[04:05] <Firefishe> I'm on Xenial.  I'm getting some repository error messages, and would like to ask for some help deciphering them, please.  Here's my paste output from Terminal:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736154/
[04:05] <Firefishe> Also, what is the command line syntax for pulling in all extant repository keys?
[04:19] <drostie> Firefishe: do you have any interesting things you want to say about your setup?
[04:19] <drostie> also what do you mean 'all extant repository keys' -- all packages that you custom-installed?
[04:21] <Firefishe> drostie: I though there was a command for pulling in all keys for listed and active repos.
[04:21] <Firefishe> drostie: I set this thing up about a month ago, and I've left it alone for a bit.  I don't remember why I initially set up the repos the way I did.
[04:22] <drostie> Oh, you mean into your keyring? like PPAs?
[04:23] <drostie> yeah, looking over it you have a bunch of PPAs. hm.
[04:24] <Firefishe> drostie: I do recall that I'm using another server, rather than Main, as Main was getting to be a bit slowish.
[04:25] <Firefishe> drostie: Incidentally, what's the latest LTS?  Is Xenial deprecated now?
[04:26] <drostie> xenial should still be in its support window I think but I could double-check.
[04:26] <drostie> Latest LTS would be 17.04 which would be Zesty.
[04:27] <Firefishe> 17.04 is LTS?
[04:27] <drostie> Oh no, 17.04 was not LTS, you're right.
[04:28] <Firefishe> ya...I"ll stick with Stable.
[04:29] <drostie> yeah, that's no problem.
[04:30] <Firefishe> drostie: I appreciate the help.  I'll have to research the ppa's to see what I was doing.  That said, is there a way to get a stock sources.list ?  If I, say, rename the old one, move it to another directory to save it, and reboot, will the system default?
[04:31] <Firefishe> Or, I guess rebooting really isn't an issue.  If I update with apt-get, will it throw errors?
[04:32] <drostie> @Firefishe I would definitely rename it but it's only, like, one line that you need
[04:33] <Firefishe> drostie: That one line:  I'm assuming it's a repo index line?
[04:33] <Firefishe> drostie: I'm just trying to eliminate my error messages.
[04:34] <Firefishe> drostie: Well, time to put on my mad scientist foil hat, change the name, and xperixenialment. muaha.
[04:35] <Firefishe> ;-)
[04:36] <drostie> yeah like in my case it would be `deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main universe multiverse restricted`
[04:38] <Firefishe> drostie: I guess I could also just revert through synaptic.
[04:39] <drostie> Firefishe: but there's some stuff about it in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[04:39] <Firefishe> I don't like the newer package managers.  I much prefer synaptic.
[04:39] <drostie> sorry, about *issues* in apt.conf
[04:39] <drostie> like if you need a proxy and one isn't configured in there, or if you need*ed* a proxy and now you don't.
[04:40] <Firefishe> I don't see apt.conf anywhere.  There's an /apt.conf.d/ directory.
[04:40] <Firefishe> That is:  /etc/apt.conf.d  rather
[04:40] <Firefishe> Gads...I"m bad tonight
[04:41] <Firefishe> Thats:  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[04:41] <Firefishe> <--Can be taught with mind control, lasers, and nano brain micro-droids. ;-)
[04:42] <drostie> it also suggests that you might test whether your network is just dropping packets to the right place with wget -qO- http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease  | head
[04:44] <Firefishe> drostie: The output of that command gave me standard output with what looks like a bunch of binary characters.
[04:44] <Firefishe> What is head?
[04:44] <drostie> just truncates to only the first several lines.
[04:45] <Firefishe> I don't think I have packet issues, actually.  I think it's just the repos.
[04:45] <Firefishe> Probably those ppas.
[04:45] <drostie> Firefishe: here's what that gives for me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736313/
[04:46] <drostie> No "binary characters"
[04:47] <drostie> with that said it's worth moving these files and seeing if apt has sane defaults when the files it's looking for aren't there, but it *is* messing with `apt` so definitely don't do anything you can't undo with a livecd.
[04:49] <drostie> also worth checking if any other mirrors do the right thing if archive.canonical.com doesn't.
[04:50] <Firefishe> Let me paste my output.  It's really weird.
[04:52] <Firefishe> drostie:   https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736331/
[04:52] <Firefishe> What terminal/desktop are you usng?
[04:52] <Firefishe> using
[04:52] <Firefishe> I'm using unity/gnome-terminal
[04:53] <drostie> I mean it's a custom shell config but I use zsh underneath.
[04:53] <Firefishe> Yeah, I"m using bash.
[05:00] <drostie> Firefishe: maybe try wget -qO- http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease >/tmp/wat && file /tmp/wat ?
[05:00] <drostie> if that doesn't work maybe gunzip </tmp/wat reveals some weird gzipping?
[05:01] <Firefishe> with the `?'  -- ??
[05:01] <Firefishe> question mark, or not
[05:01] <drostie> No question mark :D
[05:01] <Firefishe> k :-D
[05:03] <Firefishe> drostie: That saved it, but the file can't be opened.
[05:04] <Firefishe> I'm wondering if I'm missing some encryption tools?
[05:09] <drostie> Firefishe: hmmm. does it happen for all web sites or just that domain?
[05:09] <drostie> like can you wget normal http:// stuff?
[05:10] <Firefishe> could you repaste that please?
[05:10] <drostie> repaste what?
[05:10] <Firefishe> the output paste link.
[05:11] <drostie> this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736313/
[05:15] <Firefishe> yes, thank you
[05:18] <drostie> also worth trying with https, maybe it's one of those "check OK to access this network" pages that's on a malfunctioning http server that doesn't do https correctly.
[05:22] <Firefishe> drostie: Sorry, connection issues.
[05:23] <drostie> yeah I can imagine, last thing I said to you was:
[05:23] <drostie> also worth trying with https, maybe it's one of those "check OK to access this network" pages that's on a malfunctioning http server that doesn't do https correctly.
[05:30] <Firefishe> wow
[05:31] <Firefishe> drostie: I just switched the url's to "https" and I get what seems to be a continuous update loop using apt-get.
[05:31] <Firefishe> drostie: This is getting stwange.
[05:31] <Firefishe> ;-)
[05:35] <drostie> yeah. what changed?
[05:36] <drostie> like did you move to a new home? It can't be that you booted up a long-dead computer if you're running xenial.
[05:36] <Firefishe> It's nine years old, actually.  Still working fine.
[05:36] <Firefishe> brb...rest room
[05:47] <Firefishe> back
[05:47] <Firefishe> drostie: My unit is a 2008 Asus G50V(t) RoG Gaming Laptop
[05:48] <Firefishe> drostie: It's a beast! :-D
[05:55] <Firefishe> have to reboot
[10:08] <salvo> ciao
[10:09] <salvo> !list
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[14:36] <mmedt> hi
[14:36] <mmedt> I need a good editor for my AMP html project
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[16:50] <dougl> morning folks
[17:24] <dougl> I am thinking about backing up my OS drives as my installs of Mac OS's are broken and not going to recover - I have learned enough about Macs to know I don't like to be force fed...
[17:25] <dougl> When my desktop in 17.04 goes into suspend mode will my job of copying lots of files to ext4 partitions get inter8pted?>
[17:29] <dougl> or will it not go into suspend mode?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning dougl, I think you would get a notifier popup
[17:40] <BluesKaj> how are you backing up your data ? with rsync?
[18:52] <dougl> BluesKaj, thanks for the info... just a straight copy of data from hfs+ by root cuz that is all I know
[18:53] <dougl> BluesKaj, I would probably temporarily turn off power management
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[23:06] <acheronuk> plasmashell -v
[23:06] <acheronuk> kf5-config -v
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