[00:44] are the evenings usually this quiet here? [00:44] yep [00:45] sometimes even quieter :) [00:45] freenode has a very notable day/night cycle in user count. #ubuntu does too. [00:46] legends from years gone by speak of weekends making people go to some holy place known simply as... 'out' [00:47] sounds like stone age times xD [06:31] good morning to all [06:38] hey sirru5h [06:39] Hey there lotuspsychje how are ya doing? [06:39] welcome to hardcore volunteer channel [06:39] great here tnx, and you? [06:39] I'm alright hanging in there [06:39] sirru5h: tested artful? [06:40] ? [06:40] oh aardvark [06:40] yeah [06:41] Nah not yet I'll wait until it is stable [06:41] How about yourself? [06:41] sirru5h: yeah im helping bug out with a box [06:41] as its an important release [06:41] normally im sticking to LTS [06:43] Nice, yeah I got ubuntu 17.04 on both my machines now [06:43] Windows 8.1 died pretty bad oh well [06:43] lol [06:44] I previously had ubuntu just on my netbook but now it is on my new to me machine [06:44] It was just a bad day when windows went then I thought I had it and my dog she is very skittish and she jumped onto the coffee table spilling juice on my machine which I just kinda recovered [06:45] ouch [06:45] so well I use linux pretty much everyday anyways so installed ubuntu on here [06:46] same here, daily driver [06:46] on all boxes [06:46] You know I remember back in what 2004 or so I had at that time used linux for 5 years mainly Slackware and RH [06:46] i tested linux with RH on gnome aswell [06:47] Anyhow yeah I was taking a linux+ course and used ubuntu like 4.05 [06:47] something odd balled [06:47] cool [06:47] !4.05 [06:47] !5.04 [06:47] Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details. [06:47] this one? [06:47] 4.10 [06:48] !4.10 [06:48] Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) was the first release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30, 2006. See !eol for more details. [06:48] I used hedgehog as well [06:48] Yes I am an old linux user [06:48] same here [06:49] It's come a LONG way though [06:49] ubuntu has transformed nicely surely [06:49] It feels good to see that linux now is much more friendly and is down right easy to use [06:49] Ubuntu actually I credit them with doing that [06:50] You remember that if you had linux and a gui pretty much you were a noob/lame [06:50] yeah the easyness shows the reward worldwide [06:50] Yeah even up to 2004 linux sometimes was daunting [06:50] lol i never felt lame, but yes i remember [06:51] for me linux was also an eyecandy thing from the start [06:51] looking up users screenshots [06:51] lol yeah I didn't get it but back then a nix machine was just terminal and keyboard [06:51] yeah [06:51] sirru5h: whats your birth year? [06:51] oh geez [06:52] * sirru5h waves his cane [06:52] 1980 [06:52] dont worry it might lay not tto far from mine [06:52] I ain't that old [06:52] 77 here [06:53] gonna bbl on breakfast mate, ttyl ok sirru5h [06:53] set this chan to favs as you like [06:53] Cool stuff I like to come by here and there [06:53] youl meet some interesting ppl here [07:00] morning all [07:00] hi lotuspsychje [07:36] hey ducasse [07:36] out for shopping bbl [11:58] Hiyas all [12:04] oi [13:26] good afternoon to all [13:32] hello lotuspsychje [13:33] hey immu [13:33] whats up [13:39] lotuspsychje: how was the shopping? :) [13:43] good ducasse tnx [13:43] hows your day ducasse [13:46] soon heading out to shop groceries, most of the other stuff i had to do is done now [13:47] ducasse: how far is the shop from your house? [13:49] not sure, maybe 250m? not far, anyway, just a couple of minutes walk. [13:51] oh cool [13:51] i would take the train [13:51] :-Dhey guys [13:51] hey oerheks [13:52] \o oerheks [13:53] oerheks: you could start taxi'ing people to the shop on your bike, just put some pillows in the box [13:54] lol [13:56] sure, payment in pizza [13:57] i thought you were living in the woods, with bears and kangaroos [14:01] lol [14:03] just close to them, but there are two (for some reason) shops nearby. if i want anything other than groceries i need to go into the city centre, though. [14:05] and no bears, and the kangaroos are very shy. [14:06] wait, kangoos in norway? [14:06] not really, no, i thought that was obvious :) [14:07] Thunder_Tw: welcome [14:07] lotuspsychje: thanks [14:18] lotuspsychje: aren't desktop icons a no-no on gnome? [14:18] i have ubuntu-mate witch is issentialy gnome2 and i have desctop icons [14:18] didnt test [14:19] i meant gnome3 [14:19] sounds like more of the same thing [14:20] its possible they created activities button to avoid the desktop mess [14:20] that's what i was thinking, desktop icons sounds like a typical things the devs would decide people don't want :) [14:20] I always thought having files/launchers on the desktop a silly way to do things - since you've got to minimze all windows to get to it [14:21] it was a metaphore that Windows popularised [14:21] Started with Windows 95 I think; before that there was just a File Manager [14:22] That's why I use it for the stuff i likely start on a fresh desktop [14:22] i always liked a dock at bottom [14:22] mac style [14:24] When you're on multi monitor setups it helps that you can position the menu/dock/tasbar whereever you want to, rather than having it prescribed, else it can be in-between 2 displays rather than above or below. [14:25] That was something I disliked immensely with Unity when it came out, and a major reason I stopped using it entirely [14:26] yeah you always said the multiple monitors was one of your dislikes [14:26] Gnome's nearly as bad. [14:26] Mate ftw [14:27] when dev's prescribe rather than providing flexibility I know there's something to avoid [14:27] TJ-: changes say its got 4k,multi monitor improvements? [14:27] i have a multimonitor setup and i can place my menu-panels annywhere i want [14:27] Gnome devs once told me - when I complained about multi-monitor support - "we don't test it on that config, it's not supported" [14:27] How can a GUI dev NOT have multi-monitor setup to work and test on!? [14:27] i3 has the best multi-monitor handling i've seen - jmo, of course [14:28] Thunder_Tw: I'm running 6 monitors so it gets a bit trying at times [14:28] cool [14:28] losing the mouse from time to time no? [14:30] No, don't have that problem :) [14:32] then we need more pixels! [14:33] I mostly work in terminals, and even then I use tmux and regularly have 10 windows per session going. Easy to get lost without needing a mouse [14:34] how many terminals can fit on 6 screens lol [15:38] bbl dinnertime :p [16:07] dinner at such time! [16:11] ...and without inviting us! [16:11] My tummy is eating me from the inside, out [16:15] we should get free pizza ;) [16:16] some one is hungry now ducasse [16:17] * oerheks opens the oven to get the smoke of the fried chicken out [16:17] ..now where is the butter [16:18] I think I'll be making pizza [16:18] yes TJ-, vegetables are good for you [16:19] I usually make 8 at a time, freeze 7 [16:19] good, we will be there soon [16:20] LOL *hides* the dough [16:20] I freeze the bases; I make each pizza fresh [16:26] sometimes i grab a fresh kit, dough and the base paste [16:27] more expensive than ordering out, but i like the smell in my house [16:27] yeah, there's something about making them fresh that beats any shop-made [16:28] yuck, electron terminal. fantastic idea. [16:29] it is part of digestion, i guess, the smell prepares the stomach for food [16:29] grinn ducasse [16:31] yes, the smell is the thing. also, handling the ingredients [16:32] .. and the dishes afterwards, standing up after eating is good too [16:33] grandma told me [16:33] making food is therapeutic stuff, frozen food can't quite compete. [16:34] also making it myself I pile on lots of ingredients which shops don't do [16:35] i care for less salt [16:37] it's like with making fresh salads too. I managed 20 different ingredients on the plate over summer [18:26] My idea of support is pathetic. I confess .. [18:27] And i should change my job. [18:47] oerheks: true, I would like to complain to your manager about you getting payed too much for the pathetic support :p j/k [18:49] * ducasse puts up another gold star for oerheks on the board [18:50] my karma is still 0 on launchpad === JanC is now known as Guest24634 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [20:43] Long dry spell breaking - We getting rain here - Welcome to Saturday support :) [20:53] new factoid, !krack [20:55] !krack [20:55] KRACK is a group of attacks against the wireless WPA2 protocol and related software. Ubuntu clients are protected against it if they are updated; see https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3455-1/ for details. Networking equipment needs updating if using 802.11r, repeater mode, or other AP-as-client configurations, which most are not. See https://www.krackattacks.com/ for technical details. [20:56] probably should have made it a week ago, but oh well