| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:44 |
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| lotuspsychje | hows the artful night been? | 02:44 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: \o artful, so far smooth - no real new issues identified :) | 02:47 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om nice2hear | 02:48 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Been on pins, awaiting the hammer to fall . No impact to this time :) | 02:50 |
| lotuspsychje | great | 02:52 |
| lotuspsychje | my artful performs best on xorg | 02:52 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Seen a few incidences where xorg reversion was recommended :( | 02:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx | 02:56 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome bordy | 03:18 |
| lotuspsychje | oerheks: can you paste that link from dax again here | 03:18 |
| lotuspsychje | from yesterday | 03:18 |
| bordy | Evenin folks | 03:18 |
| oerheks | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes/ | 03:19 |
| oerheks | err https://didrocks.fr/ ? | 03:19 |
| lotuspsychje | didrocks yeah | 03:19 |
| lotuspsychje | take a look at that Bashing-om | 03:19 |
| lotuspsychje | the upgrade to artfull page | 03:20 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: look'n . | 03:21 |
| oerheks | and from the releasenotes, to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems#Known_issues.2C_frequent_complaints.2C_fundamental_changes | 03:22 |
| oerheks | gives valuable information too | 03:22 |
| oerheks | s Ctrl+Alt+Shift+R keyboard shortcut to start video recording of the whole desktop , and lands in ~/Videos | 03:22 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 03:24 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: oerheks : I say again ^^ We have a lot to learn :D | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah lil complicated on wayland.. | 03:52 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Developers are throwing a lot of changes at us - fast ! systemd, netwworking, wayland ( GUI graphics ), logging ......... ouch ! | 04:02 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 04:08 |
| Guy1524 | hey guys, theoretically, would it be possible to upgrade an Ubuntu 4.10 installation to 17.10, and if so, how would it differ from a fresh install | 04:54 |
| lotuspsychje | !eolupgrade | 04:54 |
| ubot5 | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 04:54 |
| lotuspsychje | Guy1524: fresh install is very recommended | 04:55 |
| Guy1524 | I don't actually have 4.10 installed, I am just curious, because it would be interesting | 04:55 |
| lotuspsychje | Guy1524: why is an eol version interesting? | 04:56 |
| Guy1524 | just to see how robust the upgrade system is in Ubuntu | 04:57 |
| lotuspsychje | Guy1524: check the eolupgrade link | 04:58 |
| Guy1524 | k | 04:58 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:01 |
| === jalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader | 06:11 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje | 06:12 |
| lordievader | How are you today? | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | great here | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | almost having breakfast | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ | 06:15 |
| lotuspsychje | its artful news all over | 06:15 |
| lordievader | I'm sure it is. | 06:18 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: IRT Cosec__ ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' there is a uninstall script . | 06:34 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 06:45 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest77018 | ||
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:49 |
| oerheks | Happy 13th Birthday, Ubuntu! | 13:12 |
| oerheks | my lucky number | 13:13 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj, everyone. | 13:14 |
| oerheks | get 10% off XPS 13 developer edition w/the code "SAVE10XPS" til 7amCT 10/26 | 13:15 |
| pauljw | that's nice, but they're still too expensive for me. | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hi pauljw | 13:31 |
| pauljw | :) | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | already have a decent laptop, and 13" screen for that kind of money is too expensive, despite the portability factor | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | and you're still paying for useless W10 on top | 13:34 |
| * BluesKaj is in a crirtical mood this morning ...pissed off at a few things | 13:35 | |
| BluesKaj | BBl | 13:38 |
| pauljw | :( | 13:43 |
| daftykins | i love my XPS 13 (: | 15:48 |
| nicomachus | too small for me. | 15:53 |
| nicomachus | screens should be 15+ | 15:53 |
| nicomachus | no smaller | 15:53 |
| daftykins | i prefer portability above all else | 15:54 |
| daftykins | well, battery life is the true priority | 15:54 |
| nicomachus | 15 inch screen is portable. | 16:16 |
| daftykins | not to me as a cyclist | 16:17 |
| oerheks | 4 inch and full hd .. wait | 17:19 |
| nicomachus | This guy basalt is having some issues with the ath10k driver if anyone wants to dive into kernel stuff. | 17:57 |
| daftykins | ;D | 18:10 |
| daftykins | 'get a new one' | 18:10 |
| daftykins | (kernel) | 18:11 |
| TJ- | We've got a major issue for Nvidia users coming up as soon as Ubuntu adopts v4.14 kernel. A key kernel symbol in the memory-manager has been made GPL-only, and it breaks the nvidia (and other out-of-tree non-GPL module) builds entirely | 18:15 |
| nicomachus | oh great | 18:17 |
| TJ- | In this current v4.14 development round AMD introduced Secure Memory Encryption facilities and enabled it by default to support their new CPU facilities. Because the memory-management functions are core to almost all drivers it's caused a new GPL-only symbol, sme_me_mask, to be imported into almost all modules. As a result, nvidia drivers fail to modpost when being linked | 18:18 |
| TJ- | Got a response from the kernel's MM sub-system maintainer today after reporting this last weekend with the RC2 build. They won't change it (I don't blame them). However, unless the SME functions are disabled entirely - which means AMD devices with SME cannot make use of it - the generic Ubuntu kernels will fail with proprietary drivers | 18:19 |
| nicomachus | So is this just an Ubuntu issue or going to be linux-wide? | 18:20 |
| TJ- | Linux wide if kernels are built with SME enabled to support AMD devices. For people/distros that build CPU-specific kernels it won't be an issue, but for distros like Debian and Ubuntu RedHat etc., it'll be an issue because we build a single kernel that is capable of supporting all devices | 18:21 |
| TJ- | The CONFIG enables it by default in mainline too, so anyone trying mainline kernels (as I do and discovered it) will hit this | 18:22 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 20:29 |
| nicomachus | o/ | 20:30 |
| daftykins | wb o/ | 20:30 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: \o | 20:31 |
| pauljw | :) | 20:33 |
| nicomachus | !recs | 20:34 |
| nacc | what in the actual f | 22:38 |
| nacc | sorry for the language | 22:38 |
| nacc | but serious, connorkmc must be trolling right? | 22:39 |
| pauljw | seems like it to me, nacc | 22:40 |
| * nacc should know better, but I get so much madder at people wasting my time on a Friday | 22:40 | |
| nacc | on a happier note, git-ubuntu 0.4 released, and a test snap branch created that has the ability to take an upstream fix, cherry-pick it and make a quilt patch out of it for testing (incl. building a .deb) | 22:41 |
| pauljw | :) | 22:41 |
| pauljw | that's pretty nice | 22:42 |
| nacc | i'm sure it will break for some cases, but it should help a lot of people learn to contribute | 22:43 |
| nacc | and eventually get us to a git-only workflow | 22:43 |
| nacc | hopefully we'll start importing all packages in the next month or so | 22:43 |
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