[00:00] <notdaniel> so at several points throughout the day, i'll start seeing this happening for periods of time: https://hastebin.com/kexoyunaba
[00:00] <notdaniel> i have 2 laptops running xenial, both see this in the logs, one of them is fine, but the other (main one) seems to totally lose connectivity for much of the time when those changes are happening so rapidly
[00:01] <notdaniel> not sure if the router is actually doing something wrong, or if i have a driver issue or something
[00:04] <pijama_boy> Hey guys, anyone know how install bumblee nvidia drivers? I installed the packages through synaptic...are they suppose to show up under additional drivers?
[00:06] <delinquentme> Bashing-om, would ... making a new file on a live-boot USB drive corrupt the live-bootability of the usb?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> pijama_boy: Why BumbleBee ? It has been depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .
[00:08] <pijama_boy> I'm attempting to solve v-sync problems when using the nvidia gpu
[00:09] <Bashing-om> delinquentme: Depends . Was the USB made as persistent ?
[00:09] <delinquentme> no idea
[00:11] <pijama_boy> Bashing-om: do you know how to deal with v-syn...?
[00:14] <Bashing-om> pijama_boy: I have seen some turorials in that respect .. lemme see what I can fetch up for you .
[00:18] <pijama_boy> Bashing-om: thank you, I tried a couple...most of them suggest to change the advance config in nvidia x server but those options are not available to me (at least through gui)
[00:19] <pijama_boy> Bashing-om: and to be honest fumbling around with my xorg config seemed risky
[00:19] <oerheks> nvidia settings, vsync to vblank?
[00:19] <oerheks> in OpenGl settings, that is
[00:23] <Sicnus> Hey guys... what is the best WiFi Adapter (USB wireless) for Ubuntu?  The RealTek one I have is crappy and cuts in and out all the freaking time.  I'm looking for something to be rock solid stable.
[00:23] <pijama_boy> oerheks: open gl tab in nvidia x server?
[00:25] <oerheks> example https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cn9IroOyw5E/WCS83c-14SI/AAAAAAAABVI/zX7hJfrpC7UbjwirIj_kJU9Mxut56iC9gCLcB/s1600/NVIDIA%2BX%2BServer%2BSettings_001.png
[00:25] <lordcirth> 17.04: So my GTX 1060 broke and I swapped in a GT 650.  The fan stays at 21% no matter what and overheats/throttles in games.
[00:27] <pijama_boy> oerheks: gonna switch back to nvidia gpu, reboot and try
[00:29] <StickyNipples> anyone have problems running 3 monitors with ubuntu? any glitches or lag?
[00:29] <oerheks> lordcirth, did you rerun lmsensors detect?
[00:29] <delinquentme> so still cant boot into a bootable live CD but I can now get back into ubuntu ... using GRUB and advanced boot ... booting into a "Ubuntu, w linux 4.4* "
[00:31] <lordcirth> oerheks, I did not; I'll try that now
[00:32] <pijama_boy> oerheks, i dont have the gui option to sync to vblank, all I have under my opengl settins i quality and "conformant texture clamping"
[00:33] <oerheks> pijama_boy, strange..
[00:34] <pijama_boy> oerheks, i cant take a screenshot : ( maybe I need to update my open gl?
[00:34] <ghostnik11> Hey i am trying to install linux and android x86 along side windows. But the thing is when i go to installation set up it doesnt give me the option to install along side windows instead i have to manually go to set up something different
[00:34] <oerheks> pijama_boy,  you did use the driver menu in ubuntu?
[00:34] <ghostnik11> I want to know if i shpuld just go into gparted from live disk and reduce size of sda3 so that i can shrink the windows partition
[00:35] <pijama_boy> oerheks, I'm using proprietary drivers nvidia375.66... I used the nvidia x server settings
[00:36] <lordcirth> oerheks, re-ran sensors-detect and rebooted; idle on desktop the nvidia-settings GUI reports 43C and 21% fan; RPM "not supported"
[00:37] <pijama_boy> oerheks, here's a screenshot https://pasteboard.co/GOXZc4m.png
[00:37] <lordcirth> oerheks, 'sensors' only shows  asus-isa-0000 with cpu_fan: 0 rpm
[00:38] <lordcirth> That seems odd, my CPU temp showed before
[00:41] <oerheks> pijama_boy, strange that the option is removed, sure it is not located in an other tab?
[00:42] <oerheks> nvidia 375.66 .. dit you install them from the nvidia site??
[00:43] <oerheks> i don't see them here https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa nor here https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
[00:43] <pijama_boy> I think it got downloaded by ubuntu during installation
[00:43] <pijama_boy> oerheks, hmm thats weird
[00:44] <oerheks> unlikely, you would get the nouveau driver standard, and take some action to install the nvidia prop driver
[00:46] <pijama_boy> oerheks, I think they were just there in the additional drivers panel
[00:46] <pijama_boy> oerheks, I'm sure I didn't downloaded them from the nvidia website
[00:47] <oerheks> pijama_boy, that would be the correct way, but i don't see them there .. what happens when you run: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ??
[00:48] <pijama_boy> oerheks, 4 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[00:48] <pijama_boy> sudo: aptfull: command not found
[00:51] <pijama_boy> Listing... Done
[00:51] <pijama_boy> boot-repair/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]
[00:51] <pijama_boy> boot-sav/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]
[00:51] <pijama_boy> boot-sav-extra/xenial,xenial 4ppa59 all [upgradable from: 4ppa57]
[00:51] <pijama_boy> glade2script/xenial,xenial 3.2.3~ppa4 all [upgradable from: 3.2.3~ppa3]
[00:55] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[00:55] <oerheks> aptfull is your typo
[01:03] <pijama_boy> oerheks, ops sorry
[01:03] <pijama_boy> oerheks, it's been a long day
[01:04] <pijama_boy> done, should I log out and check?
[01:05] <oerheks> did you get any update ?
[01:06] <oerheks> (nvidia)
[01:08] <pijama_boy> oerheks, nope, run "nvidia" search on terminal, no results
[01:22] <jer> anyone have an apple magic keyboard (bluetooth) working with function keys?
[01:22] <jer> and i mean the media keys sorry, not the fn key
[01:29] <Droid2Ubuntu> Good wevening
[01:54] <Cryptofun> hey guyes
[01:54] <Cryptofun> guys* n girls8
[01:54] <Cryptofun> ubstart if not self install , its compremise sign6
[02:10] <Droid2Ubuntu> I can't neleive that Ubuntu no longer supports open sound system
[02:12] <Cryptofun> ?%
[02:12] <Cryptofun> what is a ' open sound system ' :P looks very interesting :)
[02:12] <Cryptofun> u mean a matrix ? :P
[02:14] <Droid2Ubuntu> Iit was the old hand me down from old school unix!
[02:14] <Droid2Ubuntu> Ya know freebsd opensolars hpunix and the like
[02:14] <Cryptofun> im new to ub. from 2 day old , alrdy used a shel to fix dd 15 year ago
[02:15] <Cryptofun> wit net strap , but thats alll
[02:34] <bcowan> how in the hell do you get a sane bash prompt in a chroot with ubuntu
[02:36] <Cryptofun> bcowan?
[02:36] <Cryptofun> u tellin ths to me or? :)
[02:36] <Cryptofun> im new 2 day old xp to ubuntu =/
[02:38] <bcowan> no Cryptofun
[02:39] <Bashing-om> bcowan: After the mounts and/or binds .. did you run something akin
[02:40] <Bashing-om> bcowan: akin to ' sudo chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash ' ?
[02:44] <bcowan> Bashing-om, I'm super familiar with chroot, I have many distros and things running chrooted, just ubuntu has some dunbass PS1 in thier .bashrc
[02:45] <bcowan> just complaining P
[02:47] <catbeard> hello, need some help figuring out why my HOSTS file won't work
[02:47] <Bashing-om> bcowan: Often helps to have a sounding board for the "complaining" :) Gets the mind right, no ?
[02:47] <bcowan> Bashing-om, yes, exactly
[02:48] <catbeard> it should work but it doesn't
[02:49] <bcowan> catbeard, be nicer to your guests file
[02:50] <catbeard> running dnsmasq/nscd and over vpn, ssh port forward 127.0.0.1:xxxx locally and foxyproxy configured for socks5 for 127.0.0.1:xxxx, should resolve to the same ip either way, and the /etc/hosts on the ssh server is set to the same thing, so i know it's not that
[02:50] <catbeard> i put a file on a website i'm working on so i'd know if i'm hitting the dev server
[02:50] <catbeard> so far that file is 404
[02:53] <bcowan> sounds more like sshd_conf
[02:53] <bcowan> ?
[02:56] <bcowan> allot of variables with that setup jeeze
[02:58] <bcowan> lets fly around three islands, over a mountain, and through a tunnel and maybe we can see a smoke signal
[03:00] <pijama_boy> Hey guys, anyone know how to fix v-sync problems with nvidia cards?
[03:11] <ReedK0> does ubuntu have a high-contrast mode?
[03:14] <[n0mad]> yes, settings > universal access > high contrast mode
[03:15] <ReedK0> I thought holding tab brought up a list of hotkeys, but after first-run I wasn't able to make that happen
[03:15] <ReedK0> at first run
[03:15] <ReedK0> high-contrast changes my resolution to a resolutino that makes system settings out-of-virew
[03:16] <pijama_boy> ReedK0,  hold your super key (windows key)
[03:18] <ReedK0> the high-contrast profile also works, but it changes the resolution.
[03:19] <ReedK0> Actually the universal access version doesn't thank you.
[03:20] <[n0mad]> not sure why that would be. high contrast works fine for me and doesn't change my resolution
[03:20] <ReedK0> at the top-right there's a man in a circle it's a profiles button
[03:22] <[n0mad]> that's probably the always show universal access menu option that's also in settings > universal access
[03:23] <plongshot> Has anyone installed eclipse from the latest package from the eclipse site? I tried everyting I know to do ( which isn't mucfh ) last night and have it to where it will launch from the command line and a desktop icon appears in desktop search and is placed on the launcher, but it will not launch from the icon. Can enyone tell me what I'm kissing here? Why isn't launching from the icon working? Here is somei informatino that may help if anyone is interestd
[03:23] <plongshot> to help me.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25742992/  * I have about a half hour to work on it but I don't think it would take that long
[03:24] <plongshot> Thanks in advance for any help / guidance
[03:25] <plongshot> Btw, I did try addin percent U at the end of the Exec= line and to make the eclipse.ini file executable by all of ugo ( problem still persists )
[03:30] <oerheks> plongshot, use full path for exec , example https://askubuntu.com/questions/281293/creating-a-desktop-file-for-a-new-application
[03:33] <plongshot> oerheks: Thanks.  The Exec line in that example contains a space followed by a ./  and the executable name. Is that right to do?
[03:34] <plongshot> And what are these " -ui -c %F " flags? Do I need any kind of flags?
[03:35] <oerheks> plongshot, dunno about special start conditions of that 'ugene'
[03:35] <oerheks> and scroll down for the desktop-entry-spec
[03:36] <plongshot> oerheks: Oh, I thik I see what you mean - the flags are application specific not Exec specific?
[03:36] <plongshot> thanks
[03:36] <oerheks> jups
[03:36] <oerheks> have fun!
[03:47] <gbear14275> I accidentally renamed my boot lvm VG without updating grub and now keep dropping into busybox.  I think I can edit the boot params from the grub menu but the naming scheme is confusing me.  Can someone point me to how the grup boot params are named with regard to vg's and lv's?
[03:55] <Cryptofun> hey guys
[03:55] <Cryptofun> i have ultimate ub. nub question :P
[03:55] <Cryptofun> 1st pid is normal ?
[03:55] <Cryptofun> https://i.imgur.com/vm3dXOk.png
[03:57] <oerheks> Cryptofun, with 2 zombie processes? sure
[03:59] <pijama_boy> this is terrible, ended up trying to manually edit xorg.conf, got the system jammed into low graphics mode and now the nvidia x server dialog is all messed up
[04:00] <Ben64> pijama_boy: sounds about right
[04:00] <pijama_boy> Ben64, *thumbs up*
[04:01] <Ben64> it'd help fix your issue if you went into more detail
[04:02] <pijama_boy> Ben64, been trying to fix vsync in browser, on laptop with nvidia + intel gpu
[04:03] <pijama_boy> not even minor vsync, not trying to play videogames, youtube videos are barely watchable : \
[04:03] <Ben64> sounds more like a browser issue
[04:04] <pijama_boy> good call, gonna check playing a video file
[04:04] <Cryptofun> chromium pijama_boy?
[04:05] <pijama_boy> firefox and chrome
[04:05] <pijama_boy> affecting video player too
[04:05] <pijama_boy> with an .mp4 file
[04:06] <Ben64> try mplayer
[04:06] <pijama_boy> will do, gotta go to bed now, my wife is starting to get upset
[04:07] <pijama_boy> just wanted to vent my frustration mostly
[04:07] <pijama_boy> I guess I ran out of time, trying to fix this problem, tonight
[04:07] <pijama_boy> thank you for your help guys
[04:08] <pijama_boy> will give it another shot tomorrow
[04:24] <Evi1R0B> Hello
[04:30] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/kq6qb  pijama_boy  i use 8k no problem
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:10] <slimetrap> hi !!!!
[06:10] <EriC^^> hi
[06:11] <slimetrap> what's a great service to use for ubuntu backups? i was thinking about getting a digitalocean vps and backup via ssh
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !backup | slimetrap
[06:14] <slimetrap> no i mean
[06:14] <slimetrap> i'm going to use the default ubuntu backup thingy and i was gonna use some ssh provider
[06:14] <slimetrap> for offsite backups
[06:14] <slimetrap> of certain files
[06:20] <xcom169> hello All!
[06:20] <xcom169> Anyone here can help me in kernels?
[06:22] <macksfield> Anyone have any ideas on why my case audio lines are working [headphones], but back direct motherboard audio connections are not? [speakers]
[06:22] <macksfield> I'm an ubuntu noob, looking for some leads so I can google-fu
[06:25] <Bashing-om> xcom169: State the issue, see what we can do .
[07:03] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:03] <knightwise> how are you guys doing ?
[07:05] <bazhang> knightwise, here for ubuntu support?
[08:02] <Gusteru> hello, anyone can help me with this ? https://prnt.sc/gxlrh7 I want to downgrade from 7.0.22 to 5.3.27 . Thank you !
[08:04] <xcom169> hello all!
[08:05] <xcom169> Do you know what it can be if my screen is blank, and only the cursor blinking during restart?
[08:50] <scoopex> i am using a ubuntu 16.04 system which runs its root partition (includes /grub) on a sofware-raid-1 and lvm. after i changed one disk grub halts with the message like "...cannot find disk lvmid/UUID-OF_THE-DISK"....i alread perfomed grub-install/update-grub on the system but had no luck to repair the system.....
[08:51] <Gusteru> https://prnt.sc/gxm14o what I need to do ?
[08:52] <scoopex> any hints?
[09:30] <AndroUser> can someone guide me through adding swap space permanently
[09:30] <EriC^^> AndroUser: are you trying to make a swap partition or swap file?
[09:31] <AndroUser> partition, it's already made and formatted.
[09:31] <EriC^^> AndroUser: ok, type "lsblk -fs | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link
[09:32] <EriC^^> AndroUser: type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 as well
[09:33] <AndroUser> termbin.com/2hty
[09:34] <EriC^^> AndroUser: type nano /etc/fstab and add the line "UUID=327d218a-1bf2-4152-95ad-d3fe69bc570d none swap sw 0 0"
[09:34] <EriC^^> *sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:34] <AndroUser> termbin.com/slsn2
[09:35] <AndroUser> nano is CLI right?
[09:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:35] <AndroUser> meh.. alright
[09:36] <AndroUser> including or not including quotes?
[09:38] <EriC^^> AndroUser: without quotes
[09:40] <AndroUser> my fstab has the UUID of my old swap partition (commented out)
[09:40] <AndroUser> safe to just replace?
[09:40] <EriC^^> AndroUser: yeah
[09:43] <nickman> Hi
[09:44] <nickman> I want to access terminal from my android phone. How can I ?
[09:44] <AndroUser> does the quantity of spaces between each item matter?
[09:44] <AndroUser> nickman, download any "terminal emulator" from Google play
[09:45] <ikonia> nickman: ask in #android
[09:45] <nickman> I want to open one port
[09:45] <ikonia> nickman: ask in #android
[09:45] <nickman> And then access softwares from my os
[09:45] <ikonia> nickman: ask in #android
[09:46] <AndroUser> eric?
[09:47] <AndroUser> how do I exit nano while keeping changes?
[09:47] <nickman> I want to access my Ubuntu's terminal not any other terminal availed by emulator
[09:47] <nickman> Ctrl + x androuser
[09:47] <ikonia> nickman: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[09:47] <ikonia> nickman: android is not ubunt, we don't support it here
[09:48] <nickman> ikonia wait
[09:48] <ikonia> nickman: so if you need help configuring your android device, please ask in #android
[09:48] <nickman> Lets someone other handle my question
[09:48] <ikonia> nickman: no
[09:48] <nickman> If you don't understand
[09:48] <ikonia> nickman: ask in #android
[09:48] <ikonia> nickman: or explain how this is anything to do with #ubuntu
[09:48] <nickman> You are making me really irritated
[09:49] <nickman> I have written there i want to access my Ubuntu's terminal
[09:49] <ikonia> nickman: option a.) ask in #android option b.) explain how your question is anything to do with #ubuntu
[09:49] <nickman> Which is installed on my laptop
[09:49] <ikonia> nickman: ok - so you need port 22 open on your ubuntu machine and the sshd daemon running on your ubuntu machine
[09:49] <ikonia> nickman: you can manage that with ufw
[09:50] <nickman> And on android ?
[09:50] <ikonia> ask in #android
[09:50] <ikonia> you need port 22 outbound
[09:50] <ikonia> how you do that the a
[09:50] <nickman> Where to type my command
[09:50] <ikonia> how you do that the #android guys will tell you
[09:50] <ikonia> nickman: the #android guys will tell you how to configure your android device to ssh out
[09:51] <greyline> hi all
[09:51] <greyline> https://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error
[09:51] <greyline> the accepted answer doesn't solve my problem
[09:51] <ikonia> greyline: just ask a question, don't post askubuntu links
[09:52] <greyline> since after insmod normal I get back the original error message
[09:52] <AndroUser> should fstab changes be saved in dos or mac format, and what key combo selects them? not quite sure if it's asking to press M and D or if they signify something else
[09:52] <ikonia> greyline: if I wanted to support ask ubuntu I'd use askubuntu, so please explain what you want
[09:52] <greyline> okay
[09:52] <greyline> What to do when I get an “attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'” error?
[09:52] <ikonia> greyline: outside of disk ?
[09:53] <greyline> set root, set prefix and insmod normal doesn't solve my problem
[09:53] <greyline> ikonia: yeah
[09:53] <ikonia> greyline: what ??
[09:53] <ikonia> set root ? set prefix ? what ar eyou talking about
[09:53] <ikonia> greyline: what is your actual problem
[09:53] <greyline> ikonia: that's why I linked that forum, but you said I shouldn't....
[09:53] <ikonia> greyline: right, so "tell me" the problem
[09:54] <ikonia> greyline: if I wanted to contribute to askubuntu, I would, but I don't see you have to engage with the IRC community on IRC
[09:54] <ikonia> greyline: or wait for someone on askubuntu who gives you an answer you want
[09:54] <greyline> ikonia: okay, so when I try to start the ubuntu, grub rescue starts and it says "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"
[09:54] <AndroUser> I could be completely wrong but it sounds like you may have tried moving the start sector of a partition, or have misaligned partition
[09:54] <ikonia> greyline: so ubuntu won't boot and you get a grub error
[09:54] <greyline> ikonia: yeah
[09:55] <ikonia> greyline: so that warning is normally that it things the disk is different "shape" than it actually is
[09:55] <ikonia> as AndroUser said it's trying to read data from "outside" where the disk actually is
[09:56] <ikonia> (and failing for obvious reasons)
[09:56] <greyline> ikonia: no clicking sound from the hdd at all, and yesterday it worked perfectly
[09:57] <ikonia> greyline: is the hard disk actually working ?
[09:57] <greyline> ikonia: yesterday it was working perfectly (although I didn't checked that with any software, but the OS worked, and I could use that without problems)
[09:58] <ikonia> greyline: is it working today
[09:58] <ikonia> greyline: I'm not interested if it used to work
[09:58] <greyline> ikonia: I don't know....
[09:58] <ikonia> greyline: ok, so that would be a good thing to validate
[09:59] <greyline> ikonia: okay, I figure out that somehow
[09:59] <greyline> ikonia: I mean about how to validate that
[09:59] <alkisg> Boot from a live cd and see
[09:59] <ikonia> greyline: boot a livecd and mount/interact with the disk
[09:59] <alkisg> From the live cd you can also reinstall grub
[09:59] <ikonia> greyline: there are also hard disk tools
[10:00] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) should fstab changes be saved in dos or mac format, and what key combo selects them? not quite sure if it's asking to press M and D or if they signify something else
[10:01] <alkisg> In linux format
[10:01] <alkisg> Not in dos, not in mac
[10:01] <AndroUser> there is no linux format available
[10:02] <alkisg> Use nano, pluma, vi etc
[10:02] <AndroUser> get help, dos format, append, backup file
[10:02] <AndroUser> in the top row
[10:02] <AndroUser> cancel, mac format, prepend, to files
[10:02] <AndroUser> bottom row
[10:03] <AndroUser> this is using nano
[10:04] <alkisg> The default format is linux
[10:04] <alkisg> So no worry about format
[10:04] <AndroUser> so what should I be doing at this screen =/
[10:06] <AndroUser> previous person that was helping went silent at a potentially dangerous time for my floptop
[10:08] <AndroUser> *sigh
[10:08] <akik> AndroUser: don't change the format, just save it. you can check after saving that the line ending is a \n "od -c /etc/fstab"
[10:10] <AndroUser> not quite sure how to go about checking that last bit, but I'm stuck in the process of trying to save changes. this is why I hate CLI lol
[10:10] <AndroUser> already did CTRL + X and now I have no idea what keys it's asking me to press to "just save"
[10:10] <AndroUser> CLI is extremely esoteric
[10:11] <greyline> alkisg: okay, so should I reinstall the grub and check the disk itself?
[10:11] <greyline> alkisg: what commands should I use?
[10:11] <akik> AndroUser: press y
[10:11] <EriC^^> AndroUser: hey, sorry was away
[10:12] <AndroUser> that changed file name to write to /etc/fstaby
[10:12] <akik> AndroUser: and after y, just press enter
[10:12] <AndroUser> I suppose backspace that "y" and hit enter lol
[10:12] <akik> loly
[10:12] <AndroUser> now, sudo swapon? :)
[10:15] <AndroUser> the suspense was killin me so I did the above. had no effect. no swap active :(
[10:15] <akik> AndroUser: you can run sudo swapon -a
[10:16] <AndroUser> bingo!
[10:17] <alexas> hello i need to install windows along ubuntu how to do this with less pain, windows 7, i have solely ubuntu 18 on my laptop at the momnt
[10:17] <alexas> moment*
[10:17] <ikonia> I doubt you have ubuntu 18 on your lapotp
[10:17] <akik> there's no ubuntu 18
[10:17] <ikonia> the easy option is to install windows - then install ubuntu
[10:17] <ikonia> it will make it easier
[10:18] <alexas> sorry ubuntu 17, no i can't do that
[10:18] <alexas> i would like to install windows along, i spend too much time configuring stuff
[10:18] <alexas> i can boot from usb and resize partition i think, right?
[10:19] <alkisg> greyline: yes sure you can try to reinstall grub
[10:19] <alexas> i only thinking about boot manager at the moment
[10:19] <greyline> alkisg: but how? sudo apt-get remove grub?
[10:19] <alkisg> !grub
[10:20] <alkisg> First link there should have enough info
[10:20] <alexas> alkisg: thank you i hope it will work
[10:20] <alkisg> alexas: actually I was talking to greyline, but that matches your case too :)
[10:21] <alexas> ah well yeah
[10:32] <AndroUser> I have another question. I installed "apache2-bin" and "libapache2-mod-dnssd" a week ago and ever since, I've been getting system error pop ups "A problem has occurred" and occasionally "Ubuntu has experienced an internal error"
[10:32] <AndroUser> I have no proof they're the cause, but I'm fairly certain they're it.
[10:33] <AndroUser> about to remove with synaptic, should I "remove" or "completely remove"
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> AndroUser: when you get an internal error, you can unfold it to see whats it about
[10:36] <AndroUser> yes, I have. honestly I cannot remember what it said but the errors were literally brand new following these 2 installs, which are not included by default in Ubuntu
[10:37] <AndroUser> they're for network folder sharing similar to Samba, but instead natively through Nautilus (and it's very buggy)
[10:38] <AndroUser> at any rate, I'm just going to try my luck at "remove"
[10:39] <dax> AndroUser: only difference is that "completely remove" also nukes any systemwide config files installed by the package
[10:40] <AndroUser> dang. think I should have done that instead? lol
[10:41] <dax> shouldn't matter much in this case
[10:41] <AndroUser> just finished reboot. now to see if the errors cease
[10:42] <AndroUser> ugh... nope
[10:43] <AndroUser> it's /usr/sbin/unity/greeter
[10:43] <AndroUser> maybe this problem will resolve itself in 17.10 with unity going bye bye? :)
[10:49] <wook_> unity is disappearing? WOOHOO!
[10:49] <wook_> what are they replacing it with? GNOME3?
[10:49] <AndroUser> you must have consulted agent google
[10:51] <dax> wook_: yes
[10:52] <dax> https://didrocks.fr/ has a bunch of blog posts and screenshots about it
[11:03] <Cooler> hello
[11:03] <Cooler> how do i access a folder i don't have perms for?
[11:03] <Cooler> from nautilus
[11:03] <akik> Cooler: you need to provide more details
[11:06] <akik> no?
[11:16] <akik> i hope nothing bad happened to cooler
[11:23] <EriC^^> akik: he just encountered nautilus bug #4223 abduction by aliens
[11:24] <tdk2fe> So I was kinda curious as to how to actually get the wayland gnome-shell up and running in the 17.10 beta
[11:24] <EriC^^> ubottu is in on it, don't believe him ;)
[11:24] <tdk2fe> seems my only options after the dist-upgrade is Unty on Xorg and Gnome on Xorg, then standard 'Unity'
[11:25] <tdk2fe> 17.10 beta*
[11:41] <bryanfrommacau> hi
[11:41] <ducasse> <117.10 | tdk2fe
[11:41] <ducasse> !17.10 | tdk2fe
[11:48] <Cooler> akik: i try to access a folder in nautilus and it has a cross over its icon
[11:48] <Cooler> and when i click it i get a permission denied error
[11:48] <Cooler> how do i open that folder?
[11:49] <Cooler> in the properties for the folder, it says i am not the owner
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:50] <akik> Cooler: are you familiar with the linux permission model?
[11:50] <ducasse> !permissions | Cooler
[11:52] <Cooler> yeah if you are the owner to can change who has access
[11:53] <Cooler> do i have to use the terminal for this?
[11:53] <Cooler> can't i do this from nautilus?
[11:53] <akik> Cooler: could you run "ls -ld problem_dir" that would make it clear what needs to be done
[11:54] <Cooler> drwx--x--x 12 root root 4096 Oct 14 10:33 docker
[11:55] <akik> Cooler: is that /var/lib/docker ? that's how it's supposed to be
[11:56] <Cooler> akik: yup /var/lib/docker
[11:56] <Cooler> store the volumes inside that folder
[11:56] <Cooler> i need to access the volumes
[11:57] <akik> Cooler: you can change to root with "sudo -i" and then access it
[11:57] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> Hello all
[11:58] <kunji> Cooler: I mean... you probably could use nautilus, but running nautilus as root isn't really recommended.
[11:59] <Cooler> well i want a gui interface
[11:59] <akik> a gui interface for managing docker?
[11:59] <Cooler> to manage the volumes, put stuff inside them
[12:00] <Cooler> and take stuff out
[12:00] <kunji> Cooler: Docker isn't quite so straightforward as that....
[12:00] <Cooler> i know, they like to complicate things for no reason
[12:01] <akik> Cooler: try "sudo -i nautilus" if that works for you
[12:02] <kunji> Cooler: It isn't for no reason....  it's because they're trying to do container virtualization in an at least somewhat secure way.
[12:02] <akik> docker is usually managed in the terminal/shell
[12:03] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> ve thoughtI about viruakizing windows ten on topof Ubuntu 17.04 freshh install
[12:05] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> Is there a way ti share fi;le & printers between ubuntu and OSX other than samba?
[12:05] <Cooler> uh oh
[12:05] <Cooler> i somehow got rid of the taksbar
[12:05] <Cooler> the taskbar
[12:05] <kunji> Cooler: You can't just write into a docker image in nautilus per se.... you could do what you're trying for a folder you subsequently mount to your docker image, but I see no need for root in that case.
[12:05] <Cooler> what key combination did i press?
[12:05] <Cooler> how do i bring it back?
[12:06] <Cooler> the launcher bar? on the left
[12:06] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> Is there a port of fluxbox for ubuntu?
[12:06] <Cooler> help
[12:06] <kunji> Cooler: No idea, which desktop manager are you using?  I still won't know but it will probably help someone else answer.
[12:06] <akik> Droid_Dolphin_Wa: yes it's called fluxbox :)
[12:06] <Cooler> ubuntu 16.04 lts
[12:06] <Cooler> gnome?
[12:07] <Cooler> unity i think
[12:07] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> akik: Its 17.04 testing for now
[12:07] <kunji> Cooler: I don't think there is a standard key combination to make it disappear....
[12:08] <Cooler> oh i just pressed f11
[12:08] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> Because I can get m4p/ itunes music playback  with gstreamer plugins uglu
[12:08] <Droid_Dolphin_Wa> Because I can get m4p/ itunes music playback  with gstreamer plugins ugly ^^
[12:08] <kunji> Cooler: I would try saving everything you have open, then try logging out then back in.  Could be a GUI bug, did apport ask to send a bug report?
[12:44] <nickjj> does anyone know how i can get ubuntu server to remember my gpg passphrase on every ssh login?
[12:45] <nickjj> i vaguely remember using some gnome keyring util when i last installed ubuntu desktop like 4 years ago but i don't know if it'll work on the command line
[12:46] <ReedK0> what's gpg?
[12:47] <nickjj> ReedK0, https://gnupg.org/
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> !gpg
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> nickjj: maybe also try the #ubuntu-server channel
[12:48] <ReedK0> question!  I'm starting a react.js project on my ubuntu server.  waht's a good location to store my project?
[12:48] <nickjj> lotuspsychje, thanks
[12:49] <ReedK0> any paid developer channel for ubuntu?
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> ReedK0: there's #ubuntu-devel but not sure for the paid part, maybe they know?
[12:50] <jeremy31> It would be on freenode IRC servers
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !canonical | ReedK0 maybe check here also
[12:55] <wook_> so i'm looking for some good suggestions for motherboards for a desktop that i want to build, i plan to use ubuntu server and maybe a virtual box win7, i want lots of slots for expansion, any suggestions?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> wook_: perhaps try ##hardware better
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> wook_: ubuntu server would run on most hardware
[12:56] <ReedK0> canonical okay looking
[13:02] <freakyy> how do i use snaps i mean, how do i find good apps packaged with snap?
[13:06] <thrmo> Hey! If i were to install 17.10 Beta 2 after the final release of 17.10 would I have access to those repos?
[13:07] <freakyy> thrmo: to which repos? if u install the beta u have access to the 17.10 repos which upgrade to latest version, release or later
[13:07] <thrmo> or the daily builds, for that matter.
[13:08] <freakyy> u can apt update && apt upgrade && apt dist-upgrade and so update the packages to their latest current up2date version
[13:08] <thrmo> freakyy: my question is, will I be able to continue using it, or would i have to do a clean install?
[13:08] <freakyy> or use the ubuntu "updates" gui
[13:08] <freakyy> program
[13:08] <thrmo> ty
[13:08] <thrmo> so should I go for daily or beta2?
[13:09] <freakyy> thrmo: if u install 17.10 beta u can continue using it. u will always be able to update the packages to their latest current version
[13:10] <freakyy> thrmo: id use daily that way u have bugfixes that might distur
[13:10] <freakyy> b ur
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu+1 for artful issues please
[13:10] <freakyy> disturb ur installation
[13:11] <ReedK0> is /srv/react a bad place for react projects?
[13:11] <ikonia> ReedK0: we went through this the other day with you
[13:11] <ikonia> ReedK0: a.) it's personal choice b.) you have wasted a partition covering /srv as a seperate partition
[13:12] <ikonia> none of the applications will use /srv by default so unless you manually re-configure them all to use /srv (including things like apparmor rules) it won't benifit from it
[13:12] <freakyy> thrmo: so yes u will be able to continue that daily-build version and uipdate the packages to release and post release versions ;D
[13:12] <ikonia> that said, you can store anything you want in /srv
[13:12] <freakyy> *continue to use
[13:12] <thrmo> ty
[13:12] <freakyy> sorry i just woke up ;D
[13:13] <freakyy> thrmo: for example, im using 17.10 daily build right now. and i do upgrade my system daily so i have the latest versions, bugfixes, features etc. ;D
[13:13] <thrmo> ok, is unity still supported in 17.10?
[13:14] <freakyy> its supported i think. u may install it ive read somewhere. but it has some drawbacks like afaik its not actively developed anymore
[13:14] <freakyy> id use the gnome-shell stuff
[13:14] <freakyy> it looks good want a screenshot?
[13:14] <freakyy> unity was stopped beeing worked on
[13:14] <freakyy> they switched to gnome-shell
[13:14] <freakyy> in ubuntu 17.10 the first time
[13:15] <freakyy> merged ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu so to say
[13:16] <thrmo> sure, show me a screenshot
[13:16] <freakyy> i find it was a good step. it looks all so cool now ;D
[13:16] <freakyy> thrmo: wait
[13:16] <ReedK0> anyone? yes/no?
[13:17] <freakyy> https://www.freakyonline.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Ubuntu-17.10-2.png <-- here, ubuntu 17.10 on my laptop with some icon theme and cursor theme
[13:17] <akik> why does old kernel removal trigger the need for a system restart? (/var/run/reboot-required.pkgs contains "linux-base")
[13:17] <ikonia> akik: I don't think it's "old kernel" I think it's "kernel change"
[13:17] <ikonia> akik: it probably just gets caught as "kernel change" which would require  reboot
[13:18] <akik> ikonia: i installed a new kernel and rebooted earlier, but now just removed an old kernel
[13:18] <ikonia> akik: right, it's probably just a sloppy hook
[13:19] <thrmo> thanks freakyy it has a very unity look to it
[13:19] <freakyy> thrmo: yes and if u move the cursor into the upper left corner and click, it shows the gnome-shell :)
[13:19] <freakyy> thrmo: btw, if u have questions about ubuntu 17.10 pls join #ubuntu+1
[13:20] <thrmo> sure, tks
[13:20] <freakyy> np ;D
[13:21] <freakyy> i love ubuntu ;D its the perfect os ... i mean, i play on windows but linux is just amazing especially ubuntu. i use ubuntu on my laptop, desktop and ubuntu-server on my server ;D
[13:26] <Droid2BSD> I've tried Freebsd/TrueOS. Debian and Windows but I keep comming back to Ubuntu so kudos to the ubuntu team
[13:26] <freakyy> ;D
[13:27] <Droid2BSD> Is thers e a low latency kernel for 17.04/10
[13:27] <freakyy> yes ubuntu is really well done. it is userfriendly and has all the neat linux command line stuff aswell. its on top of debian so has the double of work
[13:27] <freakyy> i dont know
[13:35] <noob_on_rails> hey all! , i just ran a 7z a foldername
[13:35] <noob_on_rails> is there any default place where 7z puts files?
[13:35] <atomo> p7zip-full ?
[13:36] <Tin_man> normally below the directory you ran the command.
[13:36] <atomo> yes yes
[13:37] <noob_on_rails> hmm i thought the same too let me search again
[13:39] <noob_on_rails> and they do end at *.7z ?
[13:40] <noob_on_rails> ah w/e i think ill re-run with destination
[14:38] <Odd_> Hey. I'm trying to make a soft symlink between a file from one place to another. I'm currently running "sudo ln -s /home/user/folder/file.jar /home/user/folder/file.jar, where the second is the source with the name I want and the first is the target. As a response I get "failed to create symbolic link "second path": No such file or directory". Coul
[14:38] <Odd_> d someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[14:38] <Odd_> Tried to follow some guides online but I still seem to get the issue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:38] <alkisg> ln -s target symlink
[14:39] <lordcirth> Odd_, sounds like the directory you're trying to make the link in doesn't exist
[14:39] <alkisg> You have the same path in both target and dest
[14:39] <lordcirth> That too, but I assumed you were just censoring it
[14:39] <alkisg> *and symlink
[14:39] <Odd_> It does though. Because I'm looking at it.
[14:39] <Odd_> Did censor paths, yeah.
[14:40] <Odd_> Usernames are different.
[14:40] <lordcirth> Odd_, sure you didn't typo it?  Any spaces or special characters in it?
[14:40] <lordcirth> Oh, what about permissions, if it's different users?  Are you root?
[14:40] <Odd_> I'll write it again, for the fourth time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:40] <Odd_> Running with sudo. So should be rooted.
[14:41] <lordcirth> And you're using absolute paths like your example?
[14:42] <wook_> what's the difference between writing '&&' and ' | ' between commands?
[14:42] <Odd_> Uh. Rewrote it. It worked.
[14:42] <lordcirth> wook_, A && B means, run A, if it succeeds, run B.
[14:42] <Odd_> I can't see I wrote something wrong though.
[14:42] <lordcirth> wook_, A | B means run A, take its output, and feed it into B's input
[14:43] <lordcirth> wook_, A || B, which you might have meant, means run A, if it fails, run B.
[14:43] <Cat_BPRM> Hello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this?
[14:44] <wook_> so if i run a wget for instance followed by a dpkg -i, when i ran it as && it couldn't figure it out, but if i had run wget ____ | dpkg -i _____ it would work?
[14:44] <lordcirth> wook_, && and || are in fact boolean AND and OR operators
[14:44] <wook_> ohhhhh
[14:44] <lordcirth> wook_, I don't see a need to use a pipe | for that
[14:45] <lordcirth> wget <link> -O <filename> && dpkg -i <filename>
[14:46] <wook_> i ran it like this:
[14:46] <wook_> wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb && sudo dpkg -i -y skype-install.deb
[14:46] <wook_> ohhhh i see what was the problem
[14:46] <wook_> the -y
[14:47] <wook_> oh well, i ran it as wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb , then ran sudo dpkg -i -y skype-install.deb then ran sudo apt-get install -f
[14:47] <wook_> everything worked, i was just curious about the && and ||
[14:47] <jas> o_O
[14:47] <wook_> jas: what o_0
[14:56] <cat_bprm> Hello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this? also, now i cant load steam for some reason
[14:57] <krish300> Hi, having trouble with setting up wireless pci card
[14:57] <krish300> could someone help?
[15:01] <jeremy31> What wireless card?
[15:02] <krish300> TP-LINK WN851ND
[15:04] <jeremy31>  what does lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net; rfkill   show?  Paste results at paste.ubuntu.com and post the URL
[15:04] <jeremy31> rfkill list
[15:06] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know where the ubuntu 16.04 source code is?
[15:06] <atomo> hi!!
[15:10] <krish300> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25746148/
[15:12] <oerheks> gt8ost4l, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/source/
[15:13] <gt8ost4l> oerhoks: i already tried that
[15:13] <gt8ost4l> it just extracts composed files
[15:14] <cat_bprm> Failed to find matching visual
[15:14] <cat_bprm> misclick
[15:14] <cat_bprm> sorry
[15:14] <oerheks> gt8ost4l, and just search for launchpad + 16.04 + <package> + source
[15:15] <gt8ost4l> oerheks fill in the blanks
[15:16] <oerheks> gt8ost4l, ??
[15:17] <oerheks> not all sources are available, some parts are closed source
[15:18] <gt8ost4l> so your saying that just the kernel is available
[15:18] <gt8ost4l> i found something thats relating to it
[15:18] <gt8ost4l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode]
[15:18] <oerheks> gt8ost4l, no, seems like you did not search at all
[15:18] <gt8ost4l> is that it?
[15:19] <gt8ost4l> i did
[15:19] <oerheks> What do you want to do with the sourcecode anyway? " it just extracts composed files" makes no sense to me
[15:21] <gt8ost4l> oerheks: i mean when you extract the iso it ejust xtracts folders with compressed archieves
[15:21] <gt8ost4l> sorry
[15:22] <cat_bprm> Hello, i have nvidia prime, i have used command: sudo prime-select nvidia and when i do sudo prime-select query it shows up as nvidia but when i load steam and check the system information, it says skylake 520 intel integrated... how can i fix this? also, now i cant load steam for some reason
[15:22] <gt8ost4l> and it doesnt measure up to 4.0gb
[15:24] <oerheks> there are 4 isos on that page, together they contain the full sourcecode for the live iso, that is about 1.5 gb
[15:24] <gt8ost4l> well when you extract it it adds up to twice that
[15:25] <gt8ost4l> well no mtwice
[15:25] <gt8ost4l> twice
[15:25] <gt8ost4l> but you know what im saying
[15:25] <oerheks> What is our problem with that? compressed sourcecode takes less space on the server, and speeds up downloading
[15:26] <gt8ost4l> if you had a loook you would know what im saying
[15:26] <gt8ost4l> but why would you waste your preious time?
[15:27] <gt8ost4l> its alot of hard work conanicle put to coding that source code
[15:27] <gt8ost4l> puts
[15:28] <oerheks> Now you have the source, compressed, what is your problem with that?
[15:29] <gt8ost4l> its not a problem
[15:29] <oerheks> i really like to answer questions, if i could understand
[15:29]  * [n0mad] doesn't know either
[15:30] <gt8ost4l> oerheks what do you dont understand
[15:30] <gt8ost4l> clarify
[15:30] <[n0mad]> what your question/problem is...
[15:30] <gt8ost4l> i        told you already
[15:30] <gt8ost4l> sorry for that
[15:31] <gt8ost4l> its the source code doesnt measure up to what you downloaded
[15:31] <gt8ost4l> it doesnt measure up
[15:32] <gt8ost4l>  you said it plain and simple it compressed files
[15:32] <oerheks> 4 iso's x 4 bg compressed, ends up as 32 gb sourcecode uncompressed, install build essentials, and headers, and use build-dep to obtain libraries to build it like canonical does
[15:33] <oerheks> it takes a few days on a dual-core
[15:33] <gt8ost4l> oerheks: are you serious
[15:33] <gt8ost4l> i thought it would just amoun to 8gbs
[15:35] <oerheks> gt8ost4l, yes i am serious, you will end up with the iso that is about 1.5 gb ( x86_64 or i386)
[15:35] <oerheks> like here, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[15:39] <gt8ost4l> oerheks:what is propriety out of what you said?
[15:39] <gt8ost4l> i thought all of it was open source
[15:41] <ioria> nvidia binary, restricted-extras-codecs and  something else
[15:44] <oerheks> Some parts of the kernel are still closed source, and some drivers like qualcom
[15:45] <oerheks> nvidia drivers, adobe flash, fluendo codecs (but the mp3 license just expired)
[15:49] <ioria> but you can choose  the "free software only" option , during installation
[15:49] <ieg> Quick question.  I have a fairly fresh install of 16.04.  Everything has been working, but after a reboot today.  Some of my applications won't launch - they just spin.  When I launch from terminal I receive this error: udev_enumerate_scan failed
[15:58] <ikonia> ieg: sounds like a disk problem of some sort
[16:00] <DrManhattan> ieg you should check your system logs and it should give you a decent idea of where to start looking
[16:13] <BluesKaj> leg have you updated and upgraded today?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> too late
[16:35] <saint_cussed> hi
[16:35] <alkisg> Hello
[16:36] <saint_cussed> why ubuntu is that much cool?
[16:36] <saint_cussed> I love it
[16:37] <oerheks> :-)
[16:37] <alkisg> I think it has a secret ingredient
[16:37] <oerheks> !info redshift
[16:38] <saint_cussed> I'm waiting for the official 17.10
[16:38] <saint_cussed> now I'm using beta
[16:39] <saint_cussed> and it's damn cute now
[16:40] <saint_cussed> is it upgradable from beta?
[16:41] <alkisg> Sure
[16:42] <saint_cussed> it's been epic with gnome
[16:42] <Anticom> Hey guys. I've just copied my RSA keys to my new machine. ssl-add -l shows all of them. However i can't ssh to any of my machines :/
[16:43] <Anticom> What am i missing?
[16:49] <strive> Anticom: I think that's just locally. I've always used ssh-copy-id
[16:49] <Anticom> strive: ?
[16:49] <Anticom> What exactly is just locally? And what do you mean with locally?
[16:50] <strive> Maybe someone could jump in on this, but, ssh-add — adds private key identities to the authentication agent
[16:51] <strive> That authentication agent is on your local machine; not on your server?
[16:51] <pankaj_> Now, I am obsessed. Firefox is not responding and always works like an old man (very slowly and pauses at random time). What should I do? Well I still want to use firefox only.
[16:51] <strive> Anticom: Whereas, ssh-copy-id — use locally available keys to authorise logins on a remote machine
[16:51] <Anticom> strive: yea i just thought i'd try to add them again manually
[16:51] <Anticom> i got: Permissions 0644 for '/home/anticom/.ssh/id_rsa' are too open. \\ It is required that your private key files are NOT accessible by others.
[16:52] <strive> Anticom: Mine are 644.
[16:52] <Anticom> strive: can you please check what the key's fileperms are supposed to be?
[16:52] <Anticom> hm
[16:53] <oerheks> maybe you need to restart the sshd on the service > sudo systemctl restart sshd
[16:53] <strive> Woops, 644 for pub and 600 for private.
[16:53] <Anticom> oerheks: i've rebooted the entire laptop to make sure :D
[16:53] <Anticom> strive: cheers
[16:53]  * strive sips on coffee.
[16:53] <strive> Anticom: :)
[16:54] <Anticom> strive: yep, that was it
[16:54] <strive> Check to see if your sshd_config on the server is set to "StrictModes yes"
[16:55] <strive> Anticom: Oh, awesome :)
[16:56] <strive> The option StrictModes specifies whether ssh should check user's permissions in their home directory and rhosts files before accepting login. This option must always be set to yes because sometimes users may accidentally leave their directory or files world-writable.
[16:56] <Anticom> still can't connect to github :/
[17:04] <Anticom> I don't get this
[17:04] <Anticom> is there any cmd i can run to diagnose?
[17:05] <Anticom> ssh agent is offering my id_rsa but for some reason it's considered not valid anymore
[17:05] <lasers> Hi ubuntu. If somebody have updates to do, can somebody pastebin the output of 'apt-get upgrade --just-print -V' ? I'm looking for a nice example to cherrypick. That's all!
[17:06] <Anticom> wait what
[17:07] <Anticom> lasers: why can't you run this yourself?
[17:07] <lasers> I don't use Ubuntu, but improved a script for Debian-based distribtions.
[17:08] <lasers> And the LiveCD I have... is outdated.
[17:09] <oerheks> lasers, ask in #debian ?
[17:10] <lasers> oerheks: Hmm. I'll wait a bit. If nothing turns up, it's okay (not important). Thx for the idea.
[17:10] <oerheks> lasers, or install ubuntu and go wild
[17:11] <oerheks> i wonder what you would gain with the output of update/upgrade
[17:17] <Anticom> lasers: well sorry, but have no updates available. I guess an empty upgrade won't yield much for you
[17:17] <ikonia> this is poor development
[17:18] <ikonia> if you can't even be bothered to install an OS to get your use cases for your "good example" for development, it's not for this channel
[17:18] <Anticom> oerheks: why does it matter? if lasers is contributing in any shape way or form to linux why not give a helping hand?
[17:18] <ikonia> please don't ask again
[17:18] <ikonia> Anticom: this channel is for ubuntu specific support, not debian based generic linux tool lazy research
[17:18] <Anticom> and you guys can't be bothered to run a cmd that takes you like a few seconds
[17:18] <lasers> Anticom: Yeah, that's fine.... oerheks: Nothing, just looking for something recent to put in the script.
[17:19] <Anticom> we're all one community regardless of the distro
[17:19]  * Anticom sighs
[17:19] <ikonia> Anticom: no, it's not
[17:19] <ikonia> Anticom: it's an ubuntu technical support channel
[17:19] <Anticom> i've seen a lot of offtopic in a lot of channels in the recent years
[17:19] <Anticom> here aswell
[17:19] <oerheks> "(sudo) apt-get upgrade --just-print -V" gives a prompt ..
[17:19] <ikonia> Anticom: no you've not, as thats why we have #ubuntu-offtopic and people are taken to there if they are offtopic
[17:20] <oerheks> oh, my bad, i copied the ' at the end :-D
[17:44] <lfowlr> are arch packages more secure than ubuntu's or less?
[17:44] <lfowlr> anyoneknows/
[17:46] <isene> With kernel 4.10.0-21-generic I can do ' cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity ' but with the latest kernel 4.10.0-37-generic it hangs. Also, I cannot do ' sudo systemctl suspend ' with the latest (but this does work with the older 4.10.0-21-generic). HW = Dell XPS 15 (Ubuntu 17.04 up-to-date). Any ideas why this is?
[17:48] <brainwash> isene: what error(s) do you get?
[17:48] <brainwash> ideally, check journalctl also
[17:54] <FMan> hi
[17:55] <oerheks> isene, 4.10.0-21 is not the latest, run sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[17:55] <oerheks> lfowlr, ask in #arch too, you would be surprised :-D
[17:56] <oerheks> isene, current is 4.10.0-37 https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/kernel/
[17:58] <brainwash> oerheks: please reread what isene has written
[18:01] <oerheks> oh, he got the latest..
[18:03] <lfowlr> oerheks: tell me about it.
[18:03] <lfowlr> i asked there. they didn't say me much.
[18:04] <oerheks> i would say, as secure as
[18:05] <OneEyedGlocker> I had an issue earlier where some of my applications would not launch.  The terminal error showed udev_enumerate_scan_failed.  After further investigation - this error was only when launching an application installed via snap.  I remove snap applications and purge snap.  I reinstalled my applications without snap and they are working fine.
[18:06] <OneEyedGlocker> Just FYI in case anyone else runs into the issue.... not a fix, but a workaround
[18:07] <brainwash> OneEyedGlocker: sounds like something that should be reported as bug
[18:07] <oerheks> OneEyedGlocker, care to share *what* snap exactly?
[18:08] <OneEyedGlocker> two snaps - hiri and discord
[18:08] <lfowlr> oerheks: so both are equally secure/
[18:08] <oerheks> and why starting from terminal, and not use the starter?
[18:08] <pingwindyktator> there is an ancient pack(1) package currently not available in moderd systems, but gzip man says it can decompress packed files. any idea how to get this pack package?
[18:08] <lfowlr> in what way is that - you;d be surprised thing.
[18:09] <oerheks> lfowlr, both package systems are secure, yes.
[18:09] <OneEyedGlocker> I tried from starter and the apps looked like they would load (just spin), but then they would disappear.  So, I tried from terminal to get error message.
[18:09] <ioria> OneEyedGlocker, https://askubuntu.com/questions/963947/snap-keepassxc-error-udev-enumerate-scan-failed
[18:10] <RedPenguin> hello all
[18:11] <isene> brainwash: I don't get any errors on the cat - it just hangs
[18:11] <OneEyedGlocker> ioria, yeah I found that earlier - not sure if this is already reported as official bug.
[18:12] <ioria> OneEyedGlocker, you might add your experience there
[18:12] <OneEyedGlocker> Will do right now... thanks
[18:12] <RedPenguin> I have a strange issue that I am not sure where to begin debugging, I'm running Mythbuntu 16.04, and sometimes Kodi will go to a black screen and crash and at the same time Chrome, Opera, and Chromium all refuse to display on the screen, but fine after reboot. Firefox not based on the same libs will start just fine though.
[18:15] <RedPenguin> I tried researching the issue but found nothing, only thing I can figure is some library or driver that is being used by Kodi and Chrome based browsers is messing up
[18:15] <isene> brainwash: As for journalctl - I am on the working -21 kernel as we speak, so I would have to reboot to see the journalctl for the -37 kernel. For now I just wanted to check if anyone had experience with this and could lend me some of their experience. I should add that the -21 kernel will boot fine, but any later kernel must have ' nouveau.modeset=0 ' in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[18:18] <isene> If there are better channels for my questions, please point to some
[18:19] <OneEyedGlocker> ioria - I've added my comments to the post
[18:19] <ioria> OneEyedGlocker, great  tx
[18:22] <ioria> OneEyedGlocker, do you have an nvidia card, by any chances ?
[18:22] <brainwash> ioria: maybe related to bug 1723613
[18:23] <brainwash> isene: ^
[18:24] <brainwash> isene: you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:30] <isene> thanks
[18:56] <hoe`> Hi, what is the most common/standard way to search indexed files on ubuntu? Just by filename is fine.
[18:57] <hoe`> if it matters I'm using WSL.
[19:07] <lordcirth> hoe`, the mlocate package allows you to index files with 'updatedb' and search with 'locate'
[19:10] <hoe`> thank you, I will mess with that.
[19:12] <baxx> what screen shot tool do people use?
[19:13] <baxx> i want something that I can easily grab a screen section with, and have it on the clipboard
[19:13] <lordcirth> baxx, I use Spectacle which comes with Kubuntu
[19:13] <lordcirth> You want the picture to go to clipboard? why?
[19:13] <baxx> lordcirth: because I'm nearly always taking a picture of something to share with someone on line
[19:13] <oerheks> baxx, standard gnome-screenshot works fine, whole screen/current window/select area
[19:13] <baxx> so i'll paste it into an image paste
[19:14] <lasers> baxx: shutter is nice
[19:14] <lordcirth> baxx, that means you're saving it somewhere and then dragging the file?
[19:15] <baxx> lordcirth: no, i wasnt to be able to ctrl-v the selection immediately after
[19:15] <baxx> i don't want to drag a file
[19:15] <lordcirth> baxx, but that's what you're doing now, I mean?
[19:15] <baxx> lordcirth: at the moment i'm not doing anything, i was just wondering which one to use
[19:15] <lordcirth> Oh
[19:16] <hoe`> updatedb has to be run by cron and can't maintain the db from fs change notices?
[19:16] <oerheks> heh, then don't ask what *we* use, but what has the options you *need*
[19:16] <baxx> lordcirth: if i press fn+prt sc then it creates on in my home dir, this is useless to me though
[19:16] <lordcirth> hoe`, correct, it predates inotify.  But it runs very quickly so you can run it frequently
[19:17] <dgpratt> I wanted to run Ubuntu in a VM, so I am experimenting with running a minimal server install of 17.04. On top of that, I installed ubuntu-desktop with --no-install-recommends. But maybe this is too barebones for a non-expert because I don't know how to e.g. run a terminal or other programs from the graphical environment. Also there is no "power" menu that I would expect to see in the upper right next to the clock. Any
[19:17] <dgpratt> thoughts/advice on rectifying these issues?
[19:17] <lordcirth> baxx, perhaps you could change the keybind to take the shot, save it, and copy the file to clipboard?
[19:17] <hoe`> I see. It still seems to fit my use case but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something :)
[19:17] <baxx> lordcirth: it screen shots both screen and saves
[19:17] <lordcirth> dgpratt, non-root users cannot poweroff on Ubuntu Server
[19:17] <baxx> i assumed there would be something already for this task, rather than having to write a script for it
[19:17] <oerheks> dgpratt, then do not use --no-install-recommends if you are unfamilliair with terminal
[19:17] <dgpratt> lordcirth: gtk, thanks
[19:18] <lordcirth> baxx, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233345/how-can-i-easily-make-screenshots-of-screen-regions-on-arch-linux-with-i3-wm/346800#346800
[19:19] <dgpratt> oerheks: I am not completely unfamiliar with terminal, but I am not an expert on Linux terminals certainly. In any case, this is mostly a learning exercise.
[19:19] <lordcirth> dgpratt, recommends would have included gnome-terminal, so you can install that.  sakura is also nice.
[19:19] <dgpratt> lordcirth: ok, thanks
[19:20] <baxx> lordcirth: thanks... gnome-screenshot -ac seems to be ok for now :)
[19:20] <baxx> ( had to install that on Lubuntu , all good )
[19:20] <hoe`> it's probably better it does not monitor because the filesystem emulation in WSL isn't the fastest.
[19:22] <oerheks> !ubuwin
[19:22] <dgpratt> Under gnome, what is the difference (any?) between tapping Alt and then typing a command and Alt+F2, then command. I would have expected one or both to be able to run a command as though I had typed them in at a terminal, but neither seemed to work for what I was trying to do.
[19:27] <ioria> dgpratt, alt is HUD
[19:29] <oerheks> tapping tab or alt f2, does the same AFAIK
[19:37] <RonaldsMazitis> how to change left crtl with windows key
[19:38] <RonaldsMazitis> my crtl button seems to press itself
[19:47] <astory> I'm having trouble running gparted off a live usb - it hangs on "Scanning all devices" for at least an hour.  This seems to be an issue around having a floppy drive being presented by the bios badly, but I don't have one in `fdisk -l` so I'm not sure what's wrong.  Does anyone know a workaround, or another way to format my disk to ext4?
[19:47] <ioria> astory, you can disable floppy in bios
[19:48] <astory> ioria: yes but I *think* it's not enabled
[19:48] <astory> (and rebooting into the live usb will take an hour or more so I'd like to not do that)
[19:48] <astory> I don't have /dev/fd0 either so I think there isn't one
[19:48] <BluesKaj> ast set the hdd as first in the boot sequence in the bios
[19:49] <rainandme> hi, any idea if it is possible to resize a partition using parted to maximum disk space available
[19:49] <BluesKaj> astory,^
[19:49] <astory> BluesKaj: why would the boot sequence affect gparted?
[19:49] <ioria> astory, how much ram do you have ?
[19:49] <astory> ioria: 16 GiB
[19:50] <ioria> astory 16 g, and you have floppy on that pc ?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> astory, good question, but it does
[19:50] <astory> ioria: no, there is not floppy.  I only mentioned it because that's the common thread through the bug posts I found
[19:50] <astory> eg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/155047
[19:51] <ioria> astory    2007
[19:51] <astory> but a) I don't have a floppy and b) that should have been fixed in 2007
[19:51] <alkisg> astory: you can run sudo gparted /dev/sda to limit it to one device
[19:51] <dgpratt> so long story somewhat shorter, I succeeded in making a .desktop file for Firefox that works (Exec=firefox), but attempting to run firefox by tapping Alt, then typing "firefox<enter>" does not work, nor Alt+F2, then "firefox<enter>". If this query is better off in a gnome forum, please let me know.
[19:51] <astory> alkisg: that gives me "Too few arguments.
[19:51] <astory> "
[19:51] <astory> which is puzzling :|
[19:51] <astory> this is a fresh 17.04 live usb
[19:51] <alkisg> astory: is your disk sda?
[19:52] <astory> alkisg: yep
[19:52] <BluesKaj> well,  time to close up shop here
[19:52] <oerheks> dgpratt, how odd, how did you install firefox in the first place??
[19:52] <ioria> astory    can you paste  sudo parted -l ?
[19:53] <oerheks> dgpratt, you are seeking issues with --no-install-recommends
[19:53] <astory> ioria: https://pastebin.com/2GAkVF8H, then launches gparted and hangs
[19:53] <dgpratt> oerheks: I was afraid someone was going to ask me that...I installed it with nix
[19:54] <ioria> astory    sudo parted -l
[19:54] <Scoop7> Hey, what is the difference between cat > and cat <  ?
[19:54] <alkisg> > is output and < is input
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> my crtl button is pressing itself from time to time, is there easy way to switch it with windows key
[19:54] <astory> ioria: whoops, sorry.  one sec
[19:54] <oerheks> dgpratt, and if you installed it with softwarecenter, surely you would get the .desktop file with it. tell us the true way you installed it?
[19:54] <astory> ioria: no output, hanging for ~10 seconds now
[19:55] <RonaldsMazitis> I am not using unity so my windows key is unused anyway
[19:55] <rainandme> https://dpaste.de/kpb8   any idea how to fix this ?
[19:55] <oerheks> are you even on ubuntu?? i doubt it
[19:55] <ioria> astory    sata disconnected ? :þ
[19:55] <astory> ooh and it's ignoring ctrl+C :(
[19:55] <astory> ioria: well I can mount the sata disk that's formatted... and fdisk -l sees them
[19:56] <astory> I wonder if I might have a bad drive?
[19:56] <ioria> astory    i's day something wrong with your disk
[19:56] <ioria> *say
[19:57] <astory> that sounds like the most likely problem.
[19:57] <ioria> astory    change port
[19:58] <astory> yeah will do
[19:58] <dgpratt> oerheks: I'm confused by your question. I installed firefox with nix. In any case, I'm just trying to understand how HUD or whatever commands work in gnome (or don't work in my case). If you or someone has a recommended way to get a minimal graphical environment (e.g. without "office", etc.), I'm interested to hear it.
[19:58] <ioria> dgpratt, how much minimal ?
[19:59] <oerheks> dgpratt, what is *nix* ??
[19:59] <dgpratt> oerheks: https://nixos.org/nix/
[20:00] <RonaldsMazitis> gnome-tweak-tool 16.04 is not helping to switch left crtl and windows key
[20:00] <oerheks> dgpratt, we don't support that.
[20:00] <oerheks> good luck!
[20:00] <dgpratt> oerheks: I'm not asking about nix
[20:00] <Scoop7> is there a difference between "cat < some.txt" vs "cat some.txt"  ?
[20:00] <dgpratt> or anything to do with nix
[20:00] <ducasse> dgpratt: why not use apt, which is supported here?
[20:00] <dgpratt> I'm asking about running commands from gnome desktop
[20:01] <oerheks> dgpratt, yes you do, as you have troubles starting ff installed with an unsupported package manager
[20:01] <RonaldsMazitis> https://askubuntu.com/questions/93624/how-do-i-swap-left-ctrl-with-left-alt-on-my-keyboard
[20:01] <RonaldsMazitis> I guess I have to do this
[20:02] <RonaldsMazitis> only I need different ~/.Xmodmap
[20:02] <oerheks> dgpratt, try ##linux?
[20:03] <RonaldsMazitis> I need windows key not alt
[20:03] <RonaldsMazitis> how my ~/.Xmodmap should look like
[20:03] <lostfile> i think > is when you want to out put the result to a file
[20:03] <dgpratt> oerheks: I disagree that this is related to nix. It's simply a matter of running a program on the PATH from gnome, however it got there doesn't seem very relevant. But I will take your suggestion to ask around ##linux thanks.
[20:04] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: xmodmap is now deprecated by the xkb tools, and not guaranteed to work properly anymore.
[20:05] <RonaldsMazitis> ok so how do I change left crtl to super windows key
[20:06] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: yu need to make a custom keymap with xkbcomp and apply it with setxkbmap
[20:06] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"
[20:06] <RonaldsMazitis> xmodmap -e "add control = Super_L"
[20:06] <RonaldsMazitis> this looks like to work
[20:07] <macksfield> does anyone know a good resource that shows the structural map of ubuntu? like how software is connected to the linux kernal
[20:07] <macksfield> a visual aid
[20:07] <ikonia> macksfield: software isn't
[20:07] <ikonia> macksfield: the kenrel is the kernel,
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> somewhat super key works as crtl in browser and does not in quassel irc client
[20:08] <macksfield> @ikonia but they communicate through some connections, yes?
[20:08] <macksfield> I'm a newb, which is why I was looking for a visual
[20:08] <ikonia> macksfield: if you're new to linux, this is not where you should be starting
[20:10] <Bashing-om> macksfield: A good starting place : http://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/ ??
[20:10] <macksfield> ehhhyy, that's something like what I'm looking for
[20:10] <macksfield> I'm not totally newb in using linux, but I can't say my understanding is very deep
[20:11] <macksfield> thanks Bashing-om
[20:12] <Bashing-om> macksfield: :) It's linux, no one knows it all ,, but TJ- comes close .
[20:16] <Bashing-om> macksfield: Be aware that link is temporary . subject to be moved to a permanent home .
[20:18] <Odd_> Hey. I'm running some servers that run independent from each other but with some addons that kinda work alongside each other. Is it possible to have symlinks work in the fashion of both writing and reading to the source?
[20:18] <arooni> where do i change the time at which ubunutu shows me the lock screen
[20:18] <ikonia> symlinks are both read/write support
[20:20] <Odd_> I seem to be getting a "permission denied" response though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:20] <macksfield> thanks again Bashing-om
[20:21] <Bashing-om> macksfield: Glad2help
[20:21] <ikonia> Odd_: look at the permissions
[20:21] <macksfield> Don't suppose you have any ideas why my back of motherboard sound isn't working but my front of case sound is? In sound settings, it's detecting my headphones, but the out Digital Output is on (S/PDIF) when I have my speakers plugged into an analog port in the back of case
[20:34] <BenBE> Is there an package archive server for Ubuntu similar to archive.debian.org (Containing all old package versions)?
[20:34] <ikonia> old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <Bashing-om> !sound | macksfield
[20:46] <macksfield> @Bashing-om thanks again
[20:48] <BenBE> ikonia: thx.
[20:51] <BenBE> Follow up question: Didn't Ubuntu 4.10 (Oct 2004) include the ca-certificates package (first on old-releases from Aug 2005) - or am I missing smething?
[20:53] <ikonia> BenBE: those releases are long dead, asking that sort of question from memory is unlikley to get an answer
[20:54] <ikonia> they are totally out of support here
[21:01] <BenBE> ikonia: Sure. Mostly doing some archeological research for a project of mine and wondered.
[21:02] <BenBE> Will probably have to cross-correlate with the ISOs to be complete.
[21:08] <carl-eric> Hi. How can I get openjdk-9 installed on 17.04 with a version corresponding to the official release? The version available in 17.04 is seriously outdated.
[21:17] <ducasse> carl-eric: openjdk-9 final was not ready when 17.04 was released, maybe a ppa is available (at your own risk)
[21:18] <carl-eric> ducasse, i haven't found one yet. there are openjdk-9 packages in 17.04, i was thinking they'd get updated once it was ready.
[21:19] <ducasse> carl-eric: not necessarily, no. especially not since 17.10 is just days from release.
[21:20] <carl-eric> ducasse, i know. i'm quite looking forward to 17.10 ;-) unfortunately i need a working java 9 now. it looks like i'll have to go with oracle's binaries for now (assuming they have some for linux)
[21:25] <teh_masterer> how do i install plex media server on ubuntu server when i have no access to the web browser? i tried Lynx an no download buttons work
[21:27] <Bashing-om> teh_masterer: Fix networking ? what results ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[21:28] <teh_masterer> Bashing-om:  sorry what? i dont know what you mean.
[21:29] <ducasse> teh_masterer: you really need to ask plex support as it's a third-party package
[21:29] <Bashing-om> teh_masterer: " no access to the web browser " do we need to find out the why not ?
[21:30] <oerheks> sudo snap install menta-plexmediaserver --classic http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/07/22/install-plex-media-server-easily-via-snap-ubuntu-16-04-higher/
[21:30] <teh_masterer> ducasse: i tried apt --install plexmediaserver.deb it does nothing. i tried apt -i plexmediaserver.deb also does nothing. So I tried Lynx browser and went to their site. None of the download buttons work, they all give an HTML error.
[21:30] <oerheks> dpkg -i <package.deb>  perhaps?
[21:31] <ducasse> apt install ./plex....deb
[21:31] <carl-eric> Is there a way to verify signatures on packages downloaded from packages.ubuntu.com (or the archive servers, which are only linked to using unsecured http)
[21:33] <oerheks> !md5sum
[21:33] <Seveas> carl-eric: yes, don't manually download but let apt do it. It uses the gpg-signed hashes. Doing that for manual downloads is a bit trickier as those hases are in the package list files
[21:34] <carl-eric> Seveas, that's what i usually do of course. i'm trying to do it manually for a few packages
[21:34] <Seveas> carl-eric: download the Packages file, verify its signature, and use the checksums in that file.
[21:35] <strive> teh_masterer: Have you tried using the upgrade option?
[21:35] <teh_masterer> Bashing-om: Because if I have a server with no browser how am I suppose to download something if its not in the cache and download buttons dontw ork in Lynx?
[21:35] <teh_masterer> strive: upgrade what?
[21:36] <carl-eric> Seveas, thanks
[21:37] <ducasse> teh_masterer: download on another host, copy to server
[21:37] <strive> teh_masterer: dpkg -i plexmediaserver.deb
[21:37] <oerheks> !info debsig-verify
[21:39] <Seveas> debsig-verify /var/cache/apt/archives/debsig-verify_0.15_amd64.deb
[21:39] <Seveas> debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed.
[21:40] <Seveas> Am I holding it wrong, or does the ubuntu archive not support this?
[21:40] <carl-eric> Seveas, that's what i tried initially and i got the same result. it doesn't seem to work that way.
[21:41] <Seveas> exit code is 10, which according to the manpage means "no signature"
[21:41] <teh_masterer> ducasse: that doesnt work man i tried it. "no such file or directory"
[21:41] <oerheks> maybe it depends on the .dsc , sourcecode only?
[21:42] <ducasse> teh_masterer: the apt command i gave you? you need to use an absolute path, ./ only works if it's in the current directory
[21:43] <teh_masterer> ducasse: dpkg -i plexmediaserver.deb does not do anything. no file or directory found.
[21:43] <ducasse> teh_masterer: i didn't tell you to do that, but same thing
[21:44] <[n0mad]> are you actually including the version information? or just typing plexmediaserver.deb
[21:45] <teh_masterer> ducasse: sorry that was strive right under you. anyway it doesnt work.
[21:45] <skinux> I'm starting to use yarn package manager, it has informed me that Node 2.4.6 is not supported, it wants "^4.8.0 || ^5.7.0 || ^6.2.2 || ^8.0.0". Should I just install Node from official site?
[21:45] <ducasse> teh_masterer: but use apt instead as it will take care of dependencies
[21:45] <teh_masterer> [n0mad]: plexmediaserver.deb
[21:45] <teh_masterer> ducasse: apt also does not work
[21:46] <ducasse> teh_masterer: i just told you why
[21:46] <[n0mad]> that doesn't sound like an actual file name from their downloads
[21:46] <[n0mad]> For example, plexmediaserver_1.5.6.3790-4613ce077_amd64.deb
[21:47] <strive> I believe that plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64 is the latest version.
[21:47] <[n0mad]> yes, i just picked a file
[21:47] <oerheks> the snap package gives a funny result.>> sudo snap install menta-plexmediaserver --classic
[21:47] <[n0mad]> i have 10 or 15
[21:47] <teh_masterer> strive: i just tried apt -i https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb doesnt work
[21:48] <ducasse> teh_masterer: no, that's entirely wrong
[21:48] <strive> teh_masterer: What experience do you have on Linux? Also, is this a fresh install or upgrade?
[21:48] <teh_masterer> strive: i dont have any. im testing ubuntu server in a virtual machine.
[21:48] <strive> teh_masterer: Ahhh.
[21:48] <ducasse> teh_masterer: don't just make up commands out of thin air, run them as they're supposed to work
[21:49] <strive> teh_masterer: First, you'll want to download the file: wget https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb
[21:49] <teh_masterer> ducasse: im not making up commands. I watched a tutorial on how to install apps. The instructor said use --install firefox.deb but when I tried plexmediaserver.deb it doesnt work. Then everyone keeps saying to use -i instead of --install because its depcrated.
[21:49] <strive> teh_masterer: Those are examples. You need to use actual filenames you are currently working with.
[21:50] <ducasse> teh_masterer: 'apt install', not 'apt --install
[21:50] <ducasse> teh_masterer: 'apt install', not 'apt --install'
[21:51] <teh_masterer> ducasse: unable to locate package. couldnt find any by glob or regex.
[21:52] <ducasse> teh_masterer: 'apt install /absolute/path/to/plexmediaserver.deb'
[21:53] <teh_masterer> ducasse: unsupported file or given on commandl ine
[21:54] <strive> teh_masterer: Check your private messages, please.
[21:54] <ducasse> teh_masterer: which ubuntu is this?
[21:54] <teh_masterer> ducasse: ubuntu server lts 16.04
[21:55] <hggdh> if the package is local, then one should use dpkg,, not apt
[21:55] <hggdh> sudo dpkg -i <whatever.deb
[21:55] <teh_masterer> hggdh: that doesnt work i tried that too. both -i --ii -install --install
[21:56] <hggdh> teh_masterer: for dpkg, or apt?
[21:56] <teh_masterer> hggdh: both
[21:57] <oerheks> cd Downloads ...
[21:57] <hggdh> teh_masterer: OK. so you downloaded a package, then tried dpkg -i /give/the/full/path/whatever.deb. What, exactly, happened?
[21:58] <teh_masterer> hggdh:  the package never downloaded it says file or no directory found. apt, dpkg, i tried lynx browser
[21:58] <cyyber> hello, I am having problem in Ubuntu 17.10 , touchpad is not working
[21:58] <oerheks> cyyber, join #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 support, until release
[21:58] <hggdh> teh_masterer: (1) dpkg will only work if the package is already downloaded; (2) apt will fetch the package from the reositories
[21:58] <oerheks> !17.10
[21:59] <oerheks> 4 more days ...
[21:59] <teh_masterer> hggdh: it is not in the repositories or cache, whatever you call it. so i tried  https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65/plexmediaserver_1.9.4.4325-1bf240a65_amd64.deb but it doesnt work
[21:59] <hggdh> teh_masterer: you tried *what* on this URL?
[22:00] <Keitaro> i am wondering when we do a dns request, the request is iterative so if our Internet provider dns don't have the answer in the cache, it is our pc who do request to the root dns or the provider dns that makes the request ?
[22:00] <hggdh> cuz neither dpkg nor apt will work on it
[22:00] <Keitaro> thanks in advance
[22:00] <teh_masterer> hggdh: apt -install, apt -i, apt --i, apt --install with URL after
[22:00] <[n0mad]> none of that will work
[22:01] <hggdh> teh_masterer: will not work. apt will download a package from the repositories, NOT from anywhere else
[22:01] <[n0mad]> maybe you should actually try using a real browser to download the file
[22:01] <ikonia> Keitaro: it's your dns server - not your local machine
[22:01] <ikonia> Keitaro: it's a heriarchy
[22:01] <cyyber> can anyone tell me touchpad drivers available for ubuntu
[22:01] <Keitaro> thanks ikonia
[22:01] <hggdh> teh_masterer: so, since the URL is elsewhere, YOU must download it manually, and then use dpkg
[22:01] <ikonia> cyyber: you're using 17.10 ?
[22:01] <cyyber> yes
[22:02] <cyyber> some how, I managed to start ubuntu in my laptop
[22:02] <ikonia> cyyber: then #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel, as you seem to already know
[22:02] <cyyber> assume that I am using 17.0
[22:02] <cyyber> and tell me what would be the possible solution, there, I will give it a try
[22:02] <ikonia> cyyber: no, lets not assume
[22:02] <ikonia> cyyber: use the correct channel
[22:03] <cyyber> already sent message there, but no one replied
[22:03] <ikonia> cyyber: then wait
[22:03] <teh_masterer> hggdh: strive told me wget is download URL. Why is this not told in my tutorial? so if app is not in cache you cnat download. ridiculous.
[22:03] <ikonia> cyyber: you waited less then 2 minutes
[22:03] <cyyber> hmm.. Hope to get an answer in 15 min
[22:03] <hggdh> teh_masterer: I cannot answer why your tutorial gives you the wrong information, sorry.
[22:03] <ikonia> cyyber: you're chosing to run pre-release software with no formal support, you are expected to know the basics enough to troubleshoot
[22:03] <ikonia> cyyber: this channel does not pickup the slack for #ubuntu+1
[22:03] <oerheks> cyyber, wrong approach, tell #ubuntu+1 what laptop/touchpad this is ..
[22:04] <cyyber> done
[22:04] <hggdh> teh_masterer: as I said before: (1) dpkg will only work if the package is already downloaded; (2) apt will fetch the package from the reositories
[22:05] <teh_masterer> hggdh: yes strive is guiding me through it thank you hggdh. the tutorial was recommended to me by a linux power user. seems to me this wget command is ESSENTIAL.
[22:06] <hggdh> teh_masterer: since you are trying to install an unknown package from somewhere else, yes, you have to download it somehow
[22:26] <teh_masterer> hggdh: i got the plex server up thanks to strive but i cant connect. any idea why sir
[22:26] <hggdh> teh_masterer: sorry, never used plex
[22:27] <teh_masterer> hggdh: ok no problem thanks again
[22:30] <ikonia> read the logs
[22:30] <ikonia> check the firewall
[22:30] <ikonia> do basic connectivity test
[22:40] <ericus> So I had to go back to a checkpoint from January on one of my VM's... This is what I get:
[22:40] <ericus> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:40] <ericus> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:40] <ericus> Totally unfixable?
[22:41] <ericus> (sudo apt-get update)
[22:44] <Bashing-om> ericus: Only one instance of the package manager can be active . Auto updates running at that time ?
[22:45] <ericus> no apt-get or aptitude running as far as I can see
[22:46] <ericus> oh
[22:46] <oerheks> hit the update icon ?
[22:46] <ericus> https://pastebin.com/hgtvDw4X
[22:46] <ericus> oerheks headless server
[22:49] <ericus> I would love help with solving this
[22:49] <ericus> There's months of config down the drain
[22:49] <ikonia> calm down
[22:50] <ikonia> nothing is "down the drain"
[22:50] <ikonia> you just have a process holding the lock file
[22:50] <ericus> the VM runs on a Windows Server Hyper-V if that helps somehow
[22:50] <tgm4883> also, months of config? If months of config are down the drain you're doing it wrong
[22:50] <Bashing-om> ericus: looks to me like /apt/apt.systemd.daily is running . wait for it to complete ??
[22:50] <ikonia> not at all
[22:50] <ikonia> you have a process holding the lock file
[22:51] <ikonia> it tails you Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:51] <ikonia> it can't get an exclusive lock on that file
[22:53] <ericus> well okay, not months of config, but months of -working- config. And yes, I should be better at creating backups.. lessond learned..
[22:53] <ikonia> what ???
[22:53] <ikonia> you've lost nothing
[22:54] <tgm4883> ericus: as others have said, you've lost nothing. Relax, wait 10 minute and run it again
[22:54] <ericus> sudo apt-get update ran just fine now, thanks for the tip on waiting
[22:55] <tgm4883> Further, even *IF* for some reason apt was fouled up, you still have access to your data and configuration. Nothing is gone
[22:55] <ericus> true
[22:56]  * ericus takes a shot of whisket
[22:56] <ericus> whiskey*, damn
[23:00] <ericus> most of what I had configured will probably be fixed :)
[23:00] <ericus> I've had a fucking bad day as it is, I do not need this right now
[23:01] <ikonia> tone down the language
[23:01] <ikonia> we don't need it
[23:01] <ericus> sorry, just upset because of my own mistakes
[23:01] <ikonia> no problem, it happens
[23:02] <ericus> thanks for the help though, great community
[23:21] <evilbug> ubuntu's getting rid of unity with 18 but will ubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop still be different packages?
[23:22] <ericus> Hmm, some vhosts configs where actually lost, I guess I was dumb enough to take a checkpoint from that.. As said, lesson learned...
[23:23] <thrmo> how can I make the buttons to maximize, minimize and close windows bigger?
[23:23] <thrmo> on Ubuntu Gnome
[23:24] <thrmo> i want to use them in a tablet/notebook hybrid and as they sit they are a tad too small
[23:38] <ducasse> evilbug: there will be a 'clean' gnome session available in 17.10 in addition to the new one
[23:57] <chalcedony> my hubby's computer running ubuntu 16.04 is doing very weird things
[23:58] <chalcedony> his fireox is floating, it's lost it's top bar, with +-x, and whatever is going on, i can't click to edit or save etc. . it lierally moves the pointer over
[23:59] <chalcedony> is there a magnifying glass thing in ubuntu and could he inadvertently activated that?
[23:59] <evilbug> ducasse: ooohh, not sure i trust that. every time i've installed ubuntu in past years have been server + gnome-desktop.
[23:59] <chalcedony> how do you close it?
[23:59] <chalcedony> hi evilbug
[23:59] <evilbug> yo