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d_ven0mThanks a lot for all your help guys00:07
d_ven0mxar-:00:07
d_ven0mAginor:00:07
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bosmaAnyone help on the systemd --user commands not working?00:54
bcowanupgradable and upgradeable get me every time01:04
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jamisnemotgm4883, best I can find is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/171076801:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1710768 in linux (Ubuntu) "package linux-image-extra-4.10.0-32-generic (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: unable to open '/lib/modules/4.10.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e100.ko.dpkg-new': Operation not permitted" [Low,Incomplete]01:54
jamisnemoIt's not package specific. And sometimes re-running the exact same command gets it to work just fine01:55
jamisnemoIt's difficult to replicate unfortunately.01:55
hanasakihello all.... interpretations of what is going on?  "sshd[28094]: Did not receive identification string from 2.9.205.217 port 47457"   SSHD is not running on that port02:03
lotuspsychjehanasaki: did you nmap yourself if your service is running actually?02:04
hanasakilotuspsychje:  nope02:05
hanasakithere are a lot of entries like that in auth.log on diff IP and ports02:05
lotuspsychjehanasaki: can you try an nmap -PN -sV your-ip-here ?02:05
hanasakilotuspsychje:  what do those flags do02:06
lotuspsychjehanasaki: ping and service detection02:06
hanasakilotuspsychje:  may I priv msg you for a minute?02:07
lotuspsychjehanasaki: better stay public mate02:08
hanasakiok02:08
hanasakilotuspsychje:  would you try to ssh to my IP on that port? 47457 ?02:08
lotuspsychjehanasaki: other volunteers might join your issue & help out :p02:08
lotuspsychjehanasaki: perhaps the #openssh channel might be more for your case?02:09
hanasakiperhaps.. lotuspsychje thanks... but trying to find out why sshd is reporting this if its not running on that port02:09
lotuspsychjehanasaki: the logical reason would be what it says, its not running actually?02:11
hanasakisshd -D is running lotuspsychje / on port tcp 22 / if I try to ssh to the box on 47457 it times out02:12
lotuspsychjehanasaki: firewall/router can block?02:13
hggdhhanasaki: this is the source port. Somebody on port 47557 hit you on your SSH port02:13
hggdh(prolly a bot on scan)02:13
hanasakilotuspsychje:  they are hanging off the same hub on diff wires.    also fails on localhost that port02:13
hanasakiis the port in the authlog the src or dst?02:14
hggdhsource02:15
hanasakihggdh:  thanks! bingo02:15
hanasakithought it was dst02:15
hanasakilotuspsychje:  or hggdh ONLY - are either of you able to connect with an ssh client on 22?02:16
hggdhhanasaki: what do you mean? Connect to a SSH server listening on port 22, or connect to an SSH server while have a source port=22?02:17
pijama_boyHey guys, newbie here, finished my ubuntu 16.04 install yesterday, is this the right place to look for help?02:17
hanasakiyour src = tcp ANY / server = your DST = my IP on tcp 2202:17
bcowanpijama_boy: yes02:18
hanasakipijama_boy: just ask02:18
hggdhhanasaki: probably yes. But what do you expect to see?02:18
hanasakiwant you to confirm if 22 is open or not02:18
hggdhhanasaki: he easiest way is sudo netstat -natp | grep 2202:19
pijama_boyI'm having heavy v-sync problems in desktop, youtube, firefox scrolling etc, I tried switching around proprietary nvidia 375, 340 drivers and to free x.org x server but it didn't help02:20
hanasakihggdh:  I don't have a box outside the firewall to test with... thus asking you02:20
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pijama_boyI'm on a laptop, if I select my intel card via prima profiles in nvidia x server the problem goes away02:21
pijama_boybut then I can't use my nvidia gpu02:21
pijama_boyMy card is a gm108m / geforce 840m02:22
hanasakihggdh:  what is the -a in nmap?02:22
hggdhhanasaki: no addres2host resolution02:25
plongshotAm I missing anything? If I want to install the latest version of eclipse on ubuntu - by downloading the package from the eclipse site and proceeding from there - is there anything more than decompressing the package and making sure there is a ( properly configured ) .dedktop file in /usr/share/application ?02:26
plongshot^ will those steps result in the icon showing up in search and the application launching  ( assuming no errors on eclipse side ) ?02:27
bazhangplongshot, what version did you get from the external sources02:28
bazhangplongshot, and what version of ubuntu are you currently using02:28
plongshotbazhang: If I tell you that you won't talk to me anymore, and you'll yell at me  :p02:30
plongshotIt's past version 15 ( how about that? )02:31
bazhangplongshot, not really, eclipxe in the repos is usally way out of date02:31
bazhangrepos02:31
plongshotbazhang: pretty much02:31
plongshotI'm on 16.0402:31
plongshotDOH!02:31
bazhangplongshot, eclips version 15?02:32
plongshotubuntu version02:32
bazhangright02:32
plongshoteclipse version is "oxygen"02:32
bazhangwhats the eclipse02:32
bazhanggot a software number id?02:32
plongshotbazhang: I'll find out - hang on02:32
bazhangok02:33
plongshotbazhang: I thik it's eclipse 4.7 ( oxygen )02:35
bazhangthanks plongshot02:35
lotuspsychjehanasaki: so is it running or not?02:39
hanasakilotuspsychje:  yes.02:39
plongshotbazhang: for what?02:39
lotuspsychjehanasaki: did you nmap your external ip yet?02:40
bazhangplongshot, the version number, looking an answer to your issue02:40
Bashing-ompijama_boy: OK, I take a sjt at it ,, what is ALL is presntly installed . pastebin the outputs of ' sudo lshw -C display ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' . See where we go from here .02:40
Bashing-omshot*02:40
plongshotbazhang: oh. Thanks02:40
plongshotbazhang: Imna give it a shot ( what I think works ). If something messes up I can always backtrack and get back to square one02:41
bazhangyep02:42
plongshotbazhang: I can launch eclipse but no .desktop yet. Need to find an example to mod I guess02:43
plongshot^ I'm just unsure if there is more than that to this process02:44
plongshotI have an idea02:44
[n0mad]be sure that the .desktop doesn't actually exist because i've seen them exist but it not show in the DE until a reboot02:47
plongshotI wonder what the " Keywords=a " feild is for in the .desktop file? Anyone know if this is what the desktop search can find for that application?02:47
plongshoteg: whatever keywords are there is the boundary of the desktop search fo that application?02:48
glitchd_im looking for something like a desktop network indicator that will tell or show me if my server is on or off02:49
glitchd_server=second machine that i have nicknamed server lol02:50
plongshotglitchd_: What do you mean? Like a widget that displays on the desktop / gui ?02:50
kode54wtf02:52
kode54I moved to a new server with 16.0402:52
kode54and now it suddenly claims it requires a reboot for updated 'linux-base' just for purging old kernels02:52
glitchd_plongshot, yea, or an indicator app that can monitor the servers ip02:53
glitchd_im just spit balling trying to figure out what there is02:53
glitchd_or what i can do02:53
plongshotAre there flags for the exec command? I noticed in some of the .desktop files that the exec field ends with a . What is that? I looked at man exec and didn't see anything like it.02:53
plongshot^ "  " sorry02:54
plongshotglitchd_: are you using network manger? ( I think it's the default - or was in 16.04 - what I run )02:55
glitchd_plongshot, yea i do believe so02:55
plongshotglitchd_: Does this ' look ' like the sort of thing you mean? https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntufree.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F11%2FScreenlets-For-Ubuntu-Screenshot.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntufree.com%2Ftop-5-system-monitoring-apps-with-gui-for-ubuntu-14-04-and-14-10%2F&docid=0K2KMKOI2x8jCM&tbnid=H0Rh-giERZYyrM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjVg_baju_WAhUh7YMKHQggCZ4QMwhUKCMwIw..i&w=1000&h=550&client=opera&bih=433&biw=858&02:57
plongshotq=network%20manager%20widget%20indicator%20for%20ubuntu&ved=0ahUKEwjVg_baju_WAhUh7YMKHQggCZ4QMwhUKCMwIw&iact=mrc&uact=802:57
plongshotwow - didn't know it was that long02:58
plongshotwoops!02:58
plongshotglitchd_: there are these : https://www.tecmint.com/screenlets-an-amazing-tool-to-add-desktop-gadgetswidgets-in-linux/02:59
plongshotAnd there's this other thing' but, for the life of me, I can't recall the name02:59
glitchd_sry03:02
glitchd_it looks like this03:02
glitchd_https://imgur.com/a/Ftcrb03:02
glitchd_yea i dont think any of those screenlets are what im looking for03:04
glitchd_eh fuck it, ill figure it out later03:06
glitchd_thx bud, adios03:06
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plongshotgli03:12
plongshotcool03:13
plongshotsorry glitchd03:13
plongshotcomputer crashed03:13
plongshotI'm seeing all these .desktop files where the Exec line ends in "  " What does it mean?03:19
plongshotpercent U03:20
plongshotcan't type it into the irc03:20
unknown-osls -la03:37
unknown-ossorry:)03:37
plongshotWhat is the right way to make a exec path? Do I make a link from somewhere  ( /bin or /usr/bin ) or something?03:40
donavan01can you use wubi to install ubuntu on an SD card I have a mini PCI express to microSD card adpater in my system and it would be really handy to have a linux installation on one of them for utility useage ... not really worried about it being super fast as I mainly need it for things like disk utility for usb devices and such03:55
FirefisheI'm on Xenial.  I'm getting some repository error messages, and would like to ask for some help deciphering them, please.  Here's my paste output from Terminal:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736154/04:04
FirefisheAlso, what is the command line syntax for pulling in all extant repository keys?04:05
lotuspsychjeFirefishe: we dont support ppa's here mate04:16
lotuspsychjeFirefishe: recommended to purge them properly, so you have a clean ubuntu system04:17
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | Firefishe04:17
ubottuFirefishe: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:17
lotuspsychjedonavan01: wubi isnt reccomended anymore04:18
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Firefishelotuspsychje: It's been a while since I've used ubuntu.  Where is the repository index main file?04:19
Firefishe!repos | Firefishe04:20
ubottuFirefishe, please see my private message04:20
lotuspsychje!sources | Firefishe04:20
ubottuFirefishe: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.04:20
lotuspsychje!usb | donavan01 can this help?04:24
ubottudonavan01 can this help?: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:24
donavan01if I run ubuntu as a virtual machine will I be able to use programs like gpart to mess with the partitions of usb and microsd flash memory or will it only see the logical drives created in the virtual environment05:54
doug16kI have to sudo modprobe r8169 every time I reboot to get my nic driver to load. this happened since I broke my compilers (that I've since fixed). how do I fix that?06:02
doug16kI tried mkinitramfs and update-grub and neither did anything to fix dkms06:04
doug16kwould installing r8168-dkms fix it?06:05
doug16kah, it says that it should be purged if the in-kernel r8169 driver works06:07
doug16kwhat would stop nic drivers from loading?06:07
ducassedoug16k: have you added it to /etc/modules? that and running update-initramfs -u should really be enough07:00
ducassealso check that it's not blacklisted07:01
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mboardhello, I install Ubuntu on laptop with windows 10.  It seem like the installation is complete but whenever I am loading the laptop it only boots Windows and does not give me boot option for Ubuntu.  It is Acer Aspire V3-571.  Anybody can tell me how to make bootloader or grub showing?07:11
akikmboard: on my acer f5 laptop, i had to go to the bios and add the uefi bootable file there07:14
akiki don't know if i should say uefi screens07:14
mboardakik ok...  I will see.  when you are saying add the uefi bootable file I must make a link in there to grub?07:15
mboardor it is coming up ?07:16
mboardI am using the laptop now for chatting on here so I cannot test while I am connected07:16
akikmboard: i have a menu option there so i can browse the efi system partition07:16
mboardakik ok I am reboot now and see.  Thank you.  I let you know if it work07:16
akikmboard: did you set the location for grub to be the efi system partition?07:17
danieli_sub guys08:06
danieli_looking for some help with setting up samba shares. I shared two folders from ubuntu succesfully and I can access these shares from two different (W10 and Android) but now Im trying to use a third device (android) to access the shares I cant get past the logon. I have only one samba user that Ive been using succesfully so far.08:09
danieli_this Android that cant access smb shares on my ubuntu, can access shares on Windows so the problem is not on Android.08:10
mboardI just install Ubuntu on the laptop and I try install Google Chrome.  it said it was installed but I cannot find it :(  How do I access it?08:18
dan__Hi I have a question about ubuntu repositories, how are packages maintained? For instance, I've notice some ubuntu packages are behind upstream, tomcat is at verison 8.0.x in ubuntu and on version 8.5.x on appache's website. Any reason for that? Same is true for other packages09:10
ducasse!latest09:12
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:12
ducasseubuntu is not a rollung release, so packages do not receive newer versions after rellease09:13
ducasse*rolling09:14
dan__ducasse: Thanks! Could you tell me how does this compare to OS X and Windows?09:19
Ben64it's completely different09:19
dan__ducasse: I mean, Widows packages are always latest version thanks to installers and update mechanisms, or are they not?09:20
Ben64windows doesn't have a package manager09:20
dan__Ben64: I know the package manager and installer difference, my question is  are OS X and Windows "rolling"?09:21
Ben64no, they don't work the same way09:21
dan__Ben64, and is not a disadvantage not to have the latest version?09:22
ducasseof course not09:22
Ben64it's nice to be able to remain stable09:22
ducasseread what ubottu said above09:22
Ben64it's why i run LTS versions of ubuntu only09:22
mboardis there a way I can find out why my laptop can connect to 2.4GHz wifi but even though it show 5.0 it does not connect?09:41
thirdwhlmboard, what sort of wireless card?09:43
mboardthirdwhl this?  Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)09:44
cfhowlettatheros.  as i suspected09:44
mboardcfhowlett on win partition it connects but on ubuntu it does not, driver issue?09:45
cfhowletteh.  atheros on ubuntu has always been flakey - sorry to say.09:45
mboardcfhowlett hmm ok09:46
cfhowlettwish I had better news or actual advice.  ask again in this channel.  someone more patient than I might be more infomred09:47
cfhowlettinformed09:47
mboardok thank you anyway :)  I will look online and see if I can find information09:47
cfhowlett!atheros | mboard09:48
ubottumboard: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:48
mboardcfhowlett thank you09:48
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CalliopeHi, I am using ubuntu with encrypted luks on an XFS. there was a power outage. I did xfs_repair and recieved this message https://pastebin.com/sMqLS7DV . How do i replay the log?10:49
arunkumar413where are the executive files installed in ubuntu10:49
tomreynarunkumar413: usually in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin10:57
Calliopenvm mounting automatically replays the log.10:58
tomreynarunkumar413: why do you ask, though?11:02
arunkumar413tomreyn: wanna try simple launcher11:02
arunkumar413app11:03
arunkumar413using pygtk11:03
tomreynarunkumar413: i'd rather place that in ~/.local/bin (so within your home directory). ~/.profile should already add this to your PATH so executable binaries should be found there11:05
tomreyntwo reasons: (1) your standard user can write to ~/.local/bin but not the other locations above, (2) you should not place possibly insecure / unreliable executables in system wide directories where any (human or system) user might find / use them.11:07
Cat_BPRMHello, i installed nvidia-prime (i use commands by the way, not the ui) and first, every time i restart i have to set prime to nvidia which is annoying and when iboot up steam and i check the system info, it says intel 570 skylake bulls*** can someon tell me how to fix this?11:10
akikCat_BPRM: you can run commands in either $HOME/.xsessionrc or under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/11:16
Cat_BPRMI'm more concerne about the other problem... but thanks11:17
arunkumar413join  ##pygtk11:27
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arunkumar413tomreyn: at where are the app icons placed11:51
tomreynarunkumar413: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en11:58
MonkeyDustyes12:03
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Cat_BPRMHello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already)12:19
BendrHello, i run a command in the terminal that outputs an arbitrarily long output and i want to save this for some further analysis, is there a way to effectively do this?12:21
ktechmidas> output.txt12:21
Bendroh that's great, thanks ktechmidas12:21
ktechmidas:)12:21
ktechmidasappend it to the end of the command, in case I didn't explain well enough12:22
Bendrwell, i was familiar with such command in the past, but it vanished from my brain with time12:22
pabed_hello guys , this is out put of apt update http://paste.ubuntu.com/25737933/ what happen to it?12:22
Bendrktechmidas, sorry, but is it -v for verbal?12:24
rdhverbose12:24
Bendr--verbose? like this?12:25
Bendridk, i'm appending the output but i can't see it in realtime which is slightly not best12:26
ioriatee12:26
ioria cat myfile  | tee -a  output.txt12:28
lostfiledont ask me how but i managed to dump my irclogs to a drive12:30
lostfilewell sort of12:30
lostfilehttps://www.dyne.org/software/tomb/12:30
Cat_BPRM Hello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already) - please ping me, im watching youtube...12:31
lostfileeh my nvidia never work right so i dont bother playing games12:33
lostfileunless its quake12:33
lostfileor quake312:33
Dreamanplayone12:37
Dreamannvidia driver is card12:37
Dreamanhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/25738010/     lostfile12:38
lostfilethanks12:38
lostfilemines a GeForce GTX 760/PCIe/SSE212:39
Dreamansame driver12:40
Dreamanbut my is 17.10 beta12:40
Dreamanubuntu12:40
Dreamannew kernel 4.13.612:40
pingwindyktatorHello. Weird question. Can someone check for me is bzz utility implicitly installed in Ubuntu?12:47
ioriapingwindyktator, with bzz, you mean  libzzip-0-13    - read access on ZIP-archives  - ?12:50
pingwindyktatorhttps://linux.die.net/man/1/bzz <- ioria12:50
alkisgThe program 'bzz' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:12:51
alkisgsudo apt install djvulibre-bin12:51
alkisgSo, no12:51
pingwindyktatorokay. thanks a lot!12:51
ioriapingwindyktator, yeah, that ^12:51
Cat_BPRMHello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already) - please ping me, im watching youtube...12:52
DreamanCat_BPRM  17.0412:55
Dreamanmy is auto12:56
Cat_BPRMno 16.0412:56
Dreamanheh12:56
Dreamanupgread12:56
Cat_BPRMoh hat reminds me, i cant access system settings12:56
Cat_BPRMwhen i press system preferences it doesnt load12:56
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Dreamanhttps://imgur.com/a/gllss  Cat_BPRM12:57
Dreamanto old ubuntu12:58
Dreamanuse12:58
Dreamanlts but12:58
Cat_BPRMim confused12:58
Dreamani am12:58
Dreamanuse this12:59
Cat_BPRMuse what12:59
Dreaman17.04 final12:59
Cat_BPRMokay, how12:59
Cat_BPRMXD12:59
Dreamanmy is 17.10 beta12:59
Dreaman2 weeks is a final13:00
Cat_BPRMHow do i upgrade? i cant access my system preferences13:00
Dreamanhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-0413:01
arunkumar413how to remove unity and install other desktop UI13:02
arunkumar413I'm using 16.04. Unity is very slow13:03
Dreamanupgread13:03
Dreaman17.0413:03
Dreamanold kernel old unity13:04
Dreamanslow13:04
Dreamanold gnome13:04
arunkumar413Dreaman: I want to try with lxde or xfe13:05
arunkumar413which is better UI?13:05
Dreamanxubuntu13:05
Dreamanxfce13:05
alkisgmate :D13:06
Dreamancinnamon13:07
Dreamangnome 2 style13:07
arunkumar413??13:08
Dreamansystem is13:08
Dreamanprocessor ram13:08
BluesKajHiyas all13:09
lostfilehello blueskaj13:09
arunkumar413Amd A813:10
arunkumar413quad core13:10
arunkumar413with a dedicated graphic card13:10
BluesKajhi lostfile13:10
Dreamanram13:10
arunkumar4134 GB13:10
Dreamanclean ubuntu amd 6413:10
lostfileim using ubuntu 17.1013:10
Dreaman17.0413:10
lostfileit comes with gnome i think13:10
Dreamanno13:10
arunkumar413Dreaman: should I upgrade13:11
Dreamanhybrid13:11
arunkumar413and see13:11
lostfileyes13:11
Dreamangnome some unity13:11
Dreamanyes13:11
lostfilethats what i meant13:11
BluesKaj17.10 has gnome by default I think13:11
lostfilei would recommend that u use the long term support13:12
lostfileif you want every thing to be stable13:12
Dreamanis not13:12
BluesKajI'm a KDE/Plasma guy13:12
Dreamanclean gnome13:12
Dreamanhybrid13:12
arunkumar413ya that's why I'm using the 16.04 but performance isn't up to the mark13:13
arunkumar413it freezes sometimes and can't handle even 10 browser tabs13:13
arunkumar413lemme try with lxde and see13:14
Dreamanhttps://imgur.com/a/iouG6  this is 17.10 this moment 4k13:15
BluesKajifmaybe amore ram will help, specially if you have 10 media heavy sites up13:15
BluesKajoops maybe more ram13:16
BluesKajarunkumar413,^13:17
lostfilei have 16gb of ram13:18
Dreamanmy is laptop13:19
Dreamanno pc13:19
lostfileoh13:19
lostfilei have a desktop13:19
arunkumar413BluesKaj: now playing 6 youtube videos it occupied 90 % of Ram13:20
lostfilea asus g20 desktop13:20
Dreamanand use 16.0413:20
Dreamanupgread13:20
BluesKajarunkumar413, yup, that make sense13:20
BluesKajmakes13:21
arunkumar413all processors occupying more than 60%13:21
* BluesKaj needs more coffee13:21
Dreaman4k video13:21
* lostfile had to much coffee13:21
BluesKajmemeory or cpu?13:21
arunkumar413memory 90% and processors more than 60%13:22
Dreamanswap more13:22
Dreamanis good ide13:22
Dreaman16 gb ram 20 gb swap13:22
arunkumar413just closed the browser and the memory is  60%13:22
arunkumar413swap total is 3.5gigs13:23
Dreamansudo su13:23
Dreamanpass13:23
arunkumar413but it occupied only 5%13:23
Dreamanapt-get autoclean13:23
Dreamanapt-get autoremove13:23
BluesKajarunkumar413, swap should more than your ram13:23
arunkumar413it should be double than RAM13:24
BluesKajbe13:24
arunkumar413but it isn't occupied mich13:24
arunkumar413much13:24
BluesKaj1.5 X13:24
arunkumar413just 5% is occupied13:24
arunkumar413should I increase it13:24
BluesKajswap like you ram is dynamic13:25
BluesKajyes at least 6G13:25
arunkumar413any command to increase it13:25
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BluesKajuse a partitoner like gparted to resize your swap13:26
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Dreamanhttps://imgur.com/a/OsWsG   8k video13:28
Dreamanthis is13:28
arunkumar413mine is a 4GB ram why does system monitor shows only 3.3 gigs13:28
Dreamanlaptop13:28
wook_mine does the same thing, running the "free" command shows i only have 3.8gb13:29
lostfilesome times the os its self uses ram13:29
lostfileso if i have 16gib i can only use 15gb13:29
wook_it's rediculous actually, cuz server apps such as bigbluebutton requires 4gb of RAM and even if u have 4gb it'll repeatedly remind u "hey u don't have the minimum system specs" when u run a "--check" command on it13:30
lostfilewell from my understang of it any ways13:30
lostfileunderstanding13:31
oerheksarunkumar413, maybe your intergrated graphics snoops of your ram too13:31
arunkumar413okay just installed the gparted but unable to edit the swap partition13:32
lostfilethat could also be the case13:32
arunkumar413resize option is grayed out13:32
arunkumar413also there is no mount point for that13:32
Dreamani use 1 gb boot  10 gb swap and 88 gb root my sata hdd but laptop i use 10 win ssd 96 gb13:32
Dreamandual boot13:32
rdharunkumar413, being used, youll have to do it in a livecd13:33
Dreamaninstall ubunu in ssd i fly13:33
Dreamanbut not good idea13:33
oerheksrdh +1 mounted swap, disable swap first ..13:33
BluesKaja live media version is required if you are resizing the partition your OS is installed on13:33
rdharunkumar413, actually, there is swapoff command.13:33
arunkumar413rdh: lemme try with swapp off command13:34
arunkumar413hope system wont crash13:34
oerhekslolz <arunkumar413>BluesKaj: now playing 6 youtube videos it occupied 90 % of Ram13:34
Dreamanarunkumar413  open terminal sudo su pass    apt-get update    apt-dist--upgrade13:38
arunkumar413there isn't much free space to increase the swap. Have to resize13:38
arunkumar413the ext partition13:38
oerheksDreaman, strange command, does not work on linux13:39
oerheksdon't suggest sudo su..13:39
oerheks'sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade' is correct13:40
Dreamanuse old13:40
Dreamanubuntu13:40
Dreaman16.0413:40
Dreamanapt only not work13:40
oerheksDreaman, yes it does, as of 16.0413:41
obinoobHi I wonder if virtualhost config will override apache default server apache2.conf or default.conf config ?13:42
obinoobI'm having troubles to enable url rewrite throught .haccess and nothing worked till I changed <Directory /var/www/>  AllowOverride none </Directory> to <Directory /var/www/>  AllowOverride all </Directory> ?!?13:42
alkisgarunkumar413: there's no reason to increase your swap partition size, unless you want to hibernate, in which case it should be > ram size13:42
arunkumar413https://imagebin.ca/v/3dlE6vPr8lHN13:43
arunkumar413here is the partition information13:43
arunkumar413no extra space available13:43
Dreamanoerheks  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25738365/   i use no problem13:43
alkisgYou won't see any performance difference with increased swap size13:43
arunkumar413alkisg: okay. I just installed the lxde dekstop. How to switch to it from unity13:44
alkisgarunkumar413: you logout and the select the lubuntu session in the login manager (lightdm)13:44
Dreamanarunkumar413  your pc is not low why us lxde or xfce13:45
alkisgYeah there's no reason to use lxde13:45
arunkumar413Dreaman: it's very slow13:45
alkisgWhat's your CPU?13:45
Dreamana8 amd13:45
arunkumar413AMD A8 quad core processor with 4gigs ram and a dedicated graphic card13:46
alkisgThis one? https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-3850+APU13:46
Dreamanand13:46
Dreamanamd6413:46
Dreamanubuntu 17,0413:46
Dreamaninstall13:46
alkisg!enter13:46
ubottuPlease try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.13:46
arunkumar413ya it's a 64 bit with ubuntu 16.0413:47
lasersHi. This is a shot in the dark. Looking for somebody with 'Remv' in their output when they run 'apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run'13:47
oerheksDreaman, please, let arunkumar413 answer, the question was not for you13:47
Dreamanok13:47
alkisgarunkumar413: And what's the output of this command? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 3 VGA13:47
arunkumar413http://paste.ubuntu.com/25738410/13:48
arunkumar413alkisg: few days back I tried the AMDgpu driver but it didn't work13:49
alkisgOK, the system seems fine, when it's "slow", does it start using swap at that time?13:49
arunkumar413alkisg: I didn't check that13:49
alkisgRun `free` when it's slow and look at the last line13:49
alkisgIf it starts using swap, it'll be slow, yeah13:50
alkisgSo then you'd need more ram etc13:50
alkisgIf not... something else is the issue13:50
arunkumar413alkisg:13:50
arunkumar413great13:50
arunkumar413Now I want to try lxde and see if unity is the spoil sport here13:50
oerheksarunkumar413, logout, change DE ( top right corner)  and login13:51
alkisgIf you google for benchmarks online, you'll see that it doesn't make much difference13:51
binarydepthDoes anyone knows how to use resize.f2fs?, the manual is a bit short13:52
oerheksbinarydepth, f2fs can only be increased, but i told you this before?13:53
binarydepthoerheks I understood I can take up the free space after the f2fs partition13:53
arunkumar413I logged out and logged in but there wasn't any option to select the UI13:54
alkisgarunkumar413: ls /usr/share/xsessions13:56
arunkumar413ubuntu.desktop13:56
mmkumrIs there any software for vldc simulation for ubuntu.13:56
alkisgarunkumar413: then you didn't install lxde13:56
oerheksbinarydepth, according to your post, after sda2 there is sda4, so you cannot increase. only space available is between sda4 - sda313:57
arunkumar413I installed the lxde from synaptic13:57
oerheksbinarydepth, looking at https://askubuntu.com/questions/964398/can-i-resize-an-f2fs-partition-ubuntu-17-0413:57
ikoniammkumr: what is vldc ?13:57
oerheksbinarydepth, look at the star and end sectors , you will figure it out13:58
binarydepthoerheks what I can't figure out is the part "-t target sectors"13:58
ikoniatarget sector, what the devil are you doing13:59
arunkumar413trying these commands https://www.hiroom2.com/2017/07/26/ubuntu-1604-lxde-en/13:59
ikoniawhy are you blindly trying commands13:59
ikoniajust ask about what you're unsure what to do14:00
ikoniarather than finding random posts on the internet14:00
mmkumrikonia: Sorry:( I have done spelling mistake. Actually I mean to say is vhdl simulator for ubuntu14:01
ikoniawhat is vhdl ?14:01
oerheksbinarydepth, again, there is no unallocated space next to the f2fs partition, is what i see, in your fdisk print14:02
arunkumar413it's a hard ware description language14:02
binarydepthOh yes sorry I have to update that14:03
binarydepthoerheks14:03
arunkumar413for developing digital electronic semiconductor devices14:03
oerheksbinarydepth, oke, pastebin your current fdisk please?14:03
arunkumar413mmkumr: are you from Electronics background?14:03
binarydepthoerheks http://paste.ubuntu.com/25738491/14:06
akikmmkumr: check out freehdl14:06
mmkumrikonia: VHSIC (Very-High Speed Integrated Circuit) Hardware Description Language14:07
mmkumrakik: ok14:07
mmkumrakik: Now I am trying GHDL14:07
akikgvhdl?14:08
akikoh there's ghdl too14:08
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mmkumrakik: Yes:)14:09
arunkumar413switched to lxde. It's fast14:09
oerheksbinarydepth, oke, you should be able to increase sda2, 452085760 - 284313599 =167772161 blocks .. on a live iso, ofcourse?14:11
arunkumar413i see may entries Lubuntu.desktop  Lubuntu-Netbook.desktop  LXDE.desktop  openbox.desktop  ubuntu.desktop14:12
oerheksor start live iso, install f2fs-tools, and drag in gparted14:13
Dreamanomg14:13
binarydepthok I'll log back when I'm in live session14:14
binarydepthoerheks14:14
Dreamanre install all system whith 17.04 ubuntu14:14
Dreamanand work14:14
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TheWildhello14:19
TheWildls: reading directory '.': Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character14:19
TheWildtotal 014:19
TheWildnow what?14:19
TheWild^ NTFS partition14:20
binarydepthoerheks I get this error: Error: Support resize to expand only14:21
arunkumar413how to launch lxlauncher14:21
BluesKajarunkumar413, read the lxde documentation14:24
alkisgTheWild: chkdsk /f from windows?14:36
alkisgAlso, are you using UTF-8 charset?14:36
binarydepthThnks for the help oerheks I will have to use a backup and reformat the partition14:36
TheWildno. Windows is dead. Last time I did chkdsk /f, it said the disk is fine.14:37
TheWildthe glitch only occurs in $RECYCLE.BIN (so no big deal), but I'm still interested what's there.14:38
alkisgTheWild: env | grep ^L; cat /proc/mounts => output?14:38
alkisgYou can run chkdsk /f from a windows installation cd14:39
alkisgIt's even better because the disk isn't in use14:39
alkisgAnd you can run it from linux too, but of course it's closed sourced file system etc etc14:39
compdocTheWild, ms dskchk isnt a reliable way to know if the disk is dying. need to look at SMART14:40
TheWildI had a recovery partition from which it was possible to run CMD and run chkdsk14:40
TheWildSMART stats are OK.14:40
compdoc*chkdsk14:40
alkisgPaste the output of those commands...14:41
TheWildhttp://termbin.com/0t1v14:41
nugrohooysttyer14:43
nugrohottytter14:45
acheron-a?join ##hamradio14:54
tomreyn/join14:54
EvilClownPorks have athere on radio statio?14:55
Toba...porks?14:55
ikoniahe made a typo, let it go14:56
BluesKajEvilClown, http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/origin-of-ham.htm14:57
TheWildso far nothing helped. Should I really try launching Windows to read what's in that directory?15:00
Coolerwhy can't i select sublime text from the open with menu?15:07
Coolerits not listed in the applications list15:07
Cooleralso does nautilus hide the file extensions by default?15:08
EriC^^Cooler: no15:09
alkisgTheWild: yes, broken closed sourced file systems aren't the best, try their native os to fix them15:11
TheWildok15:11
alkisgThere's also ntfsfix etc, but of course not as reliable as the native implementation15:12
ioriaCooler, you need a specific item.desktop in .local/share/applications15:12
TheWildnah, ntfsfix is almost useless.15:12
alkisgIt's best not to use ntfs if you no longer use windows15:13
TheWildI wanted to avoid Windows because my 7.5 year old laptop is broken to the point that won't run any OS if it is installed on HDD, but maybe mounting a disk under virtual machine will do it.15:13
TheWildI want to convert this disk to ext4 or something else linux-like, but first I have to copy all data from this disk to another disk.15:14
Coolerioria: what?15:15
Coolerfor drag and drop to work?15:15
new_ubuntueruname -I15:15
new_ubuntueroutputs version15:16
oerheksCooler, maybe you need to logout/login after install sublime text, or type sublime in the search F215:16
baxxanyone using i3 with ubuntu / Lubuntu ( i'm on lubuntu )15:16
new_ubuntuerbut how to define output as variable15:16
ioriaCooler, for a custom launcher from "Open with"  menu, you need a .desktop file in that dir (if not native)15:16
new_ubuntuervar=$(uname -I)15:17
new_ubuntuernot working :(15:18
lostfilebummer15:19
oerheksecho $(uname -r)15:20
gr4ych1ldI am looking nice program for network scan and control like dameware15:21
kk4ewtno idea what dameware is but linux has network scan tools15:22
oerheksdameware is just a remote managment util, https://alternativeto.net/software/dameware/?platform=linux15:23
new_ubuntueroops 4.4.0-1022-aws instead of x86_64 oerheks15:23
gr4ych1ldthanks oerheks15:23
oerheksnew_ubuntuer, you want the arch type?15:24
new_ubuntuerI want to check if it is 32 or 6415:25
oerheksuname -m15:25
gr4ych1ldI am looking nice shoutcast listen app like winamp15:25
new_ubuntuerbut want output to be set as variable oerheks15:26
oerheksnew_ubuntuer, well, adjust your line to -m ?15:27
new_ubuntuerokay15:27
oerheksgr4ych1ld, tons of mediaplayers can handle a stream, and all look nice15:28
gr4ych1ldok oerheks thanks15:28
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new_ubuntueroerheks but what is variable name and where it is defined I can't see variable name echo $(uname -m)15:30
ikoniayou set the variable name15:30
ikonianew_ubuntuer: what are you doing and for who15:30
ikoniait looks like you're copying a script you don't really understand15:30
new_ubuntuercopying !! in terms of ?15:31
ikoniain terms of you've found a script somewhere and you're copying it to try to do something else15:32
new_ubuntuerno  what I am doing is15:32
new_ubuntuermaking script which gets important info about system and show it in a window15:33
ikonianew_ubuntuer: ok - so you either want to use one of the MANY tools and scripts that already do that, or you need to join a scripting tutorial / suport channels15:34
oerheks2328 pages with conky scripts ... https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=232815:35
new_ubuntuerhehe15:37
new_ubuntuerI want to do on my own15:37
oerheksohh, then you don't need help15:37
new_ubuntuerneed help15:38
new_ubuntuerbut I want to make my own script15:38
new_ubuntuerwrite my script resin is that15:38
new_ubuntuerthere are many ways to do same thing15:38
ikoniaok - write your own script then, and use a scripting support channel15:39
new_ubuntuerreason*15:39
new_ubuntuerso if I get someones script and I want to modify something for a noob like me its very hard15:39
new_ubuntuerscripting channel ?15:39
oerheksdon't use enter as punctuation15:40
akiknew_ubuntuer: echo $var shows the value15:40
lasersI want to write a script too. What command can I use to get exhaustive information on package changes?15:40
oerheksapt-get changelog <package> ,  may not have all third party changelog files, if they didn't add them to it.15:41
lasersoerheks: Ah. More description required. List of packages to be installed, configured, removed, upgraded, etc.15:42
lasersapt list --upgradeable  # does not show everything.15:42
oerhekslasers, you want too much. check out /var/log/dpkg.log15:44
lasersoerheks: Hmm. Too old. I like 'apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run'.  The lines only printed 'Conf' and 'Inst'... Not same as the information right before the lines.15:47
lasers(Missing information: Packages no longer required... and following NEW packages).15:48
new_ubuntuerhello15:49
phos1_I have got myself blocked by the firewall on Ubuntu 14, I have been able to get in through a remote computer, how can i whitelist myself?15:52
ikoniaphos1_: how are you managing the firewall15:52
phos1_ikonia: Its not my server so i"m not sure what was setup, I just got access to it, had a few failed passwords getting in and then got locked out15:53
ikoniaphos1_: ok - so talk to the person who's server it is and ask them to whitelist you15:53
ikoniaphos1_: hang on - failed passwords = firewall lock out, thats unlikely15:54
phos1_They are not around or I would, it's now my problem.15:54
phos1_Yeah failed SSH passwords15:54
mboardphos1_ normally ubuntu uses ufw, if you have csf/lfd or fail2ban installed then it can cause lockout15:54
phos1_When I try to connect in i get connection refused15:54
ikoniaso I suspect fail2ban is auditing the secure log15:54
ikoniaphos1_: first thing is to flush the firewall wall rule blocking you15:55
ikoniaor look to see if it has a time out (I think it's normally 3 hours by default )15:55
phos1_I waited 12 hours and I"m still blocked15:55
ikoniaso look at the config15:55
phos1_Fail2ban does seem to be installed15:57
mboardfail2ban uses iptable rules if I remember correctly, didnt use for a long time15:58
ikoniait does15:58
phos1_How can i flush the IPtables?15:59
mboardphos1_ use google :)15:59
ikoniaunless you know the firewall, it's not something I'd suggest15:59
ikoniaI'd suggest you just drop the rule thats blocking you15:59
ikoniaI'd also suggest putting your details in the fail2ban whitelist16:00
pavlosiptables -F (see man iptables16:00
ikoniarestarting the firewall will then make sure you're details don't get used to trigger the blocking16:00
phos1_That's what I've been trying, I just tried to restart fail2ban and it failed because a socket file is present16:00
ikoniaphos1_: restarting fail2ban won't change the firewall16:00
ikoniait's a trigger to iptables, it doesn't actually store the firewall details itself16:00
phos1_I did do several things to whitelist my IP in IP tables does it require restarting IP tables after that for it to take effect16:02
ikoniaphos1_: what did you do in iptables16:02
ikoniaI find it odd that you've done "several things" in iptables, but you don't know how to flush the rules16:02
ikoniathat seems like saying I'm doing brain surgery but I don't know how to turn the lights on16:02
phos1_Gooleling blindly, i'm not very familure with IP tables..16:02
mboardphos1_ why would somebody give you access to their server if you don't know how to reset a firewall? ;o16:03
ikoniaso making random changes to the firewall when a.) you don't know the tools b.)you don't know the setup seems the worst possible approach16:03
arunkumar413after installing lxde. I'm unable to select the other UIs at the login screen16:03
arunkumar413By  default it's the login screen is lbuntu16:04
oerheksarunkumar413, logout, change DE ( top right corner)  and login16:05
arunkumar413oerheks: tried but it doesn't show other desktops16:05
oerhekssame way as ou changed unity16:05
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oerheksstrange, as you seem to installed lxde on top of unity16:06
alkisgarunkumar413: now, ls /usr/share/xsessions, does it show anything else than ubuntu.desktop?16:09
arunkumar413alkisg: these are the entries in the xsessions file Lubuntu.desktop          LXDE.desktop     ubuntu.desktop16:10
arunkumar413Lubuntu-Netbook.desktop  openbox.desktop16:10
alkisgarunkumar413: and when you logout, do you see an option to select any one of them, even just ubuntu?16:11
alkisgOr you didn't find the option at all?16:11
alkisgAlso, which ubuntu version, 16.04?16:11
TheWildhello16:22
TheWildaccording to our previous discussion about installing from .deb16:22
TheWildhttps://hastebin.com/owucinucip.sql16:22
TheWildwhy doesn't it attempt to resolve dependencies?16:22
ikoniait does try16:22
ikoniait fails16:22
ikoniathis is why you shouldn't do what you are trying to do16:23
TheWildwhy?16:23
ikoniawhy whwat16:23
ikoniawhat ?16:23
TheWildwhy I shouldn't do it?16:23
ikoniabecause it's not going to be using packages / dependencies that are provided / supported by ubuntu16:23
ikoniawhy would you not use the version provided by ubuntu16:24
TheWildah sh. my bad. It's 16.04 AFAIK, but I accidentally got 16.1016:24
TheWildwill be back.16:24
TheWildikonia: you mean what's available via apt get after apt update?16:25
ReedK0someone help me set my partitions16:25
ReedK0please16:25
ikoniaTheWild: you're trying to install virtualbox right ?16:26
compdocReedK0, best to let the OS installer do it16:26
TheWildyup16:26
ikoniaTheWild: why would you not just do apt-get install virtualbox16:26
ikonia(or vbox - I can't remember the package name off the top of my head)16:26
ReedK0ReedK0, no it's not.  My instller wanted to install it on the 8 gb remaining on my windows drive16:26
ikoniawhy are you putting the deb onto the file system16:26
ReedK0I need to manually do it, man.16:26
TheWildwhat's the chance that the package is up to date? I'm trying to not rely on repo at all.16:27
ReedK0I'm thinking to make /boot / /home swap (don't know the mount point)....16:27
ReedK0And then /win (for windows sharing).16:27
ReedK0And I was thinking to keep all of my pics, docs, vids, and audio files at the /win directory16:28
ReedK0partition*16:28
ReedK0Would it be smart to make one more dedicated to, for example, programs?  Or is that what /home is for?16:28
ReedK0and how solid is the name "home"?  Because that's really dreary to call a place on a harddrive your home16:29
BluesKajReedK0, the moubtpoints can be set by right clicking on the target partition and choosing it in the drop down in manual partitoning16:29
ReedK0i'm not sure what to set them as.16:29
ReedK0you mean i can change them any time?16:29
BluesKajno, just during the installation16:30
adrian_1908ReedK0: home is for your personal files, mostly configuration. Whether you also keep your media there is up to you. But it's certainly an established thing, not something random.16:30
ReedK0Then where do my programs go?16:30
BluesKajyou must choose a / (root) partition for the OS16:31
adrian_1908ReedK0: /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, /opt for example.16:31
adrian_1908ReedK0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard16:31
ReedK0So I should make a /usr and a /opt partition also, right?16:31
ReedK0brb let me read that again16:32
BluesKajReedK0, usually / and /home partitions are sufficient16:32
adrian_1908ReedK0: No need to give yourself a headache over this. A /boot partition, and a / (root) partition should be fine for regular use. The hierarchy is there to work for you.16:33
adrian_1908Or maybe /home as BluesKaj said.16:33
pinaplejuicsorry dc16:38
pinaplejuicit's reed16:39
pinaplejuicwhat's up16:39
mguyNo matter how long you think about your partitioning, you're going to end up change it because you're out of space at some point16:39
oerheks!partitioning16:39
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap16:39
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pinaplejuicI just got a few questions about it, you know?16:40
adrian_1908And swap is a file in recent Ubuntu versions (like in Windows), so you'd probably not create a swap partition anymore either. Gotta go, good luck.16:40
oerhekspinaplejuic, "it" ??16:40
pinaplejuicI actually want to have a partition completely dedicated to programs.  is that a stupid idea?16:40
pinaplejuicyeah it the themed topic (partitioning linux installations)16:41
pinaplejuicoh no more swap interesting16:41
pinaplejuici'll go read that one now brb16:41
oerheks!enter16:41
ubottuPlease try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.16:41
pinaplejuicIt's not easier to follow if they're separate trains of thought, oerheks.  Unfortunately, IRC doesn't support multi-line messages.  If you use a line break, this is what happens. *nothing happens*16:43
oerhekspinaplejuic, it is not.16:43
pinaplejuichttps://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/installation_guide/sect-disk-partitioning-setup-s390#sect-recommended-partitioning-scheme-s390 This is what I've been reading16:44
ikoniaTheWild: not relying on the repo is the worst possible model to take16:44
ikoniaTheWild: what is wrong with the version in the repo16:44
pinaplejuicOkay so if I post a link by itself, does the title of the document appear via a bot?  Or does that bot just not exist in this channel, oerheks ?16:44
oerhekspinaplejuic, we have no such bot function.16:45
oerheksthis is ubuntu support, why posting redhat stuff ?16:45
pinaplejuicYeah, I guess sisters always tear each other's eyes out over whose clothes are cuter rather than civilly sharing and touting one another regardless of who's looking.16:47
pinaplejuicman cause it's cool that's why.16:47
ikoniapinaplejuic: ?16:47
ikoniapinaplejuic: does that document actually apply to the ubuntu partitioning layout/tools/model16:47
alkisgpinaplejuic: using a single partition for everything is simpler, and you only have one centralized free file system space to worry about. If you don't have specific reasons to use multiple partitions... don't.16:48
pinaplejuicIt pertains to the question.  I haven't found anyhting similar for ubuntu16:48
ikoniapinaplejuic: does that document apply to the ubuntu tooling/partitioning utilities/layout ?16:48
oerhekspinaplejuic, yes you do, ubottu gave a perfect tutorial, when you joined this channel16:49
pinaplejuicikonia, yes.16:49
pinaplejuicno, ubottu didn't becuase it doesn't answer the questions16:49
pinaplejuicI looked over the document, and it didn't answer any of the questions that were asked.16:49
ikoniapinaplejuic: ubottu will respond to triggers16:49
ikoniapinaplejuic: ok - so that document doesn't actually confirm to the ubuntu recommendations/default layout16:50
oerhekspinaplejuic, you didn't read the questions at all, stop trolling16:50
ikoniaI does provide some useful background reading16:50
pinaplejuicthe default layout asked me to delete my windows harddrive.16:50
arm1eHi. Im testing 17.10 and cant get appindicators to show. Any advice?16:50
pinaplejuici asked the question, I'm sure I read it.16:50
ikoniapinaplejuic: no it didn't16:50
ikoniapinaplejuic: what is the exact problem you are trying to solve16:50
ikoniaarm1e: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 17.10 discussion16:50
pinaplejuicHow many partitions and the appropriate mount points.16:51
ikoniapinaplejuic: so that is personal preference16:51
pinaplejuicexactly16:51
ikoniapinaplejuic: it's up to you how you lay your system out16:51
pinaplejuicI have an idea of how I want to lay it out, but I'm not sure that my idea makes sense so I'm asking people who are more experienced.16:52
ikoniapinaplejuic: so show your layout and ask for a review16:52
pinaplejuicokay. brb16:52
oerheksubuntu 17.04 uses 1 partition, including swapfile16:52
ikoniapinaplejuic: it doesn't have to be this confrontational, just ask clearly what you need help with and the ubuntu context16:52
oerheksi'll bet he does not use ubuntu at all16:53
ikoniait's quite possible16:53
pinaplejuic16.04 lts: /boot 1GB / 40GB /win 300GB /home 100GB /usr 150GB /opt 150GB16:55
ikoniapinaplejuic: why put /usr and /opt on seperate partitions16:55
ikoniaand certainly that size...wow, thats juge16:56
ikoniahuge16:56
TheWildikonia: "the worst possible model to take". For example when latest stable version of PHP was 7.1.9, in repo it was 7.1.0. This actually wasn't a big deal, but I've seen software that wasn't updated for years in the repo.16:56
TheWildwas that youtube-dl?16:56
ikoniaTheWild: it is updated16:56
ikoniaTheWild: it's updated and supported and maintained16:56
pinaplejuicBecause if the main operating system was damaged, I'd still want to keep the partitions with my programs on them16:56
ikoniaTheWild: if you're chasing version numbres, you have failed16:56
ikoniapinaplejuic: if the operating system is damaged, those binaries are worthless16:56
ducassepinaplejuic: to do that you backup a list of installed packages16:57
pinaplejuicso there's no safe place for the programs?16:57
ikoniapinaplejuic: I'm not sure what you're asking16:57
ikoniapinaplejuic: the operaitng system and the tools on top are linked16:57
ikoniaboth are worthless without the other16:57
pinaplejuicwell I was thinking after configuring the OS and getting everything really nice, I would clone it to a seprate computer16:57
ikoniapinaplejuic: thats a bad idea16:58
ikoniapinaplejuic: and having seperate partitions like that won't make it any easier/better16:58
ikoniapinaplejuic: you'll find it probably makes it harder16:58
pinaplejuicPortable is such a bad idea, even in linux still?16:58
ikoniapinaplejuic: no, portable is a good idea, and it's very doable16:58
pinaplejuicokay well that's what I want to do: portable so I can clone it to other computers16:58
ikoniapinaplejuic: other computers that are identical ?16:59
pinaplejuicI'm really worried that I won't be able to access any pictures or videos from windows, though.  I sometimes am forced to use windows16:59
pinaplejuicno. they are not identical16:59
ikoniapinaplejuic: then actually making an install profile rather htan a "clone" would be better16:59
pinaplejuicdifferent models.  and even if they were the same, I suppose every snowflake is unique16:59
ikoniapinaplejuic: using deployment tools16:59
ikoniapinaplejuic: if they are the same, they are not snowflakes17:00
pinaplejuicokay, well i'll bookmark that for later.  But for now, this17:00
alkisgpinaplejuic: 100 GB Windows, 100 GB WinHome/Data, 500 GB Ubuntu, 8 GB Swap. Don't worry too much about cloning, multiple partitions don't help in cloning.17:00
pinaplejuicSo, do I need to do anything now?  Or can I set up deployment tools later?17:00
ikoniapinaplejuic: just focus on getting a nice clean setup on your current machine17:00
ikoniaeg: why bother with /opt and /usr17:00
pinaplejuicalso /win is not for WINDOWS OS.  /win is for accessing media via my Windows OS (which is on a different HDD).17:01
pinaplejuicright nix those17:01
ikoniapinaplejuic: so you can go ahead with what you want to do then17:01
ikoniasizes seem very big, but only you know what space you're going to use17:01
pinaplejuicso for example, I don't need to worry about creating /boot /home / because it won't cause deployment tools to be a problem17:01
ikoniapinaplejuic: no17:02
pinaplejuicno i don't.17:02
ikoniayou don't what ?17:02
pinaplejuicI don't have to worry17:02
pinaplejuicright?17:02
ikoniacorrect, that's fine17:02
oerheksjust make a ntfs partition, standard supported in u̶b̶u̶n̶t̶u̶ redhat17:02
pinaplejuicAnd the ability to access my files when using the other OS via the /win partition?17:03
ikoniapinaplejuic: you're using ubuntu righ t?17:03
ikoniaas that can impact this discussion17:03
ReedK2sorry got DC'ed17:18
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Pinapljuic01:04:2317:18
PinapljuicYes, ubuntu 16.04 (otherwise known as UbuntOH MY GOD i got disconnected!)17:18
Pinapljuic.seen ikonia17:19
Pinapljuicthe mount-point listing in the installer mentions: / /boot /home /tmp /usr /var /srv /opt /usr/local17:20
ducassethat doesn't mean you should have separate filesystems for all of them17:22
ReedK0anyway back to the key question: should I have a separate FS dedicated to17:38
ReedK0sorry I got dc'd at 01:21:0917:38
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PinapljuicDamn, this computer bright is super bright17:39
hggdhPinapljuic: of lod is was common to have different filesystems/partitions for some common top-level directories (like /tmp, /usr, /, /opt, etc)17:42
hggdhnowadays, with very large storage media available, it is less common. We usually only have a separate mount if there is a specific requirement -- like it is SANS, or must be encrypted, or NFS, etc17:43
ikoniahggdh: don't bother17:43
ikoniahggdh: he's ignoring the info and now asking in ##linux17:43
Pinapljuici'm not ignoring info: the info wasn't posted17:45
Pinapljuicikonia is just trolling me.17:45
ikoniawhat info was not given17:45
ikoniano-one is trolling you,hence why I'm asking you for the missing info17:45
ikoniawhat info was not made clear17:46
PinapljuicI'm also checking multiple sources.  Is there an op for ikonia ?  He's trying to form a cult. Isn't there a "one true linux way" rule in this chatroom?17:46
posiHow does one add a package to the ubuntu software boutique18:05
ikoniaposi: there is a submission guide on the wiki, I'll see if I can find it18:07
ikoniaposi: what package are you thinking ?18:07
posithe brave browser18:07
posiikonia: does it have to be a .deb already18:08
posierr18:08
posiwe create crappy debs with fpm18:08
posias it's an electron app18:08
ikoniaposi: so I'd say this is something you should look at maybe the universe repo18:09
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ikoniaposi: have you looked at the motu process ?18:09
posiwhere's that18:09
posinope18:09
ikonia!mout18:09
ikoniaoops18:09
ikonia!motu18:09
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU18:09
oerheksthere is a --beta snap package .. sudo snap install brave --beta18:10
oerheksbrave (beta) v0.18.36dev18:10
posiok so get it added to the universe18:10
oerhekshttps://github.com/snapcrafters/brave18:11
posioerheks: Yea that's very true. I am getting reports that it's not working.18:11
posibtw18:11
posiWe are about to release our own snaps based on there work soon18:11
oerheksworks here, 17.0418:11
posiJust got this ticket18:13
posi```18:13
posiI now installed brave from snap on Ubuntu 17.10 and it won’t start when I press it :sweat_smile: Linux and Brave is a whole world of problems :sweat_smile:18:13
posi```18:13
oerheksoh, 17.10 .. not out yet, wait for the 19th this month18:13
posiAnyway, i am getting more and more feedback that we should be making our own snaps18:13
posihappy if you wanna join are group as the official person18:13
posibut we'd want to fully audit the machines they are built on18:13
oerheksposi, join #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 support, maybe someone likes to test this out. it works on 17.04 zesty, so i wonder why not on 17.1018:16
ra21vii have ubuntu 16.04 on Dell 7559.. I got update notification, installed it.. it contained some kernel updates.. after that its not booting.. I was getting restart loop because partition was not found. made few changes in bios for uefi/legacy settings, now I am getting grub rescue which is complaining normal.mod is not found in some /boot/grub/i386 directory.. please help18:17
ra21vii dont see any i386 named directory in /boot/grub, rather there is x86_64-efi directory which has normal.mod but it does not load18:18
posioerheks: sure18:18
posioerheks: thanks18:19
ra21viis there anyway to fix it without reinstalling everything from fresh18:19
ducasseposi: several people have reported problems with electron snaps on 17.10, so that doesn't surprise me. i avoid electron myself, so i haven't really tested it.18:19
ducassera21vi: don't change from uefi to legacy or vice versa after install - change back18:21
ra21viducasse: i dont remember what was set previously.. after upgrade and reboot, it was in loop where dell utility used to load for diagnostics and no way I can get grub.. so I changed it.. later tried every possible combination but it does not load it.. only loading legacy gives me grub rescue shell at least18:23
ra21viducasse: if there is no i386 directory in /boot/grub.. and there is x86-64-efi directory, does it mean previously it was booted in efi only mode ?18:24
ducassera21vi: do you have an efi partition?18:25
posiducasse: can't blame u18:25
ra21viducasse: i am not sure.. in grub rescue, ls shows 3 paritions, and hd0,msdos2 has linux data18:27
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ra21vifrom grub rescue, is there a way to find efi partition?18:35
alkisgra21vi: boot from a live cd so that you can give more info, like "sudo lsblk --fs" etc18:35
alkisgefi is vfat, linux is ext418:35
ra21vialkisg: ok18:35
ra21viright now, I dont have live disk.. cannt burn one as system not working.. i will try to get one for troubleshooting18:36
Kanovis there some image viewer which functions somewhat like a PDF viewer? that is, images are continuous and the zoom level remains the same across photos18:41
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Kanovin any normal image viewer, if I zoom in by a certain amount in some spot and go onto the next image, this zoom disappears18:42
Kanovdoes anything like this even exist18:42
oerheksKanov, not that i know of..18:43
ducasseas they will be different files with (potentially) different resolutions, probably not18:43
Kanovducasse: the files are of a very similar resolution18:43
Kanovactually, the images differ not very much in length/width/height, they are a bunch of images of book pages18:44
ducasseyes, but that's a specific enough case that i think you'd need to script something with imagemagick or similar18:45
Kanovsurely an image viewer of this sort exists18:45
Kanovducasse: "feh" does exactly what i need but the problem is that it's not continuous, and it's a text based image viewer18:45
Kanovfeh -g does the thing, and then you can set in a setting to keep the zoom level across photos18:46
oerheksmaybe gthumb? last answer.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/90158/is-there-an-image-viewer-that-will-save-zoom-settings-across-images-folders-or-u18:46
Kanovsurely an image viewer exists somewhere of this sort, ducasse, your imagemagick suggestion may be too overkill and misinformed18:46
Kanovfeh was exactly like this and it surpassed you18:47
ducassenobody knows every option of every image viewer out there :)18:47
Kanovthe problem is that I have many image sets which are of different books, and I can't compile them all into a PDF, for various reasons18:48
Kanovim trying to look for a way to comfortably read the books through an image viewer, as if it was a PDF18:48
oerheksKanov, put your question on askubuntu?18:50
oerheksmake sure you give all details, not like you did here, as you knew some options already18:51
ducassemost image viewers aren't intended for reading books, funnily enough, but if feh works then you have your answer18:55
oerheksor in ##linux, grinn18:57
ber532kKanov: why can't you compile them to PDF?18:59
alkisgKanov: I haven't read all that you said, but there are various comics reads out there with a lot of viewing options, that might suit your needs.18:59
alkisg*comics viewers, sorry18:59
Kanovalkisg: what is one such comic viewer you have in mind18:59
alkisgE.g. comix18:59
Kanovalkisg: does it have the ability to show images continuously and can zoom position remain the same throughout all images?19:00
alkisgKanov: I haven't used it in a while, but I think so19:02
alkisgKanov: https://linuxaria.com/recensioni/comic-book-viewers-for-linux for other options19:05
swenssonCan I remove mysql complety? so I can reinstall it? Can't remember the password and I can't reset it... It's nothing important on the db19:08
oerheksswensson, sure, stop the service, remove it with -purge, and make sure the database is wiped too, else you end up with the same issue19:09
oerhekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/640899/how-do-i-uninstall-mysql-completely19:10
swenssonoerheks Okey thanks, I'll try that!19:11
swenssonoerheks Worked ! =) Thanks a lot for the help =D19:16
oerheksswensson, have fun!19:17
Kanovhow the hell do you zoom in, alkisg19:22
MohaAhmHello19:23
MohaAhmI need help with slow boot problem19:24
MohaAhmAnyone here?19:24
MohaAhmHi19:24
tomreynMohaAhm: roughly 1000 people19:24
MohaAhmHaha19:25
MohaAhmMy home is not encrypted19:25
MohaAhmAnd I am still having a slow boot time19:25
MohaAhmapprox 2 minutes19:25
ioriaMohaAhm, systemd-analyze blame19:25
MohaAhmI have posted on askubuntu19:26
MohaAhmOk19:26
ioriaMohaAhm, if you are on xenial and on19:26
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MohaAhmI will post on pastebin19:26
MohaAhm17.0419:26
ioriaok19:26
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/9qKhB4bq19:27
MohaAhmthe sda service is taking a whole minute alone19:28
MohaAhmI have checked to see if home is encrypted19:29
MohaAhmusing19:29
MohaAhmhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/172618/is-my-home-folder-encrypted19:29
MohaAhmbut there is no .ecryptfs19:29
oerheksso what is on that sda5 ?19:29
MohaAhmit is where linux resides, I think19:30
ioriaMohaAhm, you don't know if your home is encrypted ?19:30
MohaAhmIt is not encrypted19:30
MohaAhmaccording to19:30
MohaAhmls -A /home19:30
pavloslsblk -f19:31
MohaAhmloop0  squashf                                                      /snap/core/3 loop1  squashf                                                      /snap/core/2 loop2  squashf                                                      /snap/atom/3 loop3  squashf                                                      /snap/core/2 loop4  squashf                                                      /snap/atom/3 loop5  squashf19:31
MohaAhmsorry19:31
oerheks!paste19:32
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:32
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/P61tJvvL19:32
ioriaMohaAhm, nice19:33
MohaAhmWhat is nice?19:33
MohaAhm:)19:33
oerheksfsck /dev/sda5 from a live iso, to see if it contains problems19:34
ioriaMohaAhm, i'd compare    sudo blkid and fstab, for starter19:35
MohaAhm\/etc/fstab19:36
MohaAhm?19:36
ioriaMohaAhm, you got a swap partition; zesty uses swap file19:36
MohaAhmOk19:36
MohaAhmI tried to create a swap file19:36
ioriaMohaAhm, why ?19:37
MohaAhmbut it didn't persist after reboot19:37
ioriareally ?19:37
ntdswap file? really? that must play well on COW fs19:37
MohaAhmI thought it might clear the problem19:37
MohaAhmrunning /proc/swaps19:37
MohaAhmreturned nothing after reboot19:37
MohaAhmso I think the swap file didn't persist19:38
MohaAhmor am I wrong?19:38
alkisgMohaAhm: pastebin your /etc/fstab19:38
MohaAhmOk19:38
ber532kMohaAhm: maybe also `lsblk -f`19:39
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/J11BPghR19:39
MohaAhmthis is the output of /etc/fstab19:39
MohaAhmbut I must tell you that I have only just now commented the last line that indicates the swap partition19:40
ioriaMohaAhm,   ls /swapfile   ?19:40
MohaAhmok19:40
alkisgSeems ok, and the output of `dmesg` ? E.g. dmesg | nc termbin.com 999919:40
MohaAhmioria: /swapfile19:40
ioriaMohaAhm,   sudo file  /swapfile19:41
alkisgMohaAhm: ah, the last line has syntax errors, if you have just commented it out, try rebooting now19:41
alkisgThere's no "type swap" etc there19:41
ber532kAohaAhm: Did you reboot after commenting out swap?19:41
ber532k^^ MohaAhm19:41
ber532kdid it help?19:42
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/6bVYEpC319:42
MohaAhmberk532: https://pastebin.com/P61tJvvL19:42
ioriaMohaAhm,   ok, you sw part had no mount point ;  the swapfile is UUID=a62eb5b1-08ea-43a9-8b4f-8553cdefcf4b19:42
oerheks2 failures, you are not on 17.04, and you didn't add a swap partition, as sda6 was already there from installation..19:43
ioriaMohaAhm,   youcan confirm with sudo blkid19:43
MohaAhmI am on 17.0419:43
MohaAhm!!!!19:43
ioriasy, told a stupid thing19:44
MohaAhmioria: what do you need me to confirm?19:44
ioriaMohaAhm,   the uid of the swapfile19:44
MohaAhmioria: it doesn't show up using sudo blkid19:45
MohaAhmno entry for swapfile there19:46
MohaAhmthere is an entry for sda619:46
ioriaMohaAhm,   i mean that swap partition has this syntax : UUID=bla     none            swap    sw              0       019:46
MohaAhmUUID19:47
MohaAhmd4df51a1-e991-47ea-920b-02502d4f722619:47
ioriaMohaAhm,   not enough :þ19:47
ioriaMohaAhm,   now that is commented, try to reboot19:47
MohaAhmwill reboot and get back to you19:48
MohaAhmthanks for now, to all of you19:48
oerheksswapon --show19:48
MohaAhmoerheks: returns nothing19:49
ioriaMohaAhm,   your fstab line foe swap is wrong19:49
ioria*for19:49
MohaAhmioria: do I reboot or fix the last line?19:50
ioriaMohaAhm,   reboot19:50
oerheksfor a swap file, this answer should work https://askubuntu.com/a/904632 ( end part)19:50
MohaAhmoerheks: I have already tried this yesterday19:51
MohaAhmPerhaps I did it wrong.19:51
MohaAhm:)19:51
MohaAhmI will reboot and get back to you19:51
RonaldsMazitisI can't delete file using sudo19:56
RonaldsMazitiswhat can I do19:56
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: what is the command you are using exactly19:56
RonaldsMazitissudo rm -f filename19:57
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: what file system is the file on19:57
RonaldsMazitisusb drive19:58
ikoniano, what file system19:58
ikonianot device19:58
RonaldsMazitisI don't know19:58
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: I'll guess, is the usb being moved from a windows computer19:59
RonaldsMazitisno19:59
ikoniafrom what19:59
RonaldsMazitisubuntu19:59
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: please run "touch file"20:00
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: as in "touch testfile"20:00
ikoniadoes that work ?20:00
MohaAhmHello again20:00
MohaAhmstill slow boot20:00
RonaldsMazitisnothing happens20:00
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: does the file get created ?20:01
ikonia(as in is there a file called testfile)20:01
MohaAhmhi20:01
pavlosMohaAhm: is the analyze-blame still spending time on sda520:01
MohaAhmpavlos20:01
MohaAhmmore20:01
RonaldsMazitistouch: cannot touch 'file': Read-only file system20:02
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: there is your answer20:02
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/r2nAr9Tr20:02
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: although why did you not get that message the first time20:02
RonaldsMazitisbut how it became read only20:02
MohaAhmAfter reboot20:02
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: no idea20:03
RonaldsMazitiscan I change permissions?20:03
RonaldsMazitisI tried to change but did not work20:03
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: it's READ ONLY20:03
ikoniaRonaldsMazitis: that means you can't change anything20:03
oerheksread only happens when the filesystem is corrupt/shutdown ugly20:03
RonaldsMazitiscan I wipe the usb drive20:03
MohaAhm...20:04
MohaAhmhi20:05
JohnnyDoedHi all. I've installed Lubuntu without a problem, now I'm trying to install Ubuntu but for some reason my HDD is not recognised during install. Anyone experienced something similar? Googled it, said disable fast boot which I did, no difference. Strange how installation of Lubuntu can find the HDD but not Ubuntu.20:05
pavlosMohaAhm: do you have a /etc/crypttab file?20:05
MohaAhmno20:05
MohaAhmempty20:05
MohaAhm# <target name><source device><key file><options>20:06
MohaAhmThis is the only line in it20:06
RonaldsMazitis/media/ronalds/SP UFD U220:07
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RonaldsMazitisis the name of usb20:07
RonaldsMazitishow can I change read only now20:07
alkisgMohaAhm: what's the output of `dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999` ?20:07
alkisgJohnnyDoed: what's the output of `sudo lsblk --fs`?20:08
MohaAhmhttp://termbin.com/mfnao20:08
JohnnyDoedalkisg: I'll check20:08
Bashing-omJohnnyDoed: Number of questions. What method are you using to install - "install along side" ?, what is the present partitioning ? pastebin from the liveDVD(USB) ' sudo parted -l ';  EFI system and are you matching the new install with what lubuntu was installed as ?20:11
RonaldsMazitisikonia: this did not work sudo mount -o remount,rw '/media/ronalds/SP UFD U2'20:12
JohnnyDoedBashing-om: My goal is to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu server edition over the present one. Present partioning is the basic option when doing guided Lubuntu, nothing fancy. Not sure about the last two questions, sorry.20:13
oerheksspaces in names...20:13
MohaAhmI guess I will wait a few days and then make a fresh install20:15
JohnnyDoedalkisg: Sorry for the late response, the shell doesn't recognize the commands, it's fairly limited. Uploading pictures...20:15
pavlosMohaAhm: what does swapon -s say?20:16
MohaAhmit returns nothing20:16
alkisgMohaAhm: your dmesg indeed says sda5 needs 44 secs to load... but I can't imagine why20:17
black_13how do you know how much memory is use by my ubuntu vbox memory20:17
RonaldsMazitisikonia this might be working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4lAlb74mGs20:17
alkisgJohnnyDoed: maybe it recognizes blkid20:17
pavlosMohaAhm: iirc, sda6 is commented out in fstab20:19
JohnnyDoedalkisg: yes it did20:19
MohaAhmIt was not commented20:21
RonaldsMazitiswell it worked I'm just shocked file system can get read only accidentially20:21
MohaAhmand the problem was there also20:21
JohnnyDoedalkisg: Blkid: https://imgur.com/a/80ZRL20:21
alkisgJohnnyDoed: so, it recognizes the partitions... where's the issue?20:22
JohnnyDoedalkisg: During install: https://imgur.com/a/8oywL20:22
pavlosMohaAhm: can you pastebin the fstab again?20:23
JohnnyDoedOnly option is the USB which I'm using to boot with20:23
MohaAhmOk20:23
MohaAhmBut I have deleted the comment symbol20:24
cristian_chello20:24
MohaAhmhttps://pastebin.com/x8MwUdV020:25
cristian_cwhen I use mozplugger opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead20:25
cristian_cHow could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files with this software?20:25
cristian_cAny ideas?20:26
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pavlosMohaAhm: my line is, UUID=0360e16d-c6b5-479f-83cd-0b1926268391 none            swap    sw              0       0    are you missing the rest of the parms?20:26
MohaAhmOk20:26
MohaAhmI have noticed that when browsing questions on askubuntu20:27
MohaAhmdo I put the missing symbols manually?20:27
pavlosMohaAhm: edit fstab via sudo and add them with tabs in between20:27
pavlosMohaAhm: when done, please paste fstab again20:32
MohaAhmOk20:32
MohaAhmhttp://termbin.com/yqn8v20:33
MohaAhmdone20:33
pavlosMohaAhm: looks ok, care to reboot again and report back?20:34
MohaAhmWill do20:34
ChunkzZ!isitoutyet20:38
ubottuYes!20:38
pavlosoct1920:39
ChunkzZOctober 19th?20:40
oerheksmaybe .. but that is the plan, yes20:40
pavlosI assume the Q was when is 17.10 out20:40
MonkeyDusthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule20:41
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MohaAhmnothing has changed20:48
alkisgMohaAhm: if you boot from a live cd/usb, does it boot fast?20:49
pavlosMohaAhm: does swapon -s report /dev/sda6 ... blah-blah20:49
alkisgMohaAhm: also try this: sudo update-initramfs -u; sudo reboot20:49
alkisgBecause the initramfs also keeps a copy from the previous, bad /etc/fstab20:50
MohaAhmalkisg20:50
MohaAhmI will have to make live usb to answer that20:50
alkisg(11:22:45 μμ) JohnnyDoed: alkisg: During install: https://imgur.com/a/8oywL => so, the partitions are there, where's the issue?20:51
JohnnyDoedalkisg, Bashing-om: So sorry, you guys are correct. It found my HDD the whole time. I just got confused that the HDD was only 32GB, thought it was 128 and the USB was 32GB.20:51
JohnnyDoedJust spent 2 hours on nothing :)20:52
alkisg:)20:52
JohnnyDoedThanks for the help though :D20:52
alkisgnp20:52
MohaAhmrunning update-initramfs -u20:52
MohaAhmtakes time20:52
MohaAhmdone20:53
Bashing-omJohnnyDoed: all well that ends well .. sure had me scratching my head !20:53
JohnnyDoedBashing-om: Sorry about that!20:54
MohaAhmpavlos20:54
pavlosMohaAhm: here20:54
MohaAhmit reports /dev/sda620:54
pavlosMohaAhm: good20:54
MohaAhmpartition58572760-120:54
MohaAhmso reboot now?20:55
pavlosMohaAhm: sure, alkisg suggested20:55
Bashing-omJohnnyDoed: Was a good exercise on my part .20:55
black_13how do i uninstall the openjdk and install the oracle jdk20:57
oerheksblack_13, no need to uninstall, install oracle java, run the tool "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select oracle20:59
oerhekssee !java20:59
oerheks!java21:00
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:00
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oerheksyou might want to uninstall openjdk*21:00
oerheks( tip: install synaptic for a detailed softwarecenter )21:01
adrian_1908JohnnyDoed: I once had something similar happen. My cheap Chromebook only has 16GB HDD and I used a 16GB USB stick for the bootable image, that had me looking for something that was already there :)21:04
adrian_1908*16GB SSD I meant21:04
linuxlovehey guys21:18
linuxlovei am going to run an exe file in my ubuntu with wine21:19
oerhekslinuxlove, join #winehq for application help21:19
oerheks!wine21:19
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu21:19
oerheks.. as we don't21:19
MohaAhmIt didn't work21:21
MohaAhmStill slow boot21:21
delinquentmeI have a windows 8 computer that I would like to dual-boot with both windows 8 and ubuntu 16 ... using GRUB as the bootloader.  But windows 8 has decided to take over the bootloader.  I would like to un-screw this windows "fix"... and restore GRUB as the primary bootloader.  Whats the easiest way to do this?21:21
V7Hey all ;)21:21
pavlosMohaAhm: and systemd-analyze blame says sda5 takes over 1 min21:21
V7I have this: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. at random time21:22
MohaAhmyes21:22
Bashing-om!grub | delinquentme21:22
ubottudelinquentme: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:22
pavlosMohaAhm: maybe alkisg has some ideas ...21:22
delinquentmeyayaya Bashing-om Thankyou21:22
MohaAhmpavlos21:23
MohaAhmActually nno21:23
MohaAhmno21:23
pavlosMohaAhm: do tell ...21:23
MohaAhmThe sda entry is completely gone21:23
MohaAhmfrom output of blame21:23
MohaAhm!21:23
pavlosMohaAhm: paste the blame output21:23
V7So anyone ?21:24
MohaAhmOk21:24
V7Just after RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. no wifi21:24
V7It just appears and WiFi card just disables21:24
Bashing-omdelinquentme: :) . Here we are to help, in the case of need .21:25
MohaAhmhttp://termbin.com/hhbh21:25
pavlosMohaAhm: systemd-analyze gives you one line, summary. Can you paste that?21:26
pavlosMohaAhm: like, Startup finished in 5.031s (kernel) + 1min 6.402s (userspace) = 1min 11.433s21:26
MohaAhmStartup finished in 7.853s (kernel) + 1min 18.027s (userspace) = 1min 25.880s21:26
MohaAhmIs that good?21:27
jeremy31V7 see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108 and show us the pastebin link with results21:27
V7pasteibin ?21:27
pavlosMohaAhm: well, you're 1m 25s, I'm 1m 11s21:27
MohaAhmOk21:29
V7Roger21:29
MohaAhmI will reboot it again to see if I notice any difference21:30
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oerheksjeremy31, don't wait, V7 is just having fun in ##linux21:37
oerheksnow he read this, hahaha21:37
MohaAhmWell21:37
MohaAhmthe sda.service has returned21:38
MohaAhm59 seconds21:38
MohaAhmhttp://termbin.com/cc5u21:38
pavlosMohaAhm: is 59s better than before? cant remember the old pastebin21:41
pavlosMohaAhm: if you create a /forcefsck empty file, upon next reboot it should fsck your system and figure out issues with sda5 (if any)21:46
V7oerheks: ?21:50
V7I'm here, who's jeremy31 ?21:51
V7Oh I see21:51
V7I've already bookmarked this page21:51
V7And I'll upload it after some time21:51
V7Sorry for missspeaking, but thank you very much jeremy31 ;)21:51
oerheksv7 good job, let volunteers wait, and having fun in other channel(s)21:51
Bashing-ompavlos: '/ forcefsck ' still functional in systemd on ubuntu ? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fsck .21:52
V7oerheks: Oh dear ...21:52
V7My fault21:52
jeremy31V7 I am just a Ubuntuforums moderator that specializes in wireless issues21:53
pavlosBashing-om: trying it now ...21:53
jeremy31V7 I may not be chili555 but I think he is on vacation21:54
V7Who's ?21:55
theoremErr:1 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jgeboski/xUbuntu_16.04  purple-facebook 20170916~af391dc~9ff9acf9fa14~13521:55
theorem  404  Not Found [IP: 195.135.221.134 8021:55
V7jeremy31: You mean oerheks ?21:55
theoremthat seems like a weird error, the ip there has port 80 open21:55
dedondestahow is the torrent client with web gui called?21:55
V7deluge21:55
theoremdedondesta: delugew21:55
MonkeyDustdedondesta  deluge21:55
V7Me first !21:55
MonkeyDusttheorem  was faster21:55
V7oh21:55
V7INTERNET WTH ?21:55
theoremfaster and got his name :)21:55
dedondestaweb gui?21:56
MonkeyDustand V7 even more so21:56
dedondestaMonkeyDust: does it support web gui?21:56
theoremyes21:56
V7https://i.imgur.com/yAgjxSJ.png21:56
theoremhas me ahead here21:57
gebbionedo you know how to activate changes to logrotate ?21:57
* theorem shrugs21:57
V7changes ?21:57
gebbionei have set logs to have dates in the name when rotating but it has not changed21:58
dedondestatheorem: is is deluge-web or deluge-webui?21:58
delinquentmeBashing-om the repair seemes to have failed.21:58
delinquentmeor at least thats what it said.21:59
theoremdedondesta: the second21:59
dedondestatheorem: thank you21:59
gebbionedateext21:59
oerheksdedondesta, transmission has a web gui too, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo#Web_Interface21:59
theoremwait ..21:59
theoremwhat are you trying to do ?21:59
theoremyou want the exec ?21:59
pavlosBashing-om: seems systemd handles it ... thx21:59
dedondestatheorem: i want to use local ip address in a browser and insert torrents via web21:59
dedondestatheorem: so that "remote" box downloads torrent22:00
dedondestatheorem: deluge-webui is the way to go?22:00
theoremsudo systemctl status deluge-web.service22:00
theoremwithout the ui22:00
dedondestaoerheks: should i use transmission over deluge ?22:01
oerheksdedondesta, deluge is maybe a better choise, transmission is already available. all you need is to enable web in settings22:01
dedondestacerion: i'm on ubuntu server, do i need to add ppa to install deluge?22:02
oerheks!info deluge22:03
ubottudeluge (source: deluge): bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.13+git20161130.48cedf63-2ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 20 kB, installed size 81 kB22:03
V7!info transmission22:03
ubottutransmission (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.92-2ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB22:03
V7So 20 and 122:03
peterppHi, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and my boot partition filled up because there are lots of old old kernel images22:04
theoremsudo apt autoremove22:05
V7peterpp: sudo apt autoremove ?22:05
V7OH DEAR22:05
theoremhaha22:05
peterppI tried to remove the old images but somehow never seem to get past the "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:" which does nothing because of a conflict apparently22:05
* V7 highfives theorem22:05
peterppV7, autoremove doesn't seem to do anything22:05
* theorem offers a low-five to V722:05
theoremTOO SLOW !22:05
theorem;-)22:05
peterppwhen I run autoremove I get: "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these."22:06
V7I was thinking about peterpp not fair enough )))22:06
peterpplinux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic but it is not installed22:06
* V7 receives22:06
V7So what -f install returns ? peterpp22:06
theoremyikes22:07
theoremno force22:07
theoremnot on a kernel22:07
V7+22:07
peterppI actually did try that and nothing changed22:07
theoremspace is empty, last install probably filled it up22:07
theoremwill require removing some old file manually, then rerunning install22:07
V7Try dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge22:08
peterpptried that22:08
peterppnothing22:08
V7echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge22:08
V7?22:08
peterppimagine that, I actually googled before I came here ;-)22:08
V7This one was saved22:08
theoremI suggest manually selecting the oldest kernel22:09
black_13how do i tell if an http server is sitting on port 567422:09
theoremtake a copy of it somewhere, then cat /dev/null > file22:09
theoremblack_13: lsof -n | grep 567422:09
V7HaTo list all kernels: dpkg --list | grep linux-image22:10
V7peterpp: Do you remember what you have done before that ?22:11
V7I mean before you've notcied that you can't remove these kernels ?22:11
black_13theorem: nothing22:11
peterppV7, I was going to remove the version of nodejs from the package manager install node via nvm... and then nothing worked22:12
V7black_13: What server are you running ?22:12
peterpp*to install node via nvm22:12
V7Hm ... I'm trying to get it how this nodejs depends on kernel ...22:12
theoremblack_13: try as root22:13
adrian_1908Isn't the nodejs apt package fairly invasive? Maybe something went wrong there during removal?22:13
black_13its from a software called joshua22:13
V7Joshua Aaron Server ?22:14
black_13https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/tree/master/demo22:15
V7This's apache22:15
V7I don't know about joshua, but try: sudo service apache status22:15
V7or sudo service apache2 status22:16
adrian_1908V7: I don't think so. It's an Apache project, but not related to the webserver from what I can tell.22:17
V7Fair enough22:17
adrian_1908black_13: So does it not work as desired, or why the desire to check if it's listening on that port?22:18
V7He left22:20
peterppI've begun deleting stuff in /boot/ and things seem to look good22:20
V7o.o22:20
V7We hope that you'll be able to restart your machine after that22:20
Bashing-ompeterpp: How are you deleting ? I hope not behind the package manager's back .22:20
peterppthat's exactly what I'm doing22:21
peterppthis was recommended here https://gist.github.com/ipbastola/2760cfc28be62a5ee10036851c65460022:21
adrian_1908Bashing-om: I think we arrived there since nothing else seemed to work for him.22:21
Bashing-ompeterpp: K. a bit of extra effort .. but fixable .22:21
* V7 pokes Package Manager22:21
peterppwhy is the boot patition so small by default?22:22
peterppmy system has several terabytes of disk space perhaps making the boot partition a little larger than 500 mb would have been worth it22:23
V7Why it needs to be big ?22:23
peterppwell22:23
peterppbecause old kernel images seem to pile up22:24
peterppand are not automatically removed22:24
V7^ something was worng. This's not a usual sistuation22:25
frostschutzpeterpp, apt-get autoremove --purge (or similar) should take care of old kernels, w/o manually choosing which to delete22:25
peterppit actually happened on my coworkers computer at work some weeks ago22:25
peterpp"depmod: FATAL: could not load /boot/System.map-4.4.0-64-generic: No such file or directory22:26
peterpp"22:26
peterppthis is apt noticing that something's missing22:27
V7pathetic22:27
V7peterpp: You got this now ?22:27
peterppwhat do you mean?22:27
peterppI copied this line from the terminal if that's your question22:27
frostschutzyou should fix that unless you want it to come back and haunt you22:28
peterppbut apt continues unabashed22:28
peterpphow would I fix it?22:28
frostschutzwhich kernel are you currently on? (uname -a)22:28
peterpp4.4.0-9222:29
peterppeverything seems to work well enough for the time being, thanks everybody22:30
V7peterpp: Try to reboot22:31
peterppno22:31
V7TrY To REBooT !22:32
peterppit's a server that's been running for a year22:32
V7oh dear22:33
V7Have you removed all of this remotly ?22:33
peterppmaybe I can just keep it running ;-)22:33
frostschutzpeterpp, you could try like apt-get install --reinstall linux-image{,-extra}-4.4.0-64-generic and then uninstall it afterwards22:33
peterppyes22:33
peterppfrostschutz, ah I'll try that, thanks22:33
V7Oh dear ... I saw it ... I saw that someone was removing kernels on server remotly22:33
Bashing-ompeterpp: insurance: what shows ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' Now what needs fixing ?22:34
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peterppBashing-om, it doesn't report any errors if that's what you're asking?22:35
V7peterpp: Have you done dist-upgrade ?22:36
Bashing-ompeterpp: Yeah .. no errors .. good deal :)22:36
peterppV7, it's not as dramatic... I have backups of everything and could just reset the image in the event that it doesn't boot22:36
V7Yeah, but ... risky btw22:36
peterppV7, no, no dist upgrade22:36
V7peterpp: Try yo22:36
peterppV7, I won't yo22:38
V7yo yo ?22:38
V7Btw it's hardly recommended for dist-upgrade, but you have a choice22:39
Bashing-om!dist-upgrade | peterpp22:39
ubottupeterpp: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.22:39
peterppah22:39
delinquentmeOk Cool so I just followed the guide at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and my system is messed up in a new way.22:47
delinquentmeI want to run Windows 8 and ubuntu 16 ... with GRUB as the single boot manager, Ubuntu 16 as a default operating system... and grub with no mention of anything realted to "windows UEFI"22:48
delinquentmeI want two options on GRB bootup: Ubuntu ( as the default ) and Window.22:48
oerheks!uefi22:49
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:49
Bashing-omdelinquentme: Are both win8 and ubuntu installed in EFI mode ? // What can you boot to at this time ?22:50
delinquentmeI dont know what "in EFI mode" entails.  I know that windows 8 was the default OS ... I had installed 16.04 over top ... and windows "repaired" the boot manager.22:51
delinquentmeI ran the boot repair tool and it said it encountered an error. I have the logs from all of that22:51
delinquentmebut now I think I am only able to boot into windows... but im verifying.  Also GRUB has a number of new entries 3 of which begin with "EFI/"22:53
V7What do you have enabled in BIOS settings (Boot section)23:19
V7Do you have there Legacy or what ?23:20
delinquentmecool so now my live boot usb doesnt work.23:53
Bashing-omdelinquentme: Ouch ; verify how/what you are booting in the firmware (bios) settings .23:54

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