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notdanielso at several points throughout the day, i'll start seeing this happening for periods of time: https://hastebin.com/kexoyunaba00:00
notdanieli have 2 laptops running xenial, both see this in the logs, one of them is fine, but the other (main one) seems to totally lose connectivity for much of the time when those changes are happening so rapidly00:00
notdanielnot sure if the router is actually doing something wrong, or if i have a driver issue or something00:01
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pijama_boyHey guys, anyone know how install bumblee nvidia drivers? I installed the packages through synaptic...are they suppose to show up under additional drivers?00:04
delinquentmeBashing-om, would ... making a new file on a live-boot USB drive corrupt the live-bootability of the usb?00:06
Bashing-ompijama_boy: Why BumbleBee ? It has been depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .00:07
pijama_boyI'm attempting to solve v-sync problems when using the nvidia gpu00:08
Bashing-omdelinquentme: Depends . Was the USB made as persistent ?00:09
delinquentmeno idea00:09
pijama_boyBashing-om: do you know how to deal with v-syn...?00:11
Bashing-ompijama_boy: I have seen some turorials in that respect .. lemme see what I can fetch up for you .00:14
pijama_boyBashing-om: thank you, I tried a couple...most of them suggest to change the advance config in nvidia x server but those options are not available to me (at least through gui)00:18
pijama_boyBashing-om: and to be honest fumbling around with my xorg config seemed risky00:19
oerheksnvidia settings, vsync to vblank?00:19
oerheksin OpenGl settings, that is00:19
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SicnusHey guys... what is the best WiFi Adapter (USB wireless) for Ubuntu?  The RealTek one I have is crappy and cuts in and out all the freaking time.  I'm looking for something to be rock solid stable.00:23
pijama_boyoerheks: open gl tab in nvidia x server?00:23
oerheksexample https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cn9IroOyw5E/WCS83c-14SI/AAAAAAAABVI/zX7hJfrpC7UbjwirIj_kJU9Mxut56iC9gCLcB/s1600/NVIDIA%2BX%2BServer%2BSettings_001.png00:25
lordcirth17.04: So my GTX 1060 broke and I swapped in a GT 650.  The fan stays at 21% no matter what and overheats/throttles in games.00:25
pijama_boyoerheks: gonna switch back to nvidia gpu, reboot and try00:27
StickyNipplesanyone have problems running 3 monitors with ubuntu? any glitches or lag?00:29
oerhekslordcirth, did you rerun lmsensors detect?00:29
delinquentmeso still cant boot into a bootable live CD but I can now get back into ubuntu ... using GRUB and advanced boot ... booting into a "Ubuntu, w linux 4.4* "00:29
lordcirthoerheks, I did not; I'll try that now00:31
pijama_boyoerheks, i dont have the gui option to sync to vblank, all I have under my opengl settins i quality and "conformant texture clamping"00:32
oerhekspijama_boy, strange..00:33
pijama_boyoerheks, i cant take a screenshot : ( maybe I need to update my open gl?00:34
ghostnik11Hey i am trying to install linux and android x86 along side windows. But the thing is when i go to installation set up it doesnt give me the option to install along side windows instead i have to manually go to set up something different00:34
oerhekspijama_boy,  you did use the driver menu in ubuntu?00:34
ghostnik11I want to know if i shpuld just go into gparted from live disk and reduce size of sda3 so that i can shrink the windows partition00:34
pijama_boyoerheks, I'm using proprietary drivers nvidia375.66... I used the nvidia x server settings00:35
lordcirthoerheks, re-ran sensors-detect and rebooted; idle on desktop the nvidia-settings GUI reports 43C and 21% fan; RPM "not supported"00:36
pijama_boyoerheks, here's a screenshot https://pasteboard.co/GOXZc4m.png00:37
lordcirthoerheks, 'sensors' only shows  asus-isa-0000 with cpu_fan: 0 rpm00:37
lordcirthThat seems odd, my CPU temp showed before00:38
oerhekspijama_boy, strange that the option is removed, sure it is not located in an other tab?00:41
oerheksnvidia 375.66 .. dit you install them from the nvidia site??00:42
oerheksi don't see them here https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa nor here https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu00:43
pijama_boyI think it got downloaded by ubuntu during installation00:43
pijama_boyoerheks, hmm thats weird00:43
oerheksunlikely, you would get the nouveau driver standard, and take some action to install the nvidia prop driver00:44
pijama_boyoerheks, I think they were just there in the additional drivers panel00:46
pijama_boyoerheks, I'm sure I didn't downloaded them from the nvidia website00:46
oerhekspijama_boy, that would be the correct way, but i don't see them there .. what happens when you run: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ??00:47
pijama_boyoerheks, 4 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.00:48
pijama_boysudo: aptfull: command not found00:48
pijama_boyListing... Done00:51
pijama_boyboot-repair/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]00:51
pijama_boyboot-sav/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]00:51
pijama_boyboot-sav-extra/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]00:51
pijama_boyglade2script/xenial,xenial 3.2.3~ppa4 all [upgradable from: 3.2.3~ppa3]00:51
oerhekssudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade00:55
oerheksaptfull is your typo00:55
pijama_boyoerheks, ops sorry01:03
pijama_boyoerheks, it's been a long day01:03
pijama_boydone, should I log out and check?01:04
oerheksdid you get any update ?01:05
oerheks(nvidia)01:06
pijama_boyoerheks, nope, run "nvidia" search on terminal, no results01:08
jeranyone have an apple magic keyboard (bluetooth) working with function keys?01:22
jerand i mean the media keys sorry, not the fn key01:22
Droid2UbuntuGood wevening01:29
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Cryptofunhey guyes01:54
Cryptofunguys* n girls801:54
Cryptofunubstart if not self install , its compremise sign601:54
Droid2UbuntuI can't neleive that Ubuntu no longer supports open sound system02:10
Cryptofun?%02:12
Cryptofunwhat is a ' open sound system ' :P looks very interesting :)02:12
Cryptofunu mean a matrix ? :P02:12
Droid2UbuntuIit was the old hand me down from old school unix!02:14
Droid2UbuntuYa know freebsd opensolars hpunix and the like02:14
Cryptofunim new to ub. from 2 day old , alrdy used a shel to fix dd 15 year ago02:14
Cryptofunwit net strap , but thats alll02:15
bcowanhow in the hell do you get a sane bash prompt in a chroot with ubuntu02:34
Cryptofunbcowan?02:36
Cryptofunu tellin ths to me or? :)02:36
Cryptofunim new 2 day old xp to ubuntu =/02:36
bcowanno Cryptofun02:38
Bashing-ombcowan: After the mounts and/or binds .. did you run something akin02:39
Bashing-ombcowan: akin to ' sudo chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash ' ?02:40
bcowanBashing-om, I'm super familiar with chroot, I have many distros and things running chrooted, just ubuntu has some dunbass PS1 in thier .bashrc02:44
bcowanjust complaining P02:45
catbeardhello, need some help figuring out why my HOSTS file won't work02:47
Bashing-ombcowan: Often helps to have a sounding board for the "complaining" :) Gets the mind right, no ?02:47
bcowanBashing-om, yes, exactly02:47
catbeardit should work but it doesn't02:48
bcowancatbeard, be nicer to your guests file02:49
catbeardrunning dnsmasq/nscd and over vpn, ssh port forward 127.0.0.1:xxxx locally and foxyproxy configured for socks5 for 127.0.0.1:xxxx, should resolve to the same ip either way, and the /etc/hosts on the ssh server is set to the same thing, so i know it's not that02:50
catbeardi put a file on a website i'm working on so i'd know if i'm hitting the dev server02:50
catbeardso far that file is 40402:50
bcowansounds more like sshd_conf02:53
bcowan?02:53
bcowanallot of variables with that setup jeeze02:56
bcowanlets fly around three islands, over a mountain, and through a tunnel and maybe we can see a smoke signal02:58
pijama_boyHey guys, anyone know how to fix v-sync problems with nvidia cards?03:00
ReedK0does ubuntu have a high-contrast mode?03:11
[n0mad]yes, settings > universal access > high contrast mode03:14
ReedK0I thought holding tab brought up a list of hotkeys, but after first-run I wasn't able to make that happen03:15
ReedK0at first run03:15
ReedK0high-contrast changes my resolution to a resolutino that makes system settings out-of-virew03:15
pijama_boyReedK0,  hold your super key (windows key)03:16
ReedK0the high-contrast profile also works, but it changes the resolution.03:18
ReedK0Actually the universal access version doesn't thank you.03:19
[n0mad]not sure why that would be. high contrast works fine for me and doesn't change my resolution03:20
ReedK0at the top-right there's a man in a circle it's a profiles button03:20
[n0mad]that's probably the always show universal access menu option that's also in settings > universal access03:22
plongshotHas anyone installed eclipse from the latest package from the eclipse site? I tried everyting I know to do ( which isn't mucfh ) last night and have it to where it will launch from the command line and a desktop icon appears in desktop search and is placed on the launcher, but it will not launch from the icon. Can enyone tell me what I'm kissing here? Why isn't launching from the icon working? Here is somei informatino that may help if anyone is interestd03:23
plongshotto help me.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25742992/  * I have about a half hour to work on it but I don't think it would take that long03:23
plongshotThanks in advance for any help / guidance03:24
plongshotBtw, I did try addin percent U at the end of the Exec= line and to make the eclipse.ini file executable by all of ugo ( problem still persists )03:25
oerheksplongshot, use full path for exec , example https://askubuntu.com/questions/281293/creating-a-desktop-file-for-a-new-application03:30
plongshotoerheks: Thanks.  The Exec line in that example contains a space followed by a ./  and the executable name. Is that right to do?03:33
plongshotAnd what are these " -ui -c %F " flags? Do I need any kind of flags?03:34
oerheksplongshot, dunno about special start conditions of that 'ugene'03:35
oerheksand scroll down for the desktop-entry-spec03:35
plongshotoerheks: Oh, I thik I see what you mean - the flags are application specific not Exec specific?03:36
plongshotthanks03:36
oerheksjups03:36
oerhekshave fun!03:36
gbear14275I accidentally renamed my boot lvm VG without updating grub and now keep dropping into busybox.  I think I can edit the boot params from the grub menu but the naming scheme is confusing me.  Can someone point me to how the grup boot params are named with regard to vg's and lv's?03:47
Cryptofunhey guys03:55
Cryptofuni have ultimate ub. nub question :P03:55
Cryptofun1st pid is normal ?03:55
Cryptofunhttps://i.imgur.com/vm3dXOk.png03:55
oerheksCryptofun, with 2 zombie processes? sure03:57
pijama_boythis is terrible, ended up trying to manually edit xorg.conf, got the system jammed into low graphics mode and now the nvidia x server dialog is all messed up03:59
Ben64pijama_boy: sounds about right04:00
pijama_boyBen64, *thumbs up*04:00
Ben64it'd help fix your issue if you went into more detail04:01
pijama_boyBen64, been trying to fix vsync in browser, on laptop with nvidia + intel gpu04:02
pijama_boynot even minor vsync, not trying to play videogames, youtube videos are barely watchable : \04:03
Ben64sounds more like a browser issue04:03
pijama_boygood call, gonna check playing a video file04:04
Cryptofunchromium pijama_boy?04:04
pijama_boyfirefox and chrome04:05
pijama_boyaffecting video player too04:05
pijama_boywith an .mp4 file04:05
Ben64try mplayer04:06
pijama_boywill do, gotta go to bed now, my wife is starting to get upset04:06
pijama_boyjust wanted to vent my frustration mostly04:07
pijama_boyI guess I ran out of time, trying to fix this problem, tonight04:07
pijama_boythank you for your help guys04:07
pijama_boywill give it another shot tomorrow04:08
Evi1R0BHello04:24
Dreamanhttps://imgur.com/a/kq6qb  pijama_boy  i use 8k no problem04:30
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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:34
slimetraphi !!!!06:10
EriC^^hi06:10
slimetrapwhat's a great service to use for ubuntu backups? i was thinking about getting a digitalocean vps and backup via ssh06:11
lotuspsychje!backup | slimetrap06:12
ubottuslimetrap: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning06:12
slimetrapno i mean06:14
slimetrapi'm going to use the default ubuntu backup thingy and i was gonna use some ssh provider06:14
slimetrapfor offsite backups06:14
slimetrapof certain files06:14
xcom169hello All!06:20
xcom169Anyone here can help me in kernels?06:20
macksfieldAnyone have any ideas on why my case audio lines are working [headphones], but back direct motherboard audio connections are not? [speakers]06:22
macksfieldI'm an ubuntu noob, looking for some leads so I can google-fu06:22
Bashing-omxcom169: State the issue, see what we can do .06:25
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knightwisemorning everyone07:03
knightwisehow are you guys doing ?07:03
bazhangknightwise, here for ubuntu support?07:05
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Gusteruhello, anyone can help me with this ? https://prnt.sc/gxlrh7 I want to downgrade from 7.0.22 to 5.3.27 . Thank you !08:02
xcom169hello all!08:04
xcom169Do you know what it can be if my screen is blank, and only the cursor blinking during restart?08:05
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scoopexi am using a ubuntu 16.04 system which runs its root partition (includes /grub) on a sofware-raid-1 and lvm. after i changed one disk grub halts with the message like "...cannot find disk lvmid/UUID-OF_THE-DISK"....i alread perfomed grub-install/update-grub on the system but had no luck to repair the system.....08:50
Gusteruhttps://prnt.sc/gxm14o what I need to do ?08:51
scoopexany hints?08:52
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AndroUsercan someone guide me through adding swap space permanently09:30
EriC^^AndroUser: are you trying to make a swap partition or swap file?09:30
AndroUserpartition, it's already made and formatted.09:31
EriC^^AndroUser: ok, type "lsblk -fs | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link09:31
EriC^^AndroUser: type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 as well09:32
AndroUsertermbin.com/2hty09:33
EriC^^AndroUser: type nano /etc/fstab and add the line "UUID=327d218a-1bf2-4152-95ad-d3fe69bc570d none swap sw 0 0"09:34
EriC^^*sudo nano /etc/fstab09:34
AndroUsertermbin.com/slsn209:34
AndroUsernano is CLI right?09:35
EriC^^yeah09:35
AndroUsermeh.. alright09:35
AndroUserincluding or not including quotes?09:36
EriC^^AndroUser: without quotes09:38
AndroUsermy fstab has the UUID of my old swap partition (commented out)09:40
AndroUsersafe to just replace?09:40
EriC^^AndroUser: yeah09:40
nickmanHi09:43
nickmanI want to access terminal from my android phone. How can I ?09:44
AndroUserdoes the quantity of spaces between each item matter?09:44
AndroUsernickman, download any "terminal emulator" from Google play09:44
ikonianickman: ask in #android09:45
nickmanI want to open one port09:45
ikonianickman: ask in #android09:45
nickmanAnd then access softwares from my os09:45
ikonianickman: ask in #android09:45
AndroUsereric?09:46
AndroUserhow do I exit nano while keeping changes?09:47
nickmanI want to access my Ubuntu's terminal not any other terminal availed by emulator09:47
nickmanCtrl + x androuser09:47
ikonianickman: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?09:47
ikonianickman: android is not ubunt, we don't support it here09:47
nickmanikonia wait09:48
ikonianickman: so if you need help configuring your android device, please ask in #android09:48
nickmanLets someone other handle my question09:48
ikonianickman: no09:48
nickmanIf you don't understand09:48
ikonianickman: ask in #android09:48
ikonianickman: or explain how this is anything to do with #ubuntu09:48
nickmanYou are making me really irritated09:48
nickmanI have written there i want to access my Ubuntu's terminal09:49
ikonianickman: option a.) ask in #android option b.) explain how your question is anything to do with #ubuntu09:49
nickmanWhich is installed on my laptop09:49
ikonianickman: ok - so you need port 22 open on your ubuntu machine and the sshd daemon running on your ubuntu machine09:49
ikonianickman: you can manage that with ufw09:49
nickmanAnd on android ?09:50
ikoniaask in #android09:50
ikoniayou need port 22 outbound09:50
ikoniahow you do that the a09:50
nickmanWhere to type my command09:50
ikoniahow you do that the #android guys will tell you09:50
ikonianickman: the #android guys will tell you how to configure your android device to ssh out09:50
greylinehi all09:51
greylinehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error09:51
greylinethe accepted answer doesn't solve my problem09:51
ikoniagreyline: just ask a question, don't post askubuntu links09:51
greylinesince after insmod normal I get back the original error message09:52
AndroUsershould fstab changes be saved in dos or mac format, and what key combo selects them? not quite sure if it's asking to press M and D or if they signify something else09:52
ikoniagreyline: if I wanted to support ask ubuntu I'd use askubuntu, so please explain what you want09:52
greylineokay09:52
greylineWhat to do when I get an “attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'” error?09:52
ikoniagreyline: outside of disk ?09:52
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greylineset root, set prefix and insmod normal doesn't solve my problem09:53
greylineikonia: yeah09:53
ikoniagreyline: what ??09:53
ikoniaset root ? set prefix ? what ar eyou talking about09:53
ikoniagreyline: what is your actual problem09:53
greylineikonia: that's why I linked that forum, but you said I shouldn't....09:53
ikoniagreyline: right, so "tell me" the problem09:53
ikoniagreyline: if I wanted to contribute to askubuntu, I would, but I don't see you have to engage with the IRC community on IRC09:54
ikoniagreyline: or wait for someone on askubuntu who gives you an answer you want09:54
greylineikonia: okay, so when I try to start the ubuntu, grub rescue starts and it says "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"09:54
AndroUserI could be completely wrong but it sounds like you may have tried moving the start sector of a partition, or have misaligned partition09:54
ikoniagreyline: so ubuntu won't boot and you get a grub error09:54
greylineikonia: yeah09:54
ikoniagreyline: so that warning is normally that it things the disk is different "shape" than it actually is09:55
ikoniaas AndroUser said it's trying to read data from "outside" where the disk actually is09:55
ikonia(and failing for obvious reasons)09:56
greylineikonia: no clicking sound from the hdd at all, and yesterday it worked perfectly09:56
ikoniagreyline: is the hard disk actually working ?09:57
greylineikonia: yesterday it was working perfectly (although I didn't checked that with any software, but the OS worked, and I could use that without problems)09:57
ikoniagreyline: is it working today09:58
ikoniagreyline: I'm not interested if it used to work09:58
greylineikonia: I don't know....09:58
ikoniagreyline: ok, so that would be a good thing to validate09:58
greylineikonia: okay, I figure out that somehow09:59
greylineikonia: I mean about how to validate that09:59
alkisgBoot from a live cd and see09:59
ikoniagreyline: boot a livecd and mount/interact with the disk09:59
alkisgFrom the live cd you can also reinstall grub09:59
ikoniagreyline: there are also hard disk tools09:59
AndroUser(AndroUser) should fstab changes be saved in dos or mac format, and what key combo selects them? not quite sure if it's asking to press M and D or if they signify something else10:00
alkisgIn linux format10:01
alkisgNot in dos, not in mac10:01
AndroUserthere is no linux format available10:01
alkisgUse nano, pluma, vi etc10:02
AndroUserget help, dos format, append, backup file10:02
AndroUserin the top row10:02
AndroUsercancel, mac format, prepend, to files10:02
AndroUserbottom row10:02
AndroUserthis is using nano10:03
alkisgThe default format is linux10:04
alkisgSo no worry about format10:04
AndroUserso what should I be doing at this screen =/10:04
AndroUserprevious person that was helping went silent at a potentially dangerous time for my floptop10:06
AndroUser*sigh10:08
akikAndroUser: don't change the format, just save it. you can check after saving that the line ending is a \n "od -c /etc/fstab"10:08
AndroUsernot quite sure how to go about checking that last bit, but I'm stuck in the process of trying to save changes. this is why I hate CLI lol10:10
AndroUseralready did CTRL + X and now I have no idea what keys it's asking me to press to "just save"10:10
AndroUserCLI is extremely esoteric10:10
greylinealkisg: okay, so should I reinstall the grub and check the disk itself?10:11
greylinealkisg: what commands should I use?10:11
akikAndroUser: press y10:11
EriC^^AndroUser: hey, sorry was away10:11
AndroUserthat changed file name to write to /etc/fstaby10:12
akikAndroUser: and after y, just press enter10:12
AndroUserI suppose backspace that "y" and hit enter lol10:12
akikloly10:12
AndroUsernow, sudo swapon? :)10:12
AndroUserthe suspense was killin me so I did the above. had no effect. no swap active :(10:15
akikAndroUser: you can run sudo swapon -a10:15
AndroUserbingo!10:16
alexashello i need to install windows along ubuntu how to do this with less pain, windows 7, i have solely ubuntu 18 on my laptop at the momnt10:17
alexasmoment*10:17
ikoniaI doubt you have ubuntu 18 on your lapotp10:17
akikthere's no ubuntu 1810:17
ikoniathe easy option is to install windows - then install ubuntu10:17
ikoniait will make it easier10:17
alexassorry ubuntu 17, no i can't do that10:18
alexasi would like to install windows along, i spend too much time configuring stuff10:18
alexasi can boot from usb and resize partition i think, right?10:18
alkisggreyline: yes sure you can try to reinstall grub10:19
alexasi only thinking about boot manager at the moment10:19
greylinealkisg: but how? sudo apt-get remove grub?10:19
alkisg!grub10:19
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub210:19
alkisgFirst link there should have enough info10:20
alexasalkisg: thank you i hope it will work10:20
alkisgalexas: actually I was talking to greyline, but that matches your case too :)10:20
alexasah well yeah10:21
AndroUserI have another question. I installed "apache2-bin" and "libapache2-mod-dnssd" a week ago and ever since, I've been getting system error pop ups "A problem has occurred" and occasionally "Ubuntu has experienced an internal error"10:32
AndroUserI have no proof they're the cause, but I'm fairly certain they're it.10:32
AndroUserabout to remove with synaptic, should I "remove" or "completely remove"10:33
lotuspsychjeAndroUser: when you get an internal error, you can unfold it to see whats it about10:34
AndroUseryes, I have. honestly I cannot remember what it said but the errors were literally brand new following these 2 installs, which are not included by default in Ubuntu10:36
AndroUserthey're for network folder sharing similar to Samba, but instead natively through Nautilus (and it's very buggy)10:37
AndroUserat any rate, I'm just going to try my luck at "remove"10:38
daxAndroUser: only difference is that "completely remove" also nukes any systemwide config files installed by the package10:39
AndroUserdang. think I should have done that instead? lol10:40
daxshouldn't matter much in this case10:41
AndroUserjust finished reboot. now to see if the errors cease10:41
AndroUserugh... nope10:42
AndroUserit's /usr/sbin/unity/greeter10:43
AndroUsermaybe this problem will resolve itself in 17.10 with unity going bye bye? :)10:43
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wook_unity is disappearing? WOOHOO!10:49
wook_what are they replacing it with? GNOME3?10:49
AndroUseryou must have consulted agent google10:49
daxwook_: yes10:51
daxhttps://didrocks.fr/ has a bunch of blog posts and screenshots about it10:52
Coolerhello11:03
Coolerhow do i access a folder i don't have perms for?11:03
Coolerfrom nautilus11:03
akikCooler: you need to provide more details11:03
akikno?11:06
akiki hope nothing bad happened to cooler11:16
EriC^^akik: he just encountered nautilus bug #4223 abduction by aliens11:23
ubottubug 4223 in qcad (Ubuntu) "no printers listed in print comand" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422311:23
tdk2feSo I was kinda curious as to how to actually get the wayland gnome-shell up and running in the 17.10 beta11:24
EriC^^ubottu is in on it, don't believe him ;)11:24
ubottuEriC^^: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:24
tdk2feseems my only options after the dist-upgrade is Unty on Xorg and Gnome on Xorg, then standard 'Unity'11:24
tdk2fe17.10 beta*11:25
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bryanfrommacauhi11:41
ducasse<117.10 | tdk2fe11:41
ducasse!17.10 | tdk2fe11:41
ubottutdk2fe: Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+111:41
Coolerakik: i try to access a folder in nautilus and it has a cross over its icon11:48
Coolerand when i click it i get a permission denied error11:48
Coolerhow do i open that folder?11:48
Coolerin the properties for the folder, it says i am not the owner11:49
BluesKajHiyas all11:49
akikCooler: are you familiar with the linux permission model?11:50
ducasse!permissions | Cooler11:50
ubottuCooler: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions11:50
Cooleryeah if you are the owner to can change who has access11:52
Coolerdo i have to use the terminal for this?11:53
Coolercan't i do this from nautilus?11:53
akikCooler: could you run "ls -ld problem_dir" that would make it clear what needs to be done11:53
Coolerdrwx--x--x 12 root root 4096 Oct 14 10:33 docker11:54
akikCooler: is that /var/lib/docker ? that's how it's supposed to be11:55
Coolerakik: yup /var/lib/docker11:56
Coolerstore the volumes inside that folder11:56
Cooleri need to access the volumes11:56
akikCooler: you can change to root with "sudo -i" and then access it11:57
Droid_Dolphin_WaHello all11:57
kunjiCooler: I mean... you probably could use nautilus, but running nautilus as root isn't really recommended.11:58
Coolerwell i want a gui interface11:59
akika gui interface for managing docker?11:59
Coolerto manage the volumes, put stuff inside them11:59
Coolerand take stuff out12:00
kunjiCooler: Docker isn't quite so straightforward as that....12:00
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Cooleri know, they like to complicate things for no reason12:00
akikCooler: try "sudo -i nautilus" if that works for you12:01
kunjiCooler: It isn't for no reason....  it's because they're trying to do container virtualization in an at least somewhat secure way.12:02
akikdocker is usually managed in the terminal/shell12:02
Droid_Dolphin_Wave thoughtI about viruakizing windows ten on topof Ubuntu 17.04 freshh install12:03
Droid_Dolphin_WaIs there a way ti share fi;le & printers between ubuntu and OSX other than samba?12:05
Cooleruh oh12:05
Cooleri somehow got rid of the taksbar12:05
Coolerthe taskbar12:05
kunjiCooler: You can't just write into a docker image in nautilus per se.... you could do what you're trying for a folder you subsequently mount to your docker image, but I see no need for root in that case.12:05
Coolerwhat key combination did i press?12:05
Coolerhow do i bring it back?12:05
Coolerthe launcher bar? on the left12:06
Droid_Dolphin_WaIs there a port of fluxbox for ubuntu?12:06
Coolerhelp12:06
kunjiCooler: No idea, which desktop manager are you using?  I still won't know but it will probably help someone else answer.12:06
akikDroid_Dolphin_Wa: yes it's called fluxbox :)12:06
Coolerubuntu 16.04 lts12:06
Coolergnome?12:06
Coolerunity i think12:07
Droid_Dolphin_Waakik: Its 17.04 testing for now12:07
kunjiCooler: I don't think there is a standard key combination to make it disappear....12:07
Cooleroh i just pressed f1112:08
Droid_Dolphin_WaBecause I can get m4p/ itunes music playback  with gstreamer plugins uglu12:08
Droid_Dolphin_WaBecause I can get m4p/ itunes music playback  with gstreamer plugins ugly ^^12:08
kunjiCooler: I would try saving everything you have open, then try logging out then back in.  Could be a GUI bug, did apport ask to send a bug report?12:08
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nickjjdoes anyone know how i can get ubuntu server to remember my gpg passphrase on every ssh login?12:44
nickjji vaguely remember using some gnome keyring util when i last installed ubuntu desktop like 4 years ago but i don't know if it'll work on the command line12:45
ReedK0what's gpg?12:46
nickjjReedK0, https://gnupg.org/12:47
lotuspsychje!gpg12:47
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts12:47
lotuspsychjenickjj: maybe also try the #ubuntu-server channel12:48
ReedK0question!  I'm starting a react.js project on my ubuntu server.  waht's a good location to store my project?12:48
nickjjlotuspsychje, thanks12:48
ReedK0any paid developer channel for ubuntu?12:49
lotuspsychjeReedK0: there's #ubuntu-devel but not sure for the paid part, maybe they know?12:50
jeremy31It would be on freenode IRC servers12:50
lotuspsychje!canonical | ReedK0 maybe check here also12:51
ubottuReedK0 maybe check here also: Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/12:51
wook_so i'm looking for some good suggestions for motherboards for a desktop that i want to build, i plan to use ubuntu server and maybe a virtual box win7, i want lots of slots for expansion, any suggestions?12:55
lotuspsychjewook_: perhaps try ##hardware better12:55
lotuspsychjewook_: ubuntu server would run on most hardware12:56
ReedK0canonical okay looking12:56
freakyyhow do i use snaps i mean, how do i find good apps packaged with snap?13:02
thrmoHey! If i were to install 17.10 Beta 2 after the final release of 17.10 would I have access to those repos?13:06
freakyythrmo: to which repos? if u install the beta u have access to the 17.10 repos which upgrade to latest version, release or later13:07
thrmoor the daily builds, for that matter.13:07
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freakyyu can apt update && apt upgrade && apt dist-upgrade and so update the packages to their latest current up2date version13:08
thrmofreakyy: my question is, will I be able to continue using it, or would i have to do a clean install?13:08
freakyyor use the ubuntu "updates" gui13:08
freakyyprogram13:08
thrmoty13:08
thrmoso should I go for daily or beta2?13:08
freakyythrmo: if u install 17.10 beta u can continue using it. u will always be able to update the packages to their latest current version13:09
freakyythrmo: id use daily that way u have bugfixes that might distur13:10
freakyyb ur13:10
lotuspsychje#ubuntu+1 for artful issues please13:10
freakyydisturb ur installation13:10
ReedK0is /srv/react a bad place for react projects?13:11
ikoniaReedK0: we went through this the other day with you13:11
ikoniaReedK0: a.) it's personal choice b.) you have wasted a partition covering /srv as a seperate partition13:11
ikonianone of the applications will use /srv by default so unless you manually re-configure them all to use /srv (including things like apparmor rules) it won't benifit from it13:12
freakyythrmo: so yes u will be able to continue that daily-build version and uipdate the packages to release and post release versions ;D13:12
ikoniathat said, you can store anything you want in /srv13:12
freakyy*continue to use13:12
thrmoty13:12
freakyysorry i just woke up ;D13:12
freakyythrmo: for example, im using 17.10 daily build right now. and i do upgrade my system daily so i have the latest versions, bugfixes, features etc. ;D13:13
thrmook, is unity still supported in 17.10?13:13
freakyyits supported i think. u may install it ive read somewhere. but it has some drawbacks like afaik its not actively developed anymore13:14
freakyyid use the gnome-shell stuff13:14
freakyyit looks good want a screenshot?13:14
freakyyunity was stopped beeing worked on13:14
freakyythey switched to gnome-shell13:14
freakyyin ubuntu 17.10 the first time13:14
freakyymerged ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu so to say13:15
thrmosure, show me a screenshot13:16
freakyyi find it was a good step. it looks all so cool now ;D13:16
freakyythrmo: wait13:16
ReedK0anyone? yes/no?13:16
freakyyhttps://www.freakyonline.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Ubuntu-17.10-2.png <-- here, ubuntu 17.10 on my laptop with some icon theme and cursor theme13:17
akikwhy does old kernel removal trigger the need for a system restart? (/var/run/reboot-required.pkgs contains "linux-base")13:17
ikoniaakik: I don't think it's "old kernel" I think it's "kernel change"13:17
ikoniaakik: it probably just gets caught as "kernel change" which would require  reboot13:17
akikikonia: i installed a new kernel and rebooted earlier, but now just removed an old kernel13:18
ikoniaakik: right, it's probably just a sloppy hook13:18
thrmothanks freakyy it has a very unity look to it13:19
freakyythrmo: yes and if u move the cursor into the upper left corner and click, it shows the gnome-shell :)13:19
freakyythrmo: btw, if u have questions about ubuntu 17.10 pls join #ubuntu+113:19
thrmosure, tks13:20
freakyynp ;D13:20
freakyyi love ubuntu ;D its the perfect os ... i mean, i play on windows but linux is just amazing especially ubuntu. i use ubuntu on my laptop, desktop and ubuntu-server on my server ;D13:21
Droid2BSDI've tried Freebsd/TrueOS. Debian and Windows but I keep comming back to Ubuntu so kudos to the ubuntu team13:26
freakyy;D13:26
Droid2BSDIs thers e a low latency kernel for 17.04/1013:27
freakyyyes ubuntu is really well done. it is userfriendly and has all the neat linux command line stuff aswell. its on top of debian so has the double of work13:27
freakyyi dont know13:27
noob_on_railshey all! , i just ran a 7z a foldername13:35
noob_on_railsis there any default place where 7z puts files?13:35
atomop7zip-full ?13:35
Tin_mannormally below the directory you ran the command.13:36
atomoyes yes13:36
noob_on_railshmm i thought the same too let me search again13:37
noob_on_railsand they do end at *.7z ?13:39
noob_on_railsah w/e i think ill re-run with destination13:40
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Odd_Hey. I'm trying to make a soft symlink between a file from one place to another. I'm currently running "sudo ln -s /home/user/folder/file.jar /home/user/folder/file.jar, where the second is the source with the name I want and the first is the target. As a response I get "failed to create symbolic link "second path": No such file or directory". Coul14:38
Odd_d someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?14:38
Odd_Tried to follow some guides online but I still seem to get the issue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯14:38
alkisgln -s target symlink14:38
lordcirthOdd_, sounds like the directory you're trying to make the link in doesn't exist14:39
alkisgYou have the same path in both target and dest14:39
lordcirthThat too, but I assumed you were just censoring it14:39
alkisg*and symlink14:39
Odd_It does though. Because I'm looking at it.14:39
Odd_Did censor paths, yeah.14:39
Odd_Usernames are different.14:40
lordcirthOdd_, sure you didn't typo it?  Any spaces or special characters in it?14:40
lordcirthOh, what about permissions, if it's different users?  Are you root?14:40
Odd_I'll write it again, for the fourth time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯14:40
Odd_Running with sudo. So should be rooted.14:40
lordcirthAnd you're using absolute paths like your example?14:41
wook_what's the difference between writing '&&' and ' | ' between commands?14:42
Odd_Uh. Rewrote it. It worked.14:42
lordcirthwook_, A && B means, run A, if it succeeds, run B.14:42
Odd_I can't see I wrote something wrong though.14:42
lordcirthwook_, A | B means run A, take its output, and feed it into B's input14:42
lordcirthwook_, A || B, which you might have meant, means run A, if it fails, run B.14:43
Cat_BPRMHello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this?14:43
wook_so if i run a wget for instance followed by a dpkg -i, when i ran it as && it couldn't figure it out, but if i had run wget ____ | dpkg -i _____ it would work?14:44
lordcirthwook_, && and || are in fact boolean AND and OR operators14:44
wook_ohhhhh14:44
lordcirthwook_, I don't see a need to use a pipe | for that14:44
lordcirthwget <link> -O <filename> && dpkg -i <filename>14:45
wook_i ran it like this:14:46
wook_wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb && sudo dpkg -i -y skype-install.deb14:46
wook_ohhhh i see what was the problem14:46
wook_the -y14:46
wook_oh well, i ran it as wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb , then ran sudo dpkg -i -y skype-install.deb then ran sudo apt-get install -f14:47
wook_everything worked, i was just curious about the && and ||14:47
jaso_O14:47
wook_jas: what o_014:47
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cat_bprmHello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this? also, now i cant load steam for some reason14:56
krish300Hi, having trouble with setting up wireless pci card14:57
krish300could someone help?14:57
jeremy31What wireless card?15:01
krish300TP-LINK WN851ND15:02
jeremy31 what does lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net; rfkill   show?  Paste results at paste.ubuntu.com and post the URL15:04
jeremy31rfkill list15:04
gt8ost4ldoes anybody know where the ubuntu 16.04 source code is?15:06
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atomohi!!15:06
krish300http://paste.ubuntu.com/25746148/15:10
oerheksgt8ost4l, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/source/15:12
gt8ost4loerhoks: i already tried that15:13
gt8ost4lit just extracts composed files15:13
cat_bprmFailed to find matching visual15:14
cat_bprmmisclick15:14
cat_bprmsorry15:14
oerheksgt8ost4l, and just search for launchpad + 16.04 + <package> + source15:14
gt8ost4loerheks fill in the blanks15:15
oerheksgt8ost4l, ??15:16
oerheksnot all sources are available, some parts are closed source15:17
gt8ost4lso your saying that just the kernel is available15:18
gt8ost4li found something thats relating to it15:18
gt8ost4lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode]15:18
oerheksgt8ost4l, no, seems like you did not search at all15:18
gt8ost4lis that it?15:18
gt8ost4li did15:19
oerheksWhat do you want to do with the sourcecode anyway? " it just extracts composed files" makes no sense to me15:19
gt8ost4loerheks: i mean when you extract the iso it ejust xtracts folders with compressed archieves15:21
gt8ost4lsorry15:21
cat_bprmHello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this? also, now i cant load steam for some reason15:22
gt8ost4land it doesnt measure up to 4.0gb15:22
oerheksthere are 4 isos on that page, together they contain the full sourcecode for the live iso, that is about 1.5 gb15:24
gt8ost4lwell when you extract it it adds up to twice that15:24
gt8ost4lwell no mtwice15:25
gt8ost4ltwice15:25
gt8ost4lbut you know what im saying15:25
oerheksWhat is our problem with that? compressed sourcecode takes less space on the server, and speeds up downloading15:25
gt8ost4lif you had a loook you would know what im saying15:26
gt8ost4lbut why would you waste your preious time?15:26
gt8ost4lits alot of hard work conanicle put to coding that source code15:27
gt8ost4lputs15:27
oerheksNow you have the source, compressed, what is your problem with that?15:28
gt8ost4lits not a problem15:29
oerheksi really like to answer questions, if i could understand15:29
* [n0mad] doesn't know either15:29
gt8ost4loerheks what do you dont understand15:30
gt8ost4lclarify15:30
[n0mad]what your question/problem is...15:30
gt8ost4li        told you already15:30
gt8ost4lsorry for that15:30
gt8ost4lits the source code doesnt measure up to what you downloaded15:31
gt8ost4lit doesnt measure up15:31
gt8ost4l you said it plain and simple it compressed files15:32
oerheks4 iso's x 4 bg compressed, ends up as 32 gb sourcecode uncompressed, install build essentials, and headers, and use build-dep to obtain libraries to build it like canonical does15:32
oerheksit takes a few days on a dual-core15:33
gt8ost4loerheks: are you serious15:33
gt8ost4li thought it would just amoun to 8gbs15:33
oerheksgt8ost4l, yes i am serious, you will end up with the iso that is about 1.5 gb ( x86_64 or i386)15:35
oerhekslike here, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/15:35
gt8ost4loerheks:what is propriety out of what you said?15:39
gt8ost4li thought all of it was open source15:39
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iorianvidia binary, restricted-extras-codecs and  something else15:41
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oerheksSome parts of the kernel are still closed source, and some drivers like qualcom15:44
oerheksnvidia drivers, adobe flash, fluendo codecs (but the mp3 license just expired)15:45
ioriabut you can choose  the "free software only" option , during installation15:49
iegQuick question.  I have a fairly fresh install of 16.04.  Everything has been working, but after a reboot today.  Some of my applications won't launch - they just spin.  When I launch from terminal I receive this error: udev_enumerate_scan failed15:49
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ikoniaieg: sounds like a disk problem of some sort15:58
DrManhattanieg you should check your system logs and it should give you a decent idea of where to start looking16:00
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BluesKajleg have you updated and upgraded today?16:13
BluesKajtoo late16:13
saint_cussedhi16:35
alkisgHello16:35
saint_cussedwhy ubuntu is that much cool?16:36
saint_cussedI love it16:36
oerheks:-)16:37
alkisgI think it has a secret ingredient16:37
oerheks!info redshift16:37
ubotturedshift (source: redshift): Adjusts the color temperature of your screen. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.11-1ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 77 kB, installed size 419 kB16:37
saint_cussedI'm waiting for the official 17.1016:38
saint_cussednow I'm using beta16:38
saint_cussedand it's damn cute now16:39
saint_cussedis it upgradable from beta?16:40
alkisgSure16:41
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saint_cussedit's been epic with gnome16:42
AnticomHey guys. I've just copied my RSA keys to my new machine. ssl-add -l shows all of them. However i can't ssh to any of my machines :/16:42
AnticomWhat am i missing?16:43
striveAnticom: I think that's just locally. I've always used ssh-copy-id16:49
Anticomstrive: ?16:49
AnticomWhat exactly is just locally? And what do you mean with locally?16:49
striveMaybe someone could jump in on this, but, ssh-add — adds private key identities to the authentication agent16:50
striveThat authentication agent is on your local machine; not on your server?16:51
pankaj_Now, I am obsessed. Firefox is not responding and always works like an old man (very slowly and pauses at random time). What should I do? Well I still want to use firefox only.16:51
striveAnticom: Whereas, ssh-copy-id — use locally available keys to authorise logins on a remote machine16:51
Anticomstrive: yea i just thought i'd try to add them again manually16:51
Anticomi got: Permissions 0644 for '/home/anticom/.ssh/id_rsa' are too open. \\ It is required that your private key files are NOT accessible by others.16:51
striveAnticom: Mine are 644.16:52
Anticomstrive: can you please check what the key's fileperms are supposed to be?16:52
Anticomhm16:52
oerheksmaybe you need to restart the sshd on the service > sudo systemctl restart sshd16:53
striveWoops, 644 for pub and 600 for private.16:53
Anticomoerheks: i've rebooted the entire laptop to make sure :D16:53
Anticomstrive: cheers16:53
* strive sips on coffee.16:53
striveAnticom: :)16:53
Anticomstrive: yep, that was it16:54
striveCheck to see if your sshd_config on the server is set to "StrictModes yes"16:54
striveAnticom: Oh, awesome :)16:55
striveThe option StrictModes specifies whether ssh should check user's permissions in their home directory and rhosts files before accepting login. This option must always be set to yes because sometimes users may accidentally leave their directory or files world-writable.16:56
Anticomstill can't connect to github :/16:56
AnticomI don't get this17:04
Anticomis there any cmd i can run to diagnose?17:04
Anticomssh agent is offering my id_rsa but for some reason it's considered not valid anymore17:05
lasersHi ubuntu. If somebody have updates to do, can somebody pastebin the output of 'apt-get upgrade --just-print -V' ? I'm looking for a nice example to cherrypick. That's all!17:05
Anticomwait what17:06
Anticomlasers: why can't you run this yourself?17:07
lasersI don't use Ubuntu, but improved a script for Debian-based distribtions.17:07
lasersAnd the LiveCD I have... is outdated.17:08
oerhekslasers, ask in #debian ?17:09
lasersoerheks: Hmm. I'll wait a bit. If nothing turns up, it's okay (not important). Thx for the idea.17:10
oerhekslasers, or install ubuntu and go wild17:10
oerheksi wonder what you would gain with the output of update/upgrade17:11
Anticomlasers: well sorry, but have no updates available. I guess an empty upgrade won't yield much for you17:17
ikoniathis is poor development17:17
ikoniaif you can't even be bothered to install an OS to get your use cases for your "good example" for development, it's not for this channel17:18
Anticomoerheks: why does it matter? if lasers is contributing in any shape way or form to linux why not give a helping hand?17:18
ikoniaplease don't ask again17:18
ikoniaAnticom: this channel is for ubuntu specific support, not debian based generic linux tool lazy research17:18
Anticomand you guys can't be bothered to run a cmd that takes you like a few seconds17:18
lasersAnticom: Yeah, that's fine.... oerheks: Nothing, just looking for something recent to put in the script.17:18
Anticomwe're all one community regardless of the distro17:19
* Anticom sighs17:19
ikoniaAnticom: no, it's not17:19
ikoniaAnticom: it's an ubuntu technical support channel17:19
Anticomi've seen a lot of offtopic in a lot of channels in the recent years17:19
Anticomhere aswell17:19
oerheks"(sudo) apt-get upgrade --just-print -V" gives a prompt ..17:19
ikoniaAnticom: no you've not, as thats why we have #ubuntu-offtopic and people are taken to there if they are offtopic17:19
oerheksoh, my bad, i copied the ' at the end :-D17:20
lfowlrare arch packages more secure than ubuntu's or less?17:44
lfowlranyoneknows/17:44
iseneWith kernel 4.10.0-21-generic I can do ' cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity ' but with the latest kernel 4.10.0-37-generic it hangs. Also, I cannot do ' sudo systemctl suspend ' with the latest (but this does work with the older 4.10.0-21-generic). HW = Dell XPS 15 (Ubuntu 17.04 up-to-date). Any ideas why this is?17:46
brainwashisene: what error(s) do you get?17:48
brainwashideally, check journalctl also17:48
FManhi17:54
oerheksisene, 4.10.0-21 is not the latest, run sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade17:55
oerhekslfowlr, ask in #arch too, you would be surprised :-D17:55
oerheksisene, current is 4.10.0-37 https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/kernel/17:56
brainwashoerheks: please reread what isene has written17:58
oerheksoh, he got the latest..18:01
lfowlroerheks: tell me about it.18:03
lfowlri asked there. they didn't say me much.18:03
oerheksi would say, as secure as18:04
OneEyedGlockerI had an issue earlier where some of my applications would not launch.  The terminal error showed udev_enumerate_scan_failed.  After further investigation - this error was only when launching an application installed via snap.  I remove snap applications and purge snap.  I reinstalled my applications without snap and they are working fine.18:05
OneEyedGlockerJust FYI in case anyone else runs into the issue.... not a fix, but a workaround18:06
brainwashOneEyedGlocker: sounds like something that should be reported as bug18:07
oerheksOneEyedGlocker, care to share *what* snap exactly?18:07
OneEyedGlockertwo snaps - hiri and discord18:08
lfowlroerheks: so both are equally secure/18:08
oerheksand why starting from terminal, and not use the starter?18:08
pingwindyktatorthere is an ancient pack(1) package currently not available in moderd systems, but gzip man says it can decompress packed files. any idea how to get this pack package?18:08
lfowlrin what way is that - you;d be surprised thing.18:08
oerhekslfowlr, both package systems are secure, yes.18:09
OneEyedGlockerI tried from starter and the apps looked like they would load (just spin), but then they would disappear.  So, I tried from terminal to get error message.18:09
ioriaOneEyedGlocker, https://askubuntu.com/questions/963947/snap-keepassxc-error-udev-enumerate-scan-failed18:09
RedPenguinhello all18:10
isenebrainwash: I don't get any errors on the cat - it just hangs18:11
OneEyedGlockerioria, yeah I found that earlier - not sure if this is already reported as official bug.18:11
ioriaOneEyedGlocker, you might add your experience there18:12
OneEyedGlockerWill do right now... thanks18:12
RedPenguinI have a strange issue that I am not sure where to begin debugging, I'm running Mythbuntu 16.04, and sometimes Kodi will go to a black screen and crash and at the same time Chrome, Opera, and Chromium all refuse to display on the screen, but fine after reboot. Firefox not based on the same libs will start just fine though.18:12
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RedPenguinI tried researching the issue but found nothing, only thing I can figure is some library or driver that is being used by Kodi and Chrome based browsers is messing up18:15
isenebrainwash: As for journalctl - I am on the working -21 kernel as we speak, so I would have to reboot to see the journalctl for the -37 kernel. For now I just wanted to check if anyone had experience with this and could lend me some of their experience. I should add that the -21 kernel will boot fine, but any later kernel must have ' nouveau.modeset=0 ' in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT18:15
iseneIf there are better channels for my questions, please point to some18:18
OneEyedGlockerioria - I've added my comments to the post18:19
ioriaOneEyedGlocker, great  tx18:19
ioriaOneEyedGlocker, do you have an nvidia card, by any chances ?18:22
brainwashioria: maybe related to bug 172361318:22
ubottubug 1723613 in linux (Ubuntu) "xserver fail after upgrade from image-4.10.0-37-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172361318:23
brainwashisene: ^18:23
brainwashisene: you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel18:24
isenethanks18:30
hoe`Hi, what is the most common/standard way to search indexed files on ubuntu? Just by filename is fine.18:56
hoe`if it matters I'm using WSL.18:57
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lordcirthhoe`, the mlocate package allows you to index files with 'updatedb' and search with 'locate'19:07
hoe`thank you, I will mess with that.19:10
baxxwhat screen shot tool do people use?19:12
baxxi want something that I can easily grab a screen section with, and have it on the clipboard19:13
lordcirthbaxx, I use Spectacle which comes with Kubuntu19:13
lordcirthYou want the picture to go to clipboard? why?19:13
baxxlordcirth: because I'm nearly always taking a picture of something to share with someone on line19:13
oerheksbaxx, standard gnome-screenshot works fine, whole screen/current window/select area19:13
baxxso i'll paste it into an image paste19:13
lasersbaxx: shutter is nice19:14
lordcirthbaxx, that means you're saving it somewhere and then dragging the file?19:14
baxxlordcirth: no, i wasnt to be able to ctrl-v the selection immediately after19:15
baxxi don't want to drag a file19:15
lordcirthbaxx, but that's what you're doing now, I mean?19:15
baxxlordcirth: at the moment i'm not doing anything, i was just wondering which one to use19:15
lordcirthOh19:15
hoe`updatedb has to be run by cron and can't maintain the db from fs change notices?19:16
oerheksheh, then don't ask what *we* use, but what has the options you *need*19:16
baxxlordcirth: if i press fn+prt sc then it creates on in my home dir, this is useless to me though19:16
lordcirthhoe`, correct, it predates inotify.  But it runs very quickly so you can run it frequently19:16
dgprattI wanted to run Ubuntu in a VM, so I am experimenting with running a minimal server install of 17.04. On top of that, I installed ubuntu-desktop with --no-install-recommends. But maybe this is too barebones for a non-expert because I don't know how to e.g. run a terminal or other programs from the graphical environment. Also there is no "power" menu that I would expect to see in the upper right next to the clock. Any19:17
dgprattthoughts/advice on rectifying these issues?19:17
lordcirthbaxx, perhaps you could change the keybind to take the shot, save it, and copy the file to clipboard?19:17
hoe`I see. It still seems to fit my use case but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something :)19:17
baxxlordcirth: it screen shots both screen and saves19:17
lordcirthdgpratt, non-root users cannot poweroff on Ubuntu Server19:17
baxxi assumed there would be something already for this task, rather than having to write a script for it19:17
oerheksdgpratt, then do not use --no-install-recommends if you are unfamilliair with terminal19:17
dgprattlordcirth: gtk, thanks19:17
lordcirthbaxx, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233345/how-can-i-easily-make-screenshots-of-screen-regions-on-arch-linux-with-i3-wm/346800#34680019:18
dgprattoerheks: I am not completely unfamiliar with terminal, but I am not an expert on Linux terminals certainly. In any case, this is mostly a learning exercise.19:19
lordcirthdgpratt, recommends would have included gnome-terminal, so you can install that.  sakura is also nice.19:19
dgprattlordcirth: ok, thanks19:19
baxxlordcirth: thanks... gnome-screenshot -ac seems to be ok for now :)19:20
baxx( had to install that on Lubuntu , all good )19:20
hoe`it's probably better it does not monitor because the filesystem emulation in WSL isn't the fastest.19:20
oerheks!ubuwin19:22
ubottuCanonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.19:22
dgprattUnder gnome, what is the difference (any?) between tapping Alt and then typing a command and Alt+F2, then command. I would have expected one or both to be able to run a command as though I had typed them in at a terminal, but neither seemed to work for what I was trying to do.19:22
ioriadgpratt, alt is HUD19:27
oerhekstapping tab or alt f2, does the same AFAIK19:29
RonaldsMazitishow to change left crtl with windows key19:37
RonaldsMazitismy crtl button seems to press itself19:38
astoryI'm having trouble running gparted off a live usb - it hangs on "Scanning all devices" for at least an hour.  This seems to be an issue around having a floppy drive being presented by the bios badly, but I don't have one in `fdisk -l` so I'm not sure what's wrong.  Does anyone know a workaround, or another way to format my disk to ext4?19:47
ioriaastory, you can disable floppy in bios19:47
astoryioria: yes but I *think* it's not enabled19:48
astory(and rebooting into the live usb will take an hour or more so I'd like to not do that)19:48
astoryI don't have /dev/fd0 either so I think there isn't one19:48
BluesKajast set the hdd as first in the boot sequence in the bios19:48
rainandmehi, any idea if it is possible to resize a partition using parted to maximum disk space available19:49
BluesKajastory,^19:49
astoryBluesKaj: why would the boot sequence affect gparted?19:49
ioriaastory, how much ram do you have ?19:49
astoryioria: 16 GiB19:49
ioriaastory 16 g, and you have floppy on that pc ?19:50
BluesKajastory, good question, but it does19:50
astoryioria: no, there is not floppy.  I only mentioned it because that's the common thread through the bug posts I found19:50
astoryeg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/15504719:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 155047 in GParted "gparted hangs "Scanning all Devices" forever (because of /dev/fd0)" [Critical,Fix released]19:50
ioriaastory    200719:51
astorybut a) I don't have a floppy and b) that should have been fixed in 200719:51
alkisgastory: you can run sudo gparted /dev/sda to limit it to one device19:51
dgprattso long story somewhat shorter, I succeeded in making a .desktop file for Firefox that works (Exec=firefox), but attempting to run firefox by tapping Alt, then typing "firefox<enter>" does not work, nor Alt+F2, then "firefox<enter>". If this query is better off in a gnome forum, please let me know.19:51
astoryalkisg: that gives me "Too few arguments.19:51
astory"19:51
astorywhich is puzzling :|19:51
astorythis is a fresh 17.04 live usb19:51
alkisgastory: is your disk sda?19:51
astoryalkisg: yep19:52
BluesKajwell,  time to close up shop here19:52
oerheksdgpratt, how odd, how did you install firefox in the first place??19:52
ioriaastory    can you paste  sudo parted -l ?19:52
oerheksdgpratt, you are seeking issues with --no-install-recommends19:53
astoryioria: https://pastebin.com/2GAkVF8H, then launches gparted and hangs19:53
dgprattoerheks: I was afraid someone was going to ask me that...I installed it with nix19:53
ioriaastory    sudo parted -l19:54
Scoop7Hey, what is the difference between cat > and cat <  ?19:54
alkisg> is output and < is input19:54
RonaldsMazitismy crtl button is pressing itself from time to time, is there easy way to switch it with windows key19:54
astoryioria: whoops, sorry.  one sec19:54
oerheksdgpratt, and if you installed it with softwarecenter, surely you would get the .desktop file with it. tell us the true way you installed it?19:54
astoryioria: no output, hanging for ~10 seconds now19:54
RonaldsMazitisI am not using unity so my windows key is unused anyway19:55
rainandmehttps://dpaste.de/kpb8   any idea how to fix this ?19:55
oerheksare you even on ubuntu?? i doubt it19:55
ioriaastory    sata disconnected ? :þ19:55
astoryooh and it's ignoring ctrl+C :(19:55
astoryioria: well I can mount the sata disk that's formatted... and fdisk -l sees them19:55
astoryI wonder if I might have a bad drive?19:56
ioriaastory    i's day something wrong with your disk19:56
ioria*say19:56
astorythat sounds like the most likely problem.19:57
ioriaastory    change port19:57
astoryyeah will do19:58
dgprattoerheks: I'm confused by your question. I installed firefox with nix. In any case, I'm just trying to understand how HUD or whatever commands work in gnome (or don't work in my case). If you or someone has a recommended way to get a minimal graphical environment (e.g. without "office", etc.), I'm interested to hear it.19:58
ioriadgpratt, how much minimal ?19:58
oerheksdgpratt, what is *nix* ??19:59
dgprattoerheks: https://nixos.org/nix/19:59
RonaldsMazitisgnome-tweak-tool 16.04 is not helping to switch left crtl and windows key20:00
oerheksdgpratt, we don't support that.20:00
oerheksgood luck!20:00
dgprattoerheks: I'm not asking about nix20:00
Scoop7is there a difference between "cat < some.txt" vs "cat some.txt"  ?20:00
dgprattor anything to do with nix20:00
ducassedgpratt: why not use apt, which is supported here?20:00
dgprattI'm asking about running commands from gnome desktop20:00
oerheksdgpratt, yes you do, as you have troubles starting ff installed with an unsupported package manager20:01
RonaldsMazitishttps://askubuntu.com/questions/93624/how-do-i-swap-left-ctrl-with-left-alt-on-my-keyboard20:01
RonaldsMazitisI guess I have to do this20:01
RonaldsMazitisonly I need different ~/.Xmodmap20:02
oerheksdgpratt, try ##linux?20:02
RonaldsMazitisI need windows key not alt20:03
RonaldsMazitishow my ~/.Xmodmap should look like20:03
lostfilei think > is when you want to out put the result to a file20:03
dgprattoerheks: I disagree that this is related to nix. It's simply a matter of running a program on the PATH from gnome, however it got there doesn't seem very relevant. But I will take your suggestion to ask around ##linux thanks.20:03
ducasseRonaldsMazitis: xmodmap is now deprecated by the xkb tools, and not guaranteed to work properly anymore.20:04
RonaldsMazitisok so how do I change left crtl to super windows key20:05
ducasseRonaldsMazitis: yu need to make a custom keymap with xkbcomp and apply it with setxkbmap20:06
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"20:06
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "add control = Super_L"20:06
RonaldsMazitisthis looks like to work20:06
macksfielddoes anyone know a good resource that shows the structural map of ubuntu? like how software is connected to the linux kernal20:07
macksfielda visual aid20:07
ikoniamacksfield: software isn't20:07
ikoniamacksfield: the kenrel is the kernel,20:07
RonaldsMazitissomewhat super key works as crtl in browser and does not in quassel irc client20:07
macksfield@ikonia but they communicate through some connections, yes?20:08
macksfieldI'm a newb, which is why I was looking for a visual20:08
ikoniamacksfield: if you're new to linux, this is not where you should be starting20:08
Bashing-ommacksfield: A good starting place : http://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/ ??20:10
macksfieldehhhyy, that's something like what I'm looking for20:10
macksfieldI'm not totally newb in using linux, but I can't say my understanding is very deep20:10
macksfieldthanks Bashing-om20:11
Bashing-ommacksfield: :) It's linux, no one knows it all ,, but TJ- comes close .20:12
Bashing-ommacksfield: Be aware that link is temporary . subject to be moved to a permanent home .20:16
Odd_Hey. I'm running some servers that run independent from each other but with some addons that kinda work alongside each other. Is it possible to have symlinks work in the fashion of both writing and reading to the source?20:18
arooniwhere do i change the time at which ubunutu shows me the lock screen20:18
ikoniasymlinks are both read/write support20:18
Odd_I seem to be getting a "permission denied" response though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯20:20
macksfieldthanks again Bashing-om20:20
Bashing-ommacksfield: Glad2help20:21
ikoniaOdd_: look at the permissions20:21
macksfieldDon't suppose you have any ideas why my back of motherboard sound isn't working but my front of case sound is? In sound settings, it's detecting my headphones, but the out Digital Output is on (S/PDIF) when I have my speakers plugged into an analog port in the back of case20:21
BenBEIs there an package archive server for Ubuntu similar to archive.debian.org (Containing all old package versions)?20:34
ikoniaold-releases.ubuntu.com20:34
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Bashing-om!sound | macksfield20:41
ubottumacksfield: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.20:41
macksfield@Bashing-om thanks again20:46
BenBEikonia: thx.20:48
BenBEFollow up question: Didn't Ubuntu 4.10 (Oct 2004) include the ca-certificates package (first on old-releases from Aug 2005) - or am I missing smething?20:51
ikoniaBenBE: those releases are long dead, asking that sort of question from memory is unlikley to get an answer20:53
ikoniathey are totally out of support here20:54
BenBEikonia: Sure. Mostly doing some archeological research for a project of mine and wondered.21:01
BenBEWill probably have to cross-correlate with the ISOs to be complete.21:02
carl-ericHi. How can I get openjdk-9 installed on 17.04 with a version corresponding to the official release? The version available in 17.04 is seriously outdated.21:08
ducassecarl-eric: openjdk-9 final was not ready when 17.04 was released, maybe a ppa is available (at your own risk)21:17
carl-ericducasse, i haven't found one yet. there are openjdk-9 packages in 17.04, i was thinking they'd get updated once it was ready.21:18
ducassecarl-eric: not necessarily, no. especially not since 17.10 is just days from release.21:19
carl-ericducasse, i know. i'm quite looking forward to 17.10 ;-) unfortunately i need a working java 9 now. it looks like i'll have to go with oracle's binaries for now (assuming they have some for linux)21:20
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teh_mastererhow do i install plex media server on ubuntu server when i have no access to the web browser? i tried Lynx an no download buttons work21:25
Bashing-omteh_masterer: Fix networking ? what results ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?21:27
teh_mastererBashing-om:  sorry what? i dont know what you mean.21:28
ducasseteh_masterer: you really need to ask plex support as it's a third-party package21:29
Bashing-omteh_masterer: " no access to the web browser " do we need to find out the why not ?21:29
oerhekssudo snap install menta-plexmediaserver --classic http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/07/22/install-plex-media-server-easily-via-snap-ubuntu-16-04-higher/21:30
teh_mastererducasse: i tried apt --install plexmediaserver.deb it does nothing. i tried apt -i plexmediaserver.deb also does nothing. So I tried Lynx browser and went to their site. None of the download buttons work, they all give an HTML error.21:30
oerheksdpkg -i <package.deb>  perhaps?21:30
ducasseapt install ./plex....deb21:31
carl-ericIs there a way to verify signatures on packages downloaded from packages.ubuntu.com (or the archive servers, which are only linked to using unsecured http)21:31
oerheks!md5sum21:33
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM21:33
Seveascarl-eric: yes, don't manually download but let apt do it. It uses the gpg-signed hashes. Doing that for manual downloads is a bit trickier as those hases are in the package list files21:33
carl-ericSeveas, that's what i usually do of course. i'm trying to do it manually for a few packages21:34
Seveascarl-eric: download the Packages file, verify its signature, and use the checksums in that file.21:34
striveteh_masterer: Have you tried using the upgrade option?21:35
teh_mastererBashing-om: Because if I have a server with no browser how am I suppose to download something if its not in the cache and download buttons dontw ork in Lynx?21:35
teh_mastererstrive: upgrade what?21:35
carl-ericSeveas, thanks21:36
ducasseteh_masterer: download on another host, copy to server21:37
striveteh_masterer: dpkg -i plexmediaserver.deb21:37
oerheks!info debsig-verify21:37
ubottudebsig-verify (source: debsig-verify): Debian package signature verification tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15 (zesty), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB21:37
Seveasdebsig-verify /var/cache/apt/archives/debsig-verify_0.15_amd64.deb21:39
Seveasdebsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed.21:39
SeveasAm I holding it wrong, or does the ubuntu archive not support this?21:40
carl-ericSeveas, that's what i tried initially and i got the same result. it doesn't seem to work that way.21:40
Seveasexit code is 10, which according to the manpage means "no signature"21:41
teh_mastererducasse: that doesnt work man i tried it. "no such file or directory"21:41
oerheksmaybe it depends on the .dsc , sourcecode only?21:41
ducasseteh_masterer: the apt command i gave you? you need to use an absolute path, ./ only works if it's in the current directory21:42
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teh_mastererducasse: dpkg -i plexmediaserver.deb does not do anything. no file or directory found.21:43
ducasseteh_masterer: i didn't tell you to do that, but same thing21:43
[n0mad]are you actually including the version information? or just typing plexmediaserver.deb21:44
teh_mastererducasse: sorry that was strive right under you. anyway it doesnt work.21:45
skinuxI'm starting to use yarn package manager, it has informed me that Node 2.4.6 is not supported, it wants "^4.8.0 || ^5.7.0 || ^6.2.2 || ^8.0.0". Should I just install Node from official site?21:45
ducasseteh_masterer: but use apt instead as it will take care of dependencies21:45
teh_masterer[n0mad]: plexmediaserver.deb21:45
teh_mastererducasse: apt also does not work21:45
ducasseteh_masterer: i just told you why21:46
[n0mad]that doesn't sound like an actual file name from their downloads21:46
[n0mad]For example, plexmediaserver_1.5.6.3790-4613ce077_amd64.deb21:46
striveI believe that plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64 is the latest version.21:47
[n0mad]yes, i just picked a file21:47
oerheksthe snap package gives a funny result.>> sudo snap install menta-plexmediaserver --classic21:47
[n0mad]i have 10 or 1521:47
teh_mastererstrive: i just tried apt -i https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb doesnt work21:47
ducasseteh_masterer: no, that's entirely wrong21:48
striveteh_masterer: What experience do you have on Linux? Also, is this a fresh install or upgrade?21:48
teh_mastererstrive: i dont have any. im testing ubuntu server in a virtual machine.21:48
striveteh_masterer: Ahhh.21:48
ducasseteh_masterer: don't just make up commands out of thin air, run them as they're supposed to work21:48
striveteh_masterer: First, you'll want to download the file: wget https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb21:49
teh_mastererducasse: im not making up commands. I watched a tutorial on how to install apps. The instructor said use --install firefox.deb but when I tried plexmediaserver.deb it doesnt work. Then everyone keeps saying to use -i instead of --install because its depcrated.21:49
striveteh_masterer: Those are examples. You need to use actual filenames you are currently working with.21:49
ducasseteh_masterer: 'apt install', not 'apt --install21:50
ducasseteh_masterer: 'apt install', not 'apt --install'21:50
teh_mastererducasse: unable to locate package. couldnt find any by glob or regex.21:51
ducasseteh_masterer: 'apt install /absolute/path/to/plexmediaserver.deb'21:52
teh_mastererducasse: unsupported file or given on commandl ine21:53
striveteh_masterer: Check your private messages, please.21:54
ducasseteh_masterer: which ubuntu is this?21:54
teh_mastererducasse: ubuntu server lts 16.0421:54
hggdhif the package is local, then one should use dpkg,, not apt21:55
hggdhsudo dpkg -i <whatever.deb21:55
teh_mastererhggdh: that doesnt work i tried that too. both -i --ii -install --install21:55
hggdhteh_masterer: for dpkg, or apt?21:56
teh_mastererhggdh: both21:56
oerhekscd Downloads ...21:57
hggdhteh_masterer: OK. so you downloaded a package, then tried dpkg -i /give/the/full/path/whatever.deb. What, exactly, happened?21:57
teh_mastererhggdh:  the package never downloaded it says file or no directory found. apt, dpkg, i tried lynx browser21:58
cyyberhello, I am having problem in Ubuntu 17.10 , touchpad is not working21:58
oerhekscyyber, join #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 support, until release21:58
hggdhteh_masterer: (1) dpkg will only work if the package is already downloaded; (2) apt will fetch the package from the reositories21:58
oerheks!17.1021:58
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+121:58
oerheks4 more days ...21:59
teh_mastererhggdh: it is not in the repositories or cache, whatever you call it. so i tried  https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb but it doesnt work21:59
hggdhteh_masterer: you tried *what* on this URL?21:59
Keitaroi am wondering when we do a dns request, the request is iterative so if our Internet provider dns don't have the answer in the cache, it is our pc who do request to the root dns or the provider dns that makes the request ?22:00
hggdhcuz neither dpkg nor apt will work on it22:00
Keitarothanks in advance22:00
teh_mastererhggdh: apt -install, apt -i, apt --i, apt --install with URL after22:00
[n0mad]none of that will work22:00
hggdhteh_masterer: will not work. apt will download a package from the repositories, NOT from anywhere else22:01
[n0mad]maybe you should actually try using a real browser to download the file22:01
ikoniaKeitaro: it's your dns server - not your local machine22:01
ikoniaKeitaro: it's a heriarchy22:01
cyybercan anyone tell me touchpad drivers available for ubuntu22:01
Keitarothanks ikonia22:01
hggdhteh_masterer: so, since the URL is elsewhere, YOU must download it manually, and then use dpkg22:01
ikoniacyyber: you're using 17.10 ?22:01
cyyberyes22:01
cyybersome how, I managed to start ubuntu in my laptop22:02
ikoniacyyber: then #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel, as you seem to already know22:02
cyyberassume that I am using 17.022:02
cyyberand tell me what would be the possible solution, there, I will give it a try22:02
ikoniacyyber: no, lets not assume22:02
ikoniacyyber: use the correct channel22:02
cyyberalready sent message there, but no one replied22:03
ikoniacyyber: then wait22:03
teh_mastererhggdh: strive told me wget is download URL. Why is this not told in my tutorial? so if app is not in cache you cnat download. ridiculous.22:03
ikoniacyyber: you waited less then 2 minutes22:03
cyyberhmm.. Hope to get an answer in 15 min22:03
hggdhteh_masterer: I cannot answer why your tutorial gives you the wrong information, sorry.22:03
ikoniacyyber: you're chosing to run pre-release software with no formal support, you are expected to know the basics enough to troubleshoot22:03
ikoniacyyber: this channel does not pickup the slack for #ubuntu+122:03
oerhekscyyber, wrong approach, tell #ubuntu+1 what laptop/touchpad this is ..22:03
cyyberdone22:04
hggdhteh_masterer: as I said before: (1) dpkg will only work if the package is already downloaded; (2) apt will fetch the package from the reositories22:04
teh_mastererhggdh: yes strive is guiding me through it thank you hggdh. the tutorial was recommended to me by a linux power user. seems to me this wget command is ESSENTIAL.22:05
hggdhteh_masterer: since you are trying to install an unknown package from somewhere else, yes, you have to download it somehow22:06
teh_mastererhggdh: i got the plex server up thanks to strive but i cant connect. any idea why sir22:26
hggdhteh_masterer: sorry, never used plex22:26
teh_mastererhggdh: ok no problem thanks again22:27
ikoniaread the logs22:30
ikoniacheck the firewall22:30
ikoniado basic connectivity test22:30
ericusSo I had to go back to a checkpoint from January on one of my VM's... This is what I get:22:40
ericusE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)22:40
ericusE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?22:40
ericusTotally unfixable?22:40
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ericus(sudo apt-get update)22:41
Bashing-omericus: Only one instance of the package manager can be active . Auto updates running at that time ?22:44
ericusno apt-get or aptitude running as far as I can see22:45
ericusoh22:46
oerhekshit the update icon ?22:46
ericushttps://pastebin.com/hgtvDw4X22:46
ericusoerheks headless server22:46
ericusI would love help with solving this22:49
ericusThere's months of config down the drain22:49
ikoniacalm down22:49
ikonianothing is "down the drain"22:50
ikoniayou just have a process holding the lock file22:50
ericusthe VM runs on a Windows Server Hyper-V if that helps somehow22:50
tgm4883also, months of config? If months of config are down the drain you're doing it wrong22:50
Bashing-omericus: looks to me like /apt/apt.systemd.daily is running . wait for it to complete ??22:50
ikonianot at all22:50
ikoniayou have a process holding the lock file22:50
ikoniait tails you Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock22:51
ikoniait can't get an exclusive lock on that file22:51
ericuswell okay, not months of config, but months of -working- config. And yes, I should be better at creating backups.. lessond learned..22:53
ikoniawhat ???22:53
ikoniayou've lost nothing22:53
tgm4883ericus: as others have said, you've lost nothing. Relax, wait 10 minute and run it again22:54
ericussudo apt-get update ran just fine now, thanks for the tip on waiting22:54
tgm4883Further, even *IF* for some reason apt was fouled up, you still have access to your data and configuration. Nothing is gone22:55
ericustrue22:55
* ericus takes a shot of whisket22:56
ericuswhiskey*, damn22:56
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ericusmost of what I had configured will probably be fixed :)23:00
ericusI've had a fucking bad day as it is, I do not need this right now23:00
ikoniatone down the language23:01
ikoniawe don't need it23:01
ericussorry, just upset because of my own mistakes23:01
ikoniano problem, it happens23:01
ericusthanks for the help though, great community23:02
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evilbugubuntu's getting rid of unity with 18 but will ubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop still be different packages?23:21
ericusHmm, some vhosts configs where actually lost, I guess I was dumb enough to take a checkpoint from that.. As said, lesson learned...23:22
thrmohow can I make the buttons to maximize, minimize and close windows bigger?23:23
thrmoon Ubuntu Gnome23:23
thrmoi want to use them in a tablet/notebook hybrid and as they sit they are a tad too small23:24
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ducasseevilbug: there will be a 'clean' gnome session available in 17.10 in addition to the new one23:38
chalcedonymy hubby's computer running ubuntu 16.04 is doing very weird things23:57
chalcedonyhis fireox is floating, it's lost it's top bar, with +-x, and whatever is going on, i can't click to edit or save etc. . it lierally moves the pointer over23:58
chalcedonyis there a magnifying glass thing in ubuntu and could he inadvertently activated that?23:59
evilbugducasse: ooohh, not sure i trust that. every time i've installed ubuntu in past years have been server + gnome-desktop.23:59
chalcedonyhow do you close it?23:59
chalcedonyhi evilbug23:59
evilbugyo23:59

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