[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:26] <user|691> hello. I am using MacOS. How to burn .iso file to USB stick to install kubuntu?
[07:29] <user|691> hello. I am using MacOS. How to burn .iso file to USB stick to install kubuntu?
[07:29] <user|691> Please help guys
[07:30] <lordievader> user|691: Try Unetbootin.
[07:31] <lordievader> Thought it had support for Mac
[07:44] <valorie> mac might at least have dd?
[07:44] <valorie> since it's bsd underneath
[07:47] <lordievader> It probably has it, but I've had more luck with unetbootin than dd'ing an image.
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <Shibe> guys on the website it says kubuntu 17.10 is out but the download link still shows me kubuntu 17.04
[12:40] <hateball> Shibe: So it does
[12:40]  * hateball pokes acheronuk
[12:40] <hateball> At least I think acheronuk is one that can edit that stuff
[12:41] <hateball> Shibe: for the time being, it exists here anyhow http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/artful/release/
[12:41] <hateball> Someone just needs to update the webpage
[12:41] <acheronuk> Shibe: I was just testing the new banner in place. we are not quite released yet
[12:42] <Shibe> acheronuk: oh
[12:42] <Shibe> acheronuk: got me a bit hyped up :(
[12:44] <acheronuk> Shibe: sorry about that. changed back to 17.04 until the Ubuntu release team pulls the trigger on Ubuntu and all the flavours
[12:50] <mparillo> Yes, a few years back I jumped the gun upon seeing final images published, and was told it was a best practice to wait on the official release announcement. It usually comes out late afternoon UTC / GMT.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> I'm probly almost there already, updating and upgrading daily usually makes the official release a small upgrade to the OS
[12:56] <ForceRecon> are you guys at an official release yet?
[12:57] <acheronuk> not yet
[12:57]  * ForceRecon puts away blow horn
[12:57] <BluesKaj> it's not released yet. it will be anounced here #ubuntu-release-party
[12:58] <ForceRecon> woohoo.. morning btw
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[12:59] <ForceRecon> I am having some troubles with kubuntu on the machine as you know.. I am going to have to go back to the old distro for now and try again next week.  I need a stable machine back.. ....
[13:00] <ForceRecon> not saying kubuntu is unstable by any means... just saying my machine is having some issues..
[13:21] <acheronuk> now we are released :D
[13:21] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/
[13:22] <acheronuk> alternative downloads and checksums still need updating
[13:23] <lordievader> ForceRecon: What kind of issues?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he left , but he had grub and graphics issues
[13:27] <lordievader> That should be solveable... unless it is nvidia+intel related
[13:27] <hateball> nvidia + encrypted LVM iirc
[13:28] <BluesKaj> yeah , forgot about the lvm and encryption
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dunno why home users bother with that, but to each his own
[13:30] <hateball> well at least FDE seems a bit overkill
[13:31] <hateball> encrypting /home, sure
[13:31] <hateball> That said, nvidia could step up their game and fix their driver
[13:31] <BluesKaj> well, I have the same driver nd it works well
[13:31] <BluesKaj> and
[13:31] <lordievader> Yeah, running nouveau is a whole lot easier, but the performance is crap.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> if you're a gamer, but otherwise it works
[13:32] <hateball> BluesKaj: Yes it works well. As long as you dont require things like KMS to unlock LUKS during boot etc :)
[13:32] <hateball> If AMD can do it then nvidia can, they just... dont
[13:32] <hateball> same with the Wayland situation
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yup, too many complications
[13:34] <drp> FDE is easy to setup in the installer and I can feel fine with a weaker login password + if my computer ever gets stolen none of my data can be used
[13:34] <drp> so I do think it'
[13:35] <drp> s useful for home
[13:35]  * lordievader has everything but /boot encrypted
[13:35] <hateball> Yes, but the installer could/should have a warning if you enable FDE and the nvidia blob at the same time
[13:35] <lordievader> On machines which can easily leave the house.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> has anyone here heard of a linux machine without encryption being stolen and easlly accessed and used against the user like his bank and CC accounts?...i haven't
[13:49] <D0U91E> BluesKaj, ouch
[13:50] <BluesKaj> I haven't heard of anyone having that issue, D0U91E
[13:52] <lordievader> Computers get stolen all the time. I don't want to give them the ability to (easily) read the data I store on there.
[13:52] <lordievader> It might not be their aim. But that does not make it that I like the thought of it.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> yeah ,and thery mostly windows or mac  machines
[13:53] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-is-released/
[13:54] <lordievader> 🎉
 I had thought that now plasma 5.11 comes up and receives 17.10. Since current is currently plasma 5.10.5. I guess the plasma 5.11 with the 18.04 will come in April. What is now a pure speculation.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Silenoz , it should be in the backports soon
 plasma 5.11 will come for 17.10 in the backports PPA
 18.04 will have plasma 5.12
[14:00] <D0U91E> BluesKaj, where does the query come from err why were you asking?
[14:01] <D0U91E> heyyyy I thought 17,10 was going to be released... right?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yes, it's supposedly in the repos now
[14:02] <lordievader> D0U91E: See the link acheronuk just posted ;)
[14:02] <BluesKaj> D0U91E, the issue was about encryption on home user machines
[14:03] <BluesKaj> and the dangers of them being stolen
[14:18] <silenoz> i have a problem with the backports ppa
[14:18] <silenoz> silenoz@VirtualBox:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:18] <silenoz> [sudo] Passwort für silenoz:
[14:18] <silenoz>  Backports of new versions of KDE Platform, Plasma and Applications as well as major KDE apps for Kubuntu.
[14:18] <silenoz>  Mehr Informationen: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:18] <silenoz> [ENTER] drücken zum Weitermachen oder Strg-c, um das Hinzufügen abzubrechen.
[14:18] <silenoz> gpg: Die "Keybox" `/tmp/tmppz0mooh4/pubring.gpg' wurde erstellt
[14:19] <acheronuk> what problem?
 I'm just finishing pastebin everything.
[14:21] <BluesKaj> silenoz, check the the "technical details", you'llsee that 17.10 isn't included in those repos
[14:21] <BluesKaj> OSs
[14:21] <acheronuk> there is nothing in the backports ppa yet for artful
[14:21] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:22] <acheronuk> there are still a few issues with plasma 5.11 which makes me hesitant to push that to the main PPA
[14:25] <silenoz> so here pastebin
[14:25] <silenoz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25772860/
[14:36] <BluesKaj> silenoz, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:37] <BluesKaj> click on :Technical details.....
[14:38] <acheronuk> no release file, as nothing released into it yet
 so it takes two more three days until the releasedatei stands ready? If it is, it is also no wonder that you edit the manual still nothing came and again a error message.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, been on beta 2 with plasma 5.11, but there no new packages or upgrades in the repos yet and lsb_release -a shows the devel flag is gone
[14:44] <acheronuk> I've copied krita into backports PPA, as that is ready, and should stop the no release file message
[14:45] <acheronuk> when it publishes anyway
 ichw earth now snap back in the snap and wait a few days and then look again, until accordingly everything was released. To beat me now is something time-consuming. : D Still many thanks for the help and the now new information :)
[16:05] <trevize> hello I am having trouble upgradeing to 17.10
[16:05] <trevize> could anyone help me?
[16:06] <acheronuk> what trouble?
[16:07] <acheronuk> upgrade instructions from 17.04 are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtfulUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:08] <trevize> I write this to console
[16:08] <trevize> kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE"
[16:08] <trevize> I can see the release upgrade window
[16:08] <trevize> but it asks me to upgrade to 17.04 instead. I am upgrading from 16.10
[16:10] <acheronuk> trevize: yes, that is the upgrade path when you are not on LTS releases. the upgrade goes to the next release. it doesn't skip intermediate ones
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yes, it's not correct to jump a release, you can backup your data then doa clena install of 17.10
[16:11] <BluesKaj> do a clean install
[16:11] <trevize> the problem is it gives me an error and I cant upgrade to 17.04
[16:12] <trevize> a clean install is troublesome :-\
[16:12] <BluesKaj> make sure you yupdate and upgrade your existing packages first then do-release-upgrade
[16:13] <acheronuk> and on 16.10, ppa-purge the backports ppa before trying an upgrade
[16:14] <_Wens_> hi all! plasma-discover segmentation fault. If use kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" wrote No new release found.
[16:14] <acheronuk> you can also manually change yakkety in your sources.list to artful, and apt-get dist-upgrade, though that is a not officially supported method
[16:14] <acheronuk> and is at your own risk
[16:15] <acheronuk> _Wens_: what release upgrading from?
[16:15] <trevize> is it too late to upgrade to 17.04 now?
[16:15] <_Wens_> kubuntu 17.04 + backports
[16:15] <trevize> maybe I could first upgrade to 17.04 and then to 17.10
[16:15] <acheronuk> _Wens_: let me check
[16:22] <acheronuk> _Wens_: this has not updated with details of artful yet http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[16:23] <acheronuk> which is what the release upgrader checks
[16:25] <_Wens_> ‎‎acheronuk‎ thanks
[16:25] <acheronuk> _Wens_: that will get updated a little later today, at which point upgrades should work
[16:26] <acheronuk> _Wens_: ubuntu release team are apparently just checking for any last minute upgrade issues before they switch that over
[16:27] <_Wens_> ‎‎acheronuk‎ ok, thank you
[17:25] <o_a> Hello, all. When will Kubuntu 17.10 and Plasma 5.11 arrive? Thanks
[17:26] <o_a> Also, my fonts are ridiculously tiny after the last update and I'm not sure why
[17:26] <acheronuk> o_a: Kubuntu 17.10 is here
[17:27] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.11 is built, but in testing. will come for the backports PPA sometime in the next week or 2
[17:28] <mparillo> And still with the expectation that backports will skip 5.11.0 in favour of 5.11.1?
[17:28] <acheronuk> mparillo: 5.11.1 is built
[17:29] <user|80389> How can i upgrade
[17:29] <user|80389> to 17.10
[17:29] <acheronuk> user|80389: from what release?
[17:30] <user|80389> 17.04
[17:30] <acheronuk> upgrade instructions from 17.04 are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtfulUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:30] <user|80389> thanks
[17:30] <mparillo> Yes, I know, I tested 5.11.1 maybe a week ago. I deleted the VM during the flurry of 17.10 release testing.
[17:31] <acheronuk> mparillo: I only built it on Tuesday when it was released
[17:58]  * acheronuk thanks yofel 
[18:19] <o_a> acheronuk: Any ideas for when Plasma 5.11 land in the main repo? Or we can only expect it to appear in 18.04?
[18:21] <acheronuk> o_a: Plasma 5.11 is only likely in the backports PPA for 17.10. 18.04 will get 5.11 reasonably soon after it gets going hopefully, then 5.12 in Jan/Feb
[18:22] <o_a> You mean January 2019?
[18:23] <acheronuk> o_a: No, January/Feb 2018
[18:23] <acheronuk> https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[18:23] <acheronuk> 5.12.0 LTS Release Thu 2018-01-25
[18:24] <acheronuk> 18.04 will not go into feature freeze until March 2018, so should get plasma 5.12 in
[19:23] <_Wens_> Upgrade to 17.10. Bug with add google account in setting not fixed :(
[19:25] <acheronuk> _Wens_: I am playing with a fix for that, as the older Xenial version of 'signon-ui' actually works, while the newer builds do not
[19:25] <acheronuk> at least, the old one does not segfault!
[19:27] <acheronuk> if can get that working, it can go in updates or backports, with the added bonus of kio-gdrive in backports :)
[19:28] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk‎ kio-gdrive enable in backports?
[19:29] <acheronuk> not yet, but will be if I can get it working
[19:37] <Guest85272> hello
[19:41] <acheronuk> _Wens_: do you use google drive?
[19:45] <_Wens_> ‎acheronuk‎ yes
[19:46] <acheronuk> _Wens_: maybe you would like to test kio-gdrive in my ppa here ppa:rikmills/kio-grive
[20:00] <elichai2> Hey
[20:01] <elichai2> My brightness function keys stopped working, the volume fun keys do work. tried adding `acpi_osi=` to grub with no success, xev nor acpi_listen register the keys being pressed
[20:01] <elichai2> any ideas?
[20:28] <elichai2> if anyone was interested it was a DSDT problem
[20:41] <zadolux> hey
[20:57] <viewer|15441> hi! Has anyone some across this issue when using the Nvidia settings manager
[20:57] <viewer|15441> prime displays cannot be controlled by nvidia-settings