[01:42] <deeno> I have questions about kde/plasma and wayland. are they working together yet?
[01:45] <mparillo> I do not know personally, but I think generally good enough for testing purposes, so long as you do not have Nvidia graphics
[01:53] <valorie> deeno: yes-ish, if you are not using wayland
[01:54] <valorie> you can regard it as a testing environment still, however
[01:54] <valorie> all of new plasma development is first tested on wayland, and not released until it's working
[02:23] <stin> how do i connect to a different network?
[02:35] <valorie> stin, you mean a different IRC network?
[02:35] <valorie> because that depends on your client
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:27] <taufiq123> Can You Update KDE 5.11 Plasma
[08:32] <Runawaysheld123> Hello\
[08:33] <Runawaysheld123> Hello
[09:06] <Maakuth> have you people seen this sort of color scheming? https://shell.wilan.org/~markuz/libo-color-scheme.png
[09:07] <Maakuth> i have kubuntu 16.04 with kde packages from the ppa
[09:08] <ForceRecon> good morning everyone
[09:09] <ForceRecon> day two of nightly build 17.10 :) going wellish.. gonna rebuild one more time to get identity correct.. I noticed 267 running processes.  Seems like a lot..
[09:11] <hateball> That's normal
[09:11] <ForceRecon> man you are up early too.. nice to see you mate
[09:12] <ForceRecon> when i click on my drive I also get this - An error occurred while accessing '476.2 GiB Encrypted Drive', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem' on object at path /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/dm_2d0
[09:13] <hateball> ForceRecon: Well, timezones are a thing, so it's not so early here ;)
[09:14] <hateball> ForceRecon: In Dolphin?
[09:14] <ForceRecon> yes
[09:18] <hateball> I dont have any experience with encrypted disks, so I don't know if Dolphin is supposed to handle them
[09:23] <hateball> ForceRecon: Googling suggests that if it's LUKS you need to open the volume from cli before you can access it in Dolphin
[09:23] <hateball> ForceRecon: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=132494
[09:28] <ForceRecon> hateball: what's weird is usually I see the drives based on swap, grub, and all available.. in kubuntu I see a 731 Mib drive that is grub, a 476.2 Gib which is encrypyted and sprouts the error in dolphin but I still the see the stuff and a 460.2 GiB Hard Drive as well that does not indicate Encryption
[09:29] <ForceRecon> actually when you click on the encrypted drive it just shows you what was in the last folder or drive you clicked on
[09:29] <ForceRecon> anyhow, gonna rebuild the machine again.. see if anything changes based on installation tactic.
[09:30] <ForceRecon> but so far it has been pretty awesome.. not to thrilled about the integration of all that kmail stuff with calendars and memos and stuff.. a lot of things I don't need but are just running
[09:30] <hateball> You can disable akonadi if you so desire
[09:31] <hateball> "akonadictl stop"
[09:31] <ForceRecon> what side effects will that have
[09:32] <ForceRecon> will kmail still function?
[09:32] <ForceRecon> I need a mail client and would like to keep it default
[09:32] <hateball> Hmm, that's more than I know, actually
[09:32] <hateball> That will probably break it
[09:33] <ForceRecon> I kinda thought the same.. okeeedo.. gonna rebuild, be back I hope in a little while..
[09:33] <ForceRecon> thanks boss
[09:34] <hateball> ForceRecon: anyhow, as for the drives, the last post here explains it https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/4wvo6t/luks_encrypted_flash_drive_unlocks_but_dolphin/
[09:37] <ForceRecon> shouldnt the installer know to do that when you encrypt the drive?
[09:37] <ForceRecon> or from that reading... is this already correct?
[09:38] <ForceRecon> I understand it but its just a bit over my head.. so unsure if it is working correctly or something I need to fix during installation
[09:38] <hateball> It is working correctly
[09:38] <hateball> It is just that Dolphin has no way of unlocking the encrypted block device and map to partitions
[09:38] <ForceRecon> okeedo.. I just won't click on it.. :)
[09:39] <ForceRecon> bbiab.. thanks again
[09:39] <hateball> ForceRecon: so what you see as 476 is the "drive" and the 460 is an unlocked partition
[09:39] <ForceRecon> correct.. I kinda felt that way.. just was not sure why it was doing it and showing it to me
[09:40] <ForceRecon> talk later.... thanks
[10:59] <ForceRecon> hello all
[11:01] <ForceRecon> well reinstalled.. but I still cannot boot properly.. I have to do a recovery mode, then choose to use resume normal then the reboot works and I get in using nvidia.. If I just boot it comes up with lvm password request LARGER then usual and you cannot type in the box. I have to reset the computer using the reset button
[11:02] <ForceRecon> oh and wireless is asking for a gnu pgp usage of the wallet but I don't have any keys.. How do I get a key
[11:02] <hateball> ForceRecon: are you using UEFI?
[11:03] <ForceRecon> I am pretty sure that the bios is UEFI yes, nice graphical interface..
[11:03] <hateball> I suppose the nvidia blob is installed properly, guess you got a question to set a password to disable the shim module verification?
[11:04] <hateball> if you enabled installing drivers during install
[11:04] <ForceRecon> I did enable installing driver during install..
[11:04] <hateball> anyhows, I dont use FDE myself so I dont know what issues one run into there
[11:05] <ForceRecon> every time the machine starts it wants to connect to wireless, but always asks for me to save the password in a wallet using pgp
[11:05] <hateball> nvidia blob doesnt have a proper KMS driver so that's why it doesnt look right until you get into X
[11:05] <ForceRecon> when I try it says that I don't have any keys yet and I need to set up a key
[11:05] <hateball> hmmmm
[11:05] <ForceRecon> yeah I knew it was a video issue, but to not be able to type, kinda sux..
[11:06] <hateball> ForceRecon: if you alt+f2 -> type kwallet -> go into the managment, does it ask you anything?
[11:06] <ForceRecon> if I could just put in the password it might move along
[11:06] <hateball> ForceRecon: well that bug with not being able to type should have been fixed a while back
[11:06] <hateball> ForceRecon: which version of the driver is it? I use nvidia ppa so I am not sure what is repo default
[11:07] <ForceRecon> KDE wallet config or manager does not ask for anything if I launch them
[11:07] <ForceRecon> since I am already connected to the wireless and clicked cancel I don't think it will ask again
[11:08] <ForceRecon> as far as nvidia goes it is using..   please hold
[11:08] <ForceRecon> 4.5.0 Nvidia 384.90
[11:09] <hateball> yeah should certainly be fixed there
[11:09] <hateball> then umm... I dont really know
[11:09] <ForceRecon> where is the interface to see what optional drivers are in use like the wireless and the option for nouveau or nvidia along with the intel firmware I think
[11:09] <ForceRecon> where is that gui
[11:10] <hateball> alt+f2 -> driver
[11:13] <ForceRecon> https://i.imgur.com/ofz5cnb.jpg
[11:14] <ForceRecon> can you see that or is it too small
[11:14] <hateball> ForceRecon: yeah that looks
[11:14] <hateball> good
[11:14] <ForceRecon> so where do I get the key for the wallet to save the password for the wireless or can I just turn off the KDE wallet subsystem
[11:15] <ForceRecon> and it won't ask for a key anymore?
[11:15] <hateball> weeeeeeeeell you can disable kwallet... but that seems terrible unless you dont like password managment
[11:15] <hateball> there's also the option of saving the network as available systemwide, then it gets saved to an encrypted file in /etc, so no need for your wallet :p
[11:16] <ForceRecon> where do you normally get this key?
[11:16] <ForceRecon> strange it would ask for one and not let you create one
[11:16] <hateball> I can't recall ever seeing such a question
[11:18] <hateball> ForceRecon: do you see any wallet at all in the kwallet manager?
[11:19] <ForceRecon_> https://i.imgur.com/OL8P1L9.jpg
[11:19] <ForceRecon_> every time I connect to a wireless network I get that message
[11:21] <ForceRecon_> test
[11:21] <ForceRecon_> oh.. heh
[11:21] <hateball> ForceRecon_: oh!
[11:21] <hateball> ForceRecon_: well you just... follow through the wizard :p
[11:22] <hateball> to setup a wallet
[11:22] <ForceRecon_> yeah it asks for a key and no wizard shows up.. just says hey.. you need a key.. make one
[11:22] <hateball> ForceRecon_: well, just go with blowfish for now then
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> Ill play around, because each time I try... I lose the room.. I will be back after more testing.. :)  Thanks man
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> ttyl
[11:23] <hateball> otherwise you manually need to make a GPG key and store it somewhere safe I guess
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> yeah how do you make a gpg key
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> where is the wizard..
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> :D
[11:23] <ForceRecon_> I could use terminal
[11:24] <ForceRecon_> rather like the wizard..
[11:28] <hateball> ForceRecon_: hmmm, seems kwallet-pam only supports blowfish anyhow
[11:28] <hateball> ForceRecon_: which means that if you set it up using anything else, it wont unlock the wallet when you login
[11:33] <ForceRecon_> good to know..
[11:34] <ForceRecon_> I will use blowfish then.. until well that changes :)
[11:34] <ForceRecon_> thanks for the good info
[11:34] <ForceRecon_> bbiab
[11:34] <ForceRecon_> hey what are using to chat? what program
[11:34] <ForceRecon_> I like polari, but anything you can suggest
[11:34] <hateball> Me? I use Quassel now
[11:34] <hateball> At home I use irssi
[11:35] <ForceRecon_> I really loved quassel... but it was a pain some times.. polari.. if you have not checked it out, do so.. its pretty slick, simple and nicely done..
[11:35] <ForceRecon_> bbiab
[11:38] <ForceRecon> whodat
[11:38] <ForceRecon> okay back in business
[11:47] <ForceRecon> Okay.. Wireless is taken care of I think..
[11:49] <Guest37987> the top bar of my windows and my apps are black.. very hard to read.. How do I change that to a lighter color?
[11:50] <hateball> !screenshot | Guest37987
[12:16] <sonofa> anyone know what the network is that #polari is on?  I thought it was OFTC
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:29] <ForceRecon> it's more likely that the theme you are using isn't handling split headerbars correctly
[12:29] <ForceRecon> can anyone confirm this?
[12:30] <ForceRecon> Hey BluesKaj
[12:30] <ForceRecon> total rebuild on kubuntu...  today.. having some issues, working them out
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hi ForceRecon
[13:01] <ForceRecon> Hey BluesKaj I was being helped earlier, but we could not figure it out.. maybe since I am using a nightly build it might change by tomorrow.. but having issues with nvidia as default when I reboot.. It just will not reboot I have to go in in recovery mode and then resume normal to get past lvm encryption
[13:06] <hateball> ForceRecon: are you sure that it doesnt accept input btw?
[13:07] <hateball> ForceRecon: iirc the bug was that it didnt show anything being input, but it still worked
[13:07] <hateball> for unlocking luks, that is
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I don't use lvm or encryption so I can't answer
[13:08] <hateball> ForceRecon: I see some people have it working by disabling 'quiet splash' in grub also
[13:09] <BluesKaj> yes quiet splash  or nomodest
[13:09] <ForceRecon> disable quiet splash and type and hit enter and just wait.. see what happens.. Gonna try it now..  I can disable quiet splash by 'e' correct?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> err nomodeset
[13:10] <BluesKaj> yes 'e'
[13:10] <ForceRecon> okay.. bbiab
[13:10] <ForceRecon> thanks
[13:21] <BluesKaj> hmm, doesn't look good, it's over 10mins
[13:25] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[13:29] <ForceRecon> stupid programs keep locking me out of freenode
[13:29] <ForceRecon> have to keep coming back and releasing myself to get back oni
[13:30] <ForceRecon> I took a photo of the location of where I need to edit.. but I am working on putting on this pc.. so I can add it to imgur and then ask you what exactly to edit so I don't crash the entire machine
[13:32] <ForceRecon> is there any way in kubuntu to see images icons as thumbnails..
[13:32] <ForceRecon> this trying to figure out what image is which is a real pain in the you know what
[13:41] <hateball> ForceRecon: in dolphin? sure
[13:41] <hateball> you have a button to toggle previews up top
[13:44] <ForceRecon> https://i.imgur.com/ctFiOBq.jpg
[13:45] <ForceRecon> what do I modify pretty please..
[13:45] <ForceRecon> the typing the password without seeing it type did not work
[13:49] <D0U91E> morning folks
[13:49] <D0U91E> morning folks
[13:50] <ForceRecon> morning
[13:50] <ForceRecon> :D
[13:50] <D0U91E> :)
[13:50] <hateball> ForceRecon: you see the line with ro quiet splash and so on, just remove the 'quiet splash' bit
[13:50] <ForceRecon> any required amount of spaces between anything
[13:50] <hateball> well, one
[13:50] <hateball> but nothing breaks if you have two
[13:51] <ForceRecon> okeedo.. here I go again..
[13:57] <ForceRecon> that did nothing as it did not save it
[13:58] <ForceRecon> it bascially says edit then f10 to boot..
[13:58] <ForceRecon> taking out no splash does exactly what recovery mode did and a resume
[13:58] <ForceRecon> hmmmm..
[13:59] <hateball> ForceRecon: so taking out quiet splash did not allow you to boot and enter the password?
[14:00] <hateball> If it *did* allow you to boot as expected, make the change permanent
[14:00] <ForceRecon> yeah, exactly what I did when I clicked recovery mode.. but it does not save it so the next time I have to do it again, or I can modify grub and always see all the text on boot and only put the password in once
[14:00] <hateball> ForceRecon: Yes, sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[14:01] <ForceRecon> I guess I have no choice.. you think it will ever be fixed?
[14:01] <hateball> ForceRecon: then on GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= you remove quiet splash from inside ""
[14:01] <hateball> ForceRecon: No
[14:01] <ForceRecon> well why not.. its a problem
[14:01] <hateball> nVidia dont seem too keen on fixing their drivers
[14:02] <hateball> after you remove it, you run "sudo update-grub" to regenerate the grub.cfg
[14:03] <ForceRecon> bbiab
[14:03] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, also after installing the nightly build your default gpu driver is now the open source nouveau, you'll have to use the driver manager to install the recommended driver unless you know which proprietary driver to use
[14:03] <hateball> that's already done BluesKaj
[14:03] <ForceRecon> it is actually using nvidia as the driver
[14:03] <hateball> that's what causing this issue in the first place
[14:04] <ForceRecon> but good call
[14:04] <hateball> as nvidia blob as no proper KMS support and cant show a tty
[14:04] <ForceRecon> yeah nouveau was working fine other than complaining all the time
[14:04] <hateball> working fine as long as you dont want to play any other games than kpat :p
[14:05] <ForceRecon> and then change nvidia fixed that, but here we are.. I have to work out somethings here.. this password to use the wifi every time is a pain in the ass..
[14:05] <hateball> ForceRecon: didnt you set it up with blowfish?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> make sure you have dkms installed, quite sure it's default on 'buntus now
[14:05] <ForceRecon> I am not able to delete or manage my share SMB..
[14:05] <hateball> Through Dolphin? I recall it might try and use the wrong version of SMB
[14:06] <ForceRecon> and this video stuff,, and using preview in dolphin with images just make the thumbnail icon larger but does not display a thumbnail of the image
[14:06] <hateball> And there's some config you can change for that
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, also enable OpenGL 3.1
[14:06] <ForceRecon> I set it up with blowfish cause I don't have a key for the other one
[14:07] <ForceRecon> and now every time I boot it pops up asking for a password so that it can connect to the wifi, but not the wifi password, the password protecting blowfish
[14:07] <ForceRecon> craziness
[14:07] <hateball> that *should* all work automatically if this is a fresh install
[14:07] <ForceRecon> just did it 2 hours ago
[14:07] <ForceRecon> nothing else on this machine
[14:07] <hateball> log into your session with sddm, kwallet-pam should unlock the wallet
[14:08] <hateball> then again, I don't use encryption myself, so no idea how it might factor into all of this
[14:09] <ForceRecon> lunch time.. gonna do my best to keep this distro as I like it ALOT..  but I don't want to spend my time doing lots of work arounds either.. so.. gonna do some lunch, then come back and hit it hard.. learn something new
[14:09] <ForceRecon> thanks for all the help guys!
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