or I can do so
[01:31] <valorie> both of us can't
[01:31] <valorie> lol
[01:32] <mparillo> And the info says I created it today.
[01:32] <valorie> nice!
[01:32] <valorie> working behind your own back
[07:07] <valorie> heading to bed, but someone can publish that story on the the website (with fixed links, etc.) when the RC is published
[07:08] <valorie> otherwise see everyone at the meeting
[10:37] <clivejo> what meeting?
[10:54] <acheronuk> tomorrow night's?
 That's ages away
 @acheronuk, You da Man!!! - That hat is so cool
[16:05] <ahoneybun> something like that valorie
[18:36] <valorie> yeah, I was thinking yesterday was Thursday
[18:36] <valorie> instead of today!
[18:36] <valorie> now I have one more day in the week
[18:36] <valorie> :-)
[19:19] <clivejo> wish I could find an extra day
[19:20] <clivejo> mine always go mising
[19:21] <ahoneybun> I can't wait till Friday!
[19:21] <clivejo> why?
[19:21] <clivejo> what happens tomorrow?
[19:21] <clivejo> bar Fermanagh and Omagh Council green bin collection
 @Sick_Rimmit that's mine
[19:48] <clivejo> no no no
[19:48] <clivejo> I don't want to learn Linux in five days
 huh?
[19:48] <clivejo> stupid repeatitive YouTube advert
 @clivejo, I've been getting it too
[19:49] <clivejo> I wanna beat Josh with a big plank of wood
 Speaking of wood, how's your Wall?
[19:51] <clivejo> finished the wall and put roof on it
[19:52] <clivejo> hoping it won't blow off until I get it finished
 :D
[20:03] <valorie> a roof on a wall?
[20:04] <clivejo> yeah
[20:04]  * valorie is still waiting for a picture of it
[20:04] <valorie> clivejo: why?
[20:04] <acheronuk> most of my walls have a roof
[20:04] <clivejo> its Ireland
[20:04] <clivejo> you need a roof!
[20:04] <valorie> !
[20:04] <acheronuk> my furniture would get wet if not
[20:04] <clivejo> that's the whole idea :P
[20:05] <clivejo> its to keep Max dry"!
[20:05] <valorie> um, yes in a HOUSE
[20:05] <acheronuk> dog house
[20:05] <valorie> oh, I thought all along this was a wall in a field or so
[20:05] <clivejo> its a "lean to" at my back door
[20:05] <valorie> duh
[20:05] <valorie> got it now
[20:05]  * clivejo shakes head
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie https://i.imgur.com/MHbbANX.png
 hope it's a well nailed down roof
 Heh
 That's pretty
 What is it?
 A cat 5 hurricane? Lol
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie https://i.imgur.com/4DXdzmh.png
[20:58] <clivejo> stop it!
[20:58] <acheronuk> sorry
[20:59]  * acheronuk hides
[21:18] <valorie> sounds a bit dire
[21:53] <clivejo> I may get screwing tomorrow
[21:54] <valorie> is that tmi or?
[22:06] <clivejo> huh?
[22:06] <clivejo> 6 inch self tapping screws
[22:06] <clivejo> holds the foor down
[22:10] <valorie> I hope you have a good power drill
[22:10] <valorie> 6" are long ones!
[22:10] <clivejo> I do indeed
[22:10] <clivejo> not huge
[22:11] <valorie> well, we found lots of 10" spikes in the old deck at the cabin
[22:11] <valorie> *those* are huge
[22:12] <valorie> some were bent and couldn't be removed from the log supports
[22:12]  * clivejo blushes
[22:12] <valorie> so the ashes in the fireplace this year will be interesting
[22:12] <valorie> I have half a bucketful in teh garage waiting for recycling
[22:13] <valorie> or I might try to find someone with a forge who wants 'em
[22:16] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucymk0q70aQ
[22:16]  * clivejo giggles
[22:35] <valorie> omg fart smells
[22:35] <clivejo> I don't need a machine!
[22:36] <clivejo> so no more artwork/banner submissions?
[22:37] <valorie> oops
[22:37] <valorie> I forgot to write to the list
[22:37] <valorie> I knew there was something nagging at the back of my mind....
[22:45] <clivejo> nag nag nag
[22:59] <valorie> ok sent
[22:59] <valorie> I need to do things right away before they slip out of consciousness
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IzRGXNkTZU
 valorie: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458
 Needs moar Kubuntu hypee :D
[23:34] <valorie> ok, had not heard about this
[23:38] <valorie> added it to the phab
[23:39] <valorie> ahoneybun: can you retweet about it?
[23:40] <ahoneybun> I could
[23:41] <valorie> too early for me to join the on-air, but nice that they are doing that
[23:41] <valorie> and a bit of good discussion on that little forum or whatever they call it
[23:47] <valorie> and I thought today was RC?
[23:47] <valorie> or am I reading the schedule wrong
[23:48] <tsimonq2> valorie: Today is FinalFreeze.
[23:48] <valorie> October 12th
[23:48] <valorie> ￼ FinalFreeze, ￼ ReleaseCandidate, ￼ LanguagePackTranslationDeadline
[23:48] <valorie> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[23:48] <tsimonq2> i.e., all changes uploaded from now on should be either release-critical or 0-day SRUs.
[23:48] <tsimonq2> valorie: True, but Release Schedules sometimes don't reflect reality. :P
[23:49] <tsimonq2> valorie: Have a read here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-October/004221.html
[23:49] <tsimonq2> (last paragraph)
[23:49] <valorie> well, I've been reading the release-team chan
[23:49] <tsimonq2> So yeah while it says it on paper, it won't be until Friday or Saturday. ;)
[23:49] <acheronuk> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2017-October/001230.html
[23:50] <valorie> fine with me although I'll be busy much of Saturday
[23:50] <acheronuk> "We will shut down cronjobs and spin some RC images late Friday or early Saturday once the archive and proposed-migration have settled a bit"
[23:51] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Same text, different link. :P
[23:51] <tsimonq2> Damn Britney!
[23:51] <valorie> yeah
[23:51] <tsimonq2> valorie: You *do* know who Britney is, right?
[23:52] <acheronuk> As RC images could in theory become final ones (hahaha!), they need to let all things uploaded and seeded get in as much as possible 1st
[23:52] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Noo, RC images are *never* final :P /s
[23:53] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: that's why I laughed sarcastically
[23:53] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Sadly we can't always laugh sarcastically!
[23:55] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I can have a good try :P
[23:55] <valorie> as long as I've been testing there have always been a few last-minute bugs
[23:55] <valorie> and last-minute changes
[23:55] <valorie> which sometimes lead to more last-minute bugs
[23:56] <acheronuk> indeed