| vlt | nemo: Good morning! | 06:08 |
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| vlt | nemo: Yes, \x00 seems to be perfectly valid utf-8, though it might not comply with what is considered a "string". | 06:09 |
| alkisg | vlt: he said exactly the opposite, (04:25:49 μμ) nemo: alkisg: \x00 is definitely invalid utf-8 | 06:10 |
| alkisg | invalid, not valid | 06:10 |
| vlt | alkisg: Yes, he said that but it doesn't seem to be correct. | 06:12 |
| alkisg | vlt: you should have said "no, ..." then, not "yes, ..." :) | 06:13 |
| vlt | alkisg: Damn, I never get this right :-D | 06:13 |
| alkisg | :) | 06:13 |
| vlt | alkisg: In my native language we have a third word for exactly this case. | 06:13 |
| alkisg | Hehe | 06:14 |
| vlt | We have "ja" for "yes", "nein" for "no" and "doch" to contradict a negative statement. | 06:14 |
| alkisg | That should translate to "but"... | 06:15 |
| alkisg | nevertheless etc | 06:15 |
| vlt | alkisg: "Doch" can be used completely by itself. | 06:16 |
| chanstar | hello | 06:16 |
| chanstar | anybody? | 06:16 |
| alkisg | 82 persons here :) | 06:16 |
| alkisg | !ask | 06:16 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 06:16 |
| chanstar | How to support chinese input method/ | 06:16 |
| alkisg | vlt: btw I agree that "0" is valid utf8, but not valid text file | 06:17 |
| alkisg | chanstar: this one? https://askubuntu.com/questions/792154/how-to-install-cangjie-traditional-chinese-input-for-ubuntu-mate-16-04-powerpc | 06:17 |
| * vlt too | 06:17 | |
| chanstar | OK thanks | 06:18 |
| alkisg | np | 06:18 |
| krishnakarkera | hello | 06:38 |
| diogenes_ | hare krishna | 06:39 |
| alumno | alguien hay por hay | 08:06 |
| alkisg | !es | 08:08 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 08:08 |
| gabe | tes | 09:12 |
| gabe | helo anyone | 09:12 |
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| hans_ | hello, i'm brandnew with ubuntu mate on a raspi 2, and have some problems finding the right settings | 13:22 |
| hans_ | the date text is in french and i want to have it in english... i'm livuing in France so the time zone is paris... | 13:22 |
| hans_ | have already experience with ubuntu on a intel laptop...but i don't find the right setting menu | 13:23 |
| hans_ | here on the raspi | 13:23 |
| hans_ | has somebody a clue? | 13:26 |
| _Anna_ | hans_ You want only the date/clock in english or the whole interface? | 13:26 |
| hans_ | the whole interface can be in english, while the install i choosed english as language | 13:27 |
| hans_ | the interface is ok in english... | 13:28 |
| _Anna_ | I'm confused. Which version of Ubuntu MATE have you installed? The english one or the french one? | 13:29 |
| hans_ | I installed english ubuntu mate, set my timezone to paris, because living in France, | 13:30 |
| hans_ | the days ,month etc are shown in French | 13:30 |
| hans_ | all the rest of the interface is in English already | 13:31 |
| hans_ | ... should i write_Anna_ in front of each row i post?... | 13:32 |
| diogenes_ | lol | 13:32 |
| diogenes_ | try that' | 13:32 |
| _Anna_ | That's weird. I live in a non english-speaking country too, but date/clock is in english as the rest of my interface. | 13:32 |
| hans_ | oh no, i'm a bit confused, this chat is new for me... | 13:33 |
| diogenes_ | hans_, in one sentence, what's your problem? | 13:34 |
| hans_ | I installed mate in english,living in France, so set the timezone to paris.Now the days, month are in french, want them in english | 13:35 |
| diogenes_ | wait till I finish my chess | 13:35 |
| hans_ | i think i found it...language and regional formats setup | 13:36 |
| diogenes_ | good job | 13:36 |
| hans_ | i have to reboot to change i guess... | 13:37 |
| hans_ | thanks anyway. see you all back after reboot | 13:37 |
| _Anna_ | OK my question: If linux is installed in a logical partition, does swap have to be under the same extended partition? | 13:40 |
| _Anna_ | In another words, can I have the distro installed in a primary and swap in one of the logicals? | 13:41 |
| hans_ | ... all is ok now.I changed the settings in control center,language support,regional format, set to english, and apply system wide. | 13:43 |
| hans_ | interface and time,date texts are in english.Just the currency stys in Dollar...anyway, thats fine for me. | 13:44 |
| _Anna_ | Just being curious, hans_ , were you logged in as guest before? | 13:45 |
| hans_ | no, just logged in as hans as before | 13:45 |
| hans_ | from the pop up menu after booting | 13:46 |
| hans_ | and as far as i understood is the chat taking over the username of the login | 13:46 |
| hans_ | from ubuntu | 13:46 |
| Canoe | Looking forward to 17.10 UM tomorrow, the quality of font rendering compared to other platforms never ceases to amaze me, so much more legible. | 14:55 |
| marosg` | _Anna: yes, swap partition can be anywhere | 14:57 |
| _Anna_ | I thought so marosg. Thanks for verifying. | 15:00 |
| alon | bonjour, nouveau sur Ubuntu mate installé sur Raspberry 3 | 15:36 |
| alon | je souhaiterais savoir comment faire pour que le bluetooth soit activer avant de me logger car j utilise un clavier et souris bluetooth | 15:37 |
| alon | du coup je dois pour le moment utiliser un clavier usb avant d'utiliser mon clavier et souris bluetooth, donc pas super genial ;-) | 15:40 |
| nemo | vlt: yeah, I was obsessing about strings | 16:26 |
| nemo | vlt: he's right, I was wrong - I was mixing two definitions | 16:27 |
| nemo | vlt: it's a valid code point, it isn't a valid string | 16:27 |
| nemo | vlt: pluma is reasonably obsessed with strings, so that's what causes it (and file) to fail to detect the encoding | 16:27 |
| nemo | vlt: for very short sequences it assume it must be a text string that allows that, I guess - which is how I end up w/ what is presumably UTF-16 CJK | 16:27 |
| Canoe | Is there a specific time tomorrow for 17.10's release? | 17:28 |
| dinoman | habe kodi auf meinen paspberry mit ubuntu-mate installiert. kodi will aber nicht starten. hat jemand einen tipp? | 17:40 |
| diogenes_ | dinoman, starten kodi im der terminal und sehen was ist loss | 17:41 |
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| === Webster is now known as eddyelectron | ||
| eddyelectron | Good afternoon | 19:22 |
| eddyelectron | just finished installing Mate on an old (10 years) Macbook Pro | 19:23 |
| eddyelectron | successful, runs hot though | 19:24 |
| Canoe | @eddyelectron That's still an impressive achievement. | 19:25 |
| eddyelectron | there was a pair of scripts to run in the old version of OS X to turn the fan faster | 19:25 |
| eddyelectron | I dunno if I can pull that off inside of Mate though | 19:26 |
| eddyelectron | Wasn't that difficult. I gave it a try after 5 instals of Debian 8 & 9 failed | 19:27 |
| eddyelectron | Mate was easy in comparison | 19:28 |
| eddyelectron | always have good luck with Mate | 19:28 |
| eddyelectron | Great distro! | 19:28 |
| eddyelectron | happy to see there is a chatroom | 19:29 |
| Canoe | Yep it's supremely usable! Have it running across 3 generations of hardware. | 19:29 |
| edison | The Debian folks told me I could run OpenMediaVault from inside Debian... wondering if I can do that from inside Mate? | 19:31 |
| Canoe | @edison not tried that, but I have it on a Raspberry Pi. It's potentially doable though. | 19:32 |
| edison | I'm waiting till I get a Pi3 before I try that | 19:33 |
| edison | running inside of Jesse? | 19:33 |
| edison | I always just installed an OMV iso to a disk and went from there | 19:34 |
| Canoe | No, just a standard OMV iso | 19:35 |
| edison | on a 3? | 19:35 |
| Canoe | Pi2 | 19:36 |
| edison | I bought a USB to SATA cable to do OMV... doesn't work with older SATA drives... too much power, my guess | 19:36 |
| edison | is it pokey? | 19:37 |
| Canoe | Yeah it's the size of an old matchbox :) Just use a large microSSD | 19:37 |
| edison | wish I could afford a big SSD | 19:37 |
| edison | I mostly work with 4+ year old hardware that I acquire on the cheap | 19:39 |
| edison | But I have like six laptops, three desktops, two tablets, an iPhone | 19:41 |
| edison | All good fun, great to learn with.... | 19:41 |
| Canoe | Somewhat comforting to see how long kit lasts, we've come a long way in the last 20 years alone | 19:42 |
| edison | edison = eddyelectron dunno how the nick got swapped | 19:42 |
| edison | Linux lets us keep that old hardware | 19:42 |
| edison | Acquired a 13 yr old PowerPC Macbook Pro recently.... that will go on Mate soon | 19:44 |
| Canoe | The only real issue I've had is with the power-efficiency of older cpus and psus. Switching from a 2009 machine to one I built last year practically halved power consumption. Also AMD -> Intel | 19:44 |
| Canoe | I don't think PowerPC is supported any more unfortunately, recently taken off. | 19:45 |
| tsimonq2 | edison: Except that Ubuntu MATE stops supporting all PPC machines within the next 2 years (following the PPC removal from the archive)... | 19:45 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah | 19:45 |
| Canoe | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/10/msg00008.html | 19:46 |
| edison | I understand that... Yeah, then that box will go to the recycler for a proper burial | 19:46 |
| edison | the isos are still around | 19:46 |
| edison | The PPC mac still has great battery life... incredible | 19:47 |
| tsimonq2 | edison: Additionally, since it's all free software, nothing is stopping you (or anyone else) from doing package builds and publishing on a different server for powerpc ;) | 19:48 |
| Canoe | If it's running on the original battery, that's surprising for a decade-old machine | 19:48 |
| edison | the browsers in the old OS V versions don't render modern websites worth a darn | 19:48 |
| edison | came with two batteries one good, the other not so much | 19:49 |
| edison | OS X | 19:49 |
| edison | anyway, it is all good fun... keeps me away from Television | 19:50 |
| edison | gaming is uninteresting to me... | 19:51 |
| Canoe | :) I think mine gets turned on twice a year | 19:51 |
| edison | when there is breaking news? | 19:51 |
| Canoe | Find what fascinates you, and enjoy the journey :) | 19:51 |
| edison | Exactly! And earn some grocery money along the way, helping others | 19:52 |
| Canoe | Nope, Christmas ;) | 19:52 |
| edison | There is that too | 19:52 |
| edison | I help lots of seniors out of jams with their computers | 19:53 |
| edison | Have flash drives will travel... | 19:54 |
| Canoe | Since switching my Dad to Mate, I've gone from monthly, if not weekly issues with malware and visues, to servicing it a couple of times a year. | 19:54 |
| Canoe | The tipping point was a scam call that ended with him getting out his credit card. So frustrating. | 19:55 |
| edison | I've fliped some folks from monster desktops to chromebooks... and don't hear from them anymore | 19:56 |
| Canoe | "Your pc is broken, call this number to fix it. We're Microsoft, honest!" | 19:56 |
| Canoe | It's ridiculous how stable they are, not that I'm complaining. | 19:56 |
| edison | I was off to Nebraska for the eclipse.. one of my reulars got the "DON"T TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER call this 800 number or you are hosed... $300 they dinged her card for | 19:57 |
| Canoe | Ouch :( | 19:58 |
| edison | I was so angry with her! They robbed her with her permission | 19:59 |
| edison | Anyway, the eclipse was astounding! | 19:59 |
| Canoe | Hopefully the cc company allowed a chargeback on account of fraudulent transactions. | 20:01 |
| Canoe | Can imagine, saw a couple of travelog videos from people who were there, looked incredible! | 20:01 |
| edison | 2800 mile journey for 2 minutes 36 seconds of totality... worth every penny | 20:01 |
| Canoe | It's not something you forget, well, ever. | 20:01 |
| edison | we drove from California to Nebraska | 20:01 |
| edison | I've seen ten partials in my lifetime... Totality was a million times better | 20:02 |
| edison | Don't miss the 2024 Eclipse!! | 20:02 |
| Canoe | Only seen two full totality, lunar and solar | 20:03 |
| Canoe | I'll stick it in my diary, hopefully still alive lol. | 20:03 |
| edison | yeah, same here | 20:03 |
| edison | Hey I gotta run, nice chatting with you. I will return | 20:04 |
| edison | thanks! | 20:04 |
| Canoe | You too! | 20:04 |
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