=== EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === bob is now known as Guest34671 [06:52] ok, so I tried googling this for a bit, couldn't find anything, so maybe someone here can help me [06:53] when the headphones are plugged in, I get sound both from speakers and from the headphones [06:53] I can go to alsamixer, and manually turn down the "front" sound to zero, and that works [06:54] but it doesn't work automatically, despite the "auto-mute mod" option being enabled [06:54] and the multimedia keys on the keyboard are tied to speakers no matter what [06:55] kubuntu 17.04, new pc, new install, it's been like that from the start === cagrover is now known as titanium === titanium is now known as redbrass === martin__ is now known as webaaz [07:12] anqxyr: has this worked with a different OS at some point? [07:12] there's a hardware switch that is supposed to trigger this, so I am thinking if that is simply... not working [07:13] it's never worked on this pc. It's a used pc too, I just recently bought it [07:14] *never worked for me [07:15] anqxyr: Do you have a different pair of headphones to test with? [07:15] yup, let me try [07:16] yeah, no change [07:17] if it's a hardware issue, just having a script that would adjust the volumes and binding it to a hotkey would work for me [07:17] but alsamixer doesn't have any args to directly adjust the volume, that I could tell [07:17] It could also be a matter of needing to supply module options for snd-hda-intel [07:17] where should I look for for something like that? [07:17] which is what I assume you have [07:17] What is the model of the laptop (?) ? [07:18] And if you could !paste the output of "lspci" [07:18] it's a desktop pc, assembled from used parts from all over the place [07:18] right [07:18] still, it has some chipset :) [07:19] https://pastebin.com/SgjWPZTJ [07:20] anqxyr: could you run it with "lspci -nv" instead? [07:20] sure thing [07:21] https://pastebin.com/rRmZngAw [07:21] uh, should probably rerun this as root? looking at all these access denied [07:22] https://pastebin.com/9vyxdnab [07:24] anqxyr: interesting, googling "8086:1c20 snd_hda_intel" gives as first hit http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-November/083932.html [07:24] lets see what we can make of this [07:31] anqxyr: long shot but... uh you could try "echo "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" |sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf" [07:32] anqxyr: and then reboot, see if that automatigically solves it. otherwise remove the file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf so it doesnt mess with anything else [07:33] k, let me reboot [07:34] nah, no luck [07:35] could be a different model option that works tho, but it's harder since this is a frankenbuild [07:35] is there any pure-cli volume control utility? I'd be ok with just hotkeying a script to fix the volumes [07:36] ok, google tells me that the answer is amixer [07:37] anqxyr: that's for pure alsa, but you have by default pulseaudio [07:37] I'll probably go looking in that direction, it seems like it's the one most likely to bear fruit [07:37] which alsa goes through [07:37] so you can use pactl for that [07:38] thanks, I'll try that too. Idk if that'll work, alsamixer is the only thing that managed to adjust volumes independently so far [07:38] kubuntu's gui volume control thing uses pulseaudio, I think, and it's completely blind to headphones [07:40] either way, huge thanks for all your help [07:52] there is a snap, pulsemixer ... [07:52] but if one hits F2 and changes back to F1 output, you get the help page [07:52] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-pulsemixer/2214 [08:12] Debian #876254 [08:12] Debian bug 876254 in wnpp "ITP: pulsemixer -- command-line mixer for PulseAudio with a curses interface" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/876254 [08:13] Hello I can't see the thumnailers in dolphin. In preferences it's activated and I Don't know What I can make, === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [09:51] is there an update command you can do from terminal in kubuntu to get all updates or do you need to click on the updates icon? I see an update but I cannot do it from the Updates Discover [09:52] ForceRecon: sudo apt full-upgrade [09:53] should you do a sudo apt-get update first or sudo apt-get update && full-upgrade? [09:53] or to refresh the repos 1st 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade' [09:54] okeedo [09:56] when will 17.10 be available for download with non free and firmware so that I can once again see if it will work on 3 monitors? [09:56] and when it is, where can I download it from since those seem to be off the beaten path [10:06] !artful [10:06] Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [10:06] ForceRecon: What nonfree driver do you require? nvidia? === karab666 is now known as karab44 [10:09] good question.. not sure with my setup what exactly I am missing but generally if I try and install things that are just downloads from the main websites for distro, they tend not to work. I usually don't get any video or the machine just does not boot to anything past the grub option chosen.. so I would gather it is nvidia [10:09] might be bluetooth too.. [10:09] chances are there are a couple more items in there that I have no clue about [10:11] ForceRecon: do you currently have Kubuntu installed? [10:11] currently I run kubuntu in a vmware session and it is perfect.. just wish it would work that way outside of the vmware guest os session [10:11] Right [10:11] If you have nvidia hardware, the binary blob will never be distributed on the installation media, and you'll need to use the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter to get a display going [10:12] on a side note anyone here running steam on kubuntu.. I do play one game linux port and would like to make sure after getting kubuntu to work that that works as well. [10:12] Then you can install, and have the installer grab restricted drivers as needed during runtime [10:12] ForceRecon: I have over 300 games for linux in my Steam library [10:13] hateball: is there some place i can read on that.. problem is that once I start the installation and something goes wrong I have no way to ask for help since machine is not running [10:13] !nomodeset | ForceRecon [10:13] ForceRecon: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [10:13] awesome thanks! [10:14] basically you boot to live-grub, press... uh... F6? to edit the bootline, append nomodeset to it [10:19] just read that all.. seems easy enough.. [10:19] thanks [10:20] I guess I need to wait till the 27th though to get my hands on a dvd [10:20] damn now I want to try! lol [10:21] Well that's up to you, you can download a nightly ISO right now [10:21] Tho it's not officially supported until it is officially released [10:22] Ill gladly take a link if you can get one.. I was looking online for nightly iso kubuntu but did not find anything [10:23] ForceRecon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [10:23] Again, this is not supported here tho, #ubuntu+1 for that until official release [10:25] you got it.. thanks! [10:49] is there a decent backup software for linux that backs up to a zip file or a location where you can see the full directory structure real time? [10:49] maybe some type of complete sync to a folder on a server on your local lan? [10:50] ForceRecon: for user data or your entire system? [10:50] I would prefer to just backup the entire system if possible so I don't miss anything [10:51] I never really cared for images because then to open them you have to install the software and yada yada.. [10:51] I just want a complete sync of the entire system to a folder [10:51] that would be great [10:52] this simple backup looks okay [10:52] And you want this to be an online-backup? [10:53] well.. local lan server with 6TB of space.. this way when I install kubuntu I will just map to that share and be able to see all my data.. pick what I want to bring back [10:53] We use UrBackup here at work, for backup of physical machines [10:54] can you see the folder structure? or do you need to do something special to uncompress it and then see it once its backed up [10:55] ForceRecon: You can restore individual files etc. However it is not in *Ubuntu repos and as such not supported here [10:56] !info bacula [10:57] bacula (source: bacula): network backup service - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.4.4+dfsg-5 (zesty), package size 1 kB, installed size 6 kB [10:57] ill do some research and then if I find something check to see if there is a irc channel just in case I need support.. thanks! Appreciate the information [10:57] !info rdiff-backup [10:57] rdiff-backup (source: rdiff-backup): remote incremental backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8-7 (zesty), package size 171 kB, installed size 634 kB [10:57] I used to use that before I started using ZFS [10:59] fwbackups looks promising [11:12] test' === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [12:09] Hi. I'm not sure if this is a problem directly related to Kubuntu... I installed the "ScreenSaver" app from within "Discover". However, when I try to configure it, in the main section of the window (where the graphical effects should be sampled, there's only a message saying "Not Installed". That seems to happen with every selectable screensaver-effect. Any ideas what the problem could be? [12:10] Good afternoon [12:10] Hey folks [12:19] Okay, I got it working now. However there's another problem. The GLSlideshow-screensaver doesn't change images. It looks as if it does some effect to switch images, but it's always the same image that is displayed. [12:20] IIRC you needed to set a source dir somewhere else for that. [12:20] If it is part of xscreensaver there was some xscreensaver-setup utility. (Can't remember the exact naming) [12:22] lordievader: I did that. The Slideshow choses one of the images from the folder randomly, but never changes to another image, always displaying the one chosen initially. [12:23] Oh, err. There are no interval settings? [12:23] lordievader: There is indeed a setup-window where on can chose the path and set some parameters. This part works, as it takes an image from the folder I chose. [12:23] lordievader: There are, and the interval itself seems to work. There is some effect that suggest that another image will be displayed, but the image never really changes. [12:24] when I install kubuntu on a drive that is encrypted will the installer just wipe out the drive and reencrypt it or do you need to do something special before hand [12:25] Hmm, then I don't really know. What you could do is try to launch the screensaver manually in a Konsole, that might throw some error. [12:25] Mrokii: ^ [12:25] lordievader: It seems to do some fading-effect every few seconds but the image never changes. [12:25] lordievader: Yeah, I guess I'll try that. [12:25] ForceRecon: It will do whatever you tell it to do. [12:26] just was not sure if the drive would tell you.. hey no space for you here I am already encrypted and now you are stuck with me.. :) lol.. pre dive measures [12:28] Most OS'es nowaday tell you if something is in use or not. [12:29] do you guys actually partition your drives any special way? I just usually do the entire disk and let the OS decide on a swap, home, os partition.. Is there ultimately a better way of doing it? [12:30] For me it depends on the machine, but I usually make a full lvm pv or pv+luks partition of the drive. [12:30] Then i make partitions as I see fit. [12:48] 46k of 84k files completed.. moving along nicely [12:48] wireless ac works well in debian.. hows it doing in kubuntu? good throughput [12:48] Mrokii, seems you may need to add each image to the slideshow in desktop settings, not the folder [12:49] BluesKaj: I'll try that, thanks. [12:49] Morning BluesKaj, thanks for turning me onto Kubuntu, really enjoying it.. [12:51] BluesKaj: I don't think that's possibly. The settings-window only lets me chose folders, not individual files. [12:51] ForceRecon: I use an Intel 7260 AC card in my desktop, it's flawless [12:52] 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03) [12:52] ForceRecon: apart from a tiny bug in the intel firmware that causes dropped packets when network-manager checks for better APs for roaming [12:52] Mrokii, yes I see now , never tried the slideshow before, so I'm checking it out to see if it works here [12:52] so... that may or may not be a problem for you [12:52] Mrokii, and it it's working [12:53] BluesKaj: That's really weird. It doesn't work here and it wasn't working on a friends' Kubuntu either. The same effect on both systems. === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [12:55] Mrokii, well i'm testing Kubuntu Artful 17.10, if you upgrade yor release after it's available officially that will probly fix it, ...kind of drastic but I can't recreate the bug [12:56] BluesKaj: That's a bit drastic indeed. But I'm probably upgrading anyway, when it's available. [12:56] I'm still on 17.04 [12:57] it should be available this thursday [12:59] Hi ForceRecon glad to hear you like Kubuntu ...been using it for 12 yrs...tried lots of other OSs, but this is my "home" :-) [13:01] yeah I have been working on debian for what about 7 months now.. I think.. testing quite a few on vmware and really settled on kubuntu as well.. [13:03] I just hope after thursday that I can get all 3 screens working [13:03] debian is nice and I like it a lot, but their support chat has soem idiotic rules and rulers [13:03] you can say that again [13:05] can't help with the multiple monitors, I just use our Panasonic plasma tv as a monitor [13:07] * lordievader uses three screens [13:09] never saw the point of multiple monitors for my situation but I suppose they have their uses [13:11] but we do have 3 samsung 22" monitors here, but I've never thought of setting them up together ...don't see how my cheap nvidia card could accommodate them anyway [13:12] I have Matrix/IRC on the left. A terminal on the right. And variable stuff in the middle. [13:12] I run this off of an I7 :) [13:12] i just use virtual desktops [13:13] and yakuake as the terminal in all [13:15] I like to have a terminal always available. [13:15] And shown if can be.. [13:16] I use the 3 monitors all the time for my workplace.. lots of open windows and research going on... If I only had one I would be moving windows all day [13:16] 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03) [13:17] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 980] (rev a1) [13:17] must be some huge files on this machine [13:17] 82,771 of 84,376 done, 55.1GB of 184GB [13:18] any program available to show you what is taking up the space on your drive by file size? [13:18] yakuake is a drop down terminal, just hit F12 , after installing [13:19] ForceRecon: `df` [13:19] ForceRecon: And `du`, read the man-page for both ;) [13:20] Add some lovely awk/sort magic and you have quick utility for pointing to large dirs. [13:21] all my vmware folders and dvds [13:21] thanks for the information [13:24] ForceRecon: I have written this script for that stuff: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lordievader/scripts/master/filesize.sh === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [13:26] ForceRecon: if you want a GUI thing, there's k4dirstat [13:26] !info k4dirstat [13:26] k4dirstat (source: k4dirstat): graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1 (zesty), package size 236 kB, installed size 771 kB [13:26] I will write that one down.. I like visuals.. [13:31] https://i.imgur.com/LeHMLb3.jpg [13:32] https://i.imgur.com/epAHKru.png [13:32] I like that wallpaper better than default [13:36] h [13:48] gonna close out polari for now while this backup/copy works.. about another 2 hours it states.. don't think so, but thanks again for all the help and I will see you on the other side.. [13:49] oh on a side note if I install the nightly build.. I can just upgrade to full release after 27th correct? [13:49] or should I wait for the release dvd and then install? [13:50] ForceRecon: I think it is out the 19th? at any rate you just upgrade as usual [13:50] outstanding.. thanks! === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [14:58] morning folks [14:58] good morning D0U91E [14:58] fresh and well you are lookin === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [16:46] Giovanni was added by: Giovanni [16:52] Hi, I am Giovanni. I have installed kubuntu 17.04. I can't get connection with my normal router Wi-Fi. I click on it and nothing happens. But if I use the router of my smartphone, it works. How Can I fix this problem? [16:53] It is also strange that I see that there are 4 channels of my router === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === jaafar_ is now known as jaafar === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [19:07] Hi people! I have a quick question about Kubuntu 17.10. [19:10] Good evening, … I have the following problem, after which I had made an upgrade to kubuntu 17.10, I have a black screen. The only thing I see is the mouse pointer, and the dark background with the KDE logo. … Is it still the fact that the new plasma 5.11 is still being worked on or rather because the backport ppa is not quite yet? [19:29] did you remove the ppa that you used to install 5..11 ? [19:30] best to remove the ppa immediately afterwards === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] [19:41] I have no access to the Gui and a Rootshell can not be opened completely, if I press Alt + F2 to get into the rootshell, I get quite black screen, so I ask what I could do in the event. … Currently I have Kubuntu 17.10 drauf but with a plasma version 5.10.5 instead of 5.11 [19:59] !nomodeset | Silenoz [19:59] Silenoz: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [20:01] Hello! [20:02] hi kubi [20:02] hi kubi [20:03] then once you get a desktop go to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma and add the ppa to your sources, then once 5.11 is installed immediately remove it from you /etc/apt/sources.list.d file and your package manager or before the next update/upgrade [20:03] I am in a live Kubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, and I do not see anything on the desktop or anywhere to install kubuntu on my pc [20:03] Silenoz^ [20:03] Ok, once thank you for the help and the link, I'll look to see if I can fix the problem now. If not, I'll sign up again :) [20:05] is there a way to install kubuntu from its live session? [20:06] there should be, is there installer now in the menu? [20:06] not [20:07] i cannot see anything with the install word in it in the menu [20:07] do you want 16.04 specifically? [20:07] 74/5000 … To the staging-plasma ppa, is this new? … Because I just did not know that. [20:07] 17.10 is going to be released very soon [20:08] I want the LTS which from my understanding is Kubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with updates until apr2019 [20:09] is there an icon on the desktop? [20:10] I would have liked to be supported with updates this LTS(16.04) until 2021, like Ubuntu, but apparently the Kubuntu is supported only for 3 year [20:10] no man, my desktop in the live session is completely empty [20:11] not a single icon on the desktop [20:12] kubi: what language are you using on the live session? [20:14] it did not ask me to select any language.........I se that english is the default, which is good [20:16] i may have made a mistake....please excuse me [20:16] i may have entered a previous installed version [20:17] kubi: yes, that sounds likely [20:17] ok, will reboot and try to reach the live version(where i expect to see a shortcut with install on the desktop [20:18] otherwise you would see: https://i.imgur.com/DdGOiJ9.png [20:19] my appologies! [20:19] lol. we've all done that most likely! [20:19] at one point or another [20:21] freaking copy from home to server took a dump [20:21] starting over.. crazy it does not say, hey things exist.. overwrite or not [20:21] just doing its thing [20:21] Fcked Up [20:22] I really hate when you copy something that you have no freaking idea what is happening [20:22] maybe something they should add.. this is not KUBUNTU.. just copying in general [20:23] ??? [20:24] ForceRecon: use rysnc then [20:24] I want to wipe my machine.. decided to copy all data from home.. to 6TB local lan server.. took a dump.. restarted.. mentions nothing about duplicates.. just redoing it.. [20:25] rsync copies one file at a time, and ensures it is bit-correct before moving to the next [20:25] I think I need to learn c or python and create a simple gdamn backup program that goes in the repository and when it askes you where to put the files it KNOWS to include shares.. [20:25] freaking backup programs are garbage.. [20:26] rsync [20:26] honestly, not much beats it [20:26] and it's about as fast as anything else [20:26] yeah,, well most of us would appreciate a backup to a share utilizing the rsync feature in a gui and uncompressed.. [20:27] just copy the files.. geez.. you would think this would be so simple and so required.. [20:27] gonnna make it myself.. tired of try crap all the time that has not been updated for 17 years [20:29] let me rephrase.. not mad at Kubuntu.. just everyone else === enzo is now known as Guest25751 === jumpy is now known as MorbisFaper === EvilClown is now known as EvilClown[away] === daniel is now known as Guest42176 === Guest42176 is now known as carolinablue453 [21:11] jkl; === EvilClown[away] is now known as EvilClown [22:06] . [22:07] To the staging-plasma ppa still a question, is now a stable version for the plasma or an additional beta like the kubuntu / beta ppa? … I question this now out of the background, since I am now not willing to put my laptop with kubuntu to the 5th time [22:09] "staging" -- only for testing [22:09] please go to the PPA and read the warning [22:11] Ok, because I currently me the notes on the website: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma, durchlese and I also know of the kubuntu / beta ppa. So I wanted to ask specifically again. Not that I again problems with the GUI get like today at noon. … Thank you for the information :) [22:21] greetings from Kubuntu world 17.10 nightly build :) [22:21] the installation was perfect.. [22:21] 3 monitors working [22:22] configured Kmail for email and every time I open it.. freeze machine.. so that's horrible.. but will figure it out [22:22] no wireless either.. [22:22] 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03) [22:23] also getting message all the time saying [22:24] proprietary drivers should I risk changing it to Using Nvidia binary driver version 384.90. I think I will [22:24] here we go! [22:25] huh [22:25] you might try running ubuntu-drivers [22:25] and see what it recommends [22:26] for both the broadcom and nvidia [22:27] looks like wireless just showed up [22:27] changed over to nvidia too. no hickups.. takes some times pops up on its own [22:27] gonna disconnect from wire.. see if I keep connection to forum [22:28] test [22:28] guess I am still here [22:28] gonna open mail now.. hope I come back.. actually reboot first then try [22:46] When going to "Driver Manager", my video card driver is set to "Using X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau". I have the option to switch to the recommended "Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 375.66 from nvidia-755 (Recommended Driver)" [22:46] Should I switch to the nvidia? Any reason the install didn't choose that one but instead chose Nouveau? [22:48] oh4: default install tends to only install free drivers [22:49] oh [22:49] I thought it would install nvidia if it saw the card for it [22:49] hmm [22:49] I think there are issues with shipping non-free drivers on the iso/install media [22:50] issues as in legal issues or just compatibility? [22:50] I'm wondering if I should switch to the nvidia but concerned video will break [22:50] legal [22:51] that's why I ask [22:51] ah, ok...makes me feel a little better :) [22:52] usually the nvidia drivers work better (I use the proprietary drivers on my system) [22:52] koo...I'll give it a shot...thanks! [22:52] only problem is that NVidia can be slow about fixing stuff [22:52] yea, that is true [22:52] and don't support Wayland :( [22:52] at least on the Linux [22:53] oh, that I didn't know [22:53] I wonder when wayland will make it's way here [22:54] plasma is already on Wayland or supported on it [22:54] they'd have to do something at that point once kde is ported to it, no? [22:54] haven't been able to test it myself due to having NVidia driver installed [22:54] dang, maybe I should look into this a little more...I'm running 17.04 [22:55] https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/ [22:55] he is the guy works on kwin [22:56] "kde" will not be ported to nvidia [22:56] nvidia needs to port to wayland [22:57] kde is the community, but the plasma/kwin team will not be doing anything special for nvidia [22:57] good info...thanks for sharing [22:57] nvidia needs to conform to the standards for wayland, and so far they are doing their own special "magic" [22:58] makes me angry, since I have nvidia as well [22:58] and wayland is the future [22:58] I wish they would get with the program [22:59] one can hope [22:59] let's see what happens [23:00] everyone is waiting on them