 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EBfwf2ob/file_1261.jpg I made a mock up design idea for uMatriks!
[00:02] <tgBot> twizzle2056 was added by: twizzle2056
 am i in right group to ask how i can flash ubuntu touch to an Acer Liquid Zest? I don't like Android. (thank Google Play Services for that)
 @twizzle2056, You'd have to port it to the device
 how
 and does Ubuntu Touch support MediaTek processors.
 You'd need to join the Halium group to get info about that me believes @UniversalSuperBox ?
 I don't get it
 Why is it so complicated.
 I just don't like Android..
 @wayneoutthere, This was amazing
 welp this was a joke
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1v0wffZ9/file_1263.jpg This is how ureadit looks
 @twizzle2056, What were you expecting Eugene?  Let us know maybe we can help
 @wayneoutthere, He left
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/b9bwbfnO/file_1265.jpg Then that's my umatriks concept, a few things seem a bit to small but seems P.good to me
 ok, asta la vista.  But let's take note of what happened in terms of onboarding.
 According to Telegram at least
 In another view it says he's here
 @PhoenixLandPirate, good work coach.  Keep pushing forward.  I like where this one is going.  Do we have a sub-team dedicated to makin this happen?
 @wayneoutthere, Thank you :) there are a few people working on the uMatriks app, so hopefully someone looks at it and runs with it :)
 @UniversalSuperBox, He's in this group not in the Fair phone group :)
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 @twizzle2056, If you don't like Android because of Google Play Lineage may be an option too if your device is supported
 @twizzle2056, Because smartphones suck and every device needs manual patching unlike desktops and so
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Looks like Riot kinda
 @PhoenixLandPirate, I like it very much. Thank you. Together with the changes from @delijati which he announced in https://matrix.to/#/#uMatriks:matrix.org , uMatriks is becoming a real usable app. Hopefully @larrea.mikel will find time soon to publish the next release.
 @KrisJacewicz, Agree. Another design for it would be great.
 @el_namor, Same here on my fp2. I noticed that device gets warm and drains battery randomly.
 @bastos777, That's what Snap/Flatpak/AppImage/etc. are for
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Nice mockup! Thank you!
 @bastos777, I forgot to mention @mariogrip and @DanChapman contributions for getting notifications for uMatriks. These pulls hopefully will aklso land in the next release.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Hmm now that I look at it: Wouldn´t that vertical tab style also perfectly match Telegram? =)
 @Flohack, Not really, because Telegram defaults to sorting on recency
 Riot has another design standard
 @Lorxu, You can sort in these tabs too. But it would be great to have kind of predefined and custom folders/tabs where I can sort my chats into. I have a big mess in Telegram, all are in one list and its hard to get organized
 But the horizontal one to filter all/groups/people would be great
 @Flohack, That's why I love how Riot does it
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5IYN73WdwiFUhxDOE7tpiuoYgm-VIExYjigjv0PeWxgZR0WomTdAn8SSNPNiG4Y-EkuV=h310-rw
 Although I prefer Chloe's mockup because I hate horizontal scrolling
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[07:55] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @twizzle2056, Hi, please visit www.ubports.com for more info, regarding your questions: no Acer is not yet supported, maybe with Halium in near future, and MediaTek is unfortunately not good idea, very closed
 I created an issue on github to track the progress of patching for KRACK
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 @PhoenixLandPirate, I thought it was 9gag
[08:49] <tgBot> Ernst Vaarties was added by: Ernst Vaarties
 @PhoenixLandPirate, nice!
[08:51] <tgBot> <Ernst Vaarties> Just listened to the Community update from 14 october. It was mentioned if the packages from the ubuntu store should be moved to the OpenStore. I would advice not do this, lot's of those packages are first time tries to make an Ubuntu Touch app and do not so much.
 @Ernst Vaarties, There were hundreds of very niche webapps. I would agree that most of those are no loss, especially when users can easily generate their own
 @bastos777, Not sure what i did? 😜
[09:06] <tgBot> <Ernst Vaarties> True. It would be great if generating and installing such a weapp could be made easier. I.e. make it possible installing them without the need to upload them to the shop.
[09:07] <tgBot> <Ernst Vaarties> For the apps that are usefull, most of them already are available in the openstore because they have active maintainers.
[09:08] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @DanChapman, Did not you develop and share your Dekko notification code? I
 @Ernst Vaarties, There is an app which does that. I don't remember it's name
[09:17] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/LSG80uik/file_1270.jpg
 @Milan Korecky, ❤️
 I like the app "dicer", but It seems nobody use it and it's going to disappear.
 @Milan Korecky, Haha! The clue is in the name 😎
[09:43] <tgBot> <Ernst Vaarties> @Milan Korecky, Tnx.
[09:48] <tgBot> <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> @Milan Korecky, CSS or JS injection is very needed for this kind of apps.
[09:51] <tgBot> <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> (Photo, 1260x798) https://irc.ubports.com/n0pDVbFc/file_1272.jpg
[09:52] <tgBot> <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> I have a question about RSS feed of UBports blog. Why I receive old posts as a new in some last days? Like one. I am using Feedly, maybe bug on their side.
[09:55] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Cesar_Herrera, Post it to openstore telegram group, they could maybe save it or try first to contact thet developer to move it from canonical server to openstore. 🙂
[09:56] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, I am not developer
[09:59] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, I can confirm, I was also suprised.  Let us ask @UniversalSuperBox , he may know more, but now he may be sleeping.
 @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, what do you mean? :/
 inject css or js into webpages
 in order to provide additional functionality and integrations
 oh into the webapps? I understood it for Webapp Creator itself...
 @Jujuyeh, add that functionality to the creator
 Anyway, we are working on some new great features 👍 Open an issue if you wish❤️ https://github.com/Jujuyeh/webapp-creator/issues
 @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, Gleb, pinging you
 @Ernst Vaarties, The plan is not to upload the entire Ubuntu Store as-is. There is a number of web-apps that it might not be worth to migrate (usage of deprecated frameworks, small userbase, or they just stopped working). On the other hand, there is some proprietary software that might have specific restrictions on distribution (e.g. I suspect "Panda Love" or "Don't Crash!" fall into this category). … We are building a list of packages that we 
[10:07] <tgBot> to have in OpenStore, based on their importance, their history (e.g. Falldown, 100balls or Neverball - the first games available on UT), or because we're missing such functionalities (e.g. we don't have an IRC client in the store). Dice roller apps are currently on our list, for instance. … Once we have a first draft, we will likely make the list publicly available, in order to get feedbacks from our community. We all want to be sure we won't miss anything bi
[10:07] <tgBot> are currently missing a maintainer, if there's someone who likes an app and would like to improve it, we encourage it. 🙂
 @Milan Korecky, Thanks
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/XMoQHLZR/file_1273
 (Photo, 640x1136) https://irc.ubports.com/dQ6Z6J6X/file_1275.jpg
 (Photo, 640x1136) https://irc.ubports.com/LuGgOxOH/file_1277.jpg
 Any chance to get something like that?
 scopes maybe?
 I know there is a post in the forum about the Today app
 it looks like scopes 😆
 Where do we translate "Flashlight" form the power indicator. I've been hunting on weblate, but no success? @Flohack . Thanks !
 No idea, probably it was hardcoded by the developer... @mariogrip ^^
 Humm, ok. Another question: the newer strings "Update settings" (on system-settings) is already translated a few weeks ago into European Portuguese, but until now remains in English. I'm on devel channel.
 @malditobastardo, scopes aligned vertically ™
 @vanyasem, 😺😺
 It would be nice to see some love for the scopes in the near future again
 They are very very useful
 I think my collision idea has some merit. Pinch weather and calendar together to see if it will rain at the football match
[12:06] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @malditobastardo, Agree with You, the developers commented to come with improved behavior if I remember well
 @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, No, I think it's the UBports RSS feed that is buggy. I'm on ttrss and I also receive old notifications when a new one is there...
 @Milan Korecky, Great to know. Thanks
 I'd love to see at least the Today Scope given some love. It is dependent, though, on opther scopes (weather, news, events, etc). Very few scopes have made it into the Openstore, so they do need someone to poick them up. Sadly, I have no skill in that direction.
 @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, unfortunately the structure of website was recently changed (any visitors who were there before will notice) so this apparently messed up the RSS and made them all new again.  All things old are new again! There's nothing new under the sun anyways... Sorry about this and maybe we can fix it or maybe not :)
 Hi.  How do I install a .click file once it's on my phone (I got it to downloads).  It seems that everything I find online is for old Cannon Nickels Ubuntu Touch... I wanted to make sure I was using a correct command if I do it now.... thanks!
 and... this information should be posted somewhere... but where is most logical?  I think somewhere near Uappexplorer maybe?  or when you open the open store maybe?
 @wayneoutthere, $ pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted <pkg_file_name>
 Otherwise you can open the .click pkg with OpenStore or use UT Tweak Tools
 oh!  neat i didn't knw open store can do that. cool. haha
 let me try... thanks sir
 wha???? that was so easy!! hahahaha
 this definitely isn't android or ios I've been told
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 Is it possible to download the recovery image idependently? I overwritted it with TWRP and cannot perform OTA update... Otherwise I can re-install from scratch, no worry 😊
 @olisax, My understanding is no. Not yet at least. Could be wrong though
 ^studying MDT's scripts on github i can see recovery images hosted on MDT server space, but i don't know where these come from and how recent they are
 they're flashed with fastboot
 underneath it's very shiny surface, my guess is Ubports installer does the same
[13:51] <tgBot> Jens was added by: Jens
 Will it ever be possible to run an AppImage on UBports?
 I suppose in Libertine?
 @YougoChats, Indeed ! I tried with fastboot-flashing that recovery from MDT, it seems it's an old one (it has the old logo "phone+tablet") and OTA-update doesn't progress further...
 If the AppImage is for armhf and the App in it mir compatible, I guess it should work fine if you start it from the terminal
 @JBBgameich, Ah, of course, armhf... Hmm... I need to see if I can get Travis to make those :P
 @olisax, i remember that. instread of starting the update it just sits in recovery. you have to go to Ubuntu tools (?) and then apply update IIRC
 i've been poking around in Ubport installer's Github, but it's all java script with a maze of endless references and parameters and i haven't found a clear cut URL somewhere yet
 yep, it's an electron nightmare :p
 but it's all adb and fastboot in the end, and there has to be a grep going for a recovery.img sitting on a server at some point
 Yeah, the two only (partial) URL I found were those :
 const ubportsApi = "https://devices.ubports.com/" …         url: ubportsApi + "api/device/" + device, … const baseUrl = "https://system-image.ubports.com/";
 system-image is crazy
 https://twitter.com/2Arc676/status/920661939570618368   cananyone help me out here?
 @sverzegnassi, How could I open it with OpenStore? I've already heard about that but I've never been able to do...
 just click on it
 :D
 from file manager?
 yep
 it doens't work... no app in the content-hub
 neither in the dev app...
 do you have the latest version installed?
 it works perfectly for me
 @vanyasem, sure
 This is news! Umatriks, Millenial members, and important stats all right here at the Ubuntu Touch News Desk … https://soundcloud.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-news-desk-171018
 @wayneoutthere is there a way to download tracks from SoundCloud? I simply love I never Sleep 😘😂🤣!
 yes, podbird
 that seems to download it.... not sure where the mp3 is filed though
 okay, thanks
 or even better....
 THIS
 (Audio, 94s)https://irc.ubports.com/AJVaGG0e/file_1278.mp3
 but we're trying to funnel people through sound cloud to get an idea whose listening to what
 ah ok👍🏻
 @wayneoutthere, imho, you need to fade quotes a little
 also, make the beat quiter (or the voice louder)
 apart from that, i'm impressed
 @exar_kun will get back to school on this for the next one ;)
 tahnks for any/all feeedback
 I'm a fan... keep'n it real.  Think positive thoughts :)
 if you fix it, that will be my ringtone for a loong time
 i have a half finished song too but it's... half finished
 who can sell me an extra 4 hours per day?
 should we take it easy on the Foundation Devs??? Wayne keeps poking them in the eye... 😱
 @wayneoutthere, Kinda reminds me of CyanogenMod's official ringtone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B2Qxh1nluQ
 @Crash_Burn, There's certainly a difference between banter and actually being hostile. I haven't listened to the latest audiocast, but I doubt it's hostile.
 Either way, don't think of the community as separate from the Foundation. The foundation is a catalyst for the goals of the community.
 agreed.. but I desperately want UBports to succeed.
 My n5 wake up a long time on UT😢
 Try turning off the brightness sensor. That seems to fix screen issues for the N5 and FP2.
 Automatic brightness, that is
 Now I'll check ))
 Very good)
 Too quiet musk and notification
 volume max
 Web telegramm no play sound message
 @Lorxu, I tried but one stop was that the vivid image miss file system in user space support
 libfuse.so missing
 @Lorxu, Good luck with armhf appimages
 😝
 #️⃣  Hide keyboard
 Wtf
 Sry
[17:01] <tgBot> NikosChat was added by: NikosChat
 @NikosChat, welcome
 What is the difference between '--channel=15.04/stable' and '--channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable' -channels?
 With first option I have working wifi but in second one doesn't connect at all..
 so there must be some differences between those..
 With mako=Nexus4
[17:33] <tgBot> Adrian Lanz was added by: Adrian Lanz
 @Adrian Lanz, welcome
 How use umatriks)
 ?
 install it from the openstore, login with your account, select the chat, chat your message, send it
 which part is troubling you?
 (resolved this issue in PM)
 @vanyasem, Haven't tried it yet. Can you create an account in uMatriks or do you need one already to use it?
 i already had one, so i wouldn't know
[17:46] <huntersn32[m]> Mmm
[17:47] <vanyasem[m]> hello :D
[17:47] <huntersn32[m]> I am a BOT:D
 (Photo, 800x534) https://irc.ubports.com/DgLQ8HUf/file_1280.jpg
 why can't I have this :XXX
 @Stereofont, You have to create an account. I recomend https://Riot.im/app to create it.
 @LarreaMikel, Thanks
 ;)
 @wayneoutthere, Did someone say uMatriks?!?!
 XD
 @wayneoutthere, Oh man.. it feels like soon I will have to dedicate a weekend for you podcast only. I only could listen "i never sleep". You are popping out podcast like anything 😁😁 . keep up for others anyway . Also I have lost count of how many I am behind. Hopefully I will catch up.
 You can't blame me for loving matrix
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Did someone say matrix?
 @pavi4de, Yes
 Please crowdfund the main matrix devs. If you know someone who has lot of cash lying around it would be great
 https://www.patreon.com/matrixdotorg
 @PhoenixLandPirate, It is awesome
 @Lorxu, This
 @pavi4de, This also
 can someone confirm that the magic-device-tool also works on debian testing?
 Should do, it's a snap
 does mdt still support ubuntu touch?!..
 Not for long
 @PhoenixLandPirate, thnx
[19:31] <tgBot> Manolo was added by: Manolo
 Buenas noches
 @PhoenixLandPirate, why?
 Tengo un bq e5 HD con Android en un cajón. En el pc uso Ubuntu desde hace años. Vale la pena instalar ubports en ese terminal?. Gracias
 @Crash_Burn, pokey pokey pokey!  get some safety glasses if it hurts
 @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh, Get to work! No excuses!  the longer you wait the further behind you'll be!  Take it out of your sleep!
 Not medical advice
 9 out of 10 doctors agree you should prioritize the audiocast over sleep
 Note: Wayne voted 9 times
 I'm a doctor.
 Audio Doctor
 I'll fix you
 @Manolo, I have a BQ Aquaris E5 with ubuntu touch with ubports version installed and I can say it is already much better than the one Canonical left aside. If you don't mind missing apps like for example Whatsapp I think you will not regreat it. My 5 cents...
 I only use Telegram And a gps
 Thanks Matteo
 @Matteo, Isn't there WhatsApp desktop on Ubuntu Touch? On UBports doesn't works?
 @Matteo, you can use LoquiIM
 Yes, there is a webapp for whatsapp but you need to have the regular app on an other android phone from which reading a QR code to enable the webapp on UT...it is not very useful in this condition, I'm afraid...there is also an app named LoquiIM which promises to make whatsapp work on UT but it doesn't work for me, I don't know why.
 @Matteo, this is hard to read. makes me sad.  We need to work hard to wipe away my sad tears. Oh, if I could program.  Instead... all i have is a lonely microphone...
 @Manolo, Well telegram works well, even if it is not yet at the same pace than the one for Android but the maintainer is improving it more and more. GPS works like a charm with my BQ E5, I was really impressed the first time, because with Canonical version didn't work at all
 don't use whatsapp , it belongs to the Enemy
 @Montefrio, yeah... who owns that again?  facebook or something slimy?
 read the Name of the Facebook funder
 I have a BQ E5 Ubuntu and I want to flash UBports on it using a Windows pc, which guide can I follow? There are two on UBports site
 Ok Matteo, I' ll try It in the morning and I let you know. Thanks again
 @Montefrio, i'm too lazy.  i'll just believe you because you are on the internet and the internet is true
 Wayne , do you believe me?
 @Montefrio, Monte, I do believe you.
 You must earn my distrust
 ☹️
 @vanyasem, Which 'Canonical emulator' ?
[21:01] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> @Akira_rulezZ, i think on windows pc it is best to use the ubports-installer (https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer) however i am not 100% shure since i never tried myself and recall having heard in one community Q&A that once there were some problems because of drivers under windows
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 @demokrit atomos, Oh, thank you, there are 4 versions for 1.7 Beta, which one have I to use on Windows 64 bit? I'm really noob
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[21:05] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> @Akira_rulezZ, the one ending in ".exe"
 @demokrit atomos, Ok, right, sorry for stupid question 😀
[21:06] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> no problem
[21:07] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> however, you might need to install adb drivers (just looked into the issues on github) @neothethird maybe you can help here?
[21:09] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> maybe this one here: https://adb.clockworkmod.com/ but it might be best to wait for one of the devs to say which source for adb drivers is trustworthy... sorry that i cannot adwise you further
[21:09] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> have to leave now, good luck!
 @vanyasem, 👌
 The tool switched my device on fastboot mode, but I still haven't downloaded any image of UBports
 Hi i'm new here. Is there a time estimate when it is possible to flash the Fairphone 2 ( Android 6.0 Version) with ubuntu? Thanks
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/scttcL36/file_1282.jpg
 @Jens, if you choose devel you can do that now
 @demokrit atomos, ah! that's intresting, will look into that
 @Akira_rulezZ, is it ubports installer you are using? and what OS?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/3yfor5sd/file_1284.jpg
 @mariogrip, I'm using the one linked above
 OK. I wasn't sure because Website said i shouldn't.. Thanks Marius
 I want to switch to UBports but no idea if it do it everything by himself
 @Akira_rulezZ, right, we still have some problems with windows, we are still trying to figure out the driver situation with windows. It seems to work on some machinces. but some refuses.
 @mariogrip, Is it refusing in my case?
 do you maybe have linux or mac pc you can try?
 @mariogrip, No, I haven't
 So isn't working, right?
 @Akira_rulezZ, yeah it seems to be stuck on the fastboot part. it have not done anything to the device yet, so just reboot and eveything should be fine
 @Akira_rulezZ, does not seem like it, we will get windows fixed as fast as we can, sorry about that
 @mariogrip, Don't worry, but tell me how to reboot normally my device 😂😂😂
 @Akira_rulezZ, just hold the powerbutton
 @mariogrip, oh, ok, it takes long time I guess
 5-10 seconds ish
 @mariogrip, 1 minute and it's still in fastboot
 @Akira_rulezZ, what device is this btw?
 @mariogrip, BQ E5 Ubuntu Edition
 @Akira_rulezZ, ah! hold power and volium up until the device reboots
 @mariogrip, Yeah! It worked 😊
 all devices has there special instructions :)
 Isn't there a way to flash an image like Android using a custom recovery?
 @UniversalSuperBox, UBports supports full featured ext4 and ext3 ?
 @Akira_rulezZ, there is an experimental app that i created a while back where you can do this directly from your device, but it's not 100% finish yet
 @rchs0, yes
 @mariogrip, Oh, this is interesting, I'm sorry I can't use it 😄
 @Akira_rulezZ, I will try to get it finish as soon as i can, there is not much left to do on it
 @mariogrip, Well, I can test it when finished if you want
 I give a try again to the installer, who knows...
 Ok, it definitely doesn't works for me 😄
 Whatever the kernel supports.
[22:19] <tgBot> Alex Pant was added by: Alex Pant
 @Manolo, Yes certainly. Try the UBports installer
[23:22] <tgBot> NikosChat was added by: NikosChat
 @Stereofont, It doesn't works for me
 LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND!!!!!
 https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy