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| seb128 | xnox, hey, is bug #1721839 an upstream systemd regression you think? should it be reported there? | 08:09 |
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| ubottu | bug 1721839 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Services asked for by UDEV do not get triggered" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721839 | 08:09 |
| xnox | seb128, i am aware of that bug, but i currently do not have time to look into it, focusing on installer not working with static ips at the moment. | 08:11 |
| xnox | seb128, it smells like it, but i have not confirmed that; nor tested systemd master/v235; | 08:12 |
| seb128 | xnox, k | 08:12 |
| seb128 | so we can blame pitti right? ;-) | 08:12 |
| xnox | seb128, totes! | 08:13 |
| doko | rbasak: please could you walk over the list of ftbfs (main) for the last test rebuild and see what can to be fixed? http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/rebuilds/test-rebuild-20170922-artful.html and http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ | 08:24 |
| doko | I mean, somebody from the server team | 08:25 |
| doko | jamespage: ^^^ same for the openstack team | 08:25 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/xmFYlAoCdY1cOlu3G4Ds that's a bit cleaner network-manager.postinst in the case nplan isn't installed. | 08:29 |
| jamespage | doko: have a fix for the openvswitch s390x ftbfs which I've just uploaded - coreycb can you take a look at the neutron-* and swift failues ^^ | 11:45 |
| coreycb | jamespage: sure np | 11:45 |
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| Unit193 | ogra_: BTW, finally tested '3', it works! Not as obvious as 'text', but far better than the systemd target! | 12:11 |
| ogra_ | oh my | 12:11 |
| ogra_ | so the old "all runlevels are the same on debian" paradigm is actualy dead then | 12:12 |
| Unit193 | Perhaps overall not exactly what one hopes for, but it has a nice upside. >_> | 12:13 |
| coreycb | doko: are the rebuilds against artful-updates or is there a PPA I need to be based on? | 12:31 |
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| seb128 | bdmurray, hey, I find that the is very little rhythmbox reports on e.u.c for artful could you check if there is a retracing problem behind or if we just don't get a lot of users/reports for it? | 14:21 |
| fuser | Hello. This is how my terminal looks now: https://i.imgur.com/hJqtWi6.png | 14:50 |
| fuser | (ubuntu 17.10) | 14:50 |
| fuser | The white is the terminal background color, the thickness of the border varies when I ctrl+ and ctrl-. I really doubt this was there before, I think I would have noticed. | 14:51 |
| fuser | Ive been on 17.10 for a long time, this is new. Might be nvidia driver update? | 14:52 |
| nacc | fuser: you want #ubuntu+1 | 15:13 |
| fuser | thanks | 15:14 |
| smoser | is this table available in json | 15:31 |
| smoser | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/open-iscsi/artful/amd64 | 15:31 |
| smoser | or some thing ? | 15:31 |
| smoser | other than http scraping | 15:31 |
| smoser | nacc, ^ ? do you know ? | 15:33 |
| nacc | smoser: not that I know of | 15:33 |
| nacc | smoser: i *think* there might be a an archive tool that shows the same results | 15:34 |
| nacc | smoser: or does parse | 15:34 |
| bdmurray | seb128: Is it just rhythmbox or would apport not having been enabled in Artful for a while caused this? | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | smoser: they show up in update_excuses yaml | 15:38 |
| smoser | bdmurray, ? | 15:41 |
| smoser | i'm interested in json or something describing all the runs so that i can grab all the files and look at them, or do something other than browse | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | smoser: people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.yaml | 15:43 |
| bdmurray | smoser: that's the same content as update_excuses.html although I guess it only has failures | 15:44 |
| smoser | bdmurray, thanks. | 15:50 |
| smoser | so if i were interested in filing a feature request that i would expect would probably never get done... | 15:51 |
| smoser | where would i file ? | 15:51 |
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| seb128 | bdmurray, dunno, other applications are low, so maybe low number of users of desktop apps and apport was not working/being enabled recently | 15:53 |
| bdmurray | smoser: Oh the frontpage says SQLite database with results | 15:54 |
| smoser | bdmurray, front page ? | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/ | 16:06 |
| smoser | downloading 191M now :) | 16:16 |
| smoser | bdmurray, not that you have a real care, but i dont see in the results any artifacts or log urls. | 16:38 |
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| jackpot51 | GRUB no longer builds on artful | 18:05 |
| cjwatson | jackpot51: that comment would be most helpful if it came with an indication of exactly which version of the GRUB source code were involved and a pastebin of the error | 18:20 |
| cjwatson | you must have that information so don't make other people guess :) | 18:20 |
| jackpot51 | Don't worry, I already have a patch to fix it. Newest version in artful doesn't build due to errors such as the one seen at the end of this log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/340649401/buildlog_ubuntu-artful-amd64.grub2_2.02~beta3-4ubuntu6pop0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 18:21 |
| jackpot51 | Just want to get your attention | 18:21 |
| jackpot51 | I will make a launchpad bug with the patch attached | 18:22 |
| cjwatson | that's already fixed upstream too | 18:22 |
| cjwatson | and in Debian | 18:22 |
| jackpot51 | Oh, then just need to wait on the sync | 18:22 |
| cjwatson | well it's probably a complicated merge | 18:22 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox mentioned this to me a couple of weeks ago so I assumed they were going to cherry-pick it ... | 18:23 |
| jackpot51 | Is there a launchpad bug? | 18:23 |
| cjwatson | dunno | 18:23 |
| cjwatson | the upstream commit is 07662af7aed55bcec448bc2a6610de1f0cb62100 | 18:23 |
| cjwatson | https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/commit/?id=07662af7aed55bcec448bc2a6610de1f0cb62100, more helpfully | 18:24 |
| seb128 | slangasek, xnox, do you know if there are plan to enable systemd persistant journal for next cycle? | 18:27 |
| slangasek | seb128: hi, so we have the persistent journal on our "ideas" for 18.04 roadmap; we haven't committed to it, and it's my position that we shouldn't enable persistent journal by default unless we also disable syslog to disk by default | 18:55 |
| slangasek | seb128: which makes it a bit more controversial, and requires us to think it through carefully and discuss widely before taking a decision. Is there a push to enable it from the desktop side, and if so what is that? | 18:56 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu 17.10's default log viewer is now gnome-logs instead of gnome-system-log, gnome-logs is systemd journal only | 19:01 |
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| mwhudson | it would sure be nice if autopkgtest-virt-qemu actually worked :( | 19:09 |
| cyphermox | jackpot51: I sponsored grub2 for tdaitx earlier | 19:48 |
| cyphermox | cjwatson: ^ | 19:48 |
| cyphermox | I was waiting for a grub2-signed, but I guess I should stop waiting and just do it now | 19:48 |
| tdaitx | cyphermox, sorry, I didn't realize you needed it that soon | 19:49 |
| tdaitx | I was working on the openjdk security updates | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | tdaitx: it should be uploaded with grub2, since otherwise it will stick in proposed | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | tdaitx: don't worry about it, I'll do it now | 19:50 |
| cyphermox | it's tiny | 19:50 |
| tdaitx | cyphermox, ack, I can stop and do it now as well, as aiming for EOD | 19:50 |
| tdaitx | *was | 19:50 |
| cyphermox | bah, don't worry about it | 19:50 |
| tdaitx | ok, tks cyphermox | 19:52 |
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| juliank | oh, I already he apt SRUs are already 13 days in the queue and I have not verified them. Slow /me - time is moving to fast, aargh | 19:56 |
| juliank | I kind of write scripts and run them with sh -x in a docker container for validating things and then add the output to the bug as a comment :D | 20:00 |
| juliank | with before/after comparisons :D | 20:00 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox: ta | 20:07 |
| jackpot51 | Thanks cyphermox | 22:37 |
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| xnox | jbicha, slangasek - most of our images have systemd journal enabled. | 23:42 |
| xnox | slangasek, i was going to enable rsyslog precise journald plugin such that journald logs are in syslog, with matching identical timestamps, and do nanotimestamps by default. | 23:43 |
| sarnold | _persistent_ journal? or just journal? | 23:43 |
| xnox | slangasek, if we are going to break people, i'd rather do it for the good. E.g. making syslog timestamps precise will break most people's logrotate/logwatch | 23:43 |
| xnox | sarnold, currently we have journald set at auto -> which means it logs to /run/log, unless /var/log/journal exists. If /var/log/journal exists, it rotates early-boot logs from /run/log to /var/log/journal and then keeps logging on disk. | 23:44 |
| xnox | sarnold, we are discussing enabling it by default, meaning that /var/log/journal exists. It auto-rotates, compresses, and garbagge collects on both /run and /var/log such that it never uses "too much" of ram and/or disk space. | 23:45 |
| sarnold | aha, so it's 'yes except no one knows how to enable it' :) | 23:45 |
| sarnold | xnox: thanks | 23:45 |
| xnox | sarnold, yes, and journal thus is only available for the current boot, and after reboot past boots are gone. | 23:46 |
| xnox | sarnold, sucks for debugging and kernel lock ups and oopses and history or services crashing restarting. | 23:46 |
| xnox | sarnold, or on my systems i get something like less than than 2 weeks of logs, as my VPS does not have much RAM. | 23:46 |
| xnox | sarnold, many of our cloud images have /var/log/journal enabled. | 23:46 |
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