 @samzn, on the road to the best, sometimes we have to travel the better...
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 @mariogrip is on haelium! 😜
 So, the new build server just made Libhybris in 2 minutes
 that's fast
 what are the specs @UniversalSuperBox ?
 @mariogrip could you give the details?
 Since we're just waiting on a git clone anyway. :P
 i realized i need to build a 64 bit linux for my rpi, because there is none
 so i guess for the next 2-3 days i'll be building linux from source
 64 arm64 2.8ghz cores, 124GB ram
 nice
 Uh... I think you broke it @mariogrip
 Either that or the executor has dialup
 master is running on a different machine 16core amd64
 what linux is it running?
 not sure why it takes that long to clone, network is petty nice on master
 @Xorpad, all ubuntu xenial
 built from ubuntu core?
 Woohoo!
 nope, normal ubuntu server
 arm64 ubuntu server?
 i want
 Jep
 i was gonna gentoo it
 lulz
 @mariogrip I don't think it's working right... uh oh
 Yep, that failed
 i see java errors, jenkins!
 You know it's a bad day when it fails to do a `git clone`
 And it tried so hard...
 *sadface*
 Right now Marius is trying to get it to build Mir, followed by QtMir. Mostly so that I stop bugging him about it.
 Ooh, there it goes again!
 and we are off! http://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/ubports%2Fmir/detail/xenial-7.1-caf/2/pipeline
 Ooh, it's building!!!
 oh no
 `ERROR: ld.so: object 'libeatmydata.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored. … `
 lib... eat my data?
 Disables all forms of writing data safely to disk.
 That sounds healthy
 `Failed to open the software package`
 not sure why it failed to open the tarball
 So locked down, it can't even write its own builds
 Truly the pinnacle of security
 ah i see http://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/ubports%2Fmir/detail/xenial-7.1-caf/2/pipeline/13 failed... why did you mark it green jenkin!
 is it me or is the mir repo wierd... fir fails to fetch now error: pathspec 'xenial-7.1-caf' did not match any file(s) known to git.
 this repo is imported from launchpad, maybe there is some wierd setup there
 @mariogrip would completely recommend fetching with `--depth=1` if you aren't doing the full clone for a good reason.
 @UniversalSuperBox found the issue! a damn german letter was the issue https://github.com/ubports/mir/commit/af763effce51345ddbeb1e2929efcdec43cb6de2
 @mariogrip, where is it located btw?
 and how much is it :P
 @vanyasem, usa ny, not released yet so price is not out
 pre-release hardware
 now it's even more exciting :P
 I think I figured out my problem with building halium, I was making 2 critical mistakes consistently
 So i've started over and think it will work this time
 still didin't solve my issue with ninja builds
 I'm thinking that it may have to do with the build tree building ninja with -march=native which messes thigns up ryzen because it uses znlver1 which wasn't made usable unti 7.2 gcc
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 Welcome @AhmedKhalifa_90 and Humberto
 It's just me or there is really not any vibration when you type an use the space key?
 @malditobastardo, Is there virbation on the other keys?
 Vibration in general is far too low on my fp2 ...
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 @Flohack, Hello Florian. Yes i have with my other keys. It's just when I press the space key that is missing for me
 @malditobastardo, Hmm file an issue please in ubports/keyboard-component on Github. Maybe someone can look into this
 Thanks. I just wanted to know if this is not an issue from my end only
 I'll file the issue
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 Should I have HDR mode in Nexus5 camera or is it even made yet?
 @samitormanen, Is there one in CM? Honestly, I tried HDR on E5 and its not worth, the pictures actually get just larger and blurred
[09:46] <tgBot> Grigory was added by: Grigory
 guys, for all of you who would like to do some programming (or just text editting including various system config files) on your device directly, here is an article about Geany: … http://kriscode.blogspot.tw/2017/10/geany-on-ubuntu-touch-device-as-text.html
 @samzn, Any post or blog to learn How to do this? Would be interesting for riot.im/app
 @KrisJacewicz, Yay! I love geany
 @TronFourtyTwo, I just got it work yesterday, because I wanted to use GUI text editor for editting some config files while on the move without access to desktop to ssh from
 @Flohack, I dont know. I had only stock 4.4.4 installed. Hdr is very good in N5, much better pics.
 Deep Thoughts - By Wayne (out there) … The Woodpecker … https://soundcloud.com/ubports/deep-thoughts-the-woodpecker
 Well I haven't heard of that meme in a while
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 .
 @wayneoutthere, LOL
[15:01] <tgBot> SteLomby was added by: SteLomby
 hi all!
 a big welcome to you
 I have a Samsung S4 and I want to try to install UT on it. I know there was an image for it.... can I use it, where can I find it?
 @SteLomby, No sorry, not supported
 Not in the current image version at least. You remember where you found this and when?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9505
 it's a bit outdated.... last update of the image was 12 dec 2013...
 otherwise, how can I port UT to my phone?
 @SteLomby, though question. I tried with the S3, and failed. First question is, which kernel version does it have
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/fhZVJK5g/file_1119.jpg here it is
 by the way, I'm here with Mike , we are school mate😁
 @SteLomby, Ok 3.4 sounds good, in general porting is very cumbersome for Kernels before 3.1
 and I can see there is a lineagos build available. Maybe I should buy a unit, I got some experience from S3, we could start on this together
 I have an S3 also, but it has 3.0.101 kernel...
 @SteLomby, Yeah thats what I figured out, unfortunately, we will not be able to use Halium for porting, and with the classic porting approach it boots but no GPU works
 why isn't possible using halimu
 It's not Haliums fault but Ubuntu Xenials
 The old kernels do work with vivid independent of which way of portibg you use. Xenials glibc build doesn't support this old kernels and so everything that's Xenial based won't work
 @JBBgameich, Yeah thats the better explanation
 We do not want to make anymore ports that are not compatible with 16.04
 And this really is some bad legacy in the project, we cannot upgrade old phones with newer kernels. Or lets say not always
 @SteLomby, So its not a Halium issue, but a "We want Halium + Xenial ports" issue ^^
 hey :)
 https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component
 I sent pull requests for adding turkish keyboard layout and updating azerbaijani keyboard layout
 I wonder when we can see these on our phones :D
 I saw Marius Gripsgard is actively developing the Halium 7.1 port of UBports on github currently, maybe we'll see some new devices running the xenial alpha soon.
 or how it's called, it's not even alpha I guess
 @Flohack ok. so doens't matter for the port...
 @bastos777, Same on one plus one
 What is 1+1 projekt name? Like nexus4 is mako..
 bacon
 Ok, thanks!
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/mir-release-0-28/545
[17:41] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> Proposal @website-team (whoever feels meant by this) how about adding a section on the homepage as subsejction of "community" called "community sites" or something similar and linking to blogs like that of @KrisJacewicz or others (sry to everyone not mentioned, this was just the latest entry i could think of)
 What is NOT in Mir 0.28? … We have not upstreamed Mesa distro patches … These patches support “Mir EGL” which forms part of the Mir client API. With the adoption of Wayland (and Wayland EGL) it looks likely that these will not have a long term future and upstreaming a wasted effort. … This should also become less of an issue as it only affects EGL clients using the legacy Mir client APIs. Software rendering, Xmir and Xwayland clients w
[17:41] <tgBot> these patches.
[17:42] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> Cool, nice work ☃👌😻
 so in SDL2 i just need to enable the wayland video flang and should just run on mirserver, right? @alan_griffiths
 Very nice
 @popescu_sorin, I think latest releases enable it by default
 great :D
 @popescu_sorin in theory (and very limited testing), yes. If not, then file a bug.
 cool
 @popescu_sorin could you ask that in the comments? I'll get one of my colleages to post a definitive answer there.
 @alan_griffiths, sure, done
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/BWsyyScf/file_1120
 @popescu_sorin, Amazing news!
 @demokrit atomos, received. … Considered. … On list...
 @popescu_sorin, can someone explain: … 1. Why is this great? … 2. Is this new news? … 3. How does this relate to Ubuntu Touch (if it does)?  … 4. How does it relate to convergence (if it does)?   … Plz + thx
 @wayneoutthere, plz++ … thx++ … 😄
 cool! someone else who needs this stuff explained?  ;)
 The news desk is itching for some news!
 Unfortunately I don't have the time to take a stab at it right now, but I can try in an hour or so if no one else has
 @wayneoutthere, Why is this great: one step further towards making Mir play nicely with Wayland clients. Graphical Stuff that currently can't run on ub touch might. The license is now more compatible with projects that don't like the gpl3 for its "copyleftyness". The abi is stable and stuff that's meant to work with MirAL (yunit) won't break when changes are made upstream.... The convergence link can be extrapolated from the above...
 That's my attempt... Please correct  and expand on anything I missed..
 @samzn is there any post or blog where we can see and learn How to use responsive in webapps  as you have shown?
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 Hello
 @LarreaMikel, I can write something
 Is the "Ubuntu Touch" project over?
 @developerfect, It's not finished yet. But geting better :)
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/5MWoN2u2/file_1122.jpg
 Just finished reading your post @alan_griffiths , I retract all I've said about the future of Mir
 This is fantastic wokt
[20:38] <tgBot> c1coucou2piou was added by: c1coucou2piou
 @samzn thanks!
 @samzn, would be great! :)
 I'm doing these just for fun during spare job time to quickly fill a gap but if people see value in these I can write a full stack for it
 @wayneoutthere, Since we have you distracted @alan_griffiths, maybe you could ELI5 for some people here on the Mir upgrade? :)
 @samzn, well... I'm thinking on riot.im/app
 As for now, the native matrix native client is far from the official riot app
 @LarreaMikel, Yeah. We could handle this like telegram. The native uMatriks can get mature while there is a riot webapp in parallel for full features...
 @UniversalSuperBox, Sorry, I have too much reason for bias to interpret the meaning for UT convincingly. I don't mind answering questions in the blog comments if you ask there. But this is the wrong forum for folks to find the answers.
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 One versioning question: 5.1 is vivid and 7.1 is xenial or is it about the device' kernel technique?
 In theory, either can run on either.
 In practice, only Xenial can run on both because we haven't make Vivid run on 7.1.
 7.1 is related to what?
 Android versioning
 Android 5.1 Lollipop or 7.1 Nougat
 Ah, right. So the Android backend, I understand. Thanks!
 😁