[00:07] <d_ven0m> Thanks a lot for all your help guys
[00:07] <d_ven0m> xar-:
[00:07] <d_ven0m> Aginor:
[00:54] <bosma> Anyone help on the systemd --user commands not working?
[01:04] <bcowan> upgradable and upgradeable get me every time
[01:54] <jamisnemo> tgm4883, best I can find is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1710768
[01:55] <jamisnemo> It's not package specific. And sometimes re-running the exact same command gets it to work just fine
[01:55] <jamisnemo> It's difficult to replicate unfortunately.
[02:03] <hanasaki> hello all.... interpretations of what is going on?  "sshd[28094]: Did not receive identification string from 2.9.205.217 port 47457"   SSHD is not running on that port
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: did you nmap yourself if your service is running actually?
[02:05] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  nope
[02:05] <hanasaki> there are a lot of entries like that in auth.log on diff IP and ports
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: can you try an nmap -PN -sV your-ip-here ?
[02:06] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  what do those flags do
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: ping and service detection
[02:07] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  may I priv msg you for a minute?
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: better stay public mate
[02:08] <hanasaki> ok
[02:08] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  would you try to ssh to my IP on that port? 47457 ?
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: other volunteers might join your issue & help out :p
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: perhaps the #openssh channel might be more for your case?
[02:09] <hanasaki> perhaps.. lotuspsychje thanks... but trying to find out why sshd is reporting this if its not running on that port
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: the logical reason would be what it says, its not running actually?
[02:12] <hanasaki> sshd -D is running lotuspsychje / on port tcp 22 / if I try to ssh to the box on 47457 it times out
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: firewall/router can block?
[02:13] <hggdh> hanasaki: this is the source port. Somebody on port 47557 hit you on your SSH port
[02:13] <hggdh> (prolly a bot on scan)
[02:13] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  they are hanging off the same hub on diff wires.    also fails on localhost that port
[02:14] <hanasaki> is the port in the authlog the src or dst?
[02:15] <hggdh> source
[02:15] <hanasaki> hggdh:  thanks! bingo
[02:15] <hanasaki> thought it was dst
[02:16] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  or hggdh ONLY - are either of you able to connect with an ssh client on 22?
[02:17] <hggdh> hanasaki: what do you mean? Connect to a SSH server listening on port 22, or connect to an SSH server while have a source port=22?
[02:17] <pijama_boy> Hey guys, newbie here, finished my ubuntu 16.04 install yesterday, is this the right place to look for help?
[02:17] <hanasaki> your src = tcp ANY / server = your DST = my IP on tcp 22
[02:18] <bcowan> pijama_boy: yes
[02:18] <hanasaki> pijama_boy: just ask
[02:18] <hggdh> hanasaki: probably yes. But what do you expect to see?
[02:18] <hanasaki> want you to confirm if 22 is open or not
[02:19] <hggdh> hanasaki: he easiest way is sudo netstat -natp | grep 22
[02:20] <pijama_boy> I'm having heavy v-sync problems in desktop, youtube, firefox scrolling etc, I tried switching around proprietary nvidia 375, 340 drivers and to free x.org x server but it didn't help
[02:20] <hanasaki> hggdh:  I don't have a box outside the firewall to test with... thus asking you
[02:21] <pijama_boy> I'm on a laptop, if I select my intel card via prima profiles in nvidia x server the problem goes away
[02:21] <pijama_boy> but then I can't use my nvidia gpu
[02:22] <pijama_boy> My card is a gm108m / geforce 840m
[02:22] <hanasaki> hggdh:  what is the -a in nmap?
[02:25] <hggdh> hanasaki: no addres2host resolution
[02:26] <plongshot> Am I missing anything? If I want to install the latest version of eclipse on ubuntu - by downloading the package from the eclipse site and proceeding from there - is there anything more than decompressing the package and making sure there is a ( properly configured ) .dedktop file in /usr/share/application ?
[02:27] <plongshot> ^ will those steps result in the icon showing up in search and the application launching  ( assuming no errors on eclipse side ) ?
[02:28] <bazhang> plongshot, what version did you get from the external sources
[02:28] <bazhang> plongshot, and what version of ubuntu are you currently using
[02:30] <plongshot> bazhang: If I tell you that you won't talk to me anymore, and you'll yell at me  :p
[02:31] <plongshot> It's past version 15 ( how about that? )
[02:31] <bazhang> plongshot, not really, eclipxe in the repos is usally way out of date
[02:31] <bazhang> repos
[02:31] <plongshot> bazhang: pretty much
[02:31] <plongshot> I'm on 16.04
[02:31] <plongshot> DOH!
[02:32] <bazhang> plongshot, eclips version 15?
[02:32] <plongshot> ubuntu version
[02:32] <bazhang> right
[02:32] <plongshot> eclipse version is "oxygen"
[02:32] <bazhang> whats the eclipse
[02:32] <bazhang> got a software number id?
[02:32] <plongshot> bazhang: I'll find out - hang on
[02:33] <bazhang> ok
[02:35] <plongshot> bazhang: I thik it's eclipse 4.7 ( oxygen )
[02:35] <bazhang> thanks plongshot
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: so is it running or not?
[02:39] <hanasaki> lotuspsychje:  yes.
[02:39] <plongshot> bazhang: for what?
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> hanasaki: did you nmap your external ip yet?
[02:40] <bazhang> plongshot, the version number, looking an answer to your issue
[02:40] <Bashing-om> pijama_boy: OK, I take a sjt at it ,, what is ALL is presntly installed . pastebin the outputs of ' sudo lshw -C display ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' . See where we go from here .
[02:40] <Bashing-om> shot*
[02:40] <plongshot> bazhang: oh. Thanks
[02:41] <plongshot> bazhang: Imna give it a shot ( what I think works ). If something messes up I can always backtrack and get back to square one
[02:42] <bazhang> yep
[02:43] <plongshot> bazhang: I can launch eclipse but no .desktop yet. Need to find an example to mod I guess
[02:44] <plongshot> ^ I'm just unsure if there is more than that to this process
[02:44] <plongshot> I have an idea
[02:47] <[n0mad]> be sure that the .desktop doesn't actually exist because i've seen them exist but it not show in the DE until a reboot
[02:47] <plongshot> I wonder what the " Keywords=a " feild is for in the .desktop file? Anyone know if this is what the desktop search can find for that application?
[02:48] <plongshot> eg: whatever keywords are there is the boundary of the desktop search fo that application?
[02:49] <glitchd_> im looking for something like a desktop network indicator that will tell or show me if my server is on or off
[02:50] <glitchd_> server=second machine that i have nicknamed server lol
[02:50] <plongshot> glitchd_: What do you mean? Like a widget that displays on the desktop / gui ?
[02:52] <kode54> wtf
[02:52] <kode54> I moved to a new server with 16.04
[02:52] <kode54> and now it suddenly claims it requires a reboot for updated 'linux-base' just for purging old kernels
[02:53] <glitchd_> plongshot, yea, or an indicator app that can monitor the servers ip
[02:53] <glitchd_> im just spit balling trying to figure out what there is
[02:53] <glitchd_> or what i can do
[02:53] <plongshot> Are there flags for the exec command? I noticed in some of the .desktop files that the exec field ends with a . What is that? I looked at man exec and didn't see anything like it.
[02:54] <plongshot> ^ "  " sorry
[02:55] <plongshot> glitchd_: are you using network manger? ( I think it's the default - or was in 16.04 - what I run )
[02:55] <glitchd_> plongshot, yea i do believe so
[02:57] <plongshot> glitchd_: Does this ' look ' like the sort of thing you mean? https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntufree.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F11%2FScreenlets-For-Ubuntu-Screenshot.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntufree.com%2Ftop-5-system-monitoring-apps-with-gui-for-ubuntu-14-04-and-14-10%2F&docid=0K2KMKOI2x8jCM&tbnid=H0Rh-giERZYyrM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjVg_baju_WAhUh7YMKHQggCZ4QMwhUKCMwIw..i&w=1000&h=550&client=opera&bih=433&biw=858&
[02:57] <plongshot> q=network%20manager%20widget%20indicator%20for%20ubuntu&ved=0ahUKEwjVg_baju_WAhUh7YMKHQggCZ4QMwhUKCMwIw&iact=mrc&uact=8
[02:58] <plongshot> wow - didn't know it was that long
[02:58] <plongshot> woops!
[02:59] <plongshot> glitchd_: there are these : https://www.tecmint.com/screenlets-an-amazing-tool-to-add-desktop-gadgetswidgets-in-linux/
[02:59] <plongshot> And there's this other thing' but, for the life of me, I can't recall the name
[03:02] <glitchd_> sry
[03:02] <glitchd_> it looks like this
[03:02] <glitchd_> https://imgur.com/a/Ftcrb
[03:04] <glitchd_> yea i dont think any of those screenlets are what im looking for
[03:06] <glitchd_> eh fuck it, ill figure it out later
[03:06] <glitchd_> thx bud, adios
[03:12] <plongshot> gli
[03:13] <plongshot> cool
[03:13] <plongshot> sorry glitchd
[03:13] <plongshot> computer crashed
[03:19] <plongshot> I'm seeing all these .desktop files where the Exec line ends in "  " What does it mean?
[03:20] <plongshot> percent U
[03:20] <plongshot> can't type it into the irc
[03:37] <unknown-os> ls -la
[03:37] <unknown-os> sorry:)
[03:40] <plongshot> What is the right way to make a exec path? Do I make a link from somewhere  ( /bin or /usr/bin ) or something?
[03:55] <donavan01> can you use wubi to install ubuntu on an SD card I have a mini PCI express to microSD card adpater in my system and it would be really handy to have a linux installation on one of them for utility useage ... not really worried about it being super fast as I mainly need it for things like disk utility for usb devices and such
[04:04] <Firefishe> I'm on Xenial.  I'm getting some repository error messages, and would like to ask for some help deciphering them, please.  Here's my paste output from Terminal:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25736154/
[04:05] <Firefishe> Also, what is the command line syntax for pulling in all extant repository keys?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: we dont support ppa's here mate
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: recommended to purge them properly, so you have a clean ubuntu system
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Firefishe
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> donavan01: wubi isnt reccomended anymore
[04:19] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: It's been a while since I've used ubuntu.  Where is the repository index main file?
[04:20] <Firefishe> !repos | Firefishe
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Firefishe
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !usb | donavan01 can this help?
[05:54] <donavan01> if I run ubuntu as a virtual machine will I be able to use programs like gpart to mess with the partitions of usb and microsd flash memory or will it only see the logical drives created in the virtual environment
[06:02] <doug16k> I have to sudo modprobe r8169 every time I reboot to get my nic driver to load. this happened since I broke my compilers (that I've since fixed). how do I fix that?
[06:04] <doug16k> I tried mkinitramfs and update-grub and neither did anything to fix dkms
[06:05] <doug16k> would installing r8168-dkms fix it?
[06:07] <doug16k> ah, it says that it should be purged if the in-kernel r8169 driver works
[06:07] <doug16k> what would stop nic drivers from loading?
[07:00] <ducasse> doug16k: have you added it to /etc/modules? that and running update-initramfs -u should really be enough
[07:01] <ducasse> also check that it's not blacklisted
[07:11] <mboard> hello, I install Ubuntu on laptop with windows 10.  It seem like the installation is complete but whenever I am loading the laptop it only boots Windows and does not give me boot option for Ubuntu.  It is Acer Aspire V3-571.  Anybody can tell me how to make bootloader or grub showing?
[07:14] <akik> mboard: on my acer f5 laptop, i had to go to the bios and add the uefi bootable file there
[07:14] <akik> i don't know if i should say uefi screens
[07:15] <mboard> akik ok...  I will see.  when you are saying add the uefi bootable file I must make a link in there to grub?
[07:16] <mboard> or it is coming up ?
[07:16] <mboard> I am using the laptop now for chatting on here so I cannot test while I am connected
[07:16] <akik> mboard: i have a menu option there so i can browse the efi system partition
[07:16] <mboard> akik ok I am reboot now and see.  Thank you.  I let you know if it work
[07:17] <akik> mboard: did you set the location for grub to be the efi system partition?
[08:06] <danieli_> sub guys
[08:09] <danieli_> looking for some help with setting up samba shares. I shared two folders from ubuntu succesfully and I can access these shares from two different (W10 and Android) but now Im trying to use a third device (android) to access the shares I cant get past the logon. I have only one samba user that Ive been using succesfully so far.
[08:10] <danieli_> this Android that cant access smb shares on my ubuntu, can access shares on Windows so the problem is not on Android.
[08:18] <mboard> I just install Ubuntu on the laptop and I try install Google Chrome.  it said it was installed but I cannot find it :(  How do I access it?
[09:10] <dan__> Hi I have a question about ubuntu repositories, how are packages maintained? For instance, I've notice some ubuntu packages are behind upstream, tomcat is at verison 8.0.x in ubuntu and on version 8.5.x on appache's website. Any reason for that? Same is true for other packages
[09:12] <ducasse> !latest
[09:13] <ducasse> ubuntu is not a rollung release, so packages do not receive newer versions after rellease
[09:14] <ducasse> *rolling
[09:19] <dan__> ducasse: Thanks! Could you tell me how does this compare to OS X and Windows?
[09:19] <Ben64> it's completely different
[09:20] <dan__> ducasse: I mean, Widows packages are always latest version thanks to installers and update mechanisms, or are they not?
[09:20] <Ben64> windows doesn't have a package manager
[09:21] <dan__> Ben64: I know the package manager and installer difference, my question is  are OS X and Windows "rolling"?
[09:21] <Ben64> no, they don't work the same way
[09:22] <dan__> Ben64, and is not a disadvantage not to have the latest version?
[09:22] <ducasse> of course not
[09:22] <Ben64> it's nice to be able to remain stable
[09:22] <ducasse> read what ubottu said above
[09:22] <Ben64> it's why i run LTS versions of ubuntu only
[09:41] <mboard> is there a way I can find out why my laptop can connect to 2.4GHz wifi but even though it show 5.0 it does not connect?
[09:43] <thirdwhl> mboard, what sort of wireless card?
[09:44] <mboard> thirdwhl this?  Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[09:44] <cfhowlett> atheros.  as i suspected
[09:45] <mboard> cfhowlett on win partition it connects but on ubuntu it does not, driver issue?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> eh.  atheros on ubuntu has always been flakey - sorry to say.
[09:46] <mboard> cfhowlett hmm ok
[09:47] <cfhowlett> wish I had better news or actual advice.  ask again in this channel.  someone more patient than I might be more infomred
[09:47] <cfhowlett> informed
[09:47] <mboard> ok thank you anyway :)  I will look online and see if I can find information
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !atheros | mboard
[09:48] <mboard> cfhowlett thank you
[10:49] <Calliope> Hi, I am using ubuntu with encrypted luks on an XFS. there was a power outage. I did xfs_repair and recieved this message https://pastebin.com/sMqLS7DV . How do i replay the log?
[10:49] <arunkumar413> where are the executive files installed in ubuntu
[10:57] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: usually in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin
[10:58] <Calliope> nvm mounting automatically replays the log.
[11:02] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: why do you ask, though?
[11:02] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: wanna try simple launcher
[11:03] <arunkumar413> app
[11:03] <arunkumar413> using pygtk
[11:05] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: i'd rather place that in ~/.local/bin (so within your home directory). ~/.profile should already add this to your PATH so executable binaries should be found there
[11:07] <tomreyn> two reasons: (1) your standard user can write to ~/.local/bin but not the other locations above, (2) you should not place possibly insecure / unreliable executables in system wide directories where any (human or system) user might find / use them.
[11:10] <Cat_BPRM> Hello, i installed nvidia-prime (i use commands by the way, not the ui) and first, every time i restart i have to set prime to nvidia which is annoying and when iboot up steam and i check the system info, it says intel 570 skylake bulls*** can someon tell me how to fix this?
[11:16] <akik> Cat_BPRM: you can run commands in either $HOME/.xsessionrc or under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
[11:17] <Cat_BPRM> I'm more concerne about the other problem... but thanks
[11:27] <arunkumar413> join  ##pygtk
[11:51] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: at where are the app icons placed
[11:58] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> yes
[12:19] <Cat_BPRM> Hello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already)
[12:21] <Bendr> Hello, i run a command in the terminal that outputs an arbitrarily long output and i want to save this for some further analysis, is there a way to effectively do this?
[12:21] <ktechmidas> > output.txt
[12:21] <Bendr> oh that's great, thanks ktechmidas
[12:21] <ktechmidas> :)
[12:22] <ktechmidas> append it to the end of the command, in case I didn't explain well enough
[12:22] <Bendr> well, i was familiar with such command in the past, but it vanished from my brain with time
[12:22] <pabed_> hello guys , this is out put of apt update http://paste.ubuntu.com/25737933/ what happen to it?
[12:24] <Bendr> ktechmidas, sorry, but is it -v for verbal?
[12:24] <rdh> verbose
[12:25] <Bendr> --verbose? like this?
[12:26] <Bendr> idk, i'm appending the output but i can't see it in realtime which is slightly not best
[12:26] <ioria> tee
[12:28] <ioria>  cat myfile  | tee -a  output.txt
[12:30] <lostfile> dont ask me how but i managed to dump my irclogs to a drive
[12:30] <lostfile> well sort of
[12:30] <lostfile> https://www.dyne.org/software/tomb/
[12:31] <Cat_BPRM>  Hello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already) - please ping me, im watching youtube...
[12:33] <lostfile> eh my nvidia never work right so i dont bother playing games
[12:33] <lostfile> unless its quake
[12:33] <lostfile> or quake3
[12:37] <Dreaman> playone
[12:37] <Dreaman> nvidia driver is card
[12:38] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25738010/     lostfile
[12:38] <lostfile> thanks
[12:39] <lostfile> mines a GeForce GTX 760/PCIe/SSE2
[12:40] <Dreaman> same driver
[12:40] <Dreaman> but my is 17.10 beta
[12:40] <Dreaman> ubuntu
[12:40] <Dreaman> new kernel 4.13.6
[12:47] <pingwindyktator> Hello. Weird question. Can someone check for me is bzz utility implicitly installed in Ubuntu?
[12:50] <ioria> pingwindyktator, with bzz, you mean  libzzip-0-13    - read access on ZIP-archives  - ?
[12:50] <pingwindyktator> https://linux.die.net/man/1/bzz <- ioria
[12:51] <alkisg> The program 'bzz' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[12:51] <alkisg> sudo apt install djvulibre-bin
[12:51] <alkisg> So, no
[12:51] <pingwindyktator> okay. thanks a lot!
[12:51] <ioria> pingwindyktator, yeah, that ^
[12:52] <Cat_BPRM> Hello, i have nvidia prime installed and i use command line to change the settings, but when i load a game or steam, they use the intel skylake 520 integrated GPU... how cani fix this? (when i tyep 'sudo prime-select query' it outputs nvidia so thats set already) - please ping me, im watching youtube...
[12:55] <Dreaman> Cat_BPRM  17.04
[12:56] <Dreaman> my is auto
[12:56] <Cat_BPRM> no 16.04
[12:56] <Dreaman> heh
[12:56] <Dreaman> upgread
[12:56] <Cat_BPRM> oh hat reminds me, i cant access system settings
[12:56] <Cat_BPRM> when i press system preferences it doesnt load
[12:57] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/gllss  Cat_BPRM
[12:58] <Dreaman> to old ubuntu
[12:58] <Dreaman> use
[12:58] <Dreaman> lts but
[12:58] <Cat_BPRM> im confused
[12:58] <Dreaman> i am
[12:59] <Dreaman> use this
[12:59] <Cat_BPRM> use what
[12:59] <Dreaman> 17.04 final
[12:59] <Cat_BPRM> okay, how
[12:59] <Cat_BPRM> XD
[12:59] <Dreaman> my is 17.10 beta
[13:00] <Dreaman> 2 weeks is a final
[13:00] <Cat_BPRM> How do i upgrade? i cant access my system preferences
[13:01] <Dreaman> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-04
[13:02] <arunkumar413> how to remove unity and install other desktop UI
[13:03] <arunkumar413> I'm using 16.04. Unity is very slow
[13:03] <Dreaman> upgread
[13:03] <Dreaman> 17.04
[13:04] <Dreaman> old kernel old unity
[13:04] <Dreaman> slow
[13:04] <Dreaman> old gnome
[13:05] <arunkumar413> Dreaman: I want to try with lxde or xfe
[13:05] <arunkumar413> which is better UI?
[13:05] <Dreaman> xubuntu
[13:05] <Dreaman> xfce
[13:06] <alkisg> mate :D
[13:07] <Dreaman> cinnamon
[13:07] <Dreaman> gnome 2 style
[13:08] <arunkumar413> ??
[13:08] <Dreaman> system is
[13:08] <Dreaman> processor ram
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <lostfile> hello blueskaj
[13:10] <arunkumar413> Amd A8
[13:10] <arunkumar413> quad core
[13:10] <arunkumar413> with a dedicated graphic card
[13:10] <BluesKaj> hi lostfile
[13:10] <Dreaman> ram
[13:10] <arunkumar413> 4 GB
[13:10] <Dreaman> clean ubuntu amd 64
[13:10] <lostfile> im using ubuntu 17.10
[13:10] <Dreaman> 17.04
[13:10] <lostfile> it comes with gnome i think
[13:10] <Dreaman> no
[13:11] <arunkumar413> Dreaman: should I upgrade
[13:11] <Dreaman> hybrid
[13:11] <arunkumar413> and see
[13:11] <lostfile> yes
[13:11] <Dreaman> gnome some unity
[13:11] <Dreaman> yes
[13:11] <lostfile> thats what i meant
[13:11] <BluesKaj> 17.10 has gnome by default I think
[13:12] <lostfile> i would recommend that u use the long term support
[13:12] <lostfile> if you want every thing to be stable
[13:12] <Dreaman> is not
[13:12] <BluesKaj> I'm a KDE/Plasma guy
[13:12] <Dreaman> clean gnome
[13:12] <Dreaman> hybrid
[13:13] <arunkumar413> ya that's why I'm using the 16.04 but performance isn't up to the mark
[13:13] <arunkumar413> it freezes sometimes and can't handle even 10 browser tabs
[13:14] <arunkumar413> lemme try with lxde and see
[13:15] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/iouG6  this is 17.10 this moment 4k
[13:15] <BluesKaj> ifmaybe amore ram will help, specially if you have 10 media heavy sites up
[13:16] <BluesKaj> oops maybe more ram
[13:17] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413,^
[13:18] <lostfile> i have 16gb of ram
[13:19] <Dreaman> my is laptop
[13:19] <Dreaman> no pc
[13:19] <lostfile> oh
[13:19] <lostfile> i have a desktop
[13:20] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: now playing 6 youtube videos it occupied 90 % of Ram
[13:20] <lostfile> a asus g20 desktop
[13:20] <Dreaman> and use 16.04
[13:20] <Dreaman> upgread
[13:20] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, yup, that make sense
[13:21] <BluesKaj> makes
[13:21] <arunkumar413> all processors occupying more than 60%
[13:21]  * BluesKaj needs more coffee
[13:21] <Dreaman> 4k video
[13:21]  * lostfile had to much coffee
[13:21] <BluesKaj> memeory or cpu?
[13:22] <arunkumar413> memory 90% and processors more than 60%
[13:22] <Dreaman> swap more
[13:22] <Dreaman> is good ide
[13:22] <Dreaman> 16 gb ram 20 gb swap
[13:22] <arunkumar413> just closed the browser and the memory is  60%
[13:23] <arunkumar413> swap total is 3.5gigs
[13:23] <Dreaman> sudo su
[13:23] <Dreaman> pass
[13:23] <arunkumar413> but it occupied only 5%
[13:23] <Dreaman> apt-get autoclean
[13:23] <Dreaman> apt-get autoremove
[13:23] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, swap should more than your ram
[13:24] <arunkumar413> it should be double than RAM
[13:24] <BluesKaj> be
[13:24] <arunkumar413> but it isn't occupied mich
[13:24] <arunkumar413> much
[13:24] <BluesKaj> 1.5 X
[13:24] <arunkumar413> just 5% is occupied
[13:24] <arunkumar413> should I increase it
[13:25] <BluesKaj> swap like you ram is dynamic
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yes at least 6G
[13:25] <arunkumar413> any command to increase it
[13:26] <BluesKaj> use a partitoner like gparted to resize your swap
[13:28] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/OsWsG   8k video
[13:28] <Dreaman> this is
[13:28] <arunkumar413> mine is a 4GB ram why does system monitor shows only 3.3 gigs
[13:28] <Dreaman> laptop
[13:29] <wook_> mine does the same thing, running the "free" command shows i only have 3.8gb
[13:29] <lostfile> some times the os its self uses ram
[13:29] <lostfile> so if i have 16gib i can only use 15gb
[13:30] <wook_> it's rediculous actually, cuz server apps such as bigbluebutton requires 4gb of RAM and even if u have 4gb it'll repeatedly remind u "hey u don't have the minimum system specs" when u run a "--check" command on it
[13:30] <lostfile> well from my understang of it any ways
[13:31] <lostfile> understanding
[13:31] <oerheks> arunkumar413, maybe your intergrated graphics snoops of your ram too
[13:32] <arunkumar413> okay just installed the gparted but unable to edit the swap partition
[13:32] <lostfile> that could also be the case
[13:32] <arunkumar413> resize option is grayed out
[13:32] <arunkumar413> also there is no mount point for that
[13:32] <Dreaman> i use 1 gb boot  10 gb swap and 88 gb root my sata hdd but laptop i use 10 win ssd 96 gb
[13:32] <Dreaman> dual boot
[13:33] <rdh> arunkumar413, being used, youll have to do it in a livecd
[13:33] <Dreaman> install ubunu in ssd i fly
[13:33] <Dreaman> but not good idea
[13:33] <oerheks> rdh +1 mounted swap, disable swap first ..
[13:33] <BluesKaj> a live media version is required if you are resizing the partition your OS is installed on
[13:33] <rdh> arunkumar413, actually, there is swapoff command.
[13:34] <arunkumar413> rdh: lemme try with swapp off command
[13:34] <arunkumar413> hope system wont crash
[13:34] <oerheks> lolz <arunkumar413>	BluesKaj: now playing 6 youtube videos it occupied 90 % of Ram
[13:38] <Dreaman> arunkumar413  open terminal sudo su pass    apt-get update    apt-dist--upgrade
[13:38] <arunkumar413> there isn't much free space to increase the swap. Have to resize
[13:38] <arunkumar413> the ext partition
[13:39] <oerheks> Dreaman, strange command, does not work on linux
[13:39] <oerheks> don't suggest sudo su..
[13:40] <oerheks> 'sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade' is correct
[13:40] <Dreaman> use old
[13:40] <Dreaman> ubuntu
[13:40] <Dreaman> 16.04
[13:40] <Dreaman> apt only not work
[13:41] <oerheks> Dreaman, yes it does, as of 16.04
[13:42] <obinoob> Hi I wonder if virtualhost config will override apache default server apache2.conf or default.conf config ?
[13:42] <obinoob> I'm having troubles to enable url rewrite throught .haccess and nothing worked till I changed <Directory /var/www/>  AllowOverride none </Directory> to <Directory /var/www/>  AllowOverride all </Directory> ?!?
[13:42] <alkisg> arunkumar413: there's no reason to increase your swap partition size, unless you want to hibernate, in which case it should be > ram size
[13:43] <arunkumar413> https://imagebin.ca/v/3dlE6vPr8lHN
[13:43] <arunkumar413> here is the partition information
[13:43] <arunkumar413> no extra space available
[13:43] <Dreaman> oerheks  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25738365/   i use no problem
[13:43] <alkisg> You won't see any performance difference with increased swap size
[13:44] <arunkumar413> alkisg: okay. I just installed the lxde dekstop. How to switch to it from unity
[13:44] <alkisg> arunkumar413: you logout and the select the lubuntu session in the login manager (lightdm)
[13:45] <Dreaman> arunkumar413  your pc is not low why us lxde or xfce
[13:45] <alkisg> Yeah there's no reason to use lxde
[13:45] <arunkumar413> Dreaman: it's very slow
[13:45] <alkisg> What's your CPU?
[13:45] <Dreaman> a8 amd
[13:46] <arunkumar413> AMD A8 quad core processor with 4gigs ram and a dedicated graphic card
[13:46] <alkisg> This one? https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-3850+APU
[13:46] <Dreaman> and
[13:46] <Dreaman> amd64
[13:46] <Dreaman> ubuntu 17,04
[13:46] <Dreaman> install
[13:46] <alkisg> !enter
[13:47] <arunkumar413> ya it's a 64 bit with ubuntu 16.04
[13:47] <lasers> Hi. This is a shot in the dark. Looking for somebody with 'Remv' in their output when they run 'apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run'
[13:47] <oerheks> Dreaman, please, let arunkumar413 answer, the question was not for you
[13:47] <Dreaman> ok
[13:47] <alkisg> arunkumar413: And what's the output of this command? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 3 VGA
[13:48] <arunkumar413> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25738410/
[13:49] <arunkumar413> alkisg: few days back I tried the AMDgpu driver but it didn't work
[13:49] <alkisg> OK, the system seems fine, when it's "slow", does it start using swap at that time?
[13:49] <arunkumar413> alkisg: I didn't check that
[13:49] <alkisg> Run `free` when it's slow and look at the last line
[13:50] <alkisg> If it starts using swap, it'll be slow, yeah
[13:50] <alkisg> So then you'd need more ram etc
[13:50] <alkisg> If not... something else is the issue
[13:50] <arunkumar413> alkisg:
[13:50] <arunkumar413> great
[13:50] <arunkumar413> Now I want to try lxde and see if unity is the spoil sport here
[13:51] <oerheks> arunkumar413, logout, change DE ( top right corner)  and login
[13:51] <alkisg> If you google for benchmarks online, you'll see that it doesn't make much difference
[13:52] <binarydepth> Does anyone knows how to use resize.f2fs?, the manual is a bit short
[13:53] <oerheks> binarydepth, f2fs can only be increased, but i told you this before?
[13:53] <binarydepth> oerheks I understood I can take up the free space after the f2fs partition
[13:54] <arunkumar413> I logged out and logged in but there wasn't any option to select the UI
[13:56] <alkisg> arunkumar413: ls /usr/share/xsessions
[13:56] <arunkumar413> ubuntu.desktop
[13:56] <mmkumr> Is there any software for vldc simulation for ubuntu.
[13:56] <alkisg> arunkumar413: then you didn't install lxde
[13:57] <oerheks> binarydepth, according to your post, after sda2 there is sda4, so you cannot increase. only space available is between sda4 - sda3
[13:57] <arunkumar413> I installed the lxde from synaptic
[13:57] <oerheks> binarydepth, looking at https://askubuntu.com/questions/964398/can-i-resize-an-f2fs-partition-ubuntu-17-04
[13:57] <ikonia> mmkumr: what is vldc ?
[13:58] <oerheks> binarydepth, look at the star and end sectors , you will figure it out
[13:58] <binarydepth> oerheks what I can't figure out is the part "-t target sectors"
[13:59] <ikonia> target sector, what the devil are you doing
[13:59] <arunkumar413> trying these commands https://www.hiroom2.com/2017/07/26/ubuntu-1604-lxde-en/
[13:59] <ikonia> why are you blindly trying commands
[14:00] <ikonia> just ask about what you're unsure what to do
[14:00] <ikonia> rather than finding random posts on the internet
[14:01] <mmkumr> ikonia: Sorry:( I have done spelling mistake. Actually I mean to say is vhdl simulator for ubuntu
[14:01] <ikonia> what is vhdl ?
[14:02] <oerheks> binarydepth, again, there is no unallocated space next to the f2fs partition, is what i see, in your fdisk print
[14:02] <arunkumar413> it's a hard ware description language
[14:03] <binarydepth> Oh yes sorry I have to update that
[14:03] <binarydepth> oerheks
[14:03] <arunkumar413> for developing digital electronic semiconductor devices
[14:03] <oerheks> binarydepth, oke, pastebin your current fdisk please?
[14:03] <arunkumar413> mmkumr: are you from Electronics background?
[14:06] <binarydepth> oerheks http://paste.ubuntu.com/25738491/
[14:06] <akik> mmkumr: check out freehdl
[14:07] <mmkumr> ikonia: VHSIC (Very-High Speed Integrated Circuit) Hardware Description Language
[14:07] <mmkumr> akik: ok
[14:07] <mmkumr> akik: Now I am trying GHDL
[14:08] <akik> gvhdl?
[14:08] <akik> oh there's ghdl too
[14:09] <mmkumr> akik: Yes:)
[14:09] <arunkumar413> switched to lxde. It's fast
[14:11] <oerheks> binarydepth, oke, you should be able to increase sda2, 452085760 - 284313599 =167772161 blocks .. on a live iso, ofcourse?
[14:12] <arunkumar413> i see may entries Lubuntu.desktop  Lubuntu-Netbook.desktop  LXDE.desktop  openbox.desktop  ubuntu.desktop
[14:13] <oerheks> or start live iso, install f2fs-tools, and drag in gparted
[14:13] <Dreaman> omg
[14:14] <binarydepth> ok I'll log back when I'm in live session
[14:14] <binarydepth> oerheks
[14:14] <Dreaman> re install all system whith 17.04 ubuntu
[14:14] <Dreaman> and work
[14:19] <TheWild> hello
[14:19] <TheWild> ls: reading directory '.': Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[14:19] <TheWild> total 0
[14:19] <TheWild> now what?
[14:20] <TheWild> ^ NTFS partition
[14:21] <binarydepth> oerheks I get this error: Error: Support resize to expand only
[14:21] <arunkumar413> how to launch lxlauncher
[14:24] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, read the lxde documentation
[14:36] <alkisg> TheWild: chkdsk /f from windows?
[14:36] <alkisg> Also, are you using UTF-8 charset?
[14:36] <binarydepth> Thnks for the help oerheks I will have to use a backup and reformat the partition
[14:37] <TheWild> no. Windows is dead. Last time I did chkdsk /f, it said the disk is fine.
[14:38] <TheWild> the glitch only occurs in $RECYCLE.BIN (so no big deal), but I'm still interested what's there.
[14:38] <alkisg> TheWild: env | grep ^L; cat /proc/mounts => output?
[14:39] <alkisg> You can run chkdsk /f from a windows installation cd
[14:39] <alkisg> It's even better because the disk isn't in use
[14:39] <alkisg> And you can run it from linux too, but of course it's closed sourced file system etc etc
[14:40] <compdoc> TheWild, ms dskchk isnt a reliable way to know if the disk is dying. need to look at SMART
[14:40] <TheWild> I had a recovery partition from which it was possible to run CMD and run chkdsk
[14:40] <TheWild> SMART stats are OK.
[14:40] <compdoc> *chkdsk
[14:41] <alkisg> Paste the output of those commands...
[14:41] <TheWild> http://termbin.com/0t1v
[14:43] <nugroho> oysttyer
[14:45] <nugroho> ttytter
[14:54] <acheron-a> ?join ##hamradio
[14:54] <tomreyn> /join
[14:55] <EvilClown> Porks have athere on radio statio?
[14:55] <Toba> ...porks?
[14:56] <ikonia> he made a typo, let it go
[14:57] <BluesKaj> EvilClown, http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/origin-of-ham.htm
[15:00] <TheWild> so far nothing helped. Should I really try launching Windows to read what's in that directory?
[15:07] <Cooler> why can't i select sublime text from the open with menu?
[15:07] <Cooler> its not listed in the applications list
[15:08] <Cooler> also does nautilus hide the file extensions by default?
[15:09] <EriC^^> Cooler: no
[15:11] <alkisg> TheWild: yes, broken closed sourced file systems aren't the best, try their native os to fix them
[15:11] <TheWild> ok
[15:12] <alkisg> There's also ntfsfix etc, but of course not as reliable as the native implementation
[15:12] <ioria> Cooler, you need a specific item.desktop in .local/share/applications
[15:12] <TheWild> nah, ntfsfix is almost useless.
[15:13] <alkisg> It's best not to use ntfs if you no longer use windows
[15:13] <TheWild> I wanted to avoid Windows because my 7.5 year old laptop is broken to the point that won't run any OS if it is installed on HDD, but maybe mounting a disk under virtual machine will do it.
[15:14] <TheWild> I want to convert this disk to ext4 or something else linux-like, but first I have to copy all data from this disk to another disk.
[15:15] <Cooler> ioria: what?
[15:15] <Cooler> for drag and drop to work?
[15:15] <new_ubuntuer> uname -I
[15:16] <new_ubuntuer> outputs version
[15:16] <oerheks> Cooler, maybe you need to logout/login after install sublime text, or type sublime in the search F2
[15:16] <baxx> anyone using i3 with ubuntu / Lubuntu ( i'm on lubuntu )
[15:16] <new_ubuntuer> but how to define output as variable
[15:16] <ioria> Cooler, for a custom launcher from "Open with"  menu, you need a .desktop file in that dir (if not native)
[15:17] <new_ubuntuer> var=$(uname -I)
[15:18] <new_ubuntuer> not working :(
[15:19] <lostfile> bummer
[15:20] <oerheks> echo $(uname -r)
[15:21] <gr4ych1ld> I am looking nice program for network scan and control like dameware
[15:22] <kk4ewt> no idea what dameware is but linux has network scan tools
[15:23] <oerheks> dameware is just a remote managment util, https://alternativeto.net/software/dameware/?platform=linux
[15:23] <new_ubuntuer> oops 4.4.0-1022-aws instead of x86_64 oerheks
[15:23] <gr4ych1ld> thanks oerheks
[15:24] <oerheks> new_ubuntuer, you want the arch type?
[15:25] <new_ubuntuer> I want to check if it is 32 or 64
[15:25] <oerheks> uname -m
[15:25] <gr4ych1ld> I am looking nice shoutcast listen app like winamp
[15:26] <new_ubuntuer> but want output to be set as variable oerheks
[15:27] <oerheks> new_ubuntuer, well, adjust your line to -m ?
[15:27] <new_ubuntuer> okay
[15:28] <oerheks> gr4ych1ld, tons of mediaplayers can handle a stream, and all look nice
[15:28] <gr4ych1ld> ok oerheks thanks
[15:30] <new_ubuntuer> oerheks but what is variable name and where it is defined I can't see variable name echo $(uname -m)
[15:30] <ikonia> you set the variable name
[15:30] <ikonia> new_ubuntuer: what are you doing and for who
[15:30] <ikonia> it looks like you're copying a script you don't really understand
[15:31] <new_ubuntuer> copying !! in terms of ?
[15:32] <ikonia> in terms of you've found a script somewhere and you're copying it to try to do something else
[15:32] <new_ubuntuer> no  what I am doing is
[15:33] <new_ubuntuer> making script which gets important info about system and show it in a window
[15:34] <ikonia> new_ubuntuer: ok - so you either want to use one of the MANY tools and scripts that already do that, or you need to join a scripting tutorial / suport channels
[15:35] <oerheks> 2328 pages with conky scripts ... https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2328
[15:37] <new_ubuntuer> hehe
[15:37] <new_ubuntuer> I want to do on my own
[15:37] <oerheks> ohh, then you don't need help
[15:38] <new_ubuntuer> need help
[15:38] <new_ubuntuer> but I want to make my own script
[15:38] <new_ubuntuer> write my script resin is that
[15:38] <new_ubuntuer> there are many ways to do same thing
[15:39] <ikonia> ok - write your own script then, and use a scripting support channel
[15:39] <new_ubuntuer> reason*
[15:39] <new_ubuntuer> so if I get someones script and I want to modify something for a noob like me its very hard
[15:39] <new_ubuntuer> scripting channel ?
[15:40] <oerheks> don't use enter as punctuation
[15:40] <akik> new_ubuntuer: echo $var shows the value
[15:40] <lasers> I want to write a script too. What command can I use to get exhaustive information on package changes?
[15:41] <oerheks> apt-get changelog <package> ,  may not have all third party changelog files, if they didn't add them to it.
[15:42] <lasers> oerheks: Ah. More description required. List of packages to be installed, configured, removed, upgraded, etc.
[15:42] <lasers> apt list --upgradeable  # does not show everything.
[15:44] <oerheks> lasers, you want too much. check out /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:47] <lasers> oerheks: Hmm. Too old. I like 'apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run'.  The lines only printed 'Conf' and 'Inst'... Not same as the information right before the lines.
[15:48] <lasers> (Missing information: Packages no longer required... and following NEW packages).
[15:49] <new_ubuntuer> hello
[15:52] <phos1_> I have got myself blocked by the firewall on Ubuntu 14, I have been able to get in through a remote computer, how can i whitelist myself?
[15:52] <ikonia> phos1_: how are you managing the firewall
[15:53] <phos1_> ikonia: Its not my server so i"m not sure what was setup, I just got access to it, had a few failed passwords getting in and then got locked out
[15:53] <ikonia> phos1_: ok - so talk to the person who's server it is and ask them to whitelist you
[15:54] <ikonia> phos1_: hang on - failed passwords = firewall lock out, thats unlikely
[15:54] <phos1_> They are not around or I would, it's now my problem.
[15:54] <phos1_> Yeah failed SSH passwords
[15:54] <mboard> phos1_ normally ubuntu uses ufw, if you have csf/lfd or fail2ban installed then it can cause lockout
[15:54] <phos1_> When I try to connect in i get connection refused
[15:54] <ikonia> so I suspect fail2ban is auditing the secure log
[15:55] <ikonia> phos1_: first thing is to flush the firewall wall rule blocking you
[15:55] <ikonia> or look to see if it has a time out (I think it's normally 3 hours by default )
[15:55] <phos1_> I waited 12 hours and I"m still blocked
[15:55] <ikonia> so look at the config
[15:57] <phos1_> Fail2ban does seem to be installed
[15:58] <mboard> fail2ban uses iptable rules if I remember correctly, didnt use for a long time
[15:58] <ikonia> it does
[15:59] <phos1_> How can i flush the IPtables?
[15:59] <mboard> phos1_ use google :)
[15:59] <ikonia> unless you know the firewall, it's not something I'd suggest
[15:59] <ikonia> I'd suggest you just drop the rule thats blocking you
[16:00] <ikonia> I'd also suggest putting your details in the fail2ban whitelist
[16:00] <pavlos> iptables -F (see man iptables
[16:00] <ikonia> restarting the firewall will then make sure you're details don't get used to trigger the blocking
[16:00] <phos1_> That's what I've been trying, I just tried to restart fail2ban and it failed because a socket file is present
[16:00] <ikonia> phos1_: restarting fail2ban won't change the firewall
[16:00] <ikonia> it's a trigger to iptables, it doesn't actually store the firewall details itself
[16:02] <phos1_> I did do several things to whitelist my IP in IP tables does it require restarting IP tables after that for it to take effect
[16:02] <ikonia> phos1_: what did you do in iptables
[16:02] <ikonia> I find it odd that you've done "several things" in iptables, but you don't know how to flush the rules
[16:02] <ikonia> that seems like saying I'm doing brain surgery but I don't know how to turn the lights on
[16:02] <phos1_> Gooleling blindly, i'm not very familure with IP tables..
[16:03] <mboard> phos1_ why would somebody give you access to their server if you don't know how to reset a firewall? ;o
[16:03] <ikonia> so making random changes to the firewall when a.) you don't know the tools b.)you don't know the setup seems the worst possible approach
[16:03] <arunkumar413> after installing lxde. I'm unable to select the other UIs at the login screen
[16:04] <arunkumar413> By  default it's the login screen is lbuntu
[16:05] <oerheks> arunkumar413, logout, change DE ( top right corner)  and login
[16:05] <arunkumar413> oerheks: tried but it doesn't show other desktops
[16:05] <oerheks> same way as ou changed unity
[16:06] <oerheks> strange, as you seem to installed lxde on top of unity
[16:09] <alkisg> arunkumar413: now, ls /usr/share/xsessions, does it show anything else than ubuntu.desktop?
[16:10] <arunkumar413> alkisg: these are the entries in the xsessions file Lubuntu.desktop          LXDE.desktop     ubuntu.desktop
[16:10] <arunkumar413> Lubuntu-Netbook.desktop  openbox.desktop
[16:11] <alkisg> arunkumar413: and when you logout, do you see an option to select any one of them, even just ubuntu?
[16:11] <alkisg> Or you didn't find the option at all?
[16:11] <alkisg> Also, which ubuntu version, 16.04?
[16:22] <TheWild> hello
[16:22] <TheWild> according to our previous discussion about installing from .deb
[16:22] <TheWild> https://hastebin.com/owucinucip.sql
[16:22] <TheWild> why doesn't it attempt to resolve dependencies?
[16:22] <ikonia> it does try
[16:22] <ikonia> it fails
[16:23] <ikonia> this is why you shouldn't do what you are trying to do
[16:23] <TheWild> why?
[16:23] <ikonia> why whwat
[16:23] <ikonia> what ?
[16:23] <TheWild> why I shouldn't do it?
[16:23] <ikonia> because it's not going to be using packages / dependencies that are provided / supported by ubuntu
[16:24] <ikonia> why would you not use the version provided by ubuntu
[16:24] <TheWild> ah sh. my bad. It's 16.04 AFAIK, but I accidentally got 16.10
[16:24] <TheWild> will be back.
[16:25] <TheWild> ikonia: you mean what's available via apt get after apt update?
[16:25] <ReedK0> someone help me set my partitions
[16:25] <ReedK0> please
[16:26] <ikonia> TheWild: you're trying to install virtualbox right ?
[16:26] <compdoc> ReedK0, best to let the OS installer do it
[16:26] <TheWild> yup
[16:26] <ikonia> TheWild: why would you not just do apt-get install virtualbox
[16:26] <ikonia> (or vbox - I can't remember the package name off the top of my head)
[16:26] <ReedK0> ReedK0, no it's not.  My instller wanted to install it on the 8 gb remaining on my windows drive
[16:26] <ikonia> why are you putting the deb onto the file system
[16:26] <ReedK0> I need to manually do it, man.
[16:27] <TheWild> what's the chance that the package is up to date? I'm trying to not rely on repo at all.
[16:27] <ReedK0> I'm thinking to make /boot / /home swap (don't know the mount point)....
[16:27] <ReedK0> And then /win (for windows sharing).
[16:28] <ReedK0> And I was thinking to keep all of my pics, docs, vids, and audio files at the /win directory
[16:28] <ReedK0> partition*
[16:28] <ReedK0> Would it be smart to make one more dedicated to, for example, programs?  Or is that what /home is for?
[16:29] <ReedK0> and how solid is the name "home"?  Because that's really dreary to call a place on a harddrive your home
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ReedK0, the moubtpoints can be set by right clicking on the target partition and choosing it in the drop down in manual partitoning
[16:29] <ReedK0> i'm not sure what to set them as.
[16:29] <ReedK0> you mean i can change them any time?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> no, just during the installation
[16:30] <adrian_1908> ReedK0: home is for your personal files, mostly configuration. Whether you also keep your media there is up to you. But it's certainly an established thing, not something random.
[16:30] <ReedK0> Then where do my programs go?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> you must choose a / (root) partition for the OS
[16:31] <adrian_1908> ReedK0: /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, /opt for example.
[16:31] <adrian_1908> ReedK0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[16:31] <ReedK0> So I should make a /usr and a /opt partition also, right?
[16:32] <ReedK0> brb let me read that again
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ReedK0, usually / and /home partitions are sufficient
[16:33] <adrian_1908> ReedK0: No need to give yourself a headache over this. A /boot partition, and a / (root) partition should be fine for regular use. The hierarchy is there to work for you.
[16:33] <adrian_1908> Or maybe /home as BluesKaj said.
[16:38] <pinaplejuic> sorry dc
[16:39] <pinaplejuic> it's reed
[16:39] <pinaplejuic> what's up
[16:39] <mguy> No matter how long you think about your partitioning, you're going to end up change it because you're out of space at some point
[16:39] <oerheks> !partitioning
[16:40] <pinaplejuic> I just got a few questions about it, you know?
[16:40] <adrian_1908> And swap is a file in recent Ubuntu versions (like in Windows), so you'd probably not create a swap partition anymore either. Gotta go, good luck.
[16:40] <oerheks> pinaplejuic, "it" ??
[16:40] <pinaplejuic> I actually want to have a partition completely dedicated to programs.  is that a stupid idea?
[16:41] <pinaplejuic> yeah it the themed topic (partitioning linux installations)
[16:41] <pinaplejuic> oh no more swap interesting
[16:41] <pinaplejuic> i'll go read that one now brb
[16:41] <oerheks> !enter
[16:43] <pinaplejuic> It's not easier to follow if they're separate trains of thought, oerheks.  Unfortunately, IRC doesn't support multi-line messages.  If you use a line break, this is what happens. *nothing happens*
[16:43] <oerheks> pinaplejuic, it is not.
[16:44] <pinaplejuic> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/installation_guide/sect-disk-partitioning-setup-s390#sect-recommended-partitioning-scheme-s390 This is what I've been reading
[16:44] <ikonia> TheWild: not relying on the repo is the worst possible model to take
[16:44] <ikonia> TheWild: what is wrong with the version in the repo
[16:44] <pinaplejuic> Okay so if I post a link by itself, does the title of the document appear via a bot?  Or does that bot just not exist in this channel, oerheks ?
[16:45] <oerheks> pinaplejuic, we have no such bot function.
[16:45] <oerheks> this is ubuntu support, why posting redhat stuff ?
[16:47] <pinaplejuic> Yeah, I guess sisters always tear each other's eyes out over whose clothes are cuter rather than civilly sharing and touting one another regardless of who's looking.
[16:47] <pinaplejuic> man cause it's cool that's why.
[16:47] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: ?
[16:47] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: does that document actually apply to the ubuntu partitioning layout/tools/model
[16:48] <alkisg> pinaplejuic: using a single partition for everything is simpler, and you only have one centralized free file system space to worry about. If you don't have specific reasons to use multiple partitions... don't.
[16:48] <pinaplejuic> It pertains to the question.  I haven't found anyhting similar for ubuntu
[16:48] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: does that document apply to the ubuntu tooling/partitioning utilities/layout ?
[16:49] <oerheks> pinaplejuic, yes you do, ubottu gave a perfect tutorial, when you joined this channel
[16:49] <pinaplejuic> ikonia, yes.
[16:49] <pinaplejuic> no, ubottu didn't becuase it doesn't answer the questions
[16:49] <pinaplejuic> I looked over the document, and it didn't answer any of the questions that were asked.
[16:49] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: ubottu will respond to triggers
[16:50] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: ok - so that document doesn't actually confirm to the ubuntu recommendations/default layout
[16:50] <oerheks> pinaplejuic, you didn't read the questions at all, stop trolling
[16:50] <ikonia> I does provide some useful background reading
[16:50] <pinaplejuic> the default layout asked me to delete my windows harddrive.
[16:50] <arm1e> Hi. Im testing 17.10 and cant get appindicators to show. Any advice?
[16:50] <pinaplejuic> i asked the question, I'm sure I read it.
[16:50] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: no it didn't
[16:50] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: what is the exact problem you are trying to solve
[16:50] <ikonia> arm1e: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 17.10 discussion
[16:51] <pinaplejuic> How many partitions and the appropriate mount points.
[16:51] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: so that is personal preference
[16:51] <pinaplejuic> exactly
[16:51] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: it's up to you how you lay your system out
[16:52] <pinaplejuic> I have an idea of how I want to lay it out, but I'm not sure that my idea makes sense so I'm asking people who are more experienced.
[16:52] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: so show your layout and ask for a review
[16:52] <pinaplejuic> okay. brb
[16:52] <oerheks> ubuntu 17.04 uses 1 partition, including swapfile
[16:52] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: it doesn't have to be this confrontational, just ask clearly what you need help with and the ubuntu context
[16:53] <oerheks> i'll bet he does not use ubuntu at all
[16:53] <ikonia> it's quite possible
[16:55] <pinaplejuic> 16.04 lts: /boot 1GB / 40GB /win 300GB /home 100GB /usr 150GB /opt 150GB
[16:55] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: why put /usr and /opt on seperate partitions
[16:56] <ikonia> and certainly that size...wow, thats juge
[16:56] <ikonia> huge
[16:56] <TheWild> ikonia: "the worst possible model to take". For example when latest stable version of PHP was 7.1.9, in repo it was 7.1.0. This actually wasn't a big deal, but I've seen software that wasn't updated for years in the repo.
[16:56] <TheWild> was that youtube-dl?
[16:56] <ikonia> TheWild: it is updated
[16:56] <ikonia> TheWild: it's updated and supported and maintained
[16:56] <pinaplejuic> Because if the main operating system was damaged, I'd still want to keep the partitions with my programs on them
[16:56] <ikonia> TheWild: if you're chasing version numbres, you have failed
[16:56] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: if the operating system is damaged, those binaries are worthless
[16:57] <ducasse> pinaplejuic: to do that you backup a list of installed packages
[16:57] <pinaplejuic> so there's no safe place for the programs?
[16:57] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: I'm not sure what you're asking
[16:57] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: the operaitng system and the tools on top are linked
[16:57] <ikonia> both are worthless without the other
[16:57] <pinaplejuic> well I was thinking after configuring the OS and getting everything really nice, I would clone it to a seprate computer
[16:58] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: thats a bad idea
[16:58] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: and having seperate partitions like that won't make it any easier/better
[16:58] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: you'll find it probably makes it harder
[16:58] <pinaplejuic> Portable is such a bad idea, even in linux still?
[16:58] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: no, portable is a good idea, and it's very doable
[16:58] <pinaplejuic> okay well that's what I want to do: portable so I can clone it to other computers
[16:59] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: other computers that are identical ?
[16:59] <pinaplejuic> I'm really worried that I won't be able to access any pictures or videos from windows, though.  I sometimes am forced to use windows
[16:59] <pinaplejuic> no. they are not identical
[16:59] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: then actually making an install profile rather htan a "clone" would be better
[16:59] <pinaplejuic> different models.  and even if they were the same, I suppose every snowflake is unique
[16:59] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: using deployment tools
[17:00] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: if they are the same, they are not snowflakes
[17:00] <pinaplejuic> okay, well i'll bookmark that for later.  But for now, this
[17:00] <alkisg> pinaplejuic: 100 GB Windows, 100 GB WinHome/Data, 500 GB Ubuntu, 8 GB Swap. Don't worry too much about cloning, multiple partitions don't help in cloning.
[17:00] <pinaplejuic> So, do I need to do anything now?  Or can I set up deployment tools later?
[17:00] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: just focus on getting a nice clean setup on your current machine
[17:00] <ikonia> eg: why bother with /opt and /usr
[17:01] <pinaplejuic> also /win is not for WINDOWS OS.  /win is for accessing media via my Windows OS (which is on a different HDD).
[17:01] <pinaplejuic> right nix those
[17:01] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: so you can go ahead with what you want to do then
[17:01] <ikonia> sizes seem very big, but only you know what space you're going to use
[17:01] <pinaplejuic> so for example, I don't need to worry about creating /boot /home / because it won't cause deployment tools to be a problem
[17:02] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: no
[17:02] <pinaplejuic> no i don't.
[17:02] <ikonia> you don't what ?
[17:02] <pinaplejuic> I don't have to worry
[17:02] <pinaplejuic> right?
[17:02] <ikonia> correct, that's fine
[17:02] <oerheks> just make a ntfs partition, standard supported in u̶b̶u̶n̶t̶u̶ redhat
[17:03] <pinaplejuic> And the ability to access my files when using the other OS via the /win partition?
[17:03] <ikonia> pinaplejuic: you're using ubuntu righ t?
[17:03] <ikonia> as that can impact this discussion
[17:18] <ReedK2> sorry got DC'ed
[17:18] <Pinapljuic> 01:04:23
[17:18] <Pinapljuic> Yes, ubuntu 16.04 (otherwise known as UbuntOH MY GOD i got disconnected!)
[17:19] <Pinapljuic> .seen ikonia
[17:20] <Pinapljuic> the mount-point listing in the installer mentions: / /boot /home /tmp /usr /var /srv /opt /usr/local
[17:22] <ducasse> that doesn't mean you should have separate filesystems for all of them
[17:38] <ReedK0> anyway back to the key question: should I have a separate FS dedicated to
[17:38] <ReedK0> sorry I got dc'd at 01:21:09
[17:39] <Pinapljuic> Damn, this computer bright is super bright
[17:42] <hggdh> Pinapljuic: of lod is was common to have different filesystems/partitions for some common top-level directories (like /tmp, /usr, /, /opt, etc)
[17:43] <hggdh> nowadays, with very large storage media available, it is less common. We usually only have a separate mount if there is a specific requirement -- like it is SANS, or must be encrypted, or NFS, etc
[17:43] <ikonia> hggdh: don't bother
[17:43] <ikonia> hggdh: he's ignoring the info and now asking in ##linux
[17:45] <Pinapljuic> i'm not ignoring info: the info wasn't posted
[17:45] <Pinapljuic> ikonia is just trolling me.
[17:45] <ikonia> what info was not given
[17:45] <ikonia> no-one is trolling you,hence why I'm asking you for the missing info
[17:46] <ikonia> what info was not made clear
[17:46] <Pinapljuic> I'm also checking multiple sources.  Is there an op for ikonia ?  He's trying to form a cult. Isn't there a "one true linux way" rule in this chatroom?
[18:05] <posi> How does one add a package to the ubuntu software boutique
[18:07] <ikonia> posi: there is a submission guide on the wiki, I'll see if I can find it
[18:07] <ikonia> posi: what package are you thinking ?
[18:07] <posi> the brave browser
[18:08] <posi> ikonia: does it have to be a .deb already
[18:08] <posi> err
[18:08] <posi> we create crappy debs with fpm
[18:08] <posi> as it's an electron app
[18:09] <ikonia> posi: so I'd say this is something you should look at maybe the universe repo
[18:09] <ikonia> posi: have you looked at the motu process ?
[18:09] <posi> where's that
[18:09] <posi> nope
[18:09] <ikonia> !mout
[18:09] <ikonia> oops
[18:09] <ikonia> !motu
[18:10] <oerheks> there is a --beta snap package .. sudo snap install brave --beta
[18:10] <oerheks> brave (beta) v0.18.36dev
[18:10] <posi> ok so get it added to the universe
[18:11] <oerheks> https://github.com/snapcrafters/brave
[18:11] <posi> oerheks: Yea that's very true. I am getting reports that it's not working.
[18:11] <posi> btw
[18:11] <posi> We are about to release our own snaps based on there work soon
[18:11] <oerheks> works here, 17.04
[18:13] <posi> Just got this ticket
[18:13] <posi> ```
[18:13] <posi> I now installed brave from snap on Ubuntu 17.10 and it won’t start when I press it :sweat_smile: Linux and Brave is a whole world of problems :sweat_smile:
[18:13] <posi> ```
[18:13] <oerheks> oh, 17.10 .. not out yet, wait for the 19th this month
[18:13] <posi> Anyway, i am getting more and more feedback that we should be making our own snaps
[18:13] <posi> happy if you wanna join are group as the official person
[18:13] <posi> but we'd want to fully audit the machines they are built on
[18:16] <oerheks> posi, join #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 support, maybe someone likes to test this out. it works on 17.04 zesty, so i wonder why not on 17.10
[18:17] <ra21vi> i have ubuntu 16.04 on Dell 7559.. I got update notification, installed it.. it contained some kernel updates.. after that its not booting.. I was getting restart loop because partition was not found. made few changes in bios for uefi/legacy settings, now I am getting grub rescue which is complaining normal.mod is not found in some /boot/grub/i386 directory.. please help
[18:18] <ra21vi> i dont see any i386 named directory in /boot/grub, rather there is x86_64-efi directory which has normal.mod but it does not load
[18:18] <posi> oerheks: sure
[18:19] <posi> oerheks: thanks
[18:19] <ra21vi> is there anyway to fix it without reinstalling everything from fresh
[18:19] <ducasse> posi: several people have reported problems with electron snaps on 17.10, so that doesn't surprise me. i avoid electron myself, so i haven't really tested it.
[18:21] <ducasse> ra21vi: don't change from uefi to legacy or vice versa after install - change back
[18:23] <ra21vi> ducasse: i dont remember what was set previously.. after upgrade and reboot, it was in loop where dell utility used to load for diagnostics and no way I can get grub.. so I changed it.. later tried every possible combination but it does not load it.. only loading legacy gives me grub rescue shell at least
[18:24] <ra21vi> ducasse: if there is no i386 directory in /boot/grub.. and there is x86-64-efi directory, does it mean previously it was booted in efi only mode ?
[18:25] <ducasse> ra21vi: do you have an efi partition?
[18:25] <posi> ducasse: can't blame u
[18:27] <ra21vi> ducasse: i am not sure.. in grub rescue, ls shows 3 paritions, and hd0,msdos2 has linux data
[18:35] <ra21vi> from grub rescue, is there a way to find efi partition?
[18:35] <alkisg> ra21vi: boot from a live cd so that you can give more info, like "sudo lsblk --fs" etc
[18:35] <alkisg> efi is vfat, linux is ext4
[18:35] <ra21vi> alkisg: ok
[18:36] <ra21vi> right now, I dont have live disk.. cannt burn one as system not working.. i will try to get one for troubleshooting
[18:41] <Kanov> is there some image viewer which functions somewhat like a PDF viewer? that is, images are continuous and the zoom level remains the same across photos
[18:42] <Kanov> in any normal image viewer, if I zoom in by a certain amount in some spot and go onto the next image, this zoom disappears
[18:42] <Kanov> does anything like this even exist
[18:43] <oerheks> Kanov, not that i know of..
[18:43] <ducasse> as they will be different files with (potentially) different resolutions, probably not
[18:43] <Kanov> ducasse: the files are of a very similar resolution
[18:44] <Kanov> actually, the images differ not very much in length/width/height, they are a bunch of images of book pages
[18:45] <ducasse> yes, but that's a specific enough case that i think you'd need to script something with imagemagick or similar
[18:45] <Kanov> surely an image viewer of this sort exists
[18:45] <Kanov> ducasse: "feh" does exactly what i need but the problem is that it's not continuous, and it's a text based image viewer
[18:46] <Kanov> feh -g does the thing, and then you can set in a setting to keep the zoom level across photos
[18:46] <oerheks> maybe gthumb? last answer.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/90158/is-there-an-image-viewer-that-will-save-zoom-settings-across-images-folders-or-u
[18:46] <Kanov> surely an image viewer exists somewhere of this sort, ducasse, your imagemagick suggestion may be too overkill and misinformed
[18:47] <Kanov> feh was exactly like this and it surpassed you
[18:47] <ducasse> nobody knows every option of every image viewer out there :)
[18:48] <Kanov> the problem is that I have many image sets which are of different books, and I can't compile them all into a PDF, for various reasons
[18:48] <Kanov> im trying to look for a way to comfortably read the books through an image viewer, as if it was a PDF
[18:50] <oerheks> Kanov, put your question on askubuntu?
[18:51] <oerheks> make sure you give all details, not like you did here, as you knew some options already
[18:55] <ducasse> most image viewers aren't intended for reading books, funnily enough, but if feh works then you have your answer
[18:57] <oerheks> or in ##linux, grinn
[18:59] <ber532k> Kanov: why can't you compile them to PDF?
[18:59] <alkisg> Kanov: I haven't read all that you said, but there are various comics reads out there with a lot of viewing options, that might suit your needs.
[18:59] <alkisg> *comics viewers, sorry
[18:59] <Kanov> alkisg: what is one such comic viewer you have in mind
[18:59] <alkisg> E.g. comix
[19:00] <Kanov> alkisg: does it have the ability to show images continuously and can zoom position remain the same throughout all images?
[19:02] <alkisg> Kanov: I haven't used it in a while, but I think so
[19:05] <alkisg> Kanov: https://linuxaria.com/recensioni/comic-book-viewers-for-linux for other options
[19:08] <swensson> Can I remove mysql complety? so I can reinstall it? Can't remember the password and I can't reset it... It's nothing important on the db
[19:09] <oerheks> swensson, sure, stop the service, remove it with -purge, and make sure the database is wiped too, else you end up with the same issue
[19:10] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/640899/how-do-i-uninstall-mysql-completely
[19:11] <swensson> oerheks Okey thanks, I'll try that!
[19:16] <swensson> oerheks Worked ! =) Thanks a lot for the help =D
[19:17] <oerheks> swensson, have fun!
[19:22] <Kanov> how the hell do you zoom in, alkisg
[19:23] <MohaAhm> Hello
[19:24] <MohaAhm> I need help with slow boot problem
[19:24] <MohaAhm> Anyone here?
[19:24] <MohaAhm> Hi
[19:24] <tomreyn> MohaAhm: roughly 1000 people
[19:25] <MohaAhm> Haha
[19:25] <MohaAhm> My home is not encrypted
[19:25] <MohaAhm> And I am still having a slow boot time
[19:25] <MohaAhm> approx 2 minutes
[19:25] <ioria> MohaAhm, systemd-analyze blame
[19:26] <MohaAhm> I have posted on askubuntu
[19:26] <MohaAhm> Ok
[19:26] <ioria> MohaAhm, if you are on xenial and on
[19:26] <MohaAhm> I will post on pastebin
[19:26] <MohaAhm> 17.04
[19:26] <ioria> ok
[19:27] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/9qKhB4bq
[19:28] <MohaAhm> the sda service is taking a whole minute alone
[19:29] <MohaAhm> I have checked to see if home is encrypted
[19:29] <MohaAhm> using
[19:29] <MohaAhm> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/172618/is-my-home-folder-encrypted
[19:29] <MohaAhm> but there is no .ecryptfs
[19:29] <oerheks> so what is on that sda5 ?
[19:30] <MohaAhm> it is where linux resides, I think
[19:30] <ioria> MohaAhm, you don't know if your home is encrypted ?
[19:30] <MohaAhm> It is not encrypted
[19:30] <MohaAhm> according to
[19:30] <MohaAhm> ls -A /home
[19:31] <pavlos> lsblk -f
[19:31] <MohaAhm> loop0  squashf                                                      /snap/core/3 loop1  squashf                                                      /snap/core/2 loop2  squashf                                                      /snap/atom/3 loop3  squashf                                                      /snap/core/2 loop4  squashf                                                      /snap/atom/3 loop5  squashf
[19:31] <MohaAhm> sorry
[19:32] <oerheks> !paste
[19:32] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/P61tJvvL
[19:33] <ioria> MohaAhm, nice
[19:33] <MohaAhm> What is nice?
[19:33] <MohaAhm> :)
[19:34] <oerheks> fsck /dev/sda5 from a live iso, to see if it contains problems
[19:35] <ioria> MohaAhm, i'd compare    sudo blkid and fstab, for starter
[19:36] <MohaAhm> \/etc/fstab
[19:36] <MohaAhm> ?
[19:36] <ioria> MohaAhm, you got a swap partition; zesty uses swap file
[19:36] <MohaAhm> Ok
[19:36] <MohaAhm> I tried to create a swap file
[19:37] <ioria> MohaAhm, why ?
[19:37] <MohaAhm> but it didn't persist after reboot
[19:37] <ioria> really ?
[19:37] <ntd> swap file? really? that must play well on COW fs
[19:37] <MohaAhm> I thought it might clear the problem
[19:37] <MohaAhm> running /proc/swaps
[19:37] <MohaAhm> returned nothing after reboot
[19:38] <MohaAhm> so I think the swap file didn't persist
[19:38] <MohaAhm> or am I wrong?
[19:38] <alkisg> MohaAhm: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[19:38] <MohaAhm> Ok
[19:39] <ber532k> MohaAhm: maybe also `lsblk -f`
[19:39] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/J11BPghR
[19:39] <MohaAhm> this is the output of /etc/fstab
[19:40] <MohaAhm> but I must tell you that I have only just now commented the last line that indicates the swap partition
[19:40] <ioria> MohaAhm,   ls /swapfile   ?
[19:40] <MohaAhm> ok
[19:40] <alkisg> Seems ok, and the output of `dmesg` ? E.g. dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:40] <MohaAhm> ioria: /swapfile
[19:41] <ioria> MohaAhm,   sudo file  /swapfile
[19:41] <alkisg> MohaAhm: ah, the last line has syntax errors, if you have just commented it out, try rebooting now
[19:41] <alkisg> There's no "type swap" etc there
[19:41] <ber532k> AohaAhm: Did you reboot after commenting out swap?
[19:41] <ber532k> ^^ MohaAhm
[19:42] <ber532k> did it help?
[19:42] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/6bVYEpC3
[19:42] <MohaAhm> berk532: https://pastebin.com/P61tJvvL
[19:42] <ioria> MohaAhm,   ok, you sw part had no mount point ;  the swapfile is UUID=a62eb5b1-08ea-43a9-8b4f-8553cdefcf4b
[19:43] <oerheks> 2 failures, you are not on 17.04, and you didn't add a swap partition, as sda6 was already there from installation..
[19:43] <ioria> MohaAhm,   youcan confirm with sudo blkid
[19:43] <MohaAhm> I am on 17.04
[19:43] <MohaAhm> !!!!
[19:44] <ioria> sy, told a stupid thing
[19:44] <MohaAhm> ioria: what do you need me to confirm?
[19:44] <ioria> MohaAhm,   the uid of the swapfile
[19:45] <MohaAhm> ioria: it doesn't show up using sudo blkid
[19:46] <MohaAhm> no entry for swapfile there
[19:46] <MohaAhm> there is an entry for sda6
[19:46] <ioria> MohaAhm,   i mean that swap partition has this syntax : UUID=bla     none            swap    sw              0       0
[19:47] <MohaAhm> UUID
[19:47] <MohaAhm> d4df51a1-e991-47ea-920b-02502d4f7226
[19:47] <ioria> MohaAhm,   not enough :þ
[19:47] <ioria> MohaAhm,   now that is commented, try to reboot
[19:48] <MohaAhm> will reboot and get back to you
[19:48] <MohaAhm> thanks for now, to all of you
[19:48] <oerheks> swapon --show
[19:49] <MohaAhm> oerheks: returns nothing
[19:49] <ioria> MohaAhm,   your fstab line foe swap is wrong
[19:49] <ioria> *for
[19:50] <MohaAhm> ioria: do I reboot or fix the last line?
[19:50] <ioria> MohaAhm,   reboot
[19:50] <oerheks> for a swap file, this answer should work https://askubuntu.com/a/904632 ( end part)
[19:51] <MohaAhm> oerheks: I have already tried this yesterday
[19:51] <MohaAhm> Perhaps I did it wrong.
[19:51] <MohaAhm> :)
[19:51] <MohaAhm> I will reboot and get back to you
[19:56] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't delete file using sudo
[19:56] <RonaldsMazitis> what can I do
[19:56] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: what is the command you are using exactly
[19:57] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo rm -f filename
[19:57] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: what file system is the file on
[19:58] <RonaldsMazitis> usb drive
[19:58] <ikonia> no, what file system
[19:58] <ikonia> not device
[19:58] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't know
[19:59] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: I'll guess, is the usb being moved from a windows computer
[19:59] <RonaldsMazitis> no
[19:59] <ikonia> from what
[19:59] <RonaldsMazitis> ubuntu
[20:00] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: please run "touch file"
[20:00] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: as in "touch testfile"
[20:00] <ikonia> does that work ?
[20:00] <MohaAhm> Hello again
[20:00] <MohaAhm> still slow boot
[20:00] <RonaldsMazitis> nothing happens
[20:01] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: does the file get created ?
[20:01] <ikonia> (as in is there a file called testfile)
[20:01] <MohaAhm> hi
[20:01] <pavlos> MohaAhm: is the analyze-blame still spending time on sda5
[20:01] <MohaAhm> pavlos
[20:01] <MohaAhm> more
[20:02] <RonaldsMazitis> touch: cannot touch 'file': Read-only file system
[20:02] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: there is your answer
[20:02] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/r2nAr9Tr
[20:02] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: although why did you not get that message the first time
[20:02] <RonaldsMazitis> but how it became read only
[20:02] <MohaAhm> After reboot
[20:03] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: no idea
[20:03] <RonaldsMazitis> can I change permissions?
[20:03] <RonaldsMazitis> I tried to change but did not work
[20:03] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: it's READ ONLY
[20:03] <ikonia> RonaldsMazitis: that means you can't change anything
[20:03] <oerheks> read only happens when the filesystem is corrupt/shutdown ugly
[20:03] <RonaldsMazitis> can I wipe the usb drive
[20:04] <MohaAhm> ...
[20:05] <MohaAhm> hi
[20:05] <JohnnyDoed> Hi all. I've installed Lubuntu without a problem, now I'm trying to install Ubuntu but for some reason my HDD is not recognised during install. Anyone experienced something similar? Googled it, said disable fast boot which I did, no difference. Strange how installation of Lubuntu can find the HDD but not Ubuntu.
[20:05] <pavlos> MohaAhm: do you have a /etc/crypttab file?
[20:05] <MohaAhm> no
[20:05] <MohaAhm> empty
[20:06] <MohaAhm> # <target name>	<source device>		<key file>	<options>
[20:06] <MohaAhm> This is the only line in it
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> /media/ronalds/SP UFD U2
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> is the name of usb
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> how can I change read only now
[20:07] <alkisg> MohaAhm: what's the output of `dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
[20:08] <alkisg> JohnnyDoed: what's the output of `sudo lsblk --fs`?
[20:08] <MohaAhm> http://termbin.com/mfnao
[20:08] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg: I'll check
[20:11] <Bashing-om> JohnnyDoed: Number of questions. What method are you using to install - "install along side" ?, what is the present partitioning ? pastebin from the liveDVD(USB) ' sudo parted -l ';  EFI system and are you matching the new install with what lubuntu was installed as ?
[20:12] <RonaldsMazitis> ikonia: this did not work sudo mount -o remount,rw '/media/ronalds/SP UFD U2'
[20:13] <JohnnyDoed> Bashing-om: My goal is to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu server edition over the present one. Present partioning is the basic option when doing guided Lubuntu, nothing fancy. Not sure about the last two questions, sorry.
[20:13] <oerheks> spaces in names...
[20:15] <MohaAhm> I guess I will wait a few days and then make a fresh install
[20:15] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg: Sorry for the late response, the shell doesn't recognize the commands, it's fairly limited. Uploading pictures...
[20:16] <pavlos> MohaAhm: what does swapon -s say?
[20:16] <MohaAhm> it returns nothing
[20:17] <alkisg> MohaAhm: your dmesg indeed says sda5 needs 44 secs to load... but I can't imagine why
[20:17] <black_13> how do you know how much memory is use by my ubuntu vbox memory
[20:17] <RonaldsMazitis> ikonia this might be working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4lAlb74mGs
[20:17] <alkisg> JohnnyDoed: maybe it recognizes blkid
[20:19] <pavlos> MohaAhm: iirc, sda6 is commented out in fstab
[20:19] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg: yes it did
[20:21] <MohaAhm> It was not commented
[20:21] <RonaldsMazitis> well it worked I'm just shocked file system can get read only accidentially
[20:21] <MohaAhm> and the problem was there also
[20:21] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg: Blkid: https://imgur.com/a/80ZRL
[20:22] <alkisg> JohnnyDoed: so, it recognizes the partitions... where's the issue?
[20:22] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg: During install: https://imgur.com/a/8oywL
[20:23] <pavlos> MohaAhm: can you pastebin the fstab again?
[20:23] <JohnnyDoed> Only option is the USB which I'm using to boot with
[20:23] <MohaAhm> Ok
[20:24] <MohaAhm> But I have deleted the comment symbol
[20:24] <cristian_c> hello
[20:25] <MohaAhm> https://pastebin.com/x8MwUdV0
[20:25] <cristian_c> when I use mozplugger opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead
[20:25] <cristian_c> How could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files with this software?
[20:26] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[20:26] <pavlos> MohaAhm: my line is, UUID=0360e16d-c6b5-479f-83cd-0b1926268391 none            swap    sw              0       0    are you missing the rest of the parms?
[20:26] <MohaAhm> Ok
[20:27] <MohaAhm> I have noticed that when browsing questions on askubuntu
[20:27] <MohaAhm> do I put the missing symbols manually?
[20:27] <pavlos> MohaAhm: edit fstab via sudo and add them with tabs in between
[20:32] <pavlos> MohaAhm: when done, please paste fstab again
[20:32] <MohaAhm> Ok
[20:33] <MohaAhm> http://termbin.com/yqn8v
[20:33] <MohaAhm> done
[20:34] <pavlos> MohaAhm: looks ok, care to reboot again and report back?
[20:34] <MohaAhm> Will do
[20:38] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[20:39] <pavlos> oct19
[20:40] <ChunkzZ> October 19th?
[20:40] <oerheks> maybe .. but that is the plan, yes
[20:40] <pavlos> I assume the Q was when is 17.10 out
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[20:48] <MohaAhm> nothing has changed
[20:49] <alkisg> MohaAhm: if you boot from a live cd/usb, does it boot fast?
[20:49] <pavlos> MohaAhm: does swapon -s report /dev/sda6 ... blah-blah
[20:49] <alkisg> MohaAhm: also try this: sudo update-initramfs -u; sudo reboot
[20:50] <alkisg> Because the initramfs also keeps a copy from the previous, bad /etc/fstab
[20:50] <MohaAhm> alkisg
[20:50] <MohaAhm> I will have to make live usb to answer that
[20:51] <alkisg> (11:22:45 μμ) JohnnyDoed: alkisg: During install: https://imgur.com/a/8oywL => so, the partitions are there, where's the issue?
[20:51] <JohnnyDoed> alkisg, Bashing-om: So sorry, you guys are correct. It found my HDD the whole time. I just got confused that the HDD was only 32GB, thought it was 128 and the USB was 32GB.
[20:52] <JohnnyDoed> Just spent 2 hours on nothing :)
[20:52] <alkisg> :)
[20:52] <JohnnyDoed> Thanks for the help though :D
[20:52] <alkisg> np
[20:52] <MohaAhm> running update-initramfs -u
[20:52] <MohaAhm> takes time
[20:53] <MohaAhm> done
[20:53] <Bashing-om> JohnnyDoed: all well that ends well .. sure had me scratching my head !
[20:54] <JohnnyDoed> Bashing-om: Sorry about that!
[20:54] <MohaAhm> pavlos
[20:54] <pavlos> MohaAhm: here
[20:54] <MohaAhm> it reports /dev/sda6
[20:54] <pavlos> MohaAhm: good
[20:54] <MohaAhm> 	partition	5857276	0	-1
[20:55] <MohaAhm> so reboot now?
[20:55] <pavlos> MohaAhm: sure, alkisg suggested
[20:55] <Bashing-om> JohnnyDoed: Was a good exercise on my part .
[20:57] <black_13> how do i uninstall the openjdk and install the oracle jdk
[20:59] <oerheks> black_13, no need to uninstall, install oracle java, run the tool "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select oracle
[20:59] <oerheks> see !java
[21:00] <oerheks> !java
[21:00] <oerheks> you might want to uninstall openjdk*
[21:01] <oerheks> ( tip: install synaptic for a detailed softwarecenter )
[21:04] <adrian_1908> JohnnyDoed: I once had something similar happen. My cheap Chromebook only has 16GB HDD and I used a 16GB USB stick for the bootable image, that had me looking for something that was already there :)
[21:04] <adrian_1908> *16GB SSD I meant
[21:18] <linuxlove> hey guys
[21:19] <linuxlove> i am going to run an exe file in my ubuntu with wine
[21:19] <oerheks> linuxlove, join #winehq for application help
[21:19] <oerheks> !wine
[21:19] <oerheks> .. as we don't
[21:21] <MohaAhm> It didn't work
[21:21] <MohaAhm> Still slow boot
[21:21] <delinquentme> I have a windows 8 computer that I would like to dual-boot with both windows 8 and ubuntu 16 ... using GRUB as the bootloader.  But windows 8 has decided to take over the bootloader.  I would like to un-screw this windows "fix"... and restore GRUB as the primary bootloader.  Whats the easiest way to do this?
[21:21] <V7> Hey all ;)
[21:21] <pavlos> MohaAhm: and systemd-analyze blame says sda5 takes over 1 min
[21:22] <V7> I have this: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. at random time
[21:22] <MohaAhm> yes
[21:22] <Bashing-om> !grub | delinquentme
[21:22] <pavlos> MohaAhm: maybe alkisg has some ideas ...
[21:22] <delinquentme> yayaya Bashing-om Thankyou
[21:23] <MohaAhm> pavlos
[21:23] <MohaAhm> Actually nno
[21:23] <MohaAhm> no
[21:23] <pavlos> MohaAhm: do tell ...
[21:23] <MohaAhm> The sda entry is completely gone
[21:23] <MohaAhm> from output of blame
[21:23] <MohaAhm> !
[21:23] <pavlos> MohaAhm: paste the blame output
[21:24] <V7> So anyone ?
[21:24] <MohaAhm> Ok
[21:24] <V7> Just after RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. no wifi
[21:24] <V7> It just appears and WiFi card just disables
[21:25] <Bashing-om> delinquentme: :) . Here we are to help, in the case of need .
[21:25] <MohaAhm> http://termbin.com/hhbh
[21:26] <pavlos> MohaAhm: systemd-analyze gives you one line, summary. Can you paste that?
[21:26] <pavlos> MohaAhm: like, Startup finished in 5.031s (kernel) + 1min 6.402s (userspace) = 1min 11.433s
[21:26] <MohaAhm> Startup finished in 7.853s (kernel) + 1min 18.027s (userspace) = 1min 25.880s
[21:27] <MohaAhm> Is that good?
[21:27] <jeremy31> V7 see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108 and show us the pastebin link with results
[21:27] <V7> pasteibin ?
[21:27] <pavlos> MohaAhm: well, you're 1m 25s, I'm 1m 11s
[21:29] <MohaAhm> Ok
[21:29] <V7> Roger
[21:30] <MohaAhm> I will reboot it again to see if I notice any difference
[21:37] <oerheks> jeremy31, don't wait, V7 is just having fun in ##linux
[21:37] <oerheks> now he read this, hahaha
[21:37] <MohaAhm> Well
[21:38] <MohaAhm> the sda.service has returned
[21:38] <MohaAhm> 59 seconds
[21:38] <MohaAhm> http://termbin.com/cc5u
[21:41] <pavlos> MohaAhm: is 59s better than before? cant remember the old pastebin
[21:46] <pavlos> MohaAhm: if you create a /forcefsck empty file, upon next reboot it should fsck your system and figure out issues with sda5 (if any)
[21:50] <V7> oerheks: ?
[21:51] <V7> I'm here, who's jeremy31 ?
[21:51] <V7> Oh I see
[21:51] <V7> I've already bookmarked this page
[21:51] <V7> And I'll upload it after some time
[21:51] <V7> Sorry for missspeaking, but thank you very much jeremy31 ;)
[21:51] <oerheks> v7 good job, let volunteers wait, and having fun in other channel(s)
[21:52] <Bashing-om> pavlos: '/ forcefsck ' still functional in systemd on ubuntu ? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fsck .
[21:52] <V7> oerheks: Oh dear ...
[21:52] <V7> My fault
[21:53] <jeremy31> V7 I am just a Ubuntuforums moderator that specializes in wireless issues
[21:53] <pavlos> Bashing-om: trying it now ...
[21:54] <jeremy31> V7 I may not be chili555 but I think he is on vacation
[21:55] <V7> Who's ?
[21:55] <theorem> Err:1 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jgeboski/xUbuntu_16.04  purple-facebook 20170916~af391dc~9ff9acf9fa14~135
[21:55] <theorem>   404  Not Found [IP: 195.135.221.134 80
[21:55] <V7> jeremy31: You mean oerheks ?
[21:55] <theorem> that seems like a weird error, the ip there has port 80 open
[21:55] <dedondesta> how is the torrent client with web gui called?
[21:55] <V7> deluge
[21:55] <theorem> dedondesta: delugew
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> dedondesta  deluge
[21:55] <V7> Me first !
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> theorem  was faster
[21:55] <V7> oh
[21:55] <V7> INTERNET WTH ?
[21:55] <theorem> faster and got his name :)
[21:56] <dedondesta> web gui?
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> and V7 even more so
[21:56] <dedondesta> MonkeyDust: does it support web gui?
[21:56] <theorem> yes
[21:56] <V7> https://i.imgur.com/yAgjxSJ.png
[21:57] <theorem> has me ahead here
[21:57] <gebbione> do you know how to activate changes to logrotate ?
[21:57]  * theorem shrugs
[21:57] <V7> changes ?
[21:58] <gebbione> i have set logs to have dates in the name when rotating but it has not changed
[21:58] <dedondesta> theorem: is is deluge-web or deluge-webui?
[21:58] <delinquentme> Bashing-om the repair seemes to have failed.
[21:59] <delinquentme> or at least thats what it said.
[21:59] <theorem> dedondesta: the second
[21:59] <dedondesta> theorem: thank you
[21:59] <gebbione> dateext
[21:59] <oerheks> dedondesta, transmission has a web gui too, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo#Web_Interface
[21:59] <theorem> wait ..
[21:59] <theorem> what are you trying to do ?
[21:59] <theorem> you want the exec ?
[21:59] <pavlos> Bashing-om: seems systemd handles it ... thx
[21:59] <dedondesta> theorem: i want to use local ip address in a browser and insert torrents via web
[22:00] <dedondesta> theorem: so that "remote" box downloads torrent
[22:00] <dedondesta> theorem: deluge-webui is the way to go?
[22:00] <theorem> sudo systemctl status deluge-web.service
[22:00] <theorem> without the ui
[22:01] <dedondesta> oerheks: should i use transmission over deluge ?
[22:01] <oerheks> dedondesta, deluge is maybe a better choise, transmission is already available. all you need is to enable web in settings
[22:02] <dedondesta> cerion: i'm on ubuntu server, do i need to add ppa to install deluge?
[22:03] <oerheks> !info deluge
[22:03] <V7> !info transmission
[22:03] <V7> So 20 and 1
[22:04] <peterpp> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and my boot partition filled up because there are lots of old old kernel images
[22:05] <theorem> sudo apt autoremove
[22:05] <V7> peterpp: sudo apt autoremove ?
[22:05] <V7> OH DEAR
[22:05] <theorem> haha
[22:05] <peterpp> I tried to remove the old images but somehow never seem to get past the "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:" which does nothing because of a conflict apparently
[22:05]  * V7 highfives theorem
[22:05] <peterpp> V7, autoremove doesn't seem to do anything
[22:05]  * theorem offers a low-five to V7
[22:05] <theorem> TOO SLOW !
[22:05] <theorem> ;-)
[22:06] <peterpp> when I run autoremove I get: "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these."
[22:06] <V7> I was thinking about peterpp not fair enough )))
[22:06] <peterpp> linux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic but it is not installed
[22:06]  * V7 receives
[22:06] <V7> So what -f install returns ? peterpp
[22:07] <theorem> yikes
[22:07] <theorem> no force
[22:07] <theorem> not on a kernel
[22:07] <V7> +
[22:07] <peterpp> I actually did try that and nothing changed
[22:07] <theorem> space is empty, last install probably filled it up
[22:07] <theorem> will require removing some old file manually, then rerunning install
[22:08] <V7> Try dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[22:08] <peterpp> tried that
[22:08] <peterpp> nothing
[22:08] <V7> echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[22:08] <V7> ?
[22:08] <peterpp> imagine that, I actually googled before I came here ;-)
[22:08] <V7> This one was saved
[22:09] <theorem> I suggest manually selecting the oldest kernel
[22:09] <black_13> how do i tell if an http server is sitting on port 5674
[22:09] <theorem> take a copy of it somewhere, then cat /dev/null > file
[22:09] <theorem> black_13: lsof -n | grep 5674
[22:10] <V7> HaTo list all kernels: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[22:11] <V7> peterpp: Do you remember what you have done before that ?
[22:11] <V7> I mean before you've notcied that you can't remove these kernels ?
[22:11] <black_13> theorem: nothing
[22:12] <peterpp> V7, I was going to remove the version of nodejs from the package manager install node via nvm... and then nothing worked
[22:12] <V7> black_13: What server are you running ?
[22:12] <peterpp> *to install node via nvm
[22:12] <V7> Hm ... I'm trying to get it how this nodejs depends on kernel ...
[22:13] <theorem> black_13: try as root
[22:13] <adrian_1908> Isn't the nodejs apt package fairly invasive? Maybe something went wrong there during removal?
[22:13] <black_13> its from a software called joshua
[22:14] <V7> Joshua Aaron Server ?
[22:15] <black_13> https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/tree/master/demo
[22:15] <V7> This's apache
[22:15] <V7> I don't know about joshua, but try: sudo service apache status
[22:16] <V7> or sudo service apache2 status
[22:17] <adrian_1908> V7: I don't think so. It's an Apache project, but not related to the webserver from what I can tell.
[22:17] <V7> Fair enough
[22:18] <adrian_1908> black_13: So does it not work as desired, or why the desire to check if it's listening on that port?
[22:20] <V7> He left
[22:20] <peterpp> I've begun deleting stuff in /boot/ and things seem to look good
[22:20] <V7> o.o
[22:20] <V7> We hope that you'll be able to restart your machine after that
[22:20] <Bashing-om> peterpp: How are you deleting ? I hope not behind the package manager's back .
[22:21] <peterpp> that's exactly what I'm doing
[22:21] <peterpp> this was recommended here https://gist.github.com/ipbastola/2760cfc28be62a5ee10036851c654600
[22:21] <adrian_1908> Bashing-om: I think we arrived there since nothing else seemed to work for him.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> peterpp: K. a bit of extra effort .. but fixable .
[22:21]  * V7 pokes Package Manager
[22:22] <peterpp> why is the boot patition so small by default?
[22:23] <peterpp> my system has several terabytes of disk space perhaps making the boot partition a little larger than 500 mb would have been worth it
[22:23] <V7> Why it needs to be big ?
[22:23] <peterpp> well
[22:24] <peterpp> because old kernel images seem to pile up
[22:24] <peterpp> and are not automatically removed
[22:25] <V7> ^ something was worng. This's not a usual sistuation
[22:25] <frostschutz> peterpp, apt-get autoremove --purge (or similar) should take care of old kernels, w/o manually choosing which to delete
[22:25] <peterpp> it actually happened on my coworkers computer at work some weeks ago
[22:26] <peterpp> "depmod: FATAL: could not load /boot/System.map-4.4.0-64-generic: No such file or directory
[22:26] <peterpp> "
[22:27] <peterpp> this is apt noticing that something's missing
[22:27] <V7> pathetic
[22:27] <V7> peterpp: You got this now ?
[22:27] <peterpp> what do you mean?
[22:27] <peterpp> I copied this line from the terminal if that's your question
[22:28] <frostschutz> you should fix that unless you want it to come back and haunt you
[22:28] <peterpp> but apt continues unabashed
[22:28] <peterpp> how would I fix it?
[22:28] <frostschutz> which kernel are you currently on? (uname -a)
[22:29] <peterpp> 4.4.0-92
[22:30] <peterpp> everything seems to work well enough for the time being, thanks everybody
[22:31] <V7> peterpp: Try to reboot
[22:31] <peterpp> no
[22:32] <V7> TrY To REBooT !
[22:32] <peterpp> it's a server that's been running for a year
[22:33] <V7> oh dear
[22:33] <V7> Have you removed all of this remotly ?
[22:33] <peterpp> maybe I can just keep it running ;-)
[22:33] <frostschutz> peterpp, you could try like apt-get install --reinstall linux-image{,-extra}-4.4.0-64-generic and then uninstall it afterwards
[22:33] <peterpp> yes
[22:33] <peterpp> frostschutz, ah I'll try that, thanks
[22:33] <V7> Oh dear ... I saw it ... I saw that someone was removing kernels on server remotly
[22:34] <Bashing-om> peterpp: insurance: what shows ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' Now what needs fixing ?
[22:35] <peterpp> Bashing-om, it doesn't report any errors if that's what you're asking?
[22:36] <V7> peterpp: Have you done dist-upgrade ?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> peterpp: Yeah .. no errors .. good deal :)
[22:36] <peterpp> V7, it's not as dramatic... I have backups of everything and could just reset the image in the event that it doesn't boot
[22:36] <V7> Yeah, but ... risky btw
[22:36] <peterpp> V7, no, no dist upgrade
[22:36] <V7> peterpp: Try yo
[22:38] <peterpp> V7, I won't yo
[22:38] <V7> yo yo ?
[22:39] <V7> Btw it's hardly recommended for dist-upgrade, but you have a choice
[22:39] <Bashing-om> !dist-upgrade | peterpp
[22:39] <peterpp> ah
[22:47] <delinquentme> Ok Cool so I just followed the guide at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and my system is messed up in a new way.
[22:48] <delinquentme> I want to run Windows 8 and ubuntu 16 ... with GRUB as the single boot manager, Ubuntu 16 as a default operating system... and grub with no mention of anything realted to "windows UEFI"
[22:48] <delinquentme> I want two options on GRB bootup: Ubuntu ( as the default ) and Window.
[22:49] <oerheks> !uefi
[22:50] <Bashing-om> delinquentme: Are both win8 and ubuntu installed in EFI mode ? // What can you boot to at this time ?
[22:51] <delinquentme> I dont know what "in EFI mode" entails.  I know that windows 8 was the default OS ... I had installed 16.04 over top ... and windows "repaired" the boot manager.
[22:51] <delinquentme> I ran the boot repair tool and it said it encountered an error. I have the logs from all of that
[22:53] <delinquentme> but now I think I am only able to boot into windows... but im verifying.  Also GRUB has a number of new entries 3 of which begin with "EFI/"
[23:19] <V7> What do you have enabled in BIOS settings (Boot section)
[23:20] <V7> Do you have there Legacy or what ?
[23:53] <delinquentme> cool so now my live boot usb doesnt work.
[23:54] <Bashing-om> delinquentme: Ouch ; verify how/what you are booting in the firmware (bios) settings .