[01:03] Just tried 17.10 on my yoga 11e, no touchpad and no keyboard (although the touchscreen works) where would be a good place to start on this? [01:03] to be clear, I just tried the live session, not installed [01:04] what does ' xinput list ' give? [01:04] and did you have to do any trick earlier to make it work? [01:05] oerheks: me? I haven't done anything to make it work yet. It worked fine in 17.04 OOTB [01:05] Let me see what xinput list does [01:05] oke, ootb would be valuable info.. also in live mode? [01:06] * in 17.04, that is [01:06] ok [01:06] 17.04 mate is what is currently installed. I'll have to grab a standard 17.04 ISO [01:07] I'm guessing that it's not detecting it at all since the onscreen keyboard pops up on text fields [01:13] I can't even get a terminal to come up [01:14] it tries to start then gives up, no error [01:15] alt f2 ? or ctl alt t [01:18] none of those work, no keyboard [01:18] although the media keys work [01:20] :-( [01:20] no clue then .. do you have a keyboard with a reciever/usb? [01:21] logitech k400 or so? [01:23] yea I do [01:25] there you go, if you can connect it, you are free to check xinput [01:25] i have one too, for such reasons/test pc === croppa_ is now known as croppa [09:26] Why is do-release-upgrade -d trying to upgrade me to 17.10 if it is not released yet? [09:27] CVirus: because of the "-d" [09:30] -d development or '-do me the latest beta now!' [12:51] hi :) i run 17.10 perfectly on my laptop and on my big pc. i have one problem on my laptop. the boot-up screen looks instead of purple it looks white and font has pink shadow, everything wron color so to say ;D [13:12] i just reported a bug :D [16:59] Where can i find info on nvidia Gforce 9500 GT and whether it will work with 17.10? I have googled for the info,but so far i'm coming up empty.. [17:00] Under 16.04 i'm running 340.102.. [17:02] gregl: via nVidia's own webiste, 340.104 is the latest driver for that family of cards (e.g. GeForce 9 series) per http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/123703/en-us [17:04] there does appear to be a package with that version in artful: "nvidia-340 - NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.104" [17:11] powersj, Thanks for that.. I did try it a month ago,but after a reboot i had nothing but a black screen.. I couldn't recover from that,so I am a bit reluctant to try it again... [17:12] gregl, yes the 340 is available on Artful,. I'm using it as we speak on 17.10 [17:12] gregl: yikes :) I can understand not wanting to try again [17:13] gregl, just make sure you have dkms installed ..it should be by default [17:14] BluesKaj, That's good to know.. Maybe I will give it a try then.. Thanks I will put your info in my install notes.. [18:00] gregl: you shouldnt have only a blank screen after you reboot into a linux system even the driver is faulty. [18:35] ghostcube, I have been running Linux since 1994.. I usually can solve most problems,but I could't even get it to boot to a command prompt,to purge the nvidia drivers.. I ended going back to 16.04.. [18:37] sure, but this is not a nvidia driver problem [18:37] this sounds like a problem with your system inside 17.10 [18:40] ghostcube, Yeah,perhaps,but this happened nearly a month ago,so I will give it a go when the release comes out... Thanks [18:41] Hi, is there going to be an easy upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 possibly ? [18:41] gregl: sure, could be a regression in an rc state of the iso [18:41] :) [19:13] I noticed while installing the daily from yesterday on my laptop using the default partitioning (delete everything and move ahead) that no swap partition and no swap file was created -- is that intentional? I eventually ran out of memory and had some random freezes before managing to Google my way towards creating a swap file. [19:18] vithiri, that's odd usually there's a reminder popup to create a swap in the partitioning phase [19:19] BluesKaj: There's no partitioning phase if you just accept the defaults. :) [19:19] are you sure? [19:20] BluesKaj: Looks like the same was observed in 17.04 as well (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359100). Still reading through the thread though. [19:20] Perhaps the use case is rare, or it's just a fluke. I don't find a lot of references to it. [19:21] This laptop is admittedly very low on RAM and would choke without swap fairly quickly. [19:21] use gparted live media to create a swap, it's not difficult [19:21] I just created a swapfile, now it works fine. I'm not sure if that's the expected OOB experience though. :) [19:22] it's not [19:22] That seems to be how the referenced thread ended as well. [19:24] hmm, that surprises me, but i usually prepartition before installing clean so the swap already exists [19:24] xubuntu at least creates swapfile in / [19:24] just booting the ubuntu iso [19:25] BluesKaj: ack - if there is some swap somewhere that gets used, if none exists *buntu no longer creates a swap partition, just a swapfile [19:25] we're talking about swap paririons here..swap files a re a different story [19:26] BluesKaj: you're talking about swap partitions - vithiri was talking about no swapfile :D [19:26] well we all are :p [19:26] I'm used to creating a swap partition myself, or rather just using the one I've got around in the partitioning. This was the first time for a long time that I just went with the default to see what happens. It seems like it should have created a swapfile by default. [19:26] flocculant, think he meant partition [19:27] vithiri: it should have [19:28] vithiri, wonder if a minimum amount of ram now precludes a swapfile or partition [19:28] https://pastebin.com/LmiphEk5 -- here's a comparison of "top" running before and after creating my swapfile. [19:32] I don't trust autopartitioning ...period [19:34] That's why I usually handle it myself. :D [19:34] vithiri: I assume that fstab doesn't have a /swapfile line ? alos you could look in /var/log/installer/partman to see if that shows any swap [19:34] flocculant: Now it does. I can't tell you if it did before I created the file, but the file wasn't there. [19:37] well I just tried xubuntu and ubuntu - both created a swapfile in / as expected [19:37] not having one is definitely not expected :) [19:38] flocculant: There is this line: /lib/partman/finish.d/25create_swapfile: IN: PARTITIONS =dev=sda [19:38] flocculant: I guess the first one is for the swapfile created on the USB media. [19:47] I guess - not sure though :) [19:47] Sorry, I was disconnected for some reason. If it was more widespread, you'd most likely have been alerted apart from an obscure thread over at the forums already. :) [19:49] yup [20:37] So far, no further freezes in 17.10 on this machine after creating the swapfile at least. Could be worth keeping an eye on complaints. :) [20:37] lol, in Ubuntu 17.10, running gnome-terminal and pressing f11 (fullscreen) repeatedly will make the terminal window shrink :/ [20:38] lundmar: Try to grab hold of the right hand side border and resize it horizontally swiftly back and forth. Just read about that issue on Reddit. [20:38] lundmar: Most likely, the window will keep growing vertically. [20:41] vithiri: I can't reproduce that. However, the F11 shrink is quite annoying when working in and out of terinals during the day. [20:54] lundmar: Can you reproduce it with two tabs open? [20:54] lundmar: Noticed I can't reproduce it with only one tab. [21:07] vithiri: No - works fine here. [21:14] lundmar: https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwrTSfFj17Zek5W/giphy.gif [21:24] vithiri: No, I can't reproduce it. I'm running Gnome/Wayland. [23:38] hello, running ubuntu GNOME 16.04, have some issue with ubuntu ArtfulAardvark: https://pastebin.com/W1tBbqpq . Thank you for your support. [23:42] that is spam --^ also was done in #ubuntu, just fyi [23:42] And also in #ubuntuforums.