[00:00] <chalcedony> any idea what to do with hubby's ubuntu?
[00:01] <evilbug> no.
[00:01] <evilbug> sound like an accesibility option though.
[00:01] <lordcirth> chalcedony, it's only been a few minutes; hopefully someone will answer
[00:02] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Not very clean, and might be better solutions, but kill FireFox from terminal ??
[00:02] <ArMedic> Has anyone in here ever placed Ubuntu on a chromebook?
[00:02] <evilbug> google ubuntu screen zoom accesibility or something.
[00:02] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, nice to see you .. i'm bringing up putty. it won't let him do anything
[00:04] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ctl+alt+t does not activate a terminal ?
[00:04] <chalcedony> let me go try
[00:04] <oerheks> ArMedic, not without bricking it, and then again, 16 gb is a bit small
[00:05] <ArMedic> oerheks, Okay.  I was thinking of giving it a try.  Now, maybe not.
[00:05] <chalcedony> brought up a giant terminal
[00:06] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Let us wait and see if some one offers a better option .
[00:06] <chalcedony> well now i know his ip at least
[00:10] <malkauns> if i used raid 0 for a single drive on my server can i use that drive in a different server (with different specs)?
[00:11] <chalcedony> compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:11] <chalcedony> compizconfig-settings-manager: command not found
[00:12] <chalcedony> sp ot
[00:12] <chalcedony> so it's not that
[00:13] <lordcirth> malkauns, if you move all drives to a new server?  Sure, so long as it has mdadm tools installed.
[00:15] <malkauns> lordcirth: but I mean with hardware raid
[00:15] <malkauns> not software
[00:15] <ericus> anyone good with reverse proxy on apache2?
[00:15] <malkauns> and just 1 single drive
[00:15] <lordcirth> malkauns, oh I see.  You want to move the raid card and all drives?
[00:15] <lordcirth> malkauns, oh, you used "raid 0" mode in order to just pass the drive through?
[00:15] <malkauns> nope not the card
[00:15] <malkauns> yes exactly
[00:16] <lordcirth> malkauns, usually a raid card will do some custom formatting
[00:16] <malkauns> hmmmm
[00:17] <malkauns> even just for a single drive?
[00:17] <lordcirth> malkauns, yeah.  I mean, you can try; if you don't write to it, it shouldn't hurt anything... but I wouldn't expect it to work
[00:18] <malkauns> mmk thx
[00:19] <malkauns> so if my server dies I can't even recover anything
[00:20] <malkauns> unless a buy the exact same server again
[00:20] <chalcedony> wow.. we tried the windows key and scrolling, which does nothing, but the windows key brings up a menu of keyboard shortcuts only it blnks madly and i can't look at it
[00:20] <chalcedony> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1409491.html  that was from here
[00:27] <beshoo> can i ask a general linux question ?
[00:27] <oerheks> beshoo, there is ##linux for that
[00:27] <oerheks> ubuntu answers might not apply to your situation
[00:27] <beshoo> well no one helped me there
[00:27] <chalcedony> what is it?
[00:28] <beshoo> so i think here more pro users :)
[00:28] <beshoo> i am using FastText , a facebook text classification tool , this tool works by passing text to it via stdin " ./fasttext predict-prob model.bin - " then ENTER , and each new line will go to fasttext, well i want to run this via web server , how can i make fasttext be in memory and can receive stdin from any script , e.g php shell_exec() , some one advice me to use named pipe , but when i send
[00:28] <beshoo> text to named pipe , fasttext print to the std and exit , and never redirect output to the named pipe
[00:28] <beshoo> ./fasttext predict-prob model_gender.bin named_pipe
[00:28] <oerheks> fasttext is not in our repos, sorry
[00:29] <chalcedony> its a nicely asked question, but not something people are good with here
[00:29] <beshoo> well , yes that is why i saied it is general Linux , what i think here , all user is more advanced
[00:30] <kostkon> beshoo, like you said, too general a question for #ubuntu
[00:30] <beshoo> Ok since ##linux no one help ? any other option :)
[00:31] <kostkon> beshoo, a php or some other dev channel perhaps?
[00:32] <chalcedony> https://fasttext.cc/docs/en/faqs.html
[00:32] <chalcedony> beshoo, ask in #python maybe
[00:36] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: while we wait . what results ' ps aux | grep firefox ' . And we descend down the tree and see what we will kill .
[00:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, its his whole everything
[00:40] <chalcedony> he rebooted and the screen saver is enormous
[00:40] <chalcedony> the drop down menus are huge
[00:41] <chalcedony> not just firefox
[00:42] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Yuk .. K - What release and desktop is this again ?
[00:43] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, he has ubuntu 16.04 and runs ummm
[00:47] <chalcedony> #cairo-dock
[00:52] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: No . the environment of the desktop . does ' dpkg -l lightdm ' come back with " ii  lightdm        1.18.3-0ubun amd64  " ?
[00:54] <cyphase> in unity, is there a keyboard shortcut that pushes the current window to the back, like middle-clicking on the title bar?
[01:34] <fishcooker> any program that have antonym functionality of pidof? i know the pid but have problem with greping the name of processes
[01:35] <Ben64> ps
[01:46] <fishcooker> ps matching only for second column then show the processes name, Ben64
[01:51] <Ben64> fishcooker: what
[02:13] <chalcedony> hubby rebooted, it's at least better for now. thanks everybody :)
[02:22] <teh_masterer_> how do you transfer files from linux server to a windows machine using rsync?
[02:25] <cfhowlett> !server | teh_masterer_
[02:26] <teh_masterer_> cfhowlett: huh?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> ask in the server channel
[02:26] <teh_masterer_> oh my mistake
[02:26] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:30] <bcowan> Ask google would be a better response
[02:30] <fishcooker> Ben64:  i want to get the processes name with the pids here is the number of pids $ ps aux | grep '\<3258\>\|\<1834079\>\|\<2862\>\|\<3248\>\|\<2538492\>\|\<3250\>\|\<315931\>\|\<2879\>\|\<3643440\>\|\<3254\>\|\<317001\>\|\<3256\>\|\<1\>\|\<3994411\>\|\<2068526\>\|\<155318\>\|\<812\>\|\<3252\>' | grep -v grep
[02:30] <bazhang> bcowan, we strictly d\ont tell users to google it
[02:31] <Ben64> fishcooker: uh don't do it like that
[02:32] <fishcooker> that's why i want to get the grep exact match case, Ben64
[02:32] <Ben64> fishcooker: don't use grep. ps has the ability to accept a pid as input
[02:32] <fishcooker> noted, cool Ben64
[02:33] <bcowan> bazhang: ok well rtfm sucks and that wasn’t an Ubuntu question and asking Ubuntu server makes no sense because it’s not a server question
[02:34] <bazhang> bcowan, at worst we could them about alis
[02:34] <bazhang>  /msg alis list term  bcowan to find a channel that was suitable
[02:35] <fishcooker> thanks Ben64 $ for pid in 3258 1834079 2862 3248 2538492 3250 315931 2879 3643440 3254 317001 3256 1 3994411 2068526 155318 812 3252; do ps $pid | grep -v PID; done
[02:36] <Ben64> fishcooker: why still grep
[02:36] <bcowan> bazhang: to me, a question like that is like copying someone’s homework
[02:36] <bazhang> bcowan, be that as it may, we server all types here, and never is telling someone to just google it an option
[02:37] <bazhang> bcowan, if you dont wish to help with that questions thats fine, but directing to the googs is not viable
[02:37] <jas> its the most obvious thing to do, helping them help themselves
[02:38] <jas> rather than spoonfeeding it to them in here
[02:38] <jas> 0.02
[02:38] <bazhang> not how we work it here
[02:38] <jas> since when do you run shit here
[02:38] <jas> ;x
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> jas: keep language familly friendly here plz
[02:38] <bazhang> no cursing here ever jas
[02:39] <jas> wow, grow a pair seriously
[02:40] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | jas   read and heed jas.  our guidelines apply to all - even you
[02:41] <bcowan> Starting to wonder if it’s worse in here than old school Debian 20 years ago when the first response was always “did you rtfm?”
[02:42] <bazhang> bcowan, lets take the chatter to the offtopic channel please
[02:43] <bcowan> Yep much worse, one bad apple
[02:43] <jas> no need to write back, going afk
[02:43] <jas> 👍
[02:44] <jas> not sure what youre trying to PM me about, save it
[02:45] <bazhang> jas ok, stay on topic here, chatter elsewhere, thanks
[02:45] <jas> ...
[02:45] <nopea> I am trying to copy a file from a bash script to ovewrite another file, but I do not want to overwrite the permissions or ownership.  How can this done?  cp copies the file with me as the owner
[02:46] <nopea> I mean, I dont want the original file to retain it's permissions, not take the new ones
[02:47] <Ben64> you don't want it to retain but you don't want new?
[02:48] <nopea> Ben64: from the bash script, I want to copy a file that overwrites another, but I want to keep the original file's permissions
[02:48] <bcowan> I’m lost, but maybe cp -a
[02:48] <cfhowlett> nopea, man cp would seem to suggest the --no-preserve option if I've understood you correctly
[02:49] <nopea> bcowan: thanks.. I have a custom 000-default.conf file that I want to use and replace Ubuntu's, but it keeps taking me as the owner
[02:50] <Ben64> cp doesn't change owner for me
[02:51] <bcowan> Or just stat the original file and chmod after the cp
[02:52] <Pomidora> So I resolved a dependency manually... I really wanted to have a version that was not available yet for my dist. Now apt spits out that it has unresolved dependencies and won't let me install anything. How do I tell it that this particular package is resolved?
[02:52] <nopea> yeah, I am trying that in the bash.. didn't take the new permissions.  I have to keep playing
[02:52] <Ben64> cp doesn't change it, you must be doing something wonky
[02:54] <bcowan> Your script may not be elevated enough to do what you want
[02:55] <bcowan> or to say you’re not running your script with elevated enough privileges
[02:55] <nopea> bcowan: not sure it is that... it also install Apache2, MySQL, OpenSSH, vsftdp etc
[02:55] <Ben64> sounds like a bad script
[02:56] <bcowan> My scripts usually make me goto sleep :p
[02:57] <nopea> Ben64: not the script.... same thing happens when I type it in
[02:57] <Ben64> type what in
[02:57] <nopea> sudo cp -rp 000-default.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[02:58] <malkauns> bcowan, i made a script: /usr/local/bin/sleep once which would put the system in suspend. was baffled when my system kept going into suspend for "no reason" :P
[02:58] <bcowan> Lol
[02:59] <Ben64> nopea: you might want to look what -rp does
[02:59] <bcowan> What he said
[03:00] <bcowan> Recursive preserve
[03:00] <nopea> yeah - I get that now
[03:00] <nopea> keeps the permissions of the file being copied not the one being overwritten
[03:02] <bcowan> Drop the p
[03:02] <bcowan> like in a cup lol
[03:03] <bcowan> Why do you need recursive if it’s just a single file???
[03:04] <nopea> I dropped -rp and it is working now
[03:06] <bcowan> If you’re calling a single file -r is useless and -pr is pretty much -a
[03:29] <Elminster> Hi folks. I'm working on the installation of an ubuntu server on an old computer and -yes I've only got a couple of dozen hours under my belt- but I can't figure out the following problem: sudo apt-get updates --- It cannot find the ca.archive.ubuntu.com. I tried to ping, host -v, change the resolv.conf nameserver to the router ip dedicated to this machine... and no success.
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Elminster, easy workaround: try a different mirro
[03:29] <cfhowlett> could be the current one is down for some reason
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: there is also #ubuntu-mirrors for known issues about your country
[03:31] <Elminster> Thanks. New to the system though -- which file do I modify to add a mirror^
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Elminster, system > settings > software and updates > download from
[03:33] <Elminster> O.o I installed ubuntu SERVER :D
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Other > select best server
[03:33] <cfhowlett> ah!  yeah that
[03:33] <Elminster> is it /etc/apt nano sources.list?
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: you doublechecked firewall/router block also?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> I think yes, but you will need the alternate
[03:34] <Elminster> I mean, I don't have a GUI
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Elminster, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors           perhaps select the one closest to you geographically
[03:38] <Elminster> Well regarding router, was it correct to insert the assigned DCHP client IP of the router/machine (in that case 192.168.1.11) of the new ubuntu server machine into the resolv.conf nameserver file?
[03:40] <destinydriven> Het guys, I'm trying to set up a directory so that any new child directories have the same folder permissions
[03:40] <destinydriven> I did some research and came up with this:  setfacl -R -d -m g::rwx -m o::rx files/
[03:40] <destinydriven> It didn't seem to do what I expected and I'm open to better approaches to this problem
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Elminster, see the "use mirror protocal" segment https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-select-the-fastest-apt-mirror-on-ubuntu-linux
[03:44] <Elminster> All right - I<ve added mirrors, and they result in the same error: Could not resolve "miror.blahhh..."
[03:46] <Poster> Elminster: you may want to temporarily update /etc/resolv.conf to use something like Google's public DNS, try putting this towards the top:
[03:46] <Poster> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[03:46] <Poster> then retry your operation
[03:51] <destinydriven> Sorry guys, turns out all I needed was this sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/example.com/public_html
[03:53] <Elminster> Poster: yep, just tried that... no success either
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Elminster: ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' has a positive result ?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: can you nmap your external ip to see firewall/router block perhaps?
[03:56] <Elminster> ping: ubuntu.com: Name or service not known
[03:57] <Elminster> lotuspsychje: I<m unfortunately not familiar enough wit hthe process at the moment
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Elminster: 'ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: nmap -PN -sV your-ip-here
[03:58] <Elminster> lotuspsychje: are we talking about the software from nmap.org? their book is on my to-read list for this winter...
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !yay | destinydriven
[03:59] <Elminster> Bashing-om: network is unreachable
[03:59] <Elminster> but it was succesful during the install
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: suco lshw -C network can show you if network drivers correctly?
[03:59] <destinydriven> lol
[04:00] <destinydriven> I'm learning slowly
[04:00] <Elminster> lotuspsychje: canèt use nmap, itès not installed and i canèt reach the servers..
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Elminster: Looks like the config is now inconsustent . hardware check ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' .
[04:03] <Elminster> lotuspsychje: yes, both network devices are disabled!
[04:03] <Elminster> Bashing-om: ping is succesful to 127.0.0.1
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: doesnt look good, shows driver= at bottom?
[04:04] <Elminster> yep
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Elminster: tryed a reboot?
[04:08] <Elminster> upon startup:Failed to connect to http://changelos.ubuntu......... Check your internet connection or proxy settings
[04:09] <DrManhattan> damn it. I can't find my spare dvi cable.
[04:09] <Elminster> Both network devices still show as disabled
[04:09] <DrManhattan> this is all Drone's fault
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> DrManhattan: no chitchat here plz
[04:11] <jas> wow..;x
[04:12] <Elminster> And on lshw network, where thereès usually eno0, eth0 or1, wlan0.... there's * instead. For both
[04:13] <DrManhattan> lotuspsychje, sorries - is there a social or OT chan available?
[04:13] <DrManhattan> some of us have no social lives
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !chat | DrManhattan sure!
[04:13] <DrManhattan> thx
[04:13] <Bashing-om> Elminster: ' cat /etc/network/interfaces ' verify it is simolar to this example : http://termbin.com/arl5 .
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> DrManhattan: there is also #ubuntu-discuss
[04:13] <Bashing-om> similar*
[04:14] <Elminster> Bashing-om: I only have the first two lines
[04:15] <Elminster> auto lo // lface lo inet loopback
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Elminster: this is a server and no GUI, no network-manager installed ?
[04:18] <Elminster> Bashing-om: Yes it is a server, no GUI --- I have not been able to install anything, except the auto-isntall (which had me successfully install the network)
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Elminster: strange that networking was not set up automagically . I do think we should make up that file . Link name and router IP : ' arp -a ' .
[04:26] <Elminster> link name == ??
[04:30] <Bashing-om> Elminster: in my case the link name is " enp1s9 " the name eth0 has been changed in recent releases .
[04:32] <Bashing-om> Elminster: " sysop@x1604:~$ arp -a >> dlinkrouter (192.168.0.1) at 6c:19:8f:eb:ca:1b [ether] on enp1s9 " .
[04:32] <Elminster> Ah! Yes. well under lshw -c network, there is only a star (*); therefore the "links" are unnamed..?
[04:33] <Bashing-om> Elminster: I think once we have the interface file configured things will start to look up .
[04:36] <Elminster> and I enter the ip and mac addresses I find on my router setting?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Elminster: the gateway is the router IP, and the adress is your machine IP . the mac is taken care of elsewhere .
[04:42] <Elminster> Hmmmm. didn't work. Gotta do more reading. Thanks Bashing-om.
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Elminster: If your router is going to hand out DHCP ( where your ISP has not assigned you a permanent IP _ then the line will be " iface <enp1s9> inet dhcp " .
[04:45] <Elminster> iface is not recognized as a command and empls9: No such file or directory..
[04:45] <Elminster> And correct, i do not have a static ip
[04:46] <Bashing-om> Elminster: enp1s9 is mine .. yours will be different ! I have 3 NICs in this box .
[04:47] <Elminster> Yes correct ;)  --- I cannot find mine! It's a * on the lshw network, and do not know anywhere else to find it? or do I create/assign it?
[04:47] <Amm0n> Elminster, "ip link" should list available interfaces
[04:48] <Elminster> !!! Thanks Amm0n.
[04:48] <Elminster> I get a half page full of errors
[04:48] <Elminster> fresh install :\
[04:49] <Bashing-om> Elminster: ' ip link ls ' might be a better result ?
[04:51] <Elminster> O.o sorry - no mistake, I was reading the wrong part... erm.... .CLEAR
[04:51] <Elminster> Yes, I see the three devicers, wonderful.
[04:52] <Elminster> 1: lo: LOOPBACK, UP, LOWER_UP (....)
[04:52] <Elminster> 2: eno1: (BROADCAST MULTICAST)
[04:52] <Elminster> 3: wlp2s0b1 (BROADCAST MULTICAST)
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Elminster: The wired interface then is eno1 . :)
[04:54] <Elminster> And the wireless is wlp2s0b1?
[04:54] <Elminster> No wire plugged in.
[04:54] <Elminster> I tried the iface <eno1> inet dhcp
[04:54] <Elminster> eno1: No such file or directory
[04:55] <Amm0n> eno1 would be for a wired connection
[04:55] <Bashing-om> Elminster: Sorry then for me .. I have never configured a wireless interface on a server . others here will have to advise .
[04:56] <Elminster> (...installing switch...)
[04:57] <oerheks> No wire plugged in....?
[04:58] <Elminster> no
[04:58] <Elminster> bad idea for a server eh
[04:58] <oerheks> oh good, continue configuring that wired interface then
[04:59]  * oerheks leaves the troll
[04:59] <Elminster> I'll leave it to that for now. Gotta be at work in 7 hours. I don't usually come across such helpful people..
[05:00] <Elminster> O.o so I'm a troll? lol
[05:00] <cfhowlett> pretty sure he meant someone else
[05:00] <Amm0n> Elminster, /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf edit to match your wifi settings
[05:00] <Bashing-om> Elminster: get some skeep then .. as a fresh mind will be needed .. and mine is no longer that fresh :)
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> wait? a server without a cable?
[05:01] <Amm0n> then: ip link set dev wlp2s0b1 up
[05:02] <Amm0n> wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp2s0b1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[05:02] <Amm0n> dhcpd wlp2s0b1
[05:04] <Elminster> Amm0n: I do not have a wpa_supplicant.conf file, while I do have the folder
[05:05] <Elminster> Thank you Bashing-om.. that was very helpful (I won't lose those new nuggets.. ;))
[05:05] <kristhian> hello can somebody help me out, how to install viber in linux?
[05:06] <kristhian> Linux kristhian-emachines-D725 4.4.0-96-generic #119-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 12 14:58:51 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:06] <kristhian> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[05:06] <kristhian> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[05:06] <kristhian> Release:	16.04
[05:06] <kristhian> Codename:	xenial
[05:07] <cfhowlett> kristhian, download the .deb file, then sudo dkpg -i <path to the viber .deb>
[05:08] <Elminster> Yep - confirmed: I do not have a wpa_supplicant.conf file
[05:08] <clickwir> What package choose if I want to report a bug about the desktop in general for Ubuntu 17.10?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> clickwir, desktop in general is not a package, so no bug report.  narrow your focus to a specific fail case and report on that package.
[05:10] <clickwir> cfhowlett, ok, how about the Dock?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> clickwir, what is the failure?
[05:11] <Amm0n> Elminster, well then you have to create one
[05:11] <clickwir> cfhowlett, First click, opens the minimized window. Second click does nothing. Should minimize.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> clickwir, check your dock behavior settings
[05:13] <clickwir> Thought I went through the settings, maybe I missed something. I'll check again.
[05:15] <Amm0n> Elminster, couldn't find a good documentation for ubuntu but this should work out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant
[05:15] <Elminster> Amm0n: https://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/plain/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf  ---- all right if I dig into that I'm not getting any sleep. Thanks a ton, and have agood day/night where ever you are.
[05:15] <Amm0n> you too
[05:17] <kristhian> i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux <- 32 bit architecture or 64?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> kristhian, match to your device
[05:18] <kristhian> i mean i duno if i686 is 32bit or 64bit
[05:18] <cfhowlett> 64
[05:19] <kristhian> ok
[05:20] <Bashing-om> kristhian: this is 64 bit result : x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux .
[05:20] <kristhian> ok Bashing-om, thanks
[05:23] <kristhian> cfhowlett, it's dpkg -i <directory to debfile.deb?
[05:23] <kristhian> correct?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> kristhian, easy way: drag and drop the .deb after sudo dpgk -i
[05:24] <cfhowlett> *** dpkg ***
[05:30] <kristhian> ok
[05:30] <kristhian> thank you
[05:31] <kristhian> btw i got this error
[05:31] <kristhian> dpkg: error processing archive /home/kristhian/Downloads/viber.deb (--install):
[05:32] <kristhian>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
[05:32] <kristhian> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:32] <kristhian>  /home/kristhian/Downloads/viber.deb
[05:32] <alkisg> Viber only supports 64bit installations, not 32bit
[05:35] <kristhian> actually i get this from this site
[05:35] <kristhian> https://www.viber.com/products/linux/
[05:35] <cfhowlett> kristhian, you can finagle 32 bit apps to run on 64bit devices.  NOT the reverse
[05:35] <kristhian> i think that is already 64bit
[05:36] <alkisg> kristhian: your installation is 32bit
[05:36] <alkisg> viber is 64bit
[05:37] <kristhian> ill try it again
[05:37] <alkisg> kristhian: you would need to reinstall ubuntu, using the amd64.iso
[05:39] <kristhian> isnt mine 64bit already?
[05:39] <kristhian> 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:39] <kristhian> Linux kristhian-emachines-D725 4.4.0-96-generic #119-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 12 14:58:51 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:40] <alkisg> kristhian: no, it isn't. `dpkg --print-architecture` will tell you i386.
[05:41] <alkisg> You'd need to use http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.3/ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso instead of ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[05:42] <kristhian> hmmm, so why i got different output in 'uname -a' and 'dpkg --print-architecture'
[05:42] <alkisg>  Linux alkis 4.10.0-37-generic #41~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 6 22:42:59 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:42] <cfhowlett> uname reports the KERNEL not the architecture
[05:42] <alkisg> This is the output of uname -a from a 64bit installation
[05:42] <kristhian> oh
[05:46] <kristhian> wait brb
[06:43] <nrdb> which c dialect should I use? the choices are gnu90, c90, gnu99, c99, gnu11,  c11
[06:45] <ducasse> nrdb: try ##c
[06:51] <MannyLNJ> Not sure if this is a Ubuntu issue or a Virtual Box issue.. https://pastebin.com/v8znwi8Z
[07:18] <Sterist> if I update to pre-release 17.10, then turn off pre-release updates afterwards, will I essentially end up with the standard issue on/around release day?
[07:20] <hateball> Sterist: yes
[07:20] <Sterist> awesome :)
[07:22] <Sterist> and, anyone know how to troubleshoot VPN refusing to turn on in 17.10? it doesn't appear to be related to display server change
[07:23] <Sterist> the instant I click my setting that worked perfectly pre-update, it switches back off without error message
[07:23] <Sterist> already tried putting my password in again in case that didn't carry over
[07:25] <Bashing-om> !17.10 | Sterist
[07:25] <Sterist> thankies
[07:26] <Bashing-om> Sterist: :)
[07:44] <aledesc> hi...
[07:45] <aledesc> i have came across an issue i can't solve ....
[07:45] <hateball> !ask
[07:45] <aledesc> the key strokes to change workspaces stop working, i've installed 16.04 LTS
[07:46] <aledesc> i'm doing development, is a pain in the ... cause i change ws all the time ..
[07:46] <aledesc> i've googled a lot but can't find a solution
[07:47] <aledesc> any  ideas ?
[07:47] <aledesc> anybody have solved this before ?
[07:49] <aledesc> any link pointing to a solution _
[07:49] <aledesc> ?
[07:52] <hateball> aledesc: It's not working despite you having configured the hotkeys for it?
[07:52] <hateball> I don't use Unity so I'm not familiar with how it works
[07:53] <aledesc> yes, i went to keyboard configuration, shortcuts, and reentered the shortcuts... but still not working..
[07:53] <aledesc> funny thing is I've not changed anything on config lately
[07:54] <aledesc> anything but the keystrokes
[07:55] <Amm0n> aladesc, Ctrl+Alt+→ not working? tried to use a different keyboardlayout?
[07:57] <aledesc> gonna try
[08:05] <aledesc> Amm0m, changed to diff kb layotu, no gains
[08:05] <aledesc> still not working ....
[08:06] <aledesc> even, assigned keystrokes to go directly to wss, not working neither ..
[08:09] <Amm0n> aledesc, maybe it's something with keymap, but i'm not sure how ubuntu 16.04 handles this, try "localectl status"
[08:11] <Amm0n> aledesc, this is how systemd handles keymap: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/vconsole.conf.html
[08:11] <aledesc> i thing some daemon stop working
[08:11] <aledesc> think, sorry ..
[08:54] <bryanfrommacau> hi
[08:55] <bryanfrommacau> I would like to set up a personal ftp server, but I want it to be secure
[08:56] <Amm0n> don't use ftp then
[08:56] <bryanfrommacau> I would like to avoid sftp, because I heard that the GFC slows down ssh traffic (I'm not sure if that's true or not)
[08:56] <bryanfrommacau> I was wondering if anyone had tips on ftps
[08:56] <bryanfrommacau> tbh I don't know much about this kind of thing
[08:57] <bryanfrommacau> (I know I should google this, but I'm in china and am having trouble accessing my vpn lately)
[08:59] <kristhian> question
[09:00] <kristhian> in what directory will i find the log of my history?
[09:00] <bryanfrommacau> command line history?
[09:00] <kristhian> yep
[09:03] <bryanfrommacau> is it still ~./bash_history
[09:03] <bryanfrommacau> type the word history into your terminal
[09:05] <geirha> ls -l "$HISTFILE"
[09:05] <Amm0n> bryanfrommacau, GFC?
[09:06] <bryanfrommacau> Great Firewall of China
[09:07] <bryanfrommacau> Sorry I should have mentioned that I'm in china
[09:07] <bryanfrommacau> I think that they slow down ssh for some reason, rather than outright blocking it
[09:07] <kristhian> aw, yes
[09:07] <kristhian> thank you
[09:08] <bryanfrommacau> But I'm not sure if that applies if my server is inside china also, so I would be willing to give it a try
[09:09] <geirha> https is also an option
[09:10] <Amm0n> if you want it to be secure, it should be encrypted and i don't know if there is a difference if you use something like vsftpd with ssl or ssh
[09:10] <bryanfrommacau> I would actually mostly like to send files to the server so that I can access them when I get home, can https do that?
[09:11] <geirha> sure
[09:12] <vijaikumar> hello folks
[09:12] <bryanfrommacau> I'll look into vsftpd with ssl
[09:12] <vijaikumar> if i wanted to check what are all the file accessed by an executable in ubuntu (in an users home)
[09:12] <bryanfrommacau> both should be secure, right?
[09:12] <vijaikumar> s/if i wanted to/i want to
[09:14] <vijaikumar> is there any tool that can help achieve this ?
[09:14] <hateball> vijaikumar: lsof
[09:14] <bryanfrommacau> how would https work?  I thought that was only for serving files....would I have to develop a web interface?
[09:15] <vijaikumar> hateball: Thanks. I will check out the tool.
[09:15] <hateball> vijaikumar: run with --help or read the manpage to see the different options you might want to use
[09:16] <vijaikumar> Thanks hateball. Reading the manpage already :)
[09:20] <bryanfrommacau> is SCP a good method?
[09:21] <hateball> bryanfrommacau: SFTP (scp) is preferable to FTPS
[09:23] <Amm0n> bryanfrommacau, interesting: http://blog.zorinaq.com/my-experience-with-the-great-firewall-of-china/
[09:23] <bryanfrommacau> SFTP and SCP aren't different things?
[09:23] <vijaikumar> hateball: lsof -p pid helped my case :)
[09:23] <Amm0n> i hope it's not blocked
[09:24] <hateball> vijaikumar: :)
[09:24] <hateball> !sftp
[09:26] <bryanfrommacau> seems it's not blocked....it's a long read, but I'll try to get through it :)
[09:27] <bryanfrommacau> !scp
[09:28] <bryanfrommacau> my understanding is that sftp is ssh and ftp, but scp seems to be something else
[09:28] <bryanfrommacau> ssh but not ftp
[09:30] <geirha> sftp and ftp are similar only in name. Their protocols are entirely different. sftp being the sane one
[09:31] <Amm0n> sftp is an own protocol, it's not ftp over ssh
[09:31] <Amm0n> scp is copy files over ssh
[09:40] <Amm0n> this gfc thing is pretty scary
[09:40] <bryanfrommacau> yeah, and it's  getting worse
[09:41] <bryanfrommacau> For the past few days my vpn servers keep becoming unavailable
[09:41] <bryanfrommacau> but we can still access most of the internet....just no google, facebook, youtube....
[09:42] <Amm0n> startpage or ixquick?
[09:45] <bryanfrommacau> ixquick.de seems to work
[09:45] <bryanfrommacau> no .com
[09:45] <bryanfrommacau> I'm not familiar with those
[09:51] <bryanfrommacau> I type sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:51] <bryanfrommacau> It goes through the usual information and then says After this operation, 5,144 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:51] <bryanfrommacau> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort.
[09:52] <bryanfrommacau> Each time it aborts
[09:53] <TomyWork> Oct 14 13:05:04 100-lu16-git systemd-journald[23915]: Runtime journal (/run/log/journal/) is 44.4M, max 39.5M, 0B free.
[09:53] <Amm0n> Not very practical but secure is to encrypt your files locally. Then the protocol you are using doesn't matter much.
[09:53] <TomyWork> I suspect that one of my custom services goes into a broken state after that line in the logs
[09:54] <TomyWork> as evidenced by EPIPE errors from the application
[09:54] <TomyWork> "Broken pipe @ io_write - <STDERR>"
[09:54] <TomyWork> how can i test this theory?
[09:55] <TomyWork> can i tell journald to do the same action deliberately?
[09:55] <bryanfrommacau> I thought about doing that too Amm0n
[09:55] <okdana> tell journald to do what action
[09:56] <bryanfrommacau> I'm actually not to worried about the content that I'm transferring, I just don't want to be a target for hackers
[09:57] <Amm0n> bryanfrommacau, openssh-server should be part of the ubuntu.iso you could extract it from there
[09:58] <tomeaton17> I have just install pulseaudio-equalizer, how do I now run this?
[09:58] <vanstinger> Hello can anyone here tell me if snappy ubuntu is a good os for web development over a raspberry pi? Will it be too slow for performance in building website and search
[10:03] <Amm0n> bryanfrommacau, maybe another place to ask is ##networking on this server
[10:04] <bryanfrommacau> ok, I'll try
[10:04] <bryanfrommacau> i got ssh installed using symantic
[10:04] <bryanfrommacau> i mean openssh
[10:05] <Amm0n> cool, gl mate
[10:08] <okdana> i noticed that zsh in artful wasn't updated from zesty, and is now two versions behind
[10:08] <okdana> what's the deal with that :/
[10:18] <vanstinger> is snappy a good os for web development
[10:19] <Ben64> sure
[10:20] <rh10> guys, best filesystem for external hdd drive?
[10:20] <rh10> good day, btw :)
[10:31] <tenny-e> hi . i need to compile an older version of apache 1.3.9 on lastest ubuntu but i get this when trying to compile http_protocol.c:662:12: error: conflicting types for 'getline'
[10:32] <ss942> hello, I used ubuntu already on VirtualMachine to use anbox (android VM), now I wanted to install xubuntu 16.04 on hard drive and I meet some problems...
[10:33] <ss942> problems with grub2 it hadn't installed properly I can't run nor manjaro nor ubuntu
[10:33] <EriC^^> ss942: what problems?
[10:33] <ss942> the source of problem is probably uefi
[10:33] <EriC^^> ss942: try launching the installer with "ubiquity -b" from the installer
[10:33] <ss942> is there cool tool that can do everything for me and I'd be able to install from live ?
[10:33] <EriC^^> *from the terminal
[10:34] <EriC^^> then manually install grub from a live usb chroot
[10:35] <EriC^^> ss942: does the installer actually make an error saying "grub2 couldn't be installed properly?"
[10:35] <ss942> EriC^^: it did when I picked automatic installation, then I did manual partitioning and it said that everything was installed correctly
[10:36] <EriC^^> ss942: aha, are you in the live usb right now?
[10:36] <ss942> yes
[10:38] <EriC^^> ss942: ok, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:38] <EriC^^> ss942: also type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:39] <ss942> http://termbin.com/u4j1
[10:40] <ss942> no boot flag...
[10:40] <ss942> http://termbin.com/5blu
[10:41] <ss942> brb my cat would eat me If I wouldn't feed him right now
[10:43] <EriC^^> ss942: if you dont have any data on the pc, create a fresh partition table of type gpt, and reinstall
[10:44] <TomyWork> okdana well it says "Runtime journal (/run/log/journal/) is 44.4M, max 39.5M, 0B free." and "Journal started". whatever that action is :)
[10:49] <okdana> that's just the message it prints when the journal service is started
[10:52] <ss942> EriC^^: I have some data on this manjaro (147GB partition) I can backup this but I have just 40 minutes to left house and go to job...
[10:52] <EriC^^> ss942: do it when you come back
[10:53] <ss942> sounds like plan
[10:53] <ss942> thanks, and bye then
[10:53] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:54] <TomyWork> okdana so systemctl restart journald should trigger it?
[10:55] <TomyWork> err "systemctl restart systemd-journald", of course
[11:06] <okdana> yes
[11:15] <leotreasure> hello, I tried a newer kernel to get open source gfx but seems my apt is a bit broken now
[11:18] <leotreasure> trying to get vega working
[11:23] <EriC^^> leotreasure: pastebin the errors
[11:23] <EriC^^> !paste | leotreasure
[11:23] <leotreasure> "software index is broken"
[11:23] <leotreasure> thanks EriC^^
[11:23] <EriC^^> leotreasure: what does "sudo apt-get -f install" give?
[11:24] <leotreasure> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25752303/
[11:24] <EriC^^> you say you installed the opensource drivers from the ubuntu repos?
[11:24] <saint_cussed> Hi
[11:27] <EriC^^> leotreasure: pastebin dpkg -l | grep -Ev "^(ii|rc)" also apt-cache policy libdrm-amdgpu1
[11:36] <codepython777> To remotely update and manage machines, what is a good software to use: landscale? ansible? salt? ... ?
[11:44] <codepython777> is there a way to run memtest but restrict it to only 30 seconds?
[11:46] <leotreasure> hi i didn't see anything anyone may have replied because i had black screen and had to reboot
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:03] <lesshaste> how do get remove a ppa from my system?
[12:05] <geirha> ppa-purge, then remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:05] <geirha> or I guess ppa-purge already disables it, so the second step would be unecessary
[12:08] <lesshaste> thanks
[12:09] <demetan> hi I want to open port 443 on iptables, how I can do this please ?
[12:11] <TJ-> demetan: "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT" I seem to recall
[12:11] <demetan> TJ: thank you
[12:12] <sruli> TJ-: I pm'd you
[12:27] <gazler> Could someone help me diagnose a crash please? I had a system freeze, I could still use the mouse, but only on one monitor, the other monitor was frozen with the cursor in place. I couldn't actually do anything on the working screen though. I checked the syslog and found this: https://gist.github.com/Gazler/722c92e2cfbe8daecb7320333d9af1e7
[12:28] <gazler> I was able to execute REISUB, but it didn't fully reboot.
[12:29] <gazler> Ubuntu 17.04, kernel: 4.13.3-041303-generic #201709200606
[12:42] <Cooler> you know nautilus has a very poor search function
[12:43] <Cooler> does it even check subfolder recursively?
[12:43] <Cooler> subfolders*
[12:44] <Cooler> i type .java into nautilus in a folder full of *.java files and it shows up nothing
[12:45] <V7> https://www.alexhudson.com/2017/10/15/wpa2-broken-krack-now/
[12:52] <ducasse> gazler: try with a kernel from the repos, see if it happens again.
[12:56] <gazler> ducasse: You mean from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[12:59] <ducasse> gazler: no, those are just for testing. use an official kernel for your release.
[13:00] <gazler> Oh - it was happening before too, which is why I updated the kernel in the first place.
[13:12] <CaptainQuirk> Hi people
[13:12] <CaptainQuirk> I'm stuck at installing java on my 16.04
[13:13] <CaptainQuirk> it even fails other package install
[13:13] <EriC^^> !paste | CaptainQuirk paste the errors
[13:13] <CaptainQuirk> EriC^^, on its way
[13:14] <CaptainQuirk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25752912/
[13:14] <CaptainQuirk> I guess I have to launch a dpkg command to solve this
[13:15] <CaptainQuirk> but I have no idea how
[13:15] <CaptainQuirk> I was following install instructions from this : http://eclim.org/install.html
[13:16] <CaptainQuirk> I needed the JDK
[13:17] <oerheks> Oracle Java 7 ?? even openjdk has nly 8 and 9
[13:18] <CaptainQuirk> I still see an oracle-java7-installer when doing an apt-cache search
[13:18] <oerheks> i would use the webup8team ppa, it gives 6-7-8-9 .. https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java >>> ppa:webupd8team/java
[13:18] <Squarism> People happy with gnome base 17.10? Better or worse than Unity? Or just different?
[13:18] <oerheks> !java
[13:19] <Squarism> based
[13:19] <oerheks> Squarism, join #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 discussion/support, until release
[13:19] <CaptainQuirk> oerheks, yes, well trying to install a jdk
[13:19] <Squarism> oh, thought it had been released
[13:20] <oerheks> Squarism, nope, 3 more days
[13:21] <alkisg> Squarism: for some reason you have an old java7 package, which points to an oracle link that no longer exists, so use the webupd8 ppa to install either a newer java7 package, or java8/9
[13:21] <CaptainQuirk> oerheks, I keep on getting the same error after trying to install the oracle-java8-installer
[13:22] <CaptainQuirk> something lingers in dpkg
[13:22] <alkisg> You need to remove the old, bad java7 installer
[13:22] <alkisg> Either update or remove it
[13:22] <CaptainQuirk> as far as I've read, it never got installed
[13:22] <alkisg> CaptainQuirk: sorry, these were for you, not for Squarism ^
[13:22] <Squarism> =D
[13:22] <alkisg> It's installed but not configured
[13:22] <alkisg> sudo apt purge oracle-java7-installer
[13:24] <CaptainQuirk> alkisg thanks
[13:24] <alkisg> np
[13:25] <oerheks> alkisg, can i pm you ?
[13:26] <alkisg> oerheks: sure
[13:26] <alkisg> I might reply a bit slow due to visitors...
[13:53] <a0ssed> What up, i have a problem with my /boot, its 100% full and i tried deleting old kernels but its somehow not working,   uname -r =  4.4.0-89-generic
[13:53] <a0ssed> when i list kernels with dpkg -l linux-image*
[13:53] <a0ssed>  and try to delete old ones with    sudo dpkg -P linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic  it doenst work
[13:53] <a0ssed> dpkg: error processing package linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic (--purge):
[13:53] <a0ssed> dependency problems - not removing
[13:54] <a0ssed> autoremove doenst work aswell^^
[13:55] <ducasse> a0ssed: add the linux-image...-extra package on the dpkg command line
[13:57] <a0ssed> like that?   sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.2.0-15-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-15-generic
[13:57] <ducasse> yep
[13:58] <ducasse> also remember to remove the headers, or you will run out of inodes
[13:59] <a0ssed> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-images-extra-4.4.0-38-generic which isn't installed
[14:00] <a0ssed> gimme a sec.. i post everything
[14:00] <ducasse> a0ssed: well, read the error to see which package it depends on
[14:01] <a0ssed> https://justpaste.it/1ch2x
[14:03] <ducasse> what do you get if you just try to purge linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic?
[14:03] <Cooler> ducasse: a broken os
[14:04] <a0ssed> dpkg: error processing package linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic (--purge):
[14:04] <a0ssed>  dependency problems - not removing
[14:04] <a0ssed>    same
[14:04] <sohail-ahmed> I have just removed xubuntu and have installed ubuntu-desktop but on login the login screen reappears. I have tried all the solutions available over the internet like removing .xauthority and setting a user permission on HOME. any help would be greatly appreacited
[14:04] <ducasse> a0ssed: but which package does it say it depends on? post the full error
[14:05] <a0ssed> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic:
[14:05] <a0ssed>  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-38-generic depends on linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic.
[14:06] <a0ssed> im stupid... i wrote  "images"
[14:06] <ducasse> a0ssed: you can use tab expansion of package names
[14:07] <a0ssed> >.< ye i know
[14:17] <a0ssed> umg it worked <3  i can autoremove and -f install  now :D
[14:25] <sohail-ahmed> no answer
[14:41] <LTCD> Hi I installed droppy from command line. I uploaded some files but can't find them, where are they? I typed which droopy into command line and it told me it's inside of:   /usr/bin/droopy
[14:41] <LTCD> Needless to say I can't find them there...
[14:43] <LTCD> Found it in root nevermind
[14:44] <sohail-ahmed> I have just removed xubuntu and have installed ubuntu-desktop but on login the login screen reappears. I have tried all the solutions available over the internet like removing .xauthority and setting a user permission on HOME. any help would be greatly appreacited
[14:44] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, what do you mean ? you don't want a login screen ?
[14:45] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, or are you talking about the theme ?
[14:46] <tgm4883> ioria: sounds like X crashing back to login
[14:46] <ioria> tgm4883, oh, i see
[14:47] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, you mean you can't  login in ?
[14:48] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: as usual when you enter your password on the login screen, you are supposed to get the desktop but i am getting that login screen again. thanks for responding
[14:48] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:with out any additional message
[14:48] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  can you open a console ?
[14:48] <sohail-ahmed> yes
[14:49] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  so you first installed Xubuntu ?
[14:49] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes
[14:49] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  and on xubuntu you installed  ubuntu-desktop ?
[14:50] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: it was there for over a year or two and then i installed ubuntu-desktop
[14:50] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:yes
[14:50] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  uname -r
[14:50] <LTCD> Guys I have some files inside of root, I used gksu nautilus /   to access them. How can I copy them to desktop as it says permissions denied?!
[14:50] <sohail-ahmed> 3.11.0-26-generic
[14:50] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  that kernel dos not exist
[14:51] <ioria> *does
[14:51] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   cat /etc/issue
[14:51] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: but this is what i am getting when i type uname -r in terminal
[14:51] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   i got it
[14:51] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   cat /etc/issue
[14:52] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: for the record i am logged in with gnome[metacity]
[14:52] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   cat /etc/issue
[14:52] <ducasse> !permissions | LTCD
[14:52] <sohail-ahmed> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[14:52] <LTCD> ducasse I'll read into it, but is there a quick way I can change it now? On a time limit sorry.
[14:53] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[14:53] <tgm4883> LTCD: use sudo and the command line
[14:53] <LTCD> ducasse Like I did chmod 777 file.docx but I still can't copy it :/
[14:53] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,     apt-cache policy linux-generic | grep Cand
[14:54] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: d ioria:  Candidate: 3.13.0.133.142
[14:54] <sohail-ahmed>  
[14:55] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   ok, let's see what you have : dpkg -l|grep linux-image-[0-9]|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'
[14:55] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   on paste.ubuntu.com, please not here
[14:56] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753482/
[14:57] <LTCD> tgm4883 Mind walking me through, I swear I have done this before without a single drama
[14:57] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   eally don't know why 3.13 is on top of the list, but i suggest you to reboot and from Grub->Advanced Optio, choose 3.13.0-98
[14:58] <Ha55an> Hi, is there any information on a possible patch to the krack wpa2 issue?
[14:58] <tgm4883> LTCD: 'sudo cp <filefrompath> <filetopath>'
[14:58] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   sorry, really don't know why 3.11 is on top of the list, but i suggest you to reboot and from Grub->Advanced Optio, choose 3.13.0-98
[14:58] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: would that solve my ubuntu logging in problem
[14:59] <ducasse> Ha55an: it will soon be made available
[14:59] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   idk, but you need to apt-get update and dist-upgrade
[14:59] <catbehemoth> if I want to prevent vms running from being put into swap (if not used for a long time) will sysctl vm.swappinnes=0 do it or do I need to use hugepages or some other trick?
[14:59] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: should i first reboot or upgrade first
[15:00] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  rebbot
[15:00] <catbehemoth> vm being windows 10 on kvm on top of ubunto server 16.04
[15:00] <tgm4883> Ha55an: there's a handful of CVE's to follow it seems
[15:00] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  ok see you in a minute or two
[15:00] <ioria> ok
[15:00] <LTCD> tgm4883 It said no such file or directory, the report is saved in root.  sudo cp /report.docx /home/just1337/Desktop/x.docx
[15:00] <tgm4883> LTCD: well then you've got the wrong from path
[15:01] <tgm4883> LTCD: did you look in /root/
[15:01] <Ha55an> Thanks Ducasse  & tgm4883. At work we got emails that Linux is affected but not windows :/
[15:01] <LTCD> What is path for root, like you said /root/ ?
[15:01] <tgm4883> LTCD: depends on if you're looking for root (/) or the root users home directory (/root/)
[15:02] <nacc> catbehemoth: 0 only means only use swap if OOM
[15:02] <nacc> catbehemoth: it does not mean don't use swap
[15:03] <nacc> catbehemoth: so you need to pin (mlock) your application memory if you want it to stay resident
[15:03] <LTCD> tgm4883 I've got them onto desktop but they have a padlock icon. How can I change permissions since I'm not the owner? Thanks for your help so far.
[15:03] <nacc> catbehemoth: note, also, that swapiness is a global, not a per-VM thing
[15:03] <tgm4883> Ha55an: that's funny, the source I'm reading states it affects pretty much everything "Android, Linux, Apple, Windows, OpenBSD, MediaTek, Linksys, and others, are all affected by some variant of the attacks."
[15:04] <tgm4883> LTCD: use chown or chmod
[15:04] <Ha55an> Yes, they misread it. One type of attack doesn't apply to win7 and 10. But they are still affected.
[15:06] <LTCD> tgm4883 Sorry stupid question. Thanks so much, I feel like I drop 50 IQ points each time I step onto a computer :/
[15:07] <catbehemoth> nacc: am I betting mlocking it or enabling hugepages?
[15:08] <tgm4883> Ha55an: These should be the CVE's to follow https://paste.ubuntu.com/25753532/
[15:09] <nacc> catbehemoth: they are different, and have different implications
[15:12] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  when I did advance options for ubuntu during reboot. I could not see 3.13.0-98. the options were 3.11.0-17 upto 26
[15:12] <catbehemoth> nacc: hugepages permanently reserves the ram for a vm, mlock does it on per process basis right? so why are all the guides for performance tuning vms use hugepages and not mlock?
[15:13] <catbehemoth> nacc: or am I not understanding something?
[15:13] <nacc> catbehemoth: because hugepages give their own impact
[15:13] <nacc> catbehemoth: also, iirc, on some archs, hugpeages are swappable
[15:18] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  are you sure;  i see  3.13 kern from 44 to 98
[15:19] <sudoman1> I have opened port 22 for listening and sshd is running two but still I am getting connection refused on client machine.
[15:19] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes i didnot see 3.13 i just did sudo update-grub and am doing the reboot now
[15:19] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: shoud I
[15:20] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  why did you update-grub ?
[15:20] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: since the advance options were not showing my recent kernel versions
[15:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  i'am losting you
[15:21] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: where
[15:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  ok, now can you select 3.13-98 kern ?
[15:21] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: look
[15:21] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: for that to see, i need to reboot
[15:21] <ioria> ok
[15:22] <alkisg> sudoman1: can you run `ssh localhost` on the client itself?
[15:24] <sudoman1> alkisg: no
[15:25] <alkisg> sudoman1: then sshd isn't running?
[15:25] <alkisg> dpkg -l openssh-server; sudo netstat -ntap|grep :22
[15:26] <sudoman1> alkisg: client machine is my android phone and I am using an ssh client app on it. It worked yesterday but don't know what happened today.
[15:26] <alkisg> sudoman1: for android questions, try #android
[15:26] <alkisg> Sorry, `ssh localhost` I meant on the server
[15:26] <alkisg> Not on the client
[15:27] <alkisg> Can the server connect to itself?
[15:28] <sudoman1> alkisg: yes on the server it can connect to itself. I have also checked sshd status it is active. I think everything is fine here
[15:28] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  it did not show up
[15:28] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  meaning ? no 31.13-98 kernel ?
[15:28] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes
[15:29] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  uname -r
[15:29] <alkisg> sudoman1: try from an ubuntu client before trying with android
[15:30] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria:3.11.0-26-generic
[15:30] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   ls /boot
[15:31] <sudoman1> alkisg: ubuntu client but where can I get it ?
[15:31] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753659/
[15:31] <sudoman1> I have only one machine here which has ubuntu installed on it.
[15:31] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   do you see vmlinuz-3.13.0-98-generic   ? boot this one
[15:32] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: how
[15:32] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   run  sudo update-grub and see if it shows up
[15:33] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria:  i tried it just 2 minutes ago.. with update-grub and it did not show up
[15:33] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   what is extlinux  ? why is there ?
[15:34] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   btw, can you put sudo update-grub in a pastebinit ?
[15:34] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: i am over dual boot and made some partitions long ago and didnot rember the purpose of extlinux
[15:34] <ioria> EXTLINUX is a Syslinux variant which boots from a Linux filesystem.
[15:35] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753677/
[15:36] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,    Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-98-generic and you're not dual booting
[15:36] <bryanfrommacau> hi, I have a partition on my hard drive which can be found at /media/username/D
[15:36] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  by dual booting i mean the windows is installed on the same machine
[15:36] <bryanfrommacau> but when I SFTP into the machine, I can't find it
[15:36] <bryanfrommacau> (That's where I would like to send my files if possible)
[15:37] <bryanfrommacau> Is there another way to see this file?
[15:37] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,    as you wish, but grub has found 3.13.0-98-generic
[15:37] <bryanfrommacau> i mean partition
[15:37] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  this is the same message i get earlier and when i reboot the options for 3.13 were not there
[15:38] <UNIVERSOTELECO> Hi
[15:40] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   copy an paste  :   dpkg -l|grep linux-image-[0-9]|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'|sort -r| cat -n; echo "select kernel : "; read line; sudo  grub-reboot "1>$(($line+1))"
[15:40] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  its asking for the option, should i select the top one
[15:41] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   the number according to 3.13.0-98
[15:42] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: its askign for permission to reboot
[15:42] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   yes
[15:43] <motaka2> Hi when I start my ubuntu, after the grub page, on the logo page, ubuntu 16.04 hals. What should I do  ?
[15:45] <MannyLNJ> 16.04 LTS on a Ideapad 560 every time I boot I get the message that there was a system problem. I need help fixing this.
[15:46] <strive> MannyLNJ: I had that problem in the past and fixed it with: https://askubuntu.com/questions/566865/system-problem-detected-message-is-shown-everytime-i-boot-lubuntu-14-04
[15:46] <lordcirth_work> 'cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda1' doesn't prompt for a password and doesn't create a valid LUKS partition; but no error is given
[15:47] <UNIVERSOTELECO> hi kids
[15:48] <MannyLNJ> strive, I will read that link
[15:48] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:3.11.0-26-generic is returned when i do uname -r now. same as previous. additional i also could not see options for 3.13 in advanced option while rebooting
[15:48] <alkisg> bryanfrommacau: ubuntu automounts some partitions when you log in, so if you sftp and you're not logged in locally, you won't see them. To see them, you'd put them in /etc/fstab so that they're mounted at boot.
[15:49] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   i guess because you're not using grub, but something else ?
[15:49] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: how can i check that
[15:49] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  dpkg -l | grep  extlinux
[15:49] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  i can see grub when i do command line options while rebooting
[15:50] <alkisg> motaka2: do you mean "halts"? Does recovery mode work?
[15:50] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753751/
[15:51] <motaka2> alkisg: I dont think so. now I see this message "welcome to emergency mode"
[15:51] <ioria> !info  extlinux | sohail-ahmed
[15:51] <alkisg> motaka2: did it work previously?
[15:52] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: sory
[15:52] <motaka2> alkisg: It was working, I installed windows 10, then I used grub repaire, and now this happened
[15:53] <alkisg> motaka2: do you have an ubuntu live cd?
[15:53] <alkisg> !grub
[15:53] <motaka2> alkisg: yes
[15:53] <alkisg> motaka2: nice, boot with that one so that we can have feedback
[15:53] <motaka2> ok please wait
[15:54] <alkisg> !bootinfo
[15:54] <alkisg> motaka2: boot with the live cd and paste that ^
[15:54] <motaka2> alkisg: ok
[15:55] <motaka2> thnks. it is booting
[15:55] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   never used that pkg, idk what it does exactly;  btw you can try to update && dist-upgrade anyway
[15:56] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: by package you mean extlinux
[15:56] <ioria> yes
[15:57] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: though i did long ago but i think its not a package but a partition just to made to increase you ram... so as to give your system another space to write down when ram is crowded
[15:58] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   i linked you above the package details
[15:59] <lordcirth_work> My bad, you need 'YES' not 'yes' on the cryptsetup prompt, and it gives 0 feedback
[15:59] <kappa1> hi! How can I see boot messages from 2 boots ago? the last one I can see by simply typing dmesg
[16:00] <lordcirth_work> kappa1, dmesg is the in-ram kernel log; if you enable persistent logging in journald then you can read past logs with journalctl
[16:00] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: what should i do now
[16:01] <kappa1> lordcirth_work, so there is no other way?
[16:01] <MannyLNJ> I'm back. I rebooted but am still getting the message Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error. Actually I am getting two of them.
[16:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   if i were you, i'd try to remove that pkg, then update/upgrade and degub your video issue
[16:01] <lordcirth_work> kappa1, iirc 16.04 doesn't keep kernel logs after reboot by default.
[16:02] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: how can i remove that package
[16:02] <foca__> Hey guys. Wicd is starting with a different ip, it's configured to get a static ip 192.168.0.240 but it gets 192.168.0.170 every time I start or restart it. What's happening ?
[16:03] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   before that,  you should know why did you install  it (for what purpose i mean)
[16:03] <motaka2> alkisg: could you please tell me what I should do ?
[16:03] <motaka2> it is now on
[16:04] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: it was long ago.. i do not remember... any way even the worst happen ... meaning my ubuntu gets destroyed... its not an issue..
[16:04] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  do you have other os on that machine ?
[16:04] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: yes windows
[16:04] <MannyLNJ> More info: One of the errors is in /usr/bin/mediascanner-service-2.0 and the second error is in /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon
[16:05] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, so you can destroy it too :)
[16:05] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: i would love but as soon as linux start supporting directx for gamming
[16:05] <strive> MannyLNJ: Are those something you need?
[16:06] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, no, i mean try to remove that pkg, might make windows unbootable
[16:07] <motaka2> alkisg: I am back and I am sorry, could you please let me know what I should do ?
[16:07] <alkisg> motaka2: see this:
[16:07] <alkisg> !bootinfo
[16:07] <motaka2> alkisg: nothing
[16:07] <alkisg> (06:54:23 μμ) ubottu: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.
[16:07] <alkisg> (06:54:34 μμ) alkisg: motaka2: boot with the live cd and paste that ^
[16:07] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: thanks for being careful .. gaming is already hurting my time so that would be a blessing
[16:08] <motaka2> alkisg: paste what ?
[16:08] <alkisg> The output of that script
[16:09] <alkisg> Read that site for instructions
[16:09] <alkisg> It will show us the details of your setup
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: btw i am using two hard disk, might of any help
[16:12] <MannyLNJ> strive, I have no idea what the /zeitgeist-daemon is needed or not
[16:14] <ducasse> MannyLNJ: it's an activity log service
[16:14] <strive> MannyLNJ: Check to see if that activity log service is running.
[16:14] <strive> Shalom!
[16:15] <MannyLNJ> ducasse, thanks, strive how do I see if that service is running?
[16:18] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, how do you boot win  .. from bios ?
[16:19] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i start my pc, the boot screen appears showing me ubuntu, advance options for ubuntu, memory tests and windows. and i select windows and windows starts
[16:20] <foca__> Wicd starting up with a different IP that's configured. Anyone could help me here ?
[16:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  lets do this; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ... and see what it tells you
[16:21] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: simple upgrade or dist-upgrade
[16:22] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have nvidia prime but it doesn't effect steam, it still uses the intel drivers. this is what i get when i type "sudo prime-select nvidia" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753945/
[16:23] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, upgrade, for now
[16:24] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: runing.... do you want pastebin the output
[16:24] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sure
[16:26] <bryanfrommacau> how can I put them in /etc/fstab?
[16:27] <bryanfrommacau> oh sorry, I had scrolled up earlier, I didn't realize how high up my last comment was
[16:28] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have nvidia prime but it doesn't effect steam, it still uses the intel drivers. this is what i get when i type "sudo prime-select nvidia" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753945/
[16:29] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753984/
[16:31] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  now,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:33] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753995/ , should i run autoremove
[16:33] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  it's all ?
[16:34] <sohail-ahmed> yes
[16:34] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes
[16:34] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  it should prompt you for install the latest  trusty kernel,  3.13...-133
[16:35] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  but no body prompted me yet ;[
[16:35] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  can you paste  dpkg -l | grep grub ?
[16:36] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754006/
[16:39] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  you have a grub problem, in my opinion
[16:39] <EriC^^> grub1 is installed and some grub2 packages
[16:40] <ioria> EriC^^, he should install grub2 and remove grub (0.97)
[16:40] <EriC^^> yes
[16:40] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, ^ EriC^^
[16:40] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: how, being a noob
[16:41] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get remove grub grub2+
[16:41] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, ^ E
[16:41] <sohail-ahmed> runing
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  done
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: dist-upgrade
[16:43] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  EriC^^ sudo apt-get install grub2 grub2-common  ?
[16:44] <EriC^^> ioria: sure
[16:44] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, ^
[16:45] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754038/
[16:45] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   paste  dpkg -l | grep grub , please
[16:46] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754047/
[16:48] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  should be ok, EriC^^  try to rebbot ?
[16:48] <EriC^^> yup
[16:48] <alkisg> sudo apt  purge grub; sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, to make sure?
[16:48]  * alkisg didn't read above, though...
[16:48] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  reboot, mate
[16:49] <ioria> alkisg, sy, didn't see your comment
[16:49] <alkisg> np, I only read the last pastebin, ignore me :)
[16:55] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: EriC^^: now i can see the recent kernel version in advance options for ubuntu and uname -r also returns 3.13 but i am still unable to login into ubuntu
[16:56] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  ok, please   show   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade output
[16:56] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: its working
[16:57] <EriC^^> !ping
[16:57] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754091/
[16:59] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  not what i was expecting;    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:59] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: unable to login how? it takes you back to the login screen?
[16:59] <ioria> EriC^^, yes
[16:59] <EriC^^> did you check ~/.Xauthority ?
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: ioria: yes i remove it couple of times
[17:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  uname -r
[17:01] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: can you pastebin the output of 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?'
[17:01] <EriC^^> * 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: uname -r returns 3.13
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754126/
[17:03] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,    3.13  ... what ?
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: 3.13.0-98-generic
[17:04] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   you still need to upgrade the kernel
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:should again run update and upgrade
[17:04] <ioria> yes
[17:05] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:05] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: k
[17:05] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,      EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" , btw
[17:06] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: sorry
[17:06] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,    you probably have some nvidia issues
[17:08] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,    what about the previous  command  ?
[17:08] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: update and upgrade and dist-upgrade results .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754137/
[17:09] <ioria> wth
[17:09] <lafleurdubien> I've recently been having a very irritating issue with the wifi/network manager where my connection drops every 1-30 minutes
[17:09] <lafleurdubien> 10:09 AM <lafleurdubien> Sometimes its so bad the only way to reconnect is to manually stop and restart network manager. And even that only fixes it for a few minutes before it drops again. I'm hoping its fixed with the new version of network manager in 17.10, but I can't install that on 17.04. Any ideas what to do?
[17:10] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   dpkg -l | grep linux-generic
[17:10] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: returns nothing
[17:11] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   sudo apt-get install  linux-generic    (put it in a pastebinit)
[17:11] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: do you have any hwe stacks installed?
[17:11] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: i dont know what it is
[17:12] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: can you pastebin '   dpkg -l | grep "linux.*generic"    '
[17:12] <EriC^^> nevermind, the packages also start with linux-generic , run ioria 's command above please
[17:12] <sohail-ahmed>  EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754164/
[17:13] <ioria> is installed   linux-headers-3.13.0-133-generic , wth
[17:13] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: its runing
[17:13] <EriC^^> good :)
[17:15] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, i really hope you don't have a separate /boot :)
[17:15] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: separate boot
[17:16] <EriC^^> that makes a lot of sense
[17:16] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  meaning a dedicated partition fro the kernel, but might be get full (with all those kernels)
[17:16] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: how can i verify that
[17:17] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: df -h /boot
[17:17] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  df -H
[17:17] <sohail-ahmed> /dev/sdb5       165G   55G  102G  35% /
[17:18] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  so do you have a separate boot ?
[17:18] <EriC^^> nope
[17:18] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i have windows installation
[17:19] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: its a dual disk meaning 2 disks with some slave and master sata
[17:19] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  yeah
[17:19] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   3.13-133 is installed now
[17:19] <ioria> ?
[17:19] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: working
[17:20] <ioria> ok
[17:20] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: thanks for your time may God bless you
[17:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   thanx, you're welcome
[17:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   in the meanwhile ; pkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:22] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,   in the meanwhile ; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:22] <niceprogrammer> is there a easy way to route updating of ubuntu through a proxy
[17:22] <niceprogrammer> ?
[17:23] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754209/
[17:23] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: the installation is complete
[17:23] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  you know ... reboot
[17:24] <ioria> wait
[17:24] <sohail-ahmed> k
[17:24] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sudo update-grub
[17:24] <ioria> then reboot
[17:24] <sohail-ahmed> rebooting
[17:26] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have nvidia prime but it doesn't effect steam, it still uses the intel drivers. this is what i get when i type "sudo prime-select nvidia" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753945/
[17:27] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: uname -r now returns 3.13.0-133-generic
[17:28] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: but i still cant login
[17:28] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  ok,  sudo lshw -c Video
[17:28] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: what does "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" give?
[17:30] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: ioria:  out put for both commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754245/
[17:31] <EriC^^> ioria: install nvidia-340 ?
[17:31] <ioria> EriC^^, maybe, i'd firts like to see if it's ok with nouveau
[17:32] <EriC^^> ok
[17:32] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  can we try this:   sudo apt-get purge nvidia*   (note the *) andd reboot again
[17:38] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: back
[17:39] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  yes
[17:39] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i am back
[17:39] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  yes
[17:39] <alkisg> sohail-ahmed: are you the one that removed xubuntu and installed ubuntu?
[17:40] <sohail-ahmed> yes
[17:40] <ioria> and ?
[17:40] <alkisg> So maybe the problem is in missing or additional packages and not in graphics?
[17:40] <alkisg> You can't login, or you don't see xorg running?
[17:40] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: still unable to login
[17:41] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:41] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:# deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release amd64 (20131016)]/ saucy main multiverse restricted universe
[17:41] <ioria> wow
[17:42] <arunkumar413> Hi friends, any idea on why I'm not able to resize the partition
[17:42] <arunkumar413> https://ibin.co/3e0QWyGq32SJ.png
[17:42] <lafleurdubien> I've recently been having a very irritating issue with the wifi/network manager where my connection drops every 1-30 minutes
[17:42] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:42] <lafleurdubien> Sometimes its so bad the only way to reconnect is to manually stop and restart network manager. And even that only fixes it for a few minutes before it drops again.
[17:43] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: done
[17:43] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[17:43] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: it's currently mounted
[17:44] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: boot a live usb and resize from there
[17:44] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: Error: no composite extension
[17:44] <arunkumar413> EriC, I don't have a live cd
[17:44] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: make one :)
[17:44] <arunkumar413> I'm running the gparted as root but still not able to resize
[17:44] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  ok, maybe we found something
[17:45] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: you can't resize it while it's mounted
[17:45] <arunkumar413> is it because of the mount point: /, /var/lib/docker/aufs
[17:45] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: yes
[17:45] <arunkumar413> EriC, I'm not able to unmount it
[17:46] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  dpkg -l | grep compiz
[17:46] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  and sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:47] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: you can't unmount the root filesystem, that's why i suggested booting a live usb and resizing
[17:47] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754339/ doing the remove
[17:47] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: or if you have another pc that has linux you can use that as a live usb
[17:48] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: rm command returns rm: cannot remove ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf’: No such file or directory
[17:48] <ioria> ok
[17:48] <arunkumar413> EriC, getting this error while trying to unmount: https://imagebin.ca/v/3e0SUjhdvK0q
[17:48] <arunkumar413> https://ibin.co/3e0SUjhdvK0q.png
[17:48] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  unity --version
[17:49] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: unity 7.2.6
[17:49] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: i'm not helping anymore, you're not listening
[17:50] <arunkumar413> EriC I told you I don't have a live cd
[17:50] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have nvidia prime but it doesn't effect steam, it still uses the intel drivers. this is what i get when i type "sudo prime-select nvidia" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753945/
[17:51] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  try to install nvidia drivers
[17:52] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: may be this is help full... i have 4 options to select desktop while logging in.. and they are gnome, gnome-flashback[compiz], gnome-flashback[metacity] and ubuntu. i can only login in through metacity
[17:52] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: how
[17:52] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
[17:55] <arunkumar413> EriC is there an android utility that can ssh into the system and unmount and resize
[17:56] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: no
[17:57] <arunkumar413> EriC through recovery mode?
[18:00] <Cat_BPRM> Ive been asking for upto 3 hours no, can someone help?
[18:00] <sylock> Hello guys. I'm trying 17.10 and it is not booting anymore. Is there any kernel option to pass to grub to force x11? I would like to try.
[18:01] <maddawg2> isnt the firewall on ubuntu 16.04.3 disabled by default?
[18:02] <arunkumar413> sylock: does your system freeze at login screen?
[18:02] <LooCfur> is anyone here from switzerland
[18:02] <maddawg2> i installed openssh server but it seems to be refusing my connection (this is the desktop version)
[18:02] <sylock> arunkumar413: yes it is
[18:02] <maddawg2> LooCfur only my company is
[18:02] <maddawg2> lol
[18:03] <sylock> arunkumar413: I have a GTX 670 and trying to use nouveau
[18:03] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: ask in ##linux they might know how it can be done without rebooting
[18:03] <LooCfur> maddawg2, some guy is telling me a story about how he's being held by a gang in swizterland. Can I paste it to you in PM and see  what you think?
[18:03] <maddawg2> sure pm me
[18:04] <Cat_BPRM> sylock have you tried going into the GRUB menu, highlighting ubuntu, presing E and typing 'acpi=off' at the end of line with quiet splash in
[18:04] <Cat_BPRM> it worked for me
[18:04] <sylock> Cat_BPRM: I didn't I thought it could be because of wayland
[18:04] <EriC^^> that's kind of dangerous, it might disable the fan control of the cpu
[18:05] <Cat_BPRM> it didnt for me, thats only on windows i beleive
[18:05] <arunkumar413> sylock: try these commands: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368748/ubuntu-16-04-gui-freezes-on-login-start-page
[18:05] <sylock> Cat_BPRM: I'm gonna try but before trying, do you know if I can force X11 at kernel option? So if acpi=off doesn't work, I have a second try
[18:05] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have nvidia prime but it doesn't effect steam, it still uses the intel drivers. this is what i get when i type "sudo prime-select nvidia" http://paste.ubuntu.com/25753945/
[18:09] <sylock> arunkumar413: I'm gonna try but have some doubts. It is basically reinstalling xorg and gnome shell?
[18:10] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: should i logout and check is the login working or not now. the nvidia install is complee
[18:10] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  reboot
[18:11] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: ok
[18:17] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i tried to login in to ubuntu but its not working
[18:18] <dgpratt> what's the default desktop environment in 17.10?
[18:19] <leftyfb> dgpratt: /join #ubuntu+1
[18:20] <dgpratt> ah, sorry, didn't realize 17.10 was pre-release
[18:24] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: can you pastebin "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[18:25] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754491/
[18:26] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, no login yet ?
[18:26] <sohail-ahmed>  ioria: yes no login
[18:27] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: do you have the binary "nvidia-xconfig" ?
[18:27] <EriC^^> try "which nvidia-xconfig"
[18:28] <sohail-ahmed> /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[18:28] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: are you sure the cable to your screen is properly connected 100%?
[18:29] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^: yes
[18:29] <EriC^^> ok, try try "sudo nvidia-xconfig --allow-empty-initial-configuration"
[18:30] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754512/
[18:32] <pavlos> maddawg2: do you see sshd running ?
[18:33] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: try "sudo service lightdm restart" and logging back in
[18:41] <nnyby> hi, on ubuntu 16.04, i can start pgbouncer manually but not with systemd. error is: Failed to start LSB: start pgbouncer
[18:42] <Toadisattva> I'm trying to download libsdl1.2debian-esd but I am unable to find that specific version (-esd) ubuntu 16.04 is there a ppa or something where I can find that?
[18:45] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: EriC^^: sudo service lightdm restart was unsuccessful, i get logged out and a black screen appeared wih blinking cursor for some time. then i power off the pc and logged back in. still unable to logged into ubuntu.
[18:45] <oerheks> !find libsdl
[18:46] <EriC^^> sohail-ahmed: can you pastebin "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" again?
[18:48] <ricmm> hey guys, anybody knows when the vivid archive goes offline?
[18:48] <sohail-ahmed> EriC^^:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754615/
[18:48] <oerheks> ricmm, they are offline, only old-releases is the only server that is active
[18:49] <sylock> hello guy. I'm on 17.10 which was not booting. I tried acpi=off as someone advice and it works. I'm with nouveau for a GTX 670. Now I have an ugly resolution. Does some know how to better the situation and test things?
[18:49] <nacc> !ubuntu+1 | sylock
[18:49] <ricmm> oerheks: vivid is still serving on archive.ubuntu.com and ports
[18:50] <nacc> ricmm: it's around for phone, I believe
[18:50] <nacc> ricmm: but not supported here
[18:50] <ricmm> sure, I guess the question needs rephrasing
[18:50] <ricmm> considering phone being unsupported from canonical,do we know when the vivid archive would be ... archived?
[18:51] <nacc> ricmm: why does it matter?
[18:51] <oerheks> ricmm, #ubports should answer that?
[18:53] <nacc> ricmm: or i guess, why does it matter to you, unless you're using 15.04, which is unsupported
[18:56] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, why don't you try nomodeset
[18:57] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: what is it
[18:57] <ioria> !nomodeset
[18:58] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  should i do this as i dont have any of the problem mentioned in the definition.
[18:58] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, not sure will help, but could give some hints.
[18:59] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: ok how should i start
[18:59] <ricmm> nacc: it matters for ubports work
[19:00] <ricmm> I'm after the exact date
[19:00] <ricmm> but I dont know thats known here, no worries
[19:00] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, reboot, press 'e', find the 'linux 'line , where you see  quiet splash , just add nomodeset
[19:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, https://i.stack.imgur.com/BnUQa.png
[19:01] <oerheks> ricmm, again, join #ubports and ask them?
[19:01] <nacc> ricmm: yeah, not an ubuntu question, as you seem to have realized
[19:03] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: thanks for the image... so i will have to press e when on reboot screen. and have to replace 'quiet splash' with nomodeset
[19:03] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:  correct/
[19:03] <ioria> yup
[19:04] <ricmm> nacc: how is that not an ubuntu question? well - maybe its a canonical question
[19:05] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, i'am going to think your card does not support unity
[19:05] <ricmm> as someone made the decision to keep vivid alive in the ubuntu archive, im only after the "until when" part of it
[19:06] <oerheks> ricmm, you know who can answer that..
[19:07] <nacc> ricmm: this is the ubuntu support channel. afaik, nothing of what you're asking about it is actively supported any longer.
[19:07] <nacc> ricmm: and as oerheks has said a few times, I think you want ubports, not ubuntu
[19:08] <ricmm> cheers
[19:09] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: still unable to logged in
[19:10] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  can you try the guest account ?
[19:11] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: its not enabled... since i cant see it in the options... how to enable to
[19:11] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  'am wondering why it's not enabled
[19:12] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: is it not normal
[19:12] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, nope
[19:14] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, did you install xinerama ?
[19:15] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i dont remember.. which xinerama returns nothing
[19:17] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, what's your cpu ?
[19:18] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: you mean the model
[19:18] <ioria> yes, grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo
[19:19] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754769/
[19:21] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, dmesg | grep kernel
[19:22] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754807/
[19:23] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, sy,   dmesg | grep Kernel
[19:24] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754826/
[19:24] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, you removed quiet splash ...
[19:25] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes
[19:25] <ioria> ok
[19:26] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  can you run again   /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[19:26] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: Error: no composite extension
[19:29] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:30] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754862/
[19:35] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  i'am still thinking it's a compiz issue
[19:35] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: how should i check
[19:38] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  cat  ~/x.session-errors
[19:38] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  cat  ~/xsession-errors
[19:39] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  cat  ~/.xsession-errors
[19:40] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754898/
[19:41] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  do you have custom startup scripts   ?
[19:42] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  ls .config/autostart/
[19:42] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: no
[19:43] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: dropbox.desktop  megasync.desktop
[19:43] <ioria> you have
[19:44] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall  compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins libcompizconfig0  compiz-plugins-default
[19:47] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: done
[19:48] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[19:49] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: done
[19:49] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  reboot
[19:52] <codepython777> One of my usb devices has stopped showing up in dmesg/lsusb - it still works - any ideas what might be happening? (Its a FTDI device - which I have a udev rule for)
[19:53] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: still unable to logged in
[19:55] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  add this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25754949/   at the end of  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:56] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  then logout / login
[19:58] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss it worked.
[19:58] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  alundulillah
[19:59] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: is it a permanet solution
[19:59] <kur1j> Is it possible to explicitly add a specific package from a PPA? https://launchpad.net/~freecad-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/freecad-stable/+packages
[20:00] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  yes, but maybe you shold think about a fresh xenial (16.04) install
[20:00] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: meaning do i need to do some thing to make it permant
[20:00] <kur1j> for example I need freecad- 1:0.16.670-1ppa2-ubuntu16.10.1
[20:00] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  nope, it's written in xorg.conf
[20:00] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: by fresh you mean getting rid of present installation and then install newest vresion
[20:01] <kostkon> kur1j, what are you trying to do exactly
[20:01] <nacc> kur1j: you are on 16.10?
[20:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  if you want ....
[20:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  not needed until 2019
[20:01] <kostkon> kur1j, you can manually download the package from that page
[20:01] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: so doing dist-upgrade may pose some problems
[20:01] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  nope
[20:02] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: would doing dist-upgrade be a still called 'fresh' installation
[20:03] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  no,  do-relase-upgrade is... but i always suggest a fresh (new) install
[20:03] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: i am sorry but what is fresh install
[20:04] <kur1j> on 16.04
[20:04] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  when you download an iso from the ubuntu website, burn it on a media (like usb) and boot it in order to install it
[20:05] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, meaning : reinstall  or a new install
[20:05] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: ok does doing this require you to format your existing partition
[20:06] <nacc> kur1j: why do you not want the latest version in that PPA?
[20:06] <ioria> sohail-ahmed,  yes, you 'll erase your disk (will loose your data unless you have previously copied)
[20:07] <kostkon> kur1j, there is a freecad snap with the latest version.   sudo snap install freecad    and you are set
[20:07] <kostkon> kur1j, forget about the ppa
[20:08] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, the practice is to have back-ups (your data saved on a different media) , so you can easily reinstall the os
[20:09] <sohail-ahmed> ioria:sorry to ask this.. are there better ways to keep data other than usb drive
[20:09] <B105PH3RE> ok so I have pulseaduio raop module but when I connec to speaker output it doesn't connect... I had a command before to run and would fix it and it would show speaker with the port also... any ideas...
[20:09] <B105PH3RE> its an airplay speaker
[20:09] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, sure, on a different(separated)  /home partition
[20:11] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, but you can also use a random (separated) partition
[20:11] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: yes like they do on windows... c;\ for os and other drive for data
[20:11] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, yes, something like that
[20:12] <ioria> sohail-ahmed, sy, have to go, come back if you have problems
[20:12] <sohail-ahmed> ioria: thank you very much for your time and brainstroming
[20:13] <kur1j> nacc: because i get this error messsage. freecad-dev : Depends: freecad (= 1:0.16.6707-1ppa2~ubuntu16.04.1) but 1:0.16.6712-1ppa3~ubuntu16.04.1 is to be installed
[20:13] <kur1j> so i think the ppa is messed up and pulling the wrong dependencies
[20:13] <nacc> kur1j: where did you get freecad-dev from?
[20:13] <kur1j> its in the PPA
[20:14] <kur1j> http://ppa.launchpad.net/freecad-maintainers/freecad-stable/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freecad/
[20:14] <nacc> kur1j: https://launchpad.net/~freecad-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/freecad-stable does ot show it
[20:14] <nacc> kur1j: manually downloading a deb does not mean it is meant to be installed
[20:14] <nacc> kur1j: i feel like you know this, or you wouldn't be doign it.
[20:15] <kur1j> nacc: Its the issue that the PPA references the wrong freecad-dev package
[20:16] <nacc> kur1j: there is non freecad-dev package available in the PPA
[20:16] <nacc> kur1j: you went and downloaded something manually from a URL
[20:16] <nacc> kur1j: also, PPAs are not supported here, contact the PPA owner
[20:18] <kur1j> nacc: no I didn't download anything outside of the ppa. I just downloaded the ppa installed it, ran apt-get install freecad and it installed  1:0.16.6712-1ppa3~ubuntu16.04.1 freecad. I then apt-get install freecad-dev and it gives me the error looking for the wrong version
[20:18] <kur1j> so I assumed that the ppa was messed up
[20:18] <kur1j> aight ill take it up with them
[20:31] <ChunkzZ> !isitoutyet
[20:31] <latemus> I'm sorry I spammed you guys months ago
[20:31] <latemus> I's wrong to
[20:35] <Cryptofun> is there a nice appz to transfer music to iphone on ubuntu?
[20:37] <oerheks> some mediaplayers do give a plugin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[20:37] <oerheks> never tried myself
[20:37] <lordcirth_work> However, Apple issues "security" patches whenever anyone gets that working well
[20:39] <oerheks> or this post, read it all through, https://askubuntu.com/questions/812006/how-can-i-mount-my-iphone-6s-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:40] <nopea> Hi guys, I just did an apt-get install mysql-client5.7 and since then I cannot run mysql commands with out an error.  And I am unable to restart the mysql service - just keeps saying it is not found (but my website still runs ok)
[20:43] <lordcirth_work> nopea, what did you have previously? 5.5?
[20:44] <nopea> lordcirth_work: not 100% sure... let me see what WordPress says...
[20:45] <nopea> lordcirth_work: 5.7.19 is what WooCommerce is showing
[20:45] <Kanov> has been the WIFI bug been patched for ubuntu or what
[20:45] <kostkon> Kanov, yes
[20:45] <Kanov> kostkon, has it been made available
[20:46] <kostkon> Kanov, yes. https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3455-1/
[20:46] <Kanov> kostkon: if I were to run an apt dist-upgrade at this moment, i shall be forever secure from this bug?
[20:46] <kostkon> Kanov, check for updates, yes
[20:46] <Kanov> very good
[20:46] <Kanov> thanks!
[20:46] <kostkon> Kanov, don't forget to reboot
[20:46] <Kanov> ofcourse im not that much of a beginner
[20:48] <nopea> lordcirth_work: mysql -V gives me mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.7.19, for Linux (x86_64) using  EditLine wrapper
[20:49] <nacc> nopea: what version of ubuntu is this (lsb_release -sd)
[20:50] <nacc> nopea: and maybe pastebin the tail of /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:52] <macksfield> I'm having an issue where if I plug in my headphones, it shows my speakers are unplugged, and to get the speakers to play/show up in sound settings, I need to unplug my headphones.
[20:52] <macksfield> anyone know how I can have Line-Out showing AND headphones in sound settings?
[20:52] <nopea> nacc: 16.04 LTS
[20:52] <macksfield> would rather not have to be plugging things in and out just to change sound output
[20:52] <lordcirth_work> nopea, 16.04.3?
[20:53] <nopea> lordcirth_work: sorry, I am new to Ubuntu... how can I check that?
[20:53] <lordcirth_work> nopea, the command just mentioned, lsb_release -sd .  On my system it prints 'Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS'
[20:53] <nicomachus> nopea: in terminal: lsb_release -a
[20:54] <nopea> 16.04.1
[20:54] <lordcirth_work> nopea, so you haven't done updates in months?
[20:54] <nopea> log file https://pastebin.com/nX38GYL5
[20:54] <lordcirth_work> Installing new software while behind on updates can cause problems due to version mismatches
[20:54] <Cryptofun> thx oerherks n others appreciated
[20:54] <Cryptofun> mate
[20:55] <nopea> lordcirth_work: I didn't want to on our live server just in case LOL - but maybe I should have
[20:55] <nacc> nopea: what does `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade` report (
[20:55] <lordcirth_work> nopea, then test it on your dev server first - and running a prod server without security patches is a very bad idea.
[20:55] <nopea> lsb_release -sd only gives me Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[20:56] <nacc> nopea: the -s will only simulate the dist-upgrade, but will provide a pastebin-able output of all packages it would have upgraded
[20:56] <nopea> lordcirth_work: thanks... but for now I have to solve the mysql issue
[20:56] <nacc> nopea: my initial guess is what lordcirth_work said, you have just istnalled a mysql-client package that is not compatible with mysql-server package on the same server
[20:56] <lordcirth_work> nopea, the mysql issue may be *caused* by the lack of updates.  A recent version of mysql-client and an old version of server.
[20:56] <nacc> seems totally expected, if the server is not updated
[20:57] <nacc> jinx lordcirth_work :)
[20:57] <nacc> (in essence)
[20:57] <nacc> nopea: the prior requested pastebin (from dist-upgrade with -s) will help show how out of date you are. You can also provide `apt-cache policy mysql-server`
[20:57] <nopea> no mysql service is listed when I run service --status-all
[20:57] <nacc> service is the wrong command to use on 16.04, anyways
[20:58] <nopea> systemctl does not work wither
[20:58] <nacc> nopea: please provide the two pastebins, so we can see the system state
[20:59] <nopea> nacc: sorry - what other pastebin can I provide?
[21:00] <nacc> nopea: i've asked for two -- the result of apt-get update; apt-get -s dist-upgrade (with sudo). and the result of apt-cache policy mysql-server
[21:01] <nopea> nacc - sorry, I just ran those commands, where can I find the output?
[21:01] <nopea> that I can paste
[21:01] <nacc> nopea: well, if you ran those comands, they produced output
[21:02] <nopea> nacc: https://pastebin.com/dqHKnnns
[21:03] <nacc> nopea: right, so you're pretty far out of date (134 packages need upgrading)
[21:03] <blkadder> Hi, I am building my own internal deb packages and have a question: If I create a dependency for a package on another package, is that package fully installed before the one requiring the dependency is? Assuming the answer is yes, just looking to make sure.
[21:03] <nacc> nopea: and the policy output?
[21:03] <nopea> which command should I run for that?
[21:04] <nacc> nopea: `apt-cache policy mysql-server`
[21:04] <nopea> nacc: https://pastebin.com/6VQttGuu
[21:05] <nopea> nacc: if not installed how is my site still running?
[21:05] <nacc> nopea: i don't know, maybe you built mysql from source?
[21:06] <nacc> nopea: also you have a nonstandard repository
[21:06] <nopea> I cannot recall - this is a Rackspace cloud server I setup a while ago
[21:07] <nopea> nacc: I used a Rackspace Ubuntu image when I set up the server, so I am guessing they have configured it diff.
[21:07] <nacc> blkadder: technically "depends" only means that it is available to use at runtime by the installed package. I'm not sure you can rely on finished insntallation of the dependencies. Nor should it generally matter?
[21:08] <nacc> blkadder: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html#s-depends
[21:08] <blkadder> Hrmm...
[21:08] <blkadder> Well it seemed to work but that is concerning.
[21:08] <nopea> should I try to reinstall the mysql server again?
[21:08] <nacc> blkadder: I mean, it's possible that it does work, but I'm not sure it's policy that it has to be so ordered
[21:08] <blkadder> nacc: Understood.
[21:08] <nacc> blkadder: A depends on B. What does A need from B at install-time?
[21:09] <blkadder> In this case package a installs into a directory and creates a symlink to the install. Package B relies on that symlink being present to write another file into it.
[21:10] <nacc> blkadder: I assume you mean A relies on it?
[21:10] <nacc> blkadder: (given my dependency phrase)
[21:10] <blkadder> No.
[21:10] <nacc> blkadder: A depends on B, and B relies on a symlinkn from A?
[21:10] <blkadder> B relies on a symlink created by A being present
[21:10] <nacc> blkadder: then B should depend on A, not A o nB.
[21:11] <nacc> blkadder: I wrote "A depends on B"
[21:11] <blkadder> I set it up so B relies on A.
[21:11] <blkadder> And that fixed my issue.
[21:12] <blkadder> I am concerned though that this might not be entirely deterministic.
[21:12] <blkadder> Will take a look at the link, thanks.
[21:12] <nacc> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_package_dependencies
[21:12] <nacc> might also be relevant
[21:12] <nacc> blkadder: you might need a pre-depends
[21:12] <blkadder> Ahh, perfect.
[21:12] <blkadder> Thanks.
[21:12] <blkadder> Yes I see.
[21:13] <nacc> although pre-depends are pretty rare and probably mean something wrong in your srcpkg :)
[21:13] <nacc> (organizationally)
[21:13] <nacc> nopea: well, i wouldn't suggest installing mysql-server if it's not already installed
[21:13] <nacc> nopea: tbh, if this is a rackspace image, you should be talking to rackspace, I think
[21:14] <nacc> nopea: coudl you also pastebin `apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.7` ?
[21:14] <blkadder> nacc: Well the whole thing is currently a mess and I am trying to undwind the mess and get into system packaging, so you are no doubt correct. crawl->walk->run. ;-)
[21:15] <nacc> blkadder: yep :)
[21:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> hi. what does the 'install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager' actually do?
[21:16] <nopea> nacc: sure - sorry I had stepped away for a sec.  And I agree that I should talk to Rackspace.
[21:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> it doesn't seem to have installed grub where i expected it to.
[21:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, at least, i'm still left with windows boot manager booting me to windows after post.
[21:17] <nopea> nacc: https://pastebin.com/qt9KyqVp
[21:18] <nacc> nopea: hrm, yeah, can you do `ps aux | grep mysqld`, pastebin that -- or look for hte binary that is actually running and then do a `dpkg -S <binary>` to see what package it comes from?
[21:19] <nopea> nacc: https://pastebin.com/pBSVgpFk
[21:19] <nacc> nopea: yeah, so i'm not sure you are running mysql then ( you could also run `ps aux | grep mysql`, i guess)
[21:20] <nacc> nopea: but yeah, the way that istance is setup, it's the rackspace cloud archive + ubuntu security, which basically makes it a rackspace product
[21:20] <nopea> yeah when I run dpkg -S mysqld it says that the client only is running
[21:20] <nacc> it's possible they are fully in sync, but it's hard to say
[21:20] <nacc> nopea: so what makes you think mysql server is isntalled?
[21:20] <nopea> nacc: I appreciate the time you have taken, I think I should see what Rackspace says
[21:21] <nacc> nopea: seems reasonable, and np
[21:21] <nopea> nacc: well my WordPress site is still running... and I assumed that the server would have to be installed for that
[21:22] <nacc> nopea: you are hosting your wordpress site (note that is highly likely to be insecure too :)
[21:22] <nopea> oh man!!!!!!
[21:22] <nacc> nopea: that was meant to be a question, sorry
[21:22] <nopea> nacc: I am soooooo sorry... I just realized that this system was setup differently than the dev machine.
[21:22] <nacc> nopea: :)
[21:22] <nopea> The mysql server is on another machine... oh man do I need sleep or more coffee
[21:23] <Bashing-om> NoImNotNineVolt: A lot of dependent factprs . Win - EFI ? intall mode to match Win ? install method where the default grub placement is sda ?
[21:23] <nacc> nopea: iirc, wordpress itself only relies on the client being available locally. Yeah, the server can be anywhere (and most put it somewhere else)
[21:24] <nopea> nacc: yeah, I just had a brain fart there... I have mysql server on another machine and WordPress is connected to it.  I am sorry to have been a pain LOL
[21:24] <nacc> nopea: np
[21:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> Bashing-om: nevermind, turns out i can't even disable secureboot on this thing. switching to legacy bios and trying again.
[21:27] <Bashing-om> NoImNotNineVolt: Bear in mind IF single disk and Win is EFI .. then ubuntu install must also be in EFI mode .
[21:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm assuming that's what it did. it gave me a secureboot password.
[21:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i'm never prompted for it after rebooting.
[21:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, rather, it asked me to set a secureboot password, and told me i'd be prompted for it on next boot. that never happened.
[21:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> win10's bootloader took over.
[21:29] <Bashing-om> NoImNotNineVolt: Wont hurt tp disable secure boot , but the ubuntu image is now signed .
[21:32] <nicomachus> hi, I'm getting a crash every time I try to start the program "mpdscribble". Here's the crash report: https://i.imgur.com/FEbxq7r.png
[21:32] <nicomachus> not sure where to find more verbose logs...
[21:33] <nicomachus> any clue what's actually causing the crash?
[21:33] <nacc> that's a SIGTRAP
[21:33] <nacc> nicomachus: anything in dmesg?
[21:33] <nacc> nicomachus: did it generate a core dump? you can run it in gdb if so
[21:34] <nicomachus> nacc: this is the only thing I see in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25755420/
[21:35] <nicomachus> not sure about the core dump... I closed the window and now it's not crashing like it was (even though I made 0 changes, go figure)
[21:36] <nacc> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776306
[21:36] <nacc> maybe related?
[21:36] <nacc> dunno, lots of hits on google
[21:37] <nicomachus> lemme try commenting out the pid file creation line in the .conf and see if that works.
[21:38] <nicomachus> nacc: well, no error when I started it after commenting out that line, so let's see if it scrobbles correctly.
[21:40] <nicomachus> nothing in the cached journal. :/
[21:41] <nicomachus> and no scrobbles.
[21:42] <nicomachus> ah. well I'll work on it tomorrow. time to shut down for the day. Thanks nacc, maybe I'll work it out later.
[21:46] <dinomode> hi guys I installed znc on Ubuntu 16.04 using "apt install znc" but systemctl doesn't find it
[21:46] <dinomode> I want to run "systemctl enable znc.service"
[21:46] <nacc> dinomode: maybe it doesn't shipa  systemd unit?
[21:47] <dinomode> right.. so I should use a cronjob?
[21:48] <nacc> dinomode: for what?
[21:48] <dinomode> start znc on reboot :)
[21:49] <nacc> dinomode: i don't konw, seems like you could, sure
[21:49] <dinomode> :)
[21:50] <oerheks> did you use sudo ? sudo systemctl enable znc.service
[21:51] <dinomode> systemctl can't find it :D
[21:51] <dinomode> ill just use a cronjob thanks guys
[21:54] <patarr> Does apt-get install packages in the order speciifed on the CLI?
[21:55] <oerheks> patarr, yes.
[21:56] <nacc> oerheks: does it really respect order?
[21:56] <nacc> oerheks: i guess i wouldn't rely on that if you care (but also why do you care, patarr ?)
[21:57] <mistik1> It would respect the order if that does not conflict with dependency tracking
[21:58] <nacc> yeah
[21:58] <nacc> I can see it doing that
[21:58] <nacc> but like I was saying for somethign else earlier, that seems like an implementation detail
[21:58] <nacc> it might be true right now, but I don't think it's a 'policy' to rely on
[21:58] <oerheks> I think it does, dependencies are key ofcourse
[21:59] <mistik1> nacc: Indeed
[21:59] <nacc> if you need to install A, then B, use `sudo apt-get install A; sudo apt-get install B`
[21:59] <nacc> but I'm failing to see why that would be necessary in most cases
[22:05] <CarlFK> how do I edit the command that launcher buttons execute?  like I want to add --disable-prompt-on-repost to chrome
[22:19] <pavlos> CarlFK: try "gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/chrome.desktop", there is an Exec=
[22:27] <CarlFK> pavlos: thanks
[22:28] <ArMedic> I had windows 10 on this laptop.  Wi-Fi connection speed was around 30Mbps...my phone that is currently connected to to the Wi-Fi is 27Mbps....Ubuntu I am at around 5Mbps most of the time...I have tried some fixes I have read on the internet. None have worked.  Any help to speed this up?
[22:31] <nicomachus> nacc: mpdscribble just crashed on boot and I have the error log up again. It says CoreDump is just binary data
[22:31] <nicomachus> nacc: and that's with the pid stuff commented out, so it's not that bug.
[22:32] <nacc> nicomachus: strange
[22:33] <nacc> nicomachus: there are others that mention traps (in cursory googling). Sounds like a bug in the program. You could run it in gdb and see if you can see where it is crashing
[22:34] <hoe`> Hi, what's the Windows Subsystem for Linux channel?
[22:34] <Sleaker> hoe`: ##windows-wsl
[22:35] <hoe`> ah bummer, seems dead.
[22:35] <nacc> !alis | hoe`: for future reference
[22:35] <hoe`> thank you.
[22:35] <nacc> !ubuwin | hoe`: may be more active, not sure if it's the same
[22:36] <hoe`> I'll give them a try.
[22:36] <Sleaker> ubottu: pretty sure it's not beta anymore.
[22:37] <jas> ArMedic what kind of wifi hardware?
[22:37] <nacc> Sleaker: i think you can submit a fix to the faq, if you want
[22:37] <Sleaker> ah bott has old definition in it's list still
[22:37]  * Sleaker shrugs.
[22:38] <Sleaker> and yah that other channel is mostly empty too haha
[22:38] <jas> oh ok
[22:38] <nicomachus> nacc: gdb?
[22:38] <Sleaker> hoe`: honestly probably fine to just ask a generic question in here or in #linux depending on what the question is.
[22:39] <Sleaker> if it's specific to WSL then it might be different, but otherwise probably fine.
[22:39] <hoe`> this is a very WSL question, hehe.
[22:39] <nacc> nicomachus: gnu debugger
[22:43] <nacc> nicomachus: anything in the stacktrace?
[22:45] <nicomachus> nacc: reading up on gdb. never used it before. just a mo
[22:54] <dax> Sleaker: apologies if someone addressed this while I was gone, but WSL is still Beta in Creators Update. I'm unsure about FCU, but FCU isn't out yet anyway.
[22:54] <Sleaker> it is?
[22:54] <dax> yes, I'm sitting at a Creators Update computer in Windows Features looking at the "Windows Subsystem for Linux (Beta)" line ;)
[22:54] <Sleaker> ah yah it shows beta still in the features list
[22:55] <Sleaker> although it looks like it's not just ubuntu anymore.
[22:55] <dax> and yes, #ubuntu-on-windows is quiet. not a lot of people use WSL compared to regular Ubuntu, and a lot of them are more the github/twitter/etc. type
[22:55] <dax> correct
[22:55] <Sleaker> they got openSUSE SUSELE and Ubuntu flavors now
[22:55] <dax> there's been discussion about closing or moving the IRC channel, but I don't think it went anywhere
[22:55] <nicomachus> There's probably a gitter chat somewhere
[22:56] <dax> it's an Ubuntu IRC Team channel, not a Canonical/Microsoft one, so very best-effort and pseudo-official
[22:57] <dax> hrm, maybe not even IRC Team, I think it's just some random #ubuntu-* channel I transferred to the IRC Council
[22:57] <nicomachus> leave it to dax to go meta-irc
[22:57] <dax> yeah, i'm bad about that :s
[22:57] <nicomachus> :D
[23:02] <dax> Sleaker: oh hey, turns out WSL is leaving beta in fall creators update. so i will fix ubottu tomorrow :P
[23:02] <Sleaker> sounds good.
[23:10] <RickJohn57> quit
[23:27] <quirkyQt`> hi :)
[23:31] <StickyNipples> anyone here use thinkpads?
[23:34] <oerheks> Ask your real question and find out?
[23:36] <StickyNipples> oh, duh... Theres some sort of docking connection and wondering what its for and if it works with Linux
[23:36] <nicomachus> StickyNipples.... what?
[23:36] <nicomachus> A dedicated Linux hardware port?
[23:37] <nicomachus> oh I read that wrong.
[23:38] <StickyNipples> sorry, I am trying to think of how to ask my question. Its like english is a second language when speaking to other people
[23:38] <oerheks> a dock is just a port replicator, for vga, usb and networking, without specs i cannot tell anything about it, if it works.. knowing thinkpad it could well be
[23:38] <kostkon> StickyNipples, you mean you've got a dock for it
[23:39] <oerheks> i think he wonders what that port underneat his thinkpad does
[23:39] <StickyNipples> Well I want to know if the dock would even be usable, are drivers necessary?
[23:39] <oerheks> https://www.laptopshop.nl/product/733885/lenovo-thinkpad-workstation-dock.html
[23:40] <oerheks> no drivers needed, afaik
[23:41] <StickyNipples> neat
[23:41] <StickyNipples> what about the fingerpringt scanners? do they work in linux? does linux even unlock with fingerprints?
[23:42] <oerheks> yes, there is a list of working models https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[23:43] <oerheks> lsusb or lspci would tell the 8 digit hex number
[23:44] <StickyNipples> oooooooh I cant wait to get a T470 and put Neon on there! :D
[23:45] <oerheks> :-)
[23:46] <StickyNipples> I was nervous before but now Im excited!
[23:46] <StickyNipples> thanks for the help!!!! :D
[23:46] <oerheks> yw
[23:59] <MInor723> How can I get ubuntu to show me the menu bar in qbittorrent? I need it so i can enable rss manager