 @samzn, Fuckyeah Conversations
 https://conversations.im/
 nah, just a whatsapp wrapper
 Aww k
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 Hmmm, time to check there site see i
 *to see if the OP5 is supported yet
 Nope
 But you can help
 Oh? How so?
 Check out on @halium :)
 @Akira_rulezZ, Badblocks could help?
 @rchs0, I've done with Rufus 😬
 Is N5 UBports currently based on Cyanogenmod 12.1 or what?
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aFrr89gk/file_1368
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Q3Uu1wvj/file_1369
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 @Giampy_DAntonio, welcome
 @vanyasem, thanks
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 @anthony_keids, Welcome Anthony
 Thank you!
 I'd like to develop ubt for Moto G5
 Strangely, I think there is some experimentation with that. Each phone needs its own port and that is a lot of work, so only a few are supported at the monent
 Expect months of trial and error
 I see.
 There is a project called Halium which will overlay the Android base and should make ports much easier
 @anthony_keids, Ask @UniversalSuperBox about the G5. I think he has been looking at it
 @Stereofont, I was looking into it
 @Stereofont, I'm in for that.
 @anthony_keids, Great. Much better if there are others doing the same thing so that you can compare notes
 Oh. Guess I can gather some people for that.
[08:45] <tgBot> <Ander Mutuberria> Would be great to be available for the huawei p8lite 2017 😉😉
 Ubuntu if present on more and more devices would be amazing.
 The last I had checked halium was only at 5.1 lollipop. Today one of my friends said that halium had updated for 7.1. This just shot my hopes up!
 @Ander Mutuberria, That is much less likely though
 The project is to move UT to 16.04 and backport from newer kernels. That will feed into the Halium upgrade
[08:49] <tgBot> <Ander Mutuberria> @Stereofont, Why??
 @Ander Mutuberria, I have heard of some work with the Moto. Proprietary hardware and drivers for the Huawei may be a much bigger challenge
 @samzn, wow, that's great! +1
[08:52] <tgBot> <Ander Mutuberria> Okeyy thanks
 Major issue is the eol kernel used by Android. I don't know why it's still stuck with 3.x kernel.
 @tylnesh, We cannot solve this quickly, the content-hub was designed like this ;)
 Fwd from mariogrip: Got some progress on xenial
 Fwd from mariogrip: been working day and night :P
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/QxhkAbKg/file_1373.jpg
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/UnqwLErs/file_1374.jpg
 good job @mariogrip ❕❕❕
 yay! :D good job Mario :D
 @mariogrip, Nice! Which device is it??
 @Jujuyeh, htc 10
 :O woah, codenamed?
 @Jujuyeh, you mean HTC 10 codename?
 yeah
 it's PME (Perfume)
 https://github.com/Halium/docs/blob/master/supplementary/devices/pme.md
 😆
 @vanyasem, check for more info
 Who names the devices? 😆
 marketing
 So a vegan friend of mine has *bacon* in his pocket because of marketing
 yeah
 @mariogrip does '''snap install micro —classic''' work? in terminal
 it's a cli text editor
 @popescu_sorin, let me try
 The first time I have seen the Ubuntu Touch ui boot on 16.04! Great. Congratulations @mariogrip . Is this real or only a concept as notifications for uMatrks was .
 @popescu_sorin, no, didn't work, will digg into that later
 probably because it;s —classic
 np :D
 thanks
 get some sleap!
 @bastos777, it's real, just got busy with xenial so didn't finish it 100%, sorry about that
 will get back to that asap
 @popescu_sorin, I should :P
 @popescu_sorin, https://soundcloud.com/ubports/i-never-sleep
 :)))
 hehe
 Amazon work!! :) thank you
[11:03] <tgBot> <Ander Mutuberria> Can anyone send a video of how fluid is ubuntu?
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 When can we test xenial on hammerhead?
 @nfsprodriver, when ota-push finishes yes
 @mariogrip That is with vivid Mir and Unity8 or alreary with xenial ones?
 @TronFourtyTwo, vivid mir and unity8
 I see, new devices are beeing addedto 16.04 channel!
 The changes on github are brutal
 @nfsprodriver, :)
 @nfsprodriver, but it's untested on any of those devices, so it's a "guess if it works" thing
 https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/16.04/devel/
 bacon hammerhead and fp2?
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 can anyone test FP2 on 16.04 so i don't have to cry? :D
 hammerhead is nexus 5, what is bacon?
 oh oneplus
 im testing n5 now
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/SjsPN9tV/file_1375
 @nfsprodriver, Sorry for changin the topic but. Do you managed to fix the codec thingy for videos in he N5? ( I am using your webapp workaround)
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/60hmTRw0/file_1377.jpg
 @mariogrip, works on n5
 (Sticker, 407x512) https://irc.ubports.com/khmljlDj/file_1378
 YAY!
 @mariogrip, That means we are one step closer to get a working Anbox, aren't we? :P
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[11:54] <tgBot> TheImpulson was added by: TheImpulson
[11:54] <tgBot> Zephoro was added by: Zephoro
 Oh this group 😆
 Hello Everyone!
 Hi!
 So 16.04 launched?
 @TheImpulson, No
 @TheImpulson, yep, in the devel channel. only for testing, no daily use
 @UniversalSuperBox, well XD
 @malditobastardo, No, sorry. It didn't work.
 I need to get Halium first before working on Ubuntu. Right?
 @mariogrip, Nice! I'll test it...
 @TheImpulson, No, everything is included. Halium is invisible to the user.
 Is it possible to keep the data by running ubuntu-device-flash in adb mode?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Can I have documentation on how to build it for my device?
 @TheImpulson, docs.Halium.org
 @UniversalSuperBox, I am sorry! I meant how to build Ubuntu.
 @nfsprodriver, From 15.04 to 16.04? That's a solid maybe.
 :P
 Welcome to this group @Ajith20 , @TheImpulson and @Zephoro
 Thank You!
 Ty
 @nfsprodriver, not tried at all, so noneone known
 I'll try so you will know ;)
 Backing up my home folder now...
 It was possible at time of Canonical Ubuntu, but without WLAN, the way back was a wipe.
 Which qt version is in the image? 5.6 or 5.9?
 Which one are you looking at?
 I just woke up
 @UniversalSuperBox, You missed the Hype 😆
 But I did not miss the sleep
 haha
 @nfsprodriver, 5.6, will try with 5.9 when after i get some sleep :P
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 @mariogrip, We all should force mariogrip to sleep now.. everyone ignore mariogrip totally
 I'll be writing instructions for getting 16.04 onto your Halium devices today.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Great! I just got mine semi-working. Can't wait for it
 @UniversalSuperBox, Awesome! Really appreciate that!
 @vanyasem, You mean Semkin-working lol
 Hopefully rootstock cooperates.
 @Flohack, that's a nice one ;)
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 @UniversalSuperBox, That's Great!
 @bhushanshah, I will go now :P
 @mariogrip, good night Marius. we all love you
 gn, love you guys too ☺️
[12:19] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @mariogrip thanks. xenial seems to boot on mu opo
[12:19] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> impressive. really
[12:20] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> congrats to the team
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, post pics plz
[12:23] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> that will be hard. i'll try
[12:27] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> (Photo, 1940x1332) https://irc.ubports.com/uO0Kl5BY/file_1380.jpg
 YAY
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Great!
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, That's a lot of possibilities! :P
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Amazing!
 fp2 anyone? :D
[12:33] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Hot to get sudo in terminal?
[12:34] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I have some questions. Any experts here? I installed it fresh but somehow it knew my wifi password. Where does it read it from?
[12:35] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> You can choose 'wipe' on installation
[12:35] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> eh... sudo works doen't it?
[12:35] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Not for me
[12:35] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I have not used any installer so no 'wipe'. what is it supposed to wipe?
[12:36] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Idk then, i just got it to work yesterday :p
[12:38] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Got it... needed to set a pw in secueity options. Is my homepath encrytpted?
 No. No disk encryption is currently used.
 @nfsprodriver, Yep, that works!
[12:52] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Truecrypt will work?
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[12:57] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Or what way i can encrypt my system?
 If anyone wants to install libertine on xenial: DON'T!!!
 @nfsprodriver, Permanently damages kittens?
 kittens?
 🐱
 But well... Curious on what happens when one installs libertine
 It overwrites about 50 packages (e.g. ubuntu-app-launch), all apps are disappearing from the UI and you can't start anyone.
 Do you know how to switch to dev mode via terminal?
 @nfsprodriver, Whelp, we don't have libertine built yet.
 So it went to the Canonical overlay PPA and installed everything there... which doesn't work
 Adds to Marius' to-do list :P
 Where should we discuss about the new bugs of xenial? We shouldn't bomb the group. Github?
 Phew: system-image-cli repaired it! 😅
[13:22] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> the browser doesn't seem to load images. can this be set somewhere?
[13:27] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> mmm. after reboot display starts but turns dark, nothing happens. adb access works. what should I check?
 Either wait or restart again.
 The images just came out. Don't expect everything to work. ;)
 Very experimental.
[13:29] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> no. just curious. am really amazed it is running so well already.
[13:29] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> aha indeed. just wait. suddenly unity starts
 A little bit of magic, a little bit of luck, and very little sleep.
 Some core apps like filemanager (the new one), clock and gallery don't work yet.
 And some scopes..., but the rest works really cool!
[13:35] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> thanks and bye
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/vZBXnr0d/file_1381.deb
 This is needed to run the filemanager app.
[14:13] <mimecar> good evening
 Morning!
 is the IRC connected with telegram?
 Ye
 😆, it's nice
 I connected to #ubuntu-touch and appear on #ubports
 Yeah, that one was merged too
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/YJi4AibM/file_1383.png
 Fwd from nfsprodriver: Gallery app seems to have a problem with the libexiv2 version (13 -> 14). We may rebuild it for xenial. Clock app crashes on location detection. Clocktime is not saved.
 ubuntu gnome shell? No thank you!
 @Marco, Ubuntu Mate dude.. with Mutiny 😜
[15:01] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Guys youre not encrypt your devices?
 @Marty McFly, not at the moment
[15:06] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Uff really? I thought this is a privacy os?
 you've missed the point
 read more here: https://ubports.com/page/website.aboutus
 When will be possible to have a working version of Yunit on 17.10?
 @Marty McFly, Sure, but it's also way newer so doesn't have every single feature yet
 Features take work
[15:17] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> And what when i install truecrypt? Anybody tried? I dont realky understand how a smarphone is booting...
[15:18] <tgBot> akshat28 was added by: akshat28
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Which phone is this?
 That's awesome :D
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/PRWM570Y/file_1385.jpg
 Installing....update.. dev version 😎
 How to port
 @jakko, Cool
 😎
 @akshat28, .
 @akshat28, @UniversalSuperBox
 @nfsprodriver, Wow! :)
 Oops, I didn't want it to be a reply :P
 @nfsprodriver, Ready to start 👨‍🔧
 Anyway, wow for xenial. Could you briefly tell what works and what doesn't? Also, are the Pro5 images going to appear soon or in the later stage of development after the fp2, bacon and hammerhead are ironed out?
 @theMitu, Xenial rootfs it out for less than half a day
 do you really expect it to be tested to the point where we could tell you what works and what not?
 (Sticker, 512x358) https://irc.ubports.com/iEJsyvkY/file_1386
 @TronFourtyTwo, :D
 @vanyasem, Good question
 @Marty McFly, I think it should be possible to create a ecryptfs container inside a file and mount it as your home directory. Or use the sdcard for this purpose. Trying this is on my todo list. A downer is the missing AES instruction set in the CPU of my BQ 4.5, so I assume encryption could be quite slow and energy consuming. For truecrypt... I don't use it for their history. See http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
 This is just experimental, of course. Keys in memory, no TPM support etc. makes it an unsuitable solution depending on your needs.
 Veracrypt would be the better option, no?
 I think the main issue with encryption is the integration with the system. It should unlock the key when entering your passphrase (or PIN if you want) and work transparently in the background. Also the energy consumption / cpu load would need to be tested and tweaked. If this works, you can think about which encryption software is the most trustworthy and well reviewed one. Its just Ubuntu, so everything that does not dig too deep into the kernel shou
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 Frankly, just use LVM with full disk crypto
[16:41] <xorpad> ext4 filesystem level encryption?
 Full disk encryption on a phone / tablet would be incredible, but sounds more like a dream at the moment.
[16:43] <xorpad> Why would it be incredible? It would be an incredible battery drain that's for sure
 For the same reason as on every other platform
 @bastos777, hi
[16:45] <xorpad> @Dominik I think on any mobile device where battery life is an issue, the new filesystem level encryption the linux kernel added would be better
 @Dominik, But in order to be transparent it must reside in the kernel level
 @xorpad, agreed
[16:47] <xorpad> btw i'm still alive and working on bullhead
[16:47] <xorpad> :D
[16:51] <tgBot> oleg sokolov was added by: oleg sokolov
 Welcome oleg
 A full disk encryption on any device prevents information leakage and tempering in the powered off state. This sound like a very admirable property for a privacy focused OS. For the reason you named, it is impracticable fors phones atm and therefore "a dream". In UT, most of the relevant data resides in the home directory. So starting there would probably be a good start.
[16:52] <tgBot> <oleg sokolov> Sony Xperia Ultra XA, - possible to port?
[16:53] <xorpad> full disk encryption also involves repartitioning the device and flashing the bootloader
 @Xorpad Any update on improving the Nexus 5 kernel ?
 @oleg sokolov, Nothing's impossible ;) If I got it right from here: You need to port halium to your device and you're ready to go for UT. But the complicated part is porting halium. There are some guides.
 @mariogrip, Sexy !
 @oleg sokolov, Isn't the one supported by Sailfish ?
[16:55] <tgBot> <oleg sokolov> Thank you, Bjarne! I'll try to
[16:55] <xorpad> @Ern_st well, I was doing things then I was told it wasn't wanted
 @xorpad, 😁👍
 @Ern_st, Ooo, are they planning on putting it on Halium?
 No, but i was thining about that : https://blog.jolla.com/sailfishx/
 I did some searching, and after a long battle, I found that it has a 3.10 kernel.
 Doesn't seems to be the same phone. However the community of Sailfish OS already offert a non official port
 (Photo, 600x960) https://irc.ubports.com/yOs7k0fU/file_1388.jpg How I feel today
[17:06] <xorpad> lol
 It goes far enough into the boot process to expose itself over USB.
 @UniversalSuperBox  question, version 16.04 is avaible in the dev version of ubports?
 Yes, for the core devices.
 Don't use it if you want your phone to work
 @UniversalSuperBox okay... I Just wanna test it
 @UniversalSuperBox i have an core device 'bacon', buy when is switch to dev channel. The version is still 15.04
 @UniversalSuperBox version 180 ?
 @UniversalSuperBox, same...
 with xenial rootfs, right?
 ;)
 @jakko, You'll need to flash with ubuntu-device-flash to get it. Right now I'm fighting with trying to get it onto Halium.
 @UniversalSuperBox okay...that's why... Okay, is halium ready for OTA-3?
 No, it will not be
 OTA-3 will still be a release of the old software.
 The xenial Wallpapers are fancy ❤️
 First time I am missing my Nexus 5.. xenial fever!!
 @UniversalSuperBox, Okay..
 Hey @Xorpad, @Flohack , could you please help me understand why "sudo modprobe ecryptfs" throws an error "kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.67/modules.dep.bin'" ? Can I fix it somehow? (BQ Aquaris 4.5 OTA 2)
 @UniversalSuperBox maybe you can give me an answer, is there an Whatsapp cliënt avaible for UT?
 @UniversalSuperBox besides loqui
 LoquiIM. Buggy, but worth a try, if you not depend on your WhatsApp account.
 @Dominik, I fear sudo apt-get install —reinstall linux-image-... is not a solution
 @Dominik, I have no experience with this kernel module, but does this modules.dep.bin exist or not?
 Any enabled kernel modules would be in the boot image. It's unlikely that ecryptfs is built for an Android kernel by default.
 @nfsprodriver, Thx...
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the info. Is it possible to add kernel modules without recompiling the kernel? I thought modprobe does exactly this.
 You're asking me questions I don't know the answer to
 If the module was compiled in tree (however you do that) and put it into the correct directory, I suppose that would work
 I'm no kernel dev, I just play one on TV.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Story of my life ;)
 Ok thank you. It will postpone battling ecryptfs
 @Dominik, @UniversalSuperBox  I don't know if I use this saying correctly. I know the feeling is what I meant.
 @Dominik, Ask here @KernelDevTalk . They know about kernel stuff.
 @Dominik, For sureshot answers mention @nathanchance . He is pro at kernel stuff.
 Cool, thanks!
 Welcome
 (Photo, 1021x668) https://irc.ubports.com/IR5LOor0/file_1390.jpg Hi there! o/ I've got a short question. I would like to flash my aquaris e4.5 back to ubports. Is it possible to do it WITHOUT MDT? Flashing stock firmware + ubports recovery.img does not work
 MDT doesn't work well with my Dualboot-Windows. And my Manjaro doesn't like Snap packages at the moment and refuses to mount the snap package … *- Mount snap "core" (3017) ([start var-lib-snapd-snap-core-3017.mount] failed with exit status 1: Job for var-lib-snapd-snap-core-3017.mount failed. … *
 I would say: Install last Canonical version (OTA15) and then via adb us ubuntu-device-flash tool and flash ubports. After reboot you're done :)
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> huehnchen666: i did it with MDT from the git, this installs all needed packages to do it properly
 Can i use ubuntu-device-flash at all using ArchLinux at all? :D
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> huehnchen666:mdt snap failed on me
 @huehnchen666, Oh, you really might need MDT for partioning. Else you can try bootstrap in fastboot mode.
 (Photo, 935x700) https://irc.ubports.com/0nYpqgOM/file_1392.jpg Well... It looks like it would be, theoretically, enough to just format parts of the device and flash the krillin-recovery.
 Oh MDT and MTK confusing. What system is currently on the phone?
 SP Flash Tool just doesn't have an option to just format parts of it. So i just used the normal formatting option in SP Flash Tool. But it didn't help, though
 Year ago i switched to stock Android. Now using SP Flash tool, back to OTA-15 by Bq/Canoncial
 That's a good way :)
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> huehnchen6666: sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=flo --channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable --bootstrap
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> that was for my nexus7
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> bq4.5 i did with MDT tool from the git
 So, right now you have a phone running Canonical OTA-15, correct?
 sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=krillin —channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable should be for e4.5
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> tnx nfs
 Right.
 Without bootstrap. Bootstrap is for wiping in fastboot mode.
 I CAN NOT try this, because i am NOT using Ubuntu at the moment, thus i cannot install ubuntu-device-flash :D :(
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> oh
 Do you already have the adb/fastboot drivers for your phone installed?
 https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases
 @huehnchen666, Now we got you.
 I've already written above that i am using Manjaro at the moment^^
 The AppImage should do.
 @huehnchen666, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ubuntu-device-flash/
 ADB/fastboot is installed
 Well... It seems like i've searched for another dependency, that i could not find in AUR. … Gonna try this out :)
 Test
 Hmm
 This is stupid test from E5 running Telegram Beta
 @huehnchen666, ubuntu-device-flash from AUR. Adb and Fastboot from Arch repo and magic-devices-tools from Snap.. works for me
 (Photo, 1280x760) https://irc.ubports.com/Eacj1D3L/file_1394.jpg Well... Using the AppImage, it seems to run out of the box finally. :D Thanks guys, gonna have some fun with ubports today. Having now a spare bq to test with makes it easier for me to use ubports.
 @Flohack, This is a stupid reply to confirm that the stupid test is working
 @huehnchen666, Great. Guys I am in.
 Basically. Still tons of bugs probably
 good news
 I want that beta badly
 Well, i will try to write an easy app. Being a film photographer, an app which can track developing times might come handy. And because there is nothing there yet for UB, i will try to do it. Although i can imagine, that i might be the only one ever using it :D
 gimme 4 more days or so. I want to fix at least bare minimum stuff ^^
 💛💛💛
 Love you guys
 What a great day!
 Not it is fastboot-flashing for about 5 minutes. Neither flashing the whole bq-ROM did take so long... Hopefully everything goes well
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tkGXCFa0/file_1396.jpg
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/BMS0qiw3/file_1398.jpg
 avatars dont shot up yet :)
 Webapp???
 Hi guys, I would really want to have an ubports phone. Does the community have​ a channel to buy old bq aquaris?
 @malditobastardo, ya
 @malditobastardo, mixed
 Yappp. Cool !
 😍
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tC3ux1qJ/file_1400.jpg
 I wish there was a way to use the header for colouring etc like in lagdroid and ios
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/hkULOYFm/file_1402.jpg
 Well, doing it without the GUI seems to work better. But this doesn't look like fastboot? … Hm...
[18:47] <tgBot> <Kiran kr.> @huehnchen666, 👍
 This might be the fanciest fastboot i have ever seen. Would like to have some verbose, though
 And by the way: … SUDO is not working, it would fail creating the /root/.cache/ubuntuimages directory. … Using SU, it works! :D
 (Photo, 1280x1278) https://irc.ubports.com/eH8jkxsF/file_1404.jpg I've settled for this as the final logo
 It looks...ehm... It fits well! :D … (Never really enjoyed the WA-logo. But good to know, that it is working again on UT)
 @PacoIgnazioTaiboII, They are very rare. I don't think you stand much chance. Getting a Nexus 5 used is far more likely
 Well, my E4.5 doesn't like 5Ghz networks it seems... :(
 @Flohack, Oh.
 @huehnchen666, Woop :D
 Well it is working now finally. Sadly i will have to use a second WLAN network to play with it. But 5Ghz didn't work with Android either, so it's not ubports fault :)
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/D53E3vlR/file_1406.jpg
 Hey, other topix, sorry: is there anyone around using the ubuntu-sdk? … I installed it not long ago on a i386 Ubuntu 16.04 system and there it worked (I just tried basic functions). Now I wanted to use my own laptop. I installed a amd64 Ubuntu 16.04 on a USB stick because I did not want to replace my productive Linux system but nevertheless use the ubuntu-sdk on a ubuntu (usb stick is now not only live system with persistence but a full install). … 
[18:57] <tgBot> USB I added the ppa and updated/upgraded the system. Added user to group lxd. Logged out and logged in again. … NOW: When starting ubuntu-sdk a window appears:
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/AQ4Xiwvh/file_1408.jpg
 click dont show again and click no
 then use a clickable root
 Can you explain, please. Or just give a hint where to read more about "then use a clickable container"? (Sry, I am not even a noob...) … ... Or do you know, where this problem can cone from? I tried updating again and reinstalling, did not help, also I could not find hints in the logs.
 bunia do you want a virtual machine with the SDK configured?
 all the tools are configured
 Ah, hi @mimecar thanks a lot. To be honest, your tutorial was the reason to give ubuntu-sdk a try.  … Thanks for this work! … Do you think the virtual machine is a better idea than booting from USB?
 if your computes can run the virtual machine, yes
 you have one file with all the elements
 So I can just follow your link from ubports forum. I will try that.
 yes, this is the link https://forums.ubports.com/post/4334
 The virtual machine occupies 12 GB, I will try the next version that occupies less
 silly question is it possible to make a snap with the sdk? if i remember corectly there was already an attempt of doing that
 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+snaps
 don't know what exactly is this ^^ but it has sdk and snap in the names X-)
 😆
 snap install ubuntu-touch-sdk
 boom! how cool would that be!
 (Sticker, 482x512) https://irc.ubports.com/CdKmwNfR/file_1409
 anyone here with a Fp2 on 16.04?
[19:37] <tgBot> Pawan Gond was added by: Pawan Gond
[19:40] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> Ubuntu touch not available for Moto G 2014 -_-
[19:40] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> But it is available on xda
 Test
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/SL5Udjfc/file_1411.jpg
 Yay!
[19:43] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> English pls🙄
[19:43] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> Please checkout this
[19:43] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/experimental-ubuntu-touch-titan-t3608846
[19:44] <tgBot> <Pawan Gond> This looks little bit unstable
 Yeah, that's walid. He's on our forums too.
 @samzn, Are you going to upload this?
 ya ofc
[19:56] <tgBot> lebron36 was added by: lebron36
 @lebron36, Welcome Isaac
 @Stereofont, Thanks
[20:03] <tgBot> <Kiran kr.> @samzn, Is this WhatsApp in Ubuntu touch??? 😳
 ???
 @vanyasem, Just thought that devs probably ran it before the release while developing and might have a clue that for example sound and wifi work, but RIL doesn't or this kind. If I'm wrong and noone knows yet, please don't feel offended. :) Anyway, I've also asked about Pro 5, as it has been stated that it was to be uplifted to Xenial as well.
 @theMitu, Okay, this is where I stop you. These images are experimental. They have not been announced outside of this channel. They exist soley in a place called 'devel'. They have been created with a brand new build system, process, and version of Ubuntu. I don't think that an expectation of quality was set forward and I'm sorry if you feel that one was. … With that said, how do you think that we should improve our communication in the fu
[20:09] <tgBot> so misunderstandings like this don't happen?
 I completely misread that statement and though that you had installed it on your FP2 and were upset that x or y didn't work. To actually answer your question, no, we don't know what is or isn't working on each device yet.
 I'm obviously not in the right mind to be using a keyboard today. I'll be signing off now.
 @UniversalSuperBox, We all make mistakes
 (Photo, 600x449) https://irc.ubports.com/dq390ZVa/file_1413.jpg
 Prudence guys.
 Think before saying anything
 @Pawan Gond, We are working with Walid to get it included in our experimental channel soon !
 how to use cpt on windows what are the requirements
 @popescu_sorin, Whait what? Does that even exist?
 @Flohack, Great
 @YougoChats, yeah, since this morning? and very very alpha https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/16.04/devel/
 Wow. Checking out now. I had like 900 new messages in this group so I didn't read 😅
 @popescu_sorin, Did you make a video? 🤔
 no :D because i'm afraid to flash 16.04 on my fp2
 Is this with halium and all the whizbang?
 What's the worst that can happen? Flash again?
[20:41] <doniks> ah come on popescu, take one for the team, just kidding :)
 Or could it actually break stuff?
 probably just flash again :D but i'm 2 lazy :))
 right now
 i'm not even sure how to
 maybe, sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=fp2 \ … —channel=16.04/devel —bootstrap
 in fastboot?
 Pretty much I guess. Watch the ''--'' while copying that though
[20:47] <doniks> I wouldn't be surprised if it also required a --wipe to function properly
[20:48] <doniks> you can try without, but either way, I'd say you should be prepared to lose data&settings
 i don't have much data on fp2 anyway :>
 @UniversalSuperBox, No problem :) To clarify, I don't even have an FP2, just a Pro 5. I know that this is the very first pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha, so there is no problem in communication. Just thought that while working on the images you have some clues on what's working (for ex. based on the former images that had not been released).  If not, OK - I perfectly understand that and am not feeling disappointed or so ;) … So don't worry, take some rest if 
[20:52] <tgBot> need and keep doing the great job you do, @UniversalSuperBox :)
 Can hardly wait for pre alpha for M10 FHD 🙊
[21:02] <ubports_bot> Project daily-bacon build #308: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-bacon/308/
[21:03] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1206: SUCCESS in 57 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1206/
[21:08] <doniks> peeking into the device-f9a....xz file doesn't look like a halium install
[21:12] <tgBot> Robert Amann was added by: Robert Amann
 @Robert Amann, Welcome Robert
 6 members to 900 😎
 Hello, I'm trying to help Bjarne with LoquIM, but I need to unhide files and folders into my device, I'm using WinSCP, anyone knows how to do it?
 I have to reach this to send him the log: ~/.cache/upstart/...loqui...log
 @Akira_rulezZ, Did you try the logviewer app?
 I don't know it, can I see hide files from pc?
 It is in OpenStore I think. You don't need the PC for it
 I think it exports sensitive information like phone number though so you may want to edit?
 No, I don't edit anything, I have to send the log to Bjarne
 I hoped to copy/paste from my pc or something easy
 @Akira_rulezZ, you should be able to see home if you connect your phone to pc with a cable, right?
 just copy the logs in Downloads or whatever, cp ~/.cache/upstart/* ~/Downloads
 from the terminal on the phone and then you should see the logs in ~/Downloads
 or adb shell
 and adb pull?
 adb pull  ~/.cache/upstart/*
 ?? does this even work lol
 I can't see the dotted folders
 this seems to work … ```adb pull /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/unity8.log ~/Documents```
 @Akira_rulezZ, are you on windows?
 open the terminal on the phone
 @popescu_sorin, I've solved right now 😬
 how?
 We solved some complications witth WinSCP
 ```adb pull /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/ ~/Documents``` … should copy all your logs to Documents on PC
 i think you need to enable developer mode first?
 I've downloaded the file in my PC and then pasted on Telegram
 It's already on dev mode
 ok  :D
 cool
 It's very interesting to do these thing, but a bit complicated
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/HXFFHvr0/file_1415.jpg
 hm.. i don't have any app installed that can open log files
 Why I can't see the keyboard when I try to configure gmail on Dekko2? Anyone else?
 Dekko2 is early alpha. Also having several keyboard bugs.
 @popescu_sorin, Yeah, we need an app beeing able to open any file in text mode.
 Maybe seabass should get such url-dispatcher.
 It can, but you have to specify it.
 Gedit opens log files on my system. 🤔
 We're talking about Ubuntu Touch 😂
 Good night everyone!
 @nfsprodriver, Is there an alternative for Gmail?
 @nfsprodriver, Oh, fml. I'm in the wrong group. 😂
 cdimage.ubports.com should have an official dekko 0.6.20 click package.
 Yep
 @Dominik, Hi Dominik. I only now noticed what you've wrote to help. That was what I did afterwards and I was able to run the commands without errors. I was trying to install LibreOffice following this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/866156/how-to-install-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-touch
 But after running the commands successfully I still don't see LibreOffice apps icons on the dash
 I don't see LibreOffice on the Desktop Apps in the GUI.
 @nfsprodriver, Is a Dekko I've found in the official store?
 https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-install-Ubuntu-Touch-16.04
 WARNING: 16.04-based Ubuntu Touch is in an early state of development and usable as a daily driver for the moment.
 and *not* usable, right?
 @neothethird ^^ :D
 bug in the wiki text? or is it really usable as a daily
 What's the difference between 15.4 and 16.4?
 15.04 usable, 16.04 experimental alpha
 OK, but about functions?
 snaps
 Yo Guys.. where do I find the source to the UB ports terminal. I think it is one of the best touchscreen terminals I have seen and I want to compile it for the up and coming Gemini
 Snaps are the new apps?
 yeah, a new format
 now we use clicks
 OK, are there same apps like now? Or are there less?