[02:29] why are virtio network drivers under 4.10.0-37 seemingly so unstable [02:32] I run into issues with heavy nfs/tcp traffic and the interface seems to hang/become unusable [05:42] good morning [06:14] morning. as far as i know, 17.10 should be online now, but why cant i seem to get the update ? [06:15] Thumpxr: Why would you expect it to be fully online now? I haven't seen any announcements. [06:16] Good morning [06:18] andol oh lol, i somehow went to 16.10 dir and didnt realized it ._. [06:22] Ah :) === jelly-home is now known as jelly [09:04] o7 === jelly-home is now known as jelly [12:21] Used this to fix a long boot time on Ubuntu Xenial (on AWS): https://askubuntu.com/a/897432 [12:22] It worked for a few days, but now apt-daily.service started getting executed at boot again. Here's the `systemd-analyze blame` output: https://pastebin.com/zLBQZSm9 [12:23] Not sure how that's possible with `OnBootSec=15min` in the timer config. Could it be that a dependent service is kicking it off? [13:05] dduvnjak: what does the critical-chain report show ? [13:11] TJ-: https://pastebin.com/wGqv8Bjj [13:13] jbicha: hi, I'm just seeing your message about f6 killing byobu/irc [13:14] dduvnjak: from that the apt.daily isn't holding things up, so it'll be running in parallel as I thought. It shows cloud-init-local.service taking 7.8 secs [13:16] TJ-: It's not slowing anything up, but it's causing issues with provisioning scripts which run at boot since it's locking /var/lib/dpkg/lock (which is another issue). It should be running 15 mins after boot, but somehow it's not. Is it possible that apt-daily-upgrade.service is launching it? [13:16] dduvnjak: oh, I see! sorry, from you showing timings I thought that was your issue [13:17] dduvnjak: there's away to check what causes a service to start... now what the heck is it!?! [13:17] there were two issues actually :) boot time and dpkg lock [13:19] Is that a trick question? :D [13:19] I was hoping someone would tell us and save me hurting my brain trying to find it! [13:25] `journalctl -u apt-daily-upgrade.service` doesn't say anything useful [13:26] indeed. I've seen something like the critical-chain output but showing what caused a service to start. [13:27] I'll try to analyze the SVG plot output [13:31] Looks like it was launched by cloud-init: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bifyio036ia208t/Screenshot%202017-10-19%2015.30.55.png?dl=0 [13:38] cloud-init will do an apt-get update which will lock dpkg? [13:38] I've had to add sleeps before for that [13:39] jbicha: I can't reproduce; I just used F6 to detach, and reattach, 30x times, no problem [13:41] dduvnjak: does "systemctl list-dependencies [--before | --after ] apt-daily.service" help (try both options) [13:42] kirkland: thanks. If I get annoyed enough, I'll try to reproduce with a more pristine environment [13:42] boottime might be that update process (could also be waiting for entropy for keys, but pollinate usually speeds that up) [14:18] TJ-: Thanks. It looks like it might be a dependency of apt-daily-upgrade.service: https://pastebin.com/RQ2veAR9 Will try to set a timer on that one also to see what happens. [14:19] dduvnjak: according to the systemd folks there isn't a way to identify what actually triggered the tart of the specific instance, only to show the dependencies as written in the unit/target/wants [14:20] ah ok [14:21] Thanks for your help. I have a feeling cloud-init kicked it off, even though user-data is specifically set to disable running upgrades on boot. I must have missed something. [14:22] it does get mind-boggling doesn't it? [14:26] to say the least :D [14:28] there's some default stuff in /var/lib/cloud... iirc [15:37] what is the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure my messy network ? [15:38] I thought it was dpkg-reconfigure network-manager but it's not installed [15:38] dpkg-reconfigure --all doesn't work either anymore [15:39] apt-offline supported by Ubuntu-server? [15:40] One trick I had with network problems was to boot a live USB, download the packages I needed on the same machine then move those packages to the local drive, boot the drive and install them there. [15:45] Jenshae: not sure why server matters to apt-offline? [15:45] Jenshae: it's available inn ubuntu [15:47] nacc: Thinking that if maxagaz has lost net with broken network-manager that he can use apt-offline to pull across the packages that he needs from another machine to fix it. [15:48] maxagaz: "messy network"? [15:48] my server is in a vbox [15:57] Laters o7 [17:08] hello, what is the root password of the mysql server after installation?!? There is no prompt on apt-get install mysql-server [17:12] Aison: what version of ubuntu? [17:14] nacc, zesty [17:21] Aison: just tested it and it definitely prompted me [17:21] Aison: do you perhaps have some settings that are making it noninteractive? [17:22] I don't think so. eg. phpmyadmin installation is interactive [17:24] I completely remove now and try again... [17:25] Aison: dunno, perhaps you already had it insntalled? [17:25] now it works, really strange, hmmm [17:27] I guess there was already a database installed [17:28] not mysql itself, but the databases (maybe because of a previous unclean removal) [17:29] could be [22:56] * Olanzapin is away -( bbl )- at 12:56a -( P:On / L:On )-