[00:20] <Bray90820> So I am here on ubuntu with what I think is ether an ALC1150 or an ALC892 and teh sound card is not accessable in system settings
[00:20] <Bray90820> I am running ubuntu live until I get the sound card working
[00:22] <foo> I'm getting this error with requirements.txt install via pip for python: https://bpaste.net/show/7bb50d49c4e7 - I'm wondering if 512MB on this droplet has anything to do with it. Anyone see anything else?
[00:22] <oerheks> according to this, kernel 4.10 solves that https://askubuntu.com/questions/842294/how-to-fix-wrong-audio-profile-on-skylake-realtek-alc1150
[00:24] <oerheks> but if you are uncertain if it could be 892, some mint forum suggests to build a driver https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1236
[00:25] <Bray90820> oerheks: I have kernal 4.10.0-19-generic
[00:26] <oerheks> Bray90820,  oke, then why cant you tell what soundchip?
[00:29] <Bray90820> oerheks: I uasent sure exactly what model my motherboard was but I got it and it is ALC1150
[00:29] <Bray90820> *wasen't
[00:37] <terfysgwr> (with lxde) How do I make the task list on the taskbar 'squeeze to fit' ? Right now, as more tasks are open, they begin to disappear until enough are closed so that they fit again
[00:37] <terfysgwr> Support channels are dead. taking a shot someone else here is familiar with
[00:42] <sbdchd> hello
[00:42] <sbdchd> I have a more general unix question that is hopefully within the scope of this channel
[00:43] <sbdchd> I am trying to grep multiple entires on one line: grep -of <(echo "VHDL\nC++\nHello") <(echo "C++ VHDL")
[00:43] <sbdchd> however, this only outputs: VHDL
[00:43] <sbdchd> when I am trying to output: C++\nVHDL
[00:45] <terfysgwr> sbdchd, you may want to try #linux or something. I haven't seen anyone talk here in months o_O
[00:46] <sbdchd> @terfysgwr okie dokie thanks!
[00:46] <terfysgwr> No prob, good uck
[00:46] <terfysgwr> luck*
[00:46] <Mathisen> sbdchd, sed is what you want
[00:47] <oerheks> terfysgwr, too much AFK ? or blind?
[00:47] <bcowan> awk is probably a little better
[00:47] <Mathisen> sbdchd, you want content between 2 words or just specific words ?
[00:47] <terfysgwr> oerheks, just on a dozen occasions (at these hours only) heh
[00:51] <sbdchd> @Mathisen I just want the two words
[00:51] <sbdchd> So the output would ideally be: C++\nVHDL
[00:59] <nacc> sbdchd: does that also happen if you don't redirect stdin twice?
[00:59] <nacc> sbdchd: as in, using actual files, not relying on shell implementation?
[01:00] <sbdchd> nacc: I am just using echo to make it simpler. using the actual files doesn't work
[01:00] <nacc> sbdchd: using actual files works fine here
[01:00] <sbdchd> I know
[01:00] <nacc> sbdchd: I don't think usign the echos as you are does what you think it does
[01:00] <sbdchd> But the patterns don't work as I think
[01:00] <nacc> sbdchd: you are redirecting stdin twice
[01:01] <nacc> sbdchd: what do you mean? I used your exact example as /tmp/a and /tmp/b and then ran `grep -of /tmp/a /tmp/b` and got your exact desired output
[01:01] <sbdchd> If I put the text in a file and run: grep -of foo.txt bar.txt
[01:01] <sbdchd> hmm
[01:02] <nacc> sbdchd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25729541/ on 17.10, but i doubt grep has changed behavior about this
[01:02] <sbdchd>  grep -of t.txt o.txt
[01:02] <sbdchd> for me outputs just VHDL
[01:02] <sbdchd> when I am trying to get it to output C++\nVHDL
[01:03] <nacc> sbdchd: what is in t.txt and o.txt?
[01:03] <sbdchd> I think the issue may be that I am using BSD grep
[01:03] <sbdchd> :D
[01:03] <nacc> sbdchd: trollingn?
[01:03] <sbdchd> Not intentionally
[01:03] <nacc> sbdchd: you are in the ubuntu channel asking for support for BSD grep?
[01:03] <nacc> seems pretty intentional.
[01:03] <sbdchd> I jsut didn't think there would be a differncen
[01:04]  * nacc EODs on a bad note
[01:04] <sbdchd> What does that mean?
[01:04] <arooni> is there anyway to have the middle scroll button work like windows ... (i.e. i click it and i can scroll by moving above/below that point)
[01:10] <latigidigital> Anyone know how to bypass the First Boot Wizard? I'm running a headless Raspberry Pi 3 with Ubuntu MATE without a display or keyboard, and can't gain SSH access.
[01:14] <Jordan_U> latigidigital: I'm not very familiar with OEM Ubuntu installs and how first boot works there, but isn't your real problem not having sshd installed in the first place?
[01:20] <latigidigital> Jordan_U: good catch
[01:46] <macksfield> What's the best thing to do with two SSDs with ubuntu? I'm a linux newb, on windows I had windows on one SSD, and the other stored all my software/games
[01:47] <macksfield> should i try the same setup? I read something about merging the drives virtually which might be the best option but I can't find that info again
[01:58] <bcowan> macksfield, i would prefer two drives, but you can use lvm and make them look like one volume
[02:23] <macksfield> anyone have any advice on not getting sound from my motherboard audio jack? the front of case jack works, but not the rear
[02:32] <Hisa-mei> Hello!
[02:33] <Hisa-mei> I was searching some themes for Ubuntu 17.04, could I get some help? ^^'
[02:34] <Hisa-mei> I am using Ubuntu as my main OS since a week, and I find myself pretty good with it, but I am kinda confused when it comes to themes
[02:35] <Hisa-mei> I liked RAVEinfinity themes it seems they are not supported on 17.04
[02:36] <Hisa-mei> I got told that it would be better if I installed 16, but I find myself pretty good, it's just with themes I am struggling a bit
[02:44] <macksfield> @Hisa-mei from my understanding, 17.04 is more on the cutting edge, so possibly the theme is not supported? I'm a noob as well, just theorizing
[02:44] <Bashing-om> !themes | Hisa-mei
[02:46] <macksfield> Does anyone have any advice for getting my on-board motherboard audio jack working? it seems the front case jack is working, but the one out the back from the motherboard does not. Is this is a driver issue?
[02:46] <macksfield> test | macksfield
[02:47] <Hisa-mei> @macksfield Basically, in their site they say it's because the themes don't support GTK 3.22
[02:47] <Hisa-mei> @Bashing-om I'll see those sites, thank you
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Hisa-mei: Themes too are dependent on the "engine" they are built against . GTK2/GTK3 may or may not be compatible .
[02:54] <Hisa-mei> What is bothering me is that most themes show off GNOME, do they will work on Unity too?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> mikeplus32: Unity is on top of gnome . so mostly yes .. with the above reservations .
[03:03] <pewpewpew> When I startup Ubuntu (17.04), I go through the usual Ubuntu loading screen, and then I am stuck at a black screen with a cursor. I can get to the root shell prompt in recovery mode, and while in it, I get the error message [TIME] Timed out waitingf for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-<some other stuff>. browsing google leads me to believe /etc/fstab and/or /etc/crypttab are bad, but I do not know how to tell. How should I proceed?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Encrypted ? Then I can not advise, no experience . else you can boot from a live environment and cat the /etc/fstab file and compare the UUIDs to ' sudo blkid ' .
[03:13] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: I do have the root shell up.. is that not something I can do there instead of booting from some media?
[03:16] <bcowan> pewpewpew, is this a new install or have you booted to a graphical environment before?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Sire . Did not realize you were that well off . pastebin ' cat /etc/fstab ; sudo blkid ' for our inspection if ya want opinion on consistency .( will also have to enable networking to work from that install )
[03:16] <pewpewpew> bcowan: I have booted into a graphical environment before, I am not sure what changed
[03:16] <Bashing-om> sure*
[03:19] <pewpewpew> well, there are only two UUID in each, and they are both the same. is it still worth restarting and enabling networking, etc
[03:19] <pewpewpew> to create a pastebin
[03:21] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: If all UUIDs ( no duplicates ! ) corelate to what blkid reports, then no, there is no more to do here . When booting, can you achieve the login screen ?
[03:22] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: They are all the same, no duplicates in either. When I boot, I get the loading splash but no login
[03:22] <pewpewpew> just hangs on a black screen with a mouse cursore
[03:24] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Then we are back " Timed out waitingf for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid- ,,, " an encryption thing ? I just do not know how to verify/check .
[03:29] <bcowan> could just be xorg/wayland press cntrl+alt+F3 and see if theres a prompt
[03:29] <pewpewpew> After the [TIME] error, there are also some other errors that all look to be encryption errors, eg: [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Cryptography Setup for crypswap1.
[03:30] <pewpewpew> bcowan: do you mean to get tty up?
[03:30] <bcowan> pewpewpew, yeah then you can check your live logs
[03:33] <pewpewpew> uh oh.. when i restarted this time, after the splash i just got brought to tty1?
[03:33] <bcowan> fstab doesnt just get automagically changed
[03:35] <pewpewpew> and i get a repeated nouveau message. so does that mean i have some graphics driver problem?
[03:35] <bcowan> most likely
[03:36] <bcowan> something in your graphics stack/config
[03:37] <pewpewpew> anything obvious to try, or should i go back to google
[03:37] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Logged in on TTY1, what shows from terminal command ' runlevel ' ? Then maybe we can look at the graphic's issue .
[03:38] <pewpewpew> unknown
[03:39] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: ouch .. I be lost again .
[03:40] <bcowan> need to look at dmesg and se if anything glaring shows up there
[03:43] <pewpewpew> also, on logging in i got a bunch of errors pop up: eg "mktemp: failed to create file via template ... Read-only file system"
[03:44] <pewpewpew> dmesg is just full of nouveau errors?
[03:44] <bcowan> sounding more like drive failure or corruption if everything was working and just took a dump
[03:46] <bcowan> but without seeing the logs, just guesses
[03:52] <bcowan> and if the drive is mounted read-only the graphics stack wont be able to create a lock file and fail
[03:53] <pewpewpew> hmmm, "EXT4-fs error (device sda2) ... "block bitmap and bg descriptor inconsistent: 28470 vs 26956 free clusters"?
[03:53] <pewpewpew> after thgat it mounds sda2 read-only
[03:54] <bcowan> there ya go
[03:54] <bcowan> maybe a fsck will fix?
[03:54] <bcowan> drive corruption
[03:55] <pewpewpew> sudo fsck?
[03:55] <bcowan> need to do it from single user mode
[03:56] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: file system check/repair from a liveDVD(USB) .
[03:57] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: OR one can do a simple check from grub .
[03:57] <pewpewpew> fsck didnt do much from the root terminal in recovery
[03:57] <pewpewpew> simple check from grub?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Of you ran fsck while the file system was in ise . maybe now there are more problems . Boot to grub 'e' jey for edit mode -> boot options screen.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> 'e' key *
[04:02] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: okay, Im in the GRUB editor
[04:02] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Arrow dowm to the line starting with linux and across to 'quiet splash' . repalce with the term fsck.mode=force , key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[04:03] <bcowan> that always sounds so dirty its almost criminal :P
[04:05] <Bashing-om> bcowan: LOL .. yeah ; but kosher : https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html .
[04:06] <pewpewpew> well... we dont immediately boot into tty1 anymore
[04:06] <pewpewpew> but now im back to a black screen with a cursor
[04:06] <bcowan> do people even call repair console single user mode anymore?
[04:07] <pewpewpew> and i cannot ctrl + alt + f3 to a tty
[04:08] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Not to run fsck ! .. the tool must run when the file system is unmounted !
[04:08] <pewpewpew> ?
[04:08] <pewpewpew> i did what you said...
[04:09] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Once you boot to TTY. then the file system is mounted and in use .
[04:10] <pewpewpew> how do i boot to a tty... do you mean the root terminal in recovery mode?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: "i did what you said..." here you did run from grub " fsck.mode=force " . I am loosing where you are .
[04:11] <Goop> So, clamav has an issue when I run freshclam, and a Github issue suggests that it may be because I don't have enough RAM on my system. Would increasing the SWAP help? I'm not sure if SWAP is something that tells all the programs that there is more RAM, or if programs have to be developed to use RAM.
[04:13] <bcowan> Goop, swap uses drive space like ram when the system needs it at a tremendous cost on speed especially with old mechanical drives
[04:15] <pewpewpew> Hmmm, actually, it seems like my black screen is "reseting", and briefly after it does, some messages. including "created slice user slice of lightdm" pop up
[04:15] <pewpewpew> what did i do to my poor pc...
[04:17] <bcowan> do the drive errors still show up?
[04:17] <pewpewpew> in dmesg?
[04:18] <bcowan> yeah
[04:18] <Goop> bcowan, I know how SWAP works, but that didn't really answer my question. I wanted to know if adding SWAP would tell every program running on the system that there is more RAM available, or if that is something a program has to be specifically designed to use.
[04:18] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: ^^ that is just the system telling you want it is doing at that time . until we run that file system check we just do not know that state of the system.
[04:19] <pewpewpew> didnt it run as soon as i hit ctrl-x?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Yes .. what did it say ? .. do we need to do a deeper file system repair ?
[04:22] <bcowan> Goop, is your system already maxing out your swap too?
[04:23] <pewpewpew> that the root filesystem on /dev/sda2 requires a manual fsck. but running fsck just echos "fsck from util-linux 2.29"
[04:24] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Then we do that manual repair . Must have a liveDVD(USB) to run that .
[04:27] <Cryptofun> hi guys
[04:28] <Cryptofun> im trying to look around in a old dd.. /dev/sda5
[04:28] <Cryptofun> and he tell me , permission deny , when i try mount .. it say its unsafe
[04:28] <Cryptofun> it*
[04:29] <Goop> bcowan, I have 0 SWAP set on my system.
[04:30] <Bashing-om> Cryptofun: What mount point did you make ? and we have a looksee .
[04:30] <bcowan> Goop, oh well yeah add some swap
[04:30] <Cryptofun> i think that the point i dont get is the fslap thing
[04:31] <junzhu> my touchpad doesn't work after upgrading rto 17.04 from 16.04. Ideas?
[04:32] <Cryptofun> i just made myself roogt and tryed this mount -o loop -t auto /dev/sda5 /mnt/newdata
[04:32] <bcowan> Goop, make a swap partition and then run swapon /dev/sdblah
[04:32] <bcowan> add it to your fstab
[04:32] <Cryptofun> ok that paryt
[04:32] <Cryptofun> what i need to do , to go throught it
[04:32] <Cryptofun> fstab
[04:33] <Cryptofun> ( plz , and thx btw , appreciated , just 1st booted that ubuntu in a lifetime )
[04:34] <Cryptofun> what do i do exactly about fstab and '' adding ''
[04:34] <Bashing-om> Cryptofun: Make up the mount point explicitly ' sudo mkdir /mnt/looksee/ ; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/looksee; sudo ls -al /mnt/looksee ' // what do you now see ?
[04:35] <vijaikumar> junzhu: synclient TouchpadOff=0
[04:36] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: alright, I have my livedisk and booted from it. I want "try ubuntu without installing"?
[04:37] <junzhu> vijaikumar: sudo? or admin priviledges?
[04:38] <Cryptofun> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)
[04:38] <Cryptofun> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[04:38] <junzhu> vijaikumar: That might explain.... synclient not installed.....
[04:38] <vijaikumar> junzhu: you don't need sudo for using that command
[04:39] <Cryptofun> thats what it tell me mr , bashing-om
[04:41] <Bashing-om> Cryptofun: Then you too run a file system check/repair .
[04:41] <vijaikumar> junzhu: its provided by this package
[04:41] <vijaikumar> sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[04:41] <vijaikumar> install it, restart and try to enable touchpad with the command i gave you
[04:41] <Cryptofun> so ? fcheck /dev/sda5 ?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: yes . "try ubuntu" and then ctl+alt+T to activate a terminal .
[04:43] <pewpewpew> okay, then just fsck?
[04:43] <junzhu> vijaikumar: synaptics driver not loaded? is it normal for ubuntu not to install packages needed for hardware?
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Cryptofun: from a liveDVD(USB) we run that repair . ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda5 ' .
[04:44] <Cryptofun> so i put a usb key of ubuntu
[04:44] <Cryptofun> run it as a sheel
[04:44] <Cryptofun> n fire that command in root?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: ^^ same same command as that for Cryptofun .
[04:45] <Cryptofun> no need to be rooted termninal?
[04:45] <Cryptofun> sudo su before?
[04:45] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: it tells me to run fsck manually
[04:46] <Bashing-om> Cryptofun: No. boot the liveUSB -> try ubuntu mode -> crl+alt+T yo gain a terminal .
[04:46] <pewpewpew> also "unexpected inconsistency"
[04:47] <Cryptofun> if i dont come back , thanks alot
[04:47] <ignoo> hello, excuse me i have an issue with gnome-software after i updated to ubuntu gnome 17.04.
[04:47] <Cryptofun> need some rest afther that
[04:47] <Cryptofun> but ill be back tomorow for more :P thx alot
[04:47] <vijaikumar> junzhu: Not its not, something might have been broken during upgrade
[04:47] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . Let's make sure of the target and the file system .
[04:48] <vijaikumar> This is why i never ever ever upgrade and spend a little bit of time backing up stuff and do a clean install instead
[04:48] <ignoo> ok i just would like to know if it is safe to reinstall it and all repository sources...
[04:49] <ignoo> and please what should i do exactly? consider me like i am a bit dumb ;)
[04:49] <ignoo> no offense to myself.
[04:49] <vijaikumar> ignoo: what is the issue exactly ?
[04:50] <ignoo> well i have more repos than expected,it disabled many and only kept the http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu one for zesty
[04:51] <vijaikumar> gnome-software is simply a frontend, you can reinstall it, it shouldn't be a problem
[04:51] <ignoo> problem is it wasn't showing so many as before..and after i re-enabled all other reps i got no software in my software center.
[04:52] <ignoo> and even categories are gone
[04:52] <ignoo> i tried from terminal to make apt-update and upgrade
[04:53] <vijaikumar> okay
[04:53] <vijaikumar> and what happened with that ?
[04:53] <ignoo> i tried refresh the software & updates stuff from graphical interface
[04:53] <vijaikumar> this has all the repos list --> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <ignoo> well it showed repos, attempted to download stuff and really looked like it succeded but...nothing solved at all
[04:54] <ignoo> i can't see any software in gnome-software center
[04:54] <misc--> hello... I'm trying to add an ip rule to a table: ip rule add from <ip> table B       # but then when I do ip rule list, instead of adding that rule to table B, it adds it to table A. Why would that be? (both table A and B exist in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables)
[04:55] <vijaikumar> ignoo: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[04:55] <vijaikumar> you can use this for getting default sources list
[04:56] <vijaikumar> You can probably try removing cache of gnome-software
[04:56] <element> I created a new service, horizon.service and when I run systemctl start horizon, it runs fine. I ran sytemctl enable horizon, but it's not starting on boot. Any ideas? https://kopy.io/jMcPg#Y47zjF0I6fN7i4
[04:59] <c00lwhip> hello all
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> hi
[05:00] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/suC6BhTT
[05:01] <ignoo> how to remove cache?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: cache from what
[05:01] <ignoo> gnome-software
[05:02] <ignoo> it is broken after update to ubuntu gnome 17.04
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: define 'broken' please?
[05:03] <element> I created a new service, horizon.service and when I run systemctl start horizon, it runs fine. I ran sytemctl enable horizon, but it's not starting on boot. Any ideas? https://kopy.io/jMcPg#Y47zjF0I6fN7i4
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | element
[05:04] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Great ! I goofed you up earlier . run ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda2 ' where the target is sda2 .
[05:05] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: that is what i ran (sda2 instead of sda5)
[05:06] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: K; pastebin the command and it's result . see what we need to do .
[05:06] <element> lotuspsychje, I've ready through those, but not sure what's wrong with my file.
[05:07] <ignoo> it disabled many old repositories, it updated and then there was so many more repositories than before, and all disabled, the 2 from zesty(deb and source) which should be http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu only showed me some software but not all that were before and I was unable to have access to many common files wich would be usually in any ubuntu distro (just to say even firefox was missing O_O) i tried re-enable old repository (which multiplied from 2
[05:07] <ignoo> to something like 10 or 12) and as a result...no software anymore showed, and categories too..not even loading..it just show no software.
[05:07] <campitor> hello friends
[05:08] <element> lotuspsychje, I ran the enable command, I'm not seeing anything in /lib/systemd/system for the horizon.service file.
[05:08] <campitor> I was running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and suddenly there was a powercut, It was in the middle of a kernel thingie, will "sudo apt-get -f install" fix all probable problems?
[05:08] <ignoo> doesn't it look like it's broken in your opinion? for that i said the B word
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: i would go for a system clean
[05:09] <ignoo> help me please consider me dumb and tell me everything you would do...
[05:09] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/zs7Z3J9W
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: doublecheck if you still got ppa's active, clean system with bleachbit, and sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[05:09] <campitor> what should I do folks? last time this happened I had to reinstall EVERYTHING, now I don't have the time to do it
[05:09] <campitor> plz hlp
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | ignoo
[05:10] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: reading .
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> campitor: stopping an upgrade is in most cases bad news
[05:10] <campitor> lotuspsychje: :'(
[05:10] <campitor> anything that can be done?
[05:10] <campitor> at this point?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> campitor: can you re-try a sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade?
[05:11] <campitor> yes
[05:11] <campitor> I did and it says there is no need for update
[05:11] <campitor> like anything is normal
[05:11] <campitor> but I am not sure
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> campitor: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:11] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Try as ' e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda2 ' .
[05:11] <ignoo> i already did apt update && apt upgrade seems like working and there's notwhing wrong.
[05:11] <ignoo> in output.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: good news already
[05:12] <campitor> the first time I turned on the pc it told me to run "sudo apt-get -f install" for the kernel to get installed, I did, then I had to run autoremove, which I did, now when I run "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", it says there is nothing to upgrade
[05:13] <ignoo> not so good...as it recognize repositories and download stuff from it but not showing in gnome-software
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> campitor: perhaps you might got lucky
[05:13] <campitor> lotuspsychje: I am running 16.04.01 X86-64,
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: you still got ppa's active can you check plz?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> campitor: oh you need to goto .2 or .3 at this point
[05:13] <ignoo> please,assume i'm dumb.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !repo | ignoo
[05:14] <ignoo> i didn't understand you.
[05:14] <ignoo> oh yes sorry. XD
[05:14] <campitor> lotuspsychje: I don't know everytime the system comes up there is this "sddm-greeter" related "Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error" message coing up
[05:14] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/5UjbyhRA
[05:14] <campitor> lotuspsychje: what do you mean I have to go to .2 or .3 at this point?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> campitor: lets try to get you to next . version first
[05:15] <ignoo> well ppa showing as active in software & updates
[05:15] <campitor> lotuspsychje: ok
[05:15] <campitor> lets do it
[05:15] <Bashing-om> campitor: Try ' sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo apt clean ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ' .
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: we dont support external ppa's here, but try to clean them all out first
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | ignoo
[05:17] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Looks good ! repairs effected . Reboot into the install see what you now have :)
[05:17] <campitor> Bashing-om: ok will this do what lotuspsychje told me to do? upgrade to the latest version?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> campitor: enter the command from Bashing-om yes
[05:18] <campitor> ok
[05:18] <campitor> doing them in order
[05:18] <Bashing-om> campitor: one at a time .. looking for errors .
[05:19] <ignoo> should i remove them all?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: for a clean ubuntu experience, we cant support external ppa's you added, its your system, you can choose
[05:20] <campitor> Bashing-om: I ran all the commands, one at a time, in the order you told me, no errors or anything strange, also it did not upgrade to .2 or .3.
[05:20] <campitor> should I assume everything is totally fine
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: also, only ppapurge ppa's you added, not the ones from system right
[05:21] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: nothing has changed. do you think it is possibly still a graphics driver issue
[05:22] <pewpewpew> there were still nouveau messages?
[05:22] <ignoo> well i removed all ppa's
[05:22] <ignoo> trying to re-add them to see if that work
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> campitor: still you need to go to the next point release for security issues
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: we dont support adding external ppa's here
[05:23] <campitor> lotuspsychje: you mean.2?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> campitor: yes
[05:23] <campitor> lotuspsychje: how can I do that please? thank you.
[05:23] <campitor> let me see
[05:23] <campitor> i just got it
[05:24] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: could well be are you now booted to TTY1 ?
[05:24] <campitor> what security issues are we talking about lotuspsychje ?
[05:24] <ignoo> ok i'm gonna replace /etc/apt/sources.list with a new list i generated with https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ and will see what happen
[05:24] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: no, but i can be
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !usn | campitor check your current kernel here
[05:25] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: do so please .. and run ' sudo lshw -C display ' and paste that output .
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> campitor: sudo apt dist-upgrade
[05:26] <ignoo> oh it's read only.
[05:26] <campitor> lotuspsychje: I set the upgrade to latest version, but "sudo apt full-upgrade" is still not upgrading to .2.
[05:27] <campitor> lotuspsychje: I did, but it is not upgrading to .2
[05:27] <campitor> it is sticking with 16.04.1
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:28] <Bashing-om> campitor: lotuspsychje ' df -h ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin . see what is going on here .
[05:28] <ignoo> ok lotuspsychje it opens sources.list with software center.. and if i open with text editor it's read only and i'm unable to change it, excuse me but i really suk at this
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: for properly vanish ppa's, use ppapurge i pasted you earlier..editing manually yourself wont get them out properly
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> campitor: you might also check software & sources, see if all repos active properly? try the GUI updater?
[05:32] <campitor> lotuspsychje: I just did, gui updater is no good either
[05:33] <ignoo> lotus what if i already deleted them manually lol?
[05:33] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/DuMYaLUR
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: no worries, still doublecheck with ppapurge plz
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> campitor: no errors on apt update && apt dist-upgrade?
[05:35] <campitor> lotuspsychje: no
[05:35] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Hybrid graphics . what relaese are you running ?
[05:35] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: 17.04
[05:36] <ignoo> lotus what the proper command for ppa purge everything?
[05:36] <ignoo> i missed the repo links
[05:36] <ignoo> lost..gone..vanished.
[05:36] <ignoo> O_O
[05:36] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Do you mind running the nvidia proprietary driver ?
[05:36] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: no
[05:36] <pewpewpew> but how am i going to install it... from the recovery terminal?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | ignoo
[05:37] <ignoo> i can't install ppa-purge?
[05:38] <campitor> it is odd, when I run lsb_release -a it says "Description: 16.04.3" but when I run uname -a, it says 16.04.1-Ubuntu
[05:38] <campitor> !
[05:38] <campitor> so it is .3 already
[05:39] <ignoo> ok i have that don't need to install it. but can only do for specific repository
[05:39] <ignoo> « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>
[05:39] <ignoo> you see..i miss repository-name to insert cause there's no repository actually.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial | campitor
[05:40] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: K; Let's install: disable secure boot in bios and run ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . reboot to see the effect .
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: you need the proper ppa name indeed to ppapurge it
[05:41] <ignoo> <tapping my fingers on the table furiousely> i know.
[05:41] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: do you mean run that from the livedisc?
[05:41] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: No, from the installed TTY1 terminal .
[05:42] <ignoo> how to replace my sources.list file with a new one as i deleted it and i already have a new one?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !sources | ignoo
[05:42] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Important that secire boot is disabled .
[05:42] <ignoo> or to just reinstall all the whole gnome-software without repositories?
[05:42] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: I can only get to the recovery root terminal, if thats what you mean.
[05:42] <pewpewpew> but it must not be, since you mentioned sudo..
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: no first clean out system mate
[05:43] <ignoo> type me commands to do that? please?
[05:44] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Ouch . well we can work from there .. but if you can not bot to a login screen and from there crl+alt+F1 - there are still deeper issues than a grahic's driver !
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: i cant know how you added your ppa's and what their called like...we dont support them here so your bit on your own
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: if i was in your case, i would go for a nice,clean fresh ubuntu install with an LTS version
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: thats like 20min of your time
[05:47] <ignoo> sudo add-apt-repository deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ zesty main restricted universe multiverse
[05:47] <ignoo> Error: need a single repository as argument
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: the ppa needs to be in proper format, read the ppapurge site lol
[05:49] <ignoo> i only wanted to know how to reinstall gnome-software
[05:49] <ignoo> O_O
[05:50] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: should i still disable secure boot in bios
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: gnome-software should work by default
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: your system updates will bring you the right version of gnome-software automaticly, no need for own install
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: thats the way ubuntu works, nice and stable unless you borked it yourself
[05:52] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Well, if you can not boot to the login screen . then intalling a driver at this point is moot . secure boot at this point is not relevant .
[05:53] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: okay, in recovery terminal
[05:55] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Another thought !-Try from grub's boot options screen . insert the term nomodeset . ctl+x - what now do you boot to ?
[05:55] <ignoo> ok added manually, enabled and now i got this error: Failed to download repository information. check your Internet connection.
[05:56] <ignoo> ain't I connected?
[05:56] <selocol> Does anyone know the name of the package that allows me to change language input? I'm using Fluxbox and want to start the application.
[05:57] <ignoo> can maybe problem be my recent installation of torsocks?
[05:57] <alkisg> selocol: language input means keyboard language? That's with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`
[05:58] <pewpewpew> Bashing-om: a broken splash? (5 dots changing from white to red and back, without stopping, and a blinking cursor in the top left)
[05:59] <pewpewpew> jk, it stopped and im at the same black screen with a mouse cursor
[05:59] <selocol> alkisg: Thank you
[06:00] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: strange ! think'n .
[06:00] <alkisg> np
[06:00] <ignoo> https://pastebin.com/u10PrfF7
[06:01] <ignoo> can someone explain me why i get this outpoot?
[06:05] <campitor> damn, I did 'sudo do-release-upgrade" by mistake, during trying to update to .3, I stopped it before it actually happened, now I messed up my sources.list + .d
[06:09] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: Stuck .. I do not know what to advise at this point .
[06:10] <alkisg> pewpewpew: what's the summary of the problem?
[06:11] <ignoo> https://pastebin.com/b6PyQN3N
[06:11] <ignoo> i keep getting errors.
[06:11] <ignoo> help me please my computer hates me.
[06:11] <pewpewpew> alkisg: I boot, go through the ubuntu loading splash, and end up in a black screen with a mouse cursor. cant ctrl + alt + f3 into a tty.
[06:12] <hateball> pewpewpew: is this a clean install? what gpu?
[06:13] <pewpewpew> hateball: no. and https://pastebin.com/DuMYaLUR
[06:13] <ignoo> can someone just teach me how to not suck that much? looks like every step i take here i break something.
[06:13] <hateball> pewpewpew: So this broke after an update?
[06:13] <pewpewpew> hateball: i am honestly not sure.. i dont really remember updating anything
[06:14] <hateball> pewpewpew: have you tried booting with !nomodeset ?
[06:14] <pewpewpew> hateball: yep
[06:14] <pewpewpew> hateball: no success
[06:14] <hateball> if the driver is broken you shouldnt get X at all I suppose
[06:14] <hateball> hmmm
[06:14] <alkisg> pewpewpew: black screen with a mouse cursor means that your graphics are working, but your display manager etc configuration isn't
[06:14] <alkisg> This doesn't sound like a graphics issue
[06:14] <hateball> yea
[06:14] <alkisg> What else can be wrong with the system, e.g. broken updates?
[06:14] <ignoo> are you ignooring me and my issues? :( not so nice.. :(
[06:15] <ducasse> !patience | ignoo
[06:15] <ignoo> i'll be..i'll be patient.
[06:15] <hateball> ignoo: It's rather hard to follow your issue when you dont keep it on one line
[06:15] <pewpewpew> Hmm, i also get error messages when i get into the recovery terminal, eg [TIME] Timed out waitingf for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-<some other stuff>
[06:16] <ignoo> i pastebin'd it.
[06:16] <pewpewpew> but my /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab look fine
[06:16] <hateball> pewpewpew: have you ran fsck? checked disk status with smartctl? timeouts on your storage device is usually not great
[06:17] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: hateball :: is the time out still an issue after the fsck ?
[06:17] <pewpewpew> hateball: yep, i have ran fsck
[06:17] <ignoo> 1: https://pastebin.com/u10PrfF7   & 2: https://pastebin.com/b6PyQN3N
[06:18] <Bashing-om> hateball: IRT pewpewpew : fsck: https://pastebin.com/5UjbyhRA .
[06:19] <hateball> hmmm
[06:20] <hateball> pewpewpew: what does "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" look like ?
[06:20] <Bashing-om> hateball: try and boot from grub ? EFI system .
[06:21] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: You are attempting to boot in EFI mode, yes ?
[06:22] <pewpewpew> I dont know what EFI mode is
[06:22] <pewpewpew> So.. possibly?
[06:23] <alkisg> pewpewpew: how did this system break, what were you doing, upgrades, of which software, from what version, to what version etc?
[06:24] <hateball> pewpewpew: if you can access a recovery console, you can check /var/log/apt/history* for package update details
[06:24] <pewpewpew> alkisg: not sure. I dont remember installing/updating anything in particular before this happened. I just turned it on the other day and had this issue
[06:24] <Bashing-om> pewpewpew: When you boot the system to the bios screen there are several options to boot . legacy (ccsm) or UEFI . if you are booting from bios as legacy and the system is installed as UEFI then grub will not find the config files to boot the system .
[06:25] <ignoo> pewpewpew your partition is EFI or it isn't. UEFI it's just a way to manage partitions: infos here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition
[06:25] <hateball> well if it goes as far as to display a cursor, then something is booted at least
[06:26] <alkisg> pewpewpew: OK, let's start with the basics. Boot into recovery mode. Then select enable networking. Then select root prompt. At that root prompt, type: xinit
[06:26] <alkisg> pewpewpew: did you get an xterm running?
[06:26] <hateball> ignoo: I'm not sure I understand what your issue is, that you cant connect to the repos?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> hateball: his gnome-software doesnt work, he added external ppa', cant update properly
[06:27] <ignoo> can you please help me too with my issue with gnome-software and repos?1: https://pastebin.com/u10PrfF7   & 2: https://pastebin.com/b6PyQN3N
[06:27] <hateball> lotuspsychje: aha
[06:28] <ignoo> hateball: my problem is not that i added external ppa, my gnome-software center doesn't show anything it's empty...
[06:28] <pewpewpew> alkisg: enabling network doesnt seem to work? it repeated "grep: /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory" a bunch and then appears to have hung
[06:29] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, wait a bit to see if the menu comes back. Is this an ssd disk?
[06:30] <pewpewpew> alkisg: not an ssd
[06:30] <ignoo> hateball: it doesn't show installed files too...that happened after i upgraded to 17.04 from 16.04... don't tell me to make a clean install cause i don't have any cd or dvd to burn right now...
[06:31] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, if it hasn't un-hanged in a minute, reboot, then select just root prompt, and ping me, without running xinit
[06:31] <campitor> where does "sudo do-release-upgrade" store all the files it downloads? How can I remove them?
[06:31] <campitor> none of them is installed, will sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean remove these files?
[06:33] <pewpewpew> alkisg: at root prompt
[06:33] <ducasse> campitor: yes, they're just in the package cache
[06:33] <campitor> thank you
[06:34] <Bashing-om> campitor: Once do-relese-upgrade is invoked, there is no UNdo . A fresh clean install or complete the release upgrade .
[06:34] <campitor> How can I reset sudo apt-get cash? I mean when I run "apt-get update" where are the files stored? not the 'dist-upgrade" cash that is removed when you run "sudo apt clean"
[06:34] <alkisg> pewpewpew: try:  mount -o remount,rw /; touch /test
[06:34] <alkisg> pewpewpew: any errors with that?
[06:35] <alkisg> campitor: note that do-release-upgrade changes sources etc that won't be restored by just cleaning the cache
[06:35] <campitor> Bashing-om : Well, it was downloading the files, I Ctrl+C ed, and it seems it only messed up the sources.list and sources.list.d
[06:35] <campitor> I restored those files and now I want to clean, and reset apt
[06:35] <pewpewpew> alkisg: "mount: cannot remount /dev/sda2 read-write, is write protected"
[06:36] <pewpewpew> and "touch: cannot touch '/test': Read-only file system"
[06:36] <campitor> Bashing-om: what do you mean? You mean besides sources.list, there are other things that are changed? I seem to have gone back, what do you mean there is no going back?
[06:36] <alkisg> pewpewpew: OK, that might be the main issue, a read-only disk, for example due to bad file system
[06:36] <Bashing-om> campitor: K; but my feeloing is that id the sourcelists was generated .. too far to back out now .. I will be pleased to be in error .
[06:36] <ducasse> campitor: there is only one package cache
[06:36] <alkisg> pewpewpew: can you boot from a live cd?
[06:36] <pewpewpew> alkisg: yep
[06:36] <alkisg> pewpewpew: OK ping me when you do
[06:37] <pewpewpew> is it worth mentioning that my /home is encrypted?
[06:37] <campitor> ducasse: I know, but you see, when you run "sudo apt-get update" there are some files being downloaded right? I want to know where those are stored
[06:37] <alkisg> pewpewpew: not at this point
[06:37] <campitor> I don't mean the cash of installed applications
[06:37] <ducasse> campitor: /var/lib/apt/lists
[06:37] <campitor> ducasse: will it be ok if I removed all of them?
[06:37] <campitor> in that directory?
[06:38] <ducasse> campitor: yes, they will just be downloaded again.btw, it's 'cache', not 'cash'.
[06:38] <campitor> terribly sorry, thank you for reminding me
[06:38] <alkisg> campitor: /var/cache/apt/archives has .deb files that can be deleted. Don't delete /var/lib/apt/lists though.
[06:38] <pewpewpew> alkisg: booted into livecd
[06:38] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, what's the output of `sudo lsblk --fs` ?
[06:39] <campitor> alkisg: why not? I am going to only remove the files in that directory, not the directory itself, will they not be downloaded again? after apt update?
[06:39] <ducasse> alkisg: he already cleaned the cache, deleting the lists is perfectly fine
[06:39] <alkisg> campitor: why would you manually delete files managed by apt? there's apt update for lists, and apt clean for debs
[06:39] <alkisg> OK
[06:41] <ignoo> alkisg: well if apt update work for you.
[06:41] <ignoo> XD
[06:41] <campitor> alkisg: btw, /var/cache/apt/archives is totally empty here, I am trying to remove "/var/lib/apt/lists" because I did a do-release-upgrade by mistake, I canceled it before it actually happened, then I noticed it toally messed up my sources.list, and files inside sources.list.d, then I had to manually correct these sources.list files, and now I want to make sure, /var/lib/apt/lists only contains the files that are needed, not any extras
[06:41] <campitor> alkisg: you mean I don't need to do this?
[06:42] <ignoo> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/u10PrfF7
[06:42] <ducasse> campitor: sometimes you do need to remove the package lists to get apt to work, but it's pretty rare
[06:42] <alkisg> campitor: afaik you don't need to manually do this, once you properly updated your sources apt will manage that dir removing the extras
[06:42] <campitor> oh, ok then, I won't touch it
[06:42] <pewpewpew> alkisg: for some reason the wifi isnt working so i cant pastebin it, but it shows sda1 and sda2, vfat and ext4 respectively ?
[06:42] <campitor> thank you folks
[06:42] <alkisg> ignoo: I'm not monitoring your issue, no need to ping me personally...
[06:43] <campitor> wow I found an error in pcmanfm
[06:43] <campitor> should I share?
[06:43] <ignoo> alkisg: whyyy everyone avoid me like a disease? O_O
[06:43] <campitor> let me check if it is replicable
[06:43] <ignoo> ok i'll make a clean install next time, got it.
[06:43] <ignoo> :(
[06:44] <ducasse> ignoo: try summing up your problem
[06:44] <alkisg> pewpewpew: hmm it will be more difficult without pastes, but try: sudo -i; fsck -r /dev/sda2; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt; touch /mnt/test
[06:44] <ignoo> including or not including mind issues?
[06:44] <ignoo> XD
[06:45] <pewpewpew> alkisg: okay. im root now. but nothing echo'd to the terminal
[06:45] <alkisg> pewpewpew:  fsck -r /dev/sda2; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt; touch /mnt/test
[06:47] <pewpewpew> alkisg: /dev/sda2 is mountedm e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[06:47] <campitor> not an error I think, can't do it again :(
[06:48] <Bray90820> So my sound card ALC1150 shows in alsamixer but not in system settings
[06:48] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ah maybe it was automounted, start with unmounting first so that we are in the same page: umount /dev/sda2; fsck -r /dev/sda2; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt; touch /mnt/test
[06:48] <ignoo> ducasse: have problem with gnome-software i can't download anything, i cannot view installed files, i can't update, i can't use apt features properly because it gives me many many errors i already pasted in pastebin, 1: https://pastebin.com/u10PrfF7   & 2: https://pastebin.com/b6PyQN3N , all that happened after i switched from ubuntu gnome 16.04 to 17.04
[06:49] <ignoo> anyone got some rope so i can kms?
[06:49] <ignoo> O_O
[06:49] <campitor> thank you guys, really.
[06:49] <pewpewpew> alkisg: same output
[06:49] <campitor> :)
[06:50] <alkisg> pewpewpew: can you see where it's mounted if you just type "mount" ?
[06:51] <ducasse> ignoo: try running 'sudo apt install -f | pastebinit'
[06:51] <pewpewpew> alkisg: in two places: .mnt and /media/ubuntu/<its uuid?>
[06:51] <pewpewpew> i mean /mnt
[06:52] <alkisg> pewpewpew: and when you run "umount /dev/sda2" and then run "mount" again, you still see it mounted?
[06:52] <alkisg> pewpewpew: run "unmount /mnt; unmount /media/ubuntu/uuidetcetc" until it's unmounted :)
[06:53] <Bray90820_> Anyone know how to get it to work with system settings
[06:53] <ignoo> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/EaRfDbTd
[06:55] <ignoo> ducasse: what i really would like to know is how to reinstall gnome-software in a safe way.
[06:55] <pewpewpew> alkisg: neither are mounted now
[06:56] <ignoo> it is main software center in ubuntu gnome.
[06:56] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok now go on with the initial command, fsck -r /dev/sda2; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt; touch /mnt/test
[06:57] <pewpewpew> alkisg: fsck found a problem (free block count wrong)?
[06:57] <ducasse> ignoo: it might be because apt is inconsistent, which is what i'm trying to determine. now try 'sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-keyring'
[06:57] <alkisg> pewpewpew: fix all the problems you see, press y
[06:58] <pewpewpew> touch was successful, it looks liek
[07:00] <pewpewpew> alkisg:
[07:00] <ignoo> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/77tt4HD4
[07:00] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, now reboot, select root prompt, then type "mount -o remount,rw /" again, to see if you can mount it read-write normally
[07:00] <alkisg> pewpewpew: (talking about recovery mode again)
[07:02] <ducasse> ignoo: try 'sudo apt update'  again now
[07:04] <ignoo> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/gPuTpHaS
[07:04] <pewpewpew> alkisg: there is a test in /
[07:05] <ignoo> ducasse: is that maybe because i run torsocks?
[07:05] <alkisg> pewpewpew: you did that from the live cd, but did you manage remount rw now?
[07:06] <ducasse> ignoo: might be, or try choosing a mirror close to you, you can do that from the software and updates gui
[07:06] <pewpewpew> alkisg: i ran that from the recovery terminal
[07:06] <alkisg> pewpewpew: cool. try to reboot normally, without recovery
[07:08] <ignoo> ducasse: software & updates stopped working, unable to open it again.
[07:08] <ignoo> ._. please allow me to say that: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:09] <pewpewpew> alkisg: no change
[07:09] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, let's go back to the recovery root prompt then.
[07:09] <alkisg> pewpewpew: from the root prompt: mount -o remount,rw /; touch /test2; ls /test2
[07:09] <ducasse> ignoo: that's not good. do you get any errors if you run 'sudo update-manager' from a terminal?
[07:11] <ignoo> ducasse: popup message: failed to download repository information. check your internet connection.
[07:11] <pewpewpew> alkisg: it tells me to run fsck manually, but runnign fsck just gives "fsck from util-linux 2.29"
[07:11] <alkisg> pewpewpew: when you reboot, do you reboot from the menu, or using the hard reset button?
[07:12] <pewpewpew> alkisg: from the black screen i have to hard reset..
[07:12] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ah, that's what breaks it then...
[07:12] <alkisg> It should recover, but it doesn't always do a good job...
[07:13] <ducasse> ignoo: ok, try purging torsocks - 'sudo apt purge torsocks'
[07:13] <alkisg> pewpewpew: what's the output of `fsck -r /dev/sda2` ?
[07:14] <ignoo> ducasse: but it seemed good to me, it is useful to proxy any program i use, like just a vpn feature but homemade.
[07:15] <ducasse> ignoo: i just want to remove it to make sure it's not interfering, you can reinstall it later
[07:16] <pewpewpew> alkisg: what i would hope fsck would output. and the running that previous line gives us test2 in /
[07:16] <ignoo> ducasse: well i'll try to purge as you said cause i just want to see if that was the source of the issue i got, even if i think the issue comes directly from gnome-software
[07:16] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok. now try: xinit
[07:16] <alkisg> pewpewpew: do you get a graphical xterm?
[07:16] <pewpewpew> alkisg: yep
[07:17] <pewpewpew> i think
[07:17] <pewpewpew> i get an xterm
[07:17] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, move the mouse over it to be able to type, and type exit
[07:17] <pewpewpew> its not very pretty/graphical though
[07:17] <alkisg> pewpewpew: did you get back to root console?
[07:17] <pewpewpew> ok
[07:17] <pewpewpew> yep
[07:17] <alkisg> pewpewpew: now try service lightdm start
[07:18] <ignoo> ducasse: ok i purged it,what now.
[07:18] <pewpewpew> alkisg: job for lighdm.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
[07:18] <alkisg> pewpewpew: btw, which ubuntu version and flavor? e.g. 16.04 unity?
[07:18] <pewpewpew> but it didnt give me the error code...
[07:18] <pewpewpew> alkisg: 17.04
[07:18] <ducasse> ignoo: see if you still get errors from 'sudo apt update'
[07:18] <alkisg> pewpewpew: unity or e.g. kde ?
[07:19] <alkisg> Or e.g. gnome?
[07:19] <ignoo> only hits and gets now, Fetched 574 kB in 1s (340 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done
[07:19] <pewpewpew> alkisg: im not sure?
[07:19] <ducasse> ignoo: bingo. do you see a gnome-software directory in ~/.cache?
[07:20] <alkisg> pewpewpew: are you in the root prompt now? what's the output of ls /usr/share/xsessions?
[07:20] <ignoo> ducasse: but gnome-software still not working...
[07:20] <pewpewpew> alkisg: dwm.desktop and ubuntu.desktop
[07:20] <ignoo> ducasse: i'm naked now i wouldn't call it a bingo unless I like pervs,which i don't usually do
[07:20] <ignoo> XD
[07:21] <alkisg> pewpewpew: OK, try soft-rebooting by just running `reboot`
[07:21] <alkisg> pewpewpew: if you end up in black screen again, ping me
[07:21] <alkisg> Don't hard reset
[07:22] <ducasse> ignoo: try 'ls ~/.cache' - do you see a gnome-software directory?
[07:23] <ignoo> igno there are 2 folders in there. 2 different versions -.-
[07:23] <ignoo> here's a bingo!
[07:23] <ignoo> ducasse:
[07:23] <ducasse> ignoo: pastebin it
[07:23] <pewpewpew> alkisg: ended up in a black screen
[07:24] <alkisg> pewpewpew: and you say alt+ctrl+fx doesn't work there, right? does alt+ctrl+del work?
[07:24] <ignoo> ducasse: ls: cannot access '/home/ignoo/.cache/doc': Permission denied lmfao
[07:25] <pewpewpew> alkisg: neither do anything
[07:25] <alkisg> pewpewpew: how about alt+ctrl+del, seven times, within 2 seconds? (it's a systemd trick)
[07:26] <ignoo> ducasse: oh maybe cause it's hidden?
[07:26] <ducasse> ignoo: 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME'
[07:26] <pewpewpew> alkisg: doesnt seem like it did anything
[07:27] <alkisg> pewpewpew: ok, try this then: hold down alt, ctrl, shift, print screen. And while holding them down, press U, and then depress it, and press B
[07:27] <alkisg> I.e. you need to be pressing 4+1=5 keys simultaneously
[07:27] <ignoo> ~/.cache/gnome-software$ ls 3.20  3.22
[07:27] <ignoo> 2 folders
[07:28] <vijaikumar> clean the cache ignoo
[07:28] <ducasse> ignoo: 'rm -rf ~/cache/gnome-software', then try opening it
[07:28] <pewpewpew> alkisg: that... rebooted my pc?
[07:28] <alkisg> pewpewpew: yes, it's a softer reboot
[07:28] <alkisg> So that you don't press hard reboots
[07:28] <ducasse> ignoo: 'rm -rf ~/.cache/gnome-software', sorry
[07:28] <pewpewpew> what kind weird dark magic is that...
[07:28] <alkisg> pewpewpew: http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[07:28] <alkisg> pewpewpew: can you go to a live cd that also has internet access?
[07:29] <pewpewpew> i can go hook it up via ethernet cable..
[07:29] <alkisg> OK, it'll help
[07:31] <ignoo> ducasse, it does not open now
[07:32] <ducasse> ignoo: what does it say if you try to run it from a terminal?
[07:33] <ignoo> it opens but nothing inside, can't download, can't see installed stuff, can't update stuff from there, same as before
[07:33] <ignoo> and i can't open software & updates from there, again.
[07:35] <ducasse> ignoo: did you run the chown command i gave you?
[07:38] <pewpewpew> alkisg: okay
[07:38] <ignoo> ducasse: maybe if i relog it would change something?
[07:39] <ducasse> ignoo: did you run the chown command i gave you?
[07:39] <ignoo> yes..
[07:40] <ducasse> ignoo: ok. if apt behaves well now and clearing the cache doesn't help, i'm not sure what else to try. are you sure you're fully updated?
[07:40] <ignoo> chown: changing ownership of '/home/ignoo/.cache/doc/by-app': Function not implemented         chown: changing ownership of '/home/ignoo/.cache/doc': Function not implemented                 chown: changing ownership of '/home/ignoo/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log.old': Input/output error
[07:41] <ducasse> ignoo: input/output error - that's not good. usually means disk problems...
[07:41] <ignoo> not possible.
[07:41] <alkisg> pewpewpew: I replied to you in a PM
[07:41] <ignoo> disk is good
[07:42] <ignoo> maybe it's cause i encrypted files?
[07:42] <ignoo> O_O
[07:43] <ignoo> (just with the basic encryption feature that gives with the installation, nothing special.)
[07:44] <ducasse> ignoo: what does 'dmesg | tail' say?
[07:44] <ignoo> btw my sudo seems to not be so powerful XD
[07:44] <vijaikumar> i think your upgrade wasn't so clean
[07:46] <ducasse> ignoo: if i were to guess, you had some ppas active before you upgraded?
[07:46] <ignoo> okay wait i pastebin it.
[07:47] <ignoo> https://pastebin.com/63UM15b0
[07:48] <ignoo> ducasse: yes but it deactivated when upgrading.
[07:48] <ducasse> ignoo: not enough, you should ppa-purge them before starting the upgrade
[07:48] <ignoo> ducasse: it does by default, but when upgraded i found more ppas than i had before.
[07:49] <ducasse> ignoo: seems there was an error with your encrypted home, probably not the source of the gnome-software issue, though.
[07:50] <ignoo> (not just talking about the canonical ones it added because of the new version, the old ones. (might be because it splitted the multiverse- universe, etc..
[07:50] <ducasse> ignoo: no, it doesn't purge them, it just disables them. that's not enough to assure a clean upgrade
[07:53] <ignoo> ok so..all defenses i can have after upgrade are useless? must set up all that again? i just came back to linux to not let villains spy on my net cause i met bullies around and just wanted some peace of mind..but now that updated brought me back to the beginning.. i'm getting frustrated and depressed.
[07:53] <ignoo> XD
[07:54] <ducasse> ignoo: i can't tell you exactly what is wrong, but in all likelihood it's something to do with an unclean upgrade due to third-party packages.
[07:55] <alkisg> ignoo: what's the current problem now, apt works and software-center doesn't open?
[07:56] <ducasse> alkisg: gnome-software doesn't display very much :)
[07:56] <alkisg> ducasse: it only displays a few packages instead of many?
[07:56] <alkisg> Is that gnome-software, or ubuntu's software-center?
[07:57] <ducasse> alkisg: nothing, aiui. gnome-software.
[07:57] <ignoo> alkisg:the gnome-software center does open, but show nothing,no downloads,no installed files, no updates.  the software & updates stuff doesn't open.
[07:57] <alkisg> ignoo: ok try to bypass it for just a moment. sudo apt install synaptic; and then run synaptic from the menu
[07:57] <alkisg> Does that one work fine?
[07:58] <ignoo> ducasse: if ubuntu provided proper security i wouldn't have the need to torrify my OS.
[07:58] <ignoo> well i purged torsocks.
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: nothing to do with ubuntu if you add external ppa's as i said before
[07:59] <ducasse> ignoo: what doesn't ubuntu do that tor fixes?
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> ignoo: if you install a fresh install of ubuntu, you would see a gmome-software working nicely
[08:01] <ignoo> alkisg: ok i got synaptics.
[08:01] <Kryptonian> apache server works!!! sorry super excited making progress
[08:01] <alkisg> ignoo: does it works properly, allowing you to install packages, giving you access to repositories etc?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Kryptonian
[08:03] <ignoo> alkisg: seems to work properly, yeah
[08:03] <alkisg> ignoo: ok nice. Now close it, and run: ps aux|grep soft, what's the output?
[08:08] <ignoo> https://pastebin.com/Yyuzgadu
[08:08] <ignoo> am I sick? O_O
[08:09] <alkisg> ignoo: now run these: sudo kill 2202 3244 31738; and then without sudo, as the user, type: gnome-software
[08:09] <alkisg> This will allow you to restart the gnome-software service, so that you can see the error output
[08:10] <alkisg> Paste the errors you see to pastebin
[08:12] <ignoo> alkisg : are you a magician? O_O
[08:12] <ignoo> cause I'm impressed.
[08:12] <ignoo> :)
[08:12]  * alkisg puts the bunny back in the hat...
[08:12] <vijaikumar> :P
[08:14] <currybullen> does ubuntu use ssh-agent out of the box?
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> !info ssh-agent
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> !info ssh-client
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> !info openssh-client
[08:16] <ducasse> currybullen: iirc, ubuntu desktop uses gnome-keyring-daemon by default instead
[08:17] <ignoo> alkisg: hope this wasn't because of torsocks...I liked the concept behind it...
[08:17] <alkisg> ignoo: I don't know what torsocks is, but if it's an official package from the repositories, it shouldn't matter
[08:18] <ignoo> O_O maybe if i encounter that issue again i should find out some way to not interfere with basic ubuntu features..well i'd have some study to do...
[08:18] <MacroMan> 'apt update' is giving a 'does not have a Release file' error, but I don't know how to fix it: https://paste.ngx.cc/996ff2f0dff23d38
[08:18] <MacroMan> Google was no help
[08:19] <MacroMan> Any idea how to fix this? Do I need to download a 'Release' from somewhere?
[08:20] <ignoo> thank you guys you really helped me a lot, it is always nice to learn something new too :)
[08:20] <ignoo> have fun i go off now i am stressed and tired..but happy :)
[08:21] <geirha> MacroMan: looks like the deb.nodesource.com is missing at least one exepected file. Not much you can do about that until they fix it
[08:21] <ducasse> MacroMan: that's not an ubuntu repository, talk to the maintainers
[08:21] <MacroMan> ducasse: So the node repository is broken?
[08:22] <MacroMan> And I'm the first to report it? I think not
[08:23] <MacroMan> Actually, this has been reported, but they said it's not them. However the bug offers no solution for me: https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/issues/285
[08:24] <MacroMan> So I think it's a problem on my system.
[08:24] <Ben64> MacroMan: looks like a problem with their repo
[08:27] <geirha> so most of them in that bug get that problem due to using an apt proxy. That's not the case for you?
[08:27] <MacroMan> No
[08:28] <MacroMan> Plus, I've just run 'apt update' on another machine, also with node 6 installed and it runs fine
[08:29] <ducasse> MacroMan: check if apt-transport-https is installed
[08:30] <MacroMan> Yes, and up to date
[08:36] <geirha> so:  ''env | grep -ri proxy - /etc/apt/''    outputs nothing, and  ''curl https://deb.nodesource.com/node_6.x/dists/xenial/Release'' does not complain about any ssl certificate issues?
[08:37] <mitmf> how can i install gimp?
[08:37] <MacroMan> Ah it does: curl: (77) Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)
[08:37] <geirha> open the ubuntu software app, earch for gimp, click install
[08:37] <geirha> *search
[08:38] <mitmf> No one is here?
[08:38] <MacroMan> mitmf: Or in a terminal: 'sudo apt install gimp'
[08:38] <geirha> MacroMan: was mentioned by this comment  https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/issues/285#issuecomment-284012363
[08:38] <mitmf> thanks MacroMan :)
[08:39] <MacroMan> geirha: Thanks. I seem to be missing 'ca-certificates.crt' entirley
[08:40] <MacroMan> However the ca-certificates package is installed
[08:42] <MacroMan> https://paste.ngx.cc/ad025b1f4f412a5d
[08:43] <geirha> looks like ca-certificates.crt gets generated with the update-ca-certificates command
[08:44] <MacroMan> Yay. It worked.
[08:44] <MacroMan> Thank you
[08:44] <geirha> odd that the file was gone though
[08:45] <MacroMan> Thinking about it, I did remove a crt file yesterday. Not to ca one, but it must of affected it.
[08:54] <MacroMan> OK, I've got the same problem as I had yesterday that I tried to fix myself. I've got a rouge certificate that I added at some point in the past, that is now causing me problems
[08:55] <MacroMan> I've had a loog through /etc/ssl/certs/ but I can't find it by nam
[08:55] <MacroMan> name*
[08:55] <MacroMan> Unfortunately, the certificate viewer in Chrome, doesn't give me a file path
[08:58] <MacroMan> OK, never mind. I found it in /etc/ssl/private/
[09:00] <xcom169> Hello All!
[09:01] <xcom169> I played with PPA kernels, and now with my stock kernel the GUI freezes. Please help
[09:01] <linuxnew> hi
[09:01] <linuxnew> i am using ubuntu 14.04
[09:02] <linuxnew> cannot locate the trash can... the drive is so ful that even the desktop is no longer responding
[09:02] <linuxnew> all i can do is ssh into the machine
[09:02] <linuxnew> i tried getting to .local/trash but the trash folder is not there...
[09:02] <linuxnew> kindly assist... machine is stuck
[09:07] <kabiigon> hi is there a way to right click a bunch of items create a folder with selected items
[09:08] <tatertotz> kabiigon: i would think the folder would need to exist and be touched first
[09:09] <tatertotz> kabiigon: clicking files should come second
[09:09] <linuxnew> sorry kindly assist with cli command for emptying trash can
[09:09] <linuxnew> the whole disk shows as full
[09:10] <linuxnew> and cannot access to the dektop via UI it gets stuck
[09:10] <kabiigon> linuxnew, are you sure its not just random generated log files
[09:10] <linuxnew> only able to access the clue
[09:10] <linuxnew> very sure
[09:10] <linuxnew> i was testing transmission
[09:11] <linuxnew> so i kept adding torrents and deleted then all
[09:11] <linuxnew> without emptying trash
[09:11] <kabiigon> go to your transmission download folder and clear it
[09:11] <linuxnew> next login wont let me view desktop
[09:11] <kabiigon> i believe its located in .trash
[09:11] <linuxnew> i have deleted thos already
[09:11] <linuxnew> then ended up in trrash
[09:11] <linuxnew> which i cannot access
[09:11] <linuxnew> ubuntu 14.04
[09:12] <Ben64> you said you can ssh in, so do that and find where the space is being taken up
[09:13] <Ben64> if that even is the issue
[09:13] <linuxnew> plese advise how i can check that ... like look for larget file
[09:13] <linuxnew> i am not familiar with cli
[09:13] <Ben64> first, what does 'df -h' show
[09:14] <linuxnew> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/root       7.3G  7.0G     0 100% / devtmpfs        168M  4.0K  168M   1% /dev none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup none             45M  644K   45M   2% /run
[09:14] <linuxnew> 8gb USB
[09:14] <linuxnew> all full
[09:14] <kabiigon> its not mounting the hard drive
[09:15] <kabiigon> open up disks
[09:15] <kabiigon> and mount the hard drive
[09:15] <Ben64> linuxnew: what kind of system is this
[09:15] <linuxnew> lubuntu 1404
[09:15] <Ben64> i mean the actual computer
[09:16] <linuxnew> its a tiny DBC
[09:16] <linuxnew> SBC
[09:16] <linuxnew> i purchased to try and see what linux is
[09:16] <Ben64> probably not ubuntu then
[09:17] <linuxnew> pi with lubuntu for ARM
[09:17] <kabiigon> there we go
[09:17] <Ben64> use a combination of "du -hd1" , cd, and rm to fix your problem
[09:17] <linuxnew> Ok thanks
[09:17] <linuxnew> let me google the meaning of these commands lol
[09:18] <linuxnew> ohh diskusage
[09:18] <kabiigon> Ben64, ive been a mac user for years newish to ubuntu
[09:18] <linuxnew> and find and delete
[09:18] <Ben64> kabiigon: ok
[09:18] <kabiigon> one feature os x had that I want to recreate
[09:19] <kabiigon> Right Click a bunch of items and created a folder with selected items
[09:20] <linuxnew> foudn it!
[09:20] <kabiigon> OS X does it seamlessly
[09:20] <linuxnew> thanks ben10
[09:20] <kabiigon> its ben64
[09:20] <kabiigon> not ben10
[09:20] <linuxnew> sry
[09:20] <linuxnew> too exicted that finally its working
[09:20] <linuxnew> thanks
[09:24] <kabiigon> Ben64, am i making sense
[09:26] <Ben64> i guess
[09:38] <mfrw> hi I was facing trouble installing grub
[09:38] <mfrw> \exit
[09:52] <xcom169> I played with PPA kernels, and now with my stock kernel the GUI freezes. Please help
[09:55] <MrHooper> xcom169: I would find a way to revert the changes you made
[09:57] <xcom169> MrHooper: do you know how to start ubuntu in CLI mode?
[09:58] <MrHooper> xcom169: if you boot up you can change to the TTY by using ctrl+alt and then F[1-6]
[09:59] <MrHooper> xcom169: you should be able to login and undo some of your changes
[09:59] <xcom169> MrHooper: If I boot up to GUI then it freeze in 30 sec. I'd boot only to CLI
[10:00] <xcom169> MrHooper: strange that it freeze, but my mouse still moves :) ctrl + alt 1-6 doesn't work
[10:00] <araifr> ctrl+alt+F[1-6]
[10:00] <xcom169> araifr: yes, F1 F6
[10:04] <sylario> Maybe not the right chan : I installed oh my zsh and also the fonts : https://github.com/powerline/fonts but after sucessful fonts install it still does not display the zsh theme correctly
[10:05] <sylario> The fonts are installed in ~/.local/share/fonts , is there a last step to do to make the fonts available to zsh ?
[10:15] <dalareo> part
[10:16] <svs> hi all, I'm getting this odd error while launching apt-get -f install: https://dpaste.de/VP1w#L21,29 any thoughts?
[10:18] <Ben64> svs: looks like you're in a really bad state
[10:18] <svs> Ben64: you're probably right, as I can't install, uninstall or do anythi8ng with the packages on the system
[10:19] <svs> any idea what's causing this?
[10:20] <Ben64> svs: whats the output of 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/HEAD'
[10:20] <svs> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/HEAD
[10:21] <Ben64> svs: ls -l /usr/bin/HEAD
[10:22] <svs> it doesn't exist
[10:22] <svs> ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/HEAD': No such file or directory
[10:22] <svs> this happened after I tried to install terminator, a terminal app for splitting the window into multiple terms
[10:23] <Ben64> is this actually linux
[10:25] <svs> it's Ubuntu installed on Windows 10 Subsystem for Linux
[10:25] <Ben64> support for that is in #ubuntu-on-windows then
[10:25] <svs> oh, thanks a lot! didn't know there's any separate support for that :-D
[10:26] <Ben64> yeah no problem
[10:26] <Ben64> seems like some windows specific issue, i wouldn't know where to start on it
[10:35] <IhrFussel> Overwriting a file on my dedi takes 10-30ms while appending to a file takes 0ms ... why is there such a HUGE gap?
[10:42] <de-facto> Playung around with Realtek 8812au usb wifi dongle and getting loads of "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready" dmesg entries: does that mean the "rtl8812au-dkms" driver in the repos is obsolete?
[10:42] <de-facto> the interface does not come up properly it seems
[10:48] <hateball> de-facto: realtek drivers are usually absolutely terrible
[10:54] <glachas> I have Ubuntu 16.04 alongwith windows 8 installed in my system. Now, while booting Ubuntu it's showing "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). I don't know what to do next.
[10:55] <de-facto> hateball, yeah seems they are, though i was hoping to get 802.11ac working with those. there are some github repos with newer versions like https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8812AU and https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au
[10:55] <hateball> de-facto: all I can say is "good luck"
[10:55] <de-facto> you think its worth trying to compile some of those instead of the official repo versions? they target raspbian platform afaik
[10:56] <hateball> I gave up trying to get realtek stuff working, at all, a few years ago. Intel, Atheros or Broadcom are safer bets
[10:56] <ezra-s> glachas: grab an installation media and try to rescue
[10:56] <de-facto> i thought since there are open source drivers that dongle would be worth a look, athough those drivers dont emply mac80211 kernel module
[10:56] <de-facto> only cfg80211
[10:58] <glachas> ezra-s: u r saying to use live disk. But I don't have any idea how to use it to solve it.
[11:01] <pluszak> I want anacron to run @daily tasks in cron.d. Do I have to do anything else than "apt install anacron"?
[11:01] <ezra-s> glachas: too long and complex to explain in here easily, try this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[11:02] <Linkandzelda> can someone tell me how to fix this: apt-get stuck: 0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::19)]
[11:03] <pankaj_> How can I generate UUID for a device on linux?
[11:03] <ezra-s> glachas: and/or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[11:05] <pluszak> Linkandzelda: check network connection
[11:05] <ezra-s> pankaj_: try with blkid command line tool or if you really want to generate one uuidgen
[11:06] <Linkandzelda> pluszak: reboot fixed it
[11:06] <pankaj_> ezra-s: I thought that 'uuidgen' would need a device name as parameter but it does not. So, it means that we have to assign it to a device.
[11:11] <mhvdrone> is there a way to print from command line besides lp?
[11:11] <mhvdrone> i can't get it to print my pdf with proper positioning
[11:12] <mhvdrone> works fine through the gui with document viewer
[11:14] <ezra-s> mhvdrone: perhaps you haven't set the correct size of paper for lpr to use and haven't used the option to fit to page?
[11:14] <Zeljko> Hi
[11:14] <Zeljko> root@irc:~# yum install libstdc++.i386
[11:14] <Zeljko> There are no enabled repos.
[11:15] <ezra-s> Zeljko: this is ubuntu, not redhat, fedora or similar
[11:15] <Zeljko> lol
[11:15] <Zeljko> um using fkn ubuntu 14.04
[11:15] <Zeljko> whats the problem ?
[11:16] <mhvdrone> yum is not ubuntu
[11:16] <ezra-s> Zeljko: package manager is apt-get not yum
[11:16] <Zeljko> ezra-s im installing Ampps and i need to use yum
[11:17] <bazhang> Zeljko, what apps need yum
[11:17] <Zeljko> cause i have a prob with libstdc++.i386
[11:17] <mhvdrone> ezra-s: I'm pretty sure I've got the page size correct. fit-to-page helps a bit, but I don't want to scale. it looks like maybe the gui is aligning the bottoms while lp aligns the tops? is that a thing?
[11:18] <ezra-s> mhvdrone: pretty sure is not the same thing as 100% sure, try with the -o media= option
[11:19] <glachas> ezra-s: I'll try. Thank
[11:19] <glachas> ezra-s: what does press return means in step 6
[11:20] <mhvdrone> by pretty sure I mean I'm using media, Size and PageSize.
[11:20] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:20] <Zeljko> how to resolve that
[11:20] <ezra-s> glachas: you kidding me?
[11:23] <Zeljko> hey
[11:24] <bazhang> Zeljko, give us all the info on a single line, not two words and enter
[11:24] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:24] <Zeljko> cant install ampps
[11:24] <bazhang> Zeljko, why would you ever need yum
[11:24] <bazhang> Zeljko, all on ONE line
[11:24] <Zeljko> bazhang because ampps support told me to do with it
[11:24] <bazhang> Zeljko, what is ampps
[11:25] <Zeljko> free open source web server
[11:25] <bazhang> Zeljko, did you mean LAMP
[11:25] <Zeljko> its something like LAMP
[11:25] <Zeljko> but in ampps you have 30+ scrips to install
[11:26] <bazhang> Zeljko, you dont need yum for lamp at all, and thats what we support here
[11:26] <ezra-s> sounds like trash
[11:26] <bazhang> Zeljko, is this even ubuntu
[11:26] <Zeljko> bazhang my question is how to resolve
[11:26] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:26] <codezera> wtf is ampps? :\
[11:26] <bazhang> Zeljko, we dont support ampps here
[11:27] <bazhang> Zeljko, what version of ubuntu is this
[11:27] <Zeljko> 14.04
[11:27] <Zeljko> im not talking about fkn ampps
[11:27] <Zeljko> im talking about an error
[11:27] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:27] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:27] <Zeljko> libstdc++.so.6 error
[11:27] <bazhang> Zeljko, then get lamp
[11:28] <codezera> LAMP = Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP
[11:28] <codezera> AMPP = ?????
[11:28] <ezra-s> Zeljko: perhaps you should ask the provider of those packages , if you use third party package managers in any distro you are in for all sorts of trouble
[11:30] <pankaj_> I understand UUID but is their any hierarchical data structure which assigns it to files and directories so that I can understand that how they are assigned to them.
[11:30] <tatertotz> pankaj_: what is the actual real problem you are having?
[11:30] <bazhang> !fhs | pankaj_
[11:31] <pankaj_> tatertotz: Sorry. But what was that? A question or comment.
[11:32] <bazhang> pankaj_, see above
[11:34] <pankaj_> ubottu: Thanks. But I was thinking that their must be a logic with inode numbers so that I can predict the next inode number my system will assign if i create a new directory.
[11:34] <codezera> loool
[11:35] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm currently in the process of installing tensorflow (with GPU support). Now one of the first steps is to install the nvidia cuda toolkit
[11:35] <Anticom> there is a package "nvidia-cuda-toolkit" in the official repos
[11:35] <pankaj_> tatertotz: Is their any thing which Inode number specify after seeing it. Example: first two digits mean this and second two that?
[11:35] <Anticom> (I'm on 16.04)
[11:35] <Anticom> Is there any reason not to use this one?
[11:38] <Anticom> Reason i'm asking is that a lot of people seem to prefer downloading the package from nvidia and installing it manually
[11:39] <Anticom> Oh i see why. It's only version 7.x but i need 8.x for tensorflow
[11:41] <hateball> Anticom: if you need updated nvidia driver you can use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:41] <hateball> Anticom: but it does not have the cuda toolkit tho
[11:42] <Anticom> hateball: Okay so i would need manual installation if i wanted the cuda toolkit 8.x i suppose
[11:42] <Anticom> meh, then i'll rather wait
[11:42] <Anticom> got enough other projects to do :D
[11:42] <Anticom> But thanks for the ppa. This one will come in handy anyway
[11:43] <hateball> :)
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:32] <Dani-hp> Hello, when i create a symlink to a bash script and double click the symlink it opens the script in gedit instead of executing the script. The +x flag on the target is set..
[12:32] <Dani-hp> What am i doing wrong? :)
[12:32] <ezra-s> Dani-hp: using a GUI instead of running it from terminal, probably :)
[12:33] <Dani-hp> yeah - but cant i define that it should execute instead of editing?
[12:34] <Dani-hp> by terminal (not gui=
[12:35] <ezra-s> Dani-hp: right click, properties... tried that yet?
[12:35] <ioria> Dani-hp, depends on your file manager
[12:36] <Dani-hp> well i want to set it via terminal
[12:36] <Dani-hp> if possible
[12:37] <ioria> Dani-hp, to run a script with a d-click , in nautilus you set the file preferences -> behavior
[12:37] <ezra-s> you want to click on gui and execute , you don't want to run it in terminal, but want to set in terminal so GUI runs it... is that it?
[12:38] <ioria> Dani-hp, in general, not a good idea
[12:38] <Dani-hp> I want a symlink in the /etc/skel/Desktop dir which points to an executable shell script
[12:38] <Dani-hp> so everyone can just double click it and launch it from the desktop
[12:39] <ezra-s> Dani-hp: perhaps you should define it like the entries in /usr/share/applications much better
[12:39] <ioria> Dani-hp, advice against that
[12:39] <Dani-hp> i already have a desktop file for the script
[12:41] <ezra-s> Dani-hp: Terminal=true ?
[12:41] <Dani-hp> jep
[12:41] <ezra-s> a+x permissions?
[12:41] <Dani-hp> i also edited the unity launcher to have the desktop entry as default
[12:42] <ioria> Dani-hp, it's a 'real' script  (.sh) or a .desktop  file ?
[12:42] <Dani-hp> i got a .desktop file which links to the .sh script
[12:42] <Dani-hp> links is the wrong word
[12:42] <Dani-hp> just executes the .sh sript
[12:43] <ioria> Dani-hp, ok, it should work then
[12:43] <Dani-hp> that's what i tought too :D
[12:43] <ezra-s> Dani-hp: original script has a+x permissions?
[12:43] <ioria> Dani-hp,  an error in the .desktop , mainly in the Exec line ; can you paste it ?
[12:46] <Dani-hp> [Desktop Entry]
[12:46] <Dani-hp> Exec=/usr/bin/adm_vpn
[12:46] <Dani-hp> Type=Application
[12:46] <Dani-hp> Icon=applications-internet
[12:46] <Dani-hp> Name=VPN-Adm
[12:46] <Dani-hp> Terminal=true
[12:46] <ioria> Dani-hp,  not here, please, on paste.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <Dani-hp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25731985/
[12:50] <ioria> Dani-hp,  the .desktop file is on your desktop ?
[12:52] <Dani-hp> nope /usr/share/applications
[12:53] <ioria> Dani-hp,  so you want to call it from dash ?
[12:55] <Dani-hp> yeah
[12:55] <Dani-hp> i want to create an user
[12:55] <ioria> Dani-hp,  btw, a better place would be  ~/.local/share/applications
[12:55] <Dani-hp> which automaticaly has an icon on desktop
[12:55] <Dani-hp> to start the script
[12:56] <Dani-hp> it should be global
[12:56] <Dani-hp> for all newly created user
[12:56] <Dani-hp> so i want to place the link in the skel folder
[13:09] <EriC^^> Dani-hp: maybe put in the skel dir a tiny script that on first login it moves the .desktop file to the ~/Desktop ?
[13:10] <EriC^^> put it in /etc/skel/.profile
[13:12] <unholymachine> Dani-hp: i would put it in /etc/skel/Desktop
[13:13] <d0uglas> Hi guys. So I installed everything on an old HDD, just bought an SSD, want to move everything over to it, same fs. The hard drive is smaller than the SSD, and the hard drive is one partition. Am I safe even though they are different sizes or am I asking for trouble if I use dd to clone? thanks
[13:13] <EriC^^> unholymachine: nice
[13:14] <EriC^^> didn't know it can also create dirs there, cool
[13:15] <unholymachine> yup :) . . . gotta use sudo though to create the directory
[13:15] <unholymachine> d0uglas: you're safe
[13:15] <unholymachine> just use clonezilla and clone to the new , larger, hard-drive
[13:16] <unholymachine> oh, you want to use dd
[13:16] <EriC^^> d0uglas: you'll be wasting space on the ssd though, how bigger is it than the hdd?
[13:16] <unholymachine> hrm .. .
[13:16] <unholymachine> i've never actually used dd to clone different sized hard drives
[13:16] <d0uglas> ahh clonezilla. Okay so cloning from a smaller drive will not create a partition of the same size on the larger new drive thereby not giving me a partition filling the whole disk?
[13:17] <unholymachine> no
[13:17] <EriC^^> he just did it
[13:17] <unholymachine> clonezilla takes care of it all when it comes to linux file systems
[13:17] <unholymachine> only in windows do you need to worry about resizing the new file system on the larger hard drive
[13:18] <d0uglas> lost my connection.. anyway, if i use dd, does this sound about right -- dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sd(new-drive) bs=64K conv=noerror,sync status=progress  ?
[13:20] <d0uglas> ahh I'll try it and see or just use clonezilla as you suggested -- I'm good for now, thanks
[13:20] <EriC^^> d0uglas: use clonezilla
[13:20] <d0uglas> yay going from an eleven year old drive to one of these fancy 3d nand things.. 3d, that sounds fast! hah
[13:21] <d0uglas> okay I will
[13:22] <alkisg> d0uglas: you can clone with dd and resize with gparted if you prefer
[13:22] <ezra-s> d0uglas: fasten seat belt first
[13:22] <d0uglas> resizing makes me nervous
[13:24] <d0uglas> Gotta say it is a great luxury to have you guys and other freenode channels available for top shelf help. Grateful, thank you.
[13:36] <Dani-hp> (03:12:25 PM) unholymachine: Dani-hp: i would put it in /etc/skel/Desktop
[13:37] <Dani-hp> what would you put there?
[13:39] <EriC^^> Dani-hp: i think he meant the .desktop file
[13:40] <Dani-hp> but then it's copied 50 times
[13:40] <Dani-hp> which makes no sense if i have to make a change anytime
[13:40] <Dani-hp> that's why i want to link it to a global place
[13:49] <EriC^^> Dani-hp: put symlink for the .desktop file in /etc/skel/Desktop then
[13:51] <EriC^^> Dani-hp: ln -s /path/.desktop /etc/skel/Desktop/clickhere.desktop
[13:54] <Dani-hp> i did eric
[13:54] <Dani-hp> doesn't execute - just open's the file
[13:55] <EriC^^> Dani-hp: make the file +x
[13:55] <Dani-hp> it is
[13:55] <EriC^^> chmod +x /etc/skel/Desktop/clickhere.desktop
[13:55] <EriC^^> no the symlink itself
[13:55] <Dani-hp> yeah
[13:55] <EriC^^> is it .desktop ?
[13:56] <EriC^^> i tried it here, it works, so something must be missing on yours
[13:56] <EriC^^> first it opened the file in gedit, then it opened the app, after changing it to .desktop and +x
[13:56] <Dani-hp> wtf
[13:56] <Dani-hp> recreated the same way
[13:56] <Dani-hp> now it works :(
[13:56] <EriC^^> magic
[13:56] <EriC^^> :D
[13:57] <Dani-hp> it's friday
[13:57] <Dani-hp> i need weekend srsly
[13:57] <glitsj16> friday the 13th even
[14:08] <rockyh> Hi!
[14:09] <rockyh> I run Chromium 61 (the Ubuntu build), and it keeps showing that Adobe Flash player is not up-to-date
[14:10] <rockyh> On the top of sites, a yellow-ish bar appears: "Adobe Flash player has been blocked because it is not updated"
[14:10] <rockyh> I am on Ubuntu 16.04, and I made all the updates
[14:10] <rockyh> what can be the reason for this?
[14:11] <leftyfb> rockyh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[14:12] <oerheks_> rockyh, maybe that message is fake, carefull
[14:12] <oerheks_> this is the latest ...
[14:12] <oerheks_> !info flashplugin-installer xenial
[14:13] <Southern_Gentlem> flash for linux is way behind on the version compared to the windows version
[14:13] <oerheks_> flash is dead, use html5 only
[14:13] <rockyh> oerheks_: how can I check my version? Anyway, it updated yesterday from aptitude
[14:14] <rockyh> I would like to use HTML5 only, but I don't know how
[14:15] <leftyfb> rockyh: don't install flash and flash won't load at all. HTML5 will where supported
[14:15] <oerheks_> dpkg -s flashplugin-installer | grep '^Version:'
[14:15] <oerheks_> or look in synaptic
[14:16] <rockyh> leftyfb: I think flash was automatically installed with Ubuntu
[14:16] <leftyfb> rockyh: negative
[14:16] <oerheks_> it comes with restricted extras
[14:16] <oerheks_> else you don't run ubuntu, but a fork
[14:16] <rockyh> ubottu: I have installed the same version
[14:17] <rockyh> Ubuntu Gnome
[14:32] <freebyte> Hi folks, i'm planning to install ubuntu on an zenbook 3. I was wondering if there is a NVME ssd driver on the latest LTS (xenial) ?
[14:36] <oerheks_> freebyte, sure, /dev/nvme0n1 .. take a read https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2016/04/21/ubuntu-16-04-xubuntu-16-04-and-the-samsung-950-pro-256g-m-2/
[14:39] <BluesKaj> freebyte, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man4/nvme.4freebsd.html
[14:41] <element> I'm having trouble creating my own systemd service to start on boot. I've run systemctl start horizon and enable horizon, both run successfully. However, on reboot, it's not starting up. https://kopy.io/JQmZ7#nwXWQ9S7lqkoL9
[14:42] <freebyte> BluesKaj: thx
[14:42] <BluesKaj> freebyte, yw
[14:54] <skinux> I'm using Cinnamon desktop, sometimes the panel goes weird where two apps are over-layed...how do I fix this?
[15:01] <ruicruz> hello there. I've a muvit bluetooth speaker that in Windows I just plug in the USB and it's detected as a sound device. on ubunt I don't have the same effect. How can I make it act like a sound device?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, does lsusb in the console show the bt device
[15:16] <Thyriaen> I would like to disable the hardware cursor ( as suggested by redshift to make it work ) and it suggests to edit /etc/X11//etc/X11/xorg.conf.d however that directory does not exsist nor the file inside it i should edit
[15:19] <oerheks_> Thyriaen, url?
[15:20] <ruicruz> BluesKaj checking, hold on.
[15:20] <Thyriaen> oerheks_, http://jonls.dk/redshift/ at the bottom at known bugs
[15:21] <oerheks_> "hen your graphics driver is configured to use hardware cursors"  .. never seen it on ubuntu AFAIK
[15:22] <ruicruz> BluesKaj nop... nothing. so it means I'm screwd, right? :(
[15:22] <Thyriaen> oerheks_, well i get a really blueish looking cursor at night :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, try every usb port
[15:24] <ruicruz> BluesKaj try taht already
[15:24] <ruicruz> and with a diferent cable too
[15:24] <ruicruz> on windows it autodetects. on linux... nothing. its a dual boot, so, same hardware is used.
[15:25] <ruicruz> *that
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, I assume you have bluetooth support installed
[15:26] <oerheks_> Thyriaen, oke, but standard there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf , create one, and put in what you need to do.. that site gives no clue what..
[15:27] <ruicruz> BluesKaj yes. and bluetooth is on. however I don't use bluetooth for this particular speaker. it detects via usb, on windows its a usb sound card.
[15:27] <ruicruz> I believe I can use it as bluetooth, but it will be slower.
[15:27] <ruicruz> I only use bt for the smartphone and tablet
[15:27] <Thyriaen> oerheks_, yea thats why i dunno what to do :)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, oops  , wrong chan
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, if it's bt capable then slower is better than nothing
[15:30] <ruicruz> i agree. I was trying to get it working the best way possible.
[15:30] <ruicruz> but, to resume it all, if it's not on lusb, no hope to get it working, right?
[15:31] <ruicruz> lsusb*
[15:33] <BluesKaj> well, it probly needs a module/driver, if you can find a linux driver by doing a maker's search
[15:33] <new_ubuntuer> hello everyone
[15:33] <new_ubuntuer> I have files like file.txt, file.zip
[15:34] <new_ubuntuer> file.anytext
[15:34] <new_ubuntuer> and when I type rm file.*
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !enter
[15:34] <BluesKaj> new_ubuntuer,^
[15:34] <new_ubuntuer> sorry
[15:35] <new_ubuntuer> it removes all file.anytext but I want to keep file.txt and remove all other file.extention
[15:37] <nacc> new_ubuntuer: then you need to use a different regex
[15:38] <tomreyn> rm only does globbing though, doesn't it?
[15:38] <nacc> tomreyn: err, yes, glob not regex, you're right
[15:38] <new_ubuntuer> if any one have confusion one line : I have files in folder as file.extention so when I enter command < rm file.* > it removes all file.extention files but I don't want to remove file.specific_extention
[15:39] <nicomachus> how can I tell which greeter I'm using?
[15:40] <nacc> tomreyn: yeah, i mean it's the shell globbing
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ruicruz, what make/model is the speaker ?
[15:40] <tomreyn> nacc: right. my point is oyou can't do it with just 'rm', i think
[15:40] <nacc> tomreyn: yep, I don't think you can either, upon reflection
[15:40] <nacc> new_ubuntuer: --^
[15:40] <new_ubuntuer> so what is alternative
[15:41] <tomreyn> 'find' can do regular expressions and can do exceptions
[15:41] <nacc> new_ubuntuer: save the file you want to not rm somewhere else and then rm the rest?
[15:41] <nacc> new_ubuntuer: use an interactive rm and don't rm the one you want to keep
[15:43] <aware-kind> I upgraded the following packages and now the only resolution available on my Ubuntu 17.04 is 800x600. Here are the packages: xserver-common:amd64, xserver-xorg-core:amd64, xserver-xorg-legacy:amd64 and xmir:amd64
[15:44] <tomreyn> or find -type f -regex PATTERN -rm (but tst without -rm first)
[15:44] <hggdh> new_ubuntuer: have a look at the bash environment variable GLOBIGNORE
[15:44] <oerheks_> nicomachus, lightdm --show-config |& awk -F= '/greeter-session=/{print $2}'
[15:45] <tomreyn> oh GLOBIGNORE is nice, i never knew
[15:45] <nacc> hggdh: ah nice, +1
[15:45] <hggdh> tomreyn: yes, it is, but I think it is a bashism
[15:46] <nicomachus> oerheks_: what if it's not lightdm
[15:46] <tomreyn> yes looks like a bashism. works for me ;)
[15:46] <oerheks_> nicomachus, find out what DM > dpkg-query -l '*dm'
[15:46] <oerheks_> GDM perhaps?
[15:46] <nicomachus> oerheks_: output there was unity-greeter... odd.
[15:47] <nicomachus> for the lightdm command.
[15:48] <oerheks_> nicomachus, i run unity too,  so..
[15:49] <new_ubuntuer> so no other way to keep one specific file.extention and remove file.all_other_extention
[15:51] <hggdh> new_ubuntuer: as I said above: export GLOBIGNORE=*.txt:another.file; rm -y file.* # the -y is there so that you can confirm your ignore pattern is correct
[15:52] <new_ubuntuer> ok
[15:52] <new_ubuntuer> actually I was disconnected
[15:52] <nicomachus> oerheks_: I don't run unity. lol
[15:52] <tomreyn> rm -i, not rm -y
[15:52] <hggdh> ah, OK. No prob
[15:52] <hggdh> tomreyn: darn! you are correct. new_ubuntuer ^^
[15:53] <hggdh> sigh. typing before coffee does that
[15:53] <tomreyn> np, it would just fail with -y ;)
[15:55] <new_ubuntuer> I made little snippet of commands as I am use to of this commands :) : https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwlY5ypnEiK
[15:56] <tomreyn> config.* does not match tile.txt though
[15:56] <new_ubuntuer> correct one :D : https://thepasteb.in/p/JZhpEv73O2OTg
[15:57] <tomreyn> last step should be "rmdir temp"
[15:57] <tomreyn> plus "cd .." before
[15:58] <tomreyn> also txt.* does not match file.txt ;)
[15:58] <new_ubuntuer> now :vhttps://thepasteb.in/p/8qhOp074PQmH0
[15:58] <new_ubuntuer> now : https://thepasteb.in/p/8qhOp074PQmH0
[15:59] <tomreyn> the last line's still wrong
[16:00] <tomreyn> you want "to cd ..; rmdir temp"
[16:00] <new_ubuntuer> now : https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQ3Wj3PlJcR
[16:02] <tomreyn> this might work. or jýou could just use the shell globbing approach: export GLOBIGNORE=config.txt; echo verify it's gone; ls config.*; read -p 'Press enter to continue or ctrl-c to cancel' LINE; rm config.*
[16:02] <tomreyn> and finally: unset GLOBIGNORE
[16:03] <new_ubuntuer> let me try this
[16:04] <element> I'm having trouble creating my own systemd service to start on boot. I've run systemctl start horizon and enable horizon, both run successfully. However, on reboot, it's not starting up. https://kopy.io/JQmZ7#nwXWQ9S7lqkoL9
[16:04] <tomreyn> new_ubuntuer: this should have been: echo "verify it's gone"
[16:05] <new_ubuntuer> will this work without creating shell script
[16:05] <new_ubuntuer> and just paste command to terminal
[16:06] <tomreyn> yes, after all a shell script is just a series of commands which can also be written in one line, sepearated by ;
[16:07] <tomreyn> so either approach, yours, or the GLOBIGNORe one, can be one-liners and can also be shell scripts.
[16:09] <new_ubuntuer> https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhl3R79y46CZ  weird :(
[16:10] <pavlos> element: can you add [Install] WantedBy=default.target, disable, re-enable service and test ...
[16:11] <element> pavlos, does it matter where I put that in the file?
[16:11] <new_ubuntuer> tomreyn - https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhl3R79y46CZ  weird :(
 new_ubuntuer: this should have been: echo "verify it's gone"
[16:12] <tomreyn> or just remove the '
[16:13] <element> pavlos, ahh I see the symlink when I enabled it this time. thanks, rebooting now.
[16:13] <arunkumar413> I want to develop my own application launcher. How do i approach this
[16:14] <ducasse> arunkumar413: ask in ##programming
[16:14] <new_ubuntuer> oh I see
[16:14] <element> pavlos, worked like a champ! thank you!
[16:14] <pavlos> element: yw
[16:15] <arunkumar413> I want to develop it for Ubuntu.  I wan to understand UI libraries of Ubuntu
[16:15] <ducasse> arunkumar413: still not an #ubuntu support topic, this channel is not for programming support
[16:17] <new_ubuntuer> thank you tomreyn , hggdh , nacc
[16:17] <new_ubuntuer> :)
[16:18] <ash_workz> I get a notice when I visit gnome extension pages: "Unable to locate GNOME Shell settings or version. Make sure it is installed and running."
[16:18] <ash_workz> when I look it up, various things point to "sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell" ... but that's installed already.
[16:19] <new_ubuntuer> if I remove  < read -p 'Press enter to continue or ctrl-c to cancel' LINE > from < export GLOBIGNORE=config.txt; echo remove all temp files; ls config.*; read -p 'Press enter to continue or ctrl-c to cancel' LINE; rm config.*  > files will be removed without pressing enter
[16:20] <ash_workz> nvm; I get it
[16:22] <lfowlr> how do I edit the image ? I want to blur something
[16:23] <genii> GIMP ?
[16:25] <oerheks_> tons of image editors, pick one
[16:29] <TheWild> hello
[16:30] <TheWild> what's the f.ing deal that I can't install teamviewer without obstacles? It's stuck at windowless "Waiting to install".
[16:31] <oerheks_> f.ing not found, do you mean applepie?
[16:33] <TheWild> sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_12.0.85001_i386.deb
[16:33] <TheWild> dpkg: error processing archive teamviewer_12.0.85001_i386.deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[16:34] <TheWild> but TeamViewer site claims it's multiarch
[16:34] <llutz> TheWild: "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" does list i386?
[16:34] <TheWild> probably not
[16:35] <TheWild> nope. empty
[16:35] <oerheks_> https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution/ta-p/4351#toc-hId-764334519
[16:35] <leftyfb> TheWild: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:35] <oerheks_> carefull, teamviewer runs through their servers..
[16:36] <xYuusha> I'm having a Weird issue with 17.04 that didn't happened with 16.04. The wired network disconnects periodically without any pattern and neither journalctl nor dmesg have any log at the time the network disconects.
[16:36] <TheWild> 16.04
[16:37] <TheWild> apt isn't helpful. apt thinks the argument is name of package in Ubuntu's repository, not a file.
[16:38] <TheWild> ok, "dpkg --add-architecture i386" seems to do something
[16:38] <llutz> TheWild: apt is not meant  to deal with package-files
[16:38] <ducasse> apt needs an absolute path to install .debs
[16:39] <TheWild> what to do with dangling "Waiting to install" in task bar?
[16:40] <oerheks_> sad they give such instructions, maybe linuxbabe got it right https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-teamviewer-12-ubuntu-16-04-ubuntu-16-10
[16:41] <ducasse> you probably just need to enable i386 - dpkg --add-architecture i386
[16:43] <oerheks_> ducasse, i think not, if this gives i386 > dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[16:43] <ducasse> yes, but it didn't
[16:46] <gde33> I'm trying to make a live ubuntu usb from lubuntu but the usb-creator-gtk just says "failed" rightaway
[16:46] <gde33> *I'm trying to make a live ubuntu usb from a lubuntu live usb but the usb-creator-gtk just says "failed" rightaway
[16:46] <TheWild> "dpkg -i ..." installs the package, but it has missing dependencies. "apt-get install -f" attempts to remove teamviewer.
[16:47] <gde33> anything else I can try?
[16:47] <oerheks_> TheWild, did you fully upgrade before installing ? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:48] <TheWild> nah, this is live system booted from USB stick. I have a broken computer and it won't run OS from HDD.
[16:49] <oerheks_> oh, not sure teamviewer will work on a live iso
[16:49] <ducasse> TheWild: 'sudo apt install ./teamviewer_etc.deb'
[16:50] <TheWild> oh wait, I did something and something more is happening. It now downloads dependencies!
[16:51] <ubp> anyone feel like helping with something that might be a hardware problem?
[16:53] <oerheks_> ubp, try ##hardware ?
[16:53] <TheWild> yay, works!
[16:54] <ubp> oerherks_, gotcha, might end up coming back if they tell me its software, we'll see
[16:54] <TheWild> thanks for helping me a bit.
[16:54] <ubp> welp, spelled that wrong
[16:54] <TheWild> Linux is inconvenient as hell at times.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> if linux devs had as much time and money for developing software and drivers for linux OSs as MS does for it's mostly singular OS then linux would be more superior to Windows than it is now :-)
[16:57] <tgm4883> TheWild: don't use 'dpkg -i' to install deb package, use apt
[17:00] <nicomachus> tgm4883: why
[17:00] <tgm4883> nicomachus: why what?
[17:01] <nicomachus> why not use dpkg -i
[17:01] <tgm4883> nicomachus: because it doesn't do dependency resolution
[17:01] <nicomachus> I don't even know how to install a deb from apt
[17:01] <tgm4883> nicomachus: 'apt install ./debname.deb'
[17:01] <nicomachus> til
[17:08] <alsetema> Hello people, I would like to share my wireless internet connection through another wireless adapter, I'm running Lubuntu 17.10 kernel 4.13, and have tried setting up an access point through the network manager menu, yet when the access point is conneccted on one of the adapters, the one I get the internet connection from disconnects from the network, why could this be?
[17:14] <Cat_BPRM> Hello, I pressed a key and now all my characters have switched to the alternate ones, the ones with lines through them and stuff, how do I change this back?
[17:15] <alsetema> You could try changing your keyboard layout back
[17:21] <ducasse> !17.10 | alsetema
[17:22] <alsetema> Hm, I dont think this has much to do with the version of ubuntu i'm running, does it, ducasse
[17:22] <alsetema> ?
[17:24] <nicomachus> alsetema: doesn't matter. Support for 17.10 is in #ubuntu+1 for the time being
[17:24] <oerheks_> alsetema, 4 more days ..
[17:24] <alsetema> Okidoki, I'll see what I can do there, thankyu
[17:24] <lfowlr> there is a .png image- i want the output to be .png after erasing some picture's parts.
[17:25] <lfowlr> so how do I do it? can i use libredraw for that? the output should be viewable for windows users too
[17:25] <lfowlr> oerheks_: do you know
[17:25] <lfowlr> it's urgent
[17:27] <Anticom> Hi all. Is there an option to scale individual screen UI's?
[17:28] <oerheks_> lfowlr, i feel like not helping you, as you call me names before, good luck
[17:33] <ducasse> lfowlr: i don't really understand the problem - open in an image editor, edit, save, done.
[17:33] <alsetema> Awh nobody seems to be active in #ubuntu+1
[17:34] <nicomachus> lfowlr: GIMP
[17:36] <kostkon> lfowlr, is it something you want to automate?
[17:38] <wildc4rd> good evening, how can I trigger the update to 17.4 from my 16.04LTS machine?
[17:41] <pavlos> lfowlr: there is mtpaint (sudo apt install mtpaint, looks like MS Paint
[17:46] <bcowan> wildc4rd, its a pita you have to goto 16.10 then 17.04
[17:51] <njathan> Hi!
[17:59] <ArMedic> What I am looking for is a way to monitor each device connected to my Wi-Fi network and its real time usage.  Whats the best tool to use for this?
[18:02] <nicomachus> wireshark
[18:03] <ArMedic> nicomachus: Okay thank you.
[18:04] <ntd> kismet
[18:04] <wildc4rd> bcowan, OK, best way to trigger that update? I'm sure it used to show in the settings/details box
[18:04] <ntd> the upcoming version (git master) will be insane
[18:06] <bcowan> wildc4rd, you can goto software and updates and in the updates tab change notify me of new versions to for any new version...thats if it will still let you goto 16.10 idk?
[18:06] <ducasse> wildc4rd: make sure 'upgrade to any new version' is selected in the settings
[18:07] <wildc4rd> kk, thanks both
[18:08] <ducasse> wildc4rd: if you're not prompted then, run do-release-upgrade
[18:10] <wildc4rd> sorted, cheers
[18:15] <tsumego> tried enabling SELinux on ubuntu and rebooted as instructed, but the reboot froze for 2+ hours. rebooted into recovery mode and uninstalled selinux, still can't boot. the system hangs at the Ubuntu loading screen with the 5 dots changing between white/red. searched online and found advice to not install selinux via package manager, but don't see an
[18:15] <tsumego> y advice on how to recover after it's been done. appreciate any suggestions.
[18:16] <skinux> What do I do when two app icons are over-lapping on panel?
[18:18] <Goop> How can I download something from Google drive on the Ubuntu commandline?
[18:18] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Were me. I would try and boot explicitly from grub. What is the firmware and partitioning on the drive ?
[18:19] <amirite> can someone give me a straightforward way to know which services are enabled on startup without root
[18:19] <amirite> i cannot install initctl
[18:19] <amirite> nor can i install anything
[18:21] <seatbelt_> part #ubuntu
[18:22] <ioria> amirite, initctl it's not a pkg, but a command (in upstart) , i guess you're an a systemd system
[18:22] <tsumego> Bashing-om: could you clarify what you mean by booting explicitly from grub?  grub offers: 1) Ubuntu, 2) Ubuntu advanced options, 3) I don't remember, it's not an OS, sounded recovery related. 4) Windows.  Option 1 stalls for 2+ hours. Option 2 lets me boot into Ubuntu recovery mode which is where I uninstalled selinux, but the system still won't b
[18:22] <tsumego> oot.
[18:23] <oerheks_> amirite, basicly: none
[18:25] <Bashing-om> tsumego: If one knows the partitoning, then can tell grub what to tell the kernel in order to boot . However, I have no experience with EFI firmware nor GPT partitioning to advise if that is the conditions .
[18:27] <jhutchins> amirite: You can not do system-wide software installs except with root permissions (sudo).
[18:27] <jhutchins> amirite: Also, you might actually be looking for systemctl, since you're probably running systemd and not init.
[18:29] <ioria> tsumego, never used selinux but by simulation i see that it installs grub-pc , so if you are using efi , we might have a problem
[18:29] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Let;s see what we are dealing with . At the frub boot menu press 'c' for a command line . what shows ' ls -ah ' , See what we can do to boot the system explicitly .
[18:31] <ioria> tsumego, and  it removes grub-efi-amd64 and apparmor
[18:32] <tsumego> Bashing-om: to do that I'll have to reboot and exit irc. I'll see if I can find an Android IRC client to rejoin while at command line
[18:35] <tsumego> From grub command line, ls -ah returns 4 options
[18:36] <tsumego> (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[18:39] <tsumego> From grub, booting directly into ubuntu stalls. If I boot into recovery mode, then try resuming a regular boot it loads fine.
[18:40] <tsumego> But, rebooting again the default grub ubuntu boot fails
 tried enabling SELinux on ubuntu  ... did you see the wiki ?
[18:41] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Good deal .. MBR partitioning . now we need to find grub's config files , At the grub prompt what returns ' search -f /sbin/init ' ? wuth the end goal to see what we need to re-install .
[18:41] <oerheks_> !selinux
[18:42] <oerheks_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[18:43] <tsumego> search -f /sbin/init returns: 'hd0,msdos5'
[18:44] <tsumego> I see selinux isn't officially supported now. Just trying to recover the ability to boot normally after uninstalling it
[18:46] <EriC^^> tsumego: maybe boot a live usb, chroot and see which packages it removed in /var/log/apt/history.log and reinstall them and fix grub
[18:47] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Any idea of what is on the 1st and 2nd partitions .. looks like /root os on the 5th partiton . We can try and see what results booting the 5th partition, though .
[18:48] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Be aware EriC^^ is the guru of booting :)
[18:49] <Dirkos> Im using Ubuntu 16.04. Having issue with the wifi adapter on my device. After it runs a lot of traffic it now returns me "[Errno 111] (110, 'timed out')" when i try to connect to a certain host. Why trying it from my laptop on the same wifi connection it is still working fine
[18:49] <tsumego> Bashing-om: if I recall correctly windows 10 made a couple extra partitions for system,swap. Ubuntu and win10 are the only systems on the disk. Mainly use ubuntu, but have windows for gaming
[18:49] <Dirkos> anyone an idea where to start looking? Since iptables is disabled for example
[18:50] <magic_1> hi all
[18:50] <magic_1> hope everyone is having a great friday
[18:50] <magic_1> anyone know of some awesome games to play on ubuntu to pass the time
[18:50] <tgm4883> magic_1: you're looking for #ubuntu-discuss  as this is the support channel
[18:51] <magic_1> no problem thanks
[18:51] <oerheks_> magic_1, see steam, tons of free games
[18:51] <magic_1> oerheks_, got steam going
[18:51] <magic_1> all the free games aren't worth it lol
[18:52] <tgm4883> !ot
[18:52] <Bashing-om> tsumego: K; let;s try and boot up tubuntu . run from grub's prompt ' linux (hd0,msdos5)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ; initrd (hd0,msdos5)/initrd.img ; boot ' . See what the system screams and hollers about and take action .
[18:53] <Bashing-om> tsumego: typo !
[18:54] <Bashing-om> tsumego: make that linux (hd0,msdos5)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5 ro
[18:58] <tsumego> EricC^^: here's the tail of /var/log/apt/history.log https://pastebin.com/pcVFi1x2
[18:58] <tsumego> Bashing-om: okay rebooting to try that
[19:01] <Dirkos> due an odd reason i now cannot access it from my server locally anymore :s
[19:01] <Dirkos> root@kodi:~# telnet pro.sslusenet.com 56
[19:01] <Dirkos> root@kodi:~# telnet pro.sslusenet.com 563 *
[19:01] <tsumego> Bashing-om: appears nothing happens. It's sitting at a blank line. No errors, no more grub prompt
[19:01] <Dirkos> what could block such a thing
[19:02] <oerheks_> Dirkos, sure you get an error
[19:02] <Dirkos> oerheks_: where would i start looking? Since when i reconnect to the wifi signal it starts working again
[19:03] <oerheks_> Dirkos, how about the line that returns after your telnet command?
[19:04] <tsumego> Bashing-om: wait, I rebooted and tried that command again and it booted perfectly!
[19:04] <Dirkos> oerheks_: there is none, it just keeps hanging there
[19:04] <tsumego> Bashing-om: is there a say I can set that as the default ubuntu boot method?
[19:05] <Dirkos> "Trying 85.12.14.22..."
[19:05] <oerheks_> Dirkos, check out syslog perhaps?
[19:06] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Yeah - once booted run ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' . reboot to see the effect . Is Windows also picked up ?
[19:07] <Dirkos> oerheks_: well there is nothing really that pinpoints me to an error over there
[19:11] <tsumego> Bashing-om: hit 'e' to edit the ubuntu boot commands in grub and I see it still says: ' linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-37-generic root=UUID=(some hash here) ro nomodeset quiet splash security=selinux selinux=1 $vt_handoff_ ' (followed by initrd line with no mention of selinux). I wonder if just deleting mentions of selinux on this line would fix it
[19:13] <Bashing-om> tsumego: Ouch ! No .. we need to purge selinux from the system somehow . I will have to do homework to learn how .
[19:13] <tsumego> Based on the pastebin above probably also a good idea to reinstall apparmor. Rebooting now to try the grub recheck now
[19:14] <ducasse> tsumego: iirc there is a kernel command to disable selinux enforcement
[19:15] <Bashing-om> tsumego: also on the back burner - nomodeset -, can we not come up with a graphic's driver ?
[19:17] <tsumego> The grub-install --recheck /dev/sda says installing for i386-pc platform. Installation finished, no errors reported
[19:19] <Bashing-om> tsumego: As I do not know selinux. at this point all I can suggest is to reboot and see what happens . See what we may need to do about selinux ??
[19:19] <tsumego> Rebooting still stuck at the same loading window. I have a hunch the selinux line in the grub config is the issue. Going to try deleting mentions of it
[19:21] <Bashing-om> tsumego: will not hurt to remove in grub.cfg but will be overwritten next update .
[19:25] <amirite> what is the best one-liner to check if an apt package is installed (for use in scripting)
[19:26] <ioria> amirite, 1) not safe to be root on irc, 2) why don't you state your real issue ?
[19:27] <ducasse> amirite: parse the output from apt-cache show <package> or dpkg -l <package>, maybe
[19:27] <tgm4883> yea dpkg -l package is probably best
[19:27] <amirite> ioria i am running irssi from a docker container
[19:27] <amirite> it's safe
[19:27] <tsumego> @bashing-om: got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you! <3
[19:28] <kiroma> Hey, I need to do some debugging, how can I move pulseaudio to a console?
[19:28] <tsumego> bashing-om: removing 'security=selinux selinux=1' from grub.cfg and updating grub did the trick! Thanks so much for your help
[19:28] <Bashing-om> tsumego: :) .. is there an urge to deal with - nomodeset - ?
[19:30] <tsumego> bashing-om: yeah, I know I'll need to configure the gpu eventually. it's a relatively new system with a gpu for deep neural networks with reinforcement learning via tensorflow. haven't fully configured the gpu yet
[19:30] <tsumego> bashing-om: seems okay for the time being, but I know it'll need to be configured
[19:30] <kiroma> Or how can I prevent pulseaudio from restarting after killing it?
[19:30] <Bashing-om> tsumego: grub never ceases to amaze me . // cross bridges as we come to them for graphics .
[19:31] <tsumego> bashing-om: yes. thanks again for your help!
[19:31] <yame> hello all
[19:36] <oerheks_> kiroma, i would use pasuspender, part of pulseaudio-utils, or In /etc/pulse/client.conf, you can uncomment the line autospawn=yes and replace the yes with a "no"
[19:45] <Dirkos> oerheks_: i restarted all services and started monitoring. It stopped working again a few min ago. Here is the syslog https://gist.github.com/pimjansen/9b531da2222214877f45e7cdcf40586e
[19:45] <Dirkos> could this mean anything?
[19:45] <Dirkos> Oct 13 21:20:43 kodi kernel: [  642.561945] perf: interrupt took too long (2511 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 79500
[19:47] <oerheks_> Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; ??
[19:48] <oerheks_> no clue, actually
[19:49] <Dirkos> Yeah no idea what it is though
[19:50] <ducasse> it's just a gtk warning, most likely irrelevant.
[19:55] <ezio> scp "$0" "$remote:~/" ssh $remote "~/${0:2} -L" ... i want to execute a script with the same name on a remote computer. but either -L becomes an option to ssh or ~ becomes the local user's home page.  anyone know how i should write this?
[20:03] <nacc> ezio: you probably want to spawn a shell (bash -l)
[20:03] <nacc> ezio: and run commands in that shell
[20:03] <ezio> nacc, i'm using a script that copies itself to a remote computer
[20:03] <nacc> that seems like a somewhat dangerous script, but whatever
[20:04] <nacc> (dangerous as in convoluted)
[20:04] <nacc> ezio: but i'm not sure why that's relevant to what i said?
[20:04] <ezio> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/79f6cc3ba570a5417f3010d8de4ba4b1/raw/5897ca090b3863d9f665dd3137d97e51ddc989e0/gistfile1.txt
[20:04] <nacc> ezio: you want to use `ssh $remote bash -l -c ...`
[20:05] <pumpkinz> My /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq is lower than that of the frequency in the bios any ideas?
[20:05] <nacc> ezio: also, ~ without specifying a user will of course use your local user's name
[20:06] <ezio> nacc,         ssh $remote bash -l -c "~/${0:2} -L"
[20:06] <nacc> ezio: do you have an ssh config that specifies a different user should be used?
[20:06] <ezio> nacc, it'll use what's in the .ssh/config for now but i will change that
[20:06] <nacc> ezio: you are basically making it hard to help by not mentioning details like that
[20:06] <nacc> ezio: and relying on that means, e.g., i could not test the same here to help you
[20:07] <ezio> well it's running up to that point so either i have a user with the same name or it's in the config ... i don't see how that is pertinent.
[20:09] <ezio> nacc, ssh $remote bash -l -c "~/${0:2} -L" doesn't work either
[20:09] <ezio> same error
[20:09] <ezio> + ssh auth bash -l -c '~/server-install.bash -L'
[20:09] <ezio> : invalid option
[20:11] <nacc> ezio: does `ssh auth bash -l -c '~/server-install.bash'` work?
[20:14] <ezio> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/e7e02b691d9e75ff9c8478e5de9fdbb2/raw/ed2cf26546c87ac96525d9902b355e95e55b39cd/gistfile1.txt
[20:15] <nacc> ezio: stop running it in your script.
[20:15] <nacc> ezio: run the commands on the terminal
[20:16] <nacc> ezio: then fix your script.
[20:17] <ezio> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/d7e51a48310dd9c74d99a7e9d6160b9b/raw/35097a1c250c18819dedd42ed2da3c7634603fa4/gistfile1.txt
[20:17] <nacc> ezio: why are you doing ${0:2} ? are you relying on invokingn your script as ./ ?
[20:17] <ezio> sorry
[20:17] <nacc> ezio: also, just run the script with an absolute path, see if that works
[20:18] <ezio> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/0574412a4d84186a437abf108fd3a5cf/raw/e23a8be090de6b7bd5c74bf1c0bc135cead253bb/gistfile1.txt
[20:18] <ezio> k
[20:18] <ezio> same thing
[20:19] <ezio> invalid option
[20:19] <nacc> ezio: well, you probably don't want to use `` at the prompt
[20:19] <nacc> i feel like you understand what i meant
[20:19] <ezio> i tried without that
[20:19] <nacc> ezio: what did it output?
[20:19] <ezio> yeah sorry i copied what you put and ran it without stripping those
[20:19] <ezio> same thing
[20:20] <nacc> ezio: as which? please just pastebin it
[20:20] <ezio> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/cc88f7f37fe1168f40db06b15214b98b/raw/060b653cbf621cb3db3c243989ba770fd8867a70/gistfile1.txt
[20:22] <nacc> ezio: ok, wherever the script is what does `/path/to/server-install.bash -L` report?
[20:23] <ezio> yeah.  It's there the problem is.
[20:24] <ezio> so that works on the command line
[20:24] <ezio> but not in the script
[20:25] <Cooler> what a good torrent client for 16.04 lts?
[20:25] <nacc> ezio: sorry? so when you run it locally, does the script also say "ivnalid option"?
[20:25] <ezio> err okay now it is
[20:25] <ezio> thanks
[20:26] <ezio> wait
[20:26] <ezio> no
[20:26] <ezio> it fails when I change to ${0:2}
[20:27] <tgm4883> Cooler: transmission
[20:27] <ezio> which is because it's not ... processing that locally
[20:27] <Cooler> tgm4883, how do i add a magnet link to transmission?
[20:28] <Cooler> when i click it in chrome, it doesn't open in transmission
[20:28] <tgm4883> Cooler: no idea. You didn't ask about that now did you...
[20:28] <nacc> ezio: you should be using a local variable
[20:31] <ezio> this works: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/bluebaroncanada/3fbb014305a90a2adc5f1bd369097128/raw/bd13c01f1f86be9921f384a8d1f540a745b3fd91/gistfile1.txt
[20:31] <nacc> ezio: i'm not sure you're using your variables correctly
[20:32] <ezio> prolly right
[20:32] <nacc> ezio: htat is runningn 'sh auth bash -l -c '~/
[20:32] <nacc> well, i guess i'm not sure what you are calling it as
[20:32] <nacc> sorry, i was wrong just now
[20:32] <ezio> + ssh auth bash -l -c ''\''~/server-install.bash'\'''
[20:32] <nacc> ezio: it feelsl ike you're trying to be *way* too clever
[20:32] <nacc> ezio: don't do that in scripts :)
[20:33] <nacc> (IMO)
[20:33] <ezio> i have my entry point now.  that's all i really needed.  :p
[20:34] <ezio> err .. cept for ... why it's saying invalid option on -L on the remote system only
[20:35] <ezio> it's not ... even
[20:37] <ezio> i don't think that's getopts that's showing that error
[20:38] <nacc> ezio: easy way to check, ssh to the remote system and run what you thinnk the command is
[20:41] <ezio> i am
[20:41] <ezio> it's running locally in gitbash
[20:41] <ezio> but not in ubuntu bash
[20:42] <ezio> i don't even think it's running the first line
[20:42] <ezio> line endings apparently .. maybe
[20:43] <nacc> I don't know what gitbash is
[20:44] <akik> git bash is probably git for windows
[20:44] <nacc> ezio: also, your loop is totally wronng
[20:44] <nacc> you don't want to set those default values in the loop each time
[20:45] <nacc> ezio: and you're potentially invoking the remote command each argument you get, which makes no sense
[20:45] <nacc> ezio: againn, overcomplicating something, imo :)
[20:45] <nacc> akik: ah interesting
[20:45] <nacc> ezio: if akik is right, get it working in ubuntu first ... and i wish you had said that, because this is not a winndows support channnel
[20:46] <ezio> yup that was the issue
[20:46] <ezio> bam
[20:46] <ezio> thanks!
[20:47] <oerheks_> ubuwin?
[20:49] <akik> it's separate from wsl
[20:52] <evilclown> should I upgrade to 17.10 when it comes out or wait?
[20:52] <evilclown> I do a lot of stuff in amd and right now is stable the amd gpu
[20:52] <Dreaman> some problems flick flack
[20:52] <Dreaman> video
[20:53] <Dreaman> browsers
[20:53] <nacc> evilclown: you are on 17.04?
[20:54] <oerheks_> you would upgrade in 3 months ..
[20:55] <evilclown> kk brb
[21:26] <lenswipe> hey guys
[21:30] <lenswipe> Hey guys
[21:31] <lenswipe> I'm looking for the equivalent of apt-get install -y for add-apt-repository
[21:31] <lenswipe> i,e: add the repo without a prompt
[21:31] <tgm4883> lenswipe: you mean like, 'add-apt-repository -y' ?
[21:31] <lfowlr> HEY GUYS
[21:31] <lenswipe> tgm4883, TIL you could do that
[21:32] <tgm4883> lenswipe: you can use -h with many commands to show you the options
[21:32] <lenswipe> thx
[21:32] <lfowlr> I want to delete parts of hte image in libredraw ? just like with ms paint, the difference is that on linux it seems hard?
[21:32] <lenswipe> tgm4883, this is on a travis box though - so I don't have direct command line access..hence why I need to use -y
[21:33] <tgm4883> lenswipe: IDK what a travis box is, but that reason you just gave is a good reason to have a linux box you can test on
[21:33] <tgm4883> eg. your local box
[21:33] <oerheks_> no commandline, so you use the sources gui ?
[21:33] <lenswipe> tgm4883, http://travis-ci.org and I don't currently have a linux box to hand
[21:33] <tgm4883> lfowlr: when you say things like "just like with ms paint", nobody knows what that means because we don't use ms paint
[21:33] <lenswipe> tgm4883, and before you ask why I'm adding repositories to travis, it's because ffmpeg isn't in the ubuntu repos :(
[21:34] <kostkon> !info ffmpeg
[21:34] <lenswipe> oerheks_, no. i use the travis config file
[21:34] <lenswipe> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/getting-started/
[21:34] <tgm4883> lenswipe: it's not? That's news to me
[21:34] <tgm4883> i mean sure, it was libav for awhile
[21:34] <oerheks_> make sure that ppa is suitable for trusty...
[21:35] <lenswipe> tgm4883, doesn't seem like it...https://i.imgur.com/p7cRvMD.png
[21:35] <lenswipe> maybe it's available as libav then
[21:35] <lenswipe> https://travis-ci.org/robertmain/jukebox/jobs/287706342
[21:35] <oerheks_> jups, libav
[21:35]  * lenswipe looks at oerheks_'s tab key
[21:35] <lenswipe> :)
[21:36] <lenswipe> tgm4883, so to be clear, is it still libav, or is it back to being called ffmpeg again?
[21:36] <kostkon> lenswipe, ffmpeg
[21:36] <tgm4883> ffmpeg is what it is now
[21:36] <lenswipe> gotcha
[21:36] <kostkon> lenswipe, it came back
[21:36] <lenswipe> updating my README
[21:36] <lenswipe> :)
[21:36] <tgm4883> libav has some differences IIRC
[21:37] <lenswipe> such as?
[21:37] <oerheks_> ffmpeg came back with 14.10 IIRC
[21:37] <lenswipe> presumably it still makes the ffmpeg and ffmpeg binaries available?
[21:37] <tgm4883> lenswipe: IDK, it's been a long time since I cared to look
[21:38] <lenswipe> kk, np thanks anyway :)
[21:38] <oerheks_> this ppa got ffmpeg, https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media , recently updated
[21:39] <lenswipe> oerheks_, yep - that's what i was trying to add - hence why i came in asking about sudo apt-add-repository -y :)
[21:41] <new_ubuntuer> hi I have this whiptail script with helps me make menu to use in scripts but problem is I can't figure out how to make it like variable=selected_menu_item https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhl3RAvxDDCZ
[21:43] <new_ubuntuer> please let me know if you don't understand my problem I will try to explain in different way :)
[21:44] <tfitts> I'm wondering if there is a way to reliable detect a usb device when the serial number in lsusb -v is not unique and I want to have perhaps a dozen or more of the same device connected.
[21:46] <Cooler> how do i search for a installed package?
[21:46] <Cooler> if you don't know the correct name
[21:46] <tomreyn> new_ubuntuer: if you're trying to work with the output generated by whiptail (chosen tag) you need to use stderr output, not stdout
[21:47] <tomreyn> so redirect whiptails error output to stdout, like so: whiptail --title "..." --menu "..." 2>&1
[21:48] <lfowlr> tgm4883: how do I cut parts of image in gimp?
[21:49] <lfowlr> crop ? but that seems different. maybe sth else?
[21:49] <tgm4883> lfowlr: you're just trying to delete parts of an image?
[21:49] <new_ubuntuer> is that all I have to do ?
[21:49] <new_ubuntuer> tomreyn
[21:49] <lfowlr> tgm4883: yes in gimp
[21:50] <tomreyn> new_ubuntuer: depends on what you are trying to do
[21:50] <tomreyn> new_ubuntuer: if you want to assign the tag to a variable you need to do so, too, of course
[21:50] <tgm4883> lfowlr: Depending on exactly what you want to do, you can use the eraser tool, you can use the selection tool (to select what you want to delete then press the delete key)
[21:50] <tomreyn> so: myvariable="$(whitptail ... 2>&1)"
[21:51] <new_ubuntuer> let me try :)
[21:53] <lfowlr> where is the selection tool?
[21:53] <tgm4883> lfowlr: it's the little box with the dotted line, or the oval with the dotted line, or the lasso
[21:54] <tgm4883> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xj9TFsJZ/image.png
[21:55] <kostkon> lfowlr, have you enabled the single window mode in gimp? It makes it easier and more sane to use.
[21:55] <tomreyn> gtg
[21:55] <lfowlr> take a pic of it and show me.
[21:56] <tgm4883> lfowlr: I did
[21:56]  * tgm4883 shakes head
[21:56] <Cooler> helppppp
[21:56] <Cooler> Connection failed (unable to get local issuer certificate.? (20))
[21:56] <Cooler> i get that in hexchat
[21:56] <Cooler> what does the error mean?
[21:57] <new_ubuntuer> I missed something :( tomreyn - https://thepasteb.in/p/GZhW5RrYO19TV
[21:57] <Cooler> can i not get the CA certificates installed in the system?
[21:57] <Cooler> it*
[21:58] <kostkon> Cooler, try ticking the allow invalid ssl certs option otherwise disable ssl altogether for that server
[21:58] <lfowlr> cool, and when i delte it, i see a bunch of chess squares, can i make it black
[21:58] <lfowlr> or white
[21:59] <tgm4883> lfowlr: yea, the chess squares mean it's clear
[21:59] <Cooler> kostkon: i don't wanna disable ssl
[21:59] <kostkon> lfowlr, use eg the pencil or some other tool to paint over it
[21:59] <tgm4883> you can fill it in with whatever you want
[21:59] <tgm4883> just use the fill tool
[22:00] <Cooler> kostkon: it doesn't fix the problem
[22:00] <kostkon> Cooler, maybe a problem with the server?
[22:00] <Cooler> freenode?
[22:00] <Cooler> we are talking on it right now
[22:00] <kostkon> Cooler, right
[22:00] <kostkon> Cooler, ignore it for now? I don't know
[22:01] <Cooler> its not a temporary problem
[22:01] <lfowlr> thanks if i were to read the docs it would takes ages to learn it
[22:01] <kostkon> Cooler, try connecting to a different freenode mirror server
[22:01] <tgm4883> lfowlr: It's been a long time since I've used paint, but I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same way
[22:04] <kostkon> Cooler, I guess you could also ask in #freenode, probably a more appropriate place for that kind of question
[22:05] <new_ubuntuer> ok guys see you soon
[22:06] <new_ubuntuer> bye
[22:06] <vook> Any ideas why setting a sysctl value in /etc/sysctl.conf, such as "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 1", wouldn't process on boot (but after boot, sysctl -p will process the value)?
[22:06] <cooler_> how do i update the CA certs?
[22:07] <cooler_> do i even have any in the first place?
[22:07] <Kanov> when I am zoomed in on a certain image and if I go to the next image, the zoom is gone. is there some image viewer which could allow me to remain zoomed in by the same amount and on the same area if I go the next image (which is similar in length/width/height to the previous one)?
[22:13] <pavlos> vook: sysctl -p reloads the configuration so no boot required
[22:13] <vook> right, but on reboot, the values don't load
[22:14] <vook> on reboot,  /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding has a value of 0
[22:14] <lfowlr> tgm4883: let's meet later, i also have some cropping doubts. as it's very hard to understand. very very hard.
[22:14]  * lfowlr goes to sleep tonight tgm4883
[22:15] <nacc> vook: i believe that's handled by procps, is that innstalled?
[22:15] <vook> installed and enabled
[22:16] <macksfield> how do I switch my builtin audio digital output from (S/PDIF) jack to the normal audio jack? Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize that the speakers are plugged in to the audio jack. Headphones work fine, but audio is not routed to proper output jack for speakers
[22:16] <Kanov> anything?
[22:16] <Kanov> when I am zoomed in on a certain image and if I go to the next image, the zoom is gone. is there some image viewer which could allow me to remain zoomed in by the same amount and on the same area if I go the next image (which is similar in length/width/height to the previous one)?
[22:16] <lfowlr> tgm4883: cool bye
[22:16] <nacc> vook: what about `systemctl status systemd-sysctl`
[22:16] <nacc> !patience | Kanov
[22:17] <vook> nacc: hmm, I see "start condition failed".
[22:17] <vook> probably some issue with it being a container
[22:17] <nacc> vook: well yeah
[22:17] <nacc> vook: contaienrs can't chagne the kernel config
[22:17] <nacc> vook: that would be the host's config
[22:17] <vook> but they can.  right after boot, I can run echo -n "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding and the change processes.
[22:18] <nacc> vook: unless you make them privileged. I do't believe you mentioned you were asking about a conntainer until just now, which is a rather large note.
[22:18] <vook> I suppose I can just incorporate it into a script
[22:18] <vook> its priv and unconfined
[22:18] <nacc> vook: then you might as well do that on the host
[22:18] <nacc> vook: which is what you're changing. and maybe read up on why what you're doing is probably wrong.
[22:19] <vook> I guess I could run these as Xen domU's, probably safer
[22:19] <nacc> vook: your one priviledge container is now changing how the host works and how every other container works
[22:22] <vook> nacc: OT for this channel, I know, but the behavior is weird: lxd_node # cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding.... 0
[22:22] <vook> lxd_container # cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding.... 1
[22:22] <nacc> what is "lxd_node"?
[22:22] <nacc> the host?
[22:22] <vook> that's the HV
[22:22] <nacc> vook: possibly some parts of /proc are namespaced?
[22:23] <nacc> vook: so while/proc/sys/net itself is not writable (which is what hte systemd service is checking), network namespaces allow the container to only affect itself
[22:23] <vook> ok, thanks.  Yeah, I'd forgotten that I enabled priv=true and unconfined while testing.  I'll have to rethink this.
[22:24] <nacc> vook: yeah, I think a VM is probably the simplest solution
[22:24] <p00t> hello
[22:24] <kostkon> p00t, hi
[22:24] <p00t> Could somebody assist me with my issue?
[22:25] <p00t> I have installed on my lenovo yoga 910 ubuntu 17.04 when i using my full resolution my screen is flicking all the time
[22:25] <p00t> flickering*
[22:28] <p00t> anybody ?
[22:29] <rdh> lol anyone know why hexchat is not logging into freenode fast enuh, and ubuntu is sending me to ubuntu-unregistered?
[22:29] <rdh> ive never seen this before
[22:29] <p00t> cause you have to register
[22:30] <p00t> and confirm via email
[22:30] <rdh> yes obviously
[22:30] <rdh> if have hexchat configured to run register commands
[22:30] <rdh> other channels are fine
[22:30] <p00t> idk i had same prob few minutes ago
[22:31] <p00t> i just go through email instructions and im here now
[22:31] <p00t> maybe you could help me with my flickering screen?!
[22:31] <p00t> gettin crazy all day with it
[22:35] <rdh> p00t, have you ruled out hardware failure?
[22:35] <p00t> oh i have no idea how to
[22:35] <p00t> im new user
[22:35] <p00t> so i know the basics
[22:36] <rdh> p00t, https://askubuntu.com/questions/890940/yoga-910-the-screen-flickers-in-ubuntu-16-04
[22:37] <p00t> i tried this one
[22:37] <p00t> hes resolution is 1920x1080
[22:37] <p00t> mine is double
[22:38] <rdh> p00t, so you didnt try it?
[22:38] <p00t> no i tried but im getting warning error when i modify that file
[22:38] <rdh> p00t, ... permission issue?
[22:39] <p00t> no let me paste what i get
[22:39] <oerheks_> Intel HD Graphics 620, use option "TearFree" "true" and option "DRI" "3" https://askubuntu.com/questions/752743/ubuntu-16-04-skylake-6th-generation-screen-flickering
[22:40] <p00t> oh now i get permission denied
[22:40] <p00t> and redit wont work anymore
[22:40] <rdh> redit?
[22:41] <niceprogrammer> im having memory issues and I'm not sure why....seems like a reboot fixes it for a least a few days but not sure why its needed in linux
[22:41] <mahakal> guys,how to add a c daemon as cron job
[22:41] <niceprogrammer> even after closes programs and restarting that could be causing an increase in memory then issues seems to persist untila a reboot
[22:42] <mahakal> its a networking application
[22:42] <rdh> niceprogrammer, what do you mean? are you running out of usable memory?
[22:43] <niceprogrammer> i mean things start failing and I reboot and programs work fine for a few days
[22:43] <niceprogrammer> pc runs slow
[22:44] <niceprogrammer> i guess its usuable memory..
[22:44] <niceprogrammer> its not the same things that start going slow or failing its been different programs
[22:45] <mahakal> guys,how to add a c daemon as cron job
[22:46] <pavlos> mahakal: if you run it daily, add it to /etc/cron.daily
[22:48] <mahakal> what to add in / etc/cron.daily the executable c file or script
[22:50] <pavlos> mahakal: usually you put a script which calls your binary, like /usr/local/bin/mybinary
[22:53] <mahakal> pavlos: in script "/path-to-binary/./binary" will work or "cd path-to-bin && ./binary"
[23:03] <macksfield> why can I get audio output from my PC case, but not the motherboard jacks in the back? My audio settings say 'Digital Output (S/PDIF),' is the system not recognizing that I have speakers plugged into the analog audio jack (not the s/pdif jack)??
[23:03] <mahakal> pavlos : aare you ther
[23:05] <macksfield> I think I need to switch the output from S/PDIF to motherboard analog output, but I'm not sure
[23:07] <jamisnemo> So, apparently I'm not the only one having this issue: Even as root, apt installing packages is often failing with "dpkg: error processing archive [...] Operation not permitted" when it tries to create the '.dpkg-new' file
[23:07] <jamisnemo> Is this a known bug?
[23:07] <jamisnemo> It's happened with kernels and packages for the last couple of weeks on my machine and there are at least 4 people with open bugs of this form on launchpad
[23:07] <jamisnemo> What's the deal?
[23:08] <macksfield> wish I knew enough to help, tis my first install
[23:09] <jwash> hi everyone, my  mouse cursor is stuck on the window resize icon, and I can't click anywhere
[23:09] <jwash> is there a way i can reset the mouse driver?
[23:24] <tgm4883> jamisnemo: link to bug report?
[23:25] <Dreaman> jwash  change mouse
[23:27] <jwash> Dreaman: i put a new mouse on and still the same cursor
[23:28] <jwash> the cursor looks like the german ww1 black cross
[23:28] <Dreaman> o yea
[23:29] <Dreaman> pc problem
[23:29] <Dreaman> not ubuntu
[23:29] <jwash> just like this https://imgur.com/jKRZaFR
[23:30] <jwash> how would that be a pc problem not an OS problem?
[23:30] <Dreaman> is it
[23:30] <d_ven0m> Hello all, I was wondering about the "adduser" command. There is a flag "--system", which says it creates a system account. I was wondering what the significance of a "system account" was. What differs when I specify that flag?
[23:30] <Dreaman> clean pc
[23:31] <bosma> Every time I `systemctl --user enable something.service` I get "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory"
[23:31] <bosma> didn't get straight answer googling
[23:31] <bosma> just for --user, system works
[23:34] <jwash> sudo service lightdm restart
[23:34] <jwash> that fixed it
[23:34] <jwash> but i lost all the progress on my scripts that were running in a terminal
[23:35] <jwash> how is that a PC issue?
[23:36] <Dreaman> usb mouse
[23:36] <Dreaman> or
[23:39] <xar-> jwash: tmux is your friend
[23:40] <Dreaman> jwash   ubuntu is
[23:40] <Dreaman> 17.04
[23:42] <xar-> Dreaman unless you're just being malicious and trolling, jwash hasn't provided nearly enough information for you to condemn his pc
[23:42] <macksfield> do I need to install drivers for my motherboard to get onboard sound working after install ubuntu? :|
[23:42] <pavlos> mahakal: here
[23:43] <Dreaman> no
[23:43] <mahakal> pavlos: thank you that worked and i m now using flock
[23:43] <EldonMcGuinness> Any QoS ninjas around?
[23:43] <pavlos> mahakal: good
[23:44] <pavlos> mahakal: suggestion: use absolute paths, not ./binary
[23:45] <Aginor> d_ven0m: a user user and a system user have different uid (user ID) ranges. A system account is used for services (like apache) and normally don't allow logins
[23:46] <d_ven0m> Aginor: thanks for the response. So does that mean that system accounts are used for non-interactive, non-login "user" accounts used for services and daemons only?
[23:47] <Aginor> d_ven0m: correct. services/daemons should normally run as a separate user so that they can be locked down with as little access as possible, in case they are compromised
[23:48] <xar-> it's actually pretty nebulous, the use of system users vs normal users is merely organizational; but it does make sense to partition them, look at /etc/login.defs, it'll make more sense
[23:49] <d_ven0m> Aginor: Aaah, okay. Thank you very much for the informative response. One last tidbit, when creating these "system users", should they be added to any additional groups or no?
[23:50] <d_ven0m> xar-: Are you saying that there is not actually a real difference between the two besides semantic?
[23:55] <xar-> when you invoke the --system flag, among a lof of other magic, you're basically signaling to the user creation code that it should pick an UID/GID from the predetermined range (training wheels)--a lot of OSes will have various RBAC in place that applies rules based off the ID
[23:56] <mahakal> pavlos: yeah i used absolute path
[23:58] <xar-> while ulimately user management is really an organizational concern, it does make sense to segment based on purpose (what aginor was saying), you want to choose UIDs/GIDs wisely; in most cases, a normal user with a nologin shell does the trick