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vrmuppalla | will plasma 5.11 be in backports after 17.10 release ? | 02:04 |
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DarinMiller | vrmuppalla: Yes, 5.11 is aleady in backports staging. A few known bug and 5.11.1 is right around the corner with fixes so you may want to wait a few days. | 02:20 |
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lordievader | Good morning | 06:11 |
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ForceRecon | what happens to kubuntu 17.04 in January | 11:47 |
ForceRecon | and does 16.04.3 look like 17.04 | 11:48 |
lordievader | ForceRecon: In January 17.04 is EOL. 16.04 is supported till 2021. See https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life | 11:59 |
ForceRecon | I noticed that but why does a version of higher number have a EOL | 11:59 |
lordievader | Because 16.04 is an LTS release and 17.04 is not. | 12:00 |
ForceRecon | I like 17.04 interface and everything.. is 16.04 the same? | 12:00 |
lordievader | LTS releases get 5 years support. Non-LTS only 9 months. | 12:00 |
lordievader | 16.04 is old :P | 12:00 |
ForceRecon | so if I build a laptop for someone and I put Kubuntu on it.. should I install 17.04 or OLD 16.04 | 12:01 |
lordievader | Depends on the requirements. | 12:01 |
lordievader | LTS releases are often seen as more stable. But the downside is older software. | 12:02 |
ForceRecon | okay.. lets begin with does 16.04 and 17.04 look the same? | 12:02 |
lordievader | No idea, sorry. | 12:02 |
lordievader | If I run Kubuntu I run a development release. | 12:02 |
BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:03 |
lordievader | What you could do is wait a couple of weeks for the release of 17.10. | 12:03 |
ForceRecon | yeah I am running 17.04.. I just don't know if I should put something on their laptop that is not going to get updated after January | 12:03 |
lordievader | ForceRecon: That way you get 9 months of support. | 12:03 |
ForceRecon | oh!... now were talking | 12:03 |
ForceRecon | nice! | 12:03 |
ForceRecon | just a couple of weeks? | 12:03 |
lordievader | ForceRecon: Well at that time you should simply upgrade to 17.10. | 12:04 |
lordievader | Same with when 17.10 is going EOL, upgrade to 18.04. | 12:04 |
ForceRecon | so we change repos and away we go? | 12:04 |
ForceRecon | or will it just be an option | 12:04 |
lordievader | ForceRecon: That would be the Debian way, Ubuntu has some toolie for it. | 12:04 |
ForceRecon | okeedo.. thanks a lot! | 12:05 |
ForceRecon | that answered everything | 12:05 |
ForceRecon | BEA U tiful | 12:05 |
lordievader | Cool, glad I could help. | 12:05 |
BluesKaj | sudo-do release-upgrade when it's released, add the -d if you intend to upgrade to 17.10 before thursday | 12:05 |
BluesKaj | err sudo do-release-upgrade rather | 12:06 |
ForceRecon | HEY BLUE! | 12:07 |
ForceRecon | big thanks.. nice nice.. | 12:07 |
ForceRecon | they currently have linux- mint on the Laptop.. I guess I should just download and create the dvd and then just wipe out and install kubuntu.. they only use the laptop for mail, but I think the interface is easier for them then linux mint | 12:09 |
ForceRecon | it really is amazing how they get everything to update so well.. | 12:17 |
ForceRecon | crazy good | 12:17 |
ForceRecon | wow.. all done.. nicely done you guys! | 12:21 |
ForceRecon | where are error logs in kubuntu? I do not see them in /var/log | 12:24 |
ForceRecon | i should say messages | 12:26 |
ForceRecon | sudo grep -i error messages | 12:26 |
BluesKaj | usually /var/log/syslog | 12:31 |
ForceRecon | https://pastebin.com/f4ntAbs7 - just some information | 13:13 |
ForceRecon | is there any way in kubuntu to show all hidden icons in the panel? I can click the up arrow to see hidden icons, but prefer to see them all by default all the time | 13:18 |
BluesKaj | right click system tray >settings>enties>choose shown | 13:20 |
BluesKaj | enties=entries | 13:20 |
acheronuk | ForceRecon: In systemtray setting, entries tab, there is a "Always show all entries" checkbox | 13:20 |
ForceRecon | thanks.. appreciated | 13:22 |
ForceRecon | Sorry, the program "plasmashell" closed unexpectedly | 13:30 |
ForceRecon | Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers. | 13:30 |
ForceRecon | wow.. the RSS feeds are very handy | 13:39 |
IrcsomeBot | albertify was added by: albertify | 13:59 |
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acheronuk | We're live at 15:00 UTC (in ~40 mins) over at UbuntuOnAir with some final ISO testing for #ubuntu 17.10. Join us! http://bit.ly/2sGXhC8 | 14:21 |
acheronuk | on IRC in #ubuntu-on-air | 14:22 |
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D0U91E | morning folks | 14:53 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning D0U91E. assume it's you dougl :-) | 14:54 |
D0U91E | BluesKaj, yepper - I was hoping I did not make it hard to use my nick... how are you today? | 15:00 |
BluesKaj | just fine here, and you? | 15:01 |
D0U91E | Not too too bad - fighting with manjaro just to get a taste of something different | 15:06 |
BluesKaj | yeah, i gave it a try for a couple of weeks. It was ok ,but some of the networking was a bit clunky like vpn in the cli rather than gui etc | 15:12 |
BluesKaj | I like using aliases for long networking strings, but it wasn't as easy as debian based OSs | 15:14 |
D0U91E | BluesKaj, yeah I am not enjoying it but trying to get the knack interpreting the docs but it seems like Manjaro has alot of square pegs for the round holes in the distro. | 15:20 |
D0U91E | I was looking at it to use on my little arm devices where debian currently dominates | 15:21 |
* D0U91E will quit being off topic now - Sorry | 15:22 | |
BluesKaj | ubuntu mate has an arm iso if you're not into raspbian | 15:23 |
D0U91E | BluesKaj, yes - I thought mate on the pi was a bit sluggish so I was shooting for xfce and was to lazy to do it on debian - I don't know maybe I just need the distraction | 15:28 |
BluesKaj | I used a spare hdd instead of a usb stick when i moved the root dir off the microsd card to the hdd and the performance didn't suffer much on the rpi3 | 15:32 |
BluesKaj | poorly worde that, but think you got the gist | 15:34 |
BluesKaj | worded | 15:34 |
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IrcsomeBot | <ger> Ubuntu 17.10 … on resume from login, video playback is broken and locks the system up. commands still work but take up to 20s for you changes etc to go through. … also on resume from locked session, shutdown and reboot never finish their actions. … also on resume from lock session, if dolphin is open for a few minutes plasma (I think) crashes. mouse works but everything else is frozen including that's. have to manually power machine | 16:48 |
IrcsomeBot | back working. … if I boot up system and never lock session, none of these issues happen. … locking session via: … loginctl lock-session … ryzen 1700 // rx480 … anyone familiar with these issues? | 16:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <ger> *including ttys | 16:49 |
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D0U91E | BluesKaj, do you have a sec to give me a few pointers on setting static ip on 17.10 beta? | 17:26 |
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valorie | zsync is so cool! for those who are testing the release candidate | 18:38 |
valorie | if not, do it! we need lots and lots of testing this week | 18:38 |
valorie | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds | 18:39 |
bittin | dding the new Kubuntu too test out | 19:07 |
valorie | bittin: good to hear -- please report any bugs and report your results on the qa tracker | 19:32 |
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ForceRecon | why do people leave the room.. other than reboot.. | 20:01 |
ForceRecon | you would think that it was important to get an answer | 20:02 |
ForceRecon | Even BluesKaj is gone.. | 20:02 |
* ForceRecon is sad now | 20:02 | |
valorie | ForceRecon: do you have a question? | 20:04 |
valorie | some people turn their computers off when they aren't using them | 20:04 |
ForceRecon | no, just watching the world.. really pleased with kununtu, but cannot get it to work on 3 monitors and can't take the chance to wipe debian for a test run.. | 20:08 |
ForceRecon | I wish there something more stable, or that i was better at linux | 20:08 |
ForceRecon | probably the later/// | 20:08 |
valorie | ForceRecon: have you given artful a try yet? | 20:09 |
valorie | I know there has been recent work on multiple monitors | 20:09 |
ForceRecon | I could dual boot, but.... yeah.. I just updated my vmware installtion today.. PERFECT!!!.. btw.. but I just can't chance it | 20:09 |
valorie | try a live version and see? | 20:09 |
ForceRecon | won't boot and when it does it is not the right graphics driver.. would have to take the plunge | 20:10 |
valorie | I see | 20:10 |
ForceRecon | if it were only so simple | 20:10 |
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valorie | dual boot is probably the best option then | 20:11 |
valorie | with a separate ~/home | 20:11 |
ForceRecon | yeah I am going to head that way shortly.. I really like kubuntu | 20:11 |
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zmith | hello | 22:36 |
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