[00:00] <llucas> thanks
[00:00] <ahoneybun> is that song copyleft or free to use?
[00:02] <valorie> i386 test underway
[00:02] <llucas> ahoneybun https://www.bensound.com/royalty-free-music/track/sunny
[00:03] <llucas> There are credits at the end of the video
[00:04] <ahoneybun> cool adding them to the video desc as well
[00:04] <ahoneybun> uploading now
[00:06] <llucas> ahoneybun make it unlisted for now
[00:06] <ahoneybun> yea sure
[00:06] <ahoneybun> https://youtu.be/unPuBIsPLTQ
[00:10] <valorie> success! and now dinner
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[02:05] <valorie> doing the amd64 auto-resize test
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[02:36] <valorie> well this sucks: worked  reboot, when it seemed to froze. Eventually got into console: [numbers which change every report] systemd-journald[998]: Failed to send WATCHDOG=1 notification message: Transport endpoint is not connected
[02:36] <valorie> 3 of 'em now
[02:38] <valorie> seems to start ok after a hard reboot via the power button though
[02:43] <DarinMiller> valorie: when kubuntu hangs on restart, it's usually waiting for a process to terminate.  I use alt-printscreen-reisub and have never had an issue afterwards.
[02:46] <valorie> I waited 5 minutes
[02:46] <valorie> it was the step where it asks you to remove the USB
[02:46] <valorie> and hit return
[02:46] <valorie> nuttin
[02:47] <valorie> so this wasn't Kubuntu, it was ubquity or so
[02:47] <DarinMiller> yup, seen it many times, although recently, I see it less...
[02:48] <valorie> I've not seen it, but then I usually upgrade
[02:48] <valorie> not install
[02:48] <tsimonq2> How's it comin' along guys and gals?
[02:50] <DarinMiller> upgrading my main desktop to artful now.  I have not pulled down the daily's yet to try another round of installs.  
[02:50] <DarinMiller> upgrade is almost complete, will be downloading shortly...
[02:51]  * DarinMiller is watching/listing to these series of vids during the upgrade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oXH2nHZchk
[02:51] <DarinMiller> absolutlely adorable...
[02:52] <valorie> hmmm, I wonder if this BR should be against grub2 instead, because it was after grub
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[02:53] <DarinMiller> BR?
[02:55] <valorie> bug report
[02:57] <DarinMiller> duh
[02:59] <DarinMiller> "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process."  time to reboot.... let the fun begin :)
[03:03] <DarinMiller> upgrade complete.  I am amused it kept my custom downloaded 4.10 kernel as the default... 
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[03:11] <valorie> as of now, 4 of 6 on amd64, half on i386
[03:12] <valorie> I'll write to the list for more
[03:12] <valorie> and then try to get into my failed test of yesterday I guess
[03:12] <DarinMiller> Overall status update or number of installs you completed?
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[03:14] <valorie> I've completed 2 and another fail
[03:14] <valorie> I bet there are more but they are not yet on the qa site
[03:16] <DarinMiller> fail <> good. I can verify once my upgrade is "sorted".  Most upgrades were not "completed", but "sudo apt update" seems to be addressing them....
[03:17] <valorie> there is an upgrade test now too
[03:17] <valorie> doing it on this install
[03:19] <valorie> hmmm, test case is wrong
[03:19] <valorie> we don't have "upgrade-manager"
[03:21] <DarinMiller> I would have to mark my upgrade as a "2nd try mostly a success"... my apt-cacher db upgrade "failed" but I was to continue with the rest.
[03:21] <DarinMiller> rebooting, brb
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[03:41] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu is marked as ready.
[03:41] <tsimonq2> Bedtime...
[03:41] <DarinMiller> gn
[04:56] <acheronuk> LTS upgrade? impossible
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[05:00] <valorie> acheronuk: do you think it's worthwhile to disable that test and make some changes in the other?
[05:00] <valorie> we don't have "update-manager"
[05:01] <acheronuk> can we disable it? I have marked normal one as passed, as I already tested upgrades from 17.04 yesterday
[05:01] <valorie> I think so
[05:02] <valorie> I'll see if I have the perms necessary
[05:03] <acheronuk> need to revise our upgrade methods anyway, as discover can no longer trigger them
[05:03] <acheronuk> or offer them
[05:04] <valorie> hmm
[05:04] <valorie> well, I can't disable that I can see so I'll ask
[05:05] <valorie> IMO all the flavors who have LTS upgrade  need it disabled this time around
[05:05] <acheronuk> as far as I see, that won't block us being marked as ready anyway. for the isos at least
[05:06] <valorie> right
[05:07] <acheronuk> a little later this morning I will make sure we have coverage on all test cases. at least in a VM anyway
[05:07] <valorie> hopefully some folks will end up reporting tests they have already done
[05:08] <acheronuk> indeed
[05:08] <valorie> asked onlist again, and on kubuntuforum
[05:09] <acheronuk> cool. next release we need a better plan and coordination with our release team, but was too late this time really
[05:11] <valorie> it already seems better to me than in the past, but then I wasn't in charge before 
[05:11] <valorie> I like the way everyone pitches in
[05:11] <valorie> love it, actually
[05:11] <acheronuk> and maybe think how we coordinate/communicate across timezones, as we have distinct groups in different ones
[05:12] <acheronuk> yeah, I wasn't saying we were bad this time. just think about how to do it better.
[05:13] <valorie> oh me too
[05:13] <acheronuk> hi hateball 
[05:13]  * acheronuk hands hateball an iso to test :P
[05:13] <hateball> hi :)
[05:13] <hateball> oh
[05:14] <hateball> I tested 17.04 -> 17.10 a week or so ago, that worked fine
[05:14] <acheronuk> lol. no worries. it was what we were discussing when you joined, that is all
[05:15] <valorie> hateball: now there is a place on the qt tracker to report that
[05:15] <acheronuk> I tested 17.04 -> 17.10 as well. even with full backports PPA upgrades installed on 17.04
[05:15] <valorie> I would appreciate a report if you can
[05:15] <acheronuk> that worked
[05:16] <valorie> iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <acheronuk> and I'm going to try not to break that this cycle!
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[05:17] <hateball> well I am at work now so I have no time to test sadly, and I am trying to keep myself awake at all after a too long night of playing Borderlands 2 :|
[05:17] <valorie> heh
[05:18] <acheronuk> no problem
[05:19] <valorie> hateball: I didn't mean to test but just to report the test you already did
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[06:15] <valorie> acheronuk: what is our equivalent package-name (LTS times) to update-manager ?
[06:16] <valorie> and I'm wondering if there is a way to tickle it into skipping 17.10?
[06:16] <valorie> or should I just use cli
[06:16] <acheronuk> valorie: I was going to use cli for this
[06:17] <acheronuk> cli to trigger
[06:17] <acheronuk> let me try in a sec
[06:17] <valorie> probably faster
[06:17] <valorie> and it's already after 11
[06:17] <acheronuk> I'm just installing loads of KDE stuff first, to test more of an upgrade
[06:19] <acheronuk> yay. and a plasma crash. Xenial is nasty now compared with new plasma
[06:19] <valorie> nope, no way to skip
[06:20] <valorie> no crashies for me so far
[06:20] <valorie> if this takes to long I'll just let it finish while I snooze
[06:22] <valorie> too long
[06:30] <acheronuk> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[06:30] <acheronuk> Upgrades to the development release are only 
[06:30] <acheronuk> available from the latest supported release.
[06:32] <acheronuk> going to drop that and do ISOs for now
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[06:38] <valorie> my brain is fried and this is sorta fun, so I'll keep mine going
[07:42] <valorie> so the artful upgrade is underway, which is cool
[07:42] <valorie> I ain't staying around to see it finish though
[07:42] <valorie> given that it's a quarter to one
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[09:47] <llucas> hey when you plan to made release announcement public?
[09:48] <llucas> about kubuntu 17.10?
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[10:00] <acheronuk> llucas: when the release team in #ubuntu-release decide all is go. best thing to do is ask/lurk there
[10:02] <llucas> and normally that is around?
[10:03] <acheronuk> llucas: when I asked, I was told "Mid-afternoon seems likely."
[10:03] <acheronuk> that is UK time
[10:08] <llucas> ok thanks for the info
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:54] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-is-released/
 👍🏻
[14:24] <llucas> valorie why there is no link to the video  https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-is-released/ ?
[14:25] <acheronuk> llucas: I didn't know the video was on youtube yet
[14:26] <acheronuk> llucas: if you have a link, I can add it
 it's up just unlisted right now
[14:27] <acheronuk> a link?
 https://youtu.be/unPuBIsPLTQ
[14:28] <acheronuk> cool. I will get that on there
[14:30] <marco-parillo> 17.10 Release Announcement G+'d. I see somebody already tweeted it. I will do FB tonight (EDT) unless somebody beats me to it.
[14:31] <acheronuk> llucas ahoneybun: now added
 thanks @acheronuk
[14:33] <acheronuk> llucas: how can I credit you on that?
 The last frame has credits I believe
 ah, ok
[14:37] <llucas> yep it has
[14:38] <llucas> btw please share it on our social channels ;) 
 Can someone make the video public
 I personally don't like the wording on it
 We have not replaced those apps
[14:41] <acheronuk> tweeted the video. that's all I have access for (on official accounts)
[14:41] <acheronuk> mparillo marco-parillo can do more later I think
[14:41] <marco-parillo> G+'s the video
[14:41] <llucas> CliffordTheBigRedDoggie you mean description ot the video?
[14:42] <marco-parillo> s/s/d/
[14:42] <marco-parillo> Replaced on the ISO, but still in the archives is more accurate, but a bit of a mouthful, correct?
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[14:47] <acheronuk> anyway, thank you so much llucas :D
 The description on YouTube about the video
[14:48] <marco-parillo> Hmm, I thought I could create new posts on KFN, but I cannot in 
[14:48] <marco-parillo>     Home
[14:48] <marco-parillo>     Forum
[14:48] <marco-parillo>     Important Information
[14:48] <marco-parillo>     Announcements
[14:48] <marco-parillo>     Kubuntu Announcements
[14:48] <marco-parillo> hmm, I may not post new threads to: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forumdisplay.php/30-Kubuntu-Announcements
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[14:48] <marco-parillo> !@#$ webchat
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 Don't think we need to say replaces
[14:50] <acheronuk> mparillo: the admins there need to set some permissions before you can do that on that subforum
[14:50] <llucas> acheronuk sure no problem I think that for kubuntu 18.04 we could make something even better (with voice over maybe)?
 Maybe something like this release showcases VLC, x, y and z
[14:50] <acheronuk> llucas: yes, that sounds a good plan
 Llucas would you mind coming along to our meetings?
[14:51] <acheronuk> as long as it's not MY voice!
 Would love to hear your ideas
[14:51] <llucas> acheronuk well there are paid sites for that like fiverr
 Ricks voice would be good :)
[14:52] <marco-parillo> I can see valorie has posted to https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forumdisplay.php/30-Kubuntu-Announcements
[14:52] <marco-parillo> But it is pretty early for her.
[14:52] <acheronuk> it would!
[14:53] <llucas> https://www.fiverr.com/categories/music-audio/voice-overs?source=side-menu for 10 ten $ you can hire professional voice, just saying
 Oooo wonder would anyone want my voice!
[14:56] <llucas> btw should not amarok start with a big letter Amarok? just for consistency ?
[14:56] <mparillo> There was a dog listening to a Victrola that was the symbol of RCA, with the line, "His master's voice".
[14:57] <acheronuk> mparillo: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/72513-Artful-Aardvark-17-10-released
[14:57] <mparillo> You have the magic.
[14:58] <acheronuk> wow. their [youtube] embed tags make the video big!
 high 5 to all who worked on 17.10 release ! :D
[15:12] <yofel> ok, except for some dolphin crashes on session restore my notebook now happily runs 17.10
[15:16] <acheronuk> hmmm... that sounds vaguely familiar
[15:20] <yofel> https://paste.kde.org/ppdovkmui
[15:21] <acheronuk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379314
[15:23] <yofel> thanks
[15:25] <acheronuk> nothing says a fix has been pushed, but I guess since no reports against 17.08.x, it seems possible something fixed it
[15:39] <acheronuk> did not know this existed https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/
[15:40] <yofel> nice catch, neither did I
[15:41] <clivejo> must only been setup in August
[15:41] <clivejo> seems very snap oriented 
[15:42] <acheronuk> clivejo: snap a python application ;)
[15:43] <clivejo> yeah, haruld is looking at that to snap mycroft
[16:00] <mamarley> Has it been announced what BB will be called yet?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> mamarley, have you been assigned to gather suggestions ? :-)
[16:06] <mamarley> No, just curious.
[16:06] <BluesKaj> yeah, wonder when testing begins in earnest
 congratulation guys for the release
 Fwd from Kubuntu: Kubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark is released … https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-is-released/ … Kubuntu 17.10 has been released, featuring the beautiful Plasma 5.10 desktop from KDE. Codenamed “Artful Aardvark”, Kubuntu 17.10 continues our proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. The team h
[16:23] <mamarley> Looks like IrcsomeBot's message-splitting functionality could use some work.
[16:26] <BluesKaj> problem is the release isn't in the repos yet 
[16:27] <acheronuk> it is, but the meta is not updated yet to tell the upgrade tools that
[16:28] <BluesKaj>  why anounce it then actually do the official release 4-5 hrs later
[16:29]  * acheronuk shrugs at ubuntu release team logic
[16:31] <BluesKaj> yeah the 'buntu chats are flooded with.'It's not working"
[16:33] <clivejo> hi ronnoc
[16:39] <ronnoc> o/ clivejo how's release day going so far?
[16:40] <clivejo> bit of a waiting game
[16:40] <ronnoc> ahh yea makes sense :)
[16:40] <clivejo> for people to push the correct buttons and pull the right levers!
[16:41] <clivejo> did you see the release video ?
[16:42] <ronnoc> a few quibbles about PA failing on 17.10 on the Kubuntu forums so far - otherwise not much feedback there either yet. And no - I'm in EST and just got a chance to get away from work to check a few things. I will ASAP though.
 Is frameworks 5.39 a dependency of 5.11.1? When I added fw and plasma staging to my "problem" laptop the update to 5.11.1 worked fine.  Both prior attempts without fw staging resulted in partially functional desktop.
 not a dependency for building, but I did build against it. so should most likely be used together to be safe
[17:05] <acheronuk> both are in backports landing now
[17:09] <BluesKaj> i'll stick with 5.11.0 for now
[17:29] <acheronuk> mparillo: 5.11.1 is in backports landing
[18:00] <ronnoc> clivejo: I like the video a lot! Tastefully done and highlights new things well. If I was pressed for a niggle, it would be no links in video or description. But certainly quite a step-up from previous release announcement multimedia. \o/
[18:00] <ronnoc> shared on G+
[18:47] <ronnoc> Forum link to 17.10 audio issue (seems important) - in case someone has an idea. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/72510-No-audio-volume?p=405870#post405870
[19:45] <acheronuk> clivejo: you use google drive?
[19:45] <acheronuk> anyone for that matter
[19:46] <mparillo> I do
 @acheronuk, Yeah, for school.
[19:46] <acheronuk> ppa:rikmills/kio-grive
[19:47] <acheronuk> want that tested, as had to rebuild the signo-ui package from Xenial to get it working!
 Ack
[19:47] <mparillo> For AA?
[19:47] <acheronuk> the zesty and artful signon UI is broken
[19:47] <acheronuk> but odly the Xenial one works!
[19:48] <acheronuk> mparillo: yes
[19:48] <mparillo> I can do 64-bit with Plasma 5.11.1 or 32-bit as is?
[19:48] <vrmuppalla> acheronuk-there's also a bug in kubuntu 17.10 while adding google online account- it crashes. I opened launchpad bug.
[19:48] <acheronuk> mparillo: should not matter
[19:48] <mparillo> s/as is/Plasma 5.10.5/
[19:49] <mparillo> OK
[19:49] <vrmuppalla> kio-gdrive requires online account to be added before connecting.
[19:49] <acheronuk> vrmuppalla: that is what the rebuild of the signon-ui package from Xenial is trying to fix
[19:49] <vrmuppalla> ok, thanks,
[19:50] <acheronuk> vrmuppalla: I just used it here to access a google account and gdrive here :)
[19:50] <acheronuk> but want nore confirmation
[19:51] <acheronuk> vrmuppalla: you have a bug link?
[19:52] <vrmuppalla> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1723766
[19:52] <vrmuppalla> yes, that is the one- 1723766
[19:53]  * acheronuk pats ubottu
[19:53] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk signon-ui is working‎. Google account is create in systemsettins.
[19:54] <acheronuk> :)
[19:58] <mparillo> Strange. I added the ppa successfully, ran apt update && apt full-upgrade -y and All packages are up to date.
[20:01] <mparillo> You couldn't have snuck it into backports-landing?
[20:02] <acheronuk> mparillo: apt-get install kio-gdrive kaccounts-integration kaccounts-providers
[20:03] <acheronuk> mparillo: kio-gdrive, yes. but not signon-ui
[20:08] <mparillo> Now I see Online Accounts > Create > Google > Google signin successful > Allow > Done.
[20:08] <mparillo> In System Settings. The switch to Dolphin\
[20:09] <mparillo> Hmm, I forgot how I added it last time. It does not show up automagically under the Network Place
[20:11] <acheronuk> odd. it does here
[20:12] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk kio-gdrive copy files and folders is working
[20:12] <acheronuk> cool
[20:12] <mparillo> Could be my workplace firewall / proxy stuff, but re-booting to see if that explains it.
[20:14] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk delete and create not work.
[20:16] <acheronuk> _Wens_: I just deleted and created here. the deletion did not show up until I refreshed though
[20:19] <mparillo> Re-booting did not help. I can try to test from home tonight or, worst case, this weekend, but it sounds as if you have it working, and I have some special issue.
[20:20] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk yes, thank you
[20:20] <_Wens_> it is fine
[20:21] <acheronuk> I think kio-drive still needs some polish from KDE
[20:22] <vrmuppalla> acheronuk- it worked flawlessly (sep 27 download so plasma 5.10). They use 16.04 LTS as base so maybe that's why it worked.
[20:23] <vrmuppalla> Sorry, I meant it works flawlessly in kde neon I downloaded on sep 27.
[20:25] <acheronuk> vrmuppalla: that makes complete sense
[20:41] <valorie> oooo I get updates
[20:46] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk i run - kioclient5 exec gdrive:/
[20:47] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk I can now create and delete  files without refresh after this command
[20:48] <acheronuk> hmmmm
[20:50] <_Wens_> command from https://community.kde.org/KIO_GDrive#Usage
[20:51] <acheronuk> still odd
[20:52] <acheronuk> oh well, I said it still needs a bit of work upstream
[20:58] <clivejo> I can't get the Google Mail stuff working in KMail
[21:03] <valorie> I think the topic can be shortened, LOL
[21:06] <vrmuppalla> why is qupzilla using gnome keyring instead of kwallet even though its a kde app ?
[21:06] <tsimonq2> vrmuppalla: Because it just recently became a KDE app...
[21:06] <clivejo> its only just been move under KDE
[21:06] <clivejo> and will be called falkon
[21:07] <vrmuppalla> I believe that it can be built with gnome or kde integration and kubuntu chose gnome integration ?!
[21:08] <clivejo> it was sync'ed from Debian
[21:08] <vrmuppalla> ok.
[21:08] <clivejo> Kubuntu didn't choose gnome
[21:09]  * clivejo wonders are we building against KDE in KCI
[21:11] <clivejo> vrmuppalla: are you familiar with falkon?
[21:19] <vrmuppalla> Its still called qupzilla in kubuntu. I saw their website but I'll wait for it to hit the repos so updates are easier.
[21:22] <clivejo> yes, there hasn't been a release of falkon yet
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[21:26] <valorie> vrmuppalla: afaik there is lots of knowledgeable help in the KDE community for the new Falkon project to get on its feet
[21:26] <valorie> people really want a KDE produced browser again!
[21:30] <clivejo> acheronuk: do you know what the root problem is with signon-ui?
[21:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: not yet
[21:31] <clivejo> so weird
[21:31] <clivejo> I removed my Google Account and tried adidng it back
[21:31] <clivejo> getting the same issue as above
[21:32] <acheronuk> yeah, it's odd that it stopped working
[21:32] <clivejo> I tried your package from PPA and still not working
[21:32] <clivejo> brb rebooting
[21:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_falkon build #54: STILL UNSTABLE in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_falkon/54/
 Must need building against it
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, that kio-gdrive was built 1st
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[21:39] <clivejo> huh?
[21:39] <valorie> cool, the release sched for BB is already out
[21:40] <valorie> but I'll not trust it for now, until we have a name
[21:40] <tsimonq2> It's been out for three months now...
[21:40] <valorie> nice
[21:40] <valorie> that's corporate planning right there
[21:40] <tsimonq2> :)
[21:46] <clivejo> valorie: do you still have the telegram morse installed?
[21:46] <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1070873
[21:48] <valorie> I don't think so
[21:49] <valorie> apt-cache policy telegram-morse
[21:49] <valorie> N: Unable to locate package telegram-morse
[21:49] <valorie> did you mean telepathy-morse?
[21:49] <clivejo> its not in the archive
[21:51] <valorie> right, I think I remember testing from your PPA or KCI
[21:52] <valorie> in the misty past
[21:52] <clivejo> but you don't still have it installed?
[21:52] <valorie> I have telepathy still
[21:52] <clivejo> morse?
[21:53] <valorie> dunno
[21:54] <valorie> apt-cache policy ^morse doesn't find anything with morse in it installed
[21:54] <valorie> something you want me to test again?
[21:55] <clivejo> it isn't in the archive
[21:55] <clivejo> nevermind
[21:56] <valorie> oh huh, it seems I can see old chats from telepathy that linked to telegram
[21:56] <valorie> so it worked at some point
[21:56] <valorie> but the same search with ^telegram doesn't find anything
[22:02] <valorie> ok, got the kubuntu isos seeding
[22:02] <valorie> now for the rest of 'em
[22:02] <valorie> probably should prune off the 17.10s first
[22:03] <valorie> I mean 17.04 gosh
[22:04] <mparillo> acheronuk: OK from home, on a regular (Plasma 5.10.5) AA, your kio-grive PPA works perfectly.
[22:05] <clivejo> mparillo: did you already have Google account linked and setup in "Online Accounts"
[22:05] <mparillo> As soon as I signed in using System Settings > Online Accounts, I got a notification. I clicked on it, and it opened Dolphin to my GDrive
[22:05] <mparillo> No, I used System Settings to create the link
[22:05] <mparillo> Signed into Google, gave it all requested permissions, and up popped the notification.
[22:06] <mparillo> So I do not know if the problem is the corporate networking or upgrading to 5.11.1
[22:13] <mparillo> Picking a new AA VM now. Added backports-landing. Upgrading to KF 5.39 / Plasma 5.11.1 (this will take a while). And I will re-run the gdrive test from your PPA.
[22:20] <clivejo> acheronuk: adding your ppa fixes it for me
[22:22] <acheronuk> I wish I knew why
[22:22] <clivejo> there is a comment on bug report saying latest git fixed it for them
[22:22] <clivejo> there are commits in August
[22:23] <acheronuk> clivejo: I built that latest as a test. was still broken
[22:23] <clivejo> where you build it?
[22:24] <acheronuk> pbuilder
 eek!
 sbuild ftw
[22:24] <clivejo> very strange
 pbuilder is very strange indeed
[22:25] <acheronuk> tsimonq2 is very stange
[22:25] <clivejo> the bug, you silly mare
[22:25] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I agree. :P
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Now who wants to help test my debhelper merge from Debian? :P
[22:27] <clivejo> ooo darn fire
[22:29] <valorie> yay, all torrents added and some already seeding
[22:29] <valorie> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ if anyone wants to do it too
[22:31] <acheronuk> clivejo: August snapshot building in https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/kio-gdrive-test
[22:34] <mparillo> Clean AA VM. Upgraded to Plasma 5.11.1 / KF 5.39. Added ppa:rikmills  apt install kio-gdrive kaccounts-integration kaccounts-providers System Settings > Online Accounts > Google > Sign in > Allow all access > Done
[22:35] <mparillo> I get the notification, click and dolphn opens to my GDrive. So, I blame the work network administrators
[22:35] <acheronuk> mparillo: good to know
[22:36] <clivejo> I blame Simon
[22:37] <tsimonq2> clivejo: Blame me for what?
[22:37] <clivejo> EVERYTHING
[22:37] <acheronuk> lol
[22:37] <clivejo> in Ubuntuland
[22:37] <tsimonq2> Excellent. Award me with 10 more hours in the day and I can fix everything. :P
[22:37] <clivejo> grrr publish
[22:37] <clivejo> do it
[22:37] <clivejo> now
[22:37]  * valorie awards tsimonq2 24 hours per day
[22:38] <valorie> just like the rest of us!
[22:38] <acheronuk> patience
[22:38] <clivejo> I don't have any!
[22:41] <clivejo> clicks refresh over and over
[22:42] <clivejo> section: gnome?
[22:42] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/canonical-websites/www.ubuntu.com/issues/2322
[22:42]  * acheronuk shrugs
[22:42] <tsimonq2> I am human Lintian. :P
[22:42] <clivejo> why rik
[22:42] <clivejo> why
[22:42] <acheronuk> why what?
[22:42] <clivejo> gnome
[22:43] <tsimonq2> valorie: But but but I need 34 :P
[22:43] <acheronuk> probably Jeremy whatsit
[22:43] <acheronuk> and that breaks my google account set up
[22:44] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Soller?
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Or Bicha?
[22:44] <acheronuk> now back to signon-ui segfaulting again
[22:44] <acheronuk> 2nd of thsoe
[22:45] <acheronuk> There was an error while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2
[22:46] <acheronuk> clivejo ?
[22:46] <tsimonq2> What did clivejo do now? :P
[22:47] <acheronuk> he is hopefully testing
[22:47] <acheronuk> or chasing Max round a dark field
[22:48]  * acheronuk whistles.. Max Max Max....
[22:48] <tsimonq2> Or building his wall...
[22:48] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:49] <acheronuk> going to have to do git builds of that, and bisect to find last good commit
[22:49] <clivejo> confirmed
[22:49] <clivejo> wall is built
[22:49] <acheronuk> confirmed broken?
[22:49] <acheronuk> oh
[22:49] <clivejo> yeah broken
[22:50] <acheronuk> well, at least not just me then.
[22:50]  * acheronuk kills that ppa
[22:50] <clivejo> whats the diff between the working one and latest git?
[22:51] <acheronuk> about 2 years
[22:51] <acheronuk> anyway, I've had enough. has been a long day
[22:52] <valorie> thank you for all your work today acheronuk
[22:52] <acheronuk> :)
[22:52]  * valorie slides a JD on  the rocks towards acheronuk
[22:52] <acheronuk> mmmmmmm....
[22:53] <valorie> I think Artful sets us up pretty well for Bashful Baboon
[22:55] <valorie> heh, all but two torrents are already seeding 
[22:58] <tsimonq2> Bai acheronuk 
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