[05:49] <vlt> alkisg, nemo: I had already tried (and mentioned) iconv before. It doesn't complain. `echo $?` is 0
[05:50] <vlt> libreoffice shows only Gdk-WARNINGs on the command line.
[05:52] <vlt> pluma: "** (pluma:20260): WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 34 (Incomplete multibyte sequence in input) in parse_error."
[05:57] <vlt> I doublechecked in Python again: data.decode("utf8") works without raising an exception.
[06:00] <alkisg> vlt: did you configure pluma to use iso8859-15 instead of utf8?
[06:00] <alkisg> Can you pinpoint the line that causes the problem?
[06:00] <alkisg> E.g. cut half of the file, then again the other half etc, binary search, until you pinpoint the line
[06:01] <alkisg> It shouldn't need more than 5-6 bisections...
[06:01] <alkisg> Then paste the line somewhere so that we can reproduce it
[06:08]  * vlt does that.
[06:16] <vlt> alkisg: Looks like pluma chokes on a \x00
[06:16] <alkisg> vlt: text files don't contain that :)
[06:16] <alkisg> that's binary
[06:17] <vlt> "binary"
[06:17] <vlt> :-D
[06:19] <vlt> What does "binary" mean here? Is \x09 binary, too?
[06:25] <alkisg> No, it's text
[06:25] <alkisg> tab, space etc are text
[10:36] <mate|53213> a
[12:58] <krishnakarkera> hi
[12:58] <krishnakarkera> waassup
[13:13] <andreas_> hi
[13:24] <nemo> bye
[13:25] <nemo> alkisg: \x00 is definitely invalid utf-8
[13:26] <nemo> if python is accepting that they are not validating
[13:26] <nemo> it would kinda have to be invalid utf-8 or C strings would be in trouble 😉
[13:27] <nemo> well is invalid ascii too 😉
[13:27] <nemo> (for strings)
[13:29] <nemo> eh... I guess the python is just doing encoding validation, not validating that they are C-safe strings
[13:29] <nemo> hm... why would pluma care about this...
[13:29]  * nemo makes a test file
[13:30] <nemo> lol
[13:30] <nemo> I tried test^@test
[13:30] <nemo> pluma thought it was... UTF-16 I guess
[13:31] <nemo> generated something that looks like a mashup of CJK but unselectable and uncopyable
[13:32] <nemo> hm...
[13:32] <nemo> 2nd attempt w/ more utf-8. same result. RIGHT let's try putting a null inside some larger UTF-8 text file.
[13:34] <nemo> ah-hah. finally
[13:34] <nemo> had to copy a whole article off of lemonde.fr and insert a null in the middle of it ☺
[13:35] <nemo> at that point it did in fact fail validation
[13:35] <nemo> or at least fail detection
[13:35] <nemo> similar issues with "file" command
[13:35] <nemo> $ file test
[13:35] <nemo> test: UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines
[13:36] <nemo> (prior to the null
[13:36] <nemo> )
[13:36] <nemo> after the null is just test: data
[13:36] <nemo> wouldn't surprise me if pluma's using same underlying lib
[13:38] <nemo> heh. found an annoyed HN commenter a while ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3906755
[13:38] <nemo> but, eh, in a text editor this isn't totally illogical to me
[13:55] <nemo> also invalid XML actually and probably invalid in a fair # of other text formats
[13:57] <alkisg> nemo: it was vlt that had the issue, not me :)
[14:36] <nemo> ah
[15:23] <sigurdson> hiya i am at the ubuntu-mate.communnity site but i cannot find "post new" anywhere?
[15:30] <sigurdson> Ok, i will ask here.. I had a power down in my house and i had to connect 1 and 1 drive to get them to work.. I am worried that some of the internal parts has fault, allthough i dont know.. That is why i need some linux tools to help me. Checking the drive state on my harddrives, my motherboard graphic card and RAM. Anyone know what tools i should use?
[15:30] <Wreckedzador> (1) This is indeed a support channel :)
[15:30] <Wreckedzador> (2) Did you run a fsck?
[15:31] <sigurdson> I just asked how to post things on the community but i got no awnser :)
[15:38] <nemo> hm
[15:39] <nemo> oh well maybe he'll be back
[18:38] <swift1102> Hey guys
[19:26] <swift1102> sup folks
[20:05] <arch_n00b> this channel is used for frequent questions, correct?
[20:55] <sixwheeledbeast> He'll be back tomorrow.
[23:03] <Dekkard> what is the current LTS?
[23:24] <fernando> boa noite a todos
[23:25] <fernando> alguem pode me informar como faço para instalar o realplayer no ubuntu
[23:32] <tsimonq2> !es
[23:32] <tsimonq2> fernando: :)