[00:59] <arooni> anyone have a logitech mouse?  i'm having trouble getting it configured on ubuntu (getting extra buttons working)
[01:06] <arooni> any good audiobook player?
[01:07] <fishcooker> thankyou ducasse for clipit
[02:04] <Travankor> has anyone got detached luks header to work?
[02:04] <Travankor> im stuck at the initramfs busybox
[02:16] <Minor723> I downloaded 2 different .deb files. One is Plex and the other is teamviewer. On both when i open it and click install it does nothing. What can I do
[02:18] <[n0mad]> sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb
[02:19] <Minor723> Why does the install button not work?
[02:20] <[n0mad]> not sure..sometimes mine seems to not want to install just by opening the .deb as well
[02:20] <[n0mad]> when it doesn't work i just use the command line
[02:20] <[n0mad]> never bothered to see if i could find a solution
[02:21] <Minor723> plex installed teamviewer encountered errors
[02:24] <Minor723> Can i pipe this output to paste somehow
[02:25] <RooSalad> Holy cow I managed to remember how to use IRC to get here.
[02:26] <Minor723> n0mad Can you help me with dependency issues
[02:26] <RooSalad> I need help! COMPLETELY new to Linux (Ubuntu), trying to figure out how to set up a seperate drive for program installations, and how to set up another seperate drive for Steam Games
[02:27] <Travankor> gparted
[02:28] <Bashing-om> RooSalad: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive .
[02:28] <RooSalad> Bashing-om: Thanks
[02:28] <subdavis> RooSalad: recommend making drive changes from a live disk or live USB.  You can use GParted or the built in utilities.  You'll also want to mount them when you boot, so google /etc/fstab.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> RooSalad: We are here to help you over the rough spots .:)
[02:29] <Minor723> Can you help me with dependency issues installing teamviewer
[02:29] <Minor723> unless you reccomend a better program to remotly manage my linux free
[02:31] <subdavis> I would probably opt for https://www.vpn.net/ - Logmein Hamachi
[02:32] <Minor723> can ubuntu use rom files
[02:32] <Minor723> rpm*
[02:32] <Minor723> This software installer does not work for anything :(
[02:34] <subdavis> Minor723: you must convert rpms to .deb files.  There should always be a .deb option offered, or a ppa to install from.  Could you paste the output from the installer?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Minor723: Not easily - RPM is Redhat package management . We use apt .
[02:35] <Minor723> subdavis, https://pastebin.com/m01qhKEn
[02:36] <Minor723> ok i was only asking because the software installer does not work
[02:36] <Minor723> i click install and it does nothing
[02:36] <subdavis> Bashing-om: Apt is a package manager, not a binary type.  Ubuntu uses .deb (or debian) type binaries.  yum is CentOS/RHEL's package manager.
[02:37] <subdavis> I'll echo [n0mad] above: open a terminal and try to `sudo dpkg -i /path/to/installer.deb`
[02:37] <Minor723> Thats what i ran
[02:37] <Minor723> YOu can see it in my paste
[02:37] <subdavis> Ah sorry, let me inspect that log.
[02:38] <Minor723> Seems to be the only way i can install software
[02:39] <subdavis> It's possible that you need to update your package system.   Especially if this is a new install.  Read the thread on https://askubuntu.com/questions/252777/how-can-i-resolve-dpkg-dependency
[02:39] <Minor723> yes this is a new install i will look at that
[02:39] <Bashing-om> Minor723: " This deb package requires many dependency packages. Manually finding and installing dependency packages is a tedious task. We can use the gdebi package installer to automatically handle all required dependencies for us." from: https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-teamviewer-12-ubuntu-16-04-ubuntu-16-10 .
[02:42] <captain_morgan> can anyone suggest what would cause me to loose right click on the titlebar?
[02:42] <captain_morgan> Context menu is missing
[02:45] <Minor723> After hamachi is installed where does it goI cant find it?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> !info hamachi xenial
[02:48] <subdavis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Hamachi - if you're new to ubuntu, may I recommend the GUI version.
[02:49] <Minor723> haha thats what i thought iwas getting yes i need gui
[02:49] <Minor723> How do i remove the non gui version i installed
[02:52] <subdavis> I'm not sure how you installed it (or what the package is called).  Try `apt list --installed | grep hamachi`
[03:33] <Goop> I was wondering if there is a way for my system to have scheduled downtime. Like, my system would shut off, and then the motherboard would turn on the system half an hour later. I was just wondering if that was a thing.
[03:35] <Random832> Goop, what for?
[03:35] <FrostyBytes> Goop: that can be done on some hardware.
[03:36] <FrostyBytes> obviously there is no fully general way to do that short of a microprocessor controlled power outlet
[03:36] <Goop> So after a while of uptime on my desktop machine, the machine starts to get a little buggy and gets a little slow. My guess is that is needs system reboots/a little bit of downtime, because I leave it turned on all the time. So I was wondering if I could schedule my system to be turned off between 2AM 2:30AM when I am asleep.
[03:37] <Random832> Goop, is there a reason you need it to be down for half an hour rather than just rebooting it?
[03:37] <Random832> a reboot is *much* easier than what you're asking for.
[03:37] <Goop> Random832, eh. Not sure.
[03:38] <Random832> it looks like rtcwake supports scheduling a wakeup from shutdown if your system supports it, or you could have another device on the network (some routers can do this) send a wake on lan packet
[03:39] <Random832> but honestly i'd just see if a reboot is enough first
[03:39] <Ben64> seems like the real solution would be to figure out the problem rather than work around it
[03:39] <Random832> that too
[03:40] <Ben64>  20:39:59 up 86 days, 15 min, 12 users,  load average: 2.25, 2.37, 2.36
[03:40] <FrostyBytes> the reason this feature is poorly supported is because it doesn't make almost any sense. just reboot. what does it benefit you to have your system off for 1/2hr?
[03:40] <Ben64> desktop doing fine over here
[03:40] <Goop> Random832, maybe I don't need half an hour downtime, I'll just schedule reboots at 2AM every day. Every time I use "sudo reboot", programs like Google Chrome don't shut down properly. Is there a way to send some sort of "gentle" shutdown signal to the system?
[03:41] <FrostyBytes> google chrome couldn't care less if you yank the power cord out of the wall socket
[03:41] <FrostyBytes> proper shutdown only really matters if you are running mysql databases or something like that
[03:42] <FrostyBytes> sudo reboot should usually shut things down in an orderly fashion though
[03:42] <Random832> the fact that chrome offers to restore your session doesn't mean it was actually harmed, for the record
[03:42] <Random832> for that matter, the fact that it can means it's specifically designed to be fine
[03:43] <Goop> FrostyBytes, what's the way to "proper[ly]" shutdown a Ubuntu system from command line?
[03:43] <FrostyBytes> the reason google chrome is not shut down cleanly is because it's not a service managed by init (systemd)
[03:44] <FrostyBytes> sudo reboot or sudo halt
[03:45] <Random832> FrostyBytes, init sends every process SIGTERM, that should be enough to let it shut down cleanly enough if it cares.
[03:46] <Random832> I do wonder if there's some command line incantation to use polkit or whatever to do the same kind of shutdown you'd get from the desktop environment menu, which IIRC allows programs with unsaved data to stop the shutdown
[03:47] <Goop> So, to schedule system reboots, I would have to use root's crontab, right? How do I do that? I'm new to crontab.
[03:49] <jerichowasahoax> Random832: i have a regular sleep schedule and keep my computer in my bedroom, downtime like the original question describes wouldn't be bizarre for me
[03:49] <jerichowasahoax> it would be for more like 8 hours instead of half of one, but
[03:50] <Random832> jerichowasahoax, well, the next question for that scenario would be "why not bring it back up manually"
[03:50] <Random832> especially since that's the hard part
[03:52] <jerichowasahoax> Random832: i had to disconnect my power button from my motherboard because i haven't gotten around to cleaning it yet, but i admit that's a less common problem
[03:53] <jerichowasahoax> a better argument would be convenience: sure, i *could* just push the power button. but what if it did that for me when i got out of bed in the morning?
[03:58] <jerichowasahoax> anyway, most recent motherboards should have support for scheduled wakes in some form or another - microsoft has been making a big deal about it for windows update for ages
[04:04] <jamisnemo> Do any of the official Ubuntu releases use Wayland out of the box?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> jamisnemo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/ubuntu-confirm-wayland-default-17-10 .
[04:20] <jamisnemo> Bashing-om, Ah. thanks. That helps!
[04:21] <Bashing-om> jamisnemo: :)
[04:22] <jamisnemo> Now if only NVidia, AMD, HTC, and Oculus would play nice and work together on a Wayland VR compositor. :dreams:
[04:36] <Doc-Saintly> and it's about time Unity was taken out back and beaten... I hope the people who forced it as the UI were dealth with in the same manner.
[04:36] <Doc-Saintly> s/dealth/dealt
[04:42] <Changuar> lol
[04:42] <Changuar> poor unity nobody loves it
[04:42] <Changuar> the little ui that could(n't)
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:41] <mbuf> sudo apt-get update is hanging at "in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe Translate-en" for about half an hour; any suggestions on what I should do?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> mbuf: join #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps there are known issues for your countrys repo
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> mbuf: when did this start to happen?
[05:44] <mbuf> lotuspsychje, I noticed it a day ago
[05:45] <mbuf> lotuspsychje, should I use a different mirror?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> mbuf: yeah thats a thing you could try as a test
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> mbuf: your in good hands in mirrors, idle until they notice you ok
[05:50] <system16> i tried ubuntu ... it is a fun OS but i had some problems
[05:51] <system16> 1-looks like nvidia doesnt support linux
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> details | system16
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !details
[05:51] <system16> 2-system error detected . (it doesnt give ANY kind of info )
[05:51] <system16> VGA: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT
[05:52] <system16> btw i used live-usb
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> system16: ubuntu does support nvidia, 2 errors on ubuntu do give usefull info
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> system16: wich ubuntu did you try?
[05:52] <system16> well there was 1 option : send error info to ubuntu (some thing like that)
[05:53] <system16> 16.04
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> system16: wich iso .2 or >.3?
[05:53] <system16> what do u mean ?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> system16: wich iso did you download from ubuntu.com, and when?
[05:54] <fooperman> There's usually crash reports in /var/crash/
[05:54] <system16> last night... u mean the mirror ?
[05:54] <system16> i have the file
[05:54] <hateball> system16: And for nvidia cards, you will want to use the restricted driver, which is not possible during a live-session
[05:54] <Tin_man> over the years that I've been evolved with ubuntu, and linux in general, NVIDIA has been a thorn in the side.
[05:54] <system16> ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:55] <hateball> The open source driver nouveau is... not great
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Tin_man: you can discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss if you like
[05:55] <system16> oh and i tried installing hexchat but it didnt open it
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> system16: ok good, now explain what happened after install
[05:57] <Tin_man> lotuspsychje, no discussion necessary https://www.bit-tech.net/news/tech/software/torvalds-slams-nvidia/1/
[05:57] <system16> i typed hexchat in search...an hexchat icon poped in task bar. it was flashing btw...after a few sec the icon disappered
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Tin_man: not here please
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> system16: can you hastbin: sudo lshw -C video please?
[05:58] <system16> plz note : my main OS on this pc is windows
[05:58] <system16> well im in windows now because hexchat didnt open in ubuntu
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> system16: ok, when you get an internal error, you can try to unfold it for more info whats it about
[05:59] <system16> how ?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> system16: try the command to see wich driver is active also
[05:59] <system16> ok
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> system16: and update system to latest
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> system16: try hateball suggestion also
[06:01] <system16> btw i clicked on "install ubuntu" after step 2 it hanged ( freezed)
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> system16: if hexchat fails, try a freenode weh session to #ubuntu
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> system16: but you bypassed that step right, as you instaled hexchat?
[06:02] <system16> step 2 : "install third party software"
[06:03] <system16> i enabled that option
[06:03] <hateball> system16: You can do that after the base install, in case it is giving you trouble for whatever reason (like mirrors being down, or no internet connection)
[06:04] <system16> btw im new to linux what is /dev/sda ? is it my C: drive ?
[06:04] <hateball> system16: You'll still have a fully working system if you leave it unticked
[06:04] <hateball> system16: It's the first drive the kernel finds
[06:05] <system16> so its a drive
[06:05] <hateball> system16: /dev/sda1 being the first partition on it, and so forth
[06:05] <system16> can i change it do c d ... after i installed ubuntu ?
[06:05] <system16> to*
[06:05] <system16> btw i wanna dual-boot
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[06:06] <hateball> system16: Uh... partitions and the filesystem structure is rather different from Windows, there's no "C:"
[06:06] <cfhowlett> hey ^3 lotuspsychje
[06:06] <hateball> system16: If you just follow the install wizard it will install a dual boot and create partitions as needed
[06:07] <system16> so it wont damage windows ?
[06:07] <Tin_man> system16, best bet is not to dual boot, go to some garage sales, and pick up a used computer that has intel graphics, and install ubuntu, and play around with it. It's a good system if you can get it booted up.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> system16: backup your data before you experiment
[06:07] <cfhowlett> system16, somewhat disagree with dual boot advice.
[06:08] <hateball> system16: That's the whole idea of dual boot, but as always take backups. And also like others have said, avoid dual boot if possible :p
[06:08] <cfhowlett> I suggest you install virtualbox to windows, then create a virtualmachine and install a light *buntu (xubuntu/ubuntu/budgie) there until you are ready to commit to a dualboot scenario
[06:09] <system16> i dont want those things i really like ubuntu..
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> system16: why do you need windows for then?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> :)
[06:09] <system16> my main pc has virtual box
[06:10] <system16> i need windows for (games)
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !steam | system16
[06:10] <cfhowlett> feral interactive is releasing linux games quite reguarly
[06:11] <system16> ok i will try to install ubuntu in virtual box
[06:11] <hateball> While Steam is on Linux, sadly not all games are. Depending on what you play that's not an issue tho. And !wine has made good progress as well
[06:12] <cfhowlett> system16, ram and lots of it will optimize your virtual ubuntu experience.
[06:13] <system16> my laptop has 8 GB of ram
[06:13] <system16> intel core i7 6500u
[06:13] <system16> nvidia 940m
[06:14] <cfhowlett> system16, assign half to your ubuntu will give you only 4 gb.  Technically, ubuntu will run but not sprint.  thus my earlier suggest to use a light flavor
[06:14] <system16> btw can i connect to a SFTP server without installing special apps in ubuntu ?
[06:15] <hateball> An ssh-client is installed by default, so yes
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: is new art in making for artful release you know of?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, beyond the new default wallpaper you mean?  not that I know of.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: no contests running? kk
[06:17] <cfhowlett> not that I've heard of.
[06:17] <system16> what the hell ? im being flooded with pms
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> system16: what they say?
[06:18] <system16>  ELKY HAS TURNED LESBIAN (DAX LITTLE DICK DID NOT SATISFY) PLEASE CONGRATULATE HER ON HER NEW JOURNEY AND RECOMMEND ROOMS IN #FREENODE FOR NEW LOVE
[06:18] <cfhowlett> system16, seat your mode to +R will screen out most of thos
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> system16: you can block that by: PM spam? /mode yournickhere +R
[06:18] <system16> ok thanks
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> system16: so i think you have multiple ideas to try now right
[06:21] <system16> yeah, i am installing ubuntu on a VM
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> system16: good, if you really like it, consider an ubuntu full install + steam (if you like to game)
[06:22] <system16> i cant game in VM :)
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> system16: i said on ubuntu full install
[06:22] <system16> oh ok
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> system16: there's a nice linux gaming channel at #gamingonlinux with many happy gamers
[06:37] <vlt> Hello. Is there a way to make a DHCP request without actually changing any network configuration? I want to see what IP address and gateway I *would* get assigned.
[06:38] <system16> i think u can do that in routers setup in info tab
[06:42] <vlt> system16: I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. What do you mean with "routers setup" and "info tab"?
[06:42] <system16> 192.168.1.1
[06:42] <ikonia> vlt: no, the request is what gets the IP
[06:42] <ikonia> vlt: you can't do a "dummy" request,
[06:43] <system16> i use d-link.
[06:43] <ikonia> the router has nothing to do with it
[06:43] <system16> well i can see what is my ip and... in my router setup ...
[06:44] <ducasse> yes, but he wants to see what he *would* get when one isn't assigned yet
[06:44] <ikonia> right, because you have an IP
[06:44] <ikonia> he's asking what he WOULD get, because he doesn't have one
[06:45] <system16> oh ok
[06:46] <vlt> system16: There might be no router involved at all. I just wat to know what IP address I *would* get from a DHCP server (not router).
[06:47] <vlt> *want
[06:47] <ikonia> vlt: there is no "dummy" get from dhclient, sorry
[06:48] <system16> sorry idk how to do that in ubuntu
[06:48] <vlt> ikonia: To be precise I want to know what I would get not because I *don't* have one but because I *already* have one ;-)
[06:48] <system16> y do u want that ?
[06:48] <ikonia> vlt: you'd get what you have then
[06:48] <ikonia> because the lease would still be valid if it's renewed to the point you still have an IP
[06:49] <vlt> ikonia: I doubt that :-D
[06:49] <ikonia> vlt: I don't
[06:49] <vlt> ikonia: I don't have a DHCP assigned IP address now.
[06:49] <ikonia> vlt: stop messing around then, you DONT have an IP then
[06:49] <ikonia> vlt: either way, you have your answer
[06:51] <vlt> ikonia: I'm pretty sure I do have one. If there's no dgclient option I'll try to find out what "whereami" does to probe the DHCP server. Thanks for your help :-)
[06:51] <vlt> *dhclient
[06:52] <ikonia> it won't give you an answer until the lease for the request is allocated
[06:52] <ikonia> the only way to get the lease is to ask for an IP
[06:52] <ikonia> everything else would be a "guess" or a "possible" outcome
[06:57] <coincoin169> Hi, I need java plugin to access some BMC for some server, but with ubuntu 17 and icedtea-plugin installed, firefox won't show me any java plugin in about:plugins. I read that I have to "activate" it, but how?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> should be a popup with a button to trigger approval
[06:58] <coincoin169> cfhowlett: a popup from where? firefox?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> yep.  I get them for flash all the time.  I THINK a similar situation for java
[06:59] <coincoin169> ah yes I see but this means that flash plugin has been "found" by firefox and it asks you permission to execute it.
[06:59] <coincoin169> When you go to about:plugins you can see flash listed.
[06:59] <coincoin169> But for java plugin, it is not even listed in about:plugins
[07:00] <vlt> ikonia: THat's what I want to do. I want to ask for an IP but I don't want to do anything with the result (other than displaying it).
[07:02] <ducasse> coincoin169: aiui you need to use the esr release of firefox to get java now, but i might have misunderstood
[07:02] <system16> oh the setup is working ! no more hangs ... so i think this pc cant handle ubuntu or the iso burner didnt burn the iso correctly
[07:03] <cfhowlett> system16, so your virtualbox is OK?
[07:03] <coincoin169> ducasse: ok, will try now
[07:05] <ducasse> coincoin169: https://www.java.com/en/download/help/firefox_java.xml
[07:05] <xcom169> hello all! AMD is a usable GPU for gaming in Ubuntu?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !amd
[07:05] <cfhowlett> xcom169, in other words, AMD is supported
[07:07] <xcom169> chachasmooth_: Thanks
[07:07] <xcom169> cfhowlett: thanks,
[07:07] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:08] <coincoin169> ducasse: ok, well thanks, but this make me really angry as I have lost 2+ days of trying to get this server to install via PXE to learn by the manufacturer that it does not work because of a hardware bug and my only solution is via BMC. And now I have to install firefox ESR blablibla becuase NPAPI security and stuff..... How to loose 3 days just to install a distro on a server...
[07:08] <system16> cfhowlett, yes my virtualbox is OK
[07:09] <cfhowlett> system16, nice!  work with that for a few weeks then consider a dual boot.
[07:33] <leotreasure> hi
[07:34] <leotreasure> i just tried to install a kernel for amdgpu open source and got a warning saying i should answer no for the next question
[07:34] <leotreasure> the thing is - the dialog is asking me do i want to 'stop install since the kernel-image is already installed'
[07:34] <leotreasure> shouldn't i choose yes in this case?
[07:37] <Matsu> Anyone know why my Unity-editor crashes when I try to load a scene?
[07:37] <Matsu> Ubuntu 16.04
[07:39] <leotreasure> oh  sorry - nm
[07:46] <TsakNorris> I have weird problem. DBAN boots up, but when i try to boot from usb-stick what has ubuntu - it won't boot :/ (usb-sticks have been made in same way using build in creator (both sticks work!)).
[07:47] <TsakNorris> this laptop is AMILO Pi 2530. So very old one.
[07:47] <xcom169> Inter microcode package is needed for an I5 CPU?
[07:48] <ducasse> xcom169: not strictly speaking needed, but preferred
[07:51] <aib> help, my ssh-agent is gone after the upgrade to 17.04!
[07:51] <system16> ok ubuntu is up n running but performance is poor
[07:52] <xcom169> I still stick to 16.04
[07:52] <system16> no more fancy animations...
[07:52] <xcom169> I think it's okay. Kernel is quite up to date 4.10
[07:53] <system16> btw where is START ?
[07:54] <ducasse> 'start'?
[07:56] <system16> there is a start menu in windows
[07:56] <ducasse> well, ubuntu isn't windows :)
[07:56] <system16> task bar ?
[07:56] <ducasse> !manual
[07:57] <aib> false alarm, ssh-agent is alive and well after a restart. must've bugged somewhere
[07:58] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[08:01] <linuxnew> Hi, first time linux user, need help with something really dumb
[08:01] <linuxnew> i have installed linux server on a machine and installed vnc on it as well
[08:02] <linuxnew> unforunately now when i try to connect to 192.168.1.12:5901
[08:02] <linuxnew> it says wrong password
[08:02] <linuxnew> i tried the vncpasswd and defined a new password but still no join
[08:02] <linuxnew> all help is appreciated
[08:05] <alkisg> linuxnew: which vnc server have you installed, and how are you running it?
[08:06] <nugroho> ^msg halo
[08:07] <linuxnew> tightvncserver
[08:07] <linuxnew> not sure about how i am runnging it
[08:07] <linuxnew> i mean i dont understand the question
[08:08] <linuxnew> if i do vncserver :1 it says its already running
[08:08] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[08:08] <nugroho> halo
[08:08] <nugroho> halo
[08:09] <xcom169> Anyhere use encrypted home folder?
[08:09] <xcom169> Anyone
[08:09] <xcom169> *
[08:09] <xcom169> here
[08:10] <linuxnew> can you guide me on checking it? kinda stumped, took me quite a bit of time to start learning it... now stuck with VNC issue
[08:10] <linuxnew> lol
[08:11] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[08:11] <Doc-Saintly> linuxnew: Ubuntu comes with a VNC server built in as the default method of remotely sharing the desktop
[08:12] <linuxnew> ok, so is there anyway to connect to the built in server?
[08:12] <Doc-Saintly> I think it's the Vino one. So, if you installed tightvnc as wel, they're probably fighting each other :)
[08:12] <linuxnew> i am trying to check the desktop enviromnet
[08:12] <Doc-Saintly> just use the menu and open the "Remote Sharing" (I  think) app
[08:12] <alkisg> linuxnew: why do you keep pasting that WHA... line? Also, run it like this: vncserver. It will ask for a default pass, and it will tell you which display it's using. Also, what are you trying to do?
[08:12] <Doc-Saintly> you can configure the password, if a confirmation is required, etc.
[08:13] <linuxnew> ok let me try
[08:13] <linuxnew> i am not the one posting WHA thing
[08:13] <alkisg> Ah yes sorry, my client was using the same username color there
[08:14] <linuxnew> New 'X' desktop is orangepi:3
[08:14] <linuxnew> and gave me a log file..
[08:14] <linuxnew> now i need to change vncpasswd?
[08:14] <linuxnew> which i did and still no joy
[08:14] <alkisg> Didn't it ask for a password already?
[08:14] <alkisg> OK then you can connect using "vncviewer :3"
[08:15] <alkisg> But note that this vncserver by default is running *another* desktop, not sharing the one you have
[08:15] <linuxnew> still says wrong pass
[08:15] <alkisg> When you typed "vncserver", it showed some output. Paste *all* the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <linuxnew> any desktop is fine.. as long as i can figure out how to get to it.. lol
[08:16] <linuxnew> Starting applications specified in /home/orangepi/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/orangepi/.vnc/orangepi:3.log
[08:16] <system16> whats the default DE name ?
[08:16] <linuxnew> this was the output
[08:16] <alkisg> linuxnew, all of it, even the part where it asks for the password
[08:16] <alkisg> Because if it didn't ask for one, it's using one from the .vnc folder, which might not be the one you expect
[08:16] <linuxnew> orangepi@orangepi:~$ vncserver  New 'X' desktop is orangepi:3  Starting applications specified in /home/orangepi/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/orangepi/.vnc/orangepi:3.log  orangepi@orangepi:~$ vncpasswd Password: Verify:
[08:17] <linuxnew> ok so i need to go to .vnc folder and edit a file?
[08:17] <alkisg> linuxnew: killall Xtightvnc; mv ~/.vnc /tmp/; vncserver
[08:18] <alkisg> It should ask for a password without you typing "vncpasswd" or anything
[08:18] <ducasse> system16: until now, unity. from 17.10 on it will be gnome 3
[08:18] <linuxnew> ok let me try with the command you gae
[08:19] <hateball> system16: make sure you activate the restricted nvidia driver or your performance will suck
[08:20] <linuxnew> used your command it didnt ask for a password
[08:20] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[08:20] <alkisg> linuxnew: hmm anyway, are you trying to share your existing desktop or create a new one?
[08:20] <Ben64> nugroho: stop that
[08:21] <bazhang> nugroho, stop posting that here
[08:21] <linuxnew> exiting view,
[08:21] <alkisg> linuxnew: sudo apt install x11vnc; x11vnc
[08:21] <linuxnew> technically i havent been able to access it as the video out on the machine is not working
[08:23] <linuxnew> so i am trying to install vnc server and access the my current user's desktop... i want to see if the GUi looks good..
[08:23] <linuxnew> lol
[08:23] <system16> hateball i installed ubuntu in virtualbox
[08:23] <linuxnew> i have only used ubuntu desktop before
[08:23] <linuxnew> and for like 1-2 days..
[08:24] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[08:24] <alkisg> linuxnew: ok, type the command that I wrote.
[08:25] <system16> btw can i change /dev/sda to C:\ and /dev/sda2 to D:\ ?
[08:25] <Ben64> system16: linux doesn't use things like C:\
[08:26] <system16>  /dev/sda confuses me
[08:26] <hateball> system16: oh in a VM, then I suppose you need to install some guest tools to get 3D accel, nothing I know about however
[08:26] <system16> hateball 3d accel is on
[08:26] <system16> and guest additions are installed
[08:27] <system16> oh nice. file explorer in ubuntu supports SFTP nice.
[08:32] <linuxnew> ok, hmm its doing an update so i think the dpkg is busy
[08:32] <linuxnew> it wont let me use it
[08:33] <linuxnew> installation started
[08:39] <linuxnew> on x11vnc installed
[08:39] <linuxnew> ok*
[08:39] <linuxnew> giving out some stuff about the vnc server running without a password
[08:40] <alkisg> linuxnew: and can you connect now?
[08:40] <linuxnew> connection refused
[08:40] <alkisg> linuxnew: vncviewer localhost. Without :0 or :1
[08:41] <alkisg> Also, how are you getting access to Xorg, if you don't have a monitor? Using ssh and export DISPLAY etc?
[08:41] <linuxnew> so just type "vncviewer localhost"
[08:41] <alkisg> Yes
[08:41] <linuxnew> i used network to find the IP and ssh to it
[08:42] <alkisg> Then you don't have access to display or xauthority, right?
[08:42] <linuxnew> No command 'vncviewer' found, did you mean:  Command 'gvncviewer' from package 'gvncviewer' (universe)  Command 'jvncviewer' from package 'vnc-java' (multiverse) vncviewer: command not found
[08:42] <alkisg> If you type `xterm`, does it run or crash?
[08:42] <alkisg> *or exit...
[08:42] <linuxnew> xterm display is not set
[08:42] <Fluffy007> hello everyone
[08:43] <alkisg> linuxnew: and is xorg running? pgrep Xorg
[08:43] <linuxnew> orangepi@orangepi:~$ xterm xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: xterm: DISPLAY is not set
[08:43] <linuxnew> 873
[08:43] <linuxnew> not sure what that means
[08:44] <linuxnew> pgrep xorg
[08:44] <linuxnew> output
[08:44] <alkisg> linuxnew: it means that you have a graphics session but you don't have some variables set, like DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY, so you can't access it
[08:44] <linuxnew> ahh ok
[08:44] <linuxnew> 800x600 should be fine
[08:44] <alkisg> linuxnew: Is that orange pi, with what Ubuntu version, 16.04?
[08:44] <linuxnew> yes 16.04 new
[08:44] <linuxnew> i used lubuntu distrbution
[08:45] <alkisg> linuxnew: how did you install without a display?
[08:47] <yeeve> Anyone know of a nice tool to do global text replacement? I want to be able to type out :thumbs and it changes it to 👍
[08:48] <hateball> yeeve: regardless of app?
[08:48] <yeeve> yeah pretty much, if it worked in 90% of places I'd be happy. It's main browser, text-editor and IRC client
[08:48] <linuxnew> used a sd card to write image using something called etcher
[08:48] <linuxnew> or w32disk
[08:48] <linuxnew> it was very annoying... too many times failed
[08:49] <hateball> yeeve: there is autokey, but I do not know how well it works
[08:49] <yeeve> hateball, it's a start :) I'll check it out
[08:49] <hateball> !info autokey-gtk
[08:49] <alkisg> linuxnew: do you mind uploading a list of your processes, to see if it's in lightdm or autologged in? ps faux | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:49] <hateball> or -qt, if you use kde plasma
[08:51] <linuxnew> http://termbin.com/au9d
[08:52] <linuxnew> linux is pretty handson lol
[08:52] <alkisg> linuxnew: it's in lightdm, so it's more difficult to gain access. Do you have a main linux box where you're working from? Is it ubuntu, or e.g. windows with putty?
[08:52] <xcom169> Anyone here use encrypted home folder?
[08:53] <linuxnew> windows putty
[08:54] <alkisg> Hmm, more difficult then. Just for fun, I can help you with remote support if you want...
[08:55] <linuxnew> hmm teamvierwer... but this PC is not mine...
[08:55] <alkisg> No need
[08:55] <alkisg> You run this on the client: sudo apt install epoptes-client
[08:55] <alkisg> (no need to access the windows pc)
[08:56] <linuxnew> so how does this activate?
[08:56] <linuxnew> any password required? or link?
[08:56] <alkisg> epoptes-client is smart enough to find the display even on lightdm
[08:56] <yeeve> hateball, it seems to work nicely apart from the replace it blank, any advice? (I'm googling but not found anything yet)
[08:56] <alkisg> Did you install it?
[08:56] <linuxnew> yes its starting
[08:56] <linuxnew> headless orangepi sucks
[08:56] <linuxnew> slow
[08:57] <linuxnew> update-rc.d: warning: default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match epoptes-client Default-Stop values (none) Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ...
[08:57] <hateball> yeeve: I do not use it myself, I only know it exists ;p
[08:57] <alkisg> linuxnew: I've send you the epoptes-client command to connect to me, in a PM
[08:57] <yeeve> hateball, no problem dude :P it's exactly what I need, I just need to figure it out :) cheers dude, thanks a tonne
[08:59] <linuxnew> i dont think it worked
[09:00] <alkisg> linuxnew: it's fine. Now from ssh, run these commands, replacing ';' with 'enter':
[09:01] <alkisg> sudo -i;  export $(/usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display); x11vnc
[09:01] <alkisg> Then go to windows, use ultravnc or something, and connect to the orangepi IP
[09:02] <alkisg> linuxnew, I can see your xfce login screen
[09:04] <linuxnew> finally
[09:04] <alkisg> linuxnew: all ok? :)
[09:04] <linuxnew> yea!.. many thans
[09:04] <alkisg> linuxnew: remember the previous commands, you'll need them again if you want access to lightdm
[09:04] <linuxnew> thanks!!!
[09:04] <alkisg> I'm closing my connection, have fun
[09:05] <linuxnew> thanks
[09:05] <alkisg> np
[09:05] <linuxnew> this makes it easier to work with... i had to google so many commands
[09:05] <alkisg> Yeah not many know of the epoptes-client tricks ;)
[09:06] <alkisg> It's handy when you need to support 1000+ schools :D
[09:07] <alkisg> And if you had a linux desktop box, you'd run epoptes-server there, and see the client in thumbnail etc
[09:07] <alkisg> Without even needing to ssh
[09:08] <linuxnew> ah
[09:08] <linuxnew> very nice, many thanks
[09:08] <linuxnew> going to play around in the UI for a while
[09:08] <alkisg> np
[09:08] <alkisg> have fun
[09:08] <linuxnew> thanks again. i will logg
[09:10] <Kryptonian> Guide says "Write changes and quit vi", how do i save the changes. I am inside sudo vi/etc/default/grub
[09:11] <vlt> Kryptonian: :wq
[09:12] <vlt> Kryptonian: (And hit enter)
[09:12] <Kryptonian> wow thanks :D
[09:13] <vlt> Kryptonian: That's [w]rite and [q]uit obviously ;-)
[09:15] <Kryptonian> Nice, is : used often? On side note, my Ubuntu machine is now full screen :D
[09:19] <hateball> Kryptonian: There's also nano installed by default on Ubuntu, if you want a little less difficult text editor for beginners :p
[09:19] <hateball> vi has the upside of always being there regardless of what system you use basically, so good to learn it anyway
[09:22] <Kryptonian> should of installed linux on the damn SSD
[09:24] <xcom169> Kryptonian: SSD is expensive
[09:26] <Kryptonian> True but I mean, look at it. It's doing nothing. https://i.imgur.com/hFdICeJ.png (SSD is Disk 0)
[09:27] <Kryptonian> Now that I think about it, I should of just used one of the other HDD, instead of loading all of my VMs in a single folder (yep, didn't plan this out)
[09:40] <Anticom> Hi all. Im in the process of installing ubuntu on my laptop as secondary OS
[09:41] <Anticom> Now im stuck with US keyboard layout because download of firefox and thunderbird locales failed for german language
[09:41] <Anticom> is this a known issue_
[09:42] <Anticom> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25725259/
[09:46] <sYnfo> Hey, I installed postgres, modified the config, and now I'd like to reinstall postgres and get the default config, however neither apt-get remove, nor apt-get purge seems to make the latter install rewrite the configs. What should I do?
[09:46] <vlt> Anticom: apt update
[09:46] <vlt> Anticom: Then try again.
[09:49] <Anticom> sYnfo: usually a purge should get rid of the config aswell. If that doesn't work, try finding all files postgres package has installed by running   dpkg-query -L postgresql
[09:49] <stub> sYnfo: ' pg_dropcluster 9.5 main' will destroy the existing database and config. 'pg_createcluster 9.5 main' will create a fresh install
[09:50] <Anticom> Also during upgrade i got errors with cryptsetup. Is this pck broken atm_
[09:53] <ducasse> Anticom: looks like connection problems, try with another mirror
[09:53] <sYnfo> I did, perhaps foolishly, rm -rf /etc/postgresql, so maybe that's the issue?
[09:54] <Anticom> sYnfo: dpkg should be smart enough i think
[09:54] <sYnfo> dpkg-query -L postgresql only shows some things in /usr/share
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:02] <vlt> ikonia: I found this one: https://github.com/JohannesBuchner/DHCProbe
[10:09] <yeeve> Anyone use any nice software to merge your messaging accounts into one place? I use IRC, Slack and Discord a so it would be nice to group them somehow.
[10:09] <vlt> !find dhcp-probe
[10:10] <hateball> yeeve: difficult with things that dont use open protocols
[10:12] <yeeve> hateball, I didn't consider that. I found https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge and http://meetfranz.com/ but I have no idea if they're stable/useful/safe
[10:12] <yeeve> Ah, rambox is one I have heard of, anyone know/use it?
[10:13] <Anticom> Why do i need to disable UEFI secure boot when choosing to install non-free software?
[10:13] <Anticom> I don't get this
[10:15] <ducasse> Anticom: you don't need to, you can also sign those modules yourself
[10:15] <hateball> Anticom: Are you talking about eg nvidia driver?
[10:16] <Anticom> hateball: the installer was telling me to
[10:16] <hateball> Anticom: "the installer" isnt very helpful
[10:16] <Anticom> Although i can disable that checkbox that disables secureboot
[10:16] <hateball> Anticom: The installer for *what* ?
[10:17] <Anticom> hateball: FYI I'm currently on a live image of ubuntu and have launched the installer because i'd like to have ubuntu as secondary OS
[10:17] <Anticom> hateball: well... ubuntu's installer
[10:17] <hateball> Right
[10:17] <ducasse> Anticom: normally, ubuntu signs kernel modules for you, but third-party modules are built on your machine and thus need to be signed there
[10:17] <hateball> Well anyhows, using nvidia proprietary driver requires you to disable secureboot, but that's only in the shim, it's not in the actual UEFI
[10:17] <Anticom> ducasse: is it difficult to sign packages?
[10:17] <Anticom> never did this before
[10:17] <ducasse> and the installer doesn't disable secure boot, it disables module verification
[10:18] <Anticom> As a background: I've just bought a new lenovo laptop (t470p) and i don't know whether all peripherals will work w/o using properiatery drivers
[10:18] <ducasse> not packages, kernel modules. you need to create a key, enroll it and sign the modules every time they get rebuilt on kernel updates
[10:19] <Anticom> Maybe i'm on the wrong track anyways
[10:19] <hateball> Anticom: if you have a modern computer you're going to want to use nvidia proprietary driver, at least for now
[10:19] <Anticom> hateball: it's got an nvidia 940m installed
[10:19] <hateball> but that's probably the only thing, apart from intel microcode
[10:19] <Anticom> however all my monitors are working fine and the graphics are smooth
[10:20] <hateball> Well, don't fix it if it isnt broken
[10:20] <Anticom> and it's not intended to be a gaming rig anyways
[10:20] <hateball> If you intend to do any gaming tho, performance will be not-great with nouveau
[10:20] <Anticom> and what about this mp3 thing?
[10:21] <Anticom> hateball: no it's a work-horse and just needs to power my IDEs. However I'm eventually going to look into GPU accelerated TensorFlow. Dunno whether i need any nvidia drivers for that
[10:21] <hateball> Anticom: you need nvidia driver to run cuda
[10:22] <hateball> Anticom: well mp3 used to be patent encumbered so that's why it couldnt be shipped by default
[10:22] <hateball> but I think that went away recently?
[10:24] <Anticom> https://imgur.com/uLPRhTr this is what i'm seeing
[10:25] <Anticom> Btw it's 16.04 LTS
[10:26] <hateball> Anticom: Yes, like we've already established, that is due to installing the nvidia driver
[10:27] <Anticom> hateball: Sorry for being stupid but i'm not really sure of the consequences still :/
[10:27] <ducasse> it will disable the verification of module signatures
[10:29] <Anticom> ducasse: but secure boot will still be active?
[10:29] <Anticom> because it's explicitly mentioning secure boot there
[10:29] <hateball> Anticom: In UEFI you will have the option of both Windows and Ubuntu once you install. Once you pick Ubuntu it will load the shim, and this disables module verification *there*
[10:29] <hateball> It has no impact on UEFI or Windows
[10:29] <hateball> If you could disable secureboot from a liveboot, wouldnt that defeat the point?
[10:30] <Anticom> hateball: And what's the "security key" i'm being prompted for?
[10:32] <ducasse> iirc, that's where you set the password to interact with the mokmanager on the next boot, where you select to disable verification.
[10:32] <Anticom> ducasse: so that doesn't affect any BIOS settings?
[10:32] <ducasse> no
[10:32] <hateball> I feel like this is going in circles
[10:33] <Anticom> hateball: well I don't know a lot about those things and i want to do my installation right because i feel like fixing it afterwards would be a great pain
[10:33] <Anticom> sorry to annoy you guys
[10:33] <hateball> Anticom: I didnt mean to offend
[10:33] <Anticom> hateball: didn't take it as such
[10:33] <Anticom> :)
[10:33] <hateball> Anticom: Here's a post also https://askubuntu.com/questions/765697/why-was-i-asked-to-create-a-password-in-order-to-disable-secure-boot-on-initial
[10:34] <hateball> Anticom: You can of course choose to not do these during install, but then you need to manually run mokutil to disable module verification, install drivers etc
[10:34] <Anticom> hateball: hm in the top answer it says that the bootloader is protected. However when choosing to install ubuntu alongside windows grub is installed as boot manager. Or is grub != bootloader?
[10:36] <hateball> Anticom: well with UEFI it is chained. UEFI will boot GRUB which will then boot Ubuntu
[10:37] <ducasse> grub is signed. if you select windows, it will pass verification off tho the windows bootloader. of you select ubuntu, it will pass you off to a signed shim, which is what controls if ubuntu is booted with or without verification on.
[10:37] <Anticom> so GRUB should be signed in order to work with secure boot or am i missing something?
[10:37] <Anticom> aaaah
[10:37] <ducasse> tho=to
[10:37] <Anticom> okay
[10:37] <Anticom> so the verification is checked twice nevertheless of the chosen OS
[10:37] <Anticom> (?)
[10:38] <ducasse> think of it as a chain
[10:38] <Anticom> yep, got it
[10:38] <ducasse> firmware -> boot manager -> bootloader -> kernel ...
[10:38] <Anticom> Okay one last question concerning the partitioning. I've read over at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Install_Ubuntu that choosing the first option is not recommended
[10:38] <Anticom> why is that?
[10:39] <Anticom> I mean in my case it's a single SSD and it's just my personal laptop. So I don't see the need to fiddle with partitions or is there any advantage in my case of doing so?
[10:39] <hateball> Anticom: Probably due to non-microsoft-made tools being used to resize NTFS partitions
[10:40] <Anticom> hateball: before booting into live Ubuntu image i've shrunk the windows partition as far as i could already
[10:40] <hateball> So it is recommended you use the tools provided in that OS to resize partitions to leave free space for Ubuntu to be installed on
[10:41] <hateball> That information is outdated also, it mentions swap partition but swap file is now used...
[10:41] <hateball> Not in 16.04 tho I guess
[10:41] <Anticom> hateball: when checking the latter box and clicking next this is what i see: https://imgur.com/3OvhLEJ
[10:42] <Anticom> Also i should mention that i'm basically a newbie when it comes to partitions and related stuff. So I'm likely to break anything rather than doing it better than the automatic setup
[10:42] <hateball> Anticom: I'd go with automatic :)
[10:42] <Anticom> So unless one of you guys would like to give me step-by-step instructions i'm stuck with the manual setup anyways
[10:42] <arunkumar413> I'm not able to access vk.com
[10:42] <Anticom> hateball: agree
[10:43] <arunkumar413> ping command isn't returning any bytes
[10:43] <hateball> Anticom: It should do "The right thing" as long as you just point it to the free space
[10:43] <arunkumar413> seems like the ISP has blocked
[10:43] <arunkumar413> how should I access it
[10:43] <hateball> arunkumar413: Talk to your ISP then, not an Ubuntu problem
[10:44] <arunkumar413> hateball: can i change the DNS
[10:45] <ducasse> arunkumar413: how is this an ubuntu problem?
[10:46] <arunkumar413> ducasse: I didn't say it's a ubuntu problem. I'm asking for the ways to access it by tweaking ubuntu settings
[10:47] <ducasse> arunkumar413: and we're not going to help you bypass isp blocks and similar
[10:47] <hateball> ducasse: Go into your network settings and pick any DNS you like
[10:48] <Anticom> going to reboot, see you soon... hopefully :D
[10:48] <arunkumar413> ducasse: normally if it's blocked we get a message saying that as per govt directive we have blocked the webpage. But there is no such message. Not sure if it's blocked. Could be a network issue
[10:49] <arunkumar413> able to access it on my mobile through same ISP
[10:56] <spotted01> Hi all. Any idea how to get nzbget installed and running. I have installed it but I am having trouble getting it running with systemctl
[10:57] <arunkumar413> ducasse: confirmed it's blocked
[10:57] <arunkumar413> by  govt
[10:58] <arunkumar413> also I found that /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 127.0.1.1. Is it okay to have this?
[10:59] <ducasse> that's normal, yes
[11:29] <xcom169> Could anyone help me in encrypted drive problem?
[11:30] <cerion> xcom169: yes. describe it
[11:31] <xcom169> cerion: I have an encrypted /home folder. And when I do the shutdown ( or restart) a job (something like *dm* ) is still running
[11:31] <xcom169> cerion: This job prevents my system to shut down quickly
[11:31] <xcom169> cerion: Have you seen a problem like tihs?
[11:32] <cerion> xcom169: no. what kind of job are you talking aobut ?
[11:32] <xcom169> cerion: like this: (1 of 6) A stop job is running for /dev/disk/by-id/dm-uuid-CRYPT-PLAIN-cryptswap1 (30s / 1min 30s)
[11:33] <xcom169> cerion: I have ubuntu 16:04
[11:34] <cerion> xcom169: your example is aobut the encrypted swap not home
[11:35] <cerion> xcom169: what are the other 5 jobs ?
[11:35] <cerion> paste at paste.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <oerheks> encrypted swap ..i would cahnge that to normal swap, unless you have a high profile.. then i would not use swap at all
[11:36] <xcom169> cerion: I don't remember to chose encyrpted swap. Is it default for encyrpted home?
[11:36] <oerheks> 17.04 uses a swapfile, instead of a partition
[11:36] <xcom169> cerion: Okay, I will copy, paste the job names.
[11:36] <cerion> xcom169: yes
[11:37] <xcom169> cerion: the shutdown log is available in some file ?
[11:37] <xcom169> oerheks: How to change it back to normal swap,
[11:38] <cerion> xcom169: no no encrypted swap is fine
[11:38] <cerion> xcom169: Try looking in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/*.log
[11:45] <xcom169> cerion: Maybe this is my problem: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2691
[12:19] <glachas> The following command to copy files having "li" in their names to another folder doesn't work...
[12:21] <glachas> THe command to copy files having li in their names doesn't work :cp (ls | grep 'li') <folder_name>
[12:24] <oerheks> cp *li* <foldername>
[12:40] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04LTS and my device is a Lenovo t470p. It's got a fingerprint reader which i'd like to use if possible. I've skipped through https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ThinkFinger/ already but i don't have the "SGS Thomson Microelectronics Fingerprint Reader" usb device. Does anyone know if there's an alternative package to make use of my fingerprint reader?
[12:42] <Anticom> I've got a "Validity Sensors, Inc" though
[12:42] <Anticom> Maybe https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fprint is a suitable fit for me?
[12:42] <oerheks> Anticom, check with lspci/lsusb for the 8 digit code, if it is not in the list, i am so sorry .. https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[12:48] <pankaj> Every time to enter to this channel I have to authenticate my username and password. Is this happens for everybody? Because 'autojoin' does not work
[12:49] <Anticom> pankaj: are you using a browser based client or a native one?
[12:49] <pankaj> Anticom: I am using hexchat
[12:49] <Anticom> pankaj: i personally prefer hexchat, there you can enter your credentials in the settings and use SASL for authentication
[12:49] <Anticom> that way you don't have to authenticate against NickServ everytime
[12:50] <jink> I prefer irssi.
[12:50] <pankaj> How do you do that. I also want to automate this.
[12:50] <Anticom> pankaj: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat
[12:50] <pankaj> Anticom:
[12:50] <pankaj> Anticom: OK
[13:03] <vijaikumar> Hello everybody
[13:03] <vijaikumar> I use this following command to get Xorg version in my scripts
[13:04] <vijaikumar> Xorg --version
[13:04] <vijaikumar> It was working fine in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[13:04] <vijaikumar> Today i randomly tested it
[13:04] <vijaikumar> and i am getting an error
[13:04] <vijaikumar>  /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server
[13:05] <vijaikumar> I use it to get the version and force user's machine to use virtualgl since there were some issues with Xorg in between
[13:06] <EriC^^> vijaikumar: try Xorg -version
[13:07] <Anticom> On 16.04LTS should i rather use unity-tweak-tool or ubuntu-tweak?
[13:08] <Anticom> (Setting up Flatabulous)
[13:08] <vijaikumar> EriC^^: Same issue
[13:09] <ac_slater> guys please. I didnt update any packages or anything, but after rebooting I can't change monitor resolution and network manager grays out wifi. Is gnome puking
[13:09] <Anticom> vijaikumar: probably not recommended but for me sudo Xorg -version works
[13:09] <ac_slater> ?
[13:10] <Anticom> ac_slater: any valuable information from dmesg?
[13:10] <EriC^^> vijaikumar: seems like it's a known bug
[13:10] <ac_slater> Anticom: nothing mate
[13:11] <Anticom> hm
[13:11] <ac_slater> Anticom: No errors or anything
[13:11] <EriC^^> vijaikumar: why don't you use dpkg to get the version if it's to be run only on ubuntu/debian?
[13:12] <ac_slater> Anticom: I'm not too good at debugging gnome issues :(
[13:13] <Anticom> ac_slater: dunno whether it's a gnome issue. Did you try changing resolution via cli?
[13:13] <ac_slater> Anticom: yea xrandr just has a single mode
[13:14] <EriC^^> vijaikumar: you can edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to have allowed_users=anybody
[13:14] <Zeljko> hey
[13:14] <Zeljko> sudo ./Ampps  ./Ampps: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:14] <Zeljko> whats wrong ?
[13:16] <ac_slater> Anticom: yea man, no idea what's wrong here
[13:16] <Southern_Gentlem> you need libtsdc-devel
[13:16] <ac_slater> Anticom: rather shitty honestly, hopefully it's something simple
[13:16] <Southern_Gentlem> you need libstdc-devel
[13:17] <Anticom> ac_slater: sorry i'm not an expert either
[13:18] <alkisg> ac_slater: what did you upgrade, e.g. from 14.04 to 16.04? Kernel upgrade? Xorg upgrade?
[13:18] <Anticom> Btw anyone on my question regarding unity-tweak-tool vs ubuntu-tweak on 16.04
[13:18] <vijaikumar> EriC^^: Thanks i will check it out
[13:18] <vijaikumar> But i run it on Debian and RHEL
[13:18] <vijaikumar> I guess i have to look at distro specific solution now
[13:19] <vijaikumar> Appreciate your help :)
[13:19] <EriC^^> vijaikumar: no problem :)
[13:20] <trafaret1> hi there
[13:21] <alkisg> vijaikumar: hehe, then if you get that message, assume it's a new xorg :)
[13:21] <alkisg> vijaikumar: also file a bug report for that to be fixed, at least --version should run as non-root
[13:22] <alkisg> vijaikumar: you can also run: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -version
[13:23] <alkisg> Bypassing the Xorg.wrap which causes the permissions issue
[13:25] <rizonz> hi guys
[13:25] <rizonz> which package does contain GeoIP.dat ?
[13:25] <EriC^^> !find GeoIP.dat
[13:26] <EriC^^> rizonz: check the link above
[13:26] <EriC^^> rizonz: nevermind, it looks like geoip-database has it
[13:29] <rizonz> EriC^^: doesn't place th epackage here
[13:30] <rizonz> ah have it
[13:30] <oerheks> same answer as in ##linux, rizonz :-D
[13:31] <jamie_1> hey, i have a curious question... i had my hard drive port on my laptop stop working and ended up just using a external hdd duck taped to the top of the laptop lid... does any one know of any ways to install windows from linux on a eternal hdd?e i have been researching it and all i can find is way to do it from a windows install and all i have right now is ubuntu gnome and have no way to boot windows till i find a way to install it on the
[13:31] <trafaret1> is it possible to install ubuntu like second os on PC right from hard drive?
[13:31] <jamie_1> trafaret1: yes
[13:32] <jamie_1> you just need to make a live boot usb and then follow the instructions for install and select install along side windows when the option shows up
[13:33] <alkisg> jamie_1: you can create a windows boot usb stick, and then install to an external windows disk, without involving ubuntu at all; which means you can ask how to do this in #windows
[13:33] <Menzador> ##windows
[13:33] <oerheks> "any ways to install windows from linux" no
[13:33] <Menzador> (not without a VM)
[13:34] <jamie_1> alkisg: not really... windows has a really stupid block... its installer will not allow installation to a external hdd
[13:34] <alkisg> jamie_1: it's possible, but not related to ubuntu, so off topic here
[13:34] <jamie_1> alkisg: i know but it though there might be some bright person in here and have a link off the cuff XD
[13:35] <alkisg> True, but since it's off topic, we can't post it :D
[13:35] <oerheks> sure, join ##windows
[13:35] <jamie_1> darn you alkisg :P
[13:35] <EriC^^> jamie_1: it's very simple, the solution is #*&$(#($&%* *censored*
[13:35] <alkisg> There are many crypto-super windows sysadmins here. All hiding behind an ubuntu mask.
[13:35] <jamie_1> rofl XD
[13:36] <EriC^^> j/k, seriously though in ##windows they probably know
[13:37] <EriC^^> jamie_1: one idea i had, which is a little "last resort" would be to use virtualbox to install it using the hdd as a rawdisk image, that way windows wouldn't know what's going on really
[13:37] <jamie_1> alkisg: i know that a large handful here have a large or at least larger knowlege than i do in here... expecially windows and ubuntu interacting... seeing as the last time i used windows was when i swapped from windows 7 i think it was to ubuntu 8.04 XE
[13:37] <jamie_1> *XD
[13:37] <jamie_1> EriC^^: thats what i was thinking. Thanks for confirming
[13:38] <EriC^^> there's probably an easier way, join ##windows :D
[13:38] <jamie_1> i might just say... nah screw it ubuntu is enough like i usually do
[13:38] <EriC^^> they're friendly there, if it were ##c i'd tell you to forget about it xD
[13:39] <jamie_1> EriC^^: oh i know that one... same with ##js
[13:39] <jamie_1> just thought ehhh... screw it i have 1tb now might as well do two os... but if its gonna be a huge hassel i go back to working on the site i need to get done
[13:40] <eater9> Hi - accented characters are displaying wrong in all my browsers! "ó" looks like "y" and "é" looks like "й"
[13:42] <alkisg> eater9: go to view > encoding menu, and select the correct one
[13:42] <EriC^^> jamie_1: if you have a cdrom you could use that as the hdd port if you have a usb to sata cable or something
[13:43] <eater9> alkisg: in Firefox it's set to Unicode; Chrome does not have an Encoding setting that I can find
[13:43] <eater9> alkisg: changing the setting in Firefox doesn't seem to make a difference
[13:44] <alkisg> eater9: is it a public url that you can share?
[13:44] <eater9> alkisg: here's an example: http://instantwatcher.com/title/80035684
[13:45] <eater9> alkisg: it looks like "el patryn del mal" on my browsers
[13:45] <eater9> starring Andrйs Parra
[13:45] <alkisg> eater9: press ctrl+u to view the source code. Does it happen there too?
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[13:46] <pankaj__> Can I use hexchat on terminal.
[13:46] <eater9> alkisg: Nope, the source code is in monospace font and looks correct
[13:46] <JonelethIrenicus> where can I set an environmental variable and have it picked up system wide?
[13:46] <JonelethIrenicus> will .bashrc do that?
[13:47] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: /etc/bash.bashrc
[13:48] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: ~/.bashrc is only for your user
[13:48] <JonelethIrenicus> leftyfb: ok anytime an application is ran it will see it then?
[13:48] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: try it
[13:49] <alkisg> eater9: if you copy/paste it, does it display correctly?
[13:50] <alkisg> (e.g. in gedit)
[13:51] <eater9> alkisg: Yes it does
[13:51] <DArqueBishop> pankaj__: there are good console IRC clients like irssi and Weechat.
[13:51] <alkisg> eater9: it sounds like a broken font issue then, does it happen in a default install, or did you add some new broken font?
[13:51] <pankaj__> Ok
[13:52] <pankaj__> alkisg: OK
[13:54] <eater9> alkisg: No, I haven't installed any fonts. The browsers are using Ubuntu font, but when I use Ubuntu font in LibreOffice, the characters look correct
[13:56] <w3ptt> I'm still trying to get into grub menu to set nomodeset after switching out nvidia drivers. I hold the SHIFT key and it says "grub loading" then goes blank. Is my best bet to just boot off a install image and edit grub config?
[14:00] <alkisg> cla
[14:07] <Dworf> Any ideas, why program that i set up starting at start wont start without asking password, even i modified sudoers file as: user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/program  ?
[14:07] <Dworf> using same path to "startup aplications" and it starts it, but still asking passwd?
[14:08] <leftyfb> Dworf: why aren't you starting it up as root as a systemd unit or cron job or rc.local?
[14:09] <Dworf> its application with UI aint that a problem if i start it from cmd before the user has even logged in?
[14:09] <leftyfb> Dworf: you're running a UI program on boot that requires sudo?
[14:10] <Dworf> my user log in -> application starts
[14:10] <Dworf> and when it start, it asks sudo passwd
[14:10] <Chaos_Zero> Hey guys Ubuntu 17.04 laptop on resume mouse works not keyboard so can't log in any work around you can think of?
[14:10] <Chaos_Zero> It is usually fine
[14:11] <Chaos_Zero> But sometimes I need to standby and resume again for know to work
[14:11] <Dworf> so leftyfb basically yes, after my user has logged in.
[14:29] <PCatinean> hey guys, I have a .cfg file that ends in exclude = foo,bar how can I add from the console bla at the end without newline?
[14:29] <alkisg> PCatinean: try sed 's/exclude = foo/\& bla/' file.cfg
[14:30] <alkisg> If it works, put -i to directly modify the file...
[14:30] <oerheks> sudo vim <file>
[14:30] <PCatinean> oerheks, i mean automatically without having access to it, this is for a CI to add more files to the exclusion
[14:30] <alkisg> sed 's/exclude = foo/& bla/' file.cfg
[14:30] <alkisg> & instead of \&
[14:31] <alkisg> So, sed 's/exclude = foo,bar/&,bla/' file.cfg
[14:31] <alkisg> (-i to write to the file)
[14:34] <PCatinean> alkisg, I can assume the content will change though
[14:34] <PCatinean> and it still needs to work
[14:49] <niels__> anyone know where i can read about /var/log/auth.log? about the format, meaning of the fields, etc
[14:53] <Dani-hp> Is there a way to change the Unity Launcher Items (Default App's) for every user? even after they are created?
[14:55] <Tin_man> Dani-hp, I don't know of a way, I would imagine the user just arranges the launcher the way they would like it
[14:56] <Dani-hp> :( that sucks
[14:57] <Tin_man> i'm just me, someone else might know of a way, just hang around, and ask again later.
[14:59] <CuChulaind> Hello. I have server 16.04 installed, with unity, which keeps hanging after a few programs are opened. I tried to install gnome, but it says that I have broken packages, I tried to update, fix, etc, to no avail. suggestions?
[15:00] <PCatinean> this was it echo "$(cat $FILE)$APPEND" > $FILE
[15:00] <CuChulaind> I have asked in #server, but . . . it doesn't appeat to be very active
[15:01] <Tin_man> Dani-hp, might look at this link, didn't read the whole link, but seemed to address some unity launcher items.
[15:01] <Tin_man> https://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[15:04] <freakynl> CuChulaind: try from cli: apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[15:04] <freakynl> CuChulaind: as root btw, otherwise sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[15:05] <CuChulaind> freakynl, will that update to a newer version of ubuntu? I wish to stay with 16.04, unless it is unstable
[15:05] <CuChulaind> freakynl, my preference is to simply switch to a different dekstop, and see if that helps
[15:06] <fuser> Is this border normal or not when you ctrl+ and ctrl- in your terminal? https://i.imgur.com/hJqtWi6.png -- the white is the border, its in the color of the terminal background color
[15:07] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: that will not upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[15:10] <oerheks> fuser, not in terminal, what application did you start in terminal?
[15:10] <CuChulaind> https://dpaste.de/wFZ9
[15:10] <CuChulaind> It doesn't appear to have done anything
[15:11] <fuser> oerheks: That's gnome-terminal, also appears in terminator and others, and that's the vim app.
[15:12] <fuser> oerheks: but its always there, not dependent on application
[15:12] <nacc> CuChulaind: do you really only have the release pocket enabled?
[15:12] <nacc> CuChulaind: can you pastebin `cat /etc/apt/sources.list` ?
[15:13] <oerheks> fuser, never seen that before, did you install a theme?
[15:13] <fuser> oerheks: anyway I was just confirming that this is unusual. I'm on 17.10 so I've reported this on the dev channel.
[15:13] <CuChulaind> https://dpaste.de/NMUm
[15:13] <fuser> oerheks: no theme
[15:13] <oerheks> ok
[15:14] <nacc> CuChulaind: so you are intentionally being insecure?
[15:15] <CuChulaind> nacc, how so
[15:15] <nacc> CuChulaind: you don't have security updates enabled
[15:15] <nacc> CuChulaind: nor bugfix updates
[15:16] <CuChulaind> AH
[15:16] <nacc> (the latter is not about security, of course)
[15:16] <CuChulaind> so insecure by default then as I didn't change anything since install
[15:16] <nacc> CuChulaind: security is definitely enabled by default, afaik
[15:17] <oerheks> security/updates is enabled, by default
[15:17] <tomreyn> maybe the security repository is enabled but not in this file? show apt-cache policy
[15:17] <tomreyn> ...after apt-get update
[15:18] <nacc> tomreyn: good point
[15:18] <nacc> tomreyn: i was goign off the prior apt-get update output
[15:18] <tomreyn> oh i didnt see that
[15:19] <freakynl> It is enabled by default. I have quite a few servers on 16.04 and all have security updates enabled. Just checked. Also 100% sure I didn't enable them myself
[15:19] <CuChulaind> nacc, which should I uncomment?
[15:19] <oerheks> CuChulaind, open softwarecenter > sources, and enable them there?
[15:19] <CuChulaind> ok
[15:20] <tomreyn> hopefully that'll add the right one
[15:21] <freakynl> He's on server iinm
[15:21] <oerheks> He installed a desktop too..
[15:22] <CuChulaind> updating now :-)
[15:22] <tomreyn> see you in a week!
[15:24] <tomreyn> note that since you never had security patches installed on this system it may have been compromised between when you installed it and now. so an alternative approach to consider is a fresh install with security updates enabled.
[15:27] <svs> hi all. I'm getting this error with apt and I have no idea how to resolve it so that I can do apt-upgrade then: https://dpaste.de/3pOr#L19,20,22,23,24
[15:27] <svs> any ideas, please?
[15:27] <CuChulaind> tomreyn, I just may.
[15:28] <nacc> svs: `dpkg -S /lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so` ?
[15:28] <oerheks> why is that dpaste so hard to read .. ignoring that.
[15:28] <svs> nacc: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so
[15:28] <nacc> svs: then it seems like you or someone installed that file manually from a non-package.
[15:29] <svs> nacc: how? because it says the file doesn't exist: /lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so: ERROR: cannot open `/lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so' (No such file or directory)
[15:30] <nacc> svs: what is "it" in that sentence?
[15:30] <svs> even file or stat commands complain about that
[15:30] <nacc> svs: ok
[15:31] <ioria> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/iptables/filelist
[15:31] <tomreyn> that output is neither from ls, file or stat commands, though
[15:32] <svs> stat: cannot stat '/lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so': No such file or directory
[15:32] <ioria> because it's not fully installed ?
[15:33] <tomreyn> so i guess the file was removed after you last ran apt -f install
[15:33] <svs> I ran apt -f a few times, yes.
[15:34] <tomreyn> svs: run: sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install now.
[15:34] <tomreyn> whats the output of both commands?
[15:36] <tomreyn> !paste | svs
[15:36] <svs> this is the output: https://dpaste.de/o9bN
[15:38] <tomreyn> hmm where does this come from? sudo: unable to resolve host ROCONSTA-RO
[15:39] <tomreyn> i'm not even sure which of the two commands produced this output
[15:39] <svs> I can type them separately
[15:39] <tomreyn> is this something you configured?
[15:40] <svs> not at all
[15:40] <svs> that's the system name
[15:40] <tomreyn> if the system cannot resolve itsown hostname you should fix this first
[15:41] <svs> the sudo command generates it
[15:41] <tomreyn> !hostname
[15:42] <svs> fixed that. I edited the /etc/hosts file
[15:42] <tomreyn> so if you run the commands again, this waninf is no longer printed?
[15:43] <svs> nope
[15:43] <oerheks> sudo snap install pulsemixer
[15:44] <tomreyn> svs: now: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/iptables_1.6.0-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[15:44] <tomreyn> this will probably fail with the same message we saw before
[15:44] <svs> tomreyn: https://dpaste.de/0opN -- same error
[15:45] <svs> the thing is that apt can't install anything in this state
[15:46] <ioria> svs, you can try to force-overwrite, not sure about the outcome, tho
[15:46] <svs> ioria: how to do that?
[15:47] <ioria> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  bla
[15:48] <svs> I just tried it. same error....
[15:48] <svs> this is really odd
[15:48] <alkisg> svs: remove that file and then install the package
[15:48] <svs> alkisg: that file does not exist
[15:48] <alkisg> Maybe it's a symlink or something
[15:49] <alkisg> svs, `ls -l /lib/xtables/libipt_TTL.so` returns nothing?
[15:49] <alkisg> Is there a directory there?
[15:49] <svs> not even the directory
[15:49] <svs> https://dpaste.de/Dtj2
[15:49] <ioria> svs, also  paste  ls  /lib/xtables/libipt_*
[15:50] <svs> ls: cannot access '/lib/xtables/libipt_*': No such file or directory
[15:50] <svs> ls: cannot access '/lib/xtables': No such file or directory
[15:51] <svs> the fact that the file is not there and it complains it exists is what baffles me
[15:51] <tomreyn> 2014?
[15:51] <tomreyn> pretty old
[15:52] <alkisg> svs: how did you end up with removed iptables package?
[15:52] <tomreyn> sudo dpkg-divert --list | pastebinit
[15:52] <svs> I removed it because it complained about the same error
[15:52] <svs> I thought dependencies would go off
[15:52] <alkisg> Yeah, removing iptables probably removed a hell lot of other packages
[15:53] <Aireil> Hello here :) I have a little problem with my dual boot Windows - Ubuntu. If I boot on the Windows disk, it cannot find GRUB and just says "No such device", if I boot on the Ubuntu disk, GRUB opens, Ubuntu opens fine too, but Windows doesn't boot (No such device with the GRUB theme). If Anybody knows why, thank you :c
[15:53] <Zeljko> someone help ?
[15:53] <Zeljko> ./Ampps: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:54] <ioria> svs, dpkg -l ubuntu-standard
[15:54] <EriC^^> Aireil: are you in ubuntu right now?
[15:54] <svs> ioria: https://dpaste.de/CPns
[15:54] <Aireil> EriC^^: Yes :)
[15:54] <alkisg> svs: btw, try to remove the .deb package, in case it's problematic: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/iptables_1.6.0-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb; apt install iptables
[15:54] <Zeljko> someone help ?
[15:55] <ioria> svs, dpkg -l ufw
[15:55] <Aireil> EriC^^: I've done a boot-repair and have the log file if that can help
[15:55] <tomreyn> Zeljko: this channel oly supports ubuntu software
[15:55] <EriC^^> Aireil: type 'sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here
[15:55] <oerheks> Zeljko, more info please, what program causes this, on what ubuntu version?
[15:55] <EriC^^> Aireil: sure that'll be great
[15:55] <Zeljko> Ampps oerheks
[15:55] <Zeljko> tomreyn
[15:55] <Zeljko> im using ubuntu
[15:56] <svs> https://dpaste.de/gYED
[15:56] <svs> nothing works, apparently
[15:57] <ioria> svs, sudo updatedb && locate libipt_TTL.so
[15:57] <Aireil> EriC^^: Here's the command : http://termbin.com/40ij and the repair log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25726801/
[15:57] <alkisg> svs: can you make that dir, mkdir /lib/xtables?
[15:57] <Zeljko> WOULD SOMEONE HELP OR NOT
[15:57] <Zeljko> ?
[15:57] <oerheks> Zeljko, oh, a paid app, ask their forum ? https://www.ampps.com/
[15:57] <svs> alkisg: yes, I tried that as well. I created the directory and touched a file to see if the same error persists
[15:57] <tomreyn> Zeljko: ampps is not in the ubuntu repositories, though. if you are looking for help with it, you will need to explain how you installed Ampps and which ubuntu version you run (lsb_release -sd).
[15:57] <alkisg> svs: did you try rebooting?
[15:57] <oerheks> i really never heard of it before
[15:58] <svs> yes, I even rebooted :-D
[15:58] <Zeljko> tomreyn theres no installation
[15:58] <Zeljko> just download and run
[15:58] <Zeljko> https://www.ampps.com/wiki/Installing_AMPPS_on_Linux
[15:58] <tomreyn> Zeljko: okay, ask their support channel, as oerheks pointed out
[15:58] <Zeljko> For ubuntu: sudo ./Ampps-<version>-<arch>.run
[15:59] <alkisg> svs: do other dpkg -i commands work? install some other deb
[16:00] <svs> no, because of that error
[16:00] <akik> Zeljko: libstdc++6 is the package name for it
[16:00] <Aireil> EriC^^: And another strange thing, if I run my "Windows" disk first (boot priority wise in the bios), it doesn't work, but if I "force" it to boot on it, it works just fine (Windows + Ubuntu)
[16:00] <Aireil> EriC^^: I can "Force it" by pressing a key before entering GRUB etc
[16:01] <EriC^^> Aireil: is windows on the /dev/sdc disk? the 500gb one?
[16:01] <EriC^^> that has linux with it installed?
[16:01] <tomreyn> svs: did you try the command i posted last?
[16:01] <Aireil> EriC^^: No, Windows is on the /dev/sda : 256
[16:02] <tomreyn> sudo dpkg-divert --list | pastebinit
[16:02] <oerheks> Aireil, line 1312 .. The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them.
[16:02] <EriC^^> Aireil: aha
[16:02] <alkisg> svs: so if you run e.g. dpkg -i htop.deb, it tells you that /lib/xtables already exist? That would be very strange...
[16:02] <svs> tomreyn: I'm now running  for $(ls -A1 /var/cache/apt/archives | grep -v iptab); do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/$i; done
[16:02] <svs> let me see what happens
[16:03] <Aireil> oerheks: I'm not sure what it means, I'm a newbie, the GRUB can't find the file? :/
[16:03] <tomreyn> svs: that might not be a good idea, but then your system is already broken. good luck.
[16:04]  * tomreyn bbl
[16:04] <EriC^^> Aireil: that's odd
[16:04] <Aireil> Oh and EriC^^ & oerheks, sometimes the boot works when using Ubuntu disk as boot device, something like 50% chance
[16:04] <oerheks> Aireil, yes, because of the huge nrfs partition at the beginning
[16:05] <oerheks> c/ntfs
[16:05] <Aireil> oerheks: Is there a way to fix this?
[16:05] <EriC^^> Aireil: try sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:06] <Aireil> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/v8rd
[16:07] <EriC^^> that looks good
[16:08] <royal_screwup21> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and trying to upgrade my sublime text editor https://www.sublimetext.com/3 It says I need to download a .tgz file, which I did, but I'm not sure how to proceed
[16:10] <xtron> royal_screwup21, extract it
[16:10] <EriC^^> Aireil: can you maybe manually try grub during the ubuntu times? like use the grub command line to manually put the lines in maybe that gives a clue?
[16:10] <CmonNotAgain> royal_screwup21: There are Ubuntu repos available for Sublime, no need to download tgz
[16:10] <oerheks> royal_screwup21, make it easy on yourself, there is an unofficial PPA for sublime 3
[16:10] <svs> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[16:10] <svs>  unable to restore backup version of '/usr/share/man/man7/PAM.7.gz': File exists
[16:10] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/sublime-text-3
[16:10] <svs> looks like it complains about more files
[16:10] <xtron> royal_screwup21, run the installer
[16:11] <alkisg> royal_screwup21: they say  they have repositories, they are preferred to using the .tgz: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/linux_repositories.html#apt
[16:11] <Aireil> EriC^^: Wich command? I'm on Ubuntu now, not sure what you mean?
[16:11] <EriC^^> Aireil: these are the commands you need to put http://paste.ubuntu.com/25727112/
[16:11] <EriC^^> after you do the set root, try "ls /" to see if it can list the files fine
[16:12] <Aireil> EriC^^: While booting on the Ubuntu disk or Widows' one?
[16:12] <Aireil> Or doesn't matter?
[16:13] <EriC^^> ubuntu one
[16:13] <oerheks> svs, did you sometime add-architecture i386?
[16:13] <Aireil> EriC^^:   I'll try that, be right back, thank you Eric :)
[16:13] <oerheks> + run
[16:14] <EriC^^> Aireil: i think it's a hardware issue of some sort, especially since it's intermittent
[16:14] <svs> oerheks: no. I haven't messed around with apt on this system
[16:14] <EriC^^> Aireil: alright, no problem :)
[16:14] <Aireil> EriC^^: If it can't list the files fine, should I keep going on the commands?
[16:14] <Aireil> EriC^^: So that I know before doing something bad :D
[16:14] <EriC^^> Aireil: well sure maybe that would show the error it usually does, it won't harm
[16:15] <Aireil> Ok, brb :)
[16:15] <royal_screwup21> alkisg: I messed up big time, I followed the instruction on the page, but now I need a license key, which I don't have
[16:15] <oerheks> svs, as i read back i wonder why you want to install iptables manually, not with apt install...
[16:15] <oerheks> so i have no clue what is going wrong
[16:15] <ioria> svs, have you tried    dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq  iptables ?
[16:17] <svs> oerheks: I'm trying anything that could solve this bloody error that is as odd as hell
[16:19] <ioria> svs, try to move it :   mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/iptable*  /tmp/     and then force rm  :  dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq  iptables
[16:23] <Aireil> EriC^^: Back :) It could read the files fine
[16:24] <Aireil> EriC^^: At the end, I got a BOOTMGR is missing
[16:24] <Aireil> But it reads date from the Ubuntu disk, not the Windows one, is it what was intended?
[16:25] <Aireil> date = date
[16:25] <Aireil> date = data* sorry x)
[16:27] <Aireil> EriC^^: Maybe it tries to boot Windows on the Ubuntu disk?
[16:28] <gordonjcp> hello
[16:29] <gordonjcp> I'm running 16.04, and after updating and rebooting earlier my display is stuck at 640x480 - it looks like it's not detecting either of the two monitors plugged in
[16:29] <EriC^^> Aireil: no it shouldn't
[16:29] <Aireil> Oh ok :(
[16:30] <EriC^^> Aireil: did you put set root='hd0,mdos1' ?
[16:30] <gordonjcp> it appears to be running nouveau, as expected
[16:30] <greyline> hi all
[16:31] <greyline> I have connected a hdd with external case
[16:31] <greyline> what should I do with that to see the files of the hdd?
[16:31] <Aireil> EriC^^: https://i.imgur.com/D4lbnbf.jpg
[16:31] <Aireil> EriC^^: If this is the right writting, yes ^
[16:34] <EriC^^> Aireil: that does not look like the right partition
[16:34] <Aireil> :o
[16:35] <EriC^^> Aireil: try the same commands, using hd1,msdos1
[16:38] <Aireil> EriC^^: Be right back :D
[16:38] <greyline> https://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd
[16:39] <greyline> I would like to use these commands to mount an external hdd, but I'm not even sure if it's an ntfs or not
[16:39] <greyline> what should I do?
[16:39] <alkisg> Plug in your disk, and it should get automounted
[16:40] <greyline> alkisg: it won't automounted
[16:40] <alkisg> greyline: open a terminal and run this command and tell us the output: sudo lsblk --fs
[16:40] <alkisg> !paste
[16:43] <greyline> asdpew: https://pastebin.com/gRM4fbw3
[16:44] <alkisg> greyline: if your disk is sdb/sdb1, it seems unformatted...
[16:45] <greyline> alkisg: well, it's weird, because it was already formatted
[16:45] <alkisg> greyline: sudo parted -l /dev/sdb
[16:46] <alkisg> What's the output of that?
[16:46] <murii_>  Where do I have to put my alias in order to have it saved for the next session?
[16:47] <EriC^^> murii_: ~/.bashrc
[16:47] <murii_> thank you!
[16:47] <EriC^^> np
[16:48] <greyline> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/FzNMHBWL
[16:49] <qswz> how to make ~n be n tilde
[16:49] <qswz> when I type ~ then n
[16:49] <greyline> alkisg: since that sudo parted -l /dev/sdb the hdd gives weird noises
[16:49] <alkisg> greyline: as you can see, /dev/sdb only has a small ms partition there, no ntfs or anything
[16:50] <alkisg> greyline: sounds like a hardware issue then, since parted -l only lists things, it doesn't make your drive make sounds :D
[16:50] <alkisg> `dmesg` and smartctl might give you more info about failed disks...
[16:50] <EriC^^> greyline: try sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:54] <Aireil> EriC^^: Back :D
[16:54] <Aireil> It didn't work this time :o
[16:54] <EriC^^> wb
[16:54] <greyline> alkisg: smartctl says no such device
[16:54] <EriC^^> Aireil: what happened when you tried ls /
[16:54] <Aireil> hd1 cannot get C/H/S values.
[16:55] <EriC^^> aha
[16:56] <Aireil> That's bad? xD
[16:57] <EriC^^> Aireil: nah :P
[16:58] <greyline> EriC^^: smartctl says no such device
[16:58] <EriC^^> Aireil: i think i've found a relevant thread on it, https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1479070.html
[16:58] <EriC^^> Aireil: this is the line where the guy solved it "Just messing around in bios, I turned on all the sata entries and it ended up bios assigning sata-3 to the vista drive! "
[16:59] <Aireil> :o
[16:59] <EriC^^> greyline: does sudo parted -l still show it?
[16:59] <Aireil> "Turn on all sata entries" Is this a thing? ahaha
[16:59] <Aireil> I'll check on my bios
[17:05] <EriC^^> Aireil: yeah, give it a shot
[17:05] <EriC^^> Aireil: check maybe for any loose cables or so if it's easy
[17:06] <Aireil> EriC^^: Wouldn't it be strange if it was a hardware problem? As I never had any issues :o
[17:07] <EriC^^> seems pretty plausible right now
[17:07] <Aireil> Oh and I found this : https://i.imgur.com/OoCQk94.jpg
[17:07] <Aireil> Would it be able to broke everything?
[17:08] <EriC^^> no, that's for network booting, nevermind it
[17:08] <Aireil> Oh ok :D
[17:08] <EriC^^> there's no other options in the bios?
[17:08] <Aireil> Thank you <3
[17:09] <Aireil> I didn't check yet, I'll now, just took a picture when trying the commands ^
[17:10] <alkisg> greyline: what about  "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:18] <greyline> alkisg: termbin.com/drbi
[17:24] <browncheese> hi! I just stumbled across a puzzling situation, for some reason OpenGL loads VMware(drivers?) instead of for my actual GPU, has anybody seen something like this before?
[17:24] <browncheese> and how would I resolve this?
[17:30] <Aireil> Are you there Eric ? :)
[17:33] <EriC^^> Aireil: yeah, any luck?
[17:37] <alkisg> greyline: [ 2004.457848] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 384, async page read ==> bad disk, replace it
[17:37] <alkisg> browncheese: that means it doesn't have hardware 3d drivers and it's using software emulation. Which card?
[17:45] <frostschutz> greyline, seems like a bad cable or underpowered usb to me. keeps disconnecting/reconnecting
[17:46] <browncheese> alkisg: uhm.... integrated something intel...
[17:47] <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 3 VGA
[17:47] <alkisg> This shows the device and the driver in use
[17:47] <analogical> is 17.10 available?
[17:48] <browncheese> alkisg: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b) Subsystem: Dell Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [1028:060a] Kernel modules: i915
[17:48] <browncheese> 00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller [8086:0a0c] (rev 0b)
[17:48] <tgm4883> analogical: not for a few more weeks
[17:49] <browncheese> glxinfo | grep vendor provides me with server glx vendor string: SGI
[17:49] <browncheese> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
[17:49] <browncheese> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[17:49] <browncheese> fwiw
[17:50] <g0tcha> hi, i installed a new ubuntu server vm, gave it a static ip, can get online fine, then i updated, rebooted and now i cant resolve hostnames
[17:50] <g0tcha> but i can ping ips fine
[17:50] <tgm4883> g0tcha: did you setup DNS when you setup the static IP address?
[17:53] <g0tcha> tgm4883: yes, it could work fine, and i updated the OS by downloading the files so it was online
[17:53] <tgm4883> g0tcha: what version of ubuntu?
[17:54] <g0tcha> tgm4883: 16.04 LTS
[17:55] <tgm4883> g0tcha: what's the output of  "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:55] <g0tcha> tgm4883: #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[17:56] <tgm4883> g0tcha: that's the only thing in there?
[17:56] <tgm4883> g0tcha: You don't have any DNS servers listed. how did you setup your static IP address?
[17:56] <g0tcha> tgm4883: yes, the dns servers are set in /etc/networking/interfaces
[17:56] <tgm4883> g0tcha: can you pastebin your interfaces file
[17:57] <tgm4883> g0tcha: and you mean /etc/network/interfaces right?
[17:57] <tgm4883> because /etc/networking/interfaces shouldn't exist
[17:59] <g0tcha> tgm4883: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f46666f552c99c03a170917f8fbbdaee
[18:00] <g0tcha> yes, i meant /etc/network/interfaces
[18:00] <tgm4883> g0tcha: the correct name is "dns-nameservers" not "dns-servers"
[18:00] <oerheks> Put nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf.d/base and run sudo resolvconf -u
[18:00] <tgm4883> oerheks: unnecessary
[18:01] <tgm4883> oerheks: he needs to fix his interfaces file
[18:01] <g0tcha> damn.. i looked at that like 15 times and i still missed it
[18:01] <oerheks> good find
[18:01] <g0tcha> what confused me is that it worked fine before the reboot
[18:01] <g0tcha> yeah, its all good
[18:02] <tgm4883> g0tcha: my guess is that you got a DHCP address which added the DNS servers. You then set the static IP address but that didn't overwrite the DNS servers until you rebooted
[18:04] <g0tcha> tgm4883: most likely, yeah
[18:04] <g0tcha> tgm4883: out of curiosity, what is the best way to restart a network interface with 16.04+ ?
[18:04] <tgm4883> g0tcha: generally I just restart the networking service
[18:05] <cristian_c> usually, systemctl restart networking
[18:05] <cristian_c> (I may be wrong)
[18:05] <g0tcha> tgm4883: how do you do that?
[18:05] <alkisg> browncheese: which ubuntu version and kernel is this? uname -r
[18:05] <tgm4883> service networking restart
[18:05] <g0tcha> cristian_c: thats what i did but i guess it didnt take affect
[18:05] <g0tcha> effect?
[18:05] <cristian_c> systemctl status networking
[18:05] <browncheese> alkisg: ubuntu gnome 17.04 and 4.10.0-37
[18:06] <cristian_c> (for reading status)
[18:07] <cristian_c> you can also type: systemctl restart NetworkManager
[18:07] <g0tcha> cristian_c: NetworkManager is not installed
[18:08] <cristian_c> :O
[18:08] <alkisg> browncheese: at that point: "Kernel modules: i915" it should be saying "kernel drivers in use: i915". Are you using nomodeset or anything else that prevents i915 from getting loaded?
[18:08] <pavlos> there is a dash, Network-Manager
[18:08] <g0tcha> its not installed on a bare metal ubuntu server
[18:08] <cristian_c> I understand
[18:09] <browncheese> alkisg: not afaik.....
[18:10] <alkisg> browncheese: do you have xorg running? Put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[18:11] <browncheese> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/6CNvQZi1
[18:12] <alkisg> browncheese: Eh, do you really have xorg running with that log file?
[18:12] <alkisg> That says "Server terminated with error"?
[18:13] <alkisg> browncheese: maybe you pasted only the last 5 lines, and you attempted to rerun Xorg while it was already running?
[18:13] <alkisg> That would be completely misleading...
[18:14] <cristian_c> g0tcha: I confirm: systemctl restart networking
[18:14] <cristian_c> and check the result by systemctl status networking
[18:17] <browncheese> alkisg: according to ps aux | grep xorg, it is running....
[18:17] <alkisg> browncheese: run: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999, and paste the result here
[18:18] <browncheese> http://termbin.com/1djs
[18:18] <alkisg> browncheese: ls -l /var/log/Xorg.* | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:19] <browncheese> http://termbin.com/orml
[18:20] <alkisg> browncheese: cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:20] <browncheese> http://termbin.com/ravg
[18:21] <browncheese> that logfile is for sure more substantial :P
[18:21] <browncheese> at least in line count
[18:22] <alkisg> browncheese: dpkg -l '*intel*' | grep ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:23] <browncheese> http://termbin.com/3tl4
[18:24] <alkisg> browncheese: what is intel-graphics-update-tool?
[18:24] <alkisg> Maybe you tried to download intel drivers and ended up breaking them?
[18:25] <alkisg> Intel drivers come bundled with the linux kernel...
[18:25] <browncheese> a tool to update the propietary intel drivers as far as I have understood it, and it is quite possible.... everything was working smoothly the other day but booted up today and it was borked
[18:25] <alkisg> browncheese: that's one of the things you should mention when asking for help about drivers :)
[18:25] <qswz> is it really worth to run intel drvers?
[18:25] <qswz> in term of perf
[18:26] <alkisg> Try to follow any uninstallation instructions they might have
[18:26] <browncheese> alkisg: lesson learned :) and its puzzling, it was running nicely after updating and booting the machine and then it all of a sudden shat itself
[18:27] <alkisg> browncheese: we can't debug proprietary third drivers programs here though
[18:27] <browncheese> fully understandable :)
[18:27] <alkisg> Puzzling sure, but a matter for their devs..
[18:27] <browncheese> all I seek is to get stuff working :)
[18:27] <alkisg> Try uninstalling it
[18:29] <browncheese> also I have to say! termbin was a neat tool!
[18:29] <browncheese> alrighty, brb rebooting
[18:37] <browncheese> hmmmm.... glxinfo doesn't seem to give any different output
[18:40] <browncheese> I have been thinking of doing a clean install of this machine for a while.... its been fiddled with for too long :P
[18:42] <pankaj_> The ubuntu documentation is very nice. Is their any book printed on the documentation so that I can get a hard copy?
[18:43] <oerheks> html or pdf ? https://help.ubuntu.com/
[18:50] <pankaj_> oerheks: Is their any book available. It will be awesome if yes
[18:50] <oerheks> pankaj_, not like this manual, for download. maybe in the shops..
[18:50] <pankaj_> oerheks: Thanks
[18:52] <oerheks> btw this manual gets updated, a book not.
[18:52] <onla> How can I find out why audio not working on firefox since one month or so but works on chrome.. on flash video.. or pornhub.com to be precise
[18:53] <browncheese> onla: 10 honesty points for you!
[18:53] <onla> thanks :)
[18:54] <oerheks> Firefox 52 comes built-in with pulseaudio as default sound output. So on a system with alsa only, install pavucontrol
[18:54] <oerheks> * as of
[18:54] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/666041/firefox-doesnt-play-audio
[18:57] <onla> thanks! solved
[19:17] <Ak1ra> Hi! It's possible to boot ubuntu cd from an usb external cd-rom or is usb boot restricted to pen drives?
[19:18] <Lehthanis> hey all...is this a good place for server questions or is there a different channel for that?
[19:18] <oerheks> Ak1ra, if your bios allows booting from usb, sure you can
[19:18] <Ak1ra> oerheks great, thank you! :)
[19:19] <oerheks> Lehthanis, you can ask here, of the dedicated channel #ubuntu-server
[19:19] <Lehthanis> I'll start here then oerheks thanks!
[19:19] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:19] <Lehthanis> I have a dedicated server with a raid1 array mounted as /mnt/md0/
[19:19] <Lehthanis> I want to make that the /home mountpoint with as little disruption as possible...is that possible?
[19:22] <stefan_> bonjour je recherche de l aide pour installer TOR sur un NAS synologie
[19:23] <genii> !fr
[19:30] <qswz> pas de problèmes
[19:30] <qswz> !es
[19:31] <qswz> disculpame
[19:31] <tomreyn> !fr
[19:31] <qswz> too scared to trigger !de
[19:33] <qswz> can't believe some devs can't speak English nowadays
[19:33] <aloo_shu> can't believe so many can't speak *but* english.
[19:34] <oerheks> guys this is technical support only, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, thanks.
[19:35] <aloo_shu> jet puis dire en francais que tu es un ignorant, puedo hacer lo mismo en castellano, und wenn Du Deine Ignoranz nicht siehst, auf deutsch auch
[19:35] <aloo_shu> wasn't me who started it, oerheks
[19:35] <ioria> aloo_shu, please, not here
[19:37] <ioria> another one
[19:40] <qswz> well the channel is silent
[19:40] <Thyriaen> i just inserted an USB stick but it does not get listed in fdisk -l what am i doing wrong ? :/
[19:41] <ioria> Thyriaen, sudo parted -l ?
[19:41] <Ben64> Thyriaen: what does dmesg say after you put the usb in
[19:41] <Thyriaen> ioria no output for my usb stick either
[19:42] <ioria> Thyriaen, as Ben64 said,  unplug, replug  dmesg | tail
[19:42] <genii> Could either be USB3 only and you put it in a USB2 port, or borked
[19:42] <Thyriaen> why do i grep for tail ?
[19:43] <Thyriaen> cause i get no output
[19:43] <ioria> Thyriaen, guess
[19:43] <Thyriaen> if i grep for usb its quite messy
[19:43] <genii> You don't grep for tail. You pipe the output of dmesg into the tail utility to only show the last lines of dmesg output
[19:43] <nacc> Thyriaen: I don't believe anyone told you to grep for tail.
[19:44] <ioria> Thyriaen, no one asked for that
[19:44] <Thyriaen> oh lol :p
[19:45] <Thyriaen> https://hastebin.com/egalatimaw.cs
[19:47] <Thyriaen> ioria, any ideas ?
[19:48] <ioria> Thyriaen, usb3 ?
[19:48] <oerheks> broken usb ..
[19:48] <Thyriaen> ioria, yeath - i tried putting it in both usb3 or usb2
[19:48] <qswz> and the usb key is?
[19:48] <nacc> Thyriaen: is this a laptop? is it plugged in?
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Thyriaen: Connecting via a hub device ?
[19:49] <Thyriaen> Bashing-om, its a frontal panal of my pc
[19:49] <nacc> my experience with usb issues like this is either broken hardware or power issues (buggy mainboards)
[19:49] <Thyriaen> nacc, no laptop
[19:49] <nacc> Thyriaen: ok
[19:49] <Thyriaen> oerheks, i dont believe its broken - i just installed my os from it
[19:49] <nacc> Thyriaen: you've tried it on the back panel too?
[19:49] <qswz> I often have to plug/unplug 3 times to connect my android cable
[19:49] <Thyriaen> nacc, yea
[19:50] <ioria> Thyriaen, where is plugged ?
[19:51] <cristian_c> hi
[19:52] <Thyriaen> ioria, i tried all slots :)
[19:54] <oerheks> try it on an other machine, maybe you just broke it
[19:54] <Thyriaen> oerheks, booting my laptop atm
[19:54] <cristian_c> when I use mozplugger in midori (and other browsers), opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead
[19:54] <Thyriaen> oerheks, usb stick gets detected on my laptop
[19:55] <cristian_c> How could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files with this plugin?
[19:55] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:55] <nacc> cristian_c: wouldn't that be a question for mozplugger?
[19:56] <cristian_c> nacc: how could I fix the issue?
[19:58] <oerheks> there is also #midori here on #freenode..
[19:59] <nacc> cristian_c: I don't know, but it doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem (necessarily) if some plugin is buggy
[19:59] <cristian_c> oerheks: ok, but I've encountered that issue on all the browsers
[20:00] <cristian_c> nacc: no problem, I've not got it outside from official repositories
[20:00] <cristian_c> *every
[20:00] <oerheks> midori is in our repos, but that pdf plugin i cannot find..
[20:00] <cristian_c> oerheks: I mean mozplugger package
[20:01] <oerheks> all browsers? chrome gives a nice pdf plugin, maybe it is the pdf that is funky?
[20:01] <cristian_c> oerheks: I mean about 'there is also #midori here on #freenode'
[20:02] <cristian_c> it doesn't happen just on midori browser
[20:02] <cristian_c> sorry
[20:03] <oerheks> give us an example of that 'embedded pdf'.. it is just a pdf that shows in your browser, AFAIK
[20:03] <cristian_c> oerheks: btw, it happens with all pdf files I've found
[20:03] <cristian_c> *tried
[20:04] <oerheks> maybe you cannot use arrows, just [tab] ?
[20:04] <cristian_c> oerheks: mozpkugger embeds several types of files, included pdf, when the browser doesn0t have a related plugin (it happens also with other files extensions)
[20:06] <cristian_c> oerheks: ok, if I download the pdf and I open it with evince, keyboard keys work, if I open the pdf embedded in the browser, it doesn0t
[20:06] <cristian_c> this issue doesn't affect mouse wheel scrolling, oddly
[20:09] <qswz> and on chrome?
[20:10] <cristian_c> qswz: it works if I use chrom with its own pdf plugin
[20:10] <cristian_c> pdf plugin works only on chrome (I believe firefox doesn't)
[20:10] <qswz> pdf viewers are not internal
[20:10] <qswz> now*
[20:10] <cristian_c> :O
[20:11] <qswz> I mean you don't have to use any plugin
[20:11] <qswz> uninstall tem
[20:11] <qswz> get a recent firefox or chrom(e|ium)
[20:11] <qswz> and profit
[20:11] <cristian_c> qswz: I've already tried, and when I ckick on pdf in browser, it downloads it in Downloads folder (or /tmp, it depends)
[20:13] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/2PFWTCG
[20:13] <Zeljko> Someone can tell me whats the prob
[20:14] <qswz> the .pdf is weird maybe
[20:14] <qswz> you can share it?
[20:15] <cristian_c> qswz: no problem, I've tried with many pdf files
[20:15] <cristian_c> so, if I use mozplugger with whatever pdf, I exoerience that issue
[20:16] <oerheks> Zeljko, there is no issue, "mysql-server is already the newest" .. and >> Try 'apt-get -f install'
[20:16] <cristian_c> and if I try to clic on pdf url, it downloads it to /tmp
[20:16] <oerheks> i love linux error messages, they always give a clue ...
[20:16] <Zeljko> cristian_c
[20:16] <Zeljko> error again
[20:16] <cristian_c> Zeljko: maybe, you0ve some issues with ketnel installation
[20:16] <Zeljko> maybe its a prob: /dev/mapper/vg-lv_root   19G   16G  1.9G  90% /
[20:16] <Zeljko> :/
[20:17] <Zeljko> i dunno why is all memory used
[20:17] <cristian_c> it0s 4.4, so I believe you're using 16.04 (not updated)
[20:17] <oerheks> Zeljko, no, then you would read not enough space ..
[20:17] <cristian_c> 16.04.1
[20:17] <Zeljko> i cant update it
[20:17] <Zeljko> because i have servers opened :/
[20:18] <Zeljko> i cant shut it down
[20:18] <cristian_c> sorry, 16.04.2
[20:18] <oerheks> Zeljko, not a valid excuse.. you tried to install a server..
[20:18] <nacc> cristian_c: 4.4 is the 16.04.0/1 kernel
[20:18] <nacc> cristian_c: that alone does not tell you if their system is up to date or not
[20:18] <Zeljko> oerheks yes
[20:19] <cristian_c> yeahm sorry, 4.4 -> 16.04.1, 4.8 16.04.2, 4.10 16.04.3
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Zeljko: " sysop@x1604:~$ uname -r >> 4.4.0-97-generic " try and get the system updated .
[20:19] <Zeljko> Bashing-om i cant upgrade because i cant shut down my servers
[20:19] <alkisg> Zeljko: and what's the output of `sudo apt-get install -f` ?
[20:19] <alkisg> What prohibits you from upgrading without rebooting?
[20:20] <alkisg> (also, not upgrading means security issues, so... server with security issues?!)
[20:20] <Zeljko> however i cant reboot
[20:20] <Ben64> also, server that "can't" reboot? sounds like a bad choice
[20:20] <alkisg> And the output of sudo apt-get install -f?
[20:20] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/08FT9A1
[20:20] <Zeljko> output.
[20:21] <alkisg> (No space left on device)
[20:21] <Zeljko> how to free up space ?
[20:21] <alkisg> I think that's obvious then
[20:21] <Zeljko> i dont know why
[20:21] <nacc> it tells you how
[20:21] <nacc> line 21
[20:21] <cristian_c> root@irc? O.o
[20:21] <EriC^^> Zeljko: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:22] <alkisg> It's the freenode server :P
[20:22] <Ben64> probably won't work since it's trying to configure a package though?
[20:22] <cristian_c> Zeljko: no privste messages, coul you write in channel, please?
[20:22] <cristian_c> :)
[20:22] <Zeljko> EriC^^: it would not reboot serv ?
[20:22] <nacc> Ben64: yeah, might need a removal first of the one it's tryign to isntall
[20:22] <EriC^^> Zeljko: no just remove packages
[20:22] <nacc> sorry for the typos :)
[20:22] <Ben64> Zeljko: you do need to reboot on occasion though
[20:22] <Zeljko> error again
[20:22] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/3F8WKEP
[20:23] <alkisg> Zeljko: sudo apt-get clean; df -h ==> output?
[20:23] <Zeljko> 2.2gb lol
[20:23] <EriC^^> Zeljko: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic
[20:23] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/0Y46B2S
[20:23]  * cristian_c doesn0t know if autoclean+autoremove+clean do the trick
[20:23] <Zeljko> EriC^^ i dont want to upgrade
[20:24] <EriC^^> Zeljko: mind sharing dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii ?
[20:24] <Zeljko> because i cant reboot my machine
[20:24] <nacc> EriC^^: and probably the linux-image-generic metapackage
[20:24] <alkisg> Zeljko: the main problem is in /boot
[20:24] <EriC^^> Zeljko: just purging
[20:24] <Ben64> Zeljko: you need to reboot
[20:24] <Zeljko> Ben64
[20:24] <Zeljko> i dont want
[20:24] <Ben64> Zeljko:
[20:24] <Ben64> you need to
[20:24] <Zeljko> forget it man
[20:24] <nacc> EriC^^: i've helped people through this before, you unwedge the metapackages and then rewedge them :)
[20:24] <Zeljko> i cant reboot
[20:24] <Ben64> without rebooting you're stuck on an old, vulnerable kernel
[20:24] <Zeljko> never mind
[20:24] <Zeljko> just give me an example
[20:24] <Ben64> why can't you reboot
[20:24] <Zeljko> to free up my memory
[20:24] <nacc> Zeljko: so you don't care that your server is insecure?
[20:24] <Zeljko> i have many servers opened
[20:24] <nacc> it's *not* memory
[20:25] <nacc> Zeljko: your disk is full
[20:25] <nacc> Zeljko: you've been told how to free up disk space
[20:25] <Zeljko> HOW TO FREE UP
[20:25] <Zeljko> i aksed u
[20:25] <cristian_c> Zeljko: doctor who doesn0t want to regenerate himself, but he has to do it. So, you should updste ubuntu on server :P
[20:25] <Zeljko> Yes
[20:25] <Zeljko> without reseting
[20:25] <Ben64> Zeljko: chill out, why can't you reboot
[20:25] <nacc> Zeljko: but are choosinng to ignore what you were told.
[20:25] <Zeljko> forget about rebooting
[20:25] <Ben64> no
[20:25] <Zeljko> just give me an example to free up
[20:25] <EriC^^> Zeljko: the stuff mentioned doesn't reset anything
[20:25] <Ben64> forget about forgetting about rebooting, why can you not reboot
[20:25] <Zeljko> EriC^^ i cant listen 10 people
[20:25] <EriC^^> Zeljko: you have some apt issues
[20:26] <Zeljko> than what to do now
[20:26] <Zeljko> ?
[20:26] <Ben64> why can't you reboot
[20:26] <Zeljko> I told u
[20:26] <EriC^^> Zeljko: try dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[20:26] <Ben64> no you didn't
[20:26] <alkisg> Rebooting or not, /boot is full and will be still full unless he removes a few kernels
[20:26] <Zeljko> EriC^^ and ?
[20:26] <EriC^^> Zeljko: paste it
[20:26] <cristian_c> alkisg: yeah
[20:27] <Ben64> Zeljko: i could tell you how to free space if you'd answer my question
[20:27] <Zeljko> EriC^^
[20:27] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/2NCWRNY
[20:27] <quesker> my ubuntu has vixie cron I think.  can you set the PATH in crontab for all scripts somehow?
[20:27] <nacc> EriC^^: iirc, you have to remove linux-generic and linux-image-generic as well, in order for the underlyinng package to be removed (and then once /boot is cleaned up, reinstall those metpackages)
[20:28] <Ben64> nacc: not necessary
[20:28] <alkisg> uname -r to see the running kernel, and dpkg --purge all the others... no need to involve metapackages
[20:28] <alkisg> (and leave the newest one too, of course)
[20:29] <EriC^^> Zeljko: ^ as alkisg said
[20:29] <EriC^^> what does uname -r give?
[20:29] <cristian_c> and 'rc' orphan configurations (after removed packages)
[20:29] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/1NVF836
[20:29] <Zeljko> 4.4.0-34-generic
[20:30] <Ben64> so you have rebooted before
[20:30] <cristian_c> now, 4.4.0-87
[20:31] <Zeljko> and what now ? :S
[20:31] <EriC^^> Zeljko: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-{81,83}-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-{79,81,83}-generic
[20:31] <nacc> Ben64: ok
[20:31] <Ben64> Zeljko: did you know your kernel is over a year old
[20:32] <Ben64> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_4.4.0-97.120/changelog
[20:32] <Ben64> check out all the bugs you're vulnerable to
[20:32] <Zeljko> EriC^^: no reboot
[20:32] <EriC^^> yes, no reboot
[20:33] <Ben64> no, yes reboot
[20:33] <Zeljko> EriC^^ error again
[20:33] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/25NV5ZN
[20:33] <Ben64> i'm telling you, i could show you how to free space if you'd answer my question
[20:33] <Zeljko> Ben64 what ?
[20:33] <Ben64> why can't you reboot
[20:34] <Zeljko> i have too many opened servers
[20:34] <Zeljko> and i cant stop it
[20:34] <Ben64> re-open them
[20:34] <Zeljko> Nope
[20:34] <Ben64> yep
[20:34] <Zeljko> nope
[20:34] <cristian_c> O.o
[20:34] <Ben64> your server is VULNERABLE
[20:35] <Zeljko> never mind
[20:35] <Ben64> are you intentionally being this dense
[20:35] <EriC^^> Zeljko: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-{81,83}-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-{79,81,83}-generic linux-image-generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-generic
[20:35] <Zeljko> im not here to secure my serv
[20:35] <Ben64> then just leave it alone
[20:35] <Ben64> it's fine how it is
[20:35] <Zeljko> EriC^^: errors
[20:35] <nacc> EriC^^: you're missing 87
[20:35] <EriC^^> can you paste?
[20:35] <Ben64> why even do any updates ever
[20:35] <Ben64> just leave it to the bots trolling the internet
[20:35] <EriC^^> Zeljko: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-{81,83}-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-{79,81,83-87}-generic
[20:35] <EriC^^> sorry
[20:35] <nacc> EriC^^: which is, afaict, the only one you need to remove, then autoremove will work
[20:36] <nacc> (or use dpkg as others have suggested)
[20:36] <EriC^^> Zeljko: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-{81,83}-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-{79,81,83,87}-generic linux-image-generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-generic
[20:36] <Zeljko> wait
[20:36] <nacc> Zeljko: why are you freeing up space in /boot for a server you do't reboot?
[20:37] <Zeljko> nacc because i need more space for my user accounts
[20:37] <nacc> Zeljko: so you installed your server incorrectly
[20:37] <Zeljko> my servers arent on root
[20:37] <nacc> Zeljko: meaning you have one filesystem?
[20:37] <Zeljko> yes
[20:37] <Zeljko> EriC^^
[20:37] <Zeljko> errors
[20:37] <nacc> right, so be a better sysadamin.
[20:38] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/0ASEYZY
[20:38] <cristian_c> Zeljko: your 'pastebin' url tells you are logged as 'root' user
[20:38] <Zeljko> cristian_c yes
[20:41] <Zeljko> EriC^^
[20:42] <oerheks> Zeljko, freeing space is oke, then you would need to boot from a live iso to change partitions, but you don't want to stop your server.
[20:42] <EriC^^> Zeljko: try sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic
[20:43] <EriC^^> as nacc and alkisg said it might work
[20:43] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/3DR14DJ
[20:43] <EriC^^> Zeljko: you were saying you don't have a separate /boot partition?
[20:44] <Zeljko> i dont know
[20:44] <alkisg> df -h said he does
[20:44] <alkisg> Zeljko: what's the output of this now? dpkg -l '*linux*'
[20:44] <nacc> EriC^^: i think you meant the -extra package
[20:44] <alkisg> And the (new) output of: df -h
[20:44] <EriC^^> Zeljko: typo, try sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic
[20:44] <EriC^^> nacc: yes, thanks :)
[20:44] <Zeljko> EriC^^
[20:44] <Zeljko> i gave u an output
[20:45] <Zeljko> ignoring request
[20:45] <EriC^^> Zeljko: i had a typo in it, run the last one
[20:45] <Zeljko> still same
[20:45] <Zeljko> ignoring request to remove.....
[20:46] <alkisg> (11:44:07 μμ) alkisg: Zeljko: what's the output of this now? dpkg -l '*linux*'; df -h
[20:47] <cristian_c> maybe, grrp
[20:47] <cristian_c> * | grep
[20:47] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/19VWG9R
[20:47] <cristian_c> (if used with - l option)
[20:48] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/2MQRST9
[20:48] <cristian_c> sorry, my bad
[20:48] <alkisg> Progress, you started removing things :)
[20:48] <cristian_c> I forgot * wildcard
[20:49] <alkisg> Zeljko: this one, because the last one got delimited?   dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep -v ^un
[20:49] <oerheks> dpaste sucks, unreadable .. sorry, cannot help
[20:49] <cristian_c> Zeljko: you have a very large amount of 4.4.0-* kernels
[20:49] <Zeljko> cristian_c and ?
[20:49] <nacc> Zeljko: lol, so you undnersatnd that removing kernels won't free up any space in /home
[20:50] <Zeljko> what to do finally now
[20:50] <Zeljko> would someone tell me
[20:50] <nacc> Zeljko: as you have a separate partition for /
[20:50] <Zeljko> i dont know
[20:50] <Zeljko> i told u
[20:50] <alkisg> Zeljko: give the output for the last command, dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep -v ^un
[20:50] <Zeljko> im not familiar with ubuntu
[20:50] <Psil0Cybin> well ubuntu is debian based Zeljko.
[20:50] <Ben64> Zeljko: then why ignore people when they say you should reboot, and that your server is vulnerable
[20:51] <Zeljko> https://pastebin.com/ZhDx1azk
[20:51] <Zeljko> Ben64 leave me alone
[20:51] <Ben64> you can leave
[20:51] <Zeljko> i dont need your help, thanks
[20:51] <Ben64> looks like you do actually
[20:52]  * oerheks mumbles apt-get autoremove
[20:52] <cristian_c> oerheks: I use dpaste.de  often (not dpaste.com), because pastebin.com uses many many captcha trivia/quizes, before i ca  finally paste the code/output
[20:52] <cristian_c> *before I can
[20:52] <Zeljko> and ?????
[20:52] <axldmg> Hey, just a word as trial for my first src registration and connection
[20:52] <oerheks> cristian_c, i understand, if ou login, paste.ubuntu.com lets you remove pastes too
[20:53] <leftyfb> hey guys, mind me taking a crack at helping Zeljko ?
[20:53] <cristian_c> oerheks: I think so :)
[20:53] <leftyfb> Zeljko: I missed one part, which kernel are you currently running?
[20:53] <Zeljko> leftyfb
[20:54] <Zeljko> 16.04
[20:54] <leftyfb> no
[20:54] <leftyfb> Zeljko: uname -a
[20:54] <alkisg> Zeljko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25728469/
[20:54] <Zeljko> Linux irc.balkanirc.us.to 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:54] <leftyfb> ok, 4.4.0-34
[20:54] <leftyfb> just a sec
[20:54] <axldmg> Glad to help Zeljko if I can... what's the issue?
[20:54] <Zeljko> alkisg :please wait
[20:55] <leftyfb> uh
[20:55] <leftyfb> you're running 34, yet you don't have that kernel in /boot?
[20:55] <Zeljko> I dont know :)
[20:55] <leftyfb> Zeljko: ls -l /boot/vm*
[20:55] <Zeljko> wait
[20:55] <Zeljko> im doing what alkisg gave to me
[20:56] <leftyfb> it won't work
[20:56] <leftyfb> you don't have enough space in /boot
[20:56] <alkisg> leftyfb: don't confuse him more, he's had enough so far...
[20:56] <alkisg> Give me 1 min
[20:56] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[20:56] <leftyfb> I can help you clean up space, install the kernel it's trying to install, then clean up more space
[20:56] <binarydepth> Anyone knows how to resize an F2FS partition? 17.04
[20:56] <oerheks> leftyfb, he already does, with alkisg help
[20:57] <oerheks> !info resize.f2fs
[20:57] <Zeljko> alkisg its done, but as i can see any errors again
[20:57] <leftyfb> except alkisg suggested purging kernels, if it's still erroring with broken .... see
[20:57] <alkisg> He has 4 issues, /boot space, apt broken, /home space, and server reboots.Let's at least solve the 2 first, and when his mind gets off those, give him advice for the two laters
[20:57] <oerheks> resize.f2fs is part of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/resize.f2fs.8.html
[20:57] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/3WNFJKP
[20:58] <leftyfb> alkisg: no amount of typing purge is going to work
[20:58] <binarydepth> it is http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/resize.f2fs.8.html
[20:58] <alkisg> Zeljko: ok, and now what's the output of df -h ? More space on boot?
[20:58] <binarydepth> !info f2fs-tools
[20:58] <Zeljko> alkisg:http://dpaste.com/1D4YR2B
[20:59] <Zeljko> little more
[20:59] <oerheks> binarydepth, Current version only supports expanding the prebuilt filesystem.
[20:59] <binarydepth> with gparted?
[21:00] <leftyfb> actually, those last errors have nothing to do with freeing yp space
[21:00] <leftyfb> up*
[21:00] <binarydepth> oerheks with gparted?
[21:00] <oerheks> binarydepth, no with resize.f2fs
[21:00] <alkisg> Zeljko: http://paste.debian.net/plain/990489
[21:00] <binarydepth> expanding is what I need
[21:00] <binarydepth> to take free space
[21:01] <alkisg> leftyfb: yes, he has various unconfigured packages in apt, not just kernels
[21:01] <alkisg> apt install -f will come after freeing up space in /boot
[21:01] <binarydepth> oerheks expanding is what I need
[21:01] <binarydepth> oerheks to take free space
[21:01] <Zeljko> alkisg
[21:01] <Zeljko> ignoring request for all
[21:01] <alkisg> It may show other mysql postinst issues or whatever
[21:01] <binarydepth> oerheks but the man page says the size must be set in sectors
[21:02] <binarydepth> oerheks how am I going to deal with sectors?
[21:02] <alkisg> Zeljko: so now what's the output of this? dpkg -l '*linux*' | grep -v ^un; ls /boot
[21:02] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/3FSQCBH
[21:03] <alkisg> See also the "ls /boot" there
[21:04] <binarydepth> oerhek I need to add 110371 MB to the partition, it's after it as free space
[21:04] <oerheks> binarydepth, as the manual gives: resize.f2fs -t <sectors> /dev/sdXY
[21:04] <Zeljko> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/1W681Y2
[21:04] <oerheks> where secors is the new number of sectors, not the amount of sectors to grow
[21:04] <alkisg> Zeljko: ok, now run this: sudo apt install -f. If it fails, we need *all* the output, not just the last lines.
[21:04] <binarydepth> And can I calculate that? there's no way to knwo tha
[21:05] <binarydepth> KB -> MB -> GB
[21:05] <Zeljko> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/2EAVK7B
[21:06] <binarydepth> oerheks And how can I calculate that? there's no way to know that
[21:07] <alkisg> Zeljko: run this: sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-generic
[21:07] <alkisg> It won't fix the mysql issue,but you do need the metapackages you've removed, which will pull the latest kernel too
[21:07] <oerheks> binarydepth, lok with your diskmanager, fdisk -l would show
[21:07] <Zeljko> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/0CNWNVM
[21:08] <alkisg> Zeljko: sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[21:09] <Zeljko> errors again
[21:09] <Zeljko> pfff
[21:09] <binarydepth> oerheks Doen't show the sda partitions
[21:09] <Zeljko> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/1DDJTEF
[21:09] <binarydepth> oerheks I did fdisk -l /dev/sda
[21:10] <alkisg> Zeljko: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[21:12] <Zeljko> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/1BB5YM6
[21:13] <kk4ewt> why are you running as root and still using sudo
[21:14] <binarydepth> oerheks so the command would be: sudo f2fs.resize -t 449984512 /dev/sda2
[21:14] <binarydepth> thanks
[21:14] <Zeljko> alkisg what now :)
[21:14] <Ben64> kk4ewt: also why is he running a kernel from last year and refusing to reboot
[21:14] <alkisg> Zeljko: you pasted half of it
[21:14] <alkisg> gene instead of generic
[21:14] <alkisg> Paste all of it
[21:14] <Zeljko> alkisg not
[21:14] <Zeljko> its full tex
[21:14] <Zeljko> its full text
[21:15] <oerheks> binarydepth, good documentation is sparse :-(  .. i read now gparted should be able too, if you have the f2fs tools installed https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326934
[21:15] <leftyfb> Ben64: there's always live kernel patching
[21:15] <alkisg> Zeljko: when you typed the command: sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers-gene
[21:15] <alkisg> It should be: sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[21:15] <Ben64> leftyfb: that would have to be enabled though
[21:15] <leftyfb> yep
[21:16] <alkisg> The kernel isn't the only one that needs restarting, rebooting etc...
[21:16] <alkisg> Even with live kernel patching, reboots are still needed
[21:16] <Zeljko> errors again
[21:16] <Zeljko> damn
[21:16] <Zeljko> stupid linux
[21:17] <alkisg> Zeljko: the mysql error won't go away while doing the kernels
[21:17] <alkisg> It's a separate issue
[21:17] <alkisg> What is the output now?
[21:17] <Zeljko> http://dpaste.com/0K7CSG3
[21:17] <leftyfb> alkisg: what needs rebooting besides the kernel?
[21:17] <Zeljko> no need mysql, i want to run ampps
[21:18] <alkisg> Zeljko: ok, the kernels are done now.
[21:18] <Ben64> Zeljko: what do you think ampps is
[21:18] <Zeljko> alkisg and
[21:18] <Zeljko> Ben64 www.ampps.com
[21:18] <oerheks> maybe stop that K01ampps, before doing stuff.
[21:18] <Ben64> right, if you look on that page it says mysql
[21:19] <Zeljko> alkisg: and what now ?
[21:19] <Ben64> that's what the m is for, so you probably do need mysql for it
[21:19] <alkisg> For mysql, you have this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bug/1592669
[21:19] <Peyam> Hi, is there any way to make a picture of pages of a book look like scanned?
[21:19] <alkisg> Zeljko: You can read there about workarounds, e.g. you could start mysql to allow postinst to continue
[21:19] <leftyfb> Peyam: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu. Try an image editor like gimp.
[21:19] <Zeljko> alkisg
[21:20] <Zeljko> but how to free up my space
[21:20] <Zeljko> ?
[21:20] <Peyam> leftyfb, neither your answer
[21:20] <alkisg> Zeljko: /dev/mapper/vg-lv_root   19G   12G  5.6G  68% / => you have 6 GB available, from 20 GB
[21:20] <Zeljko> just 6gb
[21:20] <Zeljko> lol
[21:21] <Zeljko> its too low
[21:21] <alkisg> Well, check your /home to see where it's used
[21:21] <alkisg> Or wherever you have other services/data
[21:21] <Zeljko> and now i'll can use apt-get install and run apps ?
[21:22] <alkisg> Zeljko: 20 GB is too low for a server too, you could give it 200 GB :)
[21:22] <Zeljko> alkisg
[21:22] <leftyfb> Zeljko: no, mysql is still broken
[21:22] <Zeljko> i have unrealirc server :)
[21:22] <alkisg> Zeljko: not until you read the mysql bug and do the workarounds from there
[21:22] <alkisg> The /boot and kernels issue was solved, but not the mysql one
[21:22] <tgm4883> alkisg: well that depends on the server...
[21:22] <oerheks> rtemove ampps, and try again
[21:22] <Ben64> Zeljko: wow you run ircd on a server with a year old kernel? enjoy getting hacked
[21:22] <oerheks> -t
[21:23] <Ben64> probably running ircd as root too
[21:23] <Zeljko> nope
[21:23] <Zeljko> ircd running from user acc
[21:25] <Zeljko> how to remove dir with files ?
[21:26] <Peyam> Ho can I remove all folders in my system that have the name eclipse?
[21:26] <rdh> rm -rf dir
[21:26] <jeremy31> Zeljko, what directory?
[21:27] <Zeljko> of any apps
[21:27] <Peyam> rdh, does it delete all files in the system with that name?
[21:27] <rdh> no
[21:28] <rdh> current working directory
[21:28] <tgm4883> Geez that just seems like a good way to break things
[21:28] <rdh> if your paranoid, rm -rf ./dir
[21:28] <rdh> ./ <- ensure current directory
[21:28] <Peyam> rdh, ohh sorry I thought it was directed to me. I wan to deleted all folders with a certian name in the system
[21:28] <Ben64> Peyam: why
[21:28] <Peyam> Ben64, just to clean stuff
[21:29] <Ben64> sounds like a terrible idea
[21:29] <tgm4883> "Just to clean stuff" is probably the worst excuse to do anything on a computer
[21:29] <Peyam> Ben64, why?
[21:29] <rdh> Peyam, Oh,
[21:29] <Zeljko> alkisg: and what to do now with ampps ?
[21:29] <rdh> Peyam, you know about wildcards?
[21:29] <Ben64> go around and mindlessly delete every folder matching a name? not smart
[21:29] <Peyam> tgm4883, I don't think cleaning stuf you dont need is a bad idea
[21:29] <Peyam> rdh, no
[21:29] <alkisg> Zeljko: I don't know what ampps is, I only got involved to help with the /boot and kernels issue...
[21:30] <Ben64> how do you know you don't need anything in a folder called eclipse
[21:30] <Zeljko> alkisg thanks for all
[21:30] <binarydepth> oerheks Can you help me calculate the sectors_?
[21:30] <rdh> Peyam, just careful, and play with it until you really grasp it
[21:30] <alkisg> You're welcome
[21:30] <tgm4883> Ben64: +1
[21:30] <Zeljko> now i want to set up mysql server
[21:30] <Peyam> Ben64, I dont use eclipse
[21:30] <Peyam> rdh, never gone wrong
[21:30] <Ben64> how do you know every folder called eclipse is for eclipse the program
[21:30] <rdh> Peyam, http://tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/x11655.htm
[21:30] <Peyam> Ben64, it should be
[21:30] <tgm4883> Peyam: if you don't use eclipse, then why do you have eclipse folders?
[21:30] <Ben64> Peyam: ergo, bad idea
[21:31] <Peyam> tgm4883, I used for a while now I'm cheating with intelij idea
[21:32] <tgm4883> Peyam: how did you install eclipse? How did you remove it?
[21:32] <Peyam> tgm4883, umake
[21:33] <tgm4883> Peyam: because using apt is too mainstream?
[21:33] <Peyam> tgm4883, becouse I wanting the last release. and wanted to try umake people talked about
[21:34] <Peyam> tgm4883, I use 16.04
[21:35] <rdh> Peyam, you know, make usually will have an "make uninstall" option.
[21:36] <rdh> depends on the developers, whats left is usually user configuration files.
[21:36] <Peyam> rdh, umake --remove ide yes. I just wanted to see if it is left anything of it on my system.
[21:37] <Ben64> so do something like 'locate eclipse'
[21:37] <Peyam> never mind. I skip it :_D
[21:37] <rdh> Peyam, well, you can look at the Makefile
[21:38] <Peyam> you are right. I see MATLAB named a lot of files and directories "eclipse"
[21:38] <tgm4883> Peyam: there are ways to delete everything with eclipse in the name, but nobody here wants to risk having you break your system in some unforseen circumstance
[21:38] <tgm4883> well there you go
[21:38] <Peyam> yeah you got me there
[21:38] <Peyam> real in your face moment hhh
[21:47] <rdh> Peyam, you should still learn wildcards ;)
[21:48] <IhrFussel> My OS is VERY slow at writing files...what could cause this? "echo $(date +%s) > file" takes up to 50ms
[21:51] <Peyam> yeah indeed
[21:51] <andrej> Does anyone know where /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00CDMountPoint comes from?  Neither dpkg -S nor apt-file find seem to know it
[22:00] <tgm4883> andrej: based on the name, from install maybe?
[22:06] <oerheks> looks like the mount point of your dvd/cdrom https://github.com/allardhoeve/desktop-config/blob/master/modules/apt/files/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00CDMountPoint
[22:06] <oerheks> from install, i guess, and uncommented afterwards?
[22:20] <Peyam> does anyone know anybrowser excep firefox and chrome that can enable adblock in private browsing?
[22:23] <lostfile> brave i think
[22:23] <lostfile> https://brave.com/
[22:24] <Mathisen> Peyam, opera got it built in also
[22:26] <lostfile> well the brave browser has adblock built in bit i dont know about private browsing
[22:26] <lostfile> but i mean
[22:27] <lostfile> but lately i have been just using chome
[22:27] <lostfile> with ublock
[22:28] <tripelb> re ubuntu touch wifi only on samsung tab2  i found this.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3110  so does this mean ot works? is this the latest? stable? where do I get it? instructions? Thanks.
[22:31] <IhrFussel> Nobody got a clue? My local machine only needs 2-3ms to write to a file but my dedi (both Ubuntu 16.04) takes 10-30ms for the same task
[22:33] <andrej> tgm4883 - I think you're right. I'm just wondering why many of our machines don't have it :)
[22:36] <_Sym_> I got this external samsung ssd drive (T5) and it came with ext-fat on it.  When I goto repartition the drive with fdisk, it wants to make the start sector at 65535.  That seems wrong to me.  If I only want a single ext4 parition on that external drive, would it not be ok to just make the primary parition start at 2048s?
[22:41] <qis> Hi, can you recommend me a good backports-like PPA for Ubuntu 16.04? I need recent versions of common libraries.
[22:41] <qis> zlib, libpng, libjpeg-turbo, etc.
[22:44] <tgm4883> qis: no. PPAs are by definition unsupported. Why do you need recent version of common libraries
[22:48] <qis> tgm4883: Because I use more recent (but already old) macros and functions. png_const_bytep, crc32_z, etc.
[22:48] <qis> I don't need support. I need a trustworthy source.
[22:49] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: Do you have backgrounds writes going on on your "dedi"? (What does "dedi" mean here)?
[22:50] <frontrowalex> Question: has anybody else lost the ability to detect HDMI displays after a recent full apt upgrade in 16.04?
[22:50] <frontrowalex> VGA still works fine
[22:50] <IhrFussel> Jordan_U, dedicated server meaning no need to share my resources with others (like VPS) ... I tried rebooting the machine and stopped the web server but it still takes 10-30ms to write a simple timestamp to a file
[22:55] <gbellinoz> I've done a log of Googling on this but am still stuck - how do I stop apparmor from spamming my logs with ALLOWED messages?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: How are you measuring the time taken?
[22:56] <IhrFussel> With the time command ... I created a S.M.A.R.T report ... can anyone tell me if those values are bad/critical? https://pastebin.com/v5rz1LT6
[22:58] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: Timing the execution of echo?
[22:59] <IhrFussel> Jordan_U, yes and it reports 2ms on my local machine, so I wonder why it's 10-30 on my dedi
[23:00] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: I would expect it to be 0ms for both, as I get on my machine.
[23:02] <frostschutz> IhrFussel, run a long selftest on it, see if it passes
[23:03] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: Do you use any non-standard mount options?
[23:03] <IhrFussel> I use noatime
[23:10] <IhrFussel> Jordan_U, noatime can't cause this right?
[23:10] <binarydepth> I need help installing grub in chroot. I was asked by the kernel installation.
[23:10] <binarydepth> I'm installing using debootstrap
[23:15] <ignoo> hello running ubuntu-gnome 16.04.1 AMD64 have an issue with compiling a file because ./config command does not work..maybe i'm doing something wrong ?
[23:16] <ignoo> *issue with compiling a package
[23:16] <ignoo> or maybe missing something?
[23:17] <ignoo> I already did: sudo apt install autoconf and sudo apt install libtool-bin
[23:20] <ignoo> anyone? please understand i'm not so experienced with ubuntu-gnome..so i supposed ./configure to work, but it says: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory.
[23:21] <ignoo> wich is weird cause configure file is just there.
[23:22] <rdh> ignoo, what software are you trying to compile
[23:23] <ignoo> is that relevant? well torsocks .
[23:23] <ignoo> ^_^
[23:23] <rdh> yea
[23:23] <ignoo> just wanted to try that to proxy applications for better security.
[23:24] <rdh> lol im not judging, i use tails from time to time
[23:24] <ignoo> ye but tails is from flashdrive i just need to use for common applications i use daily..different task.
[23:24] <rdh> ignoo, https://github.com/dgoulet/torsocks  <- the bit where it says... "If you are compiling it from the git repository, run ./autogen.sh before the configure script."
[23:25] <ignoo> #!/bin/sh
[23:25] <ignoo> set -x
[23:25] <ignoo> if [ ! -e config ]; then
[23:25] <ignoo> 	mkdir config
[23:25] <ignoo> fi
[23:25] <ignoo> autoreconf -i
[23:26] <Jordan_U> IhrFussel: noatime will prevent writes while reading, and won't have any effect writing so that's not the problem. odirect definitely would.
[23:26] <rdh> ignoo, mmhm
[23:26] <ignoo> eheh
[23:26] <ignoo> sorry.
[23:26] <rdh> README's and INSTALL's are your friends
[23:27] <ignoo> i should have pastbinned that sorry for being uneducated.
[23:27] <ignoo> :P
[23:29] <Jordan_U> binarydepth: Are /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ mounted within the chroot?
[23:29] <ignoo> ok it works now. i dunno how I could have been that dumb to have ignored that.. may be because i stayied some time away from linux ;)
[23:30] <ignoo> well thank you rdh, laters
[23:30] <rdh> np
[23:34] <Bray90820> How would I change the mouse pinter speed from the terminal because the system settings don't slow it down enough
[23:36] <gbellinoz> https://askubuntu.com/a/262891/300685
[23:37] <binarydepth> Jordan yes
[23:37] <binarydepth> Jordan_U yes
[23:38] <binarydepth> I have a layout with threee partitions. A /boot / and /home
[23:38] <binarydepth> Shold I pick the / on sda2 and sda ?
[23:38] <binarydepth> Jordan_U