[03:06] <grahamperrin[m]> Back to basics for a moment. With FreeBSD, I know that hibernate e.g. suspend to disk is not possible. With Kubuntu, I'm surprised to find a notebook with a flat battery after a period of sleep.
[03:07] <grahamperrin[m]> Must I set a preference, for Kubuntu to automatically hibernate when the battery drops below some level?
[03:14] <DarinMiller> grahamperrin[m]: System settings -> Power Mang.  -> Energy Savings -> On low battery (tab)
[03:14] <DarinMiller> although, i am not sure it will wake from suspend to hibernate....
[03:15] <DarinMiller> hibernation has never been a strong point for Linux, so don't be surprised if you encounter issues. i.e. Ensure to save any work before testings.
[03:35] <grahamperrin[m]> DarinMiller: thanks
[03:37] <grahamperrin[m]> Digging deeper, in retrospect maybe it was not a flat battery. I charged it for a while, still no boot; removed the battery and it would not boot with the power adapter alone; reinserted the batter, removed the adapter, still no boot. Eventually rekindled by pressing and holding the power button probably whilst without the battery or power adapter.
[03:37] <grahamperrin[m]> (I had previously pressed and held the power button, without effect.)
[03:38] <grahamperrin[m]> Just one of those things. I had similar misbehaviour with the hardware (Ergo Vista 621) a handful of times in the past.
[06:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:09] <freakyy> hi ;D
[06:09] <freakyy> what do u guys think, should i try out kde? ... i currently only have ubuntu gnome installed and i wonder how kde looks like now with 17.10 ;D
[06:10] <freakyy> if i install kubuntu-desktop, will it also install plymouth theme or just install but not switch default?
[06:10] <hateball> Yep!
[06:10] <freakyy> ok so then - i need to install kubuntu-desktop right?
[06:11] <freakyy> hateball:
[06:12] <hateball> freakyy: Yeah, to get all associated applications etc
[06:12] <freakyy> ok installing. download at 1,5MB/s means, around 4 mins 30 secs to download everything ;D
[06:12] <hateball> :)
[06:13] <freakyy> i wonder, is the default theme good or should i try something like
[06:13] <freakyy> adapta
[06:13] <hateball> freakyy: Personally I use look&feel to pick breeze-dark
[06:13] <lordievader> What you could also do, if you don't want to mess with your current install, is download a live image.
[06:14] <hateball> freakyy: installing kubuntu-desktop will also change your login manager to sddm instead of.. whatever vanilla ubuntu uses now
[06:14] <freakyy> nah, i can easily switch back plymouth and i guess, what does gdm use as login manager?
[06:14] <hateball> well, you'll get asked which you want to use
[06:14] <freakyy> i mean, gnome
[06:14] <freakyy> gdm right? and not kdm?
[06:14] <freakyy> hateball: ok ;D
[06:15] <hateball> it used to be lightdm, but I am not sure if they switched back to gdm
[06:15] <freakyy> i think they switched back to gdm
[06:15] <freakyy> as gdm is installed
[06:16] <freakyy> lightdm isnt
[06:18] <freakyy> how do i switch display manager lager on?
[06:18] <freakyy> if i wanna try sddm but wanna switch back to gdm too?
[06:18] <freakyy> its installin now
[06:19] <freakyy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:19] <freakyy> found out ;D
[06:19] <freakyy> thx
[06:19] <freakyy> it will take another 5 minutes i guess to install
[06:27] <freakyy> hateball:  hm ok (about breeze-dark)
[06:29] <freakyy> 1/3 left
[06:29] <freakyy> im installing on my laptop so everythins a bit slow
[06:29] <freakyy> but i might like kde but still, gnome is good
[06:29] <freakyy> does kde have something like these windows 10 features, where, only the icon is in the bottom bar and u can "stick" it to the panel?
[06:31] <lordievader> KDE goes very far in customizing it how you like it. I think that what you describe is possible.
[06:33] <freakyy> ok thanks
[06:33] <freakyy> the install is soon finished
[06:33] <freakyy> ill then - switch desktops
[06:33] <freakyy> wahts the default console für kde? still konsole?
[06:33] <freakyy> it finished installing
[06:33] <freakyy> switching, brb
[06:34] <hateball> freakyy: you can rightclick running apps and "pin a launcher when not running" or some such
[06:34]  * hateball only uses hotkeys or krunner to launch things, has no icons
[06:35]  * lordievader same here
[06:58] <freakyy> yay
[06:58] <freakyy> i like kde
[06:58] <freakyy> it looks good
[06:58] <freakyy> the dark theme
[06:59] <freakyy> etc.
[06:59] <freakyy> though i dont like konsole better than gnome terminal
[07:01] <freakyy> hm kubuntu has many features
[07:01] <freakyy> i must say
[07:01] <freakyy> it looks nice
[07:01] <freakyy> is it possible that its slower than gnome? oO
[07:02] <freakyy> i mean takes longer to bood
[07:03] <hateball> what do you mean by boot?
[07:03] <hateball> from the time you enter password until desktop shows?
[07:03] <hateball> freakyy: also note that the first time you run, baloo will index your ~/ so that slows it down a bit
[07:04] <hateball> well, not only the first time, continously, but the first time will be noticeable..
[07:05] <freakyy> hateball: yes ... the desktop takes long to load. especially, firs tsteam is displayed, then discord ... and later first the desktop
[07:05] <freakyy> i like kde connect
[07:05] <hateball> :)
[07:05] <freakyy> but dont know where my music files are free-hand ;D
[07:06] <freakyy> how can i make the bottom bar default size
[07:06] <freakyy> i played with it now its too smal
[07:06] <freakyy> l
[07:07] <hateball> well... resize it?
[07:07] <hateball> the way you made it smaller, make it bigger :p
[07:07] <valorie> hit the "hamburger" menu and resize
[07:09] <freakyy> hateball: hm, id like to stick with the default
[07:09] <freakyy> a pitty u cant reset to default
[07:12] <freakyy> hm
[07:12] <freakyy> is there anything in kde i should check out? :D
[07:12] <freakyy> im already usin breeze dark
[07:12] <freakyy> ;D
[07:13] <freakyy> can i uninstall ubuntu desktop im wondering
[07:13] <freakyy> or should i do a fresh install
[07:13] <freakyy> but then id have to do it on 2 pcs
[07:13] <freakyy> and install lots of stuff again
[07:14] <hateball> freakyy: well... if you uninstall ubuntu-desktop I guess it might have common deps with kubuntu-desktop and that would cause unwanted breakage
[07:14] <freakyy> ok
[07:14] <freakyy> then il just keep ubuntu
[07:14] <hateball> so if you want "clean" then installing clean is the only way I'd say
[07:15] <hateball> least painful, at any rate
[07:15] <hateball> unless you're strapped for disk space there's not much point in removing the gnome stuff
[07:15] <freakyy> ok ;D
[07:15] <hateball> suppose it saves time during upgrades etc
[07:15] <freakyy> nah i have lots of disk space
[07:15] <freakyy> doesnt matter
[07:17] <freakyy> i used kde back before plasma
[07:17] <freakyy> ;D
[07:17] <freakyy> nice how it evolved ;D
[07:17] <freakyy> hope they continue adding cool features
[07:18] <hateball> I think that's the general idea :p
[07:18] <hateball> but yeah, a "restore fresh session" option might be something nice, but it does not exist for now
[07:18] <hateball> freakyy: you can however rightclick a "broken" panel and remove it, then rightclick the workspace and add a new default panel
[07:23] <freakyy> i have another question. google chrome doesnt have like, the normal close/minimzie etc. buttons but instead the default kde ones. usually chrome doesnt use system window decorations?
[07:24] <freakyy> oh wait
[07:24] <freakyy> now it doesnt but
[07:24] <freakyy> it doesnt display minimize/close etc at all now
[07:27] <freakyy> want a screenshot?
[07:27] <freakyy> if i maximize the window it wont work
[07:27] <freakyy> no more close/maximize/minimize
[07:28] <freakyy> how to make screenshots in kde?
[07:30] <freakyy> https://i.imgur.com/9G8QBPX.png
[07:35] <freakyy> also on the lower right u can see, 2 icons not visible - thats steam and owncloud
[07:35] <freakyy> how can i make them visible?
[07:35] <freakyy> i might need to change something dunno one moment relogging in
[07:35] <freakyy> ah nm not now
[07:35] <freakyy> later
[07:36] <oerheks> what is that 'Uwe' label ?
[07:36] <freakyy> thats my name
[07:36] <freakyy> its logged in into google chrome - and synchronization
[07:36] <oerheks> oke, so logged in on your google account, it displays over the min-max-close?
[07:37] <hateball> freakyy: you can rightclick chrome title bar and tell it to use system decorations or not
[07:38] <hateball> it's the same with chromium, and in for example incognito mode as well (not logged in)
[07:38] <hateball> it started a while back, I forgot about filing a bug for it
[07:38] <hateball> freakyy: you should see the window controls if Chrome isnt maximized tho
[07:39] <freakyy> yes but i dont want to use system-bar and if i dont use system bar, it shows like on the screenshot
[07:39] <freakyy> yes then i see them
[07:40] <hateball> freakyy: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=375650
[07:41] <freakyy> thats a real pitty
[07:41] <freakyy> that it doesnt work like this
[07:42] <freakyy> it should work ;(
[07:42] <freakyy> and that since 2013?
[07:42] <hateball> lol there's older chromium bugs than that xD
[07:43] <oerheks> or it is the " That button which appears next to the min/max/close button is called "Enable new profile management "
[07:44] <freakyy> i voted for the bug
[07:49] <freakyy> brb restart
[07:51] <hateball> freakyy: as you can see it is duplicate of https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=594490 tho, and that seems like it should be fixed in 63
[08:01] <freakyy> im using chrome beta but still the problem ;D
[08:02] <freakyy> btw, every time i try to shutdown or restart, the lower right thing says: "Shutdown canceled by """
[08:02] <freakyy> and if i do it again it works then
[08:04] <jonathan_x> Anyone have a clue how I can get LVM to ignore a physical volume that was previously activated?
[08:04] <jonathan_x> I mean how can I completely remove a physical volume from the memory of the system?
[08:05] <jonathan_x> Filtering doesn't work, it is still using the volume group and its volumes, even after I deactivated the vg.
[08:08] <jonathan_x> Oh apologies, I used "filter" instead of "global_filter"
[08:11] <freakyy> hateball? :)
[08:12] <hateball> freakyy: What?
[08:13] <freakyy> hateball: do u know about the problem that when u click shutdown, it stops with message: Shutdown canceled by "" ?
[08:13] <freakyy> because i have to click twice every time
[08:14] <hateball> probably caused by some app you've got running
[08:15] <freakyy> yea :(
[08:16] <hateball> trial and error is all I can suggest, not sure if there's a way to enable some verbose logging of plasmashell
[08:17] <freakyy> ok but i want to use all programs that i have running
[08:17] <freakyy> oh and i dont need ibus panel
[08:17] <freakyy> can i stop it from beeing displayed?
[08:20] <freakyy> hm, id like a better font for konsole let me check
[08:21] <hateball> freakyy: I mean that if you kill apps 1 by 1 before shutdown you'd find out which one prevents proper shutdown, and then you can troubleshoot that
[08:21] <freakyy> i know
[08:21] <freakyy> yea i will have to do that
[08:21] <freakyy> now i have a nice font
[08:22] <freakyy> i like ubuntu mono
[08:22] <freakyy> :)
[08:22] <freakyy> as console font
[08:22] <freakyy> :D
[08:22] <freakyy> better than "Hack" ;D
[08:22] <hateball> for instance Steam used to prevent proper shutdown, so it had to be closed first
[08:22] <freakyy> yes i have steam installed
[08:22] <freakyy> cant they do anything bout that
[08:22] <freakyy> with gnome it works
[08:28] <hateball> I said used to, it should be fixed
[08:28] <freakyy> does kde have a bluelight filter
[08:28] <hateball> It was just an example, I don't know what applications you run
[08:29] <freakyy> ok thanks :D
[08:29] <freakyy> do u know if kde has a bluelight filter?
[08:29] <valorie> freakyy: it's coming
[08:29] <freakyy> awkay ;D
[08:29] <valorie> if it's not already in plasma 5.11.1
[08:29] <freakyy> thx ^^
[08:29] <valorie> which is what I'm running
[08:29] <freakyy> valorie: r u on kubuntu 17.10?
[08:29] <freakyy> im on kubuntu 17.10
[08:29] <valorie> will soon be available in backports for Artful
[08:29] <freakyy> ok ;D
[08:30] <freakyy> how do i enable backports with kde?
[08:30] <valorie> oh yes, have been since the alpha
[08:30] <valorie> !backports
[08:30] <dax> there's a plasma widget for redshift, if plasma doesn't have it built in yet
[08:30] <valorie> yup
[08:30] <hateball> like valorie said, it will come with kwin in 5.11
[08:30] <dax> !info plasma-applet-redshift-control
[08:30] <valorie> redshift works pretty well these days
[08:30] <freakyy> oh i have to add an extra ppa?
[08:31] <valorie> backports is a PPA, yes
[08:31] <valorie> only tested stuff goes in there
[08:31] <valorie> I've always run backports and never had a problem
[08:31] <valorie> for like 7 years
[08:32] <freakyy> awkay thx ;D
[08:33] <valorie> we might wait until Plasma 5.11.2 because there is one bugfix we want to get in there
[08:33] <freakyy> ok :) adding backports on my laptop now too
[08:35] <freakyy> is there any integration with owncloud in kde?=
[08:37] <hateball> freakyy: you can install the owncloud client if you like
[08:38] <hateball> last time I did it wiped my kwallet without asking, but that was a while ago
[08:38] <hateball> I've only used it through a browser since
[08:38] <freakyy> ok then ill use the one from their website, thx ;D
[08:38] <valorie> nextcloud might be a better bet
[08:39] <valorie> the original maintainer went there
[08:39] <freakyy> nah i have an owncloud server
[08:42] <freakyy> no, it's steam :(
[08:50] <hateball> freakyy: hmmm, maybe only fixed in beta then
[08:51] <hateball> freakyy: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3301
[08:51] <hateball> iirc it was fixed at some point, maybe it's re-broken. whatever, I just kill it manually prior to shutdown :p
[09:00] <freakyy> ok thank you
[09:20] <Drinfeld> I have Kubuntu 17.04 AMD64 installed and I am using the nvidia driver. Can I upgrade to 17.10 without problems or do I have to disable the nvidia driver first?
[09:23] <hateball> Drinfeld: You can upgrade just fine
[09:24] <hateball> Drinfeld: if you are using the nvidia ppa it will get disabled tho, so you'll need to fix that after upgrade
[09:25] <hateball> if you're just using default repos, nothing special will happen
[09:25] <Drinfeld> hateball: OK, thanks!
[09:28] <user|26263> hello
[09:29] <jonathan_x> What would be the best VM for running Linux from within Windows, and without considering VirtualBox?
[09:30] <jonathan_x> And I mean mostly: pleasant integration within Windows for full desktop switching.
[10:16] <hateball> jonathan_x: ask ##windows
[10:17] <jonathan_x> I'm asking here.
[10:18] <hateball> I can see that
[10:18] <hateball> And we don't support questions about what hypervisor to run on a Windows host
[10:29] <jonathan_x> I'm not asking you.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:57] <user|1682> Hello
[12:57] <user|1682> Anybody here?
[12:58] <user|1682> Who can help me with the hold mouse in Kubuntu 16.04? Also known as "Simulate secondary click"
[13:03] <hateball> hmm
[13:03] <hateball> I'm not familiar with that term I am afraid
[13:04] <hateball> user|1682: oh, like hold down the left mousebutton simulates clicking the right mousebutton?
[13:07] <hateball> I guess this is it https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/a11y-right-click.html ?
[13:07] <hateball> No idea how to achieve that using Plasmas accessibility things I'm afraid
[13:09] <user|72686> yeah it is  https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/a11y-right-click.html
[13:09] <user|72686> i need to disable that in kubuntu 16 04
[13:09] <user|72686> but i haven't found that in system settings
[13:09] <hateball> *disable* ? how is it enabled in the first place?
[13:12] <user|72686> When I installed my Kubuntu, i've found that when I click right button and hold its down, automaticly clicking the action
[13:13] <user|72686> I've searched that in Google
[13:13] <user|72686> And found which function in the system settings I need
[13:13] <user|72686> but i haven't found that function in the system settings of kubuntu
[13:16] <user|72686> So what can I do?
[13:16] <user|72686> with the problem
[13:21] <hateball> wait, now you're talking about holding down the right button?
[13:22] <user|72686> look at this function https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/a11y-right-click.html
[13:22] <user|72686> in the article talking about how to ENABLE that function
[13:23] <user|72686> but in Kubuntu 16.04 that HAS ALREADY ENABLED
[13:23] <user|72686> And I need to disable that
[13:49] <o_a> Hello, all. Is there something wrong with the Kubuntu servers? I'm running the update process and it's slow as hell
[13:50] <o_a> The download even stops at times
[13:50] <o_a> Is this happening only at my end or it's also happening for someone else?
[13:51] <hateball> o_a: Try switching mirrors
[13:51] <acheronuk> not heard anything specific today, but it's not unusual for the servers and mirrors to be under heavy load and have a bit of a go slow the few days after release.
[13:51] <D0U91E> I installed 17.10 installed some packages successfully edited my fstab and now my 17.10 boots to cli login where I need to maintenence somethning'
[13:52] <D0U91E> any advice?
[13:55] <D0U91E> Yes D0U91E remove you nfs mount in fstab...
[13:55] <D0U91E> How do you mount samba shares like in 17.04?
[14:33] <edward__> KUBUNTU 17.10 doesn't load pulseaudio.
[14:33] <edward__> any clues?
[14:34] <o_a> acheronuk: Thanks
[14:35] <acheronuk> edward__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#pulseaudio_-_devices_not_showing.2Fpulseaudio_crash
[14:35] <stanley> hi
[14:35] <o_a> How do I switch mirrors mid-update? I'm running the do-release-update graphical tool
[14:35] <stanley> i have a question about cantata.
[14:35] <o_a> I'm afraid to break something
[14:35] <stanley> does cantata can set a socks5 proxy?
[14:36] <stanley> #kubuntu-cn
[14:42] <dougiel> 17.10 does not mount my network shares anymore .04 works flawlessly
[14:44] <user|92456> hey all
[14:44] <user|92456> having a bit of an issue with kubuntu
[14:45] <user|92456> i have it installed in an external drive sled.  can't get my wireless card to be recognized
[15:54] <freakyy> hi. is it normal that the app-starter icon on the lower left is NOT animated? i mean it doesnt give any response wheni hover over it.
[15:55] <terrori> привет
[16:03] <freakyy> is kubuntu going to implement windows-10 like application-panel? where each application has just an icon and not font written?
[16:10] <EvilRoey> hi
[16:10] <EvilRoey> is kubuntu 17.10 with wayland by defualt or with x.org ?
[16:12] <vrmuppalla> xorg, not wayland AFAIK
[16:13] <EvilRoey> ok
[16:13] <EvilRoey> thanks!!
[16:24] <freakyy> EvilRoey: it has Wayland default, but if u have some properity driver installed like nvidia, it will automatically stick to xorg - it did that for me ;D
[16:26] <EvilRoey> freakyy: SEEE that's what I was wondering
[16:26] <EvilRoey> so thanks :)
[16:26] <EvilRoey> because I also have an NVidia card
[16:26] <freakyy> EvilRoey: yea np ;D
[16:27] <freakyy> EvilRoey: wait im talkin about ubuntu
[16:27] <freakyy> i dont know how it is with kubuntu (plasma)
[16:27] <freakyy> wait lemme check if i have any options
[16:30] <freakyy> strangely it has Ubuntu (Wayland) Ubuntu (Xorg) and Plasma but no Plasma (wayland) or Plasma (Xorg) ...
[16:30] <freakyy> its a good question EvilRoey
[16:30] <freakyy> can anyone help us here?
[16:30] <freakyy> :D
[16:32] <freakyy> ok vrmuppalla says kubuntu uses xorg ... that might be the reason why theres only 1 menu entry ... and its not using wayland at all ;D
[16:37] <EvilRoey> ok
[16:37] <EvilRoey> well then! problem solved
[16:37] <EvilRoey> vrmuppalla, freakyy: thanks for your assistance!
[16:37] <freakyy> np EvilRoey
[16:38] <freakyy> but it should work ... the upgrade even with nvidia drivers
[16:38] <EvilRoey> ok
[16:38] <EvilRoey> you mean, in Waylnd?
[16:38] <freakyy> else u dont have nvidia drivers running
[16:38] <freakyy> no, in wayland nvidia drivers dont work
[16:38] <EvilRoey> ok
[16:38] <freakyy> i think
[16:38] <freakyy> (yet)
[16:38] <freakyy> im not sure about it, for me the perfect set up is working ;D
[16:38] <EvilRoey> :)
 Good day everyone!
 can anyone recommend me a good pfd editor for kubuntu?
 apart from libreoffice off course
[20:32] <valorie> okular
[20:32] <valorie> da best!
 @valorie, Hi valorie! i use okular for viewing but i have never been able to edit with it, i want to delete some text in a pdf specifically
[20:35] <valorie> the underlying permissions have to be there to allow that
[20:35] <valorie> but I suppose there are ways to crack in *some* of them
[20:36] <valorie> there is #okular for more in-depth info
 @valorie, will ask there, thank you
[20:37] <valorie> best of luck!
 @DGUERRERO, https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
 not open source, but free version always worked ok for me
 okular can only annotate, not edit as far as I know
 @acheronuk, I'll check it out, thank you
 ram
[20:55] <vrmuppalla> masterpdf https://code-industry.net/masterpdfeditor/  has free and paid ($50) versions.
[20:58] <viewer|57484> hello all.  really digging kubuntu but am having a hard time adjust to the theme engine.  please no flaming but how can i make it more user friendly and dare i say a little more like windows?
[20:58] <viewer|57484> or at least change the taskbar at the bottom
[21:00] <valorie> dunno what windows is like but everything is configurable
[21:00] <valorie> and look at store.kde.org for some theming choices
 @viewer|57484, kubuntu by default is very much windows-alike in apperance, which feature are you looking for?
[21:14] <viewer|57484> DGUERRERO
[21:14] <viewer|57484> thanks for your response.  i just want themes really
[21:15] <viewer|57484> valorie pointed me to the store which i installed but i believe Kubuntu uses kde3 themes?
[21:16] <valorie> !
[21:16] <valorie> no
[21:16] <valorie> we're very up-to-date
[21:16] <sparker781> well i am new to Kubuntu
[21:16] <valorie> and what we release is stock plasma
[21:17] <valorie> no special theming
[21:17] <sparker781> you need to not be so harsh
[21:17] <valorie> !
[21:17] <sparker781> I have no idea what i am doing
[21:17] <valorie> I'm trying to give you information
[21:17] <valorie> welcome to Kubuntu, always lovely to have a new user
[21:17] <sparker781> thank you
 @viewer|57484, i think it's the opposite, in the kde store you will find quite a lot old themes, maybe not compatible anymore
[21:18] <sparker781> im trying its for my work
[21:18] <valorie> @DGUERRERO is right, you need to be choosy
[21:18] <sparker781> that might be an issue.  I clicked on find new themes in the desktop theme in settings and downloaded it but it's not showing up to choose it
[21:18] <valorie> I wish they would figure out a way to shunt the old stuff to the bottom of the lists or something
[21:19] <valorie> tag them by what versions they work with, or something
[21:21] <sparker781> why am i not seeing the theme i downloaded
[21:21] <sparker781> this is so frustrating
 how are you dowloading them? from the web page or directly from the theme settings?
[21:25] <sparker781> i figured it out.  sometimes i dont have patience
[21:25] <sparker781> LOL
[21:31] <sparker781> how can i space out the task bar to look like windows.  sorry but the options i have kind of suck.  LOL
 @sparker781, what do you mean by space? do yow want the icons-only appareance of win7?
[21:54] <sparker781> @IrcsomeBot
[21:54] <sparker781> yes similar to how windows does it if possible
[21:54] <sparker781> the rest im cool with as far as how it operates and what not.  just the look is just meh
[22:04] <valorie> right-click in an empty area and change to icons-only
[22:04] <valorie> you always have choices if you can find the place to make 'em
[22:06] <valorie> if you google for "how to make plasma 5 look like windows" I'm sure you will get lots of hits
[22:25] <marting> Hi. So, I installed kubuntu 17.10 today, and noticed that with netextender (VPN solution of SonicWall), I have a major memory leak (java). How do I debug this? Any suggestions?
[22:26] <marting> Are there any alternatives to netExtender for sonicwall vpn?
[22:27] <marting> it is eating about 8 MB per second
[22:31] <marting> Funny thing: On another machine, running Fedora, and the exact same version of java (openjdk 1.8.0._144, build 18.0_144_b01), and the exact same version of netextender (8.6.801), there is no memory leak. It is stable at ~130MB
[22:32] <clivejo> marting: probably best to ask in Ubuntu channel
[22:32] <marting> clivejo: ok, will go there