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[06:41] <mwhudson> apw: hmm?
[06:41]  * mwhudson is not here
[07:16] <apw> mwhudson, i was commenting that the docker.io package seems to be in a lot of a mess, not working wise
[07:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (artful-proposed/main) [1.15.2-1ubuntu3 => 1.15.3-2ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[07:21] <tjaalton> ^ is a bugfix release, and fixes a CVE released yesterday
[07:21] <tjaalton> does add a new package too (sssd-kcm)
[07:23] <sil2100> A bit lateish!
[07:23] <tjaalton> a bit
[07:24] <tjaalton> but saves an sru (1.15.3)
[07:28] <tjaalton> 1.15.3 has been in debian since late july though
[07:46] <Saviq> sil2100: good morning, would you have time to help us process bug #1722292? packages are to be copied from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/2988/+packages and there's two removals to get through (see Laney's comment on the bug)
[07:54] <sil2100> Saviq: hey! I can certainly sync the packages from the silo to the archive, but for the AA bits you'll have to find someone else - I'm not trained yet to do NEW/removal reviews
[07:54] <Saviq> sil2100: ack, congrats on your membership, btw :)
[07:55] <apw> sil2100, i can have a look at that
[07:55] <Saviq> please do whatever you can, and I'll bug others next
[07:55] <Saviq> apw: thanks
[07:56] <sil2100> apw: should I still copy the packages over to the archive, or you want to sync those?
[07:57] <sil2100> (for ease of review, here's the content diff: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-2988/2017-10-11_15:07:13/artful_mir_content.diff )
[08:00] <apw> sil2100, i may as well do it as i will want to review it before i hit the publish button
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnupg2 (artful-proposed/main) [2.1.15-1ubuntu7 => 2.1.15-1ubuntu8] (core)
[08:07] <xnox> slangasek, could you please create artful-updates milestone?
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libcap2 (artful-proposed/main) [1:2.25-1 => 1:2.25-1.1] (core) (sync)
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: parted (artful-proposed/main) [3.2-17ubuntu1 => 3.2-18] (core) (sync)
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[08:10] <sil2100> xnox: I can try doing that
[08:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted etl [sync] (artful-proposed) [0.04.19-1.1]
[08:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnupg2 [source] (artful-proposed) [2.1.15-1ubuntu8]
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[08:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libcap2 [sync] (artful-proposed) [1:2.25-1.1]
[08:12] <xnox> sil2100, if you have powers, yes please =)
[08:12] <sil2100> I should have the power hm, but I don't see the button for this
[08:13] <apw> Saviq, this new mir upload carries libmiral2, which used to be carried by miral, why does it not need a breaks/replaces
[08:14] <apw> Saviq, for upgraders
[08:17] <LocutusOfBorg> somebody please update virtualbox hint :)
[08:19] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, reviewed and updated
[08:20] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-themes (artful-proposed/main) [16.10+17.10.20171003-0ubuntu1 => 16.10+17.10.20171012.1-0ubuntu1] (core) (sync)
[08:22] <didrocks> apw: sil2100: those are some theme fixes from Trevinho FYI. They don't really impact any screenshot at the core (and anyway, we don't have documentation on desktop before 18.04 from what Gunnahr told) ^
[08:28] <sil2100> didrocks: let me take a look
[08:30] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, so you confirmed that this doesn't impact the docs then
[08:30] <didrocks> sil2100: indeed, it doesn't
[08:31] <didrocks> and I made a lot of feedback for Trevinho when reviewing during the last week, ask him :p
[08:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-themes [sync] (artful-proposed) [16.10+17.10.20171012.1-0ubuntu1]
[08:32] <didrocks> thanks sil2100 :)
[08:34] <infinity> sil2100: You don't have the powers to do that, no.
[08:35] <infinity> xnox: Milestone created.
[08:35] <sil2100> infinity: oh, thought ubuntu-release is enough as they're the drivers - thanks!
[08:39] <infinity> apw: What would it breaks/replaces?  Itself?
[08:41] <Saviq> apw: it's a straight upgrade
[08:41] <Saviq> just the source package changed
[08:41] <infinity> Saviq: Yeah, that's what I was getting at above. ;)
[08:41] <Saviq> yup
[08:41] <infinity> Saviq: And you caught the thing I would have yelled at you about (the version going backwards), so yay.
[08:42] <Saviq> note the binary version produced for libmiral2 is extracted from CMakeLists.txt, so it will be different to the source package version (thanks xnox!)
[08:42] <Saviq> apw: ↑
[08:44] <infinity> It is, of course, monumentally difficult to "review" the merging of two source packages.
[08:48] <xnox> care was taken in generating binary packages version numbers to be incremental, unique, and ahead of the other source package which is being taken over.
[08:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: starjava-ttools (artful-proposed/universe) [3.1-2 => 3.1.1-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted starjava-ttools [sync] (artful-proposed) [3.1.1-2]
[09:00] <apw> infinity, a good point, derp ok
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[11:21] <popey> Hello! Is it expected that a clean 16.04 install will offer an upgrade to 17.04? (I thought we only offered LTS to LTS by default)
[11:22] <popey> (I just did a clean 16.04 install and mid way through a dist upgrade I got an "Ubuntu 17.04 Upgrade Available" popup)
[11:23] <popey> (this was a 16.04 LTS install, not a 16.04.X install)
[11:28] <ddstreet> sil2100 if you have a chance, can you approve the initramfs-tools upload for trusty, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=initramfs-tools
[11:28] <seb128> popey, if you go in software-properties, 3rd tab, what choice is selected in the bottom combo?
[11:29] <popey> will check in a bit. its mid-dist-upgrade so lots of things are broken (can't take screenshots, dialogs are empty)
[11:38] <popey> seb128: it says "For any new version" which I found surprising!
[11:39] <seb128> yeah
[11:40] <seb128> you are sure you didn't tweak that setting?
[11:40] <popey> bear in mind this was an original 16.04 iso, not a point release I installed from, if that matters
[11:40] <popey> it was a clean install an hour ago
[11:40] <popey> literally the only thing i have done is login and dist-upgrade
[11:41] <popey> its not even a very nice dialog. It's not the one that lists release notes and stuff, just a box with 3 buttons
[11:43] <popey> https://imgur.com/a/KCuui
[11:44] <seb128> popey, can you xprop it?
[11:44] <seb128> that looks a bit like a fallback notification for notifications with actions
[11:45] <popey> sadly not, had to reboot
[11:45] <popey> will xprop if it pops up again
[11:45] <seb128> popey, on a 16.04.3 livecd the parameter is "check for LTS only", but that's .3 and not the install result
[11:46] <seb128> popey, in any case it's probably one of bdmurray when he gets up
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openvswitch (artful-proposed/main) [2.8.0-0ubuntu1 => 2.8.1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[11:46] <seb128> but it does sound weird indeed
[11:46] <popey> kk
[11:46] <seb128> the setting should be LTS only
[11:46] <popey> agreed
[11:46] <jamespage> hi release team - the openvswitch upload I just made ^^ includes a new point release and a fix/skip for the ftbfs on s390x
[11:47] <jamespage> I've tested the update with openstack per normal SRU update guidelines
[11:48] <seb128> popey, https://protechgurus.com/upgrade-ubuntu-16-04-ubuntu-16-10-ubuntu-17-04/ suggests that the UI you got in the normal one, you should get the proper upgrader when clicking "yes, upgrade now"
[11:48] <seb128> popey, so your issue is that the setting is on the wrong value
[11:50] <popey> not sure how much of an issue this is 18 months later given we no longer offer 16.04 (non point) ISOs for download
[12:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nspr (artful-proposed/main) [2:4.16-1ubuntu1 => 2:4.16-1ubuntu2] (core)
[12:07] <LocutusOfBorg> [ubuntu/artful] llvm-toolchain-3.8 1:3.8.1-24ubuntu7 (Accepted) 13.39
[12:07] <LocutusOfBorg> [proposed-migration] llvm-toolchain-3.8 1:3.8.1-24ubuntu7 stuck in artful-proposed for 17 days. 13.54
[12:07] <LocutusOfBorg> so, I got the "stuck in artful-proposed" email 15 minutes after the package migration
[12:23] <apw> mad
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: 389-ds-base (artful-proposed/universe) [1.3.6.7-5 => 1.3.7.5-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted 389-ds-base [sync] (artful-proposed) [1.3.7.5-1]
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[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-getting-started-docs (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.0-0ubuntu1 => 3.26.1-0ubuntu1] (personal-gunnarhj, ubuntu-desktop)
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[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netcfg [source] (artful-proposed) [1.142ubuntu5]
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.103ubuntu4.9]
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[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xorg (artful-proposed/main) [1:7.7+19ubuntu2 => 1:7.7+19ubuntu3] (core, xorg)
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-getting-started-docs [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-user-docs [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nspr [source] (artful-proposed) [2:4.16-1ubuntu2]
[14:37] <sil2100> jbicha: hey, you saw the software-properties ADT failures for gtk+3.0 ?
[14:37] <sil2100> jbicha: looks like it's failing on amd64 and i386 only for this package
[14:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-calculator (artful-proposed/main) [1:3.25.91-0ubuntu2 => 1:3.25.92-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:40] <bdmurray> popey: what does /var/lib/installer/media-info say?
[14:40] <jbicha> sil2100: I saw but I probably won't be able to work on software-properties today
[14:41] <popey> bdmurray: that doesn't exist
[14:41] <popey> oh, you mean /var/log ;)
[14:42] <popey> bdmurray: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Alpha amd64 (20160307)
[14:42] <bdmurray> popey: so that's nots the final image is it?
[14:43] <popey> huh, wow, this is an old usb stick then!
[14:43] <popey> sorry to bother you
[14:43] <bdmurray> popey: no problem
[14:44] <sil2100> Damn, we'd like to get that migrating somehow
[14:44] <sil2100> Let me try looking at that
[14:45] <jbicha> sil2100: if you're still talking about software-properties, we could ask bdmurray if he has time today since he's been doing recent uploads for it
[14:45] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1721828
[14:46] <sil2100> Laney: oh, so it's on your plate then!
[14:46] <sil2100> Thanks
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-settings-daemon (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-0ubuntu3 => 3.26.1-0ubuntu4] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-screenshot (artful-proposed/main) [3.25.0-0ubuntu1 => 3.25.0-0ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfcpdump-kernel (artful-proposed/universe) [4.9-0ubuntu2 => 4.13-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfcpdump-kernel [source] (artful-proposed) [4.13-0ubuntu1]
[14:59] <sil2100> willcooke: just reminding, be sure to keep the artful release notes up to date with latest desktop goodies
[14:59] <xnox> sil2100, apw: please reject systemd from artful queue, i believe i want to redo it.
[14:59] <sil2100> xnox: ACK
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected systemd [source] (artful-proposed) [234-2ubuntu13]
[15:02] <sil2100> jbicha: as for gnome-calculator - this doesn't change/add/remove any translatable strings, right?
[15:05] <jbicha> sil2100: correct
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (artful-proposed/main) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu6 => 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7] (core)
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-calculator [source] (artful-proposed) [1:3.25.92-0ubuntu1]
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[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer-utils [source] (artful-proposed) [1.113ubuntu2]
[16:06] <sil2100> cyphermox: hey, could you take a look at LP: #1713696 ? Seems like people are seeing this issue on our images
[16:09] <bdmurray> balloons: Can you add some verification details to bug 1699354?
[16:09] <balloons> bdmurray, sure
[16:10] <jbicha> sil2100: that may be a dupe of LP: #966480, it's been an issue for a looong time
[16:19] <cyphermox> sil2100: sure. I'll finish lunch and then take care of it :)
[16:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.0~bzr532-0ubuntu1~17.04.1]
[16:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.1.0~bzr532-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[16:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libseccomp [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.3.1-2.1ubuntu2~17.04.1]
[16:32] <sil2100> jbicha: strangely, for final beta I remember seeing the prompt when testing ubuntustudio
[16:32] <sil2100> But yeah
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted console-setup [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.108ubuntu15.4]
[17:05] <bdmurray> xnox: your livecd-rootfs upload in the Xenial SRU queue has no bug number?
[17:13] <xnox> bdmurray, it is a fix up or a regression introduced in the previous entry
[17:13] <xnox> bdmurray, i did build it with correct -v
[17:13] <xnox> previous entry was still in unapproved when we noticed a bug
[17:14] <slangasek> xnox: if it was never accepted into -proposed, you are allowed to recycle version numbers, fwiw
[17:17] <bdmurray> Yeah, I think that would have been cleaner.
[17:49] <infinity> slangasek: It's totally "allowed" to reuse rejected versions, but in a world where we'd like to move to mechanisms like "build from tags" before the UNIX epoch, it might be worth reconsidering best practices.  Moving a published tag is a big VCS no-no.
[17:50] <infinity> (As such, I have no issues with an upload having two or three versions in .changes)
[17:52] <dannf> infinity, slangasek : this *should* be ready to go - mind giving it a review (and possible merge) when you get a minute? https://code.launchpad.net/~dannf/debian-cd/lp1692876/+merge/331671
[17:54] <infinity> dannf: I think I need to catch up on all of Thomas's input, but will have a look.
[17:54] <dannf> infinity: thx
[18:04] <infinity> dannf: Didn't the original MP uncomment some bits that I'd commented?  Is that no longer necessary after the back-and-forth?
[18:06] <infinity> dannf: The redundant grub bit.
[18:06] <dannf> infinity: the original was just a revert of r1945
[18:07] <infinity> dannf: Indeed.  So that bit was indeed redundant?
[18:09] <dannf> infinity: appears to be, yes. i'm not sure why we'd want that
[18:10] <infinity> dannf: I'm skeptical about this in general, even after reading the comment history.  Do we have hardware we can actually test this on once we spin up a test?
[18:10] <dannf> infinity: yes. i've tested the iso i could build on hardware. though, both usb and cd in that case are emulated from the bmc, so i didn't actually burn anything
[18:10] <infinity> (Not skeptical due to any concerns of competence, but just because xorriso's CLI is about as intuitive as eating a hamburger with a whisk)
[18:11] <infinity> dannf: Kay.  I don't particularly care if it's real hardware or BMC, more that it's a platform that exposes the previous issue.
[18:11] <dannf> i wasn't able to figure out how to build a real ubuntu-server iso though, so i'll do that once there's a daily (or a pre-daily test or whatever)
[18:12] <dannf> infinity: it is - same system the reporter was using
[18:12] <dannf> s/system/system model
[18:12] <infinity> dannf: Also, would be nice to keep the options from debian-cd and d-i mini.iso in sync (and the latter is a much easier guinea pig for rapid iteration and testing)
[18:12] <infinity> Though, d-i has the advantage of building with a more current xorriso, so still not a definitive test.
[18:14] <dannf> infinity: *nod* - i can do an MP for d-i as well, but yeah - i'll probably do point el torito at the appended partition, so will be different
[18:39] <infinity> jbicha: libsoup2.4 2.56.1 -> 2.60 seems like an ambitious sync right before final freeze.
[18:40] <infinity> jbicha: Do you have a (good) rationale for it?
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (artful-proposed) [1:2.10+dfsg-0ubuntu2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xinit [source] (artful-proposed) [1.3.4-3ubuntu2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg [source] (artful-proposed) [1:7.7+19ubuntu3]
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (artful-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7]
[18:54] <infinity> jbicha: Alright, I went through the diff, and it's almost entirely bugfixes (and a violent removal of the msvcc build system), so maaaybe it's okay.  Still a large delta to land.
[18:54] <jbicha> infinity: there's some information in LP: #1717216
[18:56] <infinity> jbicha: I wish the 2.60 sync had happened back when that bug was debated.  The .1 bump would have been a no-brainer.
[18:56] <infinity> But... Here we go.
[18:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libsoup2.4 [sync] (artful-proposed) [2.60.1-1]
[18:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted open-iscsi [source] (artful-proposed) [2.0.874-4ubuntu3]
[18:59] <infinity> jamespage: I assume that SKIP_TEST is Really Poorly Named in openvswitch, and it's actually RUN_TEST?
[19:01]  * sil2100 was reluctant to accept too many things so late
[19:01] <infinity> jamespage: And how much investigation went into that s390x test disabling to determine it was an okay thing to do?
[19:03] <infinity> jamespage: ie, is it definitely an "our infra is weird and I can't reproduce it on another s390x host" bug, or a "this only happens in lxd, meh" bug, or could it be an "s390x is our only big-endian arch and someone can't do math, leaving a dangling refcount" bug?
[19:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (artful-proposed/main) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7 => 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7] (core)
[19:20] <jbicha> infinity: are you sprinting this week?
[19:20] <infinity> jbicha: Virtually, but not physically.
[19:21] <jbicha> no ubuflu for you then? ;)
[19:21] <infinity> jbicha: I'm sure I can go find a nerd to kiss to approximate the thrill.
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (artful-proposed/main) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7 => 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7] (core)
[19:22] <infinity> tdaitx: Is there a grub2-signed upload coming to match that grub2, or should I bang one out?
[19:22] <jbicha> wow, Ubuntu conferences have gotten more exciting since the last time I attended
[19:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7]
[19:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (artful-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7]
[19:23] <jbicha> sometime I'd like to discuss what we want to do for LP: #1710318
[19:23] <infinity> jbicha: I'd like webkit1 to die in a fire.  I'm guessing there wasn't as much movement as we'd hoped while I was indisposed?
[19:24] <jbicha> webkit1 is nearly removed from Debian Testing
[19:24] <jbicha> I believe slangasek still uses gnucash so maybe we don't want to remove it from 17.10 now?
[19:25] <infinity> jbicha: Yeah, gnucash is used by many, AFAIK.
[19:25] <jbicha> gnucash upstream aims to have at least a beta without webkit1 later this year
[19:25] <infinity> jbicha: I'd consider fixing gnucash a hard requirement here.
[19:25] <jbicha> so the question for 17.10 is whether we should remove some of the less-used stuff now
[19:26] <infinity> jbicha: Also, as much as I despise wk1 (and many old versions of crap libraries that we ship multiples of, wk isn't alone), comitting to a 9mo release (or another 6mo on top of the last) isn't world-ending.  I think it's in all our best interest to punt it out before we carry it for 5 years in 18.04, though.
[19:29] <jbicha> if we don't mind having gnucash temporarily removed from blushing bonobo, we could kill webkit1 as soon as 18.04 opens in my opinion
[19:29] <jbicha> that ways devs and users for those apps should have plenty of warning and shouldn't be too surprised
[19:31] <jbicha> there's a few on that bug that might be easy removals now: bibledit-gtk (duplicate of bibledit), blam, webkit-sharp
[19:35] <jamespage> infinity: yes you are quite correct
[19:36] <infinity> jbicha: I've been calling it Boris Bikes.
[19:37] <infinity> I guess that should just be Boris Bike, as the animal is never plural.
[19:37] <infinity> jamespage: Assuming that response was about the badly-named variable.  Didn't really cover the next bits. :)
[19:37] <jbicha> not so sure that's an animal…
[19:37] <jamespage> infinity: yes - you mentioned LXD ?
[19:38] <infinity> jamespage: Well, I mentioned all sorts of things.  It was a multiple choice question.
[19:38] <jamespage> did we just start doing something different with s390x for archive builds
[19:38] <infinity> jamespage: I guess what I want to know is if you *know* this is only a build-time issue.
[19:38] <jamespage> infinity: I don't
[19:38] <jamespage> leave it with me
[19:39] <infinity> jamespage: Kay, I'll reject it for now.  We can resurrect from the rejected queue if you come back with interesting info.
[19:39] <jamespage> okies
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected openvswitch [source] (artful-proposed) [2.8.1-0ubuntu1]
[19:56] <tdaitx> infinity, cyphermox is working on grub2-signed right now, I was leaving if for EOD (failed to realize it was actually blocking grub2)
[19:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2-signed (artful-proposed/main) [1.84 => 1.85] (core)
[19:58] <cyphermox> infinity: ^ your grub2-signed, sir
[20:01] <infinity> cyphermox: Ta.
[20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdenlive (artful-proposed/universe) [4:17.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:17.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[20:27] <sil2100> o/
[20:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.14]
[20:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.66.14]
[20:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (xenial-proposed/main) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.13 => 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.14] (core)
[20:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux (artful-proposed/main) [4.13.0-16.19 => 4.13.0-16.20] (core, kernel)
[20:51] <LocutusOfBorg> please reject the kernel apw
[20:51] <LocutusOfBorg> damn, I'm testing vbox, it got rejected twice in the ppa, not sure how I missed the target suite
[20:51] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, ack
[20:51] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (zesty-proposed) [17.1-17-g45d361cb-0ubuntu1~17.04.1]
[20:51] <LocutusOfBorg> damn sorry
[20:52] <LocutusOfBorg> at least can you look at the diff? it should be fixing vbox :)
[20:52] <LocutusOfBorg> soooo at the end I'll probably ask you to merge it :p, but only after a deep test on my side
[20:52]  * LocutusOfBorg goes back to sleep
[20:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected linux [source] (artful-proposed) [4.13.0-16.20]
[20:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (xenial-proposed/main) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.13 => 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.14] (core)
[20:54] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[20:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (zesty-proposed) [17.1-18-gd4f70470-0ubuntu1~17.04.1]
[20:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debian-installer (artful-proposed/main) [20101020ubuntu522 => 20101020ubuntu523] (core)
[20:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [17.1-17-g45d361cb-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[21:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (artful-proposed) [1.85]
[21:01] <infinity> apw: A little trigger-happy on that d-i upload. :)
[21:01] <apw> i figured it can sit in the queue
[21:01] <infinity> Indeed it can.
[21:01] <infinity> And it shall.
[21:01] <apw> as i had prepped it
[21:02] <apw> infinity, feel free to drop it into rejected if that is safer
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdenlive [source] (artful-proposed) [4:17.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed/main) [4.13.0-16.19] (core, kernel)
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed) [4.13.0-16.19]
[21:03] <infinity> apw: Were you hammering refresh on the queue every 2s? :P
[21:04] <apw> infinity, heh no, just lucky
[21:04] <apw> you know how it is when you want to go to sleep, and you are waiting on something
[21:04] <infinity> apw: Slipped it in about 5s before the cutoff for the publisher too.  You're having a good day.
[21:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [17.1-18-gd4f70470-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[21:05] <apw> infinity, that will be the first time ever i got lucky with the publisher
[21:05] <infinity> apw: She's fickle, but worth the effort.
[21:06] <apw> :) what a though
[21:06] <apw> t
[21:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (artful-proposed) [20101020ubuntu523]
[21:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: fscrypt (artful-proposed/primary) [0.2.2-0ubuntu1]
[22:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (artful-proposed/universe) [1.13.1-0ubuntu5 => 1.13.1-0ubuntu6] (no packageset)
[22:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (artful-proposed) [1.13.1-0ubuntu6]
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: 6782 entries have been added or removed