[04:44] <knome> oh, this is the requests channel!
[04:44] <knome> i request somebody massages my back
[04:44] <knome> (:
[04:45] <flocculant> 0_0
[04:45] <knome> hello flocculant 
[04:45] <knome> and good morning
[04:45] <flocculant> I request someone to massage some thing else - but not from people here :D
[04:45] <knome> guess you didn't expect to see me here this early
[04:45] <knome> and not on this channel :P
[04:45] <flocculant> :D
[04:45] <flocculant> nope not at all :)
[13:05] <bluesabre> thanks flocculant 
[20:35] <flocculant> np - you did the work :D
[20:39] <bluesabre> hi flocculant 
[20:39] <bluesabre> and others
[20:39] <bluesabre> working on the release notes, http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-17-10
[20:39] <bluesabre> shew, ochosi hopped right on them
[20:40] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: new kernel should fix the kvm issue - our next build 
[20:40] <flocculant> release notes? or announcement?
[20:40] <ochosi> nice work bluesabre 
[20:40]  * ochosi is currently a little distracted restoring files out of lost+found
[20:40] <flocculant> oh deary deary me
[20:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: both maybe?
[20:41] <flocculant> bluesabre: shrug :) probably release note material rather than announcement 
[20:41] <flocculant> imo
[20:41] <bluesabre> yeah
[20:41] <flocculant> https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/17.10/release-notes
[20:41] <bluesabre> Too much for announcement
[20:41] <flocculant> is already there - so you could use that 
[20:42] <bluesabre> Yeah
[20:42] <flocculant> I've still got to clean that up for next week obviously
[20:42] <bluesabre> Thankfully, I think most of what I wrote was not already written :D
[20:42] <flocculant> yup
[20:43] <flocculant> for 'most' of the cycle it's just real simple for the 3 or 4 people who look :D
[20:43] <ochosi> flocculant: how is this bugreport still open? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1644917 upstream it was marked as fixed already and i thought it has been released too..?
[20:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1644917 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Label missing from indicator-plugin clear option" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: also all that you wrote on pad - none of that I would have written :D
[20:44] <bluesabre> Seemed like useful/relevant details
[20:44] <flocculant> yea it is
[20:44] <flocculant> ochosi: I never have a clue how launchpad works 
[20:45] <bluesabre> (nobody does)
[20:45] <Unit193> 'weather plugin bug' fixed.
[20:45] <flocculant> ochosi: also can't check - no indicator-plugin
[20:45] <flocculant> Unit193: I know :)
[20:45] <flocculant> oh hang on - that was the other install :p
[20:46] <flocculant> ochosi: ok, bus isn't fixed here
[20:46] <flocculant> hangs are still cold
[20:46] <flocculant> oh sigh :(
[20:46] <bluesabre> ochosi: might be because that plugin hasn't had a release in nearly 3 years
[20:46] <ochosi> pfff
[20:46] <ochosi> well at least we could've picked up the patch i guess
[20:47] <ochosi> but we can also poke andrzejr into making a release
[20:47] <Unit193> I get a mouse over on the clear button...
[20:47] <Unit193> ochosi: Would be good to get Ayatana support first.
[20:47] <ochosi> even if we want to replace it in the next release
[20:47] <flocculant> ochosi: took the words out of my hands :D
[20:48] <bluesabre> yeah
[20:50] <ochosi> hmpf, annoying to have such a bug in the release, but well, at least it's not LTS
[20:51] <ochosi> i can't reproduce this one anymore: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1683857
[20:51] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1683857 in greybird-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) "Terminal border doubles when more than 1 tab" [Undecided,Triaged]
[20:51] <flocculant> ochosi: I would have checked at b2 time to see that bug
[20:51] <ochosi> and i think it was resolved somehow in the terminal itself
[20:52] <ochosi> or i really fixed it in greybird
[20:52] <ochosi> don't remember now...
[20:52] <flocculant> my trouble is generally using our ppa's - then not double checking the iso state 
[20:53] <ochosi> mhm, understandable
[20:53] <ochosi> at least in 17.04 i don't see the 2px terminal border
[20:53] <flocculant> I don't see it 'here' 
[20:54] <flocculant> by Thursday the rel note will be up to date
[20:54] <flocculant> also I have issues with kvm currently so booting it and using it is a royal pain
[20:56] <ochosi> this one i can confirm and it's not a greybird issue at least: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sgt-launcher/+bug/1670610
[20:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1670610 in sgt-launcher (Ubuntu) "Menu bar greyed out" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:56] <ochosi> (not sure if that makes it "better", but at least i'm not the one who has to fix it ;))
[20:56] <flocculant> lol
[20:57] <bluesabre> Yup
[20:57] <bluesabre> Still not sure what the right way is to fix that, other than eat the menubar and have it displayed by the app
[20:58] <flocculant> oh - the other sgt bug appears to now be invalid as there's no preferences at all :)
[20:58] <bluesabre> Yup
[20:58] <bluesabre> :D
[20:58] <bluesabre> Can't click what you can't see
[20:58] <ochosi> haha, well done
[20:58] <ochosi> i'll fix all my future bugs like that
[20:58] <bluesabre> I might use that for future fixes
[20:58] <flocculant> ha ha ha awesome :)
[20:59] <flocculant> we can just immediately mark everything invalid :p
[20:59] <bluesabre> parole video bugs... rename to "Parole Audio Player"
[20:59] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[20:59] <ochosi> lol
[20:59] <ochosi> well, as my script is walking the lost+found md5 hashes on its own now i guess i'll be on my way for the night
[21:00] <flocculant> night night then :)
[21:00] <ochosi> nighty!
[21:00] <bluesabre> nighty ochosi
[21:00] <ochosi> and thanks for putting together the RN, they already look quite good to me
[21:00] <ochosi> it actually makes 17.10 feel like a much more worthwhile release than it felt during its development time
[21:00] <flocculant> :)
[21:01] <flocculant> was a funny one for sure
[21:01] <ochosi> but i guess the good thing is that much of the upstream work has arrived
[21:01] <ochosi> although in 18.04 that'll be much more fun still
[21:01] <ochosi> especially looking forward to the discussion which 4.13 components we'll pick
[21:02] <flocculant> bluesabre: re your comment a while back, push people to test artful+ppa's. I like that one - but obviously will need to know which ppa's and have them actually available
[21:03] <bluesabre> flocculant: yeah, will need to think on that a bit more, but definitely interested in going that direction
[21:03] <flocculant> we can haz chat closer to the time 
[21:05] <flocculant> anyway - need to chill out now - cya all later 
[21:06] <bluesabre> Sure thing, have a good night flocculant 
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