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 @mariogrip What's happening? So excited stalking github and jenkins :)
 @nfsprodriver, now im trying to get mir to do parralel bulding
 @alan_griffiths do you know why mir refuses to use more the one tread to build? parallel=64 is set in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS
 (Old version btw)
 @mariogrip, nevermind, i got it to work. Just me that made a mistake
 @UniversalSuperBox, Is that a strong bad quote!? Lol so glad he's active again.
 @Esc476, Yes. :)
 Haha yesss
 Marius has found the problem
 Mir built so fast that the tests tried to run before gtest was built
 line 3592 make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'gmock/libs/gtest/libgtest.a', needed by 'bin/mir_compositor_performance_test.bin'.  Stop. … later down on line 3972 [ 72%] Linking CXX static library libgtest.a
 I never thought I'd say this
 But the build server is too fast
 LOL
 then, how do i force gtest to build first...
 @mariogrip, hmm, sounds like a missing "depends". the whole gtest setup is dubious. but has to work on a range of cmake versions.
 @alan_griffiths, it depends on GMock, `add_dependencies(mir_glmark2_performance_test GMock)`
 so if i add GTest to that, will that work?
 try it?
 ok
 I've not seen this issue, but sounds like you have better build kit. if you have a fix, I'll take it.
 It's also 0.24 that we're building... Might have been fixed in a newer version
 @alan_griffiths, 64 real arm64 cores 2.8ghz with 124gb ram
 Ooh, it's off again
 http://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/ubports%2Fmir/detail/xenial-7.1-caf-sudoku/5/pipeline
 Wait... did I just see 'abysmal-hack' scroll by?
 seems to be working
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/0T5G4H0N/file_1124.jpg
 takes piss out of Marius for using KDE
 @alan_griffiths, here is the fix https://github.com/ubports/mir/commit/db6cae09b46d903eee0b4d6e5104cef7f2ecbd50 but it's git, should i make one for bzr?
 Yes, 0.24 is a lot of changes into the past. I know we've fixed some build races over time, but not if that's one.
 8m 15s to build mir! that's not bad!
 @mariogrip, I'll try to remember in the morning.
 guys, I lost my nvram when flashing, and now i dont hv mac address. i mean it is being randomly assigned every timw. this screws up the ssh key odentities and DHCP settings. Also imei is random but that doesnt bother me. any way you know would fix the mac address once for all in a persistent way including after reboot?
 @KrisJacewicz, What were you flashing?
 How were you flashing?
 No tool that we have ever touches that stuff.
 just old UT backup, but I accidentally deleted nvram
 no i was not using your tool
 You'll probably need to get your phone repaired by its manufacturer
 i was using engineering software for the chipset
 i just wonder if u know ways pf fixing mac after the damage is already done
 well they wont
 i spoke to them
 there is for sure a way i just need to find out who knows it
 because i dont understand nvram format neither do i onow how to set mac address permanently
 i know how to fix it at runtime though
 @mariogrip, Are you sure this is really a fix? I don't have 0.24 to hand, but "GTest" isn't a target in more recent versions.
 @alan_griffiths, it builds fine with it, it seems to for mir to build libgtest before any of the tests
 Possibly there are changes to gmock you're building on vivid? Or xenial?
 @alan_griffiths, xenial
 that makes sense of a sort. There definitely were changes to gtest/gmock after that (as xenial is what stopped me updating the way we use those frameworks. … Anyway, you have a working fix and I have something to look at once I'm back from the USA.
[02:08] <tgBot> capuya was added by: capuya
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/CjtAM40G/file_1126.jpg Hi! Problem with my OnePlus One, anyone has an idea of that?
 A-ha! I told you it did that, @mariogrip !
 :P
 @capuya, Select device manully
 I click on it but doesn't do anything
 it's a bug since some android version does not use codename `bacon`
 close the program
 unplug device
 then select manully
 the reconnect
 (Video, 5s)https://irc.ubports.com/000DOz6F/file_1127.mp4
 Oh okay! 😊
 @capuya, is this on windows btw?
 Yea, I just had to revive my phone, and had to be on Windows
 @capuya, We still have some bugs and struggles with the installer on windows, since you need to manully install adb and fastboot drivers. this is also one of the reason why it's still in beta. we are still trying to find a good way to install the drivers automaticly
 if you have an mac or linux machine, i think you can get better success with that
 Is it okay if I choose wipe? (Its a fresh install but I don't want to erase some recovery or idk)
 Ohh okay
 So I change to mac to install it then
 @capuya, wipe does not wipe recovery, it just wipes the data partition
 Great
 @capuya, I think that would work better yes
 What a great time, I'm from Argentina and had to go to Paraguay to give some guy my phone that was breave enough to repair the contact of the motherboard of the volume, so then I could flash . Now finally can install ubport 🙌🏼
 :)
 @capuya, I could imagine a movie being made about your determination :D
 Hahahaha maybe a comercial like one on YouTube about java(I think) and .net haha
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/TQM0tmY5/file_1129.jpg I'm on this like several minutes ago, it's ok or I go again? This time on Mac (idk if mac has adb fastboot drivers or idk
 @capuya, Try rebooting the device to recovery manully
 just hold power + vol down
 Hum I think it doesn't have recovery because it was flashed, like with cynagemod, so unrootef and blocked 😑
 (Photo, 360x656) https://irc.ubports.com/yPy1jgM9/file_1131.jpg
 (Photo, 360x658) https://irc.ubports.com/lo0KK9Wo/file_1133.jpg
 I can call it almost done
 (Photo, 361x656) https://irc.ubports.com/bQwB7Vy8/file_1135.jpg
 @samzn, Wow.... discord ?
 ya it sucks but there's a demand for it
 Indeed
 Great work
 (Photo, 362x657) https://irc.ubports.com/5t52hzL8/file_1137.jpg
 (Photo, 361x658) https://irc.ubports.com/MCPI0jUV/file_1139.jpg
 (Photo, 360x643) https://irc.ubports.com/fB0zNomx/file_1141.jpg
 (Photo, 357x640) https://irc.ubports.com/w509HCXG/file_1143.jpg
 should be ready by monday
 @samzn, Very cool. This is a discord "app" for Ubuntu Touch?
 Ya
 Nice work so far :)
 Wow nice!
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/yQeSMOvI/file_1145.jpg Oh while waiting for the backup I could give life again to my old 3Gs love!
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/8SYaqpop/file_1147.jpg Well now it gets on this
 Is bacon supported by the magic device tool? If you have a linux, this tool rocks!
 Maybe I can install it on a simulator, bc I tried but kinda almost corrupt my booting system and always appeared ghost options ha
 Shall I install ubuntutouch manually from where I am?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/aI49WaE0/file_1149.jpg
 Cpt is recommended?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tY0hUGgj/file_1151.jpg Failing me too. Looks like this will be not my time for ubuntu 💔
 I did a small hack on my phone, and now I have slowdown, so I wanted to ask for opinions. … I copied (cp -a) /usr/share to ~/.hdd/share, then I removed the original ind created a symlink: ln -s /home/phablet/.hdd/share /usr/share … Immediately after it all worked like a charm and I gained extra 700 MB of space on my / partition to apt-get install additional stuff. … After restarting the phone though, it now works slowly. More precisely, it 
[05:08] <tgBot> between actions that I do when interacting with the phone: login, open an app, return to home screen, etc. there is some sort of delay, so I need to wait for anywhere from few to approx 30 seconds. Once the delay happens then it behaves normally. Also the boot time became veryt very long. So for example, I am logged in, and I click on Terminal app, the black screen with the icon (loading) shows and the delay takes anywhere up to 30 sec or so. Once it loads, the
[05:08] <tgBot> normal. Then I click home button, delay again (sometimes shorter sometimes longer), but after that works normally. Any idea why that may be? Anything special about moving /usr/share from / to the user space? does the phone have 2 types of memory working at different read/write speeds?
 I have always installed ubports with ubuntu-device-flash, works good.
 @samzn your discord webapp looks really great! Thanks in the name of the community for taking that efford.
 Good morning everyone. Is there any options to change the keyboard layout theme?
 @bastos777, It would be really helpful for the matrix.org community if you could help us with building a webapp for riot.im.
 does UT have gksudo working with Mir?
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 why under https://ubports.com/survey/fill/upvote-your-device-5/ you can only select one device??
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[08:41] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> Since it is not pinned yet:
[08:41] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> UBports Community Update 14 | October 14, 2017 | UBports Forum … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/657/ubports-community-update-14-october-14-2017
[08:42] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> (Btw it's not shown under "events" on ubports.com )
 I just run launcher.sh for installing Ubuntu Touch on MX4 and the only thing I had to change for it to work on Ubuntu 14.04 was the —show-progress flag used with wget, it is not supported in the wget version on Ubuntu 14.04. So I think it would be good to update script and add 14.04 to supported versions as it is an active LTS
 (Photo, 1280x768) https://irc.ubports.com/qsRmeiWN/file_1153.jpg
 @alan_griffiths so i just installed mir 0.28 on xenial, run miral shell and launched muh silly game
 :D
 @popescu_sorin, source code plz?
 the game is not open sourced
 blasphemy!
 @popescu_sorin, why.
 why hat?
 what
 omg I'm so angry at you rn
 ??
 for not open sourcing the game
 😂
 oh
 please do
 it's nothing of value, believe me :)) just some spagheti code
 everything is of value to someone
 @Xorpad, exactly
 and it's valuable for ke
 even if you aren't proud of your work people could benefit from it all the same
 so unless it's a business venture, open source it
 if you don't want to upload it to Publix GitHub, I can host you on my own git server
 gitlab also allows free private reos
 @Xorpad, exactly
 @Xorpad, it's a self-hosted GitLab CE :P
 :D
 I have some closed source stuff, but it's not intended for use on a FOSS platform such as this
 and some of it i'm considering opensourcing to contribute it to this project
[11:18] <tgBot> Roberto Cupidio was added by: Roberto Cupidio
 hi Roberto
[11:29] <tgBot> <Roberto Cupidio> hi. tnk for your work...i m waiting nexus 5 to instal ubp....after bq4.5 broken, nexus 5 broken...another device...with you
 what happened to your nexus 5?
 i think they need to release the nexus 5 with exact same everything, except AMOLED screen
 *rerelease
 like, it's still a great phone if you discount the battery drain the screen causes
[11:41] <tgBot> <Roberto Cupidio> fall down for 10 mt
 ouch
 hm.. is there a problem with the updates?
[11:45] <tgBot> <Roberto Cupidio> smartphones DO NOT love hard job
 i'm on fp2/rc version 7
 but it seems like the last version is 8, right? https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/15.04/rc/FP2/
 maybe this bug? https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/294
 I got the boot image to build for bullhead halium-7.1, but still gotta fix up the stuff required for a system image
 so kernel and initramfs are building now
 buildn't the system.img will require removing android specific stuff not in the build tree from all the makefiles
 Right.
 That's my next task, probably will look at how current working builds differ from my build tree, and make the changes in my tree
 but first, I need to go buy some red bulls
 :D
 Red bullhead
 hheheheh
 @UniversalSuperBox, 😂👍
 haha, i though about makIing a joke like that, but  I couldn't think of one
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[13:06] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/a0e4mL5u/file_1155.jpg Is the somebody of UB Ports that has (or will) looked into this (old) problem? Taken from Meizu MX4  a few minutes after I took it from the charged in the morning.......
[13:10] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> Charged it over night and used the phone in the morning....After the hard reset it was back on 100%.....this I see since I bought the phone back in 2015 and never read about a real solution.
[13:23] <tgBot> Exxpi06 was added by: Exxpi06
 @Exxpi06, welcome
 Hello
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/L0aBvQ4z/file_1157.jpg
 Hello everybody! I'm interested in the fairphone2+ubports, but it seems that fairphone doesnt offer both. Do i have to flash a fairphone by myself or is it possible to buy one and ubports is already installed? Thx in advance
 You will have to flash it on your own
 but it's not that hard :)
 https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer
 there the link
 https://ubports.com/page/ubuntu-fairphone-2
 Thx, looks promising
 Enjoy !
[14:53] <tgBot> Александр was added by: Александр
 @Александр, Welcome !!! ☺
 Hi!)
 What's the best way to transfer my contacts from iPhone to UT?
 I am too lazy and tired to figure out
 (Using arch)
 If iOS support vcf extracting, go for it ;)
 You rocks :)
 @malditobastardo, looks like a new feature was implemented in developer. … The vibration is missing for the space key but in exchange we have a swipe prompt control. … If i'm correct now we just need to long press space key to use keyboard to swipe the prompt.  is it your case?
 @j2g2rp, I have no idea if this has been landed but yes, there was a proposal for this ^^
 It has landed
 @UniversalSuperBox, BTW I do not get any updates on rc, its true, and the searching for updates never finishes @mariogrip
 switching to devel now
 @j2g2rp, Nice feature ! just tested 😁
 Plz make a screenshot for us =)
 or a picture/animation/video 😆
 Great
 I have that function In my iPhone
 I just have to slide in the keyboard
 To move the cursor
 @malditobastardo, then probably they got a patent for it and will sue us ^^
 😿😿
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/aAb3v8oz/file_1159.jpg
 Wow
 Weird haha
 I'm at work, so no video possible...
 Trackpad mode
 (Photo, 640x960) https://irc.ubports.com/j4e61zL7/file_1161.jpg
 That is from cydia. A totally game changer for me
 @Ern_st, Is it an swipe equivalent on android for ut?
 @malditobastardo, I actually think I'd prefer two fingers on the keyboard and scrolling left and right with that, single finger is kinda known better to draw patterns to make words
 Hi all. It's a while now I flashed Ubports Ubuntu Touch to my BQ E5-vegeta version, and I played around with it,also changing from stable to release channel. It's pretty amazing, I want to thank the devs for that, I'm very close to use it again as my daily driver (probably a couple of OTAs that) maximum away from that). Just one thing worries me a bit: the vertical battery drainage. I don't know it the fault is on the BQ hardware rather than on the
[17:15] <tgBot> software...is this a know issue?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/fIxUVC4n/file_1163.jpg
 For what it's worth, I noticed Ubuntu Touch drained way more battery on my BQ M10 Aquaris HD than Android did
 @Matteo, Nothing to worry the indicator never worked well. Start charing it around 20% (my E5 goes down to 10% also)
 As you can see, when the phone is in stand-by it doesn't drain at all, but when I'm using it in one hour I pass from 100% to 30%
 @Matteo, Probably the battery. My E5 is pretty well for 2 days and has a "normal" curve
 @Lorxu, Ah ok, so maybe there is some excessive drainage...
 turn off Bluetooth
 try at least ^^
 @Matteo, I'm pretty sure it got better between Canonical and UBports but I haven't used UT in a while
 Yeah should be in fact better, some unnecessary services have been deactivated
 So you think it's normal, ok good to know. I'll try to turn off bluetooth by the way, good advice
 @Matteo, because UT has less backgroud processes than android but it's worst optimized, so while using the phone, it drains the battery faster than android...
 @Lorxu, True
 Keyboard For me is working good anyways. But I think the predictions could be a bit better
 And a dark layout is welcome in the near future too :)
 Guys hello
 I wonder something
 Ubuntu portable to MTK?
 @capuya, is this ubuntu touch going on a fruit phone??  does that work?  Is it safe?
 @wayneoutthere, Thatd be really goof
 I really wonder
 @developerfect, some of our device is alredy running on mediatek's hardware
 example bq m10
 MT6592 supported
 @developerfect, As long as there is an lineageos/cyanogemod port it should be posseble to port yes
 @mariogrip, Hmm thank you 😁.
 We have cm13
 I'm dumb, so I'm going to ask a dumb question. If UT requires an Android back end what's stopping it from running Android apps, aside from the obvious screen drawing issues. "Surface flinger"?? Lol
 It doesn't quite require an Android back end. The problem is that most mobile devices only have drivers for Android, so libhybris is used to "translate" the system stuff to those Android drivers for camera and so. That's all the "Android" that's in there. You can see it as a bit of WINE for the drivers
 @Esc476, It's not dumb to ask when you don't understand. Not asking is dumb! … But UT doesn't need android as a back end. It just uses the same device drivers that android does.
 (Or like ndiswrapper in the good old days where Wi-Fi was horrid)
 Oh it gotcha! That makes sense. So, I have the common mic issue with bacon and I can fix it by editing mixer_paths file. Is that used on UT?
 @wayneoutthere, Mmm it's oneplus one!
 But didn't work
 Gone to lineageos
 @Lorxu, 👍 I like that analogy.
 Me too lol damn ndiswrapper... Lol
 that weird bug where the keyboard doesn't pop up: is that a bug on all devices or just my N4?  Anyone have updates on that one?  Is an official bug filed?
 also, let's say I'm inside Dekko2 (I am).  And I want to, within the app provide feedback or bug reports to the developer.  How do I do this?
 https://design.ubuntu.com/apps
 I take canonical completely killed ubuntu as a platform
 @samzn, yeah man. I found that recently and I was like... that's not cool.
 Did you hear our recent audio cast ? We talked about this recently... interesting timing to find this page too
 It was one of their tasks at the Ubuntu rally
 Out with the old, in with the new
 @wayneoutthere, An all devices
 @J, no it's to move the cursor only, to edit a word
 @samzn, Is this not the same content? https://docs.ubuntu.com/phone/en/apps/design/index I can't recall if it is or not
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/9JEPPYrM/file_1165.png
 @Flohack, It was one of those ideas that just might be crazy enough to work
 ^^
 Is sudoko kind of a codename?
 @Ern_st, do you get that in UT? how?
 @JBBgameich, :)
 It's a reference to that fact that just when you think you have everything in place, there's a damn 9 in the row that messes it all up.
 @Ern_st, oh.. that'sa bummer bug. it's hard to believe that i still don't really know how to file and follow up on bugs.  That is a bug in itself....
 @wayneoutthere, how about this?\
 go to the repository of the app and file a bug.
 For the keyboard is not a dekko bug but unity one, as far i understand
 Which has been fixed in devel afaik
 @Jaume81, You have to be on the devel image
 @UniversalSuperBox, When ?
 Couple of weeks ago?
 Ah... i got it again yesterday
 I'll pay attention to it and give feedbacks
[20:35] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, Herr you are Wayne: https://gitlab.com/groups/dekkoproject/issues
 (Photo, 633x1127) https://irc.ubports.com/kZiB6cMv/file_1167.jpg
 how about this?
 @samzn, whats that ^^
 harmful proprietary mesasging service client
 Looks like mega rework of telegram 😆
 it's quite safe product, nobody can read your message
 @Ern_st, In theory, with non-default settings
 @Flohack, whatsapp :(
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 hi, guys... I was thinking if I could contribute in some way to ubports, but I'm having some trouble since the "What we are working on:" of every field is empty: https://ubports.com/page/focus-programming … sorry for the noob question, but where can I find information regarding that?
 @Snaprack, Sorry about the delay. If you want to take a quick dive in to some of the issues that can be fixed, we have https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues … But dumping an issue tracker on someone is no good. What are you looking to work on?
 was thinking about os development actually, but core app is probably a better idea since I'm just starting now
 @UniversalSuperBox, I actually had seen those issues... maybe I should take a closer look at them to get a better perception of the project … just thought there would be a place where the major concerns would be exposed
 (Photo, 633x1128) https://irc.ubports.com/4Drq5SBp/file_1169.jpg
 @Ern_st, why isn't this a quick link inside the app?  shouldn't every app have a 'file a bug' feature right in it?
 @UniversalSuperBox, rrrrreeeeeallY????  how do I get it?  do I just force an update on phone somehow?  I thought this thing downloads the most recent juice automatially?
 @wayneoutthere, Devel is daily. Are you on it?
 uh...
 checking
 oh... dang it. im on stable
 should I un-stabilize?
 If you want
 @Milan Korecky, thanks coach
 I can't make decisions for you.
 @samzn, these people need to speak louder
 Pfffft
 @UniversalSuperBox, yes you can Ton of Dal.  And you should.  Now... do it.
 by the way... i'm working on something hyper off the charts now
 if Dalton won't decide for me.... someone else.  Should I switch to the "Devels channel'? :)
 y'all need to learn how to make decisions for others.
 i'lm going developer  mode and there's nothing you can do to stop me
 oh oh. 402MB of something are heading my way...
 https://twitter.com/UBports/status/918980530938548226 Such a missed opportunity to filter that search on only UBports issues instead of all Hacktoberfest issues :(
[23:33] <tgBot> Marty McFly was added by: Marty McFly
 How are people even going to find UBports in 100 pages of search results
 Marty McFly??  Awesome!  Welcome here
 haha