[07:26] <Sterist> anyone know how to troubleshoot VPN refusing to turn on in 17.10? it doesn't appear to be related to display server change
[07:27] <Sterist> the instant I click my setting that worked perfectly pre-update, it switches back off without error message
[07:27] <Sterist> already tried putting my password in again in case that didn't carry over
[07:40] <Sterist> 😕
[09:11] <Sterist> ok I checked system log, I'm getting "Invalid VPN Service Type (cannot find authentication binary)" and there's very little info of use on Google
[12:02] <freakyy> thrmo: hey ;D
[12:03] <freakyy> and did itgo well with ur ubuntu 17.10 installation? :D
[12:03] <freakyy> hmm
[12:03] <freakyy> somethign is bugged here
[12:03] <freakyy> brb
[12:05] <freakyy> back ;D
[13:19] <Squarism> People happy with gnome base 17.10? Better or worse than Unity? Or just different?
[13:20] <Squarism> based
[14:46] <freakyy> Squarism: i like gnome-shell more than unity and i used ubuntu-gnome before and not ubuntu with unity ;D
[14:46] <freakyy> so yes, i like ubuntu-gnome more ;D
[14:46] <freakyy> it really lookgs good
[15:36] <Bloviogot> hola
[15:36] <bittin> Ubuntu test evening in #ubuntu-on-air and #ubuntu-meeting
[15:36] <bittin> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/artful-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:46] <shemgp> anyone getting 500 when doing apt update on Artful?
[16:46] <shemgp> *else
[16:48] <flocculant> fine here - always use the main server though
[16:51] <shemgp> two computers here: ppas are working but even if I change mirrors & main archive won't work
[16:51] <shemgp> I also removed the apt-cacher-ng proxy already and same error
[16:53] <shemgp> is there a debug for apt?
[16:53] <shemgp> btw, in xenial, it works
[18:13] <Asad2005> i am downloading an update now which has a new nvidia-384 will this solve the wayland issue?
[18:20] <dgpratt> what's the default desktop environment in 17.10?
[18:20] <nacc> dgpratt: on a fresh install of stock ubuntu? gnome
[18:22] <Asad2005> quit
[18:22] <dgpratt> nacc: that's what I thought, but when I installed 17.10 fresh on a VM, it looked much closer to screenshots I find searching for "unity" vs "gnome". Did they reskin it to look closer to Unity or am I tripping?
[18:23] <dax> it's themed and has a dock that isn't standard in upstream, yes
[18:24] <dax> should look something like https://didrocks.fr/images/artful-shell-transition/final_freeze_ubuntu_17.04_desktop.png out of the box
[18:33] <dgpratt> hmm, ok, thanks dax 
[18:34] <dax> oh, should be a "vanilla" gnome session on the login screen somewhere too, if you prefer that
[18:34] <lordcirth_work> Looks nice
[18:34] <dax> yeah, i liked it last time i tried it
[18:34] <lordcirth_work> dax, vanilla being like Debian & Fedora's desktop?
[18:34] <dax> well, like upstream gnome, so pretty much
[18:35] <sylock> Hello guys. I'm trying 17.10. it stucks on boot. I have a Nvidia GTX 670. With nouveau I can boot but only with acpi=off
[18:36] <sylock> With Nvidia proprietary driver I can go to gsm but gnome-shell crash
[18:37] <sylock> Saying the fail whale is dead in journalctl
[18:42] <sylock> no idea?
[18:52] <lordcirth_work> sylock, anything in Xorg.0.log?
[18:53] <sylock> I check
[18:58] <sylock> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25754663/
[19:02] <lordcirth_work> sylock, that seems to imply that the 'nvidia' driver is not installed.  What about logs when it is installed?
[19:07] <sylock> lordcirth_work: with nvidia, Xorg is clean
[19:07] <sylock> I get GDM but gnome-session fails
[19:07] <sylock> here are the logs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25754703/
[19:09] <lordcirth_work> sylock, anything in syslog?
[19:10] <lordcirth_work> or $HOME/.xsession-errors
[19:15] <sylock> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25754741/
[19:16] <sylock> not much more than in journalctl
[20:58] <sylock> Finally I made it working with Nvidia proprietary. I'm not sure but I deinstall chrome-remote-desktop paquet. It could be the culprit.
[22:56] <dgpratt> what version of Ubuntu made Gnome the default?
[22:57] <nacc> dgpratt: it will be the default in 17.10
[22:58] <nacc> dgpratt: so no released version yet
[22:58] <dgpratt> thanks nacc, that explains my confusion -- I read somewhere that it was switching in 17.4
[22:58] <nacc> well, 17.04 is already out, so that's pretty easy to test
[22:59] <dax> dgpratt: nope, 17.04 still defaults to Unity (though there is also Ubuntu GNOME, obviously)
[23:00] <dgpratt> ok, thanks for confirming dax