[00:44] <Thunder_Tw> are the evenings usually this quiet here?
[00:44] <dax> yep
[00:45] <Bashing-om> sometimes even quieter :)
[00:45] <dax> freenode has a very notable day/night cycle in user count. #ubuntu does too.
[00:46] <daftykins> legends from years gone by speak of weekends making people go to some holy place known simply as... 'out'
[00:47] <Thunder_Tw> sounds like stone age times xD
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> hey sirru5h
[06:39] <sirru5h> Hey there lotuspsychje how are ya doing?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> welcome to hardcore volunteer channel
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> great here tnx, and you?
[06:39] <sirru5h> I'm alright hanging in there
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> sirru5h: tested artful?
[06:40] <sirru5h> ?
[06:40] <sirru5h> oh aardvark
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:41] <sirru5h> Nah not yet I'll wait until it is stable
[06:41] <sirru5h> How about yourself?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> sirru5h: yeah im helping bug out with a box
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> as its an important release
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> normally im sticking to LTS
[06:43] <sirru5h> Nice, yeah I got ubuntu 17.04 on both my machines now
[06:43] <sirru5h> Windows 8.1 died pretty bad oh well
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:44] <sirru5h> I previously had ubuntu just on my netbook but now it is on my new to me machine
[06:44] <sirru5h> It was just a bad day when windows went then I thought I had it and my dog she is very skittish and she jumped onto the coffee table spilling juice on my machine which I just kinda recovered
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[06:45] <sirru5h> so well I use linux pretty much everyday anyways so installed ubuntu on here
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> same here, daily driver
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> on all boxes
[06:46] <sirru5h> You know I remember back in what 2004 or so I had at that time used linux for 5 years mainly Slackware and RH
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> i tested linux with RH on gnome aswell
[06:47] <sirru5h> Anyhow yeah I was taking a linux+ course and used ubuntu like 4.05
[06:47] <sirru5h> something odd balled
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !4.05
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !5.04
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> this one?
[06:47] <sirru5h> 4.10
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !4.10
[06:48] <sirru5h> I used hedgehog as well
[06:48] <sirru5h> Yes I am an old linux user
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> same here
[06:49] <sirru5h> It's come a LONG way though
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu has transformed nicely surely
[06:49] <sirru5h> It feels good to see that linux now is much more friendly and is down right easy to use
[06:49] <sirru5h> Ubuntu actually I credit them with doing that
[06:50] <sirru5h> You remember that if you had linux and a gui pretty much you were a noob/lame
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah the easyness shows the reward worldwide
[06:50] <sirru5h> Yeah even up to 2004 linux sometimes was daunting
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> lol i never felt lame, but yes i remember
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> for me linux was also an eyecandy thing from the start
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> looking up users screenshots
[06:51] <sirru5h> lol yeah I didn't get it but back then a nix machine was just terminal and keyboard
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> sirru5h: whats your birth year?
[06:51] <sirru5h> oh geez
[06:52]  * sirru5h waves his cane 
[06:52] <sirru5h> 1980
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> dont worry it might lay not tto far from mine
[06:52] <sirru5h> I ain't that old
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> 77 here
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> gonna bbl on breakfast mate, ttyl ok sirru5h
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> set this chan to favs as you like
[06:53] <sirru5h> Cool stuff I like to come by here and there
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> youl meet some interesting ppl here
[07:00] <ducasse> morning all
[07:00] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> out for shopping bbl
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:04] <Thunder_Tw> oi
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[13:32] <immu> hello lotuspsychje
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> hey immu
[13:33] <immu> whats up
[13:39] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: how was the shopping? :)
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> good ducasse tnx
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> hows your day ducasse
[13:46] <ducasse> soon heading out to shop groceries, most of the other stuff i had to do is done now
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: how far is the shop from your house?
[13:49] <ducasse> not sure, maybe 250m? not far, anyway, just a couple of minutes walk.
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> oh cool
[13:51] <oerheks> i would take the train
[13:51] <oerheks> :-Dhey guys
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks
[13:52] <ducasse> \o oerheks
[13:53] <ducasse> oerheks: you could start taxi'ing people to the shop on your bike, just put some pillows in the box
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:56] <oerheks> sure, payment in pizza
[13:57] <oerheks> i thought you were living in the woods, with bears and kangaroos
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:03] <ducasse> just close to them, but there are two (for some reason) shops nearby. if i want anything other than groceries i need to go into the city centre, though.
[14:05] <ducasse> and no bears, and the kangaroos are very shy.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> wait, kangoos in norway?
[14:06] <ducasse> not really, no, i thought that was obvious :)
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> Thunder_Tw: welcome
[14:07] <Thunder_Tw> lotuspsychje: thanks
[14:18] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: aren't desktop icons a no-no on gnome?
[14:18] <Thunder_Tw> i have ubuntu-mate witch is issentialy gnome2 and i have desctop icons
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> didnt test
[14:19] <ducasse> i meant gnome3
[14:19] <Thunder_Tw> sounds like more of the same thing
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> its possible they created activities button to avoid the desktop mess
[14:20] <ducasse> that's what i was thinking, desktop icons sounds like a typical things the devs would decide people don't want :)
[14:20] <TJ-> I always thought having files/launchers on the desktop a silly way to do things - since you've got to minimze all windows to get to it
[14:21] <TJ-> it was a metaphore that Windows popularised
[14:21] <TJ-> Started with Windows 95 I think; before that there was just a File Manager
[14:22] <Thunder_Tw> That's why I use it for the stuff i likely start on a fresh desktop
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> i always liked a dock at bottom
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> mac style
[14:24] <TJ-> When you're on multi monitor setups it helps that you can position the menu/dock/tasbar whereever you want to, rather than having it prescribed, else it can be in-between 2 displays rather than above or below.
[14:25] <TJ-> That was something I disliked immensely with Unity when it came out, and a major reason I stopped using it entirely
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah you always said the multiple monitors was one of your dislikes
[14:26] <TJ-> Gnome's nearly as bad.
[14:26] <Thunder_Tw> Mate ftw
[14:27] <TJ-> when dev's prescribe rather than providing flexibility I know there's something to avoid
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: changes say its got 4k,multi monitor improvements?
[14:27] <Thunder_Tw> i have a multimonitor setup and i can place my menu-panels annywhere i want
[14:27] <TJ-> Gnome devs once told me - when I complained about multi-monitor support - "we don't test it on that config, it's not supported"
[14:27] <TJ-> How can a GUI dev NOT have multi-monitor setup to work and test on!?
[14:27] <ducasse> i3 has the best multi-monitor handling i've seen - jmo, of course
[14:28] <TJ-> Thunder_Tw: I'm running 6 monitors so it gets a bit trying at times
[14:28] <Thunder_Tw> cool
[14:28] <Thunder_Tw> losing the mouse from time to time no?
[14:30] <TJ-> No, don't have that problem :)
[14:32] <Thunder_Tw> then we need more pixels!
[14:33] <TJ-> I mostly work in terminals, and even then I use tmux and regularly have 10 windows per session going. Easy to get lost without needing a mouse
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> how many terminals can fit on 6 screens lol
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl dinnertime :p
[16:07] <brunch> dinner at such time!
[16:11] <ducasse> ...and without inviting us!
[16:11] <TJ-> My tummy is eating me from the inside, out
[16:15] <ducasse> we should get free pizza ;)
[16:16] <immu> some one is hungry now ducasse
[16:17]  * oerheks opens the oven to get the smoke of the fried chicken out
[16:17] <oerheks> ..now where is the butter
[16:18] <TJ-> I think I'll be making pizza
[16:18] <oerheks> yes TJ-, vegetables are good for you
[16:19] <TJ-> I usually make 8 at a time, freeze 7
[16:19] <oerheks> good, we will be there soon
[16:20] <TJ-> LOL *hides* the dough
[16:20] <TJ-> I freeze the bases; I make each pizza fresh
[16:26] <oerheks> sometimes i grab a fresh kit, dough and the base paste
[16:27] <oerheks> more expensive than ordering out, but i like the smell in my house
[16:27] <TJ-> yeah, there's something about making them fresh that beats any shop-made
[16:28] <ducasse> yuck, electron terminal. fantastic idea.
[16:29] <oerheks> it is part of digestion, i guess, the smell prepares the stomach for food
[16:29] <oerheks> grinn ducasse
[16:31] <TJ-> yes, the smell is the thing. also, handling the ingredients
[16:32] <oerheks> .. and the dishes afterwards, standing up after eating is good too
[16:33] <oerheks> grandma told me
[16:33] <ducasse> making food is therapeutic stuff, frozen food can't quite compete.
[16:34] <TJ-> also making it myself I pile on lots of ingredients which shops don't do
[16:35] <oerheks> i care for less salt
[16:37] <TJ-> it's like with making fresh salads too. I managed 20 different ingredients on the plate over summer
[18:26] <oerheks> My idea of support is pathetic. I confess ..
[18:27] <oerheks> And i should change my job.
[18:47] <Thunder_Tw> oerheks:  true, I would like to complain to your manager about you getting payed too much for the pathetic support :p j/k
[18:49]  * ducasse puts up another gold star for oerheks on the board
[18:50] <oerheks> my karma is still 0 on launchpad
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Long dry spell breaking - We getting rain here - Welcome to Saturday support :)
[20:53] <dax> new factoid, !krack
[20:55] <EriC^^> !krack
[20:56] <dax> probably should have made it a week ago, but oh well