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tgm4883Just tried 17.10 on my yoga 11e, no touchpad and no keyboard (although the touchscreen works) where would be a good place to start on this?01:03
tgm4883to be clear, I just tried the live session, not installed01:03
oerhekswhat does ' xinput list ' give?01:04
oerheksand did you have to do any trick earlier to make it work?01:04
tgm4883oerheks: me? I haven't done anything to make it work yet. It worked fine in 17.04 OOTB01:05
tgm4883Let me see what xinput list does01:05
oerheksoke, ootb would be valuable info.. also in live mode?01:05
oerheks* in 17.04, that is01:06
tgm4883ok01:06
tgm488317.04 mate is what is currently installed. I'll have to grab a standard 17.04 ISO01:06
tgm4883I'm guessing that it's not detecting it at all since the onscreen keyboard pops up on text fields01:07
tgm4883I can't even get a terminal to come up01:13
tgm4883it tries to start then gives up, no error01:14
oerheksalt f2  ? or ctl alt t01:15
tgm4883none of those work, no keyboard01:18
tgm4883although the media keys work01:18
oerheks:-(01:20
oerheksno clue then .. do you have a keyboard with a reciever/usb?01:20
oerhekslogitech k400 or so?01:21
tgm4883yea I do01:23
oerheksthere you go, if you can connect it, you are free to check xinput01:25
oerheksi have one too, for such reasons/test pc01:25
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CVirusWhy is do-release-upgrade -d trying to upgrade me to 17.10 if it is not released yet?09:26
CVirus<EriC^^> CVirus: because of the "-d"09:27
oerheks-d development or '-do me the latest beta now!'09:30
freakyyhi :) i run 17.10 perfectly on my laptop and on my big pc. i have one problem on my laptop. the boot-up screen looks instead of purple it looks white and font has pink shadow, everything wron color so to say ;D12:51
freakyyi just reported a bug :D13:12
greglWhere can i find info on nvidia Gforce 9500 GT and whether it will work with 17.10? I have googled for the info,but so far i'm coming up empty..16:59
greglUnder 16.04 i'm running 340.102..17:00
powersjgregl: via nVidia's own webiste, 340.104 is the latest driver for that family of cards (e.g. GeForce 9 series) per http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/123703/en-us17:02
powersjthere does appear to be a package with that version in artful: "nvidia-340 - NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.104"17:04
greglpowersj, Thanks for that.. I did try it a month ago,but after a reboot i had nothing but a black screen.. I couldn't recover from that,so I am a bit reluctant to try it again...17:11
BluesKajgregl, yes the 340 is available on Artful,. I'm using it as we speak on 17.1017:12
powersjgregl: yikes :) I can understand not wanting to try again17:12
BluesKajgregl, just make sure you have dkms installed ..it should be by default17:13
greglBluesKaj, That's good to know.. Maybe I will give it a try then.. Thanks I will put your info in my install notes..17:14
ghostcubegregl: you shouldnt have only a blank screen after you reboot into a linux system even the driver is faulty. 18:00
greglghostcube, I have been running Linux since 1994.. I usually can solve most problems,but I could't even get it to boot to a command prompt,to purge the nvidia drivers.. I ended going back to 16.04..18:35
ghostcubesure, but this is not a nvidia driver problem18:37
ghostcubethis sounds like a problem with your system inside 17.1018:37
greglghostcube, Yeah,perhaps,but this happened nearly a month ago,so I will give it a go when the release comes out... Thanks18:40
stochastixHi, is there going to be an easy upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 possibly  ?18:41
ghostcubegregl: sure, could be a regression in an rc state of the iso18:41
ghostcube:)18:41
vithiriI noticed while installing the daily from yesterday on my laptop using the default partitioning (delete everything and move ahead) that no swap partition and no swap file was created -- is that intentional? I eventually ran out of memory and had some random freezes before managing to Google my way towards creating a swap file.19:13
BluesKajvithiri, that's odd usually there's a reminder popup to create a swap in the partitioning phase19:18
vithiriBluesKaj: There's no partitioning phase if you just accept the defaults. :)19:19
BluesKajare you sure?19:19
vithiriBluesKaj: Looks like the same was observed in 17.04 as well (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359100). Still reading through the thread though.19:20
vithiriPerhaps the use case is rare, or it's just a fluke. I don't find a lot of references to it.19:20
vithiriThis laptop is admittedly very low on RAM and would choke without swap fairly quickly.19:21
BluesKajuse gparted live media to create a swap, it's not difficult19:21
vithiriI just created a swapfile, now it works fine. I'm not sure if that's the expected OOB experience though. :)19:21
flocculantit's not19:22
vithiriThat seems to be how the referenced thread ended as well.19:22
BluesKajhmm, that surprises me, but i usually prepartition before installing clean so the swap already exists 19:24
flocculantxubuntu at least creates swapfile in /19:24
flocculantjust booting the ubuntu iso19:24
flocculantBluesKaj: ack - if there is some swap somewhere that gets used, if none exists *buntu no longer creates a swap partition, just a swapfile19:25
BluesKajwe're talking about swap paririons here..swap files a re a different story19:25
flocculantBluesKaj: you're talking about swap partitions - vithiri was talking about no swapfile :D19:26
flocculantwell we all are :p19:26
vithiriI'm used to creating a swap partition myself, or rather just using the one I've got around in the partitioning. This was the first time for a long time that I just went with the default to see what happens. It seems like it should have created a swapfile by default.19:26
BluesKajflocculant, think he meant partition 19:26
flocculantvithiri: it should have19:27
BluesKajvithiri, wonder if a minimum amount of ram now precludes a swapfile or partition19:28
vithirihttps://pastebin.com/LmiphEk5 -- here's a comparison of "top" running before and after creating my swapfile.19:28
BluesKajI don't trust autopartitioning ...period 19:32
vithiriThat's why I usually handle it myself. :D19:34
flocculantvithiri: I assume that fstab doesn't have a /swapfile line ? alos you could look in /var/log/installer/partman to see if that shows any swap19:34
vithiriflocculant: Now it does. I can't tell you if it did before I created the file, but the file wasn't there.19:34
flocculantwell I just tried xubuntu and ubuntu - both created a swapfile in / as expected19:37
flocculantnot having one is definitely not expected :)19:37
vithiriflocculant: There is this line: /lib/partman/finish.d/25create_swapfile: IN: PARTITIONS =dev=sda19:38
vithiriflocculant: I guess the first one is for the swapfile created on the USB media.19:38
flocculantI guess - not sure though :)19:47
vithiriSorry, I was disconnected for some reason. If it was more widespread, you'd most likely have been alerted apart from an obscure thread over at the forums already. :)19:47
flocculantyup19:49
vithiriSo far, no further freezes in 17.10 on this machine after creating the swapfile at least. Could be worth keeping an eye on complaints. :)20:37
lundmarlol, in Ubuntu 17.10, running gnome-terminal and pressing f11 (fullscreen) repeatedly will make the terminal window shrink :/20:37
vithirilundmar: Try to grab hold of the right hand side border and resize it horizontally swiftly back and forth. Just read about that issue on Reddit.20:38
vithirilundmar: Most likely, the window will keep growing vertically.20:38
lundmarvithiri: I can't reproduce that. However, the F11 shrink is quite annoying when working in and out of terinals during the day.20:41
vithirilundmar: Can you reproduce it with two tabs open?20:54
vithirilundmar: Noticed I can't reproduce it with only one tab.20:54
lundmarvithiri: No - works fine here.21:07
vithirilundmar: https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwrTSfFj17Zek5W/giphy.gif21:14
lundmarvithiri: No, I can't reproduce it. I'm running Gnome/Wayland.21:24
ignoohello, running ubuntu GNOME 16.04, have some issue with ubuntu ArtfulAardvark: https://pastebin.com/W1tBbqpq . Thank you for your support.23:38
naccthat is spam --^ also was done in #ubuntu, just fyi23:42
krytarikAnd also in #ubuntuforums.23:42

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