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mutanteoerheks: kind of fair, "execute the configure script" sounds awfully close to "execute a config file"00:05
oerhekssomeone told me once, a configure file has config scripts too, but his url made clear what he was looking for00:07
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illuminatedoerheks: there's an actual file named configure that is a script.  generally with a configure script you do ./configure00:23
smellsLikeGoatSphello everyone, I am in the process of flashing ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS on a pendrive, however I dont seem able to complete the SHA256 key verification successfully00:26
illuminatedoerheks: you can pass parameters to the configure script.. some common ones are --prefix --mandir --bindir and some others.  then you usually follow a configure with 'make all install'00:26
smellsLikeGoatSpIn particular, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25769202/ , I am following https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu?_ga=2.19899505.838278965.1508372310-1153412866.1495710854#300:28
smellsLikeGoatSpI did use port :80 as I believe my uni firewall was blocking the default00:28
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TheNH813Send help I broke lxpanel. XD00:43
TheNH813It won't autostart when I log in.00:43
TheNH813Even though it's in ./config/lxsession/autostart00:43
TheNH813If I run it manually from a terminal it works fine.00:44
TheNH813Any idea what I did to it?00:44
TheNH813All I did to break it was issue sudo service lightdm restart to kill off all logged in sessions.00:44
TheNH813Because one has a frozen application that wouldn't quit.00:44
Guest48666is their any decent books on linux kernel development :\-----<01:23
drownhello looking for some help importing id_rsa.pub to my ubuntu sso account.01:25
drownI just created one following instructions I'm trying to set it up because I'm going to be installing ubuntu-core01:25
incoganime made your son gay01:29
bazhangincog, wrong channel01:29
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roobitest01:35
acylontest test01:36
roobicheck mic 1 2 301:36
roobicheck check01:36
acylonwickywickywickytat01:36
roobi"yea can I get a little more in my monitors?"01:36
roobi"a little more yea"01:36
roobiok acylon are you ready to rock?01:38
acylonoh yeah01:39
bazhangroobi, ubuntu support issue?01:39
roobiNo sorry, just idling to help others01:39
bazhangtake the chatter elsewhere please roobi01:39
acyloni came on to see when artful aardvark release can be downloaded01:39
roobibazhang: chan police?01:40
bazhangacylon, check #ubuntu-release-party01:40
oerhekswait in #ubuntu-releaseparty for the announcement01:40
acylontyvm!01:40
bazhangroobi, just stay topical here, enough offtopic chatter01:40
incogis this your turf bazhang?01:41
nashpotatoI may be in the wrong place here, but is this a good place to ask questions I believe to be simple or someone might be able to point me in the right direction?01:53
bazhangnashpotato, ubuntu issue here01:54
oerheksask, wait and see?01:54
jasno point asking to ask, just ask xD01:55
nashpotatoI recently have done a little work with a ubuntu server that I installed a desktop on and was hoping someone could help me figure out how to have it autosign in and auto-run the minecraft server under that user so that I can easily get to it after power outages and the such01:55
nashpotatoI asked if it was the right place first because the subreddit said no support questions there and got here from there01:55
bazhangnashpotato, did you have a question there yet?01:57
nashpotatoI sent it, did you not see? I will re-send01:58
nashpotatoI recently have done a little work with a ubuntu server that I installed a desktop on and was hoping someone could help me figure out how to have it autosign in and auto-run the minecraft server under that user so that I can easily get to it after power outages and the such01:58
bazhangnashpotato, you put a gui on a ubuntu server install, and want it login and auto restart your minecraft server if it goes down in storms and such01:59
nashpotatoYes so that all I have to do is hit the power button01:59
nashpotatoI plan on not having it connected to peripherals, just power and internet01:59
oerhekssign into the desktop, and go systemsettings > useraccounts, and set automatic login01:59
bazhangnashpotato, the power button is a shutdown02:00
nashpotatoAfter power outage it will be off though02:00
oerheksand add minecraft to startup applications02:00
oerheksafter power-outage, not sure your machine will boot automaticly.. or your router is ready02:01
nashpotatoThe machine will not boot automatically, had one earlier today. I'm guessing I can find that in BIOS on my own though, it will not let me select automatic logon02:02
oerheksyou won't find that in your bios, read back please02:02
nashpotatoOkay, I am mostly concerned with the auto sign-in and auto run, but I cannot select auto login for the user02:04
vin317.10 already launched?02:04
oerheksvin3, no02:05
nashpotatoI did not realize that I had to unlock the settings I got the automatic signin set up now02:06
vin3ty02:06
nashpotatooerheks, thank you for your help02:09
oerhekshave fun!02:09
rzitohi02:16
rzitohi02:17
bazhangubuntu support issue rzito ?02:17
rzitonone02:17
rzitolooking for dark web chat02:17
bazhangwe chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic rzito02:17
bazhangrzito, theres none of that on freenode02:18
rzitocan you point me in the direction02:18
bazhangrzito, NO02:18
rzitooh well02:18
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helloiamnotthe1hello,02:28
helloiamnotthe1what time does 17.10 drop?02:28
bcowanwhen it’s hotte02:29
daxhelloiamnotthe1: there isn't a set time, it's released whenever the release team finishes their checklist02:29
Ben64helloiamnotthe1: some time in the next 30 hours, probably02:29
dax^02:29
helloiamnotthe1i can get the beta now, and just update it right02:30
daxyes02:30
daxhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ is the very latest thing02:31
helloiamnotthe1thanks will install now02:31
daxalrighty. if you run into trouble with it, support is in #ubuntu+1 until the actual release02:31
dax(and it, of course, may still have major issues that the release won't)02:32
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ssdcan anyone help wirh ubuntu 16.04  have issues with the harddrive02:34
Bashing-om!details | ssd02:34
ubottussd: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.02:34
ssdmy disk utility is listing 6 smd loopbacks02:35
guerowhat is this chat room for02:38
drownNeeed help importing rsa_id.pub to Ubuntu SSO account?02:39
SwabbyIs there a best practice way of running Ubuntu on Windows? I know you can do this with VMWare...02:39
bcowanguero: Ubuntu help etc02:39
Toadisattvadual boot will probably give best results02:40
drownbcowan, do you mean INSIDE WIndows?02:40
drownSwabby I mean02:40
Swabbyyeah...02:40
drownYou can use Openbox.02:41
Swabbythnx drown i will check this out02:41
drownOpenbox is a free VM software.02:42
drownBut your processor needs to be somewhat new02:42
drownLike the last 7 years02:42
drownAND it would be best if it was a decent multicore processor.02:42
bcowandrown: don’t u mean virtualbox?02:44
ssdhello03:03
sha1-lolcan i install ubuntu without LVM, with LUKS, and without swap?03:53
Gallomimiauh... yep03:53
sha1-lolhow03:53
Gallomimiawell, you have to click thru the box where it yells at you for doing no swap03:54
Gallomimiago into the custom setup there, configure it all manually03:54
sha1-lolbut then how do i do luks with it03:54
Gallomimialuks is the word for encrypted volume03:54
Gallomimiaso it will use luks if you pick crypto in the custom setup03:55
sha1-lolis the custom setup in ubiquity?03:57
sha1-lolor do you mean the "something else" thing03:57
Gallomimiathe something else thing03:58
sha1-lolok i don't see encrypted partition in something else03:58
Gallomimiawell this is like expert mode03:58
sha1-lolhere's a screenshot of what i see http://i.imgur.com/rfMKJeO.png03:58
Gallomimiayou have to pick all the things you want set up, and say where you want them mounted, how you want them used03:58
sha1-lolyep03:58
sha1-loli did all that and i'm ready to add root but i don't see a way to encrypt it03:59
Gallomimiapick physical volume for encryption03:59
Gallomimiafrom that menu there03:59
sha1-loloh i'm dumb03:59
sha1-lolso sorry03:59
Gallomimiathe other two are great. boot and efi03:59
sha1-lolfacepalm03:59
Gallomimiai think that's only step 2 out o303:59
Gallomimiabut yeah03:59
Gallomimiaif you facepalm at this part, i hesitate to help you further, you get?04:00
Gallomimiai don't want you to be able to screw up your computer this bad but not fix it04:00
sha1-lolno i know how to fix it04:00
Gallomimiaokay :)04:00
sha1-loli facepalmed because i didn't see the option that was right in front of my face04:00
Gallomimiaim just saying, i'm staring at two monitors that don't get much cool stuff showing on them on account of the nasty crypto setup that i can never fix04:00
sha1-lolsorry to hear that :(04:02
sha1-loli must be the only one who prefers a single partition for / and /home04:02
Gallomimiawell, i got smart and put it on a raid5 see04:02
Gallomimiaso i figured having it all inside an lvm would make things easy to manage later.04:03
sha1-lolyeah04:03
sha1-lolin that case sure04:03
Gallomimiait was. i could move things around and make new partitions and stuff04:03
Gallomimiasliced off a new one near the start to have more than one distro04:03
Gallomimiabut... it's been a real headache. mostly i find, because of my mainboard. it's so anti linux, should have caught fire by now04:04
sha1-loloof04:06
sha1-lolanyway i have to reboot now because the kernel hasn't picked up on partition changes04:06
sha1-loli'll brb (i mean *right* back. this is an SSD after all)04:07
Gallomimiathe installer crashed. we'll send a bug report and a developer will tend to the problem as soon as possible04:08
Gallomimiayeah. i'm sure.04:08
sha1-lol_hi04:09
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sha1-lolif _systemd_is_evil why do you use #ubuntu?04:14
sha1-lolor do you?04:14
Gallomimiauhm, well. drivers.04:16
Gallomimiapackaged drivers with no source code. just binary blobs. those are evil too04:16
Gallomimiabut what other choice do we really have>04:16
troopestHello guys;  I been looking for 3 days all over forums/suggestions but I am almost giving up. Been triyng to set up a stream from a VPS (ubuntu 16) ; but whenever I go live on twich it shows a black screen. Is it even possible to stream from a virtual cpu (like a vps)? Or am I wasting my time04:16
sha1-lolGallomimia: what does that have to do with systemd?04:16
sha1-loltroopest are you gaming on the VPS? what are you streaming?04:17
Gallomimiawell it's along for the ride, like a dirty hitchiker04:17
Gallomimiatroopest: if its a vps, it doesn't usually have any graphics to stream. what graphical UI do you have running?04:17
troopestsha1-lol I am trying to stream a flash-based game (browser based) called haxball (haxball.com)04:17
troopestlet me check Gallomimia04:18
mvahi there!04:18
Gallomimiahello04:19
sha1-lolGallomimia: i think some FSF-approved distros use systemd04:19
troopestGallomimia  I have Xfce Desktop envirornment  (not sure if this answers your question)04:19
LACampbellhello. I'd like to be able to output different chars using CapsLock+number+letter. It doesn't look like I can make chords like that using XModmap. Is there an alternative I could use?04:19
mvacan somebody here help me a bit, with running 16.04 ubuntu in LXC container under LibVirt on 16.04 host? It seems, there is some issues that I can't fix :-/04:19
Gallomimiatroopest: it does not. just because you have it, doesn't mean it's running. i assume you want the vps to boot up an xwindowing environment and run a browser. i'm pretty sure it's not doing any of that04:20
mva1) it doesn't limit container memory and processor cores to the values, specified in domain xml04:20
mva2) somewhy, systemd throws a ton of messages similar to this: `Failed to reset devices.list on /system.slice/libvirt-bin.service/system.slice/-.mount: Operation not permitted`04:21
troopest@Gallomimia I do have chromium installed and I can even see and play the browser-based game; I am only having issues with the streaming -I get a black screen04:21
mva(with different paths after "slice")04:21
Gallomimiaoh. well, maybe you have to make sure that the streaming program is hooked to the right "display" or "$DISPLAY"04:22
troopestI am not particularily sure how to do this, would you mind being a little more specific so I can try04:22
mvaLACampbell: isn't XCompose what you want?04:25
drownDoes anyone here know how to import an ssh key into Ubutnu SSO04:25
drown?04:25
sha1-lolok which device do i choose for bootloader installation? i chose /dev/sda last time but that wouldn't boot (EFI or legacy)04:27
sha1-loldo i choose sda1 (EFI) or sda2 (boot)?04:27
drownsda2 boot would be the one...04:27
sha1-lolok04:27
drowncause it has a boot flag.04:27
drownWhat are you trying to boot? Ubuntu? And is there a Windows installation on this same disk?04:28
sha1-lolno i'm trying to install ubuntu04:28
sha1-lolno windows04:28
drownoh04:28
drownso wait.04:28
drownare you in the Ubiquity installer??04:29
sha1-lolyes04:29
Gallomimiaargh. this thing is frustrating.04:29
Gallomimiasha1-lol: i always get the same problem04:29
drownSo you have already gone through installation once?04:29
sha1-lolok well it's an SSD so i have time to just try each option and reboot04:29
sha1-lolyes04:29
sha1-lolfirst time i selected /dev/sda and it wouldn't boot at all04:29
drownHmm04:29
drownThe disk is blank otherwise?04:30
sha1-lolalso /dev/sda1 was given the boot flag last time, not /dev/sda204:30
sha1-lolyes04:30
sha1-lolbrand new from the store04:30
drownYeah it's show showing sda2 probably because it sees that sda1 has a boot flag already04:30
sha1-lolwhat's showing sda2?04:30
drownTHe Ubiquity installer.04:31
sha1-lolubiquity wasn't suggesting i install the bootloader on sda204:31
sha1-lolit was suggesting i install it on sda04:31
drownWhen you did it last time it set the sda1 to boot most likely04:31
sha1-lolyes04:31
Gallomimiatry sda204:31
sha1-lolnot sda1?04:31
Gallomimiawell that's efi04:31
sha1-loli'm pretty sure my motherboard doesn't speak ext2 though...04:31
drownMost likely you have a boot flag and an installation on sda1, but that's just a guess.04:32
Gallomimiathose seem backwards to me04:32
drownYour motherboard speaks ext2, all of them do.04:32
drownYou shouldn't be using ext2 though.04:32
drownyou should be using ext3 or 4.04:32
sha1-loljust for the /boot04:32
Gallomimiai am. for the efi and boot partitions04:32
drownWhat version of Ubuntu are you isntalling?04:32
sha1-lol17.0404:32
sha1-lol(17.10 wasn't available for download yet)04:32
drownIt should be suggesting ext3 or 4 as the filesystem04:33
drownext1 2 3 4 are all filesystem types04:33
sha1-lolyeah for /04:33
drownthe / is the root directory04:34
Gallomimiavery clever04:34
Gallomimiaand now /boot is the other directory. you follow yet?04:34
drownWhen you install Ubuntu it usually creates two partitions sda1 and sda2 the first one is the OS isntall the second one is the swap partition04:34
sha1-lolyeah i follow Gallomimia04:34
Gallomimiawell that's not what he's doing drown04:34
sha1-loldrown i'm explicitly *not* doing swap yeah04:35
sha1-loland i'm doing LUKS too04:35
drownI've no experience with LUKS I forget what that is04:35
Gallomimiathat's the crypto containers04:35
drownAh.04:35
Gallomimiaso you write an ext4 filesystem inside the luks container04:35
drownBut the real FS is ext2?04:36
Gallomimiaand you have another partition called /boot04:36
drownVery interesting, I'll brb04:36
Gallomimia /boot loads, does a few things, asks you to decrypt, and then mounts the real /04:36
Gallomimiaaw i missed him?04:36
sha1-lolyes04:37
sha1-lol:(04:37
Gallomimiaalways stupid thing messes around04:37
Gallomimiamy system is powered down again. hate that04:37
drgx2xY04:37
sha1-lolhere's what i'm gonna do: http://i.imgur.com/X5Q7JM3.png04:38
sha1-lollook good?04:38
sha1-lolor did you say sda2? :|04:38
sha1-lolf it04:40
sha1-loli'mma install bootloader to sda104:40
Gallomimiasha1-lol: i think its sda2 since that's /boot04:41
sha1-loloops04:41
Gallomimiainstall it to all of them04:41
sha1-loltoo late :(04:41
Gallomimiagive it a go04:41
sha1-lolyeah i'll try that next lmao04:41
sha1-lollove this: just after choosing my time zone it's "almost finished"04:41
hide4test04:42
sha1-lolcongrats hide4, your IRC client works04:42
sha1-lol:P04:42
hide4thank you sha1-lol04:42
sha1-lolyou're welcome, hide4-lol04:42
TJ_thought 17.10 was releasing today?04:43
sha1-lolme too :\04:43
blistovwhat causes long kernel load time? like, 8 seconds  with an SSD. it's the longest part of my boot process.04:43
blistovonly thing i can really see is a 3-4 second delay while mounting root04:44
sha1-loli think your kernel hasn't had its morning coffee yet04:44
EriC^^blistov: try systemd-analyze blame04:44
sha1-lolalso systemd-caffeine04:44
sha1-lol:>04:44
blistovit's not systemd thats taking the time. it's the kernel load itself.04:44
blistovor am i confused.04:44
TJ_try another kernel04:44
TJ_like xanmod04:44
TJ_https://xanmod.org/04:45
blistovlike, i remember ubuntu booting in about 3-4 seconds not too long ago.04:45
blistovbut the kernel load time has been steadily increasing, but i've sorta been lazy about my hacking lately (too busy doing boring stuff) so i've no idea what's been going on for the past year or so.04:45
blistovsystemd blame doesn't really show me anything. Once the kernel is loaded, everything is snappy.04:46
blistovreally think swapping kernels will halp?04:46
blistov(god this takes me back to the gentoo days).04:46
TJ_its way easier now than old days04:47
sha1-lolok Gallomimia install is done04:47
sha1-lolfingers crossed04:47
TJ_xanmod installs from just adding a repository and using apt-get to install it, two commands04:48
blistov@TJ_, yea, but "easier" confuses the crap out of me. I'm good as long as it's not all obfucated to hell.04:48
LACampbellmva: thanks a lot, that looks like exactly what I was looking for (Xcompose). it was really hard to google for, cheers04:48
blistov@TJ_ and by easier, i mean i come from a background of YEARS of configuring and compiling kernels by hand :p04:50
blistovyea, zero difference with xanmod kernel. 8 second kernel load time.04:53
blistov:(04:53
blistovno good for embedded.04:53
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lotuspsychjemorning alkisg05:06
drownHello05:06
alkisgGood morning lotuspsychje, good morning all :)05:06
drownDoes anyone in here know anything about improting ann ssh key to Ubuntu SSO?05:06
drownI'm trying to do it, and I'm having trouble...05:06
sha1-lolok so sda{,1} didn't work05:07
sha1-lol(if you know your shell well you'll know what that means)05:07
drownI'm sorry sha1, what happens?05:07
sha1-loli couldn't boot when the bootloader was installed to sda or sda105:07
sha1-loli'll try sda2 next but i have much less hope this time05:07
sha1-lolis it possible to do the default LVM encrypted install (ie not "something else") and then remove swap afterwards?05:08
drownSha1 if you complete installation, you don't need to install again, you just need to know why you can't boot.05:08
sha1-lolbut it's less work to just reinstall05:08
drownYou can do the regular installation without LVM05:08
sha1-lolclearly i can't cause when i try i can't boot05:08
drownI do regular installs all the time and never use LVM05:09
sha1-lol>_>05:09
drownI do setup a wap though05:09
sha1-loldo you do LUKS too?05:09
sha1-loland EFI?05:09
drownNo I've never used LUKS05:09
sha1-lolyou should encrypt your disk05:09
drownand I've only had to use EFI one time.05:09
drownI have no reason to Encrypt my disk.05:09
sha1-lolthe only real way to erase data (especially on an ssd) is to encrypt all data in the first place, then throw away the key05:10
drownthat's fine I understand that.05:10
drownI don't use an SSD either lol05:10
drownNot yet anyways.05:10
sha1-lolok so with this option: http://i.imgur.com/nelmjV4.png05:10
drownI just have Hillary Clinton remove my data.05:10
sha1-lol>_>05:10
sha1-lolit's gonna create a swap partition, but at least it's gonna boot lmao05:11
sha1-lolcan i remove the swap afterwards05:11
drownI dont understand why it wont boot without a wap though, doesn't make any sense.05:11
sha1-lolwhat's a wap05:11
drownI have an Arch installation I'm on right now, and no swap05:11
mva:-/05:11
drownSWAP***05:11
sha1-loloh05:11
sha1-lolit's not that it won05:11
sha1-lol't boot without a swap05:11
sha1-lolit's that when i run the installer in a way that allows me to not do a swap partition, it doesn't boot05:12
sha1-loland when i do it in the way that installs a swap partition (i assume) it will because that's what i did on my last disk05:12
drownYes, but choosing something else is something most people do.05:13
sha1-loloh well05:13
drownAnd you say your using EFI rather than UEFI?05:13
drownHave you disabled Secure boot and fast boot?05:13
sha1-loloh when i say EFI i mean UEFI05:14
drownYes even better because I don't thin kEFI supports fast boot or secure boot05:14
drownBut alot of times people have to disable those, but with Ubuntu it really shouldn't be aproblem cause they have support for secure/fast boot05:15
drownIs the SSD the ONLY disk?05:15
sha1-lolyes05:15
drownAnd if so, I'm assuming you've set it to boot first before anything else in the BIOS?05:15
sha1-lolyes05:15
sha1-lolin the EFI firmware*05:15
drownAnd what message do you get05:15
drownah we still call it BIOS05:16
drowneven if it isn't.05:16
sha1-lolNo bootable media found or similar05:16
drownBut I'm assuming you can get a LIVEusb to boot?05:16
sha1-lolyes, as that's how i'm talking to you05:16
sha1-loland i booted the live usb with EFI05:16
alkisg!bootinfo05:16
ubottuBoot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.05:16
alkisgsha1-lol: what's the output of this script? ^05:17
sha1-lolwell i just re-initialized my SSD's partition table so i don't think that'll help you05:17
drownnever used it, but it's worth a try05:17
sha1-lolunless it wil05:17
alkisgsha1-lol: nah, if you're in the process of reinstalling, do that05:17
drownSo no one here has ever imported SSH keys to Ubuntu SSO? I have to do this in order to install Ubuntu-Core05:18
sha1-lolgotta reboot. "an error occured while configuring encrypted volumes"05:18
sha1-lolbrb05:18
drownI've had LVM encryption bite me before, which is why I prefer not to use it.05:18
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mvaisn't it somebody who runs 16.04 lxc container on libvirt on 16.04 host here? :-/05:20
lotuspsychjemva: better ask your real iisue mate05:21
sha1-lol_!help05:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:21
MrHooperI was trying to use kamailio with lxd but it appeared to rely on dnsmasq so I gave up on it05:21
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mvalotuspsychje: well, I already did it a bit above :) But if nobody can help with exactly it, I'd pretty fine with just looking at domain definition of working instance :)05:24
mvaand, well, ok, I'll repost issue:05:25
mva1) it doesn't limit container memory and processor cores to the values, specified in domain xml (i.e. `free` in the container shows all the amount of the memory, and lscpu shows all the cores of CPU)05:25
mva 2) somewhy, systemd throws a ton of messages similar to this: `Failed to reset devices.list on /system.slice/libvirt-bin.service/system.slice/-.mount: Operation not permitted` (although it is *priveleged* container)05:25
litteywhat is the busybox command in ubuntu05:27
litteyand what is the equivalent of that in RHEL distributions?05:27
Ben64you'd have to ask rhel support about rhel05:27
Fretegievening guys05:28
litteyBen64: sure but what about the busybox command thats an ubuntu command i presume05:28
Ben64BusyBox - The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux05:28
Fretegiwould someone mind taking a look at a samba issue?05:29
MrHooper!help05:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:29
alkisglittey: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/busybox => basically a set of utilities used in initramfs05:29
lotuspsychjemva: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxd.html05:29
Fretegii can manually navigate to the share using the engrampa (or whatever mates file manager is) but i cannot mount it manually05:30
Fretegihttps://pastebin.com/qrk0w65V05:30
Fretegithats the line i have in my fstab, and /etc/hosts has the proper ip for the share05:31
MrHooperFretegi: I would start by turning on any debug/logging, attempt to perform your desired operation again, and then closely examine logs05:32
MrHooperFretegi: at least by doing that you can gather more information that may be helpful to you05:33
alkisgFretegi: also, try that command from a shell, without using fstab05:33
FretegiMrHooper, typical samba vague output.  the only thing i find is in dmesg says failed with code 605:34
mvalotuspsychje: unfortunatelly, it doesn't :-/05:35
lotuspsychjemva: best way to solve your issue is repeat here once in a while with all details, ubuntu version, kernel version,steps tryed etc05:36
krwqhello, how do I mount usb device without changing fstab as regular user? when I click usb drive icon on UI I can mount the device but when I mount using command line it tells me that only root can do that05:36
alkisgkrwq: udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb105:36
Fretegiseems like a syntax issue... but i dont understand.. the share is /server1 on the server itself... so the fstab line should be //ip-here/server105:37
krwqthanks alkisg05:37
Fretegior am i missing something?05:37
alkisgnp05:37
Fretegii get the same output manually tring to connect05:37
lotuspsychje!mount | krwq05:38
ubottukrwq: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount05:38
alkisgFretegi: paste specific errors here05:38
alkisglotuspsychje: mount doesn't really work for regular users...05:38
Fretegi[   76.198824] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -605:38
Fretegiall i get lol05:38
alkisgFretegi: not in dmesg, but in the shell output05:38
Fretegimount error(6): No such device or address05:39
Fretegisame thing basically05:39
alkisgmount -t cifs etc etc05:39
alkisgWhat's your command line like?05:39
Fretegialkisg, /mnt/server# mount -t cifs //server/server1 /mnt/server/ -o credentials=/home/tom/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf805:41
Fretegialkisg, oh wait... do i need to specify the workgroup?05:41
alkisgFretegi: does it work if you put the ip there, instead of the hostname?05:44
Fretegialkisg, nope05:44
Fretegialkisg, but i can ssh into it using either the IP or the hostname so i know both resolve correctly05:45
Ben64what error does the mount command show05:46
Fretegimount error(6): No such device or address05:47
FretegiRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)05:47
Ben64well there you go05:47
Fretegibut why05:48
Ben64probably because you have the wrong device or address or samba isn't running05:48
alkisgFretegi: do you have a /mnt/server directory?05:48
Fretegii can ssh into the machine, and navigate to the share via the mate gui05:48
Ben64ssh != samba05:48
Fretegiworks just fine that way, but cant manually mount it.. i understand prolly a syntax issue but what is it?05:48
Fretegialkisg, i do05:49
Ben64try smbclient -L ip05:49
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lotuspsychjemarken: best not join irc as root05:50
lotuspsychjemarken: logout and come back as normal user05:50
FretegiBen64, appears to see the share05:52
Ben64did you have to log in05:53
Fretegiasked me for my pw yes, but just shows the shares, cannot browse them05:53
Fretegijust listed the shares05:54
Fretegihttps://pastebin.com/fA30H8hP05:54
Ben64well thats what the command i gave does05:54
Fretegibut yes, asked for my pw and my samba user pw worked fine05:54
Ben64not seeing server105:55
Fretegiholy geeze....05:55
Fretegithere is the syntax part....  glaring at me the whole time05:55
FretegiBen64, done!  man im sorry for wasting your time... feel like the first day over here....  i was using the friggen path to the share on the device not the share name within samba.. so a borked syntax as we thought in the beginning05:58
Ben64no problem05:58
Fretegiok callin it quits, have a good one guys.  thanks again for the help06:05
terfysgwrHaving some pretty gnarly apt-get errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/25770482/ started with emacs only - (this 00debian part), suggested fix was purging dictionaries-common, and reinstalling. Just added it to the issue. Not sure how to proceed as I dont know the original problem still06:20
terfysgwrsudo apt-get dictionary-commons returns an almost identical error. it doesnt want to fully configure to the the emacs error in the paste above06:21
lkhshouldn't "update-manager -c" inform about 17.10 as of today?06:24
dax17.10 isn't out yet06:24
daxi would expect it 12-24 hours from now, but the correct time is "whenever the release team is done with their checklist"06:25
lkhah, I see, I thought so becaus of the aardvark directory on archive.ubuntu.com ...06:25
frickshi, is there a data repair utility for bad or damaged cylinders on a EXT4 drive?06:35
UB8-8Hello, I am sure this has been asked a 1001 times, but WHEN is UBUNTU 17.10 releasing? I am writing from Spain. It's 08:40AM here :P06:40
UB8-8Hi06:41
UB8-8Anyone?06:41
alkisg!patience06:41
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:41
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inspironDALnet06:47
lkhlet me repeat what dax told me an hour ago: "whenever the release team is done with their checklist"06:50
daxyep. there is no set time. any set time you find, including the one on Launchpad, is a placeholder and not in any way informative :)06:51
C00kiemorning -)06:57
C00kieHow to load the kernel modules ip_conntrack and ip_conntrack_tftp / OA: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS06:58
C00kiesudo modprobe don't work06:59
C00kieor has Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS a new corresponding module?07:00
hateballC00kie: modinfo ip<tab> doesnt show conntrack at least07:04
stk_Hi, people!07:10
alkisgC00kie: don't know about conntrack, but to list available modules, run something like: find /lib/modules/ -name '*conntrack*'07:19
C00kiehateball: i found the solution, the name has been changed  from ip_conntrack_tftp to nf_conntrack_tftp07:20
C00kiealkisg: i found the solution, the name has been changed  from ip_conntrack_tftp to nf_conntrack_tftp07:21
linqqqqqqqhello07:22
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illuminatedI am using teamviewer on an ubuntu guest running in oracle virtualbox on windows  7 to connect to a windows 10 virtual machine on esxi that I'm using the wsus rsat tool to admin a wsus server.  haha.  I'm hoping to dump windows 7 on this box and natively install ubuntu at some point.08:11
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vimartHi08:16
vimartHas anybody notice problems with Firefox after upgrade?08:16
vimartI did upgrade my Ubuntu last night and Firefox crashed two times within and hour.08:16
bussduckjoin #docker08:19
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promilleHi. Isn't 17.10 planned to be released today? I tried "do-release-upgrade" from 17.04, but i get "No new releases" in return08:43
promille(not the exact output, but something to that effect)08:43
Ben64sometime in the next 23 hours probably08:43
promilleOK thanks :)08:44
promilleExcited about gnome :)08:45
MJ_Norhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/08:45
MJ_NorSeems to be there now :)08:45
alkisgHaha, they have i386 images for the server version but not for the desktop version :D08:46
promilleStrange08:47
* alkisg waits for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/17.10/ ...08:47
promilleProbably working like crazy to get it released though08:47
alkisgThey said they deprecated i386, but I didn't expect them to release a server i386 iso08:48
* alkisg wonders if this one is for raspberry pi... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/artful/release/ubuntu-17.10-preinstalled-server-armhf+raspi2.img.xz08:51
tahaHey every1, has 17.10 not hit the repos yet? It won't show up with "update-manager -c"08:52
promilletaha: doesn't show in do-release-upgrade either.08:53
tahapromille: OK. gotta wait US guys I guess08:53
promilletaha probably soon :)08:54
Ben64sometime in the next 23 hours probably08:55
Thumpxrhopefully soon ;)09:00
Claptrap_Hey guys! Do you know when ISOs for 17.10 will be online? I have some free time right now and I'd like to install it.09:01
Claptrap_?09:04
mozammelwhat time ubuntu 17.10 release will be available ?09:05
tahamozammel: we are waiting, no info on that so far09:06
sazawalI am having problems in connecting the university wifi. It is WPA2/PEAP/MSCHAPv2/No Certificate on Ubuntu 16.04. I can easily connect it on my Android, but not on the laptop. I have gone through some forums and tried to edit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<NetworkID> but with no results.09:12
sazawalDowngrading wpasupplicant is a solution some have suggested and worked for some too. But I skeptical about it, plus I have no idea how to downgrade a latest version package with so many dependencies09:14
vimartfunny, just did run Firefox on root and is working without problems :-/09:14
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Guest6887017.10 paradigm shift when?09:15
Guest68870tc says "19th october"09:15
Guest68870now is 19th october09:15
v3n0mubuntu 17.10 released?09:18
brainwash!17.1009:18
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+109:18
Guest68870hopefully canonical is not going to pull a doom 309:19
Guest72666Hi, everyone09:19
v3n0mhi09:20
Guest72666Wasn't today the day when Ubuntu 17.10 was going to be released?09:20
Ben64yep09:21
brainwashsazawal: I would check the system log (journalctl)09:21
v3n0mIts taking quite time to be updated on the download section of website09:21
Guest72666Oh, ok. Thank you.09:21
v3n0mthough its here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/09:21
Guest68870dang09:22
Guest72666I'm having a problem with samba.09:22
v3n0mI think that's the official iso.09:22
Guest72666And Ubuntu 17.0409:22
v3n0mBut still let it come on the website and then I'll download.09:22
brainwashsazawal: where did you read about downgrading wpasupplicant?09:22
Guest688702017-10-18 18:5309:22
Guest68870journalists can't even do their jobs09:22
Guest68870tf09:22
Guest72666I can't access any media stored in a Windows machine via samba09:23
Guest72666I could yesterday, though.09:23
Guest72666I don't know what happened.09:23
brainwashGuest72666: what error message do you get?09:24
sazawalbrainwash: Here, https://askubuntu.com/questions/690032/after-upgrade-to-15-10-wifi-to-a-corporate-network-wpa2-is-not-working-anymore09:24
sazawalbrainwash: I am not sure what keyword to look in journalctl. Maybe I should try reconnecting and then check the journalctl09:25
brainwashsazawal: yes. try that09:25
Guest72666brainwash None. I just open Caja (MATE) and click on network, then Windows network, and nothing appears there.09:25
brainwashsazawal: also, did you check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa ?09:25
Guest72666It doesn't see any printers either.09:25
hliasantGuest72666: can you ping the machine that is hosting the samba server?09:26
Scienideanyone know what time the 17.10 download link goes on the main page btw? also, will there be any real difference between Gnome Ubuntu and the main Ubuntu distribution? mostly what they preinstall?09:26
Guest72666hliasant Yes, I can even control the windows machine via VNC.09:27
brainwashGuest72666: the windows Fall Creators Update comes to mind. was the system upgraded yesterday/today?09:27
sazawalbrainwash: Thanks, I didnt check the big reports, it is often too technical for me. So, I search on askubuntu forums instead. This man has exactly the same problem as me, https://askubuntu.com/questions/929680/cant-connect-to-wpa2-enterprise-peap-network . The thread is unsolved.09:27
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Guest72666brainwash You mean Ubuntu?09:28
brainwashGuest72666: windows 1009:28
Guest72666brainwash Oh, sorry. I don't think so. I can access media and print from Mac Os.09:29
Guest72666via samba09:29
brainwashok09:29
Ben64Guest72666: smbclient -L ip09:30
Guest72666Ben64 WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated09:31
Guest72666Ben64 session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE09:31
Ben64then you have the wrong logon09:32
Guest72666Ben64 This is what I get when I do "sudo service samba status":09:33
Guest72666● samba.service09:33
Guest72666   Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad)09:33
Guest72666   Active: inactive (dead)09:33
hliasantGuest72666: Do you have credentials to access the smb?09:33
Guest72666hliasant Yes.09:34
Ben64according to the error you do not09:34
hliasantGuest72666: smbclient -U <username> -L <IP>09:34
Guest68870currently installing 17.10 (Paradigm Shift)09:34
hliasantit then asks for a password09:34
Guest68870will report soon09:34
Guest72666As far as I know, the password's still the same it always has been.09:35
hliasantGuest72666: yeah, did you type that in the smbclient command?09:36
Guest72666hliasant No, I didn't, sorry.09:36
Guest72666hliasant I'm going to do it right now.09:37
hliasantGuest72666: report back :)09:37
Guest72666hliasant Connection to 192.168.1.4 failed (Error NT_STATUS_RESOURCE_NAME_NOT_FOUND)09:39
Guest72666NetBIOS over TCP disabled -- no workgroup available09:39
Guest68870From installation menu09:41
Guest68870"Supported software:09:42
Guest68870Flash"09:42
Guest68870so it wasn't a paradigm shift after all09:42
mzKasHello ppl09:42
mitmfLibUSB 1.0 required to compile rtl-sdr <— what’s wrong?09:43
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mitmfCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:70 (message):09:43
mitmf  LibUSB 1.0 required to compile rtl-sdr09:43
Ben64aren't you the dude on some unsupported raspbian offshoot09:44
mitmfwhat you mean? Ben64 ?09:44
Ben64you're running some unsupported raspbian offshoot on a raspberry pi. this is #ubuntu09:45
Guest72666hliasant Whenever I try to install the printer, it asks me to verify the Samba service is marked as trustworthy at firewall settings...09:45
mitmfbut i just do it on ubuntu09:45
mitmf:(09:45
Guest72666But the firewall is actually disabled.09:45
brainwashmitmf: install libusb-1.0-0-dev09:45
Ben64mitmf: sudo apt install rtl-sdr09:46
mitmfthanks brainwash :)09:47
mitmfbrainwash: how?09:47
Ben64mitmf: sudo apt install rtl-sdr09:47
brainwashmitmf: it's the package name09:47
mitmf apt intall rtl-sdr09:48
mitmfE: Invalid operation intall09:48
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Ben64it's "install" not intall09:48
mitmfoh09:48
mitmf:|09:48
mzKasquick question, 17.10 will be released today right? im still using rc...09:49
mitmfBen64: error is same09:49
mitmflol09:49
Ben64whats the error09:49
promillemzKas: yes, we're waiting for it09:49
mboardmitmf you are running it with root access?09:49
mitmfNo package 'libusb-1.0' found09:49
Ben64thats not rtl-sdr09:49
mzKaspromille, ty ^^ thought it was just me :P09:49
promillei think its 1.0.009:49
Ben64if you want rtl-sdr install rtl-sdr09:49
promilleapt-cache search libusb09:49
Ben64don't have to do this library stuff at all09:49
tahamzKas: how has your system been with RC? any major problems?09:53
mzKastaha, not really, no09:54
sazawalbrainwash: Sorry, it took time. Here is the output of journalctl while i was connecting to the wpa network, https://pastebin.com/eDQ21WFb09:54
mzKasi havent stress tested yet though09:54
mzKasjust normal use09:54
mzKasbrowsing, mailing (thunderbird) etc09:54
mzKasskype, slack, not much09:55
tahamzKas: I see, still cool, they have come a long way, it was stressful with older releases :)09:55
mzKaswhen i tried alpha 2 or 3, dont really remember, i had trouble installing almost everything09:55
mzKasit would "crash unexpectedly" every time09:56
mzKaswith just a fresh install09:56
mzKasremmina didnt work09:56
mzKasreally bad experience09:56
mzKasbut now everything works at lease what i use daily09:57
mzKas*least09:57
tahaI think it's due to switch from X to Wayland09:57
mzKasalpha didnt have wayland yet i think, not so sure09:57
tahado you have it now with RC?09:58
mzKashave to boot my personal laptop, but i think so09:58
brainwashsazawal: not sure. I suggest to file a bug report and attach this log snippet09:59
mzKasim in beta 2 after all :o no wayland10:00
sazawalbrainwash: I see. I will do probably if I dont find a fix.10:00
brainwashsazawal: you should test with the wpasupplicant package from trusty (version 2.1), and maybe from debian oldstable also (version 2.3)10:01
mozammelI'm currently using ubuntu GNOME 17.04, I want to upgrade to 17.10, but I'm afraid that I will lose all my email in of Evolution. is there any way to avoid it ?10:01
Ben64backup10:02
brainwashsazawal: the debian one can be obtained from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/wpasupplicant10:04
Guest72666What does "unit samba.service is masked" actually mean?10:04
brainwashmasked = disabled10:04
mozammelanybody knows when ubuntu 17.10 will be available to download ?10:05
vitalkanevmozammel: Later this day or so... Mostly tomorrow10:06
mozammelits already 10:06 GMT10:06
mozammelI see.10:07
AnthaasIs there a way to make applications not have their menu bar showing by default?10:10
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Impatient1guys, is the release listed here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ the final one? Can I download the ISO and burn it?10:11
sazawalbrainwash: Thanks, I downloaded the old version. But first I have to remove the latest version. On the synaptic when I try to remove wpasupplicant, it says that Network Manager and ubuntu-gnome-desktop will be removed. They are important packages, I am not sure if I should go on with uninstalling them.10:11
brainwashsazawal: you shouldn't have to remove the current version10:12
vitalkanevImpatient1, yep. I don't even see the 'beta' word10:12
sazawalbrainwash: Oh, so I just install the old version deb package?10:12
brainwashsazawal: it will be removed/replace during the downgrade process10:12
brainwashyes10:12
sazawalbrainwash: I see. Let me try this first then.10:12
Impatient1@vitalkanev Thanks10:13
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sazawalbrainwash: It worked! I installed the old version and restarted the laptop.10:20
SolskogenUbuntu Server was announced that it came with the new Subiquity installer, but to me it seems like the installer is the same as it "always" was10:21
Solskogenis there a special iso to download to use that?10:21
sazawalbrainwash: Now I see an update of wpasupplicant in the package manager, which I obviously don't want to upgrade. How would I suppress the upgrade of this particular package and install all others. I usually upgrade the packages from apt command or from the ubuntu notification window.10:22
aviiHy10:23
brainwashsazawal: with can prevent updates with "sudo apt-mark hold wpasupplicant"10:23
nick265468463513@search vallista10:24
brainwashsazawal: woops. the beginning of my sentence got messed up :)10:24
sazawalbrainwash: No worries. I tried apt-mark and it works. Thanks a lot10:25
sazawalbrainwash: So in the future if I want to upgrade wpasupplicant. I do dist-upgrade right?10:25
brainwashsazawal: you "unhold" it first10:26
brainwashor install a newer .deb manually10:26
brainwashthat should reset the hold status also10:27
sazawalbrainwash: Okay. Thanks you saved my day. Are you an Ubuntu developer?10:27
brainwashnope sazawal10:29
brainwashI guess a dev would keep mentioning to file a bug report, and therefore to properly fix this issue10:30
brainwash:P10:30
brainwashthere's version 2.6 packaged for debian (experimental), but it may not install cleanly10:32
brainwashdue to newer dependencies10:32
sazawal_brainwash: Sorry, I missed the first part of your sentence.10:33
Ben64sazawal_: bad idea to use an old version10:33
johnnybegoodDoes anybody know what will happen to additional installed display managers when upgrading to 17.10? Will their existence remain on my system?10:34
sazawal_Ben64: I can understand. But the internet just doesn't work without the downgrade. I didn't find any other fix on the internet.10:34
Ben64sazawal_: have you heard of krack10:35
sazawal_Ben64: No, what is it?10:35
Ben64big new wireless vulnerability10:35
brainwashBen64: trusty and debian oldstable do included the fix10:35
hateballsazawal_: https://www.krackattacks.com/10:35
Ben64not if you downgrade wpa-supplicant!10:36
Ben64using older packages is usually a bad idea, but this is extra bad10:36
brainwashcare to explain?10:36
Ben64look at the site hateball linked10:36
brainwashthe packages are patched10:36
hateball...10:37
Ben64not if you use an old version10:37
brainwashsazawal_: which package version did you install exactly?10:38
sazawal_Ben64: Yes I never use old packages. There seems to be no other way to connect to the university internet. I don't know how a latest android package smoothly connects to the network and the latest ubuntu package (free of vulnerabilities) doesn't.10:38
brainwashwe are talking about "old" as in from an older (but still supported) ubuntu/debian release10:38
sazawal_brainwash: I have installed wpasupplicant 2.3-1 deb8u510:39
sazawal_brainwash: I see. I am very intermediate in computers.10:39
Ben64what os is this10:39
sazawal_Ben64: Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome10:40
Ben64on what kind of computer10:40
sazawal_A new Thinkpad bought last year10:40
Ben64so why are you using a totally non ubuntu wpasupplicant10:40
brainwashBen64: please read the backlog10:41
sazawal_Ben64: Perhaps you missed the problem I posted. I couldn't connect to the University network, it is WPA2 Enterprise/PEAP/MSCHAPv2. My android phone connects and works smooth.10:42
sazawal_and No certificate10:42
Ben64wow so you suggested installing a package from a different disto10:42
Ben64thats a horrible idea10:42
brainwashthat is how you debug a problem10:42
brainwashit is not10:42
Ben64no, that's how you create more problems10:42
brainwashis that a problem?10:43
brainwashno10:43
sazawal_Ben64: Well more problems or less problems depends on the package. And so far I don't see a problem.10:43
Ben64installing packages for different versions/distros IS a problem10:43
sazawal_Ben64: Okay, if you can guide me to a page to download wpasupplicant 2.3 for Ubuntu, I would install it. When I searched, I ended up on the same page as brainwash has sent me.10:44
brainwashsazawal_: I assume that you would have to compile it from source10:45
Ben64a patched wpasupplicant 2.3 doesn't exist for xenial10:45
brainwashso?10:46
sazawal_Ben64: So what do you suggest?10:46
Ben64did it work before october 16th10:46
sazawal_I guess there is 2.1, I read somewhere10:46
v3n0mits 19th and there is no sign of ubuntu 17.10 on the website10:46
v3n0mlool10:46
Ben64v3n0m: cool10:47
sazawal_I wasnt at the University before October 16. And the home network from a router did work for me before.10:47
Ben64so you could try the older package from ubuntu and see if you could connect10:47
v3n0mben64 I am waiting so much10:48
v3n0mwhy they don't update the website?10:48
Ben64it's not out yet10:48
sazawal_Ben64: Sorry, I am away from home for 3 months. But I just checked and my home network is WPA Personal. If it stops working with the old version then I will shift back to the newer version.10:49
v3n0mSo when will it be then?10:49
Ben64sometime in the next 20 hours10:49
johnnybegoodIt's already there :D https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes10:50
Ben64not yet10:51
sazawal_Ben64: The worse is that the IT department of the university tried for hours and couldn't fix it. There is a university page where the details for connecting to the network on linux is given. But probably the page is outdated and they dont mention anything about wpasupplicant versions.10:51
Thumpxrit is, although do-release-upgrade doesnt see it10:51
Ben64Thumpxr: ergo, it's not out10:52
johnnybegoodah ok10:52
nasthi there. How do I tell ufw to route local net traffic 192.168.1.0/24 (incl. broadcast addresses) on specific interface wlp1s0 but keep internet traffic routed to tun0?10:53
simosxIs Ubuntu 17.10 officially out? Are http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ the final ISOs?10:54
gbs-ufamyep10:54
Ben64nope10:54
v3n0ma yep and no10:55
v3n0mlool10:55
gbs-ufambut it is the final one10:55
Ben64not necessarily10:56
simosxProbably yes, but the date of the .iso is from yesterday.10:56
gbs-ufamyesterday mirrors had final beta 210:56
hliasantalso, the torrent file is from 19th10:57
tomeaton17I am trying to add a single file to path, and I tried to do it with sym links but it gives me an error "too many levels of symbolic links". What is the best way to add a single file to path10:57
Ben64put it in a directory by itself and add that directory to path10:58
tomeaton17I think the program uses other programs in the directory its in however10:58
mzKasme wants 17.10!11:02
Thumpxrprotip, upgrade with do-release-upgrade -d /s11:03
Ben64for the development version11:04
CookiePlayMCHello11:05
klf# echo 'ibase=16; 0xe + 0x1' | bc11:08
BluesKajHiyas all11:09
v3n0mhow come ubuntu budgie 17.10 has 32 bit version when there is no official 32 bit version?11:09
v3n0mlool11:09
Ben64theres no 32bit version of ubuntu desktop, the other flavors can do other things11:10
TJ-v3n0m: Budgie is aimed at lower-powered PCs which may well be older, 32-bit only, CPUs11:12
gbs-ufamnice, i didnt knew this distro11:13
gbs-ufami use a hp tablet as notebook, could be nice for me (hp x2 pro 612 g1)11:13
v3n0mbut if the official ubuntu 17.10 does not support it11:18
v3n0mhow does it support?11:18
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hioHow do I fix the behavior of 'apt search' ? it returns packages that merely internally somehow depend on the search term. obviously when im searching, i am seraching for a package name11:28
geirhaapt search --names-only searchterm11:29
geirha(described in man 8 apt-cache)11:30
hionow I have to type all that out every time11:31
geirhaif you want better control than that, I suggest installing and using aptitude11:31
TJ-hio: "apt-cache search -n ...."11:31
* BluesKaj just uses a package manager as a reference11:31
TJ-hio: see "man apt-cache"11:31
BluesKajlike synaptic or muon11:31
TJ-BluesKaj: doesn't help on a server or in a VM/container/chroot etc. :)11:32
BluesKajTJ-, yeah, well i use neither of those11:33
mzKashey, is http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/17.10/ the final release?11:43
mzKasit dates 18-1011:44
SicnusLooks like the website isn't updated for anything 17.10 related just yet.  Maybe later in the day.11:45
TJ-mzKas: release.ubuntu.com has the final images so if mirrors are updated it is11:45
mzKasyeah but in the mirrors there is and it doesnt say beta or rc11:45
TJ-mzKas: typo. releases.ubuntu.com11:45
mzKasso its on, website just not updated yet11:46
mzKasyey11:46
demophobiaIs there dictation software better than espeak to listen to text?11:47
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TJ-!info libttspico-utils | demophobia11:49
ubottudemophobia: libttspico-utils (source: svox): Small Footprint TTS (binaries). In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1.0+git20130326-5 (zesty), package size 7 kB, installed size 29 kB11:49
OlofLI just updated to 17.10. Now my alt+mouse drag wont movie windows, but instead its superkey + drag. How do I revert this?11:52
ddoobbAny way to get windows like peek on taskbar hover?11:52
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yudihello12:08
yudianyone is here12:08
demophobiaI've found that searching the Synaptic Package Manager for 'speech' (as well as the Internet on this question) turns up Festival and other results.12:09
demophobiagoodnight yudi12:09
yudinice12:10
rolerrunning ubuntu 17.10 beta2 now - curious when the final is released, do I just do apt update/upgrade? or is it recommended that I reinstall? I haven't ran a beta ubuntu before12:10
daveomcdcan i upgrade to 17.10 from terminal? I tried sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade dist-upgrade but nothing12:11
Ben64daveomcd: when it officially comes out yes12:11
Ben64roler: yep12:11
kostkondaveomcd, that's not how you do a release upgrade though12:11
roleryep which one :)12:11
daveomcdoh!12:12
daveomcdwhen does it offically come out? I just read about it coming out and assumed !12:12
demophobiadaveomcd, 17.10 = 2017, october12:14
demophobiait's YY.MM12:14
geirhashould be officially released some time today. Just relax and check back in the morning12:14
TJ-daveomcd: use do-release-upgrade12:14
daveomcdok thanks!12:15
TJ-releases.ubuntu.com and many mirrors already have the ISO images12:15
demophobiadoes using the LTS mean less problems will be encountered?12:15
rolerdemophobia: not necessarily. just means its supported longer ( security fixes, etc )12:16
TJ-demophobia: LTSs try to be very stable; in-between releases are more geared to moving to newer upstream versions of packages where we may have problems... those are mostly ironed out (hopefully) by the next LTS12:16
geirhaand you don't have to upgrade twice a year12:17
demophobiasounds like i'm on the right track, then, though i was tempted to be envious of daveomcd "getting new features"12:18
daveomcddemophobia, :)12:18
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freakyyomg ubuntu is released today :D12:31
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SicnusI'm still getting "Development" version when I try and upgrade12:39
Sicnus"Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Artful Aardvark' development release"12:39
Ben64yep12:39
krashekspressI upgraded to 17.10 and now my kernel says its lowlatency, is that fine, should I switch to generic?12:47
freakyywhat is a lowlatency? ... for audio low latency?12:48
freakyykrashekspress: how do u see ur kernel is lowlatency?12:48
ddoobb17.04 point release out? How can I find out?12:49
krashekspressuname -r returns 4.13.0-16-lowlatency12:49
freakyyddoobb: 17.10 is released today12:49
freakyyoh for me its generic strange ;D12:49
ddoobbI mean specifically the point release.12:50
krashekspressfirst time I see lowlatency in kernel name, that's why I'm asking12:50
ddoobbAt which LTS users get notification to upgrade12:50
freakyyddoobb: sorry i dont know what a point release is ;D u mean the new 17.04.x12:50
freakyy?12:50
freakyyis 17.04 LTS?12:50
freakyyi thought 16.04 is12:50
vin317.10 launched already?12:51
freakyyvin3: no12:51
vin3:(12:51
ddoobbOh yeah point release is only for LTS12:51
freakyygo to #ubuntu-release-party and type in !isitout12:51
vin3yay ty freakyy12:51
freakyyvin3: np ;D12:51
warri0rr;; def f(x):\nreturn x12:54
warri0rrops12:54
Claptrap_Hey guys! Do you know when ISOs for 17.10 will be online?12:56
freakyyClaptrap_: i dont know but i already run 17.10 ;D12:56
freakyyas beta12:57
freakyy;D12:57
Claptrap_All articles say the release day is October 19th12:57
Claptrap_But I have been waiting all day and nothing12:57
Claptrap_:(12:57
freakyyon omgubuntu.co.uk they say its already out12:57
freakyyhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/ubuntu-17-10-release-features12:57
freakyyClaptrap_: check that article12:58
freakyy;D12:58
Claptrap_damn it they uploaded the ISOs but didn't update the website12:58
Claptrap_thx12:58
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ddoobbWhat do I gain by upgrading from 16.10 to 17.0413:00
vin3Guys, I'm in 17.10 beta2. Can I update by dist-upgrade normally?13:01
freakyyvin3: yes u can13:02
vin3ty freaky13:02
freakyyvin3: wait13:02
vin3ok13:02
freakyyvin3: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade13:02
freakyydo it like this13:02
BluesKajvin3, no, sudo do-release-upgrade13:02
vin3hummmm. ok ty13:02
BluesKajif you mean th new ubuntu release13:03
BluesKajworks for 17.0413:04
freakyyhe already has 17.10 beta13:05
freakyyr u sure u have to do do-release-upgrade if he already has ubuntu17.10?13:05
freakyyi dont do it like that13:05
BluesKajok , then i stsnd corrected , should have scrolled up13:05
vin3no new release...13:05
vin3I think dist-upgrade13:06
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freakyyyea its upgrade && dist-upgrade13:06
freakyyalways do upgrade before dist-upgrade13:06
vin3but ty BlueKaj13:06
freakyy;D13:06
BluesKajvin3, not if your on 17.10 already . freakyy is correct13:06
freakyy;D13:06
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vin3yay ty guys...13:06
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freakyynp hf ;D13:06
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allurehey guys... why is that ubuntu asks me for a password when I try to ssh to another machine from the command line?13:07
freakyyallure: because u have a password on the other machine?13:07
BluesKajvin there might be a few new packages if you've been updating and upgrading daily when the release is official13:07
freakyyoh wait13:07
BluesKajvin3,^13:07
TJ-allure: because you need to log-in on the remote machine13:07
freakyyallure: if u have a different user account u have to write: user@host.tld13:07
allureyeah, but it is my local system asking the password13:08
freakyyso eg. freakyy@mynewsshhost.tld13:08
freakyyallure: strange, did u use sudo?13:08
TJ-allure: what command are you using?13:08
holahola13:08
allurenope, no sudo13:08
allurejust ssh root@...13:08
estacion5_hola13:08
allureI have a ssh key there13:08
vin3what packages? BluesKaj?13:08
TJ-allure: the key is added to the root account of the remote machine?13:08
allureTJ-: yes13:08
BluesKajvin3, dunno13:08
TJ-allure: use "ssh -vvv ..." to get debug output13:09
estacion5_how are you13:09
allurenice idea TJ-13:09
TJ-allure: maybe the key isn't being used.13:09
alluresec13:09
vin3BluesKaj, ty13:09
TJ-allure: do you have many different local SSH IDs (keys)13:10
allureTJ-: yeah ,it's a permission problem it seems13:10
allurenope, just the one for now13:10
allureI will chmod them and test again13:10
allureshould the .ssh directory have 0600 permissions or what?13:12
allurealso, the keys 0600 as well?13:12
TJ-allure: sometimes with lots of IDs locally you need to use "IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_XXX" and "IdentitiesOnly yes" in .ssh/config for the host entry (or same via command-line) otherwise the client offers up more certs than the remote server will test and it'll fail non-obviously13:12
krashekspressallure yes13:12
allureTJ-: thanks13:12
allurekrashekspress: thanks13:13
allure:)13:13
freakyyisnt there some tool, which generates a key, puts it on the other side etc. all automatically13:13
freakyywhat is that command called again?13:14
krashekspressssh-copy-id user@server.example.com13:15
freakyyahy es thanks ;D13:15
allurekrashekspress: yeah, I know that hehe13:15
allureI have a key created13:15
allureand already sent there13:15
allurejust have to get the perms right13:15
freakyyi bought a book yesterday - Learn Python 3 the hard way :D13:16
TJ-Artful Officially Released  :)13:16
freakyyi like it ;D13:16
freakyyyay :D13:16
freakyyis there any voice channel where ppl celebrate? :D13:17
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hateball!release13:17
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases13:17
hateballugh.13:17
hateball!releaseparty13:18
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Saucy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2534/13:18
dserodioI installed and applied the "Ultra Flat" theme on my Ubuntu 17.04 w/ Unity, but it seems like something (theme engine?) is missing, because GTK doesn't look like the screenshots. How can I troubleshoot this?13:18
hateballHaha saucy ^^13:18
TJ-Everyones doing the Timewarp :p13:18
vithiriWhy is the dock at the bottom of the screen at http://www.ubuntu.com? :S13:21
freakyyid ont know but its easy to set differntly13:22
freakyydserodio: try logging in into the right session13:22
vithiriYes, it just seems to be a peculiar design decision for the first picture that's displayed at the main site. :)13:22
triceratuxit is the dawning of the age of aardvarkius13:23
ghghgfhciao13:24
ghghgfhhello13:24
ghghgfhbonjour13:24
freakyyhi13:24
BluesKaj!English13:24
ubottuPlease avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList13:24
ghghgfhwe have raspberry?13:25
freakyywhat ;D13:25
dserodiofreakyy: How do I log in into a different session? I didn't install an alternative desktop, only the default Unity is installed AFAIK13:25
ghghgfhraspberry pi 3... is fantastic!13:25
freakyydserodio: ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu were merged. there is no more unity. when u r at hte login screen, see the that ... umm ... how is it called? knockwheel?13:26
freakyyand there u can choose ur session13:26
ghghgfhi'm go out hello!!!!!!13:26
freakyywell there is unity13:27
freakyyu can install it but i dont htink they still support it13:27
freakyyit was abandoned13:27
freakyyafaik13:27
dserodiofreakyy: I'm running 17.04, which I believe still uses Unity13:28
freakyydserodio: i thought u upgraded to 17.10?13:28
dserodiofreakyy: not yet13:28
freakyyah ok13:28
freakyythen i cant help u13:28
freakyysorry13:28
Tin_mandserodio, at the log in screen you can try unity 8 or reg unity13:29
dserodiook, thanks13:29
dserodiobrb13:29
klemax For video compression, whats the most useful solution?13:30
nszcetaQuestion for y'all. Is it possible to use a docker image similarly to a command line executable13:35
leftyfbklemax: the one that fits your needs the best13:36
leftyfbnszceta: you probably want #docker13:36
SicnusIs there a howto on how to upgrade from 17.04 -> 17.10 ?13:36
hateball!upgrade | Sicnus13:38
ubottuSicnus: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:38
leftyfbsinduck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_17.0413:38
leftyfbSicnus: ^13:38
Sicnushateball: Should it still say:  "Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Artful Aardvark' development release"?13:42
mitmf-bash: cmake: command not found <— what’s wrong?13:43
triceratuxguys distrowatch says the 17.10 iso is http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso but its still dated yesterday. shouldnt i wait for todays desktop image to appear in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/17.10/release/ along with the server ISOs ?13:43
leftyfbSicnus: not if you run your upgrades13:44
leftyfbmitmf: cmake isn't installed13:45
mitmfoh then how can i do?13:45
leftyfbmitmf: install cmake13:45
mitmfapt-get install cmake or apt install cmake?13:45
leftyfbmitmf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware13:45
leftyfbmitmf: what is it you're trying to do that you need cmake yet don't know how to install software?13:46
mitmfyes13:47
mitmf:)13:47
leftyfbthat wasn't a yes or no question13:47
leftyfbmitmf: why do you need cmake?13:47
mitmfi install git hub13:47
mitmfso i need it13:47
leftyfbmitmf: github or git?13:47
mitmfgithub13:48
leftyfbmitmf: you're trying to run your own github clone?13:48
mitmfyes13:48
leftyfbwhy?13:48
mitmfinstalling program13:48
mitmfNo package 'libusb-1.0' found  <— what’s wrong?13:48
leftyfbmitmf: what program?13:49
mitmfi don’t know it exactly13:49
leftyfbI don't know of a single "program" that requires you to install your own github clone13:49
leftyfbmitmf: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?13:49
tieinvtriceratux, i get todays date here http://releases.ubuntu.com/13:50
mitmflol13:50
mitmfwhy you want it?13:50
mitmfit is my private13:50
leftyfbtriceratux: take that up with distrowatch ... 17.10 isn't released yet13:50
maszloI hope can craft what the correct question is.  yesterday while at work i updated my notebook from 17.04 to 17.10, no issue.  I get home and get a weird error on boot error of "error invalid video mode specification text, booting in blind mode"  after this it appears that / is mounted in read only and get slew of things failing to start up13:50
leftyfbmitmf: because I'm pretty sure you're going about this all wrong and there's a simpler way13:50
leftyfbmaszlo: try #ubuntu+1   17.10 isn't released yet13:51
maszloI thought this was something of grub and how the stuff is started up, but using recovery complained that was still only read only.  frustrated and late, i shut it down13:51
triceratuxleftyfb: yep will id have to take it up with sourceforge as well http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Linux-Distributions/ xubuntu looks like its ready to go tho13:51
maszloleftyfb: oh sorry, thought today was release day13:52
TJ-leftyfb: Artful has been released13:52
leftyfbmaszlo: It is. But it's still not released. Also, your issue started yesterday.13:52
triceratuxindeed im saying proceed with caution. no sense in installing yesterdays image with todays due in a couple hours13:52
maszloleftyfb: true.  thing is that it booted today when back in different location (office)13:53
leftyfbTJ-: ah, so it has. My bad. They're usually not this quick13:53
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TJ-leftyfb: learning from experience ... eventually... a new leaf with a new alphabet :)13:53
triceratuxi dont think anything changed in the main desktop between yesterday & today so they just greenlighted the image. carry on13:54
TJ-maszlo: do you have something affecting video modes set on the kernel' command-line? check /etc/default/grub13:54
leftyfbtriceratux: though to be honest, if you're installing a server, unless you know you NEED some particular version of a package only available in 17.10 and not in 16.04, I would stick with 16.0413:54
TJ-maszlo: or cat /proc/cmdline13:54
maszloTJ-: I think i did make it so splash didnt load.. let me check what else could be a mess13:55
triceratuxleftyfb: for real work i positively use 16.04.3. its basically the best distro out there. i have 17.10 installed for reference basically. theyve done a fine job13:56
TJ-maszlo: which version of GRUB is installed? I'm seeing bugs like this for GRUB v113:56
maszloTJ-: I think  you might be on to something.. I noticed after upgrade i was getting a 30 sec grub time out.  my /etc/default/grub is what i used to have of 3 seconds13:57
maszloso something is out of whack13:57
TJ-maszlo: for GRUB 2/16.04 I'm seeing it can be to do with switching between UEFI and Legacy/BIOS boot modes, too13:58
maszloTJ-: i have 2.02-beta3 installed13:58
maszloI have my bios do both, legacy first then uefi13:59
maszloTJ-: but nothing new changed with that13:59
sfdebughi, does anyone know if ubuntu already released a security fix for WPA2 problem?14:00
TJ-maszlo: is it a UEFI system? in which case try ensuring /etc/default/grub has "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=auto"14:00
TJ-sfdebug: Yes, last Monday14:01
sfdebugTJ-, how to i know if my system is fixed?14:01
leftyfbsfdebug: apt-cache policy wpasupplicant|grep Installed14:02
maszloTJ-: honestly i am not remembering why i used that option. think its was from booting other OSs.14:02
triceratuxsfdebug: http://lubuntu.me/wpa-vulnerability-fixed/14:03
sfdebugleftyfb, TJ- , thanks!14:03
leftyfbsfdebug: that tells you what version wpasupplicant you have installed. You can determine based on the version.14:03
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sfdebugleftyfb, what's de version that is fixed?14:07
leftyfbsfdebug: what version of ubuntu are you running?14:07
sfdebug14.0414:07
leftyfbwhat version wpasupplicant are you running?14:07
sfdebugInstalled: 2.1-0ubuntu1.514:08
TJ-sfdebug: "apt-get changelog wpasupplicant"14:08
leftyfbyup, that's the updated version14:09
leftyfbsfdebug: also, time to upgrade. I would suggest upgrading to 16.04 soon and then to 18.04 in April14:10
Sven_vBwill 18.04 have bt-audio again?14:13
TJ-Sven_vB: "again" ?14:14
Sven_vBTJ-, starting 16.04 I couldn't find a way to connect my bluetooth headphones via shell.14:15
sliptteesHi folks14:15
TJ-Sven_vB: did you use bluetoothctl ?14:16
sliptteesSet my kylin-greeter default. But have caracters in china. How change this?14:16
Sven_vBTJ-, no idea, it was long ago. I'll make a note to try that.14:16
TJ-Sven_vB: when you do, the first commands to issue always should be "agent on" then "default-agent"14:18
TJ-Sven_vB: then you can use  "scan on", then "devices". use "help" to learn about the other commands for pairing, trusting, etc.14:18
Sven_vBTJ-, will do, thanks!14:19
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TJ-For 17.10 before install/upgrade, please read the Release Notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes/14:23
* TJ- hopes to save a lot of brain-ache :)14:24
Pici!artful14:27
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/artful14:27
trystarrhi there14:29
sliptteeswait 18.04 LTS :-)14:29
trystarri have a question including the java runtime enviroment14:29
trystarrmy java version is 1.8 and i want to install a programm that needs the 1.6 version otherwise the programm wont start. should i uninstall the 1.8 version or what could i do ?14:31
UzemHi, Do you think I can get a web gui for all the following tasks? Dynamic DNS, Firewall, Proxy, VPS,  Network monitoring, Data traffic monitoring, Backup.14:32
UzemI'd use ubuntu as a server in a network and I'd like to remote these things via a gui.14:33
leftyfbtrystarr: you should be able to install multiple versions of java14:34
leftyfbUzem: there are solutions. But you are better off using ssh14:34
mgaunardhow do I update grub after having changed /etc/default/grub14:35
mgaunardthere is no update-grub command14:35
leftyfbmgaunard: if there is no update-grub, then you are not running Ubuntu or have heavily modified it14:35
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UzemYes, I will, but I have to solve this as well. No matter how many gui I must instal but must have a surface for everything.14:35
mgaunardleftyfb, I am running ubuntu 16.0414:36
UzemI checked Webmin and ajenti, but there are missing parts. Also I want to use this server as a router.14:36
UzemI have to give graphical reorts monthly14:36
Uzem*reorts reports14:37
leftyfbUzem: sounds like you need to hire someone who knows the right tools for such a thing14:37
Uzemleftyfb: I have a person who does the ssh part of the job, but he doesn't know anything about gui.14:40
leftyfbUzem: you know you can create graphical reports without mucking up your server with web interfaces right?14:40
Uzemleftyfb: No, i didn't know that14:41
leftyfbUzem: also, it sounds like you actually want some sort of commercial network appliance. Which would have all these things built in ... with support.14:42
mutanteUzem: Plesk.. but don't do it, i will dirty saying the word :)14:43
mutantefeel14:43
leftyfbmutante: what word?14:43
Sicnus/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release14:43
SicnusChecking for a new Ubuntu release14:43
SicnusNo new release found.   odd.14:43
mutantethe word "Plesk"14:44
leftyfbmutante: Uzem never mentioned the word Plesk14:44
SicnusNot having much luck.  heh14:44
leftyfbmutante: nor did anyone else14:44
leftyfbSicnus: what version of ubuntu are you running and what version are you trying to upgrade to?14:45
mutanteleftyfb: that's correct. he didn't, i did. he asked for GUI solutions for server administration. i named one. i added that i dont recommend using it14:45
leftyfbUzem: regardless, there's logging tools like logstash and logstalgia. There's also sar and sysstat. Then you can use something like rrdtool or just write to csv files and use excel or some other reporting tool to generate your pretty reports14:46
Uzemleftyfb: Thank you for the ideas14:46
leftyfbUzem: those are just a few examples. You should research more14:47
bigpicAnyone know how to disable 16.04 from auto importing a zfs pool?14:47
Sicnusleftyfb: I'm runnning 17.04  trying to go to 17.1014:47
joem86trystarr, I recommend using docker for that purpose14:47
bigpicI added ZFS_MOUNT=no in /etc/defaults/zfs but it did nothing14:47
leftyfbsinduck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_17.0414:47
joem86otherwise, you can install java 6 from here: https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/zulu-linux/14:48
joem86zulu is just a signed build of openjdk, so you should be fine14:48
joem86once you do that, run `sudo update-alternatives --config java`14:49
mutanteleftyfb: so how did you get from "alternatives to webmin" and "graphical reports" to "logging tools"14:51
leftyfbmutante: he wants to generate reports14:52
zybellmutante: reports are generated from logs14:53
mutanteif somebody says "web GUI" and "i tried webmin" it still seems a lot more reasonable to me to answer with "Plesk" than with "logstash"14:53
leftyfbmutante: "<Uzem> I have to give graphical reorts monthly"14:55
leftyfbmutante: I'm pretty sure this was the entire reason they assumed they needed a "GUI"14:55
zybellthe question is will sb turn a knob or see what is there14:55
mutante"gui for all the following tasks? Dynamic DNS, Firewall, Proxy, VPS,  Network monitoring, Data traffic monitoring, Backup"14:56
zybellif u want to see: log!14:56
leftyfbmutante: I prefer to help people do things properly. Like manage a server without a GUI. I got the impression the only thing they were actually looking for was pretty graphs to show management. You don't need a web interface on a server to do that.14:58
mutantei answered that question, straight.  but ok, i'm the weird one, let's assume what is good for him14:58
leftyfbyup, that's how I do things14:58
zybellSECURITY14:59
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leftyfbmutante: if someone was told elsewhere in order to install a game they need to rm -rf / ... they ran it and got permission denied ... would you help by telling them to add sudo to the beginning?15:00
zybell(on the web) is better if not too many things run15:00
mutanteleftyfb: he asked for a GUI to do web administration. he named an example he tried. i listed a well-known alternative.  the example doesnt make any sense15:01
coffeeisnicehi15:01
leftyfbmutante: it makes a lot of sense when the solution they asked for isn't actually the solution they're looking for15:01
TJ-well I prefer the kind of report that grep gives when it doesn't find anything :)15:02
mutanteleftyfb: he asked for a web GUI to do all the things. i'll stop repeating the same line, also .. i just stopped caring15:02
leftyfbmutante: bottom line, I help people with the solutions they're actually looking for ... not necessarily always what they ask for15:03
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zybellTJ: compare grep to make:)15:03
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lorddaedraI see, 17.10 is out but http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release is still old.. It should be updated soon or after several days?15:04
lorddaedra(going to upgrade 17.04)15:04
mutantegot it, i'll get into logstash for firewalling and VPN15:04
acresearchubuntu 17.10 bug report: tweek tools dark theme does not work on any application even after restart the system several times15:04
leftyfbacresearch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs15:05
acresearchleftyfb: i am not going to make an account again, from my experience i report bugs and they do no get addressed, i am just going to leave it for someone else to report it. sorry15:06
maszloacresearch: my tweak tool dark theme works just fine on 17.1015:07
leftyfbacresearch: if you already had a launchpad account, you don't need to make a new one. Login with the one you had before15:07
acresearchmaszlo: hmmm strange, it worked when i had ubuntu-gnome 17.0415:07
acresearchleftyfb: i deleted it15:08
leftyfbacresearch: why?15:08
TJ-acresearch: try creating a new (clean) user account on the PC and logging into it. Sometimes these issues are caused by left-over config entries in the user's profile. A clean profile can prove/disprove that possibility15:08
acresearchleftyfb: i reported the incorrect arabic keyboard many times (i even wrote a fix for it) and it never got implemented15:08
acresearchTJ-: hmmm i formatted the HDD and re-installed ubuntu cleanly.15:09
TJ-acresearch: often it needs more than a bug report to get action. Sometimes directly subscribing someone repsonsible, or even fnding them in #ubuntu-devel, helps. Most dev's are already over-subscribed so need poking directly to gain their attention15:10
TJ-acresearch: in which case a fresh login isn't likely to help :)15:10
maszloacresearch: that is the difference with my results. mine was working after 17.04 to 17.10 upgrade15:11
acresearchTJ-: true, but it is too much work to imporve the system (if the dev does not care, there is nothing i can do)15:11
acresearchmaszlo: hmmm strange indeed15:11
TJ-acresearch: understood, and agreed. We get many more bug reports than can be dealt with, without bringing any other development to a complete halt for a year or more!15:12
acresearch17.10 so far is perfect, just the dark theme because i work late nights a lot15:12
maszloit did by default have it unselected after upgrade for some reason, but it worked on newly opened apps and retained after reboot15:12
acresearchTJ-: i understand15:12
TJ-acresearch: maszlo are you both using the Wayland backend, or is one or other of you using Xorg ?15:13
TJ-that could be a key difference15:13
TJ-Wayland is known to have broken many theme/color/screen/etc type stuff15:13
maszlohmm I am honestly not sure. just took the upgrade, was not an option15:13
eelstreborsince i have gnupg2 installed why can't i simply remove gnupg without a bunch of other packages being removed?15:13
acresearchmaszlo: maybe i should shutdown instead of restart?    TJ- i downloaded ubuntu 17.10 from the website standard no other source15:13
nacceelstrebor: because a bunch of packages depend on gnupg?15:14
TJ-maszlo: "ps -efly | grep Xorg"15:14
maszloi will have to check that in a little bit, booted into kali at the moment to test something15:15
maszlo3 system on one notebook, have to share their time15:15
TJ-You need to bring the others up in VMs :)15:16
acresearchTJ-: S acresea+  1717  1706  0  80   0  1088  5364 pipe_w 18:16 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto Xorg15:17
TJ-acresearch: so you're on pure Waylan - no Xorg15:18
acresearchTJ-: oh15:18
eelstrebornacc, why can't they be automatically be associated with gnupg2? i'm assuming that gnupg2 is "new and improved" version of gnupg15:18
maszloTJ-: have not done local vms for few years.  what is the way to go with that?  Use esxi for work and proxmox is what tested with at home15:18
TJ-acresearch: if maszlo's system does use Xorg then that'd be a big indicator that's the cause15:19
TJ-acresearch: I believe at the log-in screen you can use the Cog icon to choose "Ubuntu on Xorg" which will not use Wayland. Then try changing the theme, see if that works15:19
acresearchTJ-: oh ok15:19
acresearchok will do that15:19
acresearchTJ-: so what is the difference between these teo systems?15:20
maszloi have heard about wayland for years, but have only used know where config and gotchas are in xorg.15:21
nacceelstrebor: the output differs, etc.15:21
TJ-acresearch: Xorg is a server (runs apps) and client (draws the display) design that can work over remote network connections too. Wayland is a protocol for local-only compositors. Gnome implements a Wayland compositor15:22
acresearchTJ-: ok, i'll log out and try to see how to i can change   be back in a sex15:23
acresearchTJ-: ok, i'll log out and try to see how to i can change   be back in a sec15:23
nacceelstrebor: nothing gets "automatically" its dependencies changed. Most packages in the development release (well, now released) 17.10 do not depend on gnupg115:23
SpacebearI gotta say, The default theme went from "bad" to "completely awful gaw my eyes out" in 17.1015:24
TJ-Spacebear: really?15:24
Spacebearyea the ambiance theme does not work on gnome, all buttons are blurry/stretched15:24
Spacebearand the colour scheme on login is bad.15:24
Spacebearthey should have just used the Ubuntu-Gnome themes15:24
nacc"is bad" seems mighty subjective15:25
Spacebearthe buttons do not work in gnome, the brown colouring on the login screen makes things hard to read.15:25
TJ-Spacebear: This release will allow such problems to be ironed out before the next LTS release 18.04, which starts development now15:25
naccjust tried Ambiance, seemed fine here15:26
maszloSpacebear: i was surprised was not the ubuntu-gnome look too.  has been my install since it came about. I ran from unity from the start15:26
* eelstrebor is trying to free up disk space for /usr instead of buying a bigger hdd15:26
Spacebearalso the overly "bubble" ui buttons don't look very good with the modern look of gnome either15:27
Spacebearnacc, https://nofile.io/f/NqOoqj6z5sQ/Screenshot+from+2017-10-19+12-26-42.png15:28
acresearchTJ-: hmmm did not work. anyway is there a different way to get a dark theme?15:28
Spacebearbuttons are fuzzy and have obvious blocks around them15:28
blistovwhere does 'update-initramfs' decide what kernels to build initrd's for?15:28
blistovie: it's trying to build for non-existent kernels15:28
Spacebearraidiance looks a bit better.15:28
TJ-acresearch: that's good from the point of view of it not, apparently, being a Wayland issue! Not sure otherwise. Could be down to the graphics driver, screen resolution, or something entirely different15:29
TJ-blistov: /var/lib/initramfs-tools/15:29
acresearchTJ-: hmmm, but it worked in ubuntu-gnome 17.04 could there still be changes?15:29
naccSpacebear: perhaps was the wrong image, but I don't see anything obviously wrong there15:29
TJ-acresearch: lots!15:29
acresearchTJ-: i see15:30
Spacebearthe notches/lack of ailising on them, the jgp compression kinda makes it hard to see15:30
depandjoin satnogs15:31
nullbyte_when can i do do-release-upgrade?15:31
naccnullbyte_: whenever you want?15:31
nullbyte_it shows nothing to do at now.15:32
freakyynullbyte_: if ure runnign 17.04 u can do it already15:32
nullbyte_for 17.1015:32
nullbyte_yea 170415:32
freakyystrange15:32
naccnullbyte_: using the official mirrors?15:32
freakyyare u sure u havent already upgraded to 17.10?15:32
naccnullbyte_: it can some time to propogate15:32
nullbyte_nacc15:32
nullbyte_true15:33
nullbyte_maye 2-3 days15:33
nullbyte_or 1-215:33
naccnullbyte_: not sure why that needed to be said?15:33
razorzlol15:34
* nullbyte_ slaps aloril around a bit with a large trout15:34
wasutton3is there a handy way to force displayport Alternate mode over a USB-C connection?15:34
acresearchwindows do not snap right and left in 17.10? or did the mechanism change?15:35
the-dingoI'm having a weird problem since I updated last month to 17.04 and it still exists in 17.10. The networks disconnects periodicaly and no logs are being generated. Any help on further debugging?15:36
clgis anybody using an emacs package to manage bookmarks stored on pinboard?15:37
habeaskorpuswifi/lan?15:37
habeaskorpus@ the-dingo15:37
acresearchTJ-: i realised something in the tweek tools, there is an error symbol in the tweek tools next to the shell under appearance, could this be the issue?15:39
TJ-the-dingo: you mean no logs of the disconnect, or no logs in /var/log/ at all?15:39
TJ-acresearch: well, it doesn't sound like something that should be there, but I've never used/seen that so I can't be sure. You need someone familiar with the latest GUI tooling15:40
acresearchTJ-: who would that person be? is he in this channel?15:41
TJ-acresearch: I have no idea :)15:41
the-dingoTJ- No logs when disconnecting. It looks like the logging its working because I get logs from other applications, but nothing on the disconnection.15:41
acresearchTJ-: ok :-)15:41
mozammelUBUNTU 17.10 released yet ?15:41
mozammelor they missing the date ? LOL15:41
TJ-the-dingo: are you looking in /var/log/syslog, or via "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service" ?15:41
acresearchmozammel: yes15:41
lordcirth_workmozammel, yup, this morning15:41
LinnerisCD images are up but do-release-upgrade isn't detecting the new version for me yet15:41
Linnerisis it supposed to?15:41
acresearchmozammel:  i am using it now15:42
TJ-Linneris: there's a web-site text file has to be updated, that d-r-u checks15:42
lordcirth_workacresearch, liking it?15:42
mozammelacresearch: can you give me the link ?15:42
Linnerishttp://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/15:42
Linnerisor rather: https://www.ubuntu.com/ :)15:42
acresearchmozammel: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=SA&version=17.10&architecture=amd6415:42
lordcirth_workBy the way, consider using zsync from http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ if you have a 17.04 iso already, to avoid hammering their servers needlessly15:43
acresearchlordcirth_work: so far yes, except for the dark theme issue and the left/right window snapping15:43
lordcirth_workacresearch, what's wrong with the snapping?15:43
mozammellordcirth_work: iI dont know what is zsync ?15:44
acresearchlordcirth_work: so usually you could stick windows on the right or left of the screen, this is not happening only to the top15:44
lordcirth_workmozammel, if you have a 17.04 iso already, you can tell zsync to download the new iso, but use any bits from the old one that haven't changed, so it downloads less15:44
acresearchlordcirth_work: oh wait, it is working now, sorry15:44
lordcirth_workOr if you're downloading both desktop and server, avoid duplicating15:45
the-dingoTJ-: Both, and nothing relevant is there.15:45
lordcirth_workSaves bandwidth for both parties15:45
TJ-the-dingo: is it a Wifi device? have you checked /var/log/kern.log - maybe a driver problem15:45
bigpicanyone know of a way in 16lts to prevent a ZFS pool from being automatically imported at boot?15:45
acresearchlordcirth_work: yeh the snapping is working now, not sure why it was't in the past, so only issue is the dark theme is not working, which was nice in gnome, gave it a nice look and comfortable on the eyes15:46
mozammellordcirth_work: wow.. that very interesting... its like updating ... are there lot of risk of system crash ? they will provide the checksum  ? let me check15:46
lordcirth_workmozammel, it checksums everything of course15:46
lordcirth_workIt's based on rsync15:46
lordcirth_workAlso the isos always have a self-test when you boot them15:46
mozammellordcirth_work: I will try now.15:46
lordcirth_work24% saving for me between 17.04 desktop and 17.10 desktop15:47
the-dingoTJ-: I'm using wired connection. And It might be a kernel problem because it worked correctly with 16.04 with the same driver, but kern.log also does not have any info on that15:47
mozammellordcirth_work: I check, I have ubuntu-gnome-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso15:48
ubonehello i just installed ubuntu 16.04 from mini.iso / network install , and created one user as prompted - how to use apt / what is the expected default way to escalate access for system administration?15:49
lordcirth_workubone, prepend 'sudo' to the command15:49
TJ-the-dingo: can you show us "pastebinit <( uname -a; cat /proc/cmdline; lspci -nnk )"15:49
ben_bprmHello, only got a minor problem here, my laptop has a subwoofer and as you probably know subwoofers dont work with ubuntu out of the box, from what ive read anyway, how can i make it work?15:49
ben_bprmthe subwoofer is grayed out in audio settings to15:50
ubonethanks ^^15:50
ben_bprmwhen did you no longer need to log in btw?15:50
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Cat_BPRMokay then i needed to15:51
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d_1_stortionso when is 17.10 rolling out?15:52
TJ-it's already rolled15:52
Cat_BPRMHey TJ-15:52
d_1_stortionwell I'm still running beta15:52
TJ-Cat_BPRM: :)15:52
acresearchTJ-: i installed gnome-tweak-tool is this the correct one?15:53
Cat_BPRMsay TJ- you wouldnt know how to make my subwoofer work? its built-in to my laptop15:53
TJ-d_1_stortion: well, "apt full-upgrade" will soon solve that15:53
Cat_BPRMafter you fix this guys problems15:53
Cat_BPRMits not urgent15:53
TJ-Cat_BPRM: it could require some form of platform-specific audio driver info which Linux doesn't have. Can you switch ALSA profiles to one using the SW and test it?15:54
d_1_stortionTJ-, who do you mean with soon?15:54
TJ-Cat_BPRM: try to use ALSA tools to prove it works first, *then* figure out how to ensure PulseAudio uses that correct profile15:55
Cat_BPRMTJ- ALSA?15:55
TJ-Cat_BPRM: the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, the underlying audio drivers and tools15:55
Cat_BPRMand whats SW... im still a noob with ubuntu remember15:55
Cat_BPRMall i know is how to make it look sexy15:56
the-dingoTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25773397/15:56
TJ-d_1_stortion: as in, that command will upgrade all packages to match what is on the final ISO, if any late changes were made15:56
TJ-Cat_BPRM: SW - sub-woofer15:56
Cat_BPRMso how do i switch the also profiles?15:56
Cat_BPRMalsa*15:56
d_1_stortioneh, I just run lsb_release and it says 17.10 :)15:57
TJ-the-dingo: so the device is the "03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI"15:57
qz1How to install gnome shell extension in 17.10 ? I want to install Window List or Window List Mod ext.15:57
the-dingoTJ-: Yes, if it helps, im using the `r8169` driver15:58
maszloqz1: http://extensions.gnome.org/15:58
TJ-Cat_BPRM: you can list all available with "aplay -L". read "man speaker-test" for more details on diagnosing, but it's a very long time since I used that so I cannot remember the exact steps15:59
TJ-the-dingo: does the local interface drop, or does then entire device disappear?16:00
nicomachusqz1: gnome-tweak-tool is helpful as well as the link maszlo posted16:00
TJ-the-dingo: let's see if there are any clues from the kernel. show us "pastebinit <( tail -n 750 /var/log/kern.log )"16:00
TJ-oops, too late16:00
TJ-the-dingo: let's see if there are any clues from the kernel. show us "pastebinit <( tail -n 750 /var/log/kern.log )"16:01
razorzWhen you do a do-release-upgrade does it poll the server to check for an update or is it looking at a local file that's updated daily during the apt update16:01
Cat_BPRMTJ- This is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/25773425/16:02
TJ-razorz: it polls the changelog server16:02
razorzTJ-: ty16:02
seanhI've got a ThinkPad X240 here and no wifi option is showing in the network manager applet - tried with Ubuntu 16.04, 17.04 and the new 17.10. It's as if the laptop has no wireless card. And indeed `sudo lshw -C network` shows two ethernet interfaces but no wireless network ocntroller. Any ideas?16:02
TJ-Cat_BPRM: can you match one of the profiles that includes a 'woofer' with your PC's actual configuration.16:02
TJ-Cat_BPRM: maybe surround21 ?16:03
leftyfbseanh: is there a physical button on the side to disable wireless?16:03
TJ-seanh: Yes. possibly the ACPI DSDT hasn't powered it up16:03
seanhleftyfb: not that I can find, no16:03
leftyfbseanh: https://www.laptopmag.com/images/uploads/3296/g/lenovo%20thinkpad%20x230_g13.jpg   something like that16:04
Cat_BPRMTJ- yes it looks like surround21, 2 speakers facing me and subwoofer under16:04
the-dingoTJ-: Just the connection drops. The interfaces stay the same. Even the address stays. It fixes itself after approximately  half minute.16:04
the-dingoTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25773445/16:05
the-dingoTJ-: Every interface up and down i because I manualy restart Networkmanager16:05
seanhleftyfb: I don't see one, I don't think the ThinkPad X240 has a button like that16:05
TJ-Cat_BPRM: I forgot how exactly but there's a Pulseaudio tool to select the correct profile. I think I found I had to use a command-line tool, possibly "pactl" with options to choose that profile. You should first look in the GUI audio settings though, and see if that profile is selectable16:05
seanhTJ-: Hmm, maybe upgrading the laptop's firmware would help if that's the problem16:06
TJ-Cat_BPRM: if it already is selected, but the woofer is disabled/not working, then there's an underlying driver issue16:06
Cat_BPRMTJ- there is no way to choose aprofile in the audio settings16:06
SicnusWhen I do:  update-manager -c  it says "The Software on this computer is up to date."  I've even checked:  Updates -> Notify me of a new Ubuntu Version: "For any new version"   :/16:06
TJ-seanh: I've just found another user reporting with X240 that indeed there is an ACPI workaround. On this page search for "acpi_osi": http://blog.gabrielsaldana.org/debian-on-lenovo-thinkpad-x240/16:06
qz1nicomachus, ok, but it doesn't work. I try via firefox install ext. and install manually to .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/and dont see in this tweak tool extension.16:07
TJ-Cat_BPRM: really? I thought the pulseaudio control panel had a profile chooser16:07
Cat_BPRMhold on16:07
seanhTJ-: I'll give it a try16:08
Cat_BPRMim looking in system settings, is pulse audio a seperate application16:08
TJ-Cat_BPRM: on mine, there's 5 tabs starting with Playback, Recording,... and ending with Configuration, where there's a Profile drop-down selector16:08
leftyfbsinduck: did you try do-release-upgrade?16:08
TJ-Cat_BPRM: often just called Audio Settings, but usually it should start the pulseaudio control panel - unless your DE has take over than and not provided the function16:08
TJ-Cat_BPRM: if that is the case install "pavucontrol" package and then run that app16:09
Cat_BPRMthere is something called pavucontrol on my system but it wont show up when i search it, just a jpeg16:10
TJ-the-dingo: crying out loud! You've got some errors there! I think you might need to add "noaer" to the kernel's command-line via /etc/default/grub and the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." entry16:10
Cat_BPRMhttps://imgur.com/a/i1jWa this is all i have in audio settings16:11
oerheksCat_BPRM, what audichip is this exactly? lspci would tell16:12
Sicnusdo-release-upgrade  Checking for a new Ubuntu release  No new release found.16:12
TJ-Cat_BPRM: ahh, looks like that's not PA's actual control panel. Install and run pavucontrol as I recommended16:13
Cat_BPRMTJ- turns out i need to install pavu control, oerheks ill find out for you16:13
BluesKajSicnus, from 16.04 ?16:14
Sicnusnope:  17.0416:14
Cat_BPRMoerheks http://paste.ubuntu.com/25773495/16:14
seanhTJ-: I don't think that worked, added the thinkpad_acpi kernel module and rebooted but still nothing16:14
TJ-seanh: did you add the acpi_osi= part too?16:15
BluesKajSicnus, make sure you update and upgrade your existing packages first then do-release-upgrade16:15
TJ-seanh: that'd be the key part to enable full functionality16:15
TJ-Sicnus: check "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" has "Prompt=normal"16:16
Sicnusyeah I did:  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get autoremove then I rebooted...16:16
Sicnusand then I've done the do-release-upgrade and nothing yet :/16:16
Spacebeardid you add -d?16:16
SicnusPrompt=normal16:16
TJ-Sicnus: that's because http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release hasn't had 17.10 added as yet16:16
Spacebearits sudo apt do-release-upgrade -d16:16
naccSpacebear: no it's nnot16:16
naccSpacebear: do-release-upgrade is its own comand16:16
Spacebearthats what I did16:16
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naccSpacebear: that didn't do anything :)16:17
SicnusSpacebear: that's for development16:17
TJ-Sicnus: sometimes it takes a while for the release team to rememeber to update that file. I've had to remind them a few times over the last decade :)16:17
Spacebearwell I'm running ubuntu 17.10 now16:17
naccSicnus: are you on 17.04?16:17
Spacebearand I was running 17.0416:17
BluesKajSicnus, and ppa-purge if you have any in your repos16:17
SicnusTJ-: lol16:17
Cat_BPRMTJ- im going to go through the list of profiles as there is no surround2116:17
TJ-Cat_BPRM: anything mentioning left + right + woofer though?16:18
TJ-Cat_BPRM: that's what 2.1 is short-form for16:18
seanhTJ-: Yeah I did that, still nothing. No wireless card showing in lshw16:18
parclytaxel_Question16:18
SicnusTJ-: go yell at them for me ;)16:18
TJ-seanh: does the PC have wired network right now? if so, do "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )" please16:18
parclytaxel_I want to upgrade from 17.04 to 17.10 but Software Upgrades is not showing that a new release is available16:19
parclytaxel_What do?16:19
naccparclytaxel_: wait a bit16:19
parclytaxel_nacc: Hm? Is it that it hasn't got onto the servers yet or what?16:19
naccparclytaxel_: the metadata is not yet updated to propogate release upgrades16:19
Cat_BPRMTJ- none of them seem to work16:20
naccparclytaxel_: you can do it mannually, if you want, or just wait until it shows up16:20
parclytaxel_ok16:20
nacc(where manual is `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`16:20
parclytaxel_Should I expect around two to three days for the propagation (i.e. until Sunday)?16:20
naccparclytaxel_: seems reasonnable. I thinnk it'll probably happen today16:20
seanhTJ-: https://pastebin.com/PPJTrNW016:21
BluesKajhould only take a few hrs16:21
BluesKajshould16:21
oerheksmaybe installing oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily  is your fix,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure#Step_316:22
oerheksfollow set 3, with installing linux-image-extra-`uname -r`  and so on16:23
TJ-seanh: hmmm, no sign of it. Silly question, but do you know for sure the laptop does have a wifi card in it; have you used it with another OS ?16:25
Cat_BPRMTJ- none of them seem to work16:26
seanhTJ-: IIRC the first time I booted Ubuntu on this it had wifi in the network manager applet, but it kept failing silently when trying to join a network. Since then (after rebooting both the same and other versions of Ubuntu) nothing. I haven't actually had the wifi working in any OS. It'd be odd if a ThinkPad X240 hard no wifi card in it though, these laptops do come with wifi. I may try and install Windows from a USB to16:27
seanhsee if it works in there16:27
bigpichey guys I’ve got 2 ubuntu nodes attached to a shared JBOD controller.  The problem I’m having is that each node imports the volume at boot resulting in both nodes having it imported at the same time which is a no no16:27
bigpici can’t figure out a way to tell ubuntu not to import zfs volumes at boot16:27
bigpici’ve mokey’d with /etc/default/zfs but it doesn’t appear to be used16:28
bigpicany ideas?16:28
ShadowmmI have a M4A79xtd Evo mother board and im wondering if i will be able to run 2x XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 in crossfire16:29
analogicalwhat is the name of the default program folder?16:29
the-dingoTJ-: I booted with noaer and the problem persists.16:29
TJ-the-dingo: darn!16:30
TJ-seanh: does the PC dual boot with Windows?16:30
quartershello. I was wondering if anyone can help with figuring out why a port 6000 isn't open (tested through curling http requests to it as well as using nmap) even though ufw is disabled16:30
TJ-seanh: I've read of some systems where, due to ACPI issues, enabling wifi requires booting into Windows then warm-rebooting to Linux16:30
seanhTJ-: No, it came without any OS on it, and currently it has only Ubuntu on it. I could install Windows over Ubuntu though16:31
seanhTJ-: Yeah, it could be that I just need to boot Windows and enable it. Which would mean I'd need to install Windows first16:31
TJ-seanh: first off, lets try finding out if there's a better acpi_osi string. do "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort" and show is the result in a pastebin please16:31
Cat_BPRMTJ- would sean's problem be fixed with tricking the acpi into thinking ubuntu is windows, for future reference if i help others16:32
TJ-Cat_BPRM: that's precisely what we're doing already, but may not have the correct OSI string so we're going to check that16:32
Cat_BPRMahh16:32
seanhTJ-: https://pastebin.com/Kc1Yys7m16:34
TJ-seanh: OK, looks like "Windows 2013" would be a better OSI. Do you know how to edit /etc/default/grub ?16:36
seanhTJ-: Just edit the file with sudo, save, and reboot?16:37
TJ-seanh: open the file (need's sudo privileges), alter GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, remove any existing acpi_osi= entry, replace it with (exactly as I type it): acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\"16:37
TJ-seanh: after saving, do "sudo update-grub" then you can reboot - the new entry has to be added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg by update-grub16:37
edmzis it still posible to do a do-release-upgrade from 10.04 LTS?16:37
edmzI haven't been able due to some packages not authenticating.16:38
TJ-edmz: via 12.04 LTS, yes with some work since 12.04 is now on old-releases.ubuntu.com not archive.ubuntu.com16:38
freakyyedmz: oh ure far behind ;D16:38
freakyyi dotn know though16:38
seanhTJ-: Did you mean to type acpi_osi= twice in your example?16:39
TJ-edmz: you'd have to go 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 to get to a supported version16:39
freakyyelse, get 17.10 and reinstall teh system ;D16:39
TJ-seanh: EVERYTHING I typed after the :16:39
TJ-seanh: verbatim16:39
edmzTJ- : I already changed that. This is not the first time I've done this. But this is the first time I get that error and that so much time has passed16:39
edmzfreakyy : haha yeah16:39
freakyyedmz: ;D16:40
freakyyi just did that16:40
TJ-edmz: the authentication is because you need to manually fetch/install the updated ubuntu-keyring.deb package16:40
freakyyon my big desktop pc and on my laptop16:40
TJ-edmz: see https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-keyring16:40
konradosHi, just out of curiosity. I use KDE, I've been looking for something in settings, below the "eye on the desktop" option I found "Suck windows into desktop to show the latter. This might remind you of something." - isn't "suck" a rather informal word? :P16:40
freakyyi wonder, should i try out kde, mate, budgie aswell?16:41
freakyymaybe just kde16:41
TJ-konrados: like being sucked down a plug-hole16:41
freakyythough i find, kde doesnt look as good as gnome16:41
freakyyi find gnome is ... really frienldy ure like put in a box and ... everythins so beautiful ;D u dont wanna leave ;D16:41
freakyysince 17.1016:42
konradosfreakyy, I used gnome and moved to KDE simply because KDE has more options, I can make it working the way I want. Gnome, at the time I tested it, was rather limited in this matter16:42
|Night|hey isthere any reason why do-relase-upgrade does not work from 17.04?16:43
TJ-|Night|: release files haven't been put up yet16:43
seanhTJ-: Ok, did that, and sudo update-grub and rebooted: still no wireless in lshw, and now network manager applet isn't there at all for some reason. /etc/default/grub contains both GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=!\"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\""16:43
|Night|TJ-: : cheers :)16:43
TJ-seanh: ahhh... you missed out a vital space, between the ! and the \16:43
seanhah16:43
freakyykonrados: hm, so u think i should try kde?16:43
TJ-seanh: should be acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\"16:44
|Night|30 sec. to downlaod full iso not bad16:44
freakyy|Night|: yay ;D16:44
freakyyalways good to have fast internet ;D16:44
seanhOk, I couldn't copy paste, will try again16:44
TJ-seanh: the first tells the kernel to delete its entire list of entries, the 2nd tells it to only use "Windows 2013"16:44
|Night|50MB/s16:44
freakyyoh yea that's nice ... though thats around 1Gbit/s or something? ;D16:44
konradosfreakyy, not really. If Gnome has everything you need, then there is no need imho:P16:45
edmzTJ- : thank you, trying that16:45
freakyykonrados: yea ... i like gnome ... i dont have anythin i need in addition. what was it that kde has and gnome not?16:45
|Night|w1G is 12816:45
|Night|108.0MB/s   on server16:46
konradosfreakyy, sorry, I don't remember, but I do remember it was more than one thing.16:46
|Night|1.40G  71.0MB/s    in 19s can do better16:46
freakyykonrados: hm ok ... ill have a look at some screenshots of kde on ubuntu 17.10 and see if i wanna switch16:47
freakyyor well, have both options16:47
|Night|TJ-:  do you know when fiels get pushed so that i can upgrade16:47
edmzTJ- : do you know if there is an older keyring than that? the one you linked is from 2012. I just installed it, I see the keys with apt-key but I get the same error.16:47
konradosfreakyy, ehh, but, no, the "look" had literally no meaning to me. The level I could customize it had.16:47
seanhTJ-: I see. Fixed now but it's still not working. Here's my complete grub file currently: https://pastebin.com/gmr97JJx16:48
TJ-edmz: I wonder if the key signing 10.04 has been revoked?16:48
TJ-seanh: confirm the setting was used by the kernel with "cat /proc/cmdline"16:49
ironratwhy does the ubuntu usb tutorial say to set rufus to MBR?16:50
seanhTJ-: Yeah it's there16:50
TJ-seanh: I've seen this kind of issue before. I recommended - and it turned out to be correct - opening the PC and reseating the Wifi card firmly. The fact there's no sign of it whatsoever in the kernel says as the hardware isn't talking16:50
ironratisn't gpt the preferable option at this point?16:50
seanhTJ-: Hmm, I'll google and see how easy that is to do on this laptop (ThinkPad X240)16:50
TJ-seanh: they're usually mini-PCIe adapters. require a couple of cross-head screws removing, lift up to about 30 degrees and then pull out, then reseat firmly and screw down16:51
dserodioI'm running 17.04 and trying to update to 17.10, but after run 'update-manager -c', it tells me "The software on this computer is up to date"16:51
TJ-seanh: I've seen an lspci for the X240 and it should have an Intel Wifi device as 03:00:016:51
TJ-dserodio: changelog server hasn't had artful added yet16:51
dserodioTJ-: thanks, do you know when it should work?16:52
TJ-dserodio: when the release team get around to it :)16:52
dserodio:)16:52
freakyyis there any good gnome tool, or any tool, that can work with my mobiile phone like, connect to it usin wifi send files to it, accept phone calls over pc and so on? oO16:53
seanhTJ-: Yeah it should have one, I've seen someone else's lshw from an X240 before. Also I installed Ubuntu on another X240 just a couple weeks ago and the wifi worked fine. Found a YouTube video, re-seating the card looks doable, I'll let you know if it works16:53
TJ-seanh: here's a good photo https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3-hZ-6p1ndI/maxresdefault.jpg16:53
TJ-seanh: make sure to fit the antennas back carefully if you remove them - those connectors are fragile and fiddly to align correctly. there should be a feeling of a gentle snap/click when they fit correctly16:54
ironrathow much space should i give the system partition? 20GB?16:55
lordcirth_workironrat, depends, how big is the drive?16:56
SicnusTJ-: can I just do a sed statement on my sources.list ?   s/zesty/aardvark/g  ?16:56
Sicnusthen apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?16:57
nicomachusSicnus: no!16:57
ironratit's a 256gb ssd that I'm sharing with windows lordcirth_work16:57
TJ-ironrat: depends if you're splitting directories across different file-systems. I use rootfs 8GB, /var/ 6GB, /boot/ 1GB /home/ 50GB16:57
* Sicnus just got his hand smacked while reaching into the cookie jar.16:57
lordcirth_workironrat, so how much space do you have for Ubuntu?  And are you keeping data in a shared ntfs partition?16:57
TJ-Sicnus: no, but you can simply add appropriate entries to the end of /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release16:57
* dserodio was about to do the same thing Sicnus suggested :)16:58
TJ-Sicnus: that's where the changelog server file gets downloaded to16:58
ironrati was going to give ubuntu (/ and /home) about 100GB, give or take, and I dunno16:58
ironratI think yes16:58
ironratI also have a 2TB HDD16:58
ironratI'm going to be storing most files on16:58
Sicnusnicomachus: I guess we'll have to wait for this file:  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release  to be updated before anyone can update the "right" way?16:59
TJ-ironrat: I use LVM, give the space to the VG and then only extend LVs as they need it16:59
ironratI just want some extra space for a few fat games and programs that would benefit from the SSD speed16:59
nicomachusSicnus: TJ- explained how you can modify it16:59
dserodioSicnus, it's already been updated16:59
* dserodio crosses fingers and updates to 17.1017:00
Sicnushooray!17:00
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lordcirth_workironrat, I use a btrfs partition with / and /home subvols; but if you're not familiar with btrfs that might not be wise17:01
ironratyep, no clue17:02
lordcirth_workAnd an /SSD_data subvol to put games on my SSD.17:02
TJ-Sicnus: don't get your hopes up; the dist-upgrader hasn't been added yet to archive.ubuntu.com17:02
ironratI feel like 80GB space for games/programs and 20GB for the root partition would work, if it could split like that, and if 20 isn't overkill for root17:03
SicnusTJ-: it seems to be working now bud.  Thanks.17:03
TJ-Sicnus: oh, it has! They've used the wrong path though (compared to other releases) used "arty" instead of "arty-updates"17:03
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TJ-s/arty/artful/17:03
TJ-seanh: are you opening it up now or just pondering it?17:04
ironratmaybe i'll just install the sucka and let ubuntu wing it17:05
Cobraxthis channel vs ##linux17:05
seanhTJ-: Trying to put it back together! :)17:06
naccCobrax: are you asking a question?17:07
TJ-seanh: I'm surprised it doesn't have a trap-door above the slots - my Dells do, and can take 3 cards17:07
ironratif i have seperate root and home partitions, where do the games go? /home, I assume, but if I put /home on my HDD, and wanted to install one or two games on my SSD instead, would I have to create another partition like /home2 or /ssdgames for that on the SSD? im guessing it won't go in root17:07
Cobraxnacc,17:08
Cobraxsure17:08
TJ-ironrat: you could have a directory /home/$USER/games/ and mount another file-system there containg just your games17:08
mzKasyey skype "minimize to" on close is already failing17:09
ironratcan I just put /home on my SSD and then store all files that aren't games/programs on my HDD without setting anything up for it?17:10
ironrator does it need its own partition? :s17:10
naccCobrax: what is your question?17:10
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TJ-ironrat: sure, you can do anything you want. Linux is almost infinitely configurable17:12
AvivHi all, I am looking for a simple solution for reverse proxy or ha proxy. I have a server located on my house. Now I want to create a server in Amazon that everyone that will go to https://amazonserver:port8443 it will forward the traffic to my server at home. Any third party solution for it?17:12
ironratthe proverbial you17:12
ironratmay not apply to me at the moment17:12
ironratseeing as i don't know what the hell i'm doing17:12
ironratsounds like i can just put /home on the ssd and symlink the heavy stuff over to the hdd17:15
qwxleaanybody got the 'brave' snap working on 17.10?17:23
seanh TJ- No luck :( Still nothing after reseating the wifi card17:24
TJ-seanh: I'm wondering if it's actually died. With no indication whatsoever of its presence. Can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )" just in case there's a fresh clue?17:25
ironrati tried to install ubuntu and got a colorful disco lightshow instead17:25
naccqwxlea: you should contact the snap owner17:25
ironratallll kinds of graphical corruption17:26
ironratcouldn't even click through the first part of the install cause i couldn't see it past the swarming matrix of colors17:26
lordcirth_workironrat, what ubuntu version and what graphics card do you have?17:26
Cobraxnacc what is the difference betwee ##linux and #ubuntu17:27
ironrat17.10 and R9 39017:27
qwxleanacc: i doubt that will do much good, that is why i tried it here first  (irc = instant gratification)17:27
naccqwxlea: the snap is unsupported in this channel, snaps are only supported by the upstream17:28
qwxleanacc: ok17:28
naccCobrax: this the ubuntu support channel. ##linux is a general linux channel.17:28
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Guest68076my cursor is not blinking in xfce terminal..how to enable blinking mode ?17:31
seanhTJ-: Reseated it a second time just in case, no luck. Here's dmesg: https://pastebin.com/fEdB2Ctj17:31
leftyfbGuest68076: that is a function of the terminal you're using. You might try right-clicking the terminal and/or looking through the menu's to find the setting for the cursor17:33
TJ-seanh: this might sound silly, but is the adapter in the left or right slot? and is one slot free or have something else in?17:33
TJ-seanh: because some manufacturers will only wire up the USB lines to some mini-PCI slots, so you can get caught out if you put the adapter in the USB-only slot17:34
seanhIt was the right-hand slot, the smaller of the two cards, as seen in this pic: https://www.notebookcheck.biz/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_IMG_9427_bccbc188b7.jpg17:36
TJ-seanh: OK, so the other (left) would be a GSM cellular modem I guess which indicates both slots are full PCIe17:37
seanhApparently the left is a "WAN card" while the right (which I reseated) is a "WLAN card"17:38
TJ-seanh: the only thing I can think now is to try another wifi adapter in that slot in case that one has somehow failed. if another doesn't work that suggests a slot problem17:38
seanh"Mobile broadband" does show in network manager17:39
TJ-seanh: yeah, WAN is cellular. The laptop will probably have a SIM card slot hidden by the battery or close17:39
seanhTJ-: Do you think installing Windows is worth a try? In case there's a software on/off switch for the wifi?17:39
TJ-seanh: if the slots are identical (hard to tell from the photo) you could try taking both out and trying the Wifi in the left slot - yet another way to try to prove whether it's the card or the slot. However, just thinking about it, the WAN card is going to be USB - I bet it shows up with "lsusb" so that left slot might be USB-only!17:40
scootergrisenWhere is the ubuntu installer translated?17:40
TJ-seanh: I don't think it will, from what I've read of Linux on the X240, there's nothing tricky going on17:40
TJ-seanh: I have those adapters lying around so its easy for me to do substitution tests, but I'm assuming you won't have easy access to an alternate17:42
TJ-seanh: Woah! do you have working Bluetooth!?17:42
TJ-seanh: dmesg shows Intel Bluetooth!!! that's on that device17:42
TJ-seanh:     4.468411] Bluetooth: hci0: Intel Bluetooth firmware file: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq17:43
TJ-seanh: show us "pastebinit <( rfkill list)" please17:43
jojihii17:44
seanhTJ-: bluetooth is showing in the top bar in Ubuntu, I haven't tried it17:46
anon__hi17:47
anon__hahah17:47
anon__luluz17:47
anon__is there_17:47
leftyfbanon__: can we help you with something?17:48
anon__yes17:48
anon__ better distro linux for nootebook_17:48
leftyfbanon__: what can we help you with? (Ubuntu related)17:48
anon____17:48
seanhTJ-: Here's rfkill list: https://pastebin.com/qgU19wCN17:48
nicomachusanon__: if you need distro recommendations please ask in ##linux17:48
leftyfbanon__: it doesn't make a lot of sense to /join #<insert distro here> and ask about a better/different distro17:49
scootergrisenWhere is this string translated from the installer? "Install third-party softwarea for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware, MP3 and other media"17:50
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leftyfbscootergrisen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations17:50
TJ-seanh: show us the USB list "pastebinit <( lsusb )" please17:51
leftyfblsusb | pastebinit17:52
leftyfb:)17:52
seanhTJ-: https://pastebin.com/G7sxHKad17:53
TJ-seanh: let's revisit the PCI device list, to find that Bluetooth device (which should be part of the Wifi device!): "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk)"17:54
seanhTJ-: https://pastebin.com/GhrSKs2k17:56
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texlaI want to mount /dev/sda1 to an icon on the desktop..Terminal and gparted show the mount point as /./mnt..How do I mount to desktop17:58
TJ-seanh: hmmm, nothing there. It must be the Intel devices listed by lsusb, but the current usbids file doesn't list that at all17:59
B105PH3REseanh: does anything show up under additional drivers application for your wifi card?18:01
TJ-seanh: so I think the USB "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp." is the Bluetooth hci0 device18:01
leftyfbtexla: you can just show mounted volumes on the desktop as part of a feature in gnome/nautilus18:01
seanhB105PH3RE: nothing18:02
TJ-seanh: is that photo of the two devices your actual PC? in other words, can I read the labels and be reading whats in your PC18:02
TJ-B105PH3RE: there's no hardware showing up, so no drivers will18:02
B105PH3RElsusb -vv18:02
lol-md5!bootinfo | lol-md518:03
ubottulol-md5, please see my private message18:03
B105PH3REbluetooth or wifi isn't working?18:03
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TJ-seanh: did you look at the label, is it an Intel 7260 dual-band device?18:03
leftyfbtexla: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop volumes-visible true18:03
seanhTJ-: Let me open it up again and look18:03
TJ-B105PH3RE: No wifi adapter showing up, but there's a mini-pcie adapter in the Thinkpad X240.18:03
TJ-seanh: can you take a clear photo for me?18:03
B105PH3REi see your ericsson mobile device could that be your wifi18:03
TJ-B105PH3RE: That's GSM cellular18:04
B105PH3REoh ok...18:04
B105PH3REso its an intel chipset then right?18:04
seanhTJ-: Will do18:04
ubonedoes apt install openbox pull xorg?18:06
TJ-B105PH3RE: seanh what is weird is the dmesg shows "Bluetooth: hci0: Intel Bluetooth firmware file: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq" which is usually part of the Intel Wifi/BT combined chipset. So either there's a separate (USB-connected) Intel BT device, or there's a USB BT device presented by that Wifi mini-pcie adapter which works, but the PCI WiFi side has failed18:06
B105PH3R1or he's got the wrong module version loaded or something to that effect... seanh happens when you do lsusb -vv pastbinit please18:07
B105PH3R1brb18:08
RonaldsMazitishello, can I change crtl to fn button18:09
seanhTJ-: my phone died, I need to charge it up for a few mins then I'll get you that photo18:09
RonaldsMazitis?18:09
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"18:09
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "add control = Super_L"18:09
RonaldsMazitisI'm using this18:09
RonaldsMazitiscan I use something similar , to change crtl to fn button18:09
TJ-seanh: OK. I'm going to pop away for dinner but will be back18:09
cnestill prefer stock gnome over the modified18:09
seanhB105PH3RE: will try that once I've put the laptop back together18:09
sha1-lolok so i just installed xubuntu to my new ssd. Afterwards i copied everything except /etc/fstab from my old SSD to my new SSD. Now, when I boot, it takes 1minute 30seconds because it's waiting for a stop job for my root partition to time out. I am using LUKS. here's my bootinfoscript output: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0661d0b7cfdc72c3dda92f88c653e4dc18:10
B105PH3R1back sorry so when you do lsusb -vv you get nothing?18:10
B105PH3R1stang18:10
leftyfbsha1-lol: copying "everything but fstab" from one installation to another is asking for problems18:10
B105PH3R1ditto on that sha1-lol leftyfb18:11
TJ-B105PH3R1: see dmesg: https://pastebin.com/raw/fEdB2Ctj  lspci: https://pastebin.com/GhrSKs2k lsusb: https://pastebin.com/G7sxHKad rfkill: https://pastebin.com/qgU19wCN18:11
sha1-lolwell it *works*18:11
sha1-loli'm talking to you in that machine now18:11
sha1-lolbut it just takes a while18:11
sha1-lolwhat should i have done?18:11
leftyfbsha1-lol: if it works, then there's no problem18:11
sha1-lolthe problem is that it takes a minute and a half to boot18:11
sha1-lolwhere it used to take 5s18:11
leftyfbsha1-lol: not copy an entire OS over another18:11
sha1-lolthat's not very helpful18:12
B105PH3R1but can you do a verbose lsusb18:12
RonaldsMazitishow can I change crtl to fn button on ubuntu18:12
leftyfbit's also not a good idea .... and now you have experienced one reason why18:12
sha1-lol"how am i supposed to format my drive?" "don't use DISKPART.exe" "ok thanks"18:12
nicomachusRonaldsMazitis: System Settings -> Keyboard18:12
RonaldsMazitisI'm on openbox, You mean gnome-system-settings or something18:13
leftyfbsha1-lol: on a fresh install, the only thing you should be restoring is your /home and maybe some custom configs you had in /etc18:13
pisihi, i installed ubuntu 17.10 and i have 2 desktop tty. system opening with tty2 when i switch tty1 there is gdm screen. this is like 2 ubuntu working same time games are laggy. is anybody know this issue?18:14
B105PH3R1RonaldsMazitis: on some systems you have todo in the bios...18:14
alsetemaFinally! officil support in this channel. I am having some trouble with the audio codec being used in my laptop, the ES8316 by everest semiconductors. There is no soud coming out of it, and audio and videos dont play18:15
alsetemaDmesg also displays this18:15
alsetema[   40.517525] bytcht_es8316 bytcht_es8316: ASoC: CODEC DAI ES8316 HiFi not registered18:16
B105PH3R1so the wifi device IS NOT Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-LM there cable only correct?18:16
alsetemaB105PH3R1: looks like thats the ethernet one, yes18:16
Anthaasmy updated Xresources file isnt taking effect?18:16
leftyfbsha1-lol: what version of ubuntu did you have installed on your old ssh?18:17
seanhTJ-: When you're back, here's the photo: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XJZ82pRcgnzCfQBv1 And a shot of the whole thing: https://photos.app.goo.gl/t1BYY3PfRuWAwSO5318:17
B105PH3R1so who has the problem? came into late... but we need more usb info on that device can whoever do 'lsusb -d 8087:800 -v' and 'lsusb -d 8087:07dc -v'18:18
B105PH3R1sorry the first is missing a 0 at the end lsusb -d 8087:8000 -v'18:19
seanhB105PH3R1: Here's lsusb -vv: https://pastebin.com/q8upLFeJ18:19
alsetemaI think my problem is unfixable xD18:20
ikoniathen why are you asking for people to fix it18:21
alsetemaOut of hope and desesperation18:21
alsetemaAnd the fact that official support for ubuntu 17.10 moved here from the other chanel18:21
ikoniano this has always been the official channel18:22
B105PH3R1well linue 122 123 it says it can't open device18:22
alsetemaI joined here the other day and they told me o go to ubuntu+1 for support18:22
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L"18:22
RonaldsMazitisxmodmap -e "add control = Super_L"18:22
RonaldsMazitisthis changes crtl to super key18:22
ikoniaalsetema: 17.10 wasn't released, so it was not supported in this channel until release18:22
B105PH3R1the 07dc is your bluetooth wireless 8000 is your wifi I believe which is giving an error that it can't open device.. you may have a hardware problem or if the device is removabled you may need to clean the contacts or replace the device....18:23
alsetemaThats what I mean xD ikonia18:23
RonaldsMazitishow can I change ctrl to fn18:23
ikoniaalsetema: now it is officially release, this channel can support it18:23
alsetemaIt's exactly what im saying18:23
B105PH3R1this is a thinkpad x240 you should be able to replace the wifi card inside the laptop with another one and see if that fixes your problem...18:24
ikoniawhy would you swap a wifi card in a thinkpad ?18:26
ikoniathey come with pretty well supported linux components, mostly intel based for the mass majority, certainly the T series and X series18:26
TJ-seanh: looking now18:27
seanhApparently this wifi card (Wireless-N 7260) requires the iwlwifi driver 25.30.13.0. I don't know how to check if I have that driver. Presumably I would have it though (should work out of the box on Ubuntu I think)18:28
B105PH3R1if you have a hardware prblem with the card I would replace card18:28
adrian_1908If I want my proprietary nvidia drivers to stay up-to-date with new releases on apt, do I install the `nvidia-current` package, or is that something else? (don't have the GUI option in my case).18:29
ikoniawhy do you think you have a hardware problem with the card ?18:29
B105PH3R1can't open device...18:29
seanhThis is a refurb thinkpad that I just got off ebay, so if it seems to be a hardware problem with the card I think I'm just going to return the laptop18:29
TJ-seanh: regardless of the driver, it's not showing up on the PCI bus.18:29
ikoniaB105PH3R1: where are you getting the output can't open device ?18:29
B105PH3R1assuming he doesn't have a module problem... it could be a hardware problem18:29
seanhB105PH3R1: I think the can't open device may have been because lsusb -vv requires sudo18:29
ikonialsusb is not a hardware test18:29
B105PH3R1i'm not the one with the problem18:29
ikoniait probes an ID database18:30
TJ-seanh: Your info confirms the adapter DOES have the Bluetooth chipset on it too, so the BT part (USB) is working but apparently the PCI 726-0 dual-band wifi isn't18:30
ikoniait's not even a valid identifier of the hardware, it's just a useful tool18:30
B105PH3R1seanh: all your other device info is fine... its just that device and thats the one you can't get working..18:30
TJ-seanh: "Intel 7260NGW Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 802.11ac, Dual Band, 2x2 Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0 "18:30
B105PH3R1well good luck18:30
tomreynalsetema: looks like the vendor patch never got signed off, so therE's no support. but you could patch it yourself. https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9720461/18:31
ikoniahttps://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html18:31
TJ-seanh: those cards can be got for US$10 or do18:31
ikonia7260 shows support in the 4.1 qnd 4.2 kernel18:31
TJ-seanh: I have a laptop here with the EXACT same device and it all works fine on 16.0418:31
TJ-seanh: so either the adapter has a fault on the PCI side, or the laptop's mini-PCIe slot has a problem on it's PCI side. I wonder if there was any sign of damage around the slot? bent spring-pins in the slot possibly18:33
seanhTJ-: Thanks for all your help. I think I'm just gonna give up and return the laptop. This is the second broken X240 I've got off ebay in a row! Two different sellers. I could just replace the wifi card but if they sold me a laptop with broken wifi (apparently they didn't test) I'm not sure I want to trust the rest of the laptop either18:33
alsetemaI see tomreyn how could I even do that? I dont think I can fix if it involves coding unfortunately18:33
seanhTJ-: I didn't notice any damage. It could be the mobo's slot that's broken, and a fault in one place in the mobo could be a precursor to more mobo faults I feel, so best to return the laptop.18:34
tomreynalsetema: it involves building your own kernel image (or finding pre-built kernel images which have this patch applied already, such as in a PPA you trust)18:34
TJ-seanh: OK. did you try swapping slots with the WWAN device? that'd be one last easy test to do.. sewap them and see if the WWAN works in the right slot, and the WLAN/BT works in the left slot. Doesn't matter if you don't connect the antennas for the test.18:36
seanhTJ-: I didn't. It's quite a fiddle to remove the cards tbh, the retaining screws are a bit of a nightmare18:36
TJ-seanh: tell me about it :)18:37
TJ-seanh: that's about the only thing I can think of whilst the PCI side of the device isn't showing up in dmesg18:37
alsetematomreyn: Unfortunately I have not found anything online that references that, just only github pages that refer to the codec in the current kernel18:38
TJ-seanh: i just noticed the SIM slot over to the left of the overview photo, too18:38
seanhYeah there's a SIM slot on the side18:38
texlaleftyfb, https://pastebin.com/D7XrgNqU..this is the error I get from naulitus in terminal and i get a home window18:39
tomreynalsetema: you could also try contacting the chip vendor or their developer (whose contact is listed on this patch) and tell them how sad it is that you can't use their device on liunux just because they didn't spend enough effort on making it available properly.18:39
leftyfbtexla: those errors are benign18:39
alsetemaI have contacted them, Just waiting for the reply but I have been waiting for their reply, hopefully they will reply soo, tomreyn18:41
TJ-seanh: one last, slim, kernel-option chance: add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX " pci=use_crs,realloc,assign-busses,pcie_scan_all " in /etc/default/grub, then do "sudo update-grub" and reboot18:41
tomreynalsetema: make sure you also give !mainline a try, it's possible this just didn't make it into 14.10 (yet?)18:42
dserodio_androidI am upgrading from 17.4 to 17.10, and locked the desktop because I needed to be away from it. Now when I click on my name in the login manager I get a "Failed to authenticate" error, it doesn't even ask for my password :(18:42
tomreyn!mainline | alsetema18:43
ubottualsetema: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds18:43
dserodio_androidI'm afraid to reboot and completely break it18:43
TJ-seanh: I'm working on the basis that the 7260 device is behind a PCI bridge, and it is possible the bridge window is not correctly configured by firmware18:44
seanhTJ-: no luck18:45
TJ-dserodio_android: can you do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and get a terminal?18:45
TJ-seanh: OK, was a slim chance18:45
seanhI'm fairly convinced that's it's broken, should work out of the box18:45
dserodio_androidTJ-: yes18:45
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TJ-dserodio_android: OK, from there log-in then do "ps -efly | grep lock" - do see a process name that suggests it is a screen-locker ?18:47
dserodio_androidTJ-: "unity-panel-service --lockscreen-mode" only18:48
ironratany way to fix the graphical glitches during install with 17.10 and a 390?18:49
TJ-dserodio_android: hmmm. I don't use that DE so can't compare here. But what I am trying to suggest si to "kill -KILL <pid of process that is the screenlock>"18:49
dserodio_androidTJ-: I see "gnome-session-inhibit" and a "xdg-screensaver reset" processes18:50
v3n0mhey18:50
matteeyahpkill screenlock18:50
v3n0mi can't use apply system wide proxy settings from the control center of gnome in ubuntu 17.1018:50
B105PH3RETJ-: is android having the screen blanking issue?18:50
v3n0mit would work fine in 17.0418:50
v3n0mthe software center as well as software updater does not work18:51
seanhTJ-: B105PH3RE Thanks for all your help anyway18:51
v3n0mthough, I can use terminal for installation18:51
v3n0mi can't apply system wide proxy settings from the control center of gnome in ubuntu 17.1018:51
seanhIt's good to know that it's (probably) broken, saves me from continuing to try and get it working18:51
B105PH3REseanh: no problem love to help... too bad we couldn't do anything further... I would recommend to try another card18:51
TJ-seanh: I've found another dmesg for the X240, the device is/should show in lspci as 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:08b2] (rev 6b)18:52
B105PH3REcuz most intels work out-of-box on linux18:52
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v3n0mcan someone help me?18:53
v3n0mwtf is this18:53
v3n0mhaha18:53
v3n0mseriously it sucks but can you just help me?18:54
ikoniatone down the language please v3n0m - if someone wants to help and can help they will offer it18:54
TJ-seanh: one LAST LAST thing! Go into the UEFI firmware setup and ensure the wireless devices are all enabled18:55
v3n0mhey18:55
TJ-seanh: or network devices; whatever options it has that could disable platform/onboard devices18:55
v3n0mplease just help me out18:55
v3n0mfor applying a system wide proxy settings18:56
B105PH3REuse iptables v3n0m18:56
matteeyahcould you describe the way it doesn't work v3n0m?18:56
ikoniaB105PH3RE: what ???18:56
seanhTJ-: I did check that, they were all enabled as far as I could see18:56
ikoniaB105PH3RE: he needs a http proxy....you're telling him to use iptables ?18:56
TJ-seanh: well done! nice that you're ahead of me18:56
B105PH3REnvm18:57
v3n0mplease?18:57
B105PH3REi was thinking vpn18:57
ikoniaB105PH3RE: even a vpn...use iptables for a vpn ???18:57
v3n0mI mean I waited so long for this release. Just don't disappoint me.18:57
naccv3n0m: threatening an abstract software seems odd18:57
naccv3n0m: also, we are all volunteers, maybe check your expectations.18:57
v3n0mWhere did I threat?18:57
nicomachusB105PH3RE: iptables doesn't do anything VPN related. Just firewall stuff.18:57
v3n0mBIOSPHERE18:58
naccv3n0m: with being disappointed :)18:58
B105PH3REyou can reroute traffice18:58
v3n0mi can user terminal for updating stuff.18:58
nicomachusv3n0m: system-wide proxy can be set up in Network Manager18:58
v3n0mbut guis don't work18:58
v3n0mthe network manager does not work18:58
v3n0mit just does not set the gui settings18:58
nicomachuswhat do you mean "does not work"18:58
v3n0mthe software updater says no internet connection18:58
v3n0mi mean it does set to some extent. I can use firefox18:58
v3n0mbut not software center etc18:58
matteeyahtry adding proxy settings to /etc/apt/apt.conf18:59
matteeyahe.g.18:59
matteeyahAcquire::http::proxy "http://ProxyHOST:ProxyPORT/";18:59
matteeyahAcquire::https::proxy "https://ProxyHOST:ProxyPORT/";18:59
v3n0mWell, okay19:00
v3n0mBut I mean look19:00
v3n0mit used to set proxy settings in /etc/environment19:00
v3n0mbut now it does not.19:00
v3n0mit only configures it for my user19:00
v3n0mit does not configure for all users19:00
TJ-seanh: for your info, apparently the left slot is an M.2 (containing the WWAN)19:00
nicomachusv3n0m: try to use less lines please. Put your full message on one line. Stop hitting enter so much and spamming the channel.19:00
v3n0mso I had to run sudo -E update  for updating and sudo -E upgrade for upgrading19:01
matteeyahbasically there's 3 places for proxy settings: 1. network manager, 2. /etc/environment and 3. /etc/apt/apt.conf19:01
v3n0mBy it used to, I mean in 17.04.19:01
matteeyahokay, stay on 17.0419:01
naccmatteeyah: i'd stop mentioning 3), it's unrelated to this question, afaict19:02
matteeyahit affects software center nacc19:02
seanhTJ-: So I guess the wifi card would not work in that slot anyway then?19:02
matteeyahgtk applications rely on network manager settings19:02
matteeyahso you have to set all three to get a consistent behaviour19:02
v3n0mit gives me error but its fine without sudo19:02
v3n0mSo I might have figured out the problem and it is that it does not set for all users which includes root too. There might be a bug in it I suppose?19:02
v3n0mYeah, and you know when I do this sudo gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy mode 'manual'19:03
TJ-seanh: wait!19:03
B105PH3REv3n0m: did you try and set the proxy for root also?19:03
ikoniayou should not set the proxy for root19:03
ikoniaroot should not be an active user19:04
v3n0mI did in /etc/environment but I guess setting in apt would fix it for gui applications too but this is not a good behaviour of network manager proxy settings.19:04
matteeyahbad idea19:04
v3n0mI should .19:04
matteeyahdon't do anything for root19:04
ikoniaso there should be no need to set anything for root19:04
ikoniayou should not be logging in as root19:04
v3n0mAs, I have to update pacakges. Then, it needs root. Doesn't it? Lol19:04
TJ-seanh: I've just found a forum thread (about Windows) talking about the BIOS needs to whitelist the device for it to be enabled, and people needing to patch their BIOS to get Intel DualBand AC 7260 (NGW) cards to work. That would very clearly explain your issue. Forum thread is https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Lenovo-X240-BIOS-Whitelist-for-Intel-7620-AC19:04
matteeyahagain19:04
TJ-seanh: so first off I'd ensure you have the very latest Lenovo firmware installed19:04
matteeyah/etc/apt/apt.conf sets settings for apt system-wide19:04
matteeyahthat includes installing/updating packages19:04
ikonianetwork manager is a user specific config19:05
ikoniait should only apply to the user controlling the network manager - not other suers19:05
ikoniausers19:05
v3n0mI figured the problem anyway thanks.19:05
ikoniaI don't believe you did19:05
TJ-seanh: if someone at somepoint replaced the originally installed wifi device with the one in their now, and this device isn't in the BIOS whitelist... well, it wouldn't be enabled :)19:05
matteeyahyeah, but network manager settings doesn't affect lots of things19:05
ikoniaas you are talking about settings in /etc/environment and talking about setting proxies for root19:05
v3n0mThe problem is that it does not ask you for a sudo when you set proxy settings. Then, it means it will only set for your account. Not in /etc/environment and neither in the apt since it has no power to edit it using a normal user.19:06
matteeyahokay19:06
seanhHmm, wondering how you update the firmware on this thing19:06
matteeyahi think you're trolling now19:06
v3n0mbro.19:06
dserodioWell, I ran 'reboot' on the console and my was able to reboot19:06
v3n0mI may not seem to write it properly but that is the problem.19:07
ikoniav3n0m: it SHOULD only set for your user account19:07
B105PH3REseanh: be carefull when doing firmware updates.. you can seriously break your hardware if something goes wrong19:07
ikoniav3n0m: that is the correct design19:07
dserodioLet's see how broken my desktop is now :)19:07
seanhLooks like you need Windows to do it19:07
TJ-seanh: some UEFI setups have inbuilt wired network support and can do it. Others need a firmware update capsule. You can install those from Linux19:07
v3n0mIt used to set in /etc/environment and everything else.19:07
ikoniav3n0m: no19:07
matteeyahbut it doesn't now19:07
matteeyahor it didn't in the first place19:07
ikoniav3n0m: /etc/environment is a shell environment19:07
matteeyahwhy do you keep repeating that?19:07
matteeyah/etc/environment sets the environment for all processes19:07
ikoniait is not a gui application - hence why I said "it's wrong"19:07
ikoniaonly something that parses a shell19:08
v3n0mwell, can you just give me the command for setting in apt. I will manually configure /etc/environment and as well as apt.19:08
texlaHow to start nautilus19:08
B105PH3REv3n0m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables this page talks about that in more detail may help19:08
matteeyahvim /etc/apt/apt.conf19:08
v3n0mI mean the lines to add.19:08
v3n0mi know how to edit a file please.19:08
ikoniav3n0m: matteeyah has shown you the lines to change19:08
thrmoso I was a running a daily build of Ubuntu 17.10, since the final release is out do I need anything more than apt update && apt upgrade?19:08
nicomachustexla: click the icon or from a terminal run `nautilus`19:08
naccthrmo: no, although you may want to use full-upgrade19:08
TJ-seanh: see for firmware updates the fwupdate tool and this site https://fwupd.org/19:09
v3n0mdon't treat me like I know nothing by saying vim /etc/apt/apt.conf loool19:09
matteeyahAcquire::http::proxy "http://username:password@host:port/";19:09
matteeyahAcquire::ftp::proxy "ftp://username:password@host:port/";19:09
matteeyahAcquire::https::proxy "https://username:password@host:port/";19:09
texlanicomachus, Does not start19:09
thrmowhy is that nacc?19:09
thrmoapt dist-upgradE?19:09
v3n0mthrmo you should re install that's what I did19:09
nicomachusv3n0m: he was trying to be precise, don't get mad about it.19:09
oerheksmatteeyah, he can read back, and his attitude is really awfull19:09
naccv3n0m: stop givig bad advice.19:09
v3n0mbut since you are on that, you will be on 17.10 already.19:09
naccthrmo: full-upgrade is apt's name for what was apt-get dist-upgrade19:10
v3n0mI ran a daily build till it got officialy released today.19:10
nicomachustexla: was there any output from terminal?19:10
v3n0mjust do this command19:10
seanhTJ-: Gnome Software can do it?19:10
tomeaton17To write in vim press "i"19:10
thrmoty nacc19:10
naccthrmo: it's generally safe to do, basically full-upgrade is allowed to remove packages to make upgrades go through (upgrade itself is not)19:10
v3n0msudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -c19:10
v3n0mif nothing happens, you are already on the latest build.19:11
nicomachusv3n0m: no.19:11
ikoniav3n0m: no19:11
naccv3n0m: that list makes no sense.19:11
v3n0mThat's my command.19:11
naccv3n0m: please stop giving advice.19:11
ikoniav3n0m: please stop giving bd info19:11
texlanicomachus, A bunch of failed notes and a window with home19:11
v3n0mWell, it just updates everything.19:11
ikoniav3n0m: if you don't know - or are unsure don't offer the info19:11
nicomachustexla: please paste the output to a pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) and link here19:11
oerheksv3n0m, do-release-upgrade -c ?? there is no such function -c .. trolling is not wanted here19:12
v3n0mjust read it. There's nothing wrong since he wants to update to the latest release unless ubuntu has started working on 18.04 and I guess it won't update to that19:12
v3n0m-c well check it19:12
v3n0mlol there is19:12
tomeaton17Just stop trolling dude19:12
ikoniav3n0m: running commands blindly - is not good19:12
B105PH3REoerheks: i was thinking the same thing...19:12
v3n0mand what if there is?19:12
daxoerheks: hanlon's razor seems applicable19:12
ikoniav3n0m: please stop helping others and focus on your problem only19:12
TJ-seanh: fwupdate is a command-line tool for UEFI systems booted in UEFI mode. It enables you to download a firmware update CAPsule file and pass it to the firmware so it is installed. No windows required.19:12
v3n0m-c just checks if there is a release available19:13
v3n0mmaybe, increase your info please?19:13
texlanicomachus, https://pastebin.com/dkMs5u5J19:13
nicomachusv3n0m: no it doesn't19:13
v3n0mthis ain't a blind command19:13
v3n0mand what if it does19:13
v3n0mlets see19:13
ikoniav3n0m: it's not a disscussion - please, focus on your own problem19:13
daxlet's see19:13
v3n0mjust do it in your terminal19:13
ikoniav3n0m: enough19:14
oerhekshttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/artful/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html19:14
ikoniav3n0m: focus on your own problem only, please19:14
v3n0mwhatever you know. I am focusing.19:14
naccoerheks: i believe it's undocumented :/19:14
ikoniav3n0m: great, just focus on your own problem please19:14
v3n0mBut, you are just boasting yourselves off. Even if I help.19:14
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B105PH3REits not a good idea to multiple commands with upgrade or various things you can break your system that way... believe me i've done that before... so now I just do update then upgrade and so on... it seems to be the safer way todo things...19:15
seanhTJ-: "firmware updates are not supported on this machine" (says fwupdate from Ubuntu 17.10). I guess it would need Windows19:15
nicomachustexla: well, you don't wanna use `sudo` witha gtk program but that's beside the point here.19:15
v3n0mI know. But it's for a specific purpose.19:16
RonaldsMazitiswhat is abbrevation for fn key using modmap?19:16
RonaldsMazitiswhat is abbrevation for fn key using modmap?19:16
v3n0mJust because he wanted to be on 17.10 and wanted to make sure he is on point release so that's why I gave him that command.19:16
daxRonaldsMazitis: there isn't one, interpretation of the Fn key is done by your system's firmware before it reaches the OS19:16
TJ-seanh: is it booted in UEFI mode? check with "ls /sys/firmware/efi/" - you should see lots of entries. if that doesn't exist you've installed/booted in Legacy/BIOS mode19:16
v3n0mIt's not just a "blind" command.19:16
oerheksRonaldsMazitis, what did you do last time, with your failin gwinkey ?19:16
ikoniav3n0m: enough please19:16
ikoniav3n0m: focus on your own issue only19:16
tony1oerheks: I think it is do-release-upgrade -d19:16
texlanicomachus, I used su.gksu.gksudo and nothing works19:16
seanhTJ-: Ah, yeah it's legacy mode19:17
v3n0msudo do-release-upgrade -c only checks and does not upgrade19:17
nicomachustexla: `killall nautilus && nautilus`19:17
ikoniav3n0m: final warning - let it go, focus on your own problem please19:17
tony1oerheks: do-release-upgrade works on a point release19:17
B105PH3RERonaldsMazitis: you want to map fn to the windows key or ctrl/alt key?19:17
v3n0mikonia what is wrong. I will just leave this irc19:17
ikoniav3n0m: ok, bye19:17
nicomachusk bye19:17
v3n0mBut it's not a good thing to just tell a person that you have sent a wrong command.19:17
v3n0mFuck ubuntu for life.19:17
TJ-seanh: aha. well, 1st, find out if there is a more recent firmware and download it if so. Then you could change the boot mode to EFI (needs the boot-loader modifying)19:17
v3n0mFucking asshole retards19:17
v3n0mirc people19:17
tony1im just skimming the tread so maybe I missed something19:17
v3n0mmanjaro is better19:17
RonaldsMazitiswhy my left ctrl presses itself19:18
RonaldsMazitiskey looks 100% fine19:18
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: something sticky under it?19:18
oerheksRonaldsMazitis, there is no software bug behind that, dirt or broken?19:18
B105PH3REdid you check the switch under the key isn't full of junk/or moisture..19:18
oerheks"like your win key"...19:18
texlanicomachus, https://pastebin.com/k1tACSFk and i got a home window19:19
RonaldsMazitisit seems clean19:19
B105PH3RElaptop system or desktop keyboard?19:19
TJ-seanh: in legacy mode the package grub-pc is installed; you'll have to do a dance to replace that wit grub-efi. It might even mean rejigging the partitioning if you didn't use GPT. HOWEVER!!! earlier you said you thought the wireless worked during install... I wonder if it works in UEFI mode but not in Legacy? how about trying to boot into the LiveISO installer and doing "Try Ubuntu" in UEFI mode and see?19:20
B105PH3RETJ-: nice suggestion I forget about that UEFI stuff...19:20
RonaldsMazitiskeyboard19:20
oerheksokt 15 22:01:46 <RonaldsMazitis>https://askubuntu.com/questions/93624/how-do-i-swap-left-ctrl-with-left-alt-on-my-keyboard19:20
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oerhekssame procedure19:20
nicomachustexla: what does `nautilus -c` show?19:21
TJ-B105PH3RE: seanh well it is a bit extreme but I'm sure seanh said he thought it worked during install19:21
seanhTJ-: Booted in UEFI mode now and fwupdate still saying not supported19:21
TJ-seanh: huh? definitely in UEFI mode? do you have grub-efi and grub-pc installed side-by-side? check again with "ls /sys/firmware/efi/"19:22
B105PH3REdo you get any info with 'lsusb -d 8087:8000 -v' or you see can't open device still19:22
TJ-B105PH3RE: that's the Bluetooth device19:22
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seanhWhat I actually saw was: first time I booted an Ubuntu USB (in order to run badblocks to test the hard drive) wifi was there in network manager but kept failing to connect. Since then - no wifi. Whether running the installed Ubuntu or booting one from USB again. Which sounds a bit to me like the hardware may have broken?19:22
TJ-B105PH3RE: : I found another dmesg for the X240, the device is/should show in lspci as 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:08b2] (rev 6b)19:22
seanhTJ-: Yeah, bunch of files and dirs in /sys/firmware/efi19:22
texlanicomachus, https://pastebin.com/h4UQXQQi19:23
TJ-seanh: OK, that's EFI mode alright19:23
|Night|hey wahats a good web based terminal? wetty no longer works with ubuntu 17.1019:23
TJ-seanh: ahhh, now you explain it more fully then yes, it does sound that way19:23
nicomachustexla: ok. have you tried a reboot?19:23
nicomachusnot a solution, but it does usually fix nautilus in this case.19:23
B105PH3RETJ-: i was pretty sure that was the ethernet device19:23
B105PH3REi'll shut up now..19:24
TJ-B105PH3RE: that's the wired device; you'll notice it uses the e1000e driver (Intel gigabit ethernet)19:24
texlanicomachus, Will try to reboot again19:24
seanhTJ-: Yeah, thanks anyway19:25
oerheksNight, webbrowser-app, https://askubuntu.com/questions/861290/open-ubuntu-browser-from-terminal19:25
TJ-B105PH3RE: the 7260 device uses the iwlwifi/iwlmvm drivers19:26
B105PH3RETJ-: I was pretty tsure the 8086"08b2 was the cable ethernet and the 8087:8000 was the wifi card because most latptops the wifi comes up under the usb part not pci... but I may be mistaken19:26
TJ-B105PH3RE: no, the 7260 is PCI. the Bluetooth chip on it uses the USB19:27
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texlanicomachus, It still opens the failed list and a home window19:30
texlanicomachus, nautilus -c show the self check19:31
khangeekhI19:32
khangeekCAn I DISAble kerneloops.service?19:32
khangeekIt is slowing my bootup.19:33
nacckhangeek: you can do whatever you want19:34
khangeekIs it bad for my computer?19:34
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nacckhangeek: i'm not sure what you mean?19:35
nacckhangeek: kerneloops submits kernel crash info to the bug tracker automatically19:35
khangeekdisabling kerneloops.service?19:35
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khangeekokay. I will disable it. Thankyou!19:35
nacckhangeek: disabling it would mean you would stop sending in such reports19:35
khangeekI want a fast bootup19:36
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razorzwhere did my dock go after the 17.10 upgrade from 17.04 lol19:38
soundee##writing19:39
nicomachustexla: what do you mean by "home window"19:40
texlanicomachus, Under the icon files a window open called home which contains files such as documents desktop Downloads etc19:43
nicomachustexla.... that's nautilus19:44
satishMy machine configuration i7 with 4GB AMD Radeon graphics card but graphic card is not detected after installing Ubuntu16.0419:46
satishcan someone please guide the workaround for this, so that I can use the dedicated graphics for enhanced performance while using Android Studio?19:47
texlanicomachus, No not to my memory Nautilus is a program where you can set changed to different parts of the distro,such as set sda1 mount to bee visible on the desktop19:47
krytarik!info nautilus19:48
ubottunautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.20.4-0ubuntu2 (zesty), package size 595 kB, installed size 1944 kB19:48
nicomachustexla: nautilus is just your file manager. you can find sda1 in there and add a desktop icon.19:48
nicomachustexla: but on default, it just opens to /home19:49
on3pkI'm having this weird problem where my USB devices just stop working19:50
on3pkSince my keyboard/mouse are both usb, how should I go about collecting data?19:51
TJ-on3pk: SSH session from another PC so you can collect logs when it happens19:51
oerhekson3pk, on what ubuntu version ?19:52
on3pkMy network connection is provided by a usb-WiFi device :|19:52
on3pk16.0419:52
lordcirth_workon3pk, ssh is good, or, 'sudo mkdir /var/log/journal' to enable persistent logging19:52
TJ-on3pk: ouch!19:52
lordcirth_workThen you can reboot and read the logs from before19:52
TJ-on3pk: there should be something in /var/log/kern.log anyhow.19:53
lordcirth_workTJ-, my kern.log here seems to be only this boot19:53
on3pkok, I will reboot into ubuntu and see what I find...19:53
TJ-lordcirth_work: they rotate19:54
texlanicomachus, I am not finding sda1 anywheres,I am only seeing the normal files either in trying to open nautilus or nemo,My other distro has a icon  with volume and is listed as /media/ray/uuid sda1 is listed as /./mnt in gparted and also in the mount command i am trying to get it to the desktop was told to use nautilu19:54
TJ-lordcirth_work: got a lot in the previous kern.1.log ?19:54
lordcirth_workTJ-, right, I'm dumb19:54
TJ-lordcirth_work: :) no... just overwhelmed... silly things like that catch me out constantly19:55
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amriunixHi! Well i was working with Linux-PAM ! so i run this example http://www.linux-pam.org/Linux-PAM-html/adg-example.html.19:55
amriunixNormally it will require a file /etc/pam.d/check_user ! Centos did, but ubuntu didn't and work just fine!19:55
amriunixSo my question is why ubuntu didn't ask for it ?19:56
khangeekShould I install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?19:56
oerhekskhangeek, if you want codecs, webplugins and tools, sure19:57
khangeekokay doesn't it get installed by default?19:57
oerheksNo, due to license issues19:58
lordcirth_workIsn't that what the desktop installer checkbox is for?19:58
khangeekif you tick the checkbox?19:58
khangeekin installation?19:58
oerhekslordcirth_work, that gives only Fluendo codecs, not the whole bunch19:58
khangeekinstall mp3 codecs flash plugins?19:58
lordcirth_workOh ok interesting19:59
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-extras/6619:59
pirayehi,20:00
pirayehow can i create .bashrc20:00
naccpiraye: use your favorite editor?20:01
lordcirth_workpiraye, it's just a text file in your home directory, use an editor20:01
lorddaedrahow to move left panel to bottom in 17.10?20:01
lordcirth_workBut there should already be one?20:01
nacclordcirth_work: by default, yeah20:01
lorddaedraI mean gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom20:02
lorddaedrawhat is alternative for Gnome 3?20:02
TJ-amriunix: because "pam_unix.so" is already included in other configs under /etc/pam.d/20:03
Delta706I am running ubuntu 16.04 and am getting a problem with the borders of windows flickering. If I lower the window in question and then raise it, it goes away20:03
pirayelordcirth_work, you mean it is just any text file i creat it20:03
lordcirth_workpiraye, correct, but it should already exist.20:03
lordcirth_workpiraye, any file starting with . is hidden, though20:04
pirayei dont have it20:04
lordcirth_workYou need to show hidden files, probably20:04
pirayehow?20:04
lordcirth_workpiraye, are you looking with Files?20:04
atasirhi guys, ubuntu doesn't support the resolution of my screen, what can I do?20:04
pirayeyes20:05
TJ-piraye: as you were told in ##linux, if it doesn't exist there should be a version at /etc/skel/.bashrc20:05
CE05lorddaedra- Settings > Dock > Position On Screen20:05
lordcirth_workpiraye, press Ctrl-H20:05
lordcirth_workTJ-, Don't overlook the basics :)20:06
atasirany suggestion?20:07
piraye press Ctrl-H20:07
pirayepress: command not found20:07
TJ-atasir: provide more and precise information and we might be able to help20:07
atasir1366x76820:07
atasirTJ-: ^20:07
* TJ- ;_; @ lordcirth_work20:07
TJ-atasir: is that the monitor resolution, or the one the video driver is selecting?20:08
elichai2hey20:08
elichai2My brightness function keys stopped working, the volume fun keys do work. tried adding `acpi_osi=` to grub with no success, xev nor acpi_listen register the keys being pressed20:08
elichai2any ideas?20:08
atasirTJ-: monitor resolution20:08
TJ-atasir: show us "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"20:08
nicomachuspiraye: that's not a terminal command... he meant actually press the key "Ctrl" in combine with the key "H"20:08
lorddaedraCE05 sorry, I'm on macOS now, try to help parents after Ubuntu update... how to open Settings? where is button or menu, how to find it?20:08
atasirTJ-: the display doens't show it as a possible choice, but lower or highter res20:09
TJ-elichai2: what did you do prior to the keys stopping working?20:09
pirayeok20:09
TJ-atasir: show us the pastebin output20:09
pirayei find it20:09
uslinganyone know how to get rid of amazon in 17.10?20:10
atasirTJ-: https://pastebin.com/VGkgRdqe20:10
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pirayei should export PIP_REQUIRE_VIRTUALENV=true to .bashrc in which line should i export it20:11
elichai2TJ-: good question, I'm not entirely sure, but I think I changed the grub timeout and ran `grub-update`20:11
TJ-atasir: thanks. So, you're on 17.10? XWAYLAND0 means its not using Xorg so most of the tools we use to check things aren't going to work.20:12
elichai2I tried to reset grub and reinstall and it didn't help20:12
TJ-elichai2: you said you change acpi_osi= ... is that what you've set it to? can you show us "cat /proc/cmdline ?20:12
atasirTJ-: yes20:12
elichai2TJ-: yes, I tried doing that to fix the problem20:13
elichai2`BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-37-generic root=UUID=cbeb5de6-c804-4544-ae60-b8da5b275fea ro quiet splash acpi_osi= vt.handoff=7`20:13
TJ-atasir: I've not got a 17.10 here to compare with, but it looks like Wayland isn't compatible with your GPU. log-out, press the Cog icon on the log-in screen, choose "Ubuntu with Xorg" and log-in again. See if that helps20:13
TJ-elichai2: OK... I suspect you need to add something after the acpi_osi= - that's the usual case. Show us "pastebinit <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"20:14
elichai2in ubuntu forums they say to not add but i'm willing to try20:15
atasirTJ- ok thanks20:15
elichai2https://paste.ubuntu.com/25774693/20:15
elichai2what is this?20:16
TJ-elichai2: Do you know how to use a text-editor to edit /etc/default/grub ?20:16
TJ-elichai2: (using sudo/root privs) ?20:16
elichai2yes. I do know how to use linux20:16
TJ-elichai2: Great :) open that file up with root privs, go to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." and make it so inbetween those double quotes it reads (type it EXACTLY as it is here): acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\"20:18
TJ-elichai2: leave any existing options other than that acpi_osi= in place; just make the acpi_osi entries look like I've just shown20:18
elichai2ok, now to update grub and restart?20:19
TJ-elichai2: save the file, then do "sudo update-grub" and do a reboot test20:19
seefoodHowdie and Congrats on the release!20:19
elichai2i'll be back in a few20:19
mistralolso after upgrading to 17.10. It mostly seems to work. Except it killed off my dropbox, slack, classic-menu icons :(20:20
mistralolany way to get these back?20:20
elichai2TJ-: it worked!20:20
elichai2can you please tell me what the hell happened here?20:21
pirayei have to  export PIP_REQUIRE_VIRTUALENV=true into .bashrc in which line should i add it20:21
seefoodI'm on 16.04 and decided to make the leap, but `update-manager -c` only offers me 17.04. is this normal? Should I wait another day, or change all my apt sources from xenial to artful and dist-upgrade?20:21
TJ-mistralol: is it running the Wayland compositor rather than Xorg? you could try logging in again, choosing the Cog icon on the log-in screen, and selecting the "Ubuntu on Xorg" option20:21
lordcirth_workpiraye, Sorry, I didn't notice your reply.  Say my username so I will notice.20:21
lordcirth_workpiraye, I thought you said you were using the Files app.  Are you using the command line instead?20:22
TJ-elichai2: OK. I've written an article on this it is frequent: See http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html20:22
elichai2thanks! i'll read it :)20:22
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oerheksseefood, that is normal , 16.04 > 17.04 > 17.1020:22
elichai2btw, is there a good reason for me to switch from legacy to UEFI?20:22
mistralolTJ-: well its has some of them. eg network tray icon. But no dropbox I doubt its X / wayland problem more like a unity / gnome problem20:22
lordcirth_workelichai2, faster boot, mainly20:22
elichai2my laptop already boots in 3-4 seconds20:23
seefoodoerheks: slow but safe, eh? OK, I'll try the double upgrade... Thanks!20:23
pirayelordcirth_work, yes i use command lines but i dont what is different between them20:23
TJ-mistralol: it's a good test to eliminate the issue - the swap to Wayland will/has broken quite a few things20:23
oerheksseefood, always have a fresh usb + iso ready20:24
lordcirth_workpiraye, on the command line, you can run 'nano ~/.bashrc' and add the line you want to the end.20:24
TJ-elichai2: well I'd always prefer UEFI mode. variety of reasons.20:24
mistralolTJ-: saw this before with unit when going from 16.04 -> 17.04 but I have no idea how to get gnome to display them.20:24
elichai2TJ-: and seriously thank you i've wasted hours trying to fix it and analyze logs20:24
pirayelordcirth_work, ok let try it20:24
TJ-elichai2: you're welcome20:24
seefoodoerheks: upgrading from a live USB better than with upgrade-manager -c?20:24
mistralolTJ-: also whats a good way to tell if i am runing in wayland rather than Xorg?20:24
mistralolTJ-: looks like I am still running Xorg to me20:25
seefoodoerheks: I have been upgrading Debians and Ubuntus in-vitro for about 17 years now, what am I missing?20:25
TJ-mistralol: "ps -efly | grep Xorg" --- if you don't see the Xorg process you're using the Wayland compositor20:25
lordcirth_workmistralol, you look for a xwayland process instead of a xorg process20:25
mistralolso i still have the Xorg process20:25
seefoodoerheks: I mean in-vivo. duh.20:25
mistralolbut no app notify icons :(20:26
TJ-mistralol: OK, so the other test is to create a new user profile, login to it, see if that suffers the same issue. Sometimes afer a release upgrade there are user-specific configs under ~/config/ or ~/.local/ that break things20:26
TJ-mistralol: a fresh user shouldn't have those problems20:27
pirayelordcirth_work, why should i run nano ~/.bashrc20:27
lordcirth_workpiraye, nano is an editor.  Don't you want to edit your ~/.bashrc?20:27
TJ-mistralol: then you could look for differences in settings affecting the panels or icons20:27
pirayelordcirth_work, yes20:27
pirayeafter run it give me some instruction20:28
pirayelordcirth_work,  i already opend the file .bashrc20:28
lordcirth_workpiraye, ok, so add the line you wanted then.20:29
pirayeshould i add my line at the end20:29
lordcirth_workpiraye, sure20:29
pirayeok,20:29
mistralolTJ-: mayby this has more todo with it slack:5440): libappindicator-WARNING **: Unable to connect to the Notification Watcher: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher' on object at path /StatusNotifierWatcher20:30
pirayelordcirth_work, should i add it like this 'export PIP_REQUIRE_VIRTUALENV=true' or like this 'PIP_REQUIRE_VIRTUALENV=true'20:31
pirayelordcirth_work, it is highlighted with yellow why?20:32
lordcirth_workpiraye, you need the 'export' for it to work.  But don't put the quotes in.20:33
pirayelordcirth_work, no of course but why highlighted with yellow20:36
scan...20:36
scanhello20:36
lordcirth_workpiraye, not sure; it is not highlighted for me.  nano has syntax highlighting, perhaps mine is slightly different.20:36
lordcirth_workscan, welcome20:36
scangabitas: hi20:36
gabitasscan, how do ya do?20:38
scangabitas: .i.20:38
lordcirth_workscan, did you have an Ubuntu support question?20:38
gabitasscan,  ahahhaha  are you like a stick?20:38
scanlordcirth_work: no, bored20:38
indroraHow do you disable the new dock extension?20:39
indroraI've tried using gnome-tweak-tool but that doesn't seem to help20:39
lordcirth_workscan, ah.  Well only support questions are on-topic here.  There is #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. Thanks!20:39
scanlordcirth_work: ok, sorry20:40
scanbye20:40
indroraSeriously, how do I get a stock GNOME session on artful?20:45
FullmetalSoraHello ! What username and password should I pass to the python function mariadb.connect on ubuntu ? Right now I use "root" and "" but I get the error "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'".20:46
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xanguaindrora: did your try to log out and check if you can select gnome shell session? Did you install gnome-shell?20:47
SeveasFullmetalSora: the mariadb installer will have asked you to set a password20:47
indroraxangua, gnome-shell is installed but I get no "GNOME" option in the session list.20:48
indroraI get Ubuntu, Ubuntu Xorg and Unity820:48
FullmetalSorait's set to nothing by default if i got it right. it didn't work so i tried to set it to nothing myself and it still doesn't work Seveas. I didn't had the problem on another linux distro that's why I'am asking here.20:49
TJ-indrora: I beleive there are tow packages you can install. ubuntu-gnome-desktop and/or vanilla-gnome-desktop20:49
SeveasFullmetalSora: other distros use a different installer. The debian package prompts for a password a few times.20:51
indroraTJ-, Aha that looks like what I wanted.20:52
troozersHi, does anyone know why desktop icons don't seem to appear on the Gnome desktop within 17.10?  I do have three screens driven by an Nvidia card, and have used Gnome Tweaks to make sure they are switched on.. but nothing shows :(20:52
maszloI have been driving myself crazy with something.. I think i finally have been able to recreate the issue, but unsure what it all means.  I am having issues booting when NOT attached to AC power.  Yesterday I upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10 and didnt notice any issues until i got home and could not get the system to boot.  today get back to the office.. plug in ethernet and plug in power cable and it just worked.. thought i was crazy20:52
indroratroozers, do they show the default icons?20:52
troozersNope, nothings on the desktop apart from the Dock20:53
striveDoes Ubuntu still collect users data?20:53
TJ-maszlo: used to be a common issue. ACPI related! firmware upgrades should usually fix it20:53
taraHello! I'm having big trouble with DNS, every time I log on I need to run the command "systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service" for my DNS to work (using KDE)20:54
indrorastrive, sends your harddrive to canonical for datamining ;)20:54
taraI've tried setting the DNS to 8.8.8.8 using an online guide, but I still have to run the command20:54
indroratara, how are you setting it?20:54
striveindrora: ?20:54
TJ-tara: are you not using NetworkManager to deal with the network?20:55
taraindrora: Network Manager - the WiFi - IPv4 - Other DNS servers20:55
maszloTJ-: okay will check lenovo for update.  this is what started the day with today and issue seemed to disapear untill i powered up in a meeting :P20:55
taraTJ-: yes20:55
indrorastrive, was sarcasm. no, Canonical stopped shipping amazon stuff.20:55
oerheksstrive that was a long time ago, but it did not send user data, just amazon search20:55
indroraat least, not in 17.1020:55
maszloI had to hear the remarks of the windows crew..20:55
TJ-tara: NM should be using a private instance of dnsmasq for DNS.20:56
striveAh, ok. Cool.20:56
strive<--Concerned citizen.20:56
taraTJ-: so I how to I permantly set it to 8.8.8.8 (google's)20:56
taraand it's a bit weird that "systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service" should fix this20:57
taragoing to do a restart20:59
TJ-tara: in the GUI there's the nm-applet taskbar activated icon and on its menu there's "Edit Connections...". using that select the connnection, and in the editor dialog, on the IPv4 Settings tab, Method should be set to either "Automatic (DHCP)" or "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" - with either you can then add a space-separated list of DNS server addresses in the "Additional DNS servers" text box20:59
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kentsfieldhey there =)21:03
kentsfieldI actually have a question about GRUB, I don't know if I'm right in this channel21:03
TJ-kentsfield: well if it's on Ubuntu fire aware; if it's pure GRUB there's #grub channel too21:04
Bashing-omkentsfield: Ask the question and see .21:04
lordcirth_works/aware/away/ ?21:05
kentsfieldahh. So there actually is a grub channel. I could have tried that too21:05
ubonehow to check if lubuntu 17.10 installed and uses the free radeon driver ?21:05
kentsfieldotherwise - i installed ubuntu server on a pc without any grafics via serial cable(RS232)21:05
TJ-kentsfield: brave :)21:06
Mathisenubone, lshw -c video21:06
kentsfieldI used a tutorial which said I need to install an SSH server while installing ubuntu, so I can connect via SSH. But I never got asked to install the SSH daemon. Therefore - I boot, I cant see anytihing obviously21:06
Bashing-omubone: What shows ' lsb_release -a ; lsmod | grep radeon ' ?21:06
lordcirth_workkentsfield, you don't have a monitor and keyboard?21:07
TJ-kentsfield: hmmm, the ubuntu-server installer usually installs openssh-server by default, I'm pretty sure21:07
kentsfieldI have a command line to enter which tells grub to output anything on tty0. But well, I cant update that live on the system itself21:07
kentsfieldlordcirth_work: its not that I cant connect anything because i dont have a monitor. The hardware has no graphical output whatsoever.21:07
hehehehow I can get Peer of Ubuntu title?21:07
TJ-kentsfield: so, you have Ubuntu installed on the PC. Can you now see the GRUB menu over the serial link?21:07
kentsfieldits a PC engines APU unit21:08
kentsfieldTJ-: I thought openssh is installed by default, but I tried to connect via SSH and got an instant timeout. And no, I dont see anything :(21:08
lordcirth_workhehehe, no idea what you mean21:08
TJ-kentsfield: when you installed, did you configure GRUB to use a serial console when it rebooted?21:09
kentsfieldjust to tell you what I thought is possible - im at my notebook right now. I thought i just connect the USB stick where ubuntu is temporarily installed to the notebook, edit grub, be happy.21:09
TJ-kentsfield: what kind of storage device is the installation on? can it be moved to another system so you can chroot-mount it to fix it up?21:09
kentsfieldTJ-: no I did not :(21:09
lordcirth_workkentsfield, is the storage easily removable?  It might be easiest to just boot it on a different device, set it up, and move it back21:10
kentsfieldYep, as said - the usb flash drive is not plugged in my notebook21:10
TJ-kentsfield: OK, not a big issue then.21:11
kentsfieldi searched for grub.cfg but i dont know what to edit exactly, and changing things in /etc/default/grub and then updating it will probably mess up the grub installed on my notebook :/21:11
TJ-kentsfield: is the APU x86_64 based?21:11
kentsfieldYes, it contains a AMD embedded CPU (I think Geode?), amd64 compatible.21:11
TJ-kentsfield: yeah, the T40E or whatever... but x86_64 compat21:12
kentsfieldyep :)21:12
maszloTJ-: i updated to the newest bios for the notebook and same results. This is a lenovo T450s.  I could power on without AC on 17.0421:12
TJ-kentsfield: ok... when you plugged the USB into your PC did the installed file-system get automatically mounted under /media/$USER/ for you ?21:12
kentsfieldyes, I did21:12
TJ-maszlo: OK. let me deal with kentsfield first21:13
maszloTJ-: here is the output i get when its not powered.  https://s1.postimg.org/4lejsacu5r/IMAG2860.jpg21:13
maszloTJ-: np21:13
TJ-kentsfield: Ok, so you can do a chroot into the rootfs. If, for example, the rootfs of the USB is at /media/$USER/USB then you can do this: "export MP=/media/$USER/USB; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$n $MP/$n; done; sudo chroot $MP" then you're at a root-level shell in the install...21:14
TJ-darn! all that typing for nuffin!21:15
TJ-aha!21:15
TJ-kentsfield: Ok, so you can do a chroot into the rootfs. If, for example, the rootfs of the USB is at /media/$USER/USB then you can do this: "export MP=/media/$USER/USB; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$n $MP/$n; done; sudo chroot $MP" then you're at a root-level shell in the install...21:15
kentsfieldwhoops, my notebook crashed :/ sorry21:15
TJ-kentsfield: ... at that point you can do "sudo apt install openssh-server" and hopefully it'll have the net connectivity to fetch/install packages21:16
kentsfieldnicey! :)21:16
kentsfieldill give it a try21:16
TJ-kentsfield: you can also make changes in /etc/default/grub to enable the GRUB serial console, AND as a bonus, you can add to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." line there the kernel options to enable the kernel to work over serial too... let me dig up from my notes what you need for that21:17
TJ-kentsfield: here we go... "console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8" - assuming the port is the first RS232 port and it's operating at 115200 baud, no parity, 8 bits21:18
kentsfieldIt does actually!21:18
kentsfieldwhat an coincidende :)21:18
TJ-kentsfield: the last console= entry on the kernel command-line is the one it takes input from. all the others can 'see' output but not send input21:18
TJ-kentsfield: once you've altered /etc/default/grub and saved it, you need to do "update-grub" to write those settings to the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file used at boot-time21:19
kentsfielduh, i just found out that /media is not used as root21:20
TJ-kentsfield: once you're finished with the chroot, do "exit" to get back to the host, then do "for n in proc sys dev/pts dev run; do sudo umount $MP/$n; done"21:20
TJ-kentsfield: OK, well, you need to identify where the USB device was auto-mounted to by udisks21:20
kentsfieldfacepalm... media _is_ used. I thought you meant something else, so i looked up the /media folder on the usb drive...21:22
kentsfieldand obviously it was empty21:22
TJ-kentsfield: no, the USB itself is usually mounted under /media/$USER/ by udisks21:23
krashekspresshave some problems with AMD rx580, screen "skewed" in GDM, disk unlock screen and Wayland, but if I login to xorg it fixes it self and then I can relog to Wayland (Wayland and GDM are then fixed too)21:23
TJ-kentsfield: "grep media /proc/mounts" will help identify if the USB device is mounted under that point, or you can use "lsblk"21:24
krashekspressexample: https://imgur.com/a/MhHbd21:24
indrorakrashekspress, is this on a laptop LCD? can you disable scaling?21:25
krashekspressmonitor21:26
krashekspressindrora, you mean monitor scaling21:27
krashekspressdidn't try that21:27
kentsfieldTJ-: it looks like it works!21:27
kentsfieldi just installed openssh21:27
kentsfieldi needed to twek your code a bit since it was not mounted as /media/$USER/USB, but somehow instead of USB the stick had an extremely long hexadecimal number. and using $USER screwed something up, I had / and \ at the same time, so i just inserted my username which worked fine21:28
kentsfieldbut openssh installed just fine21:29
indrorakrashekspress, try that.21:29
maszloTJ-: would you happen to want to take a crack at one more problem? :)21:31
krashekspressindrora, disabling autoscaling on monitor didn't help :(21:31
indrorakrashekspress, Hmm. VGA or digital input?21:32
krashekspresshdmi21:32
indroraweird. Does your monitor have an auto-config button?21:32
krashekspressit's kinda strange, if I take screenshot, that picture is fine :)21:32
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Ben64krashekspress: what does xrandr output21:33
Ben64does xrandr work on wayland?21:33
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indroraDon't know21:33
krashekspressScreen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3440 x 1440, maximum 8192 x 819221:33
krashekspressXWAYLAND0 connected 3440x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 800mm x 330mm21:33
krashekspress   3440x1440     59.94*+21:33
krashekspresslooks like it works21:33
Ben64is your screen 3440x1440?21:34
maszloIf i boot with AC attached works just fine.  if i disconnect ac and boot i get this on first boot attempt. https://s1.postimg.org/70a965z0sf/IMAG2859.jpg  and then this on following https://s1.postimg.org/4lejsacu5r/IMAG2860.jpg21:34
krashekspressBen64, yes21:34
krashekspressdon't have that problem on integrated GPU21:34
TJ-maszlo: you know when you said the system wouldn't boot when not on power, I thought you meant nothing happened - from your photo it looks like GRUB hands over to Linux fine, and systemd is up and running too21:34
maszloIf i attach AC it will boot up just fine.  one thing i have noticed is that the grub timeout changes from from 3 seconds (where grub is set) to 30 second when its going to throw errors21:35
indrorakrashekspress, what's your gpu?21:35
krashekspressindrora,  rx58021:35
TJ-maszlo: can you show us "pastebinit <( cat /proc/cmdline )" please21:35
kentsfieldAlright TJ-, ill give it a try! Everything worked out fine so far =)21:35
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TJ-kentsfield: good luck :)21:36
Guest30761hello ubuntu 5.04 ;)21:36
kentsfieldthanks!21:36
indrorakrashekspress, Does a livecd boot correctly?21:36
krashekspressindrora, yes21:36
maszloTJ-: should i do this from fully booted or login to another tty on failed login?21:36
TJ-maszlo: either, which is easiest for you21:37
indrorakrashekspress, If you log in from the broken gdm screen, does it come up right?21:37
kentsfieldOkay, I now see grub! This works so far21:37
krashekspressnope21:37
kentsfieldlets see if SSH is enabled21:37
indrorakrashekspress, have you installed the nonfree ATI driver?21:37
krashekspressindrora, unless I switch to xorg21:37
krashekspressindrora, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/172479621:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1724796 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Picture is heavily malformed" [Undecided,New]21:37
TJ-kentsfield: that assumes you've got network set up too of course! did you check on that whilst in the chroot ?21:37
krashekspressindrora, using OS driver21:38
krashekspressindrora, https://photos.app.goo.gl/NDzYy2GNrUBCPTS92 if I boot to wayland from broken gdm21:38
indrorakrashekspress, so a 17.10 livecd boots and runs fine. Is this an upgrade or fresh install?21:39
Ben64krashekspress: so does it not fill the whole screen21:39
krashekspressindrora, upgrade, but had same problem on 17.0421:39
maszloTJ-: https://pastebin.com/DTdRYEWG21:39
kentsfieldTJ-: I have not, but SSH works! I just cant log in somehow using the user data I created whilst installing the system...21:39
indrorakrashekspress, do you remember how you solved it on 17.04?21:40
krashekspressBen64, it doesn't fill whole screen, you are correct, its like 1;1 i think21:40
Ben64cool21:40
krashekspressindrora, I didn't, was just using integrated21:40
TJ-kentsfield: what command are you using? "ssh user@apu2" ?21:40
krashekspressindrora, I was thinking it might get fixed with 17.10 but it didn't :)21:40
indroraHmm.21:40
idodeisukeI just upgraded to 17.10 and suddenly mpv stopped accepting the screencap format ppm, what can I do (I love ppm, it's fast and lossless).21:40
indrorakrashekspress, I'd see if nomodeset helps but that's all I can think of now.21:41
krashekspressindrora, funny thing is, if I go into Xorg session evrything gets repaired21:41
bjorkintoshI upgraded from .04 to .10, and I want to try out wayland.21:41
krashekspressindrora, ok, thanks, will try21:41
kentsfieldand again - facepalm. I forgot that I created another user than usual, so the login was wrong...21:41
bjorkintoshmy system's still running unity. what do I need to install to try wayland?21:41
kentsfieldTJ-: nope, im using windows this time to connect to the machine. I would use that command with my notebook, but on my main windows pc im using putty21:42
TJ-kentsfield: less haste, more speed :)21:42
bjorkintoshi figured there was a desktop environment and whatnot21:42
TJ-kentsfield: aahhh21:42
kentsfieldIm so happy right now! :D I waited ages for the hardware to arrive, now its there and up n' running!21:42
kentsfieldSSH works now, Thanks so much TJ- :D21:43
TJ-kentsfield: you're welcome21:43
* kentsfield is happy because he can finally play around with OEM hardware21:43
johnnyfiveWayland is fun. I've been using #sway as my compositor, it has a few rough edges but it's on it's way to being glorious21:43
TJ-maszlo: OK, I use my clairvoyant powers to deduce your system has a buggy ACPI DSDT firmware, we have to get Linux to pretend to be a version of Windows your system is looking for. Read this article I wrote and apply the fix, and test. http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html21:44
bjorkintoshjohnnyfive, how did you get it up and running? i don't see it from the options. I see some Xorg stuff, I see MwM but nothing on wayland.21:44
ikoniaTJ-: solid effort tonight from you, kudos21:44
kentsfieldalright, i will continue setting up the system. Thanks again to everyone, especially TJ-! Bye!21:45
maszloTJ-: i did notice that that 4.8.0.37 is not the newest version i have installed.  it should be using 4.13.0.1621:45
johnnyfiveHow did I get wayland running on ubuntu? I didn't, sorry, I use another distro. But it should be as simple as installing wayland/sway in apt, then starting sway manually via cli21:45
bjorkintoshjohnnyfive, not at all.21:46
bjorkintoshanyway, i'll figure it out.21:46
johnnyfivewayland by itself won't be very satisfying, have to choose a compositor as well21:46
bjorkintoshsway's not an option though.21:47
TJ-ikonia: it seems like every other issue is solved with "acpi_osi=Windows XXXX" - might start just repeating that in my sleep21:48
johnnyfive bjorkintosh sudo apt-get install libwayland0, then https://launchpad.net/%7Es.noack/+archive/ubuntu/ppa21:49
ikoniaTJ-: never hurts to thank someone - nice work21:49
bjorkintoshit's already installed.21:49
johnnyfiveI'd only recommend sway if you're into tiling WM though. Very different from what most people are used to21:49
bjorkintoshi've used a tiling wm before.21:50
johnnyfiveWell if you liked it, i'd say give it a try. Def the fastest WM i've ever used, hands down. Crazy fast21:50
krashekspressindrora, nomodeset resolvs the problem of skewed picture, but now my max resolution is 1280x1024 :(21:53
krashekspressis there specific kernel paremeter for AMD gpu (like nouveau.modeset=0 for nvidia) ?21:56
indrorakrashekspress, that would be radeon.nomodeset=121:57
mzKasHey ppl21:58
maszloTJ-: I am going to give that acpi osi option a swing tomorrow.  I have to be somewhere in an hour and need to leave the office.21:58
seanhTJ-: FYI, I did go and install Windows 10 on that ThinkPad X240 with no wifi - same result: ethernet, bluetooth, and  mobile broadband but no wifi, even after installing Windows updates, and using Lenovo's Windows app to upgrade to the latest BIOS21:59
mzKascan anyone tell me why after installing 17.10, im stuck with xor and no wayland?21:59
mzKas*xorg21:59
TJ-seanh: thanks for letting us know that seems to confirm a hardware issue, whether the adapter or the motherboard it's hard to tell though.21:59
maszloTJ-: thanks for your time21:59
TJ-maszlo: good luck with it.22:00
TJ-maszlo: 98% of the time that's the fix22:00
maszloTJ-: does it seem normal that was not an issue for years?22:00
maszloTJ-: I mean, i am sure a lot has changed in 17.10, but i dunno22:01
TJ-maszlo: read my article and you'll understand why it's becoming more prevalent22:01
maszloTJ-: i did read it, which is why seemed weird that was not an issue for last ~3 years22:03
TJ-maszlo: newer kernels improve the correctness of the ACPI implementation. That often causes it to revela bugs in the existing ACPI DSDT's in systems that previously didn't show the problems.22:03
TJ-maszlo: but the core issue is that most DSDT's only configure full functionality when they find a recent version of Windows is running22:04
maszloTJ-: oh i see22:05
macksfieldI have Ubuntu installed on a 120GB SSD, just got a 960GB SSD -> think I should do LVM and merge them or use the other SSD another way?22:05
maszloTJ-: thanks again.22:05
TJ-macksfield: LVM makes most sense22:05
TJ-maszlo: is the existing 120GB using LVM already?22:06
TJ-oops22:06
ubonedpaste.de/mnTT  -- lubuntu 32bit video issues in fullscreen and geeral poor performance, it seems it uses radeon? but does not work right, added radeon.dpm=1 to grub cmdline_linux no change tho what to do?22:06
TJ-macksfield: : is the existing 120GB using LVM already?22:06
macksfieldTJ-: thanks, does that mean I'll have to format the 120GB ssd? (it's just anormal install)22:06
TJ-macksfield: you could do half/half. E.g. create LVM VG on the new device, create a logical volume for /home/, then move the existing /home/ content over into it, and then add to /etc/stab "/dev/mapper/VG-LVhome /home/ ext4 defaults 0 2" for example22:07
TJ-macksfield: it depends where in the file-system you want most space. With LVM you can have loads of LVS if you want. I have about 20. /home/ /var/ /usr/local/ plus /home/all/{VirtualMachines,schroot,Projects,SourceCode,containers} ... you get the drift. With LV I allocate a minimal amount of space inititally to the LVs and then extend them when they need more with "lvextend -L +2G VG/LV; resize2fs22:09
TJ-/dev/mapper/VG-LV" - that can be done whilst the file-system is online in use22:09
mzKasguess nobody has same problem22:10
macksfieldTJ-: I was with you to the last part. #1 create LVM vg on 960gb drive #2 move my /home/ over to it. #3 ?? add /etc/stab??22:10
TJ-macksfield: sorry, type. Add to /etc/fstab (the file-system mount table)22:10
TJ-macksfield: that's where the system configures which devices get mounted where22:11
macksfieldahhh okay22:11
macksfieldthanks again ^-^22:11
TJ-macksfield: if you want flexibilty you could create multiple partitions on the larger device, and make them all PVs (physical volumes) part of the VG, but later you could drop an unused PV from the VG for a different use if required.22:12
macksfieldI like that idea22:14
TJ-macksfield: are you familar with using LVM commands?22:15
crippledmonkrunning Artful Aardvark on older C2Duo (GD8000) rugged laptop. It's working very well22:18
vantageHi all, a couple of quick questions abou 17.10. 1) The new dock. When there are multiple windows open is there a way to get it to select the most recently opened window as opposed to the menu of open windows? This was the default behaviour in 17.0422:18
vantageand 2) Is there a way to get chromium and firefox to put their file menu in the application drop down on the top bar like other apps do?22:19
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cristian_cvantage: 1) ypu could try the old tecnique: alt+tab22:42
macksfieldwhat's your guy's favorite desktop email client? ^-^22:42
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coolspothi22:43
vantagecristian_c: ha. While that would work around the problem, it's not really the solution I'm looking for :)22:43
cristian_cvantage: 2) I think global menu was relwted to unity, not gnome shell22:44
cristian_cbut I can be wrong22:44
cristian_cvantage: the first question could be also related to unity22:44
vantagecristian_c: Nah, just upgraded to 17.10 which is using the new gnome default interface22:45
cristian_cvantage: I agree22:45
vantagecristian_c: the old unity behaviour in this scenario worked better. Single click went to last used window, double click allowed you to pick which one you wanted22:46
cristian_cI mean: the default features you talk about, should be related to unity22:46
cristian_cwhen changing to gnome shell, they could be disappeared22:46
cristian_cvantage: I'm not an usual gnome user, a good idea coukd be asking to gnome guys, in order to knowmifmthey support those feauteres22:48
cristian_c*feautures22:48
vantagecristian_c: yeah, the behaviour is different, I was just wondering if there was a way to customize it. I thought gnome tweak would do it, but I can't find anything there22:48
cristian_cvantage: already looked at gnome shell add-ons22:49
cristian_c?22:49
vantagecristian_c: hunting at the moment. Haven't found anything yet22:49
DbuggerHello everyone23:09
oerhekshi Dbugger23:09
DbuggerI just updated to 17.10 and I am wondering... did the workspace grid disappear? Now I only have workspaces vertically23:09
DbuggerI quite like the look of everything in general, but those workspaces where golden to me23:10
Dbuggerit would be a shame if I cant have them as before23:10
oerheksi am still on 17.04, does gnome-tweak give any options?23:11
Dbuggerwell, yes, it allows to set a fixed amount of workspaces, but just in 1 direction23:11
Dbuggerdoes not allow to set them in a grid, like 2x2 or 3x323:11
oerheks:-(23:11
DbuggerI can just set "4 workspaces"23:11
oerheksthat must be tweakable23:11
DbuggerI really hope so...23:11
DbuggerBut I did not find a solution yet :-/23:12
hggdhyes, there is no grid anymore (or until someone writes an extension23:12
Dbuggerwell, I guess it is early days still...maybe if I give it a couple weeks, some solutions will start to pop up23:12
[n0mad]according to this https://askubuntu.com/questions/966442/can-i-have-2x2-workspaces-in-ubuntu-17-10 you'll need an extension23:12
Dbugger[n0mad], the last comment on the solution is mine :P23:13
Dbuggeri cant seem to install that plugin, the way it is explained in the documentation23:13
amiriteim thinking about getting a drone, what should i buy23:14
hggdhDbugger: correction. Already written -- https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/23:14
[n0mad]i'm not sure why you'd be doing it that way23:14
[n0mad]if you "get more extensions" it takes you to the gnome extensions page23:14
oerheksmake it work adding "3.26" to its metadata.json file.??23:14
[n0mad]then you can search workspace grid23:14
[n0mad]then you should be able to just click the toggle23:15
Dbuggerok, wait... step by step. How do I get to "get more extension"?23:15
[n0mad]well in mine i just go to gnome-tweak-tool > extensions, then scroll to the bottom and it's a link23:16
DbuggerI am in "Tweaks" and in the "Extensions" tab I see no options to install new extensions23:16
[n0mad]did they remove that too?23:16
[n0mad]Dbugger:23:17
[n0mad]did you just try clicking the workspace grid link and then clicking the toggle?23:17
Dbuggerwhich link?23:18
[n0mad]https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/23:18
[n0mad]it should show an off/on toggle, does for me anyways23:18
DbuggerThis is how it looks to me; http://picpaste.com/pics/Untitled-5HtXnLf8.1508455144.png23:19
radiushello23:19
radiusI succesfully managed to setup a diskless ubuntu23:19
Dbuggeroh wow, I didnt see that toggle23:19
Dbuggerlet me try23:19
radiusbut now I want to be able to mount usb drives23:19
radiusit shows the devices connected for example in dmesg23:20
radiusbut it doesn't assign them a node23:20
Dbuggeroh yes! it works! :)23:21
DbuggerThanks a lot, fellas :)23:21
[n0mad]sure thing, glad it works. seems like an odd thing to all of a sudden be changed23:21
DbuggerWell, the pop-up that we had before, when switching between workspaces seemed better, but that is now smaller stuff23:21
Dbuggeri guess it will improve the UI with time23:22
Dbuggercool cool. Im kinda glad to not have Unity anymore. I was never a big fan... Now lets see how this desktop holds up23:22
DbuggerIm gonna now sleep, take care everyone!23:22
oerhekshave fun Dbugger23:23
Dbuggersleeping? I will try :)23:23
th34lch3m1sthi, I need to sync 4-5 folders of my home directory with rsync (Desktop, Documents, .config, .fonts etc etc).23:45
th34lch3m1stI'm using rsync -auv --include-from=includedlist.txt --exclude-from=excludedlist.txt /media/storagedisk/backup/, but it'd not working...any hints?23:45
th34lch3m1st* /media/user/storagedisk/backup/23:46
oerheksuse full path to those .txt files?23:46
th34lch3m1stoerheks they are in home...23:47
oerhekstry /home/$USER/... txt23:47
oerheksnot sure, my 1st thought23:47
b1anchi, what do I need to only send mail notifications from eg scan results from cronjobs from my server to an external email like johndoe@yahoo.com ?23:48
th34lch3m1stoerhecks ok23:48
Bashing-omth34lch3m1st: Where/how is the source directory(s) declared ?23:49
th34lch3m1stoerhecks nop, 0 total size sendef23:49
th34lch3m1stBashing-om --include option does not work as a source directory?23:51
th34lch3m1stBashing-om because, if I specify /home/user as a source it copy all directories in the home, and ignore includedlist.txt content...23:53
th34lch3m1stit would be better if I pastebin command and txt files content?23:54

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