=== exio4 is now known as hacker === hacker is now known as exio4 [02:04] will plasma 5.11 be in backports after 17.10 release ? [02:20] vrmuppalla: Yes, 5.11 is aleady in backports staging. A few known bug and 5.11.1 is right around the corner with fixes so you may want to wait a few days. === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [06:11] Good morning === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [11:47] what happens to kubuntu 17.04 in January [11:48] and does 16.04.3 look like 17.04 [11:59] ForceRecon: In January 17.04 is EOL. 16.04 is supported till 2021. See https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life [11:59] I noticed that but why does a version of higher number have a EOL [12:00] Because 16.04 is an LTS release and 17.04 is not. [12:00] I like 17.04 interface and everything.. is 16.04 the same? [12:00] LTS releases get 5 years support. Non-LTS only 9 months. [12:00] 16.04 is old :P [12:01] so if I build a laptop for someone and I put Kubuntu on it.. should I install 17.04 or OLD 16.04 [12:01] Depends on the requirements. [12:02] LTS releases are often seen as more stable. But the downside is older software. [12:02] okay.. lets begin with does 16.04 and 17.04 look the same? [12:02] No idea, sorry. [12:02] If I run Kubuntu I run a development release. [12:03] Howdy all [12:03] What you could do is wait a couple of weeks for the release of 17.10. [12:03] yeah I am running 17.04.. I just don't know if I should put something on their laptop that is not going to get updated after January [12:03] ForceRecon: That way you get 9 months of support. [12:03] oh!... now were talking [12:03] nice! [12:03] just a couple of weeks? [12:04] ForceRecon: Well at that time you should simply upgrade to 17.10. [12:04] Same with when 17.10 is going EOL, upgrade to 18.04. [12:04] so we change repos and away we go? [12:04] or will it just be an option [12:04] ForceRecon: That would be the Debian way, Ubuntu has some toolie for it. [12:05] okeedo.. thanks a lot! [12:05] that answered everything [12:05] BEA U tiful [12:05] Cool, glad I could help. [12:05] sudo-do release-upgrade when it's released, add the -d if you intend to upgrade to 17.10 before thursday [12:06] err sudo do-release-upgrade rather [12:07] HEY BLUE! [12:07] big thanks.. nice nice.. [12:09] they currently have linux- mint on the Laptop.. I guess I should just download and create the dvd and then just wipe out and install kubuntu.. they only use the laptop for mail, but I think the interface is easier for them then linux mint [12:17] it really is amazing how they get everything to update so well.. [12:17] crazy good [12:21] wow.. all done.. nicely done you guys! [12:24] where are error logs in kubuntu? I do not see them in /var/log [12:26] i should say messages [12:26] sudo grep -i error messages [12:31] usually /var/log/syslog [13:13] https://pastebin.com/f4ntAbs7 - just some information [13:18] is there any way in kubuntu to show all hidden icons in the panel? I can click the up arrow to see hidden icons, but prefer to see them all by default all the time [13:20] right click system tray >settings>enties>choose shown [13:20] enties=entries [13:20] ForceRecon: In systemtray setting, entries tab, there is a "Always show all entries" checkbox [13:22] thanks.. appreciated [13:30] Sorry, the program "plasmashell" closed unexpectedly [13:30] Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers. [13:39] wow.. the RSS feeds are very handy [13:59] albertify was added by: albertify === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [14:21] We're live at 15:00 UTC (in ~40 mins) over at UbuntuOnAir with some final ISO testing for #ubuntu 17.10. Join us! http://bit.ly/2sGXhC8 [14:22] on IRC in #ubuntu-on-air === evilclowntx is now known as EvilClown-W === tommy_ is now known as Guest62232 [14:53] morning folks [14:54] 'Morning D0U91E. assume it's you dougl :-) [15:00] BluesKaj, yepper - I was hoping I did not make it hard to use my nick... how are you today? [15:01] just fine here, and you? [15:06] Not too too bad - fighting with manjaro just to get a taste of something different [15:12] yeah, i gave it a try for a couple of weeks. It was ok ,but some of the networking was a bit clunky like vpn in the cli rather than gui etc [15:14] I like using aliases for long networking strings, but it wasn't as easy as debian based OSs [15:20] BluesKaj, yeah I am not enjoying it but trying to get the knack interpreting the docs but it seems like Manjaro has alot of square pegs for the round holes in the distro. [15:21] I was looking at it to use on my little arm devices where debian currently dominates [15:22] * D0U91E will quit being off topic now - Sorry [15:23] ubuntu mate has an arm iso if you're not into raspbian [15:28] BluesKaj, yes - I thought mate on the pi was a bit sluggish so I was shooting for xfce and was to lazy to do it on debian - I don't know maybe I just need the distraction [15:32] I used a spare hdd instead of a usb stick when i moved the root dir off the microsd card to the hdd and the performance didn't suffer much on the rpi3 [15:34] poorly worde that, but think you got the gist [15:34] worded === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [16:48] Ubuntu 17.10 … on resume from login, video playback is broken and locks the system up. commands still work but take up to 20s for you changes etc to go through. … also on resume from locked session, shutdown and reboot never finish their actions. … also on resume from lock session, if dolphin is open for a few minutes plasma (I think) crashes. mouse works but everything else is frozen including that's. have to manually power machine [16:48] back working. … if I boot up system and never lock session, none of these issues happen. … locking session via: … loginctl lock-session … ryzen 1700 // rx480 … anyone familiar with these issues? [16:49] *including ttys === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === james is now known as Guest53553 [17:26] BluesKaj, do you have a sec to give me a few pointers on setting static ip on 17.10 beta? === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [18:38] zsync is so cool! for those who are testing the release candidate [18:38] if not, do it! we need lots and lots of testing this week [18:39] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds [19:07] dding the new Kubuntu too test out [19:32] bittin: good to hear -- please report any bugs and report your results on the qa tracker === kubuntu is now known as bittin_ [20:01] why do people leave the room.. other than reboot.. [20:02] you would think that it was important to get an answer [20:02] Even BluesKaj is gone.. [20:02] * ForceRecon is sad now [20:04] ForceRecon: do you have a question? [20:04] some people turn their computers off when they aren't using them [20:08] no, just watching the world.. really pleased with kununtu, but cannot get it to work on 3 monitors and can't take the chance to wipe debian for a test run.. [20:08] I wish there something more stable, or that i was better at linux [20:08] probably the later/// [20:09] ForceRecon: have you given artful a try yet? [20:09] I know there has been recent work on multiple monitors [20:09] I could dual boot, but.... yeah.. I just updated my vmware installtion today.. PERFECT!!!.. btw.. but I just can't chance it [20:09] try a live version and see? [20:10] won't boot and when it does it is not the right graphics driver.. would have to take the plunge [20:10] I see [20:10] if it were only so simple === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [20:11] dual boot is probably the best option then [20:11] with a separate ~/home [20:11] yeah I am going to head that way shortly.. I really like kubuntu === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [22:36] hello === fabricio is now known as Guest73170