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keithzgHuh, linux-headers-4.4.0-97 is taking *forever* to unpack on one of my server VMs.02:15
sarnoldit's nearly 17k files02:17
sarnoldwhat kind of iops do you have on that system?02:17
keithzgNot terribly great, since it's a VM running on an HDD. I'm just weirded out because other VMs on the same host didn't take nearly as long!02:18
sarnoldhrm02:18
keithzgBut yeah, fair enough, if any package is going to spend a long time unpacking this'd be the one, heh.02:19
sarnoldcheck iostat -dmx1 or vmstat 1 or something similar to see if there's something doing a steady stream of sync writes to disk or similar?02:19
sarnoldare there ioerror sin dmesg on host or guest?02:19
sarnoldis the filesystem stored on an AF drive but with 512B sectors?02:20
keithzgStorage is qcow2, bus is virtio. Nothing showing up in dmesg. I must admit I don't know how to read vmstat, but iostat doesn't look *too* bad02:23
keithzg(on the host, guest doesn't have iostat installed and I can't do so right now, hah)02:24
stokachustgraber: had a user see this with snap lxd stable http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782412/02:25
stokachustgraber: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782424/02:25
stgraberstokachu: hmm, out of disk space maybe? that'd explain both of those02:26
stokachubdx: ^02:27
bdxI was running in a vm, its likely that could have been the issue ... I believe it had plenty of space though02:28
stokachuim guessing the vm isn't up any longer?02:30
bdxits not, I appologize02:32
bdxi have some scroll back though from when I was logged into it02:32
keithzgsarnold: Checking logical_block_size and physical_block_size in /sys/class/block/sda/queue/ (and sdb) on the host seems to confirm that they're old non-AF drives and formatted in the according 512B sectors. Hmm. I'm reminded by this that the drive in question is in fact a pair, using hardware RAID. Tempted to just blame it on that somehow :P02:32
bdxso, I removed system level lxd, and I still see it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25782525/02:33
sarnoldkeithzg: does the hardware controller have error logs available anywhere?02:33
sarnoldkeithzg: smart data?02:33
bdxI just have a feeling it was a cruft thing somehow, the system had lxd reconfigured quite a few times in and outside of the snap02:33
keithzgsarnold: This is very cheap commodity hardware, so I'd be surprised if the controller actually had accessible logs! For what it's worth smartcl hasn't logged any errors for either drive.02:35
keithzg(err, I should say, smartctl doesn't report that any smart errors have been logged on either drive)02:36
sarnoldkeithzg: hrm, somehow this is a bit unsatisfying :) it feels like it ought to be possible to nail down what's going on.02:36
sarnoldI don't remember spinning metal drives a being -that- slow, somehow we survived back in the day :)02:37
keithzghehe02:37
keithzgsarnold: No kidding! I'm almost tempted to just cancel the operation, install iostat, and start it up again :P02:37
sarnoldkeithzg: wait the damn thing is still going??02:38
keithzgsarnold: Haha actually inbetween me saying that and you replying, it finally got past that package!02:38
sarnoldhehe02:38
sarnold19:15:09 to 19:37:44. 12.5 files per second. that sounds slow.02:40
sarnoldand presumably you only complained on irc after it'd been going on for a little while already.02:40
keithzgYeah, I checked on it a few times and eventually went "seriously, *still*?" and only then piped up here02:41
keithzgClearly I'm going to have to keep a watchful eye on this guest and its host . . .02:42
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FManhi13:52
drabhi, is it still a pipedream to have a simple solution to monitoring what's going on on the network?15:49
drabway back doing it "right" meant to set up cflow/netflow and it was a pita just to get through the standards15:49
drabany chance it got easier?15:50
drabthe alternative used to be cacti, but that only really gives you a sense of traffic per port, not really the type of traffic like netflow does (well at least you get ip + port tuples on each switch port)15:51
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orogorhi19:37
orogoranyone would know why sudo wouldn t work after upgrade to 17.10 ?19:37
orogorit just hang there after typing a good password19:38
gunixiface bond0.10 inet manual21:20
gunixwhat does .10 mean?21:20
gunixoh, vlan tag21:21
Bluekingapt autoremove doesn't clean latest  and need to check what version ubuntu are currently running before clean/remove stuff in /boot21:56

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