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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 05:53 |
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| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:00 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:05 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:36 |
| jibel | morning | 06:46 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 06:46 |
| jibel | salut didrocks , ça va ? | 06:47 |
| * duflu returns and then leaves again to put on work clothes and fix 3 holes in the roof :P | 07:03 | |
| duflu | Without rain I would never know | 07:03 |
| flocculant | without rain - you could leave it till another day :) | 07:19 |
| didrocks | jibel: ça va bien, et toi ? | 07:19 |
| flocculant | morning didrocks :) | 07:20 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va bien. trying to find a release critical bug ;) | 07:20 |
| jibel | didrocks, then holidays next week before moving to a new house | 07:20 |
| didrocks | hey flocculant | 07:20 |
| didrocks | jibel: there is maybe this ATI one for you ;) | 07:21 |
| didrocks | jibel: sounds nice! and good luck ;) | 07:21 |
| jibel | terminal doesn't start in a live session on an uefi syste | 07:21 |
| jibel | m | 07:21 |
| jibel | same problem with the locale it seems | 07:21 |
| didrocks | yeah, probably | 07:21 |
| didrocks | I'm going to do a full reinstall on my main machine with current iso (but probably tomorrow morning) | 07:22 |
| didrocks | didn't reinstall since… 2011! | 07:22 |
| didrocks | cleaning up and migrating my home dir | 07:22 |
| jibel | my main machine has been installed in 2010 and upgraded since then | 07:22 |
| didrocks | even more hardcore :) | 07:23 |
| didrocks | mine is 2011 due to laptop refresh :p | 07:23 |
| jibel | why would you need to reinstall ? | 07:23 |
| didrocks | it's more an excuse to clean up most of my -dev packages and other tools installed | 07:23 |
| jibel | I run deborphan and deborphan -a from time to time to clean up stuff that accumulated over time | 07:24 |
| jibel | dpigs is also useful to free some space | 07:24 |
| flocculant | jibel: I regularly reinstall as I'm awesome at killing xubuntu with the dev ppa's we use :D | 07:24 |
| didrocks | oh, I don't know about dpigs | 07:25 |
| * didrocks looks | 07:25 | |
| jibel | bug 1724153 | 07:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1724153 in casper (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal does not start in live session on an UEFI system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724153 | 07:33 |
| jibel | didrocks, what's the bug # for the issue with ATI? | 07:36 |
| didrocks | jibel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1723577 | 07:38 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1723577 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Artful won't start with Wayland activated (AMD?)" [High,Confirmed] | 07:38 |
| didrocks | I think amano's one is different (he has nvidia), and is due to the kernel | 07:38 |
| didrocks | at least 2 persons though confirms it so far | 07:39 |
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| didrocks | duflu: I see you suggested the same packages than I did there (directly on the french forum, as both persons impacted are there). Looking at the upgrade list, I'm a little bit out of ideas | 07:40 |
| jibel | there is bug 1723619 too | 07:41 |
| didrocks | I aksed for the gdm logs in debug mode | 07:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1723619 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Desktop ISO fails to boot with nouveau on a displayport" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723619 | 07:41 |
| didrocks | yeah, I guess that's amano's one | 07:41 |
| jibel | okay | 07:41 |
| didrocks | on the ATI bug it worked until the 5-7th October | 07:41 |
| didrocks | so, there is hope :) | 07:42 |
| didrocks | we should write some revert program taking a date in /var/log/apt/history.log and reverting all upgraded package that day | 07:42 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:43 |
| didrocks | (also, enabling rollbacking from a source package, with a particular version) | 07:43 |
| didrocks | I might do it next cycle, would be easier for contributors/debug situations like this | 07:43 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:43 |
| seb128 | jibel, could be that the uefi issue is fixed by https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/1.387 ? | 07:43 |
| seb128 | just random guess, I saw that upload | 07:43 |
| seb128 | but it has no bug reference | 07:43 |
| jibel | seb128, yes it should be. Respin is imminent | 07:45 |
| seb128 | I read that on #u-r, good | 07:46 |
| Laney | ahoy | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:03 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey didrocks seb128 willcooke | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:06 |
| Laney | what's up? | 08:06 |
| * Laney is good, nice climbing last night \m/ | 08:06 | |
| didrocks | nothing special, still mostly baby-caring time as another full time job :p (especially now that he doesn't want to do his last nap :p) | 08:07 |
| willcooke | didrocks, ahha! | 08:08 |
| willcooke | didrocks, so it begins | 08:08 |
| didrocks | it does! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | begins?! | 08:12 |
| willcooke | First two naps, then one nap, then no nap, then they never. shut. the. hell. up. | 08:15 |
| didrocks | is there still a probation period, can you send him back? :) | 08:16 |
| jibel | pre-teens never. shut. the. hell. up. either .... | 08:16 |
| * Laney nelson laugh | 08:19 | |
| duflu | didrocks, better to ask twice than not at all I guess. | 08:33 |
| duflu | Hey, good news: I didn't kill myself when replacing roof tiles | 08:33 |
| willcooke | glad to hear it duflu :)) | 08:37 |
| duflu | Ha. "Very high (near 100%) chance of showers with gusty winds in the evening." | 08:38 |
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| andyrock | hey all | 09:31 |
| didrocks | hey andyrock | 09:31 |
| willcooke | morning andyrock | 09:31 |
| duflu | Hi andyrock | 09:34 |
| duflu | willcooke, if I propose a patch to mutter today does that count as SRU yet? | 09:56 |
| duflu | Hopefully not | 09:56 |
| willcooke | Final freeze is in the past, so it might be. seb128 or Laney will know for sure | 09:57 |
| jbicha | duflu: yes, it will likely be an SRU (possibly zero-day) unless it gets uploaded immediately (there will be a [final?] respin soon) | 09:58 |
| duflu | jbicha, gimme 60 seconds | 09:58 |
| willcooke | morning jbicha | 09:59 |
| duflu | jbicha, patch in the upstream bug link - https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1724185 | 09:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1724185 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Xwayland leaves no core dump when crashing" [High,New] | 09:59 |
| didrocks | the respin will be started soon (waiting on some packages to publish), apart if there is another one, it will be a SRU | 09:59 |
| didrocks | maybe you can bribe infinity | 10:00 |
| didrocks | if the fixes are easy enough and warrant the wait for a respin | 10:00 |
| jbicha | duflu: I don't see a patch? | 10:00 |
| duflu | jbicha, it's the raw attachment inhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789086 | 10:00 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 789086 in wayland "Xwayland leaves no core dump when crashing" [Major,New] | 10:00 |
| jbicha | oh there's 2 GNOME bugs for that LP bug | 10:01 |
| duflu | jbicha, ok attached in LP | 10:02 |
| Laney | not sure you should rush this in (seem Jonas's comment) | 10:05 |
| jibel | why do you want it in the image? 0d SRU should be fine | 10:06 |
| jbicha | Laney: where do you see Jonas' comment? | 10:08 |
| didrocks | (on the upstream bug) | 10:08 |
| duflu | Laney, yeah needs more work. | 10:08 |
| duflu | But the top gnome-shell crasher was worth pushing for | 10:09 |
| jbicha | duflu: ok, let's wait for that | 10:09 |
| jbicha | (Jonas' comment wasn't there a few minutes ago ;) ) | 10:09 |
| jbicha | (let's wait = let's not rush to get this patch in now) | 10:10 |
| Laney | sure | 10:10 |
| Laney | but if it wasn't I would have gone and asked him for an opinion :-) | 10:10 |
| duflu | Yeah. Sad we don't have any clues yet - https://errors.ubuntu.com/?package=xwayland&period=year | 10:10 |
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| jbicha | seb128: for resizable tiling you need 2 things: mutter and gtk. There's enough mutter commits that reverting all of them doesn't make sense | 10:23 |
| jbicha | see the Florian and Georges commits just before 3.26.1 https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/log?h=gnome-3-26 | 10:23 |
| jbicha | you're right that the feature hasn't gotten much Ubuntu testing because gtk3 was stuck in artful-proposed :| | 10:24 |
| duflu | jbicha, I noticed that. I have a gtk proposal behind yours | 10:30 |
| jbicha | duflu: the update got stuck because of LP: #1721828 | 10:31 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1721828 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Artful) "gtk 3.22.24 breaks software-properties tests (Gdk-Message: setup.py: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :99.)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721828 | 10:31 |
| duflu | jbicha, it's OK. My gtk proposal is less important than many other things | 10:31 |
| seb128 | jbicha, was->is, gtk is still stucked in proposed and it looks like it's not going to migrate for release | 11:36 |
| duflu | OK, new mutter patch provided upstream. I need to run | 11:51 |
| duflu | (no, we don't need it this week) | 11:52 |
| willcooke | Can someone confirm this: Go to control centre, search "users", click on it, long delay, finally opens? Same with browsing Details -> Users there is a delay before the panel opens | 12:41 |
| jibel | willcooke, what do you mean by "long delay" ? | 12:44 |
| willcooke | ~ 5 seconds or so | 12:44 |
| jibel | it's slower than other panel but not so much | 12:44 |
| jibel | more like half a second here | 12:44 |
| willcooke | it's about 7 seconds here | 12:44 |
| willcooke | might just be me | 12:44 |
| willcooke | can someone else check when they get a mo please | 12:44 |
| andyrock | it's slower | 12:46 |
| andyrock | not 7 seconds | 12:46 |
| andyrock | but feels like a bug | 12:46 |
| jibel | willcooke, same result on another machine, it is not what I would call slow | 12:46 |
| willcooke | kk, must be me then | 12:46 |
| willcooke | :) | 12:47 |
| willcooke | thanks jibel andyrock | 12:47 |
| andyrock | maybe it depends on the number of users | 12:47 |
| willcooke | Dont think so, since I first saw it when I was trying to add a new user | 12:47 |
| willcooke | and it's the same now with 2 as it was with 1 | 12:47 |
| andyrock | there must me some sync operation | 12:47 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it's a known issue, was discussed at GUADEC by some of the fedora people, it's the new panel doing too much sync work on init | 12:48 |
| willcooke | ah, ok! thanks seb128 | 12:49 |
| willcooke | I'll add a known issue to the release notes then | 12:49 |
| seb128 | could people install gtk from proposed and give it a try? | 12:50 |
| willcooke | doing now | 12:51 |
| seb128 | it's being pondered to move out of proposed to the iso | 12:51 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:51 |
| willcooke | seb128, anything I should look for | 12:51 |
| willcooke | ? | 12:51 |
| seb128 | no, just if you find anything weird/buggy with it | 12:51 |
| willcooke | ack | 12:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, do you have an external webcam connected? is it less slow without it? | 13:05 |
| willcooke | seb128, only the built in one | 13:05 |
| seb128 | k | 13:05 |
| seb128 | I was looking for open upstream bugs | 13:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, but basically https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783789 | 13:06 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 783789 in User Accounts "User accounts panel is slow to open" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] | 13:06 |
| seb128 | which got marked as a duplicate of a cheese bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782627 | 13:07 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 782627 in general "Cheese starts slowly" [Normal,Needinfo] | 13:07 |
| seb128 | is cheese slow to start for you? | 13:07 |
| seb128 | shrug, why is cheese listed twice in the dash? | 13:08 |
| willcooke | interesting, yes it does | 13:08 |
| willcooke | very slow | 13:08 |
| willcooke | seb128, do you have the snap installed as well? | 13:08 |
| seb128 | k, good, so it's probably the same issue | 13:08 |
| seb128 | willcooke, lol, I do, good thinking :) | 13:09 |
| willcooke | :) | 13:09 |
| seb128 | I installed it during the rally to help Ken to debug it | 13:09 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, btw did you ever manage to work on that/figure it out? | 13:09 |
| kenvandine | seb128, no, i haven't gone back to it yet | 13:11 |
| seb128 | k, I might still have a look then :p | 13:12 |
| seb128 | willcooke, Laney, jbicha, new gtk seems to work fine for me | 13:13 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah, nothing bad happened here yet | 13:13 |
| didrocks | after trying some reboots (in vms only, didn't want to restart my session), I confirm that I didn't spot anything after 30 minutes of testing and various apps | 14:21 |
| didrocks | (with new gtk) | 14:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks for testing/confirming | 14:22 |
| seb128 | we should have forced migration that one some days ago :-/ | 14:22 |
| didrocks | agreed | 14:23 |
| didrocks | or use the french community to test it at the same time | 14:23 |
| didrocks | speaking of which… let's ask them | 14:23 |
| Laney | It wasn't clear that it was not a GTK bug | 14:24 |
| Laney | I don't agree that we should have forced it | 14:24 |
| Laney | (or I would have argued for that and then probably done it) | 14:24 |
| seb128 | well either wait we should have ignored it stucked in proposed for so long, it feels like we ended up having to make a bad call late | 14:26 |
| seb128 | either reject or land without margin to get feedback about issues | 14:26 |
| Laney | I did not ignore it | 14:26 |
| seb128 | should *not* | 14:26 |
| Laney | I was working on that bug for days | 14:26 |
| seb128 | I don't say you did | 14:26 |
| seb128 | but we delayed taking a decision too long imho | 14:26 |
| Laney | ok, I disagree with you but no need to argue there | 14:26 |
| seb128 | we should as a team have discussion ours options when it was becoming late | 14:27 |
| seb128 | discussed | 14:27 |
| seb128 | k, fair | 14:27 |
| seb128 | I just don't like to land it that late, unsure how we could have avoided that though | 14:28 |
| willcooke | Meeting time | 14:30 |
| jbicha | o/ | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | \o | 14:30 |
| andyrock | o/ | 14:31 |
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 14:31 |
| seb128 | o/ | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 14:31 |
| heber | o/ | 14:31 |
| didrocks | hey! | 14:31 |
| jibel | hi | 14:31 |
| willcooke | Looks like we have enough people to get started. | 14:31 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 14:32 |
| andyrock | hey | 14:32 |
| andyrock | 1. Spotting apport issues | 14:32 |
| andyrock | 2. Some work on livepatch dekstop integratation | 14:32 |
| andyrock | 3. Working on this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1723301 (I have a possible fix but not a way to reproduce this, so upstream asked me to try a way to reproduce this) | 14:32 |
| andyrock | 4. Working on this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1720400 (found a way to reproduce, trying to fix it) | 14:32 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1723301 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_wayland_surface_ensure_inhibit_shortcuts_dialog()" [Medium,In progress] | 14:32 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1720400 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:11:update_buffers:image_get_buffers:intel_update_image_buffers:intel_update_renderbuffers:intel_prepare_render" [High,Triaged] | 14:32 |
| andyrock | eow | 14:32 |
| willcooke | Thanks andyrock | 14:32 |
| willcooke | any other bugs assigned for release andyrock? | 14:33 |
| andyrock | nope | 14:33 |
| willcooke | cool, | 14:33 |
| willcooke | thanks | 14:33 |
| andyrock | I'm trying to fix some crashes around | 14:33 |
| andyrock | but nothing blocking | 14:33 |
| willcooke | great | 14:33 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 14:33 |
| dgadomski | hey | 14:33 |
| dgadomski | only 1 thing in desktop area: I was able to reproduce bug #1718688 with hostapd, checking wpasupplicant source code to fix it | 14:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718688 in linux (Ubuntu) "Can't connect to a Cisco AP with Wi-Fi Direct Client Policy enabled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718688 | 14:33 |
| dgadomski | eof | 14:33 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 14:33 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Settings: fix background selection color and only apply the theme change to our ones. | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Update to 3.26.1 & fix gnome-session migration for people running rhythmbox. Fix later a crasher for people not having it installed! Also make the "on Xorg" part translatable. | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * More Marco's theme reviews and discussion. Sponsored his work. | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Cherry-pick fix for focus on GNOME Shell. | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Tried to debug gdm for second user selection, found the regression, but a proper fix is complex and needs more digging | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Review & discuss gdm fix for fallback session with Olivier | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * More community interactions on our hub | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Worked with the french community (currently in progress) to debug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1723577 | 14:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1723577 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Artful won't start with Wayland activated (AMD?)" [High,Confirmed] | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Did some VM iso testing will do a real install tomorrow. | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Write a blog post for the past week changes: https://didrocks.fr/2017/10/16/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-15/ | 14:34 |
| didrocks | * Discussed with IS and p_opey, about discourse integration, which worked, didn't work and worked for a few hours without doing anything. Filed a RT now to get that properly tracked. Fallbacked to manual link posted (which probably refrain from getting comments). | 14:34 |
| didrocks | No RC bug assigned to me remaining | 14:34 |
| didrocks | . | 14:34 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 14:34 |
| willcooke | seems I forgot to start the meeting properly. | 14:34 |
| willcooke | never mind | 14:34 |
| willcooke | #topic duflu | 14:34 |
| willcooke | * Totem CPU usage (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698282) | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - RELEASED the main totem CPU fix (to Debian actually): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-gtk/1.8.4-2 | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - The patch is also upstream awaiting review still. | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Re-profiled totem/gst-play-1.0 and provided status updates in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698282 | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1698282 in clutter-gst-3.0 (Ubuntu) "Totem uses dramatically higher CPU than any other video player" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Temporarily finished this task? AFAIK the only remaining improvement is DMAbuf support which upstream has in progress already. Perhaps I will context switch away from this for a while and only step in again later if they haven't made progress on DMA-buf... | 14:35 |
| willcooke | * Totem stuttering (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698270) | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1698270 in totem (Ubuntu) "Totem pauses and stutters during video playback even when CPU usage is low" [High,In progress] | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Spent more hours retesting and trying to improve the GDK smoothness fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/gtk/fix-1698270/+merge/331846 (needs sponsorship) | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - The good news is the above fix still works well in totem, gnome-maps and gdkgears. And seemingly can't be improved. | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Spent more hours analysing the clutter code again to see if another fix needs to go in there too. Probably not, so long as the GDK fix lands. | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Spent more hours trying to identify why totem and only totem stutters badly on disk IO, in one place (yet other gstreamer apps don't). SUCCESS: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788926 (although it now seems upstream has known about it since 2014 and the old bug report just wasn't adequately worded to notice :/) | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788926 in general "Video playback pauses/stutters while totem writes to ~/.config/totem/session_state.xspf" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - WORK IN PROGRESS on a final fix for totem/totem-pl-parser. | 14:35 |
| willcooke | * Appearance (https://trello.com/c/YgueNEZA/260-bug1714459-shell-panel-font-is-blurry-under-wayland) | 14:35 |
| willcooke | - Iterated my fix for shell font rendering options a couple of times and proposed upstream again: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645433 | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 645433 in wayland "gnome-shell's panel ignores font settings" [Normal,Assigned] | 14:35 |
| willcooke | * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms and mir. | 14:35 |
| willcooke | (going to keep using the # commands so that I can parse the logs) | 14:35 |
| willcooke | #topic jbicha | 14:35 |
| jbicha | • robert_ancell's file-roller squashfs/snap patch is now upstream (after I poked the maintainer) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/662519 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 662519 in general "support for squashfs filesystem images" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • smcv got mozjs52 to build on s390x in Debian so I uploaded gnome-shell and friends to Debian unstable | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • Fixed and pushed upstream LP: #1723266 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1723266 in Caribou "Hide Caribou from Startup Applications" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723266 | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • Disabled the non-working Actions for LP: #1720262 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1720262 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-screenshot Actions don't work in default Ubuntu 17.10 session" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720262 | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • Rebased our patches to re-enable GNOME Builder's Terminal LP: #1722953 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1722953 in gnome-builder (Ubuntu) "Builder 3.26: Re-enable terminal plugin" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722953 | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • Sponsoring some mutter cherry-picked patches to artful | 14:36 |
| jbicha | • (no remaining rc bugs here) eof | 14:36 |
| willcooke | thanks jbicha | 14:36 |
| willcooke | #topic jamesh | 14:36 |
| willcooke | No update this week. | 14:37 |
| willcooke | :( | 14:37 |
| willcooke | #topic jibel / heber | 14:37 |
| heber | hey | 14:37 |
| heber | QA updates: | 14:37 |
| heber | * Wrote multi-monitor test cases | 14:37 |
| heber | * Release candidates testing (new image coming soon) | 14:37 |
| heber | * Daily bug triaging | 14:37 |
| heber | * See ubiquity and upgrade jobs that are failing | 14:37 |
| heber | * Add snap helpers to ubuntu-system-tests | 14:37 |
| heber | * Continue with gnome-shell test runner | 14:37 |
| heber | EOF | 14:37 |
| willcooke | thanks heber | 14:37 |
| jibel | just a note about the release | 14:37 |
| willcooke | #topic kenvandine | 14:37 |
| jibel | we are waiting for a new image to fix bug 1724224 | 14:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1724224 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with FileNotFoundError in _execute_child(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sensible-browser': 'sensible-browser'" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724224 | 14:37 |
| willcooke | oops carry on jibel | 14:37 |
| jibel | and new translation for kylin | 14:38 |
| jibel | done | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | * Worked on the GNOME SDK build snap, still missing quite a bit of stuff but it builds with glib, gtk, vala, and some other basics now. | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | * Remmina fixes have been merged upstream and in the edge channel of the store | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | * Added a couple new GNOME snaps | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | * Doing some cross distro snap testing in preparation for a blog post on running the latest GNOME apps as snaps | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | * No RC bugs assigned | 14:38 |
| willcooke | thanks jibel | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | found our snaps don't work on fedora :( | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | because of /snap not being used | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | popey is going to escalate that issue | 14:38 |
| seb128 | haha | 14:38 |
| willcooke | thanks kenvandine | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | works great on debian and mint though :) | 14:38 |
| seb128 | "told you if would be an issue" | 14:38 |
| willcooke | great news on remmina too | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yup :) | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | eof | 14:39 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 14:39 |
| Laney | • Went back to NYC | 14:39 |
| Laney | • Had a few meetings and 18.04 plan discussions, saw the plans of other teams | 14:39 |
| Laney | • Helped identify apport being broken, thanks Brian for fixing that | 14:39 |
| Laney | • Looked at gnome-software shell extensions category view being empty | 14:39 |
| Laney | • Spent a long long time looking into LP: #1721828, eventually fixed in the software-properties testsuite (that was my rls-aa-tracking bug) | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1721828 in software-properties (Ubuntu Artful) "gtk 3.22.24 breaks software-properties tests (Gdk-Message: setup.py: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :99.)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721828 | 14:39 |
| Laney | • A lot of queue reviews | 14:39 |
| Laney | 🚏 | 14:39 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 14:40 |
| willcooke | #topic oSoMoN | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | hey | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • approved https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gdm/language-switching/+merge/331980 | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • continued discussing bug #1718446 and proposed a patch that got accepted upstream, now preparing a SRU to land it asap after release | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718446 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Ensure wayland -> xorg fallback to the corresponding session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718446 | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • managed to get chromium 62 (current beta, to become stable this week) to build on trusty amd64 and i386 with a backported clang 4.0 and a rather manageable distro patch, looking into armhf failure (linker OOM it seems) | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • updating chromium dev to 63.0.3236.7 | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • some progress on bug #1697641, a11y was working in chromium at some point in the not too distant past, but it regressed − even then, OSK was not working so some more work will be required | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1697641 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium doesn't open OSK under GNOME Shell" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1697641 | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | • gotta prepare libreoffice 5.4.2 SRU as I didn't have time for it before final freeze | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | EOF | 14:40 |
| willcooke | thanks oSoMoN | 14:41 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: can we try to get the fix in proposed tomorrow? | 14:41 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, yes, on it | 14:41 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: so that we release it in -updates quickly after the release | 14:41 |
| didrocks | as it's for upgrades | 14:41 |
| didrocks | great! | 14:41 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 14:41 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - daily review of recent artful bugs and e.u.c reports | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - some iso testing | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - restored a part of the g-s-d patch dropped to fix the suspend on login issue (schemas still needed by u-s-d) | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - discussed dh_translations vs meson a bit with Didier | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - debugged/fixes outdated translations in launchpad on some projects due to translations sharing | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - backported a libimobiledevice ios11 fix | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - workarounded for duplicate items in the notifications panel in g-c-c | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - debugged apport not starting with andyrock | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - wrote an uncomplete patch for orca not starting in ubiquity describing the issue and how a fix could work, hopefully somebody from the ubiquity team pick up from there | 14:41 |
| seb128 | - did another g-s-d regression fix, thanks to a contributor who pointed the merge error | 14:41 |
| seb128 | </week> | 14:41 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 14:41 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 14:42 |
| tkamppeter | - UDEV/systemd: Further testing on the problem with the USB printer auto setup not working. Reported bug to systemd upstream but no answer yet. | 14:42 |
| tkamppeter | - ippusbxd: Updated documentation upstream (readme.md). | 14:42 |
| tkamppeter | - avahi: Rithvik already started studying the localhost support problem for IPP-over-USB. | 14:42 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 14:42 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 14:42 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 14:42 |
| willcooke | · Further fixes in the suggested-action button | 14:42 |
| willcooke | · Improvements to the inverted gradient on maximized windows | 14:42 |
| willcooke | · Lots of debugging in mutter and GS crashes | 14:42 |
| willcooke | (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786557, | 14:42 |
| willcooke | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782385, | 14:42 |
| willcooke | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788971) | 14:42 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 786557 in lock-screen "Input on lock-screen, gnome-shell crashes" [Critical,New] | 14:42 |
| willcooke | · Some refactoring in mutter MetaScreen in order to fix a major crash | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 782385 in Backend: X11 "X session crashes when undocking or switching off an external monitor" [Normal,New] | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788971 in wayland "gnome-shell crashed in meta_display_get_current_time_roundtrip on resume from suspend" [Major,Assigned] | 14:43 |
| willcooke | (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788860) | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788860 in general "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_workspace_get_work_area_for_monitor()" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 14:43 |
| willcooke | · Looking into a way to get better JS dumps on GS crashes (seems to work) | 14:43 |
| willcooke | · Currently debugging https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788627 | 14:43 |
| tkamppeter | And good news for a11y: Large mouse cursor is finally working (using gdm as greeter) congrats to who fixed it. | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788627 in general "Crash in gnome-shell blur_pixels(): failed to allocate 18446744072098939136 bytes" [Major,New] | 14:43 |
| willcooke | which | 14:43 |
| willcooke | I can reproduce (or similar | 14:43 |
| willcooke | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788908) | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788908 in st "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in clutter_actor_get_allocation_box (from _st_create_shadow_pipeline_from_actor)" [Normal,New] | 14:43 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 14:43 |
| willcooke | - Fix RC critical crash in gnome-software (LP: #1723312) | 14:43 |
| willcooke | - Fix async operation cancelling not working in snapd-glib | 14:43 |
| willcooke | - snapd-glib refactoring | 14:43 |
| willcooke | - simple-scan 3.27.1 releas | 14:43 |
| willcooke | #topic APB | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1723312 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:11:g_variant_is_trusted:g_variant_builder_add_value:g_variant_valist_new:g_variant_new_va:g_variant_new" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723312 | 14:43 |
| willcooke | Anyone got anything? | 14:44 |
| tkamppeter | And good news for a11y: Large mouse cursor is finally working (using gdm as greeter) congrats to who fixed it. | 14:44 |
| willcooke | ah, nice! Good spot tkamppeter, and thanks to whoever fixed it | 14:44 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, nice | 14:44 |
| jbicha | willcooke: did we want to discuss some bugs from http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html ? | 14:44 |
| willcooke | Yeah, lets take a look: | 14:44 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backintime/+bug/1713313 | 14:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1713313 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "Unable to launch pkexec'ed applications on Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:45 |
| tkamppeter | I have some vision problem and over the 20 years I used Unix/Linux the mouse cursor was always too small and never a way to get it bigger. | 14:45 |
| willcooke | I dont think there is much we can do about that bug for release is there? | 14:45 |
| jbicha | tkamppeter: :) | 14:45 |
| didrocks | I don't think we can, apart from the xhost arg, but I think it's a little bit counter-productive | 14:46 |
| jbicha | 1713313 is already release-noted | 14:46 |
| willcooke | ack | 14:46 |
| seb128 | right, -notfixing imho | 14:46 |
| didrocks | and then, we can take that into account for the LTS plan | 14:46 |
| jbicha | maybe there's a way in 18.04 we could notify the user *why* the pkexec app doesn't work at the time it's attempted | 14:47 |
| willcooke | +1, what's the correct tag? rls-aa-notfixing - or is there something more desktop team specific we can use? | 14:47 |
| willcooke | +1 was at notfixing | 14:47 |
| didrocks | jbicha: for those using pkexec, but doesn't work for the traditional "sudo nautilus" that people do | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I think that's the correct one | 14:47 |
| willcooke | k, next.. | 14:48 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-ugly1.0/+bug/1723599 | 14:48 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1723599 in gst-plugins-ugly1.0 (Ubuntu) "Fails to associate decoder-video/x-ms-asf with gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly" [Undecided,New] | 14:48 |
| seb128 | that's just a bug, nothing important for the release | 14:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ you might know where to reassign/what component might get it wrong? | 14:48 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie/+bug/1720331 is already assigned to jamesh | 14:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1720331 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Whoopsie continually relaunching" [Low,Triaged] | 14:49 |
| seb128 | is that still using the Gstreamer-Decoders info from the package description? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | willcooke, that one is probably -notfixing since jamesh fixed the issue in whoopsie, the control center side is nice to land but not an important issue at this point | 14:50 |
| willcooke | yeah | 14:50 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupd/+bug/1717009 | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1717009 in fwupd (Ubuntu) "fwupd breaking access to certain usb devices" [High,In progress] | 14:50 |
| willcooke | fixed upstream | 14:50 |
| Laney | dunno | 14:50 |
| Laney | would have to dig | 14:50 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1707898 | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1707898 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd translations are not synced with upstream" [Critical,New] | 14:51 |
| willcooke | we're being pinged on that one by x_nox | 14:51 |
| seb128 | willcooke, the fwupd is foundations and has been fixed upstream | 14:51 |
| seb128 | right, I've the systemd one in a tab, I'm going to comment after the meeting | 14:51 |
| willcooke | thx | 14:51 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1710377 | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1710377 in software-properties (Ubuntu) ""Additional Drivers" desktop shortcut missing in Ubuntu 17.10" [Low,New] | 14:52 |
| willcooke | seb128 has already updated | 14:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, k, well you did the switch to g-s for codecs install so you might have an idea where to look, if you want to do that when there is a more quiet time post release that would be nice | 14:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, right | 14:52 |
| Laney | ok | 14:52 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:52 |
| jbicha | the Additional Drivers bug is won't fix for artful, right? | 14:52 |
| Laney | feel free to assign me | 14:52 |
| willcooke | k, I think that's the end of the list | 14:52 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well at least for release, wouldn't be impossible to SRU if we think it's worth | 14:53 |
| jbicha | thoughts on LP: #1707352 ? should we release-note it? | 14:53 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1707352 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 | 14:53 |
| didrocks | any reason it's missing? it's just an oversight, correct? | 14:53 |
| didrocks | (we didn't really test it, but I don't think it had been broken?) | 14:53 |
| jbicha | didrocks: my comment on the bugs says that the current icon will look bad in vanilla GNOME | 14:54 |
| seb128 | jbicha, that seems unfortunate :-/ did you talk to robert about it? | 14:54 |
| jbicha | seb128: no but I can ask him later | 14:54 |
| didrocks | jbicha: hum, indeed, but the functionality is still important in some ways… I guess if we balance that with the icon look… | 14:54 |
| jbicha | didrocks: but at this point it's a user interface change so I'm suggesting we fix the !Humanity icon too if we're going to do an SRU | 14:56 |
| czajkowski | c | 14:56 |
| Laney | cockatrice | 14:57 |
| willcooke | vowel please Carol | 14:57 |
| didrocks | yes, fair enough, we'll need someone to have icon design experience then | 14:57 |
| willcooke | kk, let's wrap the meeting (since meeting ology isnt running it doesnt really make any difference) | 14:58 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| willcooke | Please carry on if you need to though | 14:58 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:59 |
| didrocks | thx! | 14:59 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I thought the faenza 'jockey' icon looked good when I looked a year ago but I never got a reply from Matthieu James when I asked him about re-using it | 14:59 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 14:59 |
| didrocks | jbicha: when did you ask, recently? | 15:00 |
| jbicha | I emailed him @canonical.com Aug 18 2016 and @gmail a few days ago | 15:01 |
| jbicha | I don't know if he left Canonical at some point so maybe didn't get the first email? | 15:01 |
| tkamppeter | Anyone already has copied MP3 (or Music in general) to an Android phone with Artful? | 15:02 |
| jibel | I didn't but saw a recent report about a crash of mtp | 15:03 |
| didrocks | jbicha: he isn't around anymore, but he was still here in 2016, I don't know more than you how to reach him though | 15:03 |
| didrocks | what license is faenza? | 15:03 |
| jbicha | it appeared to be GPL-3+ so that's why I asked. (software-properties is GPL-2+). I think we could probably use the icon without re-licensing though, right? | 15:04 |
| jibel | tkamppeter, why are you asking? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | there is a gvfsd-mtp segfault high on artful e.u.c report | 15:05 |
| jibel | tkamppeter, bug 1724075 bug 1723815 | 15:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1724075 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfsd-mtp crashed with SIGSEGV in __strlen_avx2()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724075 | 15:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1723815 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Unable to show files on MTP connection" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723815 | 15:05 |
| tkamppeter | jibel, I get mtp crashes a lot, not on my attempts to tranfer music (it simply says that it cannot write onto the phone) but on connecting/disconnecting(?) the phone. | 15:05 |
| seb128 | but I've been replacing the binary by a wrapper under valgrind for a few weeks and don't error | 15:05 |
| seb128 | bug #1718694 | 15:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718694 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp:11:unregister_mount_got_proxy_cb:g_task_return_now:g_task_return:init_second_async_cb:g_task_return_now" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718694 | 15:06 |
| seb128 | k, need to go/move location, back in a bit | 15:06 |
| tkamppeter | jibel, thanks, looks like a feature which we have to skip in Artful. Or is there some special trick/workaround. | 15:07 |
| jibel | honestly it seems in a bad shape. something to fix for 18.04 and SRU if possible | 15:09 |
| tkamppeter | jibel, so I think the best is to ask seb128 how to apply his workaround with valgrind. | 15:10 |
| didrocks | jbicha: thanks for the mail! I don't have a strong opinion on it, need to think about this with a fresh brain | 15:13 |
| jbicha | didrocks: take your time, the underlying issue has been there for years already ;) | 15:14 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 15:16 |
| jbicha | I worked around it for Ubuntu GNOME and forgot about it until I saw the new bug | 15:20 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, what did you exactly do with Valgrind to work around the mtp crash bugs. | 15:22 |
| tkamppeter | ? | 15:23 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, which binary did you replace by a Valgrind wrapper and how did you call Valgrind for that? Can you send me your wrapper script? | 15:33 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, well maybe I don't know how to trigger the bug, but what I did was basically | 15:41 |
| seb128 | - sudo mv /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp.bin | 15:41 |
| seb128 | - sudo editor /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp | 15:42 |
| seb128 | with that content | 15:42 |
| seb128 | #!/bin/sh | 15:42 |
| seb128 | export G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly | 15:42 |
| seb128 | valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=no --log-file=/tmp/gvfs.%p /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp.bin $@ | 15:42 |
| seb128 | - sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp | 15:42 |
| seb128 | then restarted the session | 15:42 |
| seb128 | and it logs files in /tmp/gvfs.<pid> | 15:42 |
| seb128 | if you get an error you should have an invalid read/write | 15:43 |
| seb128 | better if you have a dbg of gvfs | 15:43 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, what do you do to trigger the issue? | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, first thanks for the hint, applied the commands. Before restarting my session I will answer your question. | 15:47 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, in fact you don't need to restart the session I think | 15:47 |
| seb128 | if gvfsd-mtp hit the bug it will close and restart a new instance | 15:48 |
| seb128 | try and see if you get a log in /tmp | 15:48 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, gvfsd-mtp crashes practically always when I disconnect the phone, and this happened often to me, charging the phone's battery with my laptop. | 15:49 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Now I also want to transfer music files and here I always get errors that I cannot write on the device, with both GNOME File Manager and Rhythmbox. | 15:51 |
| tkamppeter | Not yet restarted the session and still cannot write to my device. | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | Will restart the session now. | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, No gvfs-mtp process and also no appropriate log file in /tmp | 16:02 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Sorry, valgrind was not installed, one moment please. | 16:04 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, after installing valgrind, replugging the device and starting rhythmbox the device appears again. | 16:08 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, and when I copy a music file to it I do not get an error message any more that I cannot write to the device, but the music file does not appear on the device. | 16:10 |
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| tkamppeter | seb128, here is the log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25760200/ | 16:13 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, will try to restart again. | 16:15 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, restarted the machine, unlocked the screen of the device and on the device I tried once "MTP" and once"Media device USB 3.0" and in both cases I get "Could not transfer track, could not open resource for writing". | 16:21 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, new log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25760249/ | 16:23 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, and another: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25760262/ | 16:27 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, cheers | 16:48 |
| Laney | cheers to you | 16:49 |
| Laney | I looked a bit for how to fix that no session selected issue | 16:50 |
| Laney | would be annoying | 16:50 |
| oSoMoN | yeah | 16:59 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, you have errors in there but no dbg, can you install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym and maybe do a DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip build from gvfs and copy that non stripped binary as gvfsd-mtp.bin? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | ==5038== by 0x53B3F3D: ??? (in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0.5400.1) | 17:01 |
| seb128 | ==5038== by 0x539193F: g_content_type_guess (in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0.5400.1) | 17:01 |
| seb128 | ==5038== by 0x10E3B4: ??? (in /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-mtp.bin) | 17:01 |
| Laney | night! | 17:03 |
| oSoMoN | g’night Laney | 17:03 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I've prepared source packages at https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/bug1718446/, can you upload them for me? I'll prepare the SRU paperwork after dinner | 17:05 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, how do I install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym, "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym" does not work. | 17:08 |
| jbicha | tkamppeter: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages ? | 17:11 |
| tkamppeter | jbicha, thanks | 17:12 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:22 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, jbicha: Everything installed as you asked for. restarting. | 17:37 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25760647/ | 17:44 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, jbicha: same error, new log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25760647/ | 17:45 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, jbicha: Also this crash happened during my tests: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1724323 | 17:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1724323 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "memcheck-amd64-linux crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
| amano | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1723619 is not my issue. I tried the new kernel with the revert and it took me again 3 reboots to have GDM starting up. | 18:04 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1723619 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Desktop ISO fails to boot with nouveau on a displayport" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:04 |
| amano | uname -r | 18:04 |
| amano | 4.14.0-rc5-lp1723619+revert | 18:04 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_, thanks for the new log, that has debug infos indeed | 18:45 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, yw, hope that it brings us closer to the cause of the problem. This also an important feature. | 18:51 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, please subscribe me to the bug report in which you will handle this so that I can test the fix to verify the SRU. | 18:53 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_, sure, did you report the gvfs segfault to launchpad/using apport? | 19:03 |
| tkamppeter_ | No, the segfault which I reported was on valgrind (or somethin underlying). | 19:05 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, bug 1724323 | 19:05 |
| ubot5 | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1724323 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724323). The error has been logged | 19:05 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_ it might be useful to report the gvfs one if you have a report in /var/crash | 19:06 |
| Tribaal | hi all, what is the canonical way to install the nvidia drivers in 17.10? I'm writing some kind of tutorial for end users, so I was going to suggest the "additional drivers" thing but I can't seem to find it? | 19:06 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, Services asked for by UDEV do not get triggered | 19:06 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, sorry, [Bug 1724323] [NEW] memcheck-amd64-linux crashed with SIGSEGV | 19:06 |
| ubot5 | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1724323 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724323). The error has been logged | 19:06 |
| Tribaal | (that's to workaround a nouveau bug in 17.10) | 19:08 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, today I did not a crash report of gvfs-mtp but otherwise I got one nearly every day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1706097 and duplicates. | 19:08 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1706097 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfsd-mtp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:08 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_, thanks | 19:09 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_, do you know what steps you take to trigger the segfault? does it happen just when you plug your phone? or unlock it? | 19:09 |
| tkamppeter_ | seb128, but for these I did not try to copy anything to my phone. AFAIK they were triggered by connecting/disconnecting the phone for charging its battery. | 19:09 |
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| tkamppeter | seb128, the report happened delayed, usually after next boot, so I cannot really know whether the trigger was connect, disconnect, or unlock. | 19:11 |
| seb128 | ok | 19:11 |
| seb128 | you might be able to tell from the time recorded in the crash | 19:12 |
| seb128 | Tribaal, it's in software-properties, is bug #1710377 what is confusing you? | 19:26 |
| ubot5 | bug 1710377 in software-properties (Ubuntu) ""Additional Drivers" desktop shortcut missing in Ubuntu 17.10" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710377 | 19:26 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ maybe some data point | 19:26 |
| Tribaal | seb128: huh! Indeed I guess I was confused by this. I found "ubuntu-drivers" which nicely allowed me to have a CLI equivalent though. | 19:27 |
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| flocculant | jbicha: just saw someone in #ubuntu+1 commenting on gnome-terminal - seems f11 on terminal - repeatedly - leads to terminal shrinkage, https://i.imgur.com/oNZ4yi5.png < this was quite a bit of f11 on my part in a vm, just thought I'd pass that along | 20:51 |
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| Beret | I know there's a duplicate about this | 21:13 |
| Beret | we know that automatic timezone doesn't work in artful right? | 21:13 |
| Beret | I vaguely remember having a conversation about it already | 21:13 |
| Beret | probably at the rally | 21:13 |
| jbicha | Beret: LP: #1720829 is the only one I'm aware of, assuming you haven't turned off Settings>Privacy>Location Services | 21:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1720829 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Calendar shows wrong day (Sun. Oct. 2nd instead of Mon Oct. 2nd)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720829 | 21:26 |
| vithiri | Beret: "I vaguely remember" makes it sound like one awesome rally. | 21:31 |
| Beret | hahaha | 21:31 |
| Beret | I've probably had 300 meetings over the last few weeks - they tend to all run together | 21:32 |
| Beret | I forgot what was only in my head versus what was discussed | 21:32 |
| Beret | but yeah, it wasn't bad :) | 21:32 |
| vithiri | So, what's the issue with the automatic timezone? I recall having the correct timezone picked during installation. | 21:33 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: hi | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: hello | 21:34 |
| jbicha | thoughts on LP: #1707352 ? | 21:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1707352 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: I think we should roll back to the older libsane to not break things. | 21:54 |
| jbicha | so 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu4 instead? | 21:55 |
| jbicha | it's rather late for that kind of change… | 21:55 |
| jbicha | (sorry I didn't think to specifically ping you about this issue sooner) | 21:56 |
| robert_ancell | sane is a pain in that they don't do releases. | 21:57 |
| robert_ancell | Yeah, but I guess it has to work with third party drivers since they are commonly used. | 21:57 |
| jbicha | are you sure they don't? http://www.sane-project.org/ | 21:58 |
| jbicha | what about just adding Provides: libsane ? | 21:58 |
| jbicha | I had trouble getting the Debian maintainer to respond to my comments :( | 21:59 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: afaict the sane maintainers are effectively Debian. | 22:00 |
| robert_ancell | If the provides works then do that I guess? You probably know more about this than me. | 22:00 |
| robert_ancell | I've looked at updating the sane-backends package a number of times but it's too hard given upstreams lack of clarity. | 22:01 |
| jbicha | they use Alioth but it looks like sane upstream is different than the Debian packager | 22:03 |
| jbicha | https://anonscm.debian.org/git/sane/sane-backends.git/ | 22:03 |
| jbicha | packaging: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/sane-backends.git | 22:03 |
| robert_ancell | oh, ok | 22:04 |
| jbicha | I don't have a scanner, PeterPall suggests that adding the Provides might work for any scanner drivers distributed as a .deb | 22:06 |
| jbicha | I don't know how common that is | 22:07 |
| jbicha | he suggested that at https://bugs.debian.org/870078 and no real response from the Debian maintainer :( | 22:07 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 870078 in libsane1 "libsane1 breaks all 3rd party scanner drivers" [Important,Open] | 22:07 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: I think there are drivers delivered by debs | 22:09 |
| jbicha | do you have any hardware like that? | 22:09 |
| * robert_ancell looks | 22:09 | |
| jbicha | I'm just wondering how we would verify that an SRU to add the Provides would help for real-world cases | 22:10 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: I'm looking at the brscan package (http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfcj5620dw_us_eu&os=128) | 22:12 |
| robert_ancell | which is what my scanner uses. | 22:12 |
| robert_ancell | Looks like it doesn't have a specific dependency on libsane | 22:12 |
| robert_ancell | But the provides seems like a reasonable thing to do if the package has renamed but is otherwise identical? | 22:12 |
| jbicha | sane-backends/zesty's libsane had libsane.so.1.0.25 and artful's libsane1 has libsane.so.1.0.27 so it seems like the Provides makes sense | 22:15 |
| jbicha | I guess the Debian maintainer just wanted to fix the Lintian warning package-name-doesnt-match-sonames | 22:15 |
| jbicha | :( | 22:15 |
| jbicha | I'll prepare an SRU and hope the SRU Team doesn't mind the difficulty in verifying the fix | 22:16 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: you're probably right about the lintian warning :) | 22:18 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: uploaded to artful/unapproved and figured out a test case | 22:31 |
| jbicha | thanks for the help :) | 22:32 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: nice work! | 22:32 |
| ignoo | hello, running ubuntu GNOME 16.04, have some issue with ubuntu ArtfulAardvark: https://pastebin.com/W1tBbqpq . Thank you for your support. | 23:38 |
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