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R-Smithdoes anyone know how to disable the transparency-shifting effect on the top menu bar in 17.10?00:01
EriC^^mia_temp: looks good, type "sudo umount /mnt"00:01
R-SmithI found the option to disable it for the dock in dconf editor, but I can't find an option to disable it in the menu bar00:01
EriC^^mia_temp: then type "sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt"00:02
mia_tempEriC^^: done00:02
EriC^^mia_temp: type "sudo parted /dev/sdd set 1 boot on"00:03
EriC^^mia_temp: that sets the boot flag for the windows 7 partition00:04
mia_tempEriC^^: not needed00:04
mia_tempwindows 7 is just VERY rare00:04
mia_tempif that disk is picked from the bios menu, ubuntu should start00:04
mia_temp(normally)00:04
mia_tempwindows 7 is there just as a plan C, you know00:05
EriC^^yeah, doesn't windows not like it when it's not set though?00:05
mia_temphm what do you mean00:05
mia_temphat did that command do --- just add windows 7 to the menu?00:05
EriC^^no, it sets the "boot" flag for the windows 7 ntfs partition00:05
mia_temp(also gave me this notification: éInformation: You may need to update /etc/fstab.")00:05
mia_tempso it makes win7 the default?00:06
EriC^^no, it's just a requirement for some bios, and windows usually wants it for it to boot00:06
mia_tempoh okay00:06
mia_temp99% of the things you told me to execute, I didn't get them anyway00:07
EriC^^np :D00:07
mia_tempso this seems to be fixed?00:07
mia_tempMay I restart and try?00:07
EriC^^mia_temp: not yet, the ubuntu install is kind of wacky00:07
mia_tempoh okay00:07
mia_tempwhat should we do now00:07
mia_tempI can reinstall ubuntu btw -- if needed00:08
EriC^^mia_temp: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"00:08
EriC^^as you wish, we can fix it if you want, it needs to fix fstab and install the right grub package00:09
mia_tempthat ubuntu install is kind of damaged if you ask me00:09
mia_tempmouse wheel is not working for some reason00:09
mia_tempand the screen drivers are messed up00:09
mia_tempit's updated from 16.04 lts00:10
mia_tempprob. that's what broke my things in the first place00:10
EriC^^ah, better to clean install then00:10
mia_tempBut if you think fixing is a better option then let's fix00:10
mia_tempokay00:10
mia_tempso next question:00:10
mia_temphow can I clean install and keep my user data00:10
mia_tempalso, is the boot configuration correct as it is now, I mean, / as the <boot< partition00:11
mia_tempis this how it should be normally ?00:11
billythekidHello guys. It seems during installation I "managed" to installed both Luks and ecryptfs. If I see a ~/.encryptfs and a LVM _encrypt volume it means I'm double encrypting right???00:11
EriC^^mia_temp: well it doesn't matter really for linux, some bios need that there's a primary partition with a boot flag or they won't bother loading any bootloader code at all00:11
mia_tempoh so could I just use one partition for everything00:12
mia_tempI use two now, I guess00:12
mia_tempso user files should be in a bigger partition, 80 gigs or so00:12
mia_tempwhereas the system is 20 gigs00:12
EriC^^mia_temp: yeah sure, the user data should be in the /home partition which is /dev/sdd300:12
mia_tempok, so I believe if I reinstall again, I'll check format for the / partition and leave the /me as is00:13
mia_tempand select / as /boot --- ?00:13
mia_tempwould that work00:13
mia_temp(or ideal?)00:13
mia_tempThank you very much EriC^^  for all your time and support, by the way, this is extremely helpful, you can't imagine what kind of a panic attack you've saved me from..00:13
EriC^^mia_temp: yeah just choose to format the "/" partition, it will put /boot in it no need to select that, about the /home i'd not touch it i dunno how the installer goes about stuff, then just add it in fstab later00:15
mia_tempfstab?00:15
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EriC^^mia_temp: yeah add it to /etc/fstab00:17
EriC^^!home | mia_temp this has some info about /home and /etc/fstab00:17
ubottumia_temp this has some info about /home and /etc/fstab: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving00:17
EriC^^mia_temp: nevermind that guide00:18
zambai want to set up vlan traffic towards my server00:19
zambacurrently it's set up with a single untagged vlan00:19
zambacan i add the new vlan i want to access a as tagged vlan and still keep the untagged one? meaning i can use vconfig add eth0 <id>?00:20
EriC^^mia__: still there?00:21
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efefehey, can I just copy past everything inside install.sh file into the cmd?00:33
kostkonefefe, I guess you can, if it's free of conditional statements and such or you can and willing to properly escape multiple lines of code. why though?00:37
stdafx100:40
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wonkofinally got it00:50
wonkonot sure what I did exactly, but it works now, so whatevs. :)00:50
bodomHi there! When i try to umount a cifs share, it looks like something quickly remounts it. How can i ovveride this behavior?00:54
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tickHi, just installed 17.10, generally it has been great but i've had a couple of issues.01:24
tickfirefox doesn't seem to recognize magnet links any more... anyone else else notice this? how would i fix it?01:25
tickand synaptic package manager doesn't seem to run... the password dialog box pops up but synaptic doesn't start after that. any one else experiece this? any fixes?01:28
above_the_clouds@tick: Strange. Have you tried to apply any updates to see if that would resolve the issue? Example: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade\01:31
above_the_cloudsThe slash at the end was a typo.01:31
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tickabove_the_clouds: is that for the magnet links or for synaptic? has there been any major update since the release?01:36
above_the_clouds@tick: I don't know if there have been any significant updates. Personally, I am running 16.04 LTS. What I wrote just checks for new packages and then installs which ones were updated.01:40
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tickabove_the_clouds: okay, thanks. i will give it a shot01:43
above_the_clouds@tick: No problem. Let us know if you still have problems after that.01:45
hylianhas anyone else noticed that there is no clipboard manager installed for 17.10? I had to install parcellite myself.01:46
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devslashi installed 17.10 and rebooted and now it doesnt boot. it gets stuck on the ubuntu logo with the 5 dots01:55
tickdevslash: i had that problem, i manually powered down and restarted and it booted fine but a bit slow. although i have a few glitches now and i wonder if they relate to that somehow01:57
devslashi dunno01:58
devslashits been on the boot screen for 10 minutes now01:59
rdhdevslash, pressing an arrow key at the ubuntu logo will show console output01:59
tickdevslash: did you try manually powering it down and restarting?01:59
devslashyes01:59
devslashpressing arrow key doesnt do anything02:00
devslashi tried removing quiet ad splash from the boot params and i dont see any output02:02
devslashjusta blank purple screen02:02
eb0t_in general how is 17.10 going for those that have dared to upgrade02:03
devslashbad02:03
rdheb0t_, well for me02:03
devslashdont unless you want to reinstall02:03
eb0t_ah ..ok02:03
devslashit hosed my ubuntu installation02:03
eb0t_so its a bit shaky right now for some02:03
SKSMajalengka_riassalamualaikum02:04
eb0t_is reinstallation gonna be a big inconvenience for you devslash02:05
devslashyes02:06
eb0t_if you have all your stuff saved ..might be a good option02:06
eb0t_ah sorry to hear that02:06
devslashim at root console02:07
devslashi did ifconfig eth0 up and it says no such device02:07
devslashdid the device naming change in 17.10 ?02:08
eb0t_try sudo udevadm trigger02:08
eb0t_then type ip addr02:08
devslashweird02:09
devslashit shows i have an ip but i cant ping google02:09
eb0t_what is the name of the interface02:10
eb0t_that it shows02:10
devslashenp10s002:10
eb0t_cool so no longer eth002:10
eb0t_ping 8.8.8.802:10
devslashworks02:10
devslashdns issue02:11
eb0t_ok so dns is not work02:11
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devslashwhat can i do02:13
eb0t_you can look in /etc/resolv.conf to see if you have any nameservers declared02:14
eb0t_if not02:14
SKSMajalengka_rimy name is rival, what is your name02:14
eb0t_just type put nameserver 8.8.8.8 and save it02:14
eb0t_then dns will work02:14
devslashwhat do i put in there exactly02:14
eb0t_exactly what i wrote02:15
devslashput nameserver 8.8.8.802:15
eb0t_nameserver 8.8.8.802:15
eb0t_for some reason your upgrade has removed your resolv.conf file ..or replaced it with a blank one02:16
eb0t_then try ping www.google.com02:16
devslashok that worked02:16
devslashim able to ping google.com02:17
eb0t_good02:17
eb0t_then you are now up and running02:17
devslashno02:17
devslashi have internet connection in root console02:17
devslashbut otherwise my install is still currently screwed up02:17
eb0t_switch user to your username and type startx02:17
eb0t_in fact that probably wont work02:18
eb0t_i think ubuntu is now using wayland02:18
eb0t_but you can try02:18
eb0t_i know nothing of wayland02:18
eb0t_startx is for starting x environment02:18
eb0t_god only knows how you initiate wayland02:18
devslashcan anyone help me out02:19
devslashhmm i just noticed something interesting02:19
devslashteamviewer just started up on this desktop but console f1 shows blank purple screen02:19
devslashso its running in the background02:21
eb0t_try ctrl alt f1 then same with f2 etc02:21
eb0t_you will eventually come back to where you are now02:21
eb0t_there is a possibility wayland is running somewhere02:22
devslashno it isnt02:22
eb0t_you could also from root ps aux | grep ayland02:23
eb0t_dbus-run-session -- gnome-shell --display-server --wayland02:27
eb0t_type that from root02:27
eb0t_maybe lose the space between -- and gnome-shell02:28
devslashdoesnt work02:28
eb0t_what error is it giving you02:29
devslashno such option gnome-shell02:29
eb0t_try without the space then02:29
eb0t_and with the space02:29
devslashno go02:29
eb0t_ok then cd /etc02:29
eb0t_no dont bother with that02:29
eb0t_type whereis wayland02:29
devslashits in /usr/share/wayland02:30
eb0t_gnome-session --session gnome-wayland02:30
eb0t_try that02:30
devslashok hang on i need to install gnome-session02:31
devslashit says Trace/breakpoint trap02:32
devslashany idea what to do ?02:34
eb0t_if i were you i would just run an update again02:35
devslashhow02:36
devslashi mean what would i run02:36
eb0t_sudo apt-get update02:37
devslashok02:38
devslashit updatred the repos02:38
devslashafdter that i did apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade but theres nothing to update02:38
eb0t_hmm ...maybe reboot then02:38
devslashi found an eror in xorg.log02:39
eb0t_cool02:39
devslashfailed to connect to dbus02:39
eb0t_see i am not sure about this you see...im not sure if wayland is a complete different beast...not sure it uses xorg02:40
devslashwith yhe ath /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket02:40
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eb0t_are you in virtual box or something02:43
devslashwhen i do startx it says couldnt insert nvidia_304 no such device02:43
devslashno02:43
eb0t_well it seems like the upgrade didnt work fully..not sure if you were using wayland before02:44
devslashit did work art first02:45
eb0t_do you remember what you were doing before it stopped working02:45
devslashjust trying to set a wallpaper02:45
eb0t_hmm ..display kind of stuff02:45
devslashthe screen went all blue and didnt respond so i rebooted02:45
devslashnever worked after that02:46
eb0t_so you were booted into gnome and then you went into settings to modify wallpaper and thats when it stopped working02:46
devslashyes02:46
dar123i am trying to add some variables available after boot. added them to my Sxx scripts. export foo=bar but they don't show up02:48
devslashare you adding environment variables02:49
dar123yes02:49
devslashwhy not add that to /etc/environment?02:49
eb0t_gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background draw-background false02:49
eb0t_try that to clear out any nonsense that may have got into the gnome background wallpaper thingy02:50
dar123hmm, let me see if i can do that. I see a note in comments not to add there. Company policy i guess02:50
eb0t_have you tried loggin out and then back in dar12302:50
devslashi get a warning failed to commit changes to dconf cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 display02:55
devslashim in single user console so maybe thats not a big deal cause there is no x display02:55
eb0t_yes02:55
devslashno i get a blank purple display and thats it02:56
devslashnow02:56
eb0t_but you dont get the gnome desktop02:56
devslashno02:56
devslashcant change to different console either02:56
eb0t_its hanging somewhere02:57
eb0t_so ctrl alt f1 etc isnt working02:59
devslashno03:00
eb0t_may be something to do with single user console03:00
devslashno03:00
eb0t_then you have no option but reboot03:01
devslashwhen i reboot it gets stuck on a purple splash screen03:01
devslashwhen i boot normally03:01
devslashcan anyone else help me out here03:02
eb0t_https://askubuntu.com/questions/138700/ubuntu-12-04-blank-purple-splash-screen-after-live-install03:02
devslashdoersnt fix the [problem03:05
devslashis anyone else here03:12
devslashi will send someone BC if you can help me fix this03:16
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lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:27
ledenidevslash, can you boot in recovery mode?03:32
ReedK0guys how do you load the vim tutorial03:32
devslashyes03:32
devslashsingle user recovery03:32
devslashwhen i press ctrl d it hangs after smdb.service03:33
lotuspsychje!man | ReedK003:33
ubottuReedK0: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/03:33
ReedK0i'm reading the vim manual. :P03:33
ledenido you see gdm or hang before that03:36
ReedK0it's vimtutor03:36
ledenidevslash,^^^03:37
devslashno03:39
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huoi need useing fcitx03:55
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luxioI've been distro hopping for a while now, and just recently installed Ubuntu. I love it!04:12
luxioEspecially now that it uses GNOME04:12
lotuspsychjeluxio: welcome to the community04:12
luxio:)04:12
lotuspsychje!discuss | luxio most welcome to talk about here04:13
ubottuluxio most welcome to talk about here: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!04:13
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harish_hi04:28
R-Smithhowdy04:29
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harish_😂04:49
reisio'face with tears of joy'04:51
Yaser_AmiriHi, I have some physical interfaces and some pppoe connection on their, now when I execute "ifconfig" there is some virtual interfaces (ppp0-1 ). How can I get map of this virtual interfaces to their physical interfaces?05:10
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theG0ldeng0dis there a way to use an animated gif as my desktop wallpaper06:43
yokowkahello every soul! i have such problem: broken loader of ubuntu 17.04 and then was installed ubuntu 16.04 to the same place so and 17.04/ For a moment system not loads from 16.04 but hangs on from 17.04... Help me please!06:48
lotuspsychjetheG0ldeng0d: i think there are packages that can set animated wallpapers somehow06:49
lotuspsychje!details | yokowka06:49
ubottuyokowka: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.06:49
lotuspsychjeyokowka: at wich step are you right now?06:50
lotuspsychjeyokowka: try to explain what happens at wich point?06:51
yokowkai'm trying to fix grub 206:51
lotuspsychje!recovergrub | yokowka06:52
ubottuyokowka: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub06:52
lotuspsychjeyokowka: what did you do to brake it?06:52
yokowkai ve installed and used ubuntu 17.04 . then clear from synaptic some pockets so system crashed06:52
yokowkagive me link for photos it will be more clear06:53
lotuspsychjeyokowka: imgur.com06:54
redCOAT_How do I remote connect from Unbuntu to Windows and vice versa?06:56
redCOAT_Is there any software that is free and easy to use to accomplish this task besides installing wine on unbuntu06:57
yokowkalotuspsychje https://imgur.com/a/6kY4f https://imgur.com/a/vMJhR06:58
lotuspsychjeredCOAT_: one time or all time?06:59
redCOAT_one time06:59
lotuspsychjeredCOAT_: teamviewer06:59
redCOAT_great thanks06:59
redCOAT_one of the first remote desktop apps I used lol07:00
lotuspsychjeredCOAT_: openssh for secure work remote07:01
redCOAT_thanks lotuspsychje  openssh won't provide a gui right?07:03
alkisgyokowka: now ubuntu 16.04 loads and 17.10 hangs?07:04
yokowka<alkisg> 17.04 hangs , 16.04 not loads07:05
alkisgyokowka: so you are in a live cd?07:05
yokowka<alkisg> yes i'm07:06
alkisgyokowka: the picture says sda6 is mounted as /07:06
alkisgSo this isn't a live cd...07:06
hellrazorhi all07:07
alkisgHello07:08
yokowka<alkisg> this photos made for the second time trying installing of ubuntu 16.04 from live cd07:08
ReedK0yokowka, what's your hardware?07:08
alkisgyokowka: this photo is not from a live cd because sda6 is mounted as /07:09
alkisgDid you manage to boot 16.04, and this is from the hard disk installation?07:09
ReedK0Checks out.  Maybe it isn't burned properly.   What tool did you use to make your liveCD?07:09
hellrazori am having a question07:09
hellrazorhttps://pastebin.com/r7W4khcb07:10
hellrazorit looks like some package files are broken07:10
yokowkaalkisg not i don't know how to manage boot of 16.0407:10
hellrazorany way to solve this?07:10
yokowkareedK0 dell 3537inspiron07:11
alkisghellrazor: what's the output of `apt policy lvm2` ?07:11
ReedK0Someone help me make an ubuntu script please. :D07:11
ReedK0It's kinda a keylogger.07:11
ikoniaReedK0: we will not help with that07:11
ikoniathis channel is for ubuntu support - not scripting or exploit development07:11
yokowkaReedK0 i used burned program recomended ubuntu07:11
hellrazorapt policy lvm207:11
ReedK0it's not an exploit.07:11
hellrazorE: Invalid operation policy07:11
hellrazorYou have new mail in /var/mail/root07:11
alkisg!bootinfo | grep yokowka:07:11
ubottugrep yokowka:: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.07:11
alkisgyokowka: can you do that? ^07:12
hellrazor@ alkisg07:12
ReedK0Do you know a good scripting language for ubuntu desktop?07:12
TobaSo, in unity - how can I make windows stop trying to "snap" to various other shapes when I resize them?07:12
alkisghellrazor: which distro/version is that?07:12
hellrazorInvaled operation policy07:12
TobaI want to set the sizes of my windows the way i set them and have nothing automatic happen07:12
ikoniaReedK0: there are many scripting and programming langauges, what matters is the one you can write in07:12
hellrazoralkisg: ubuntu 14.04 but it start as 12.10 or so07:12
hellrazorhas a few dist upgrades behind it07:12
alkisghellrazor: it sounds like you have bad sources.list. What's the output of lsb_release -r ?07:12
hellrazorRelease: 14.04 @ alkisg07:13
yokowkaalkisg i'm trying07:13
yokowkaalkisg to do that07:13
hellrazoralkisg: so fixing the sources.list might help07:14
alkisghellrazor: egrep -rv '^#|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list* | nc termbin.com 999907:14
hellrazoralkisg: http://termbin.com/k9mz07:14
hellrazorwhat a mess07:15
cristian_chello07:15
alkisghellrazor: apt-cache policy lvm207:15
cristian_cwhen I use mozplugger, opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead07:16
alkisg(why ftp instead of http there in the sources...)07:16
cristian_cHow could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files using it?07:16
cristian_cany ideas?07:16
ReedK0ikonia, i can't write any of them for ubuntu.  Isn't there like an ubuntu equivalent of batch?07:17
hellrazoralkisg: http://termbin.com/dsx607:17
hellrazorthats bad its inconsistend07:17
hellrazori presume this is also the case for all the other packages07:17
ikoniaReedK0: the most common is the shell scripts07:18
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alkisghellrazor: the problem is that you enabled the proposed repository07:19
alkisghellrazor: this is used to *check* new packages that *might* end up in updates07:20
alkisgYou are supposed to only installed a few packages from there, the ones that you need to check07:20
hellrazorok makes sense07:20
alkisgBut now you updated from there, and you cannot redownload packages that were removed from the proposed queue07:20
hellrazor:D07:20
alkisgSo the correct way forward, is to remove proposed from your sources, and downgrade the packages affected07:21
alkisghellrazor: run software-properties-gtk, and remove proposed07:21
hellrazorthat would be remove trusty-proposed?07:21
alkisgYes07:21
alkisgBut that's not enough07:21
alkisgThen run sudo apt-get update07:21
hellrazorin sources.list?07:21
hellrazorof course i know07:21
alkisgEeeh you can do it from a GUi07:22
alkisgFrom software-properties-gtk07:22
alkisgBut if you want to directly edit sources.list, sure07:22
hellrazorit already open in vim =)07:22
alkisgOK07:22
alkisgThen run apt-get update07:22
alkisgAnd then I'll send you a script07:22
hellrazoralkisg: ok i guess have to change the apt-cache policy i presume07:24
alkisgNo, this only shows things, it doesn't change them07:25
alkisgGive me a moment to optimize the script...07:26
hellrazorok so how can i reinstall them?07:26
alkisghellrazor: wget http://termbin.com/wjsc -Ο /tmp/official-package-versions; chmod +x /tmp/official-package-versions; /tmp/official-package-versions07:27
alkisgWhat's the output of that?07:27
yokowkaalkisg this command sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript need password of superuser, i don't know it...07:31
alkisgyokowka: it's your own password07:31
alkisgThe password of the user07:31
yokowkaalkisg ok i'll tru07:32
yokowkatry07:32
alkisghellrazor: you may need to change "apt policy" to "apt-cache policy" in line 12:  LANG=C.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= apt-cache policy '*' 2>/dev/null | (07:32
hellrazorjeah their is a error07:33
hellrazorok correcting07:33
yokowkaalkisg my pass is wrong, sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript not find such command...07:35
alkisgyokowka: run "sudo -i", does that work?07:36
yokowkaalkisg trying07:36
hellrazoralkisg: i do not get anything back except the printf msg in the beginning07:36
alkisghellrazor: wait for 10-20 secs07:37
alkisgDid you get back to the prompt?!07:37
hellrazoralkisg: nope only the printf07:37
yokowkaalkisg works - now in root07:37
alkisghellrazor: did the script finish, do you see hellrazor@pc$ ?07:37
alkisgyokowka: ok, where did you put the bootinfoscript?07:38
hellrazoralkisg: nothing07:39
yokowkaalkisg i unpaked it to downloads folder07:39
alkisgyokowka: ok, go to the downloads folder and see what the path is, it might be russian or something instead of "downloads"07:40
yokowkaalkisg path is?07:40
alkisgyokowka: the list of directories to go there, e.g. /home/yokowka/Λήψεις/bootinfoscript07:40
alkisgIt displays it in the bar on top07:41
alkisghellrazor: nothing means it finished and you see the command prompt, or that it didn't finish?07:41
hellrazorit did finished and set me backto the command prompt without erros07:41
alkisghellrazor: You're supposed to see something like this, and we want the last line: http://termbin.com/bnsb07:43
pirayehi, can anyone help me, please? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/egQlrYG7MB8ajz50688Q/07:43
alkisgAre you sure you properly fixed the apt-cache policy line?07:43
hellrazoralkisg: yes07:43
hellrazoralkisg: http://termbin.com/veu807:45
alkisghellrazor: apt-cache policy '*' > /tmp/aptpolicy07:46
alkisgThis will generate a big file, e.g. 20 MB07:46
alkisgDo you have anywhere to upload it and give us the link?07:46
alkisgMaybe my script needs fixing for 14.04...07:46
hellrazoralkisg: i can put it on dropbox if thats ok07:46
alkisgSure07:46
hellrazoralkisg: actually the problem contists for two machines here07:47
yokowkaalkisg /home/downloads/bootinfoscript07:47
alkisgyokowka: nice, so run that one with sudo07:47
yokowkaalkisg now i'm in root07:47
yokowkaalkisg what command is?07:48
hellrazorapt-cache policy '*'07:48
hellrazorN: Unable to locate package *07:48
yokowkaalkisg to run07:48
hellrazorno wildcard here07:48
alkisghellrazor: change * to .*07:49
crc32in Ubuntu 17.10 metacity how do I get the left and bottom borders back in gnome-terminal?07:49
alkisgI think that's the issue with the script,in 14.0407:49
alkisgIn line 12 again07:49
hellrazoralkisg: now the script seems to be running07:50
alkisgCool, put the output to pastebin to see if it's sane07:50
alkisgWe basically need to check the last apt-get install command there07:50
hellrazori do not get any output07:51
alkisgDid the script finish running?07:51
hellrazorit just drops me back to the shell07:51
alkisgHrm07:51
alkisgCan you run this first? "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-cache policy lvm2"07:51
alkisgI tried the script in a 14.04 VM and it worked fine07:51
alkisg(with the .* change)07:51
hellrazorexecuting07:52
alkisgLatest version: http://termbin.com/t6mt07:52
hellrazoralkisg: no change for the lvm2 policy07:53
alkisghellrazor: output of the above commands?07:53
alkisgPut all of it to pastebin07:53
hellrazorgimme a second07:54
lateniteHi folks, I installed the package "libvirt-daemon".But I can not find any systemd service files for it. What am I missing here?07:55
hellrazoralkisg: this is the Laptop: https://pastebin.com/ZFtuRYbC07:56
alkisghellrazor: the laptop doesn't have the issue07:56
alkisghellrazor: the installed version is not the one from proposed, but from normal updates07:56
alkisg  Installed: 2.02.98-6ubuntu2 ==> previously you had 6ubuntu3 installed07:57
cfhowletthellrazor, pretty sure the command is sudo do-release-upgrade07:57
hellrazoralkisg: two maschine here07:57
alkisg(I assume in the second machine)07:57
hellrazorlaptop and desktop07:57
hellrazorlets fokus on desktop07:57
alkisghellrazor: yes, so run the script in the desktop, right07:57
cfhowlettif that's what you're after07:57
lateniteIn other words, how do I start libvirtd on Ubuntu?07:57
alkisgcfhowlett: no, he wants to revert the version of some packages to the official ones, instead of the ones from -proposed that he accidentally enabled07:58
hellrazoralkisg: DEsktop: https://pastebin.com/krTrKimq07:58
cfhowlettah.  I stand corrected, alkisg.  good looking out.07:58
hellrazorand he still has the issue07:58
alkisghellrazor: yup, now run the script there. Latest version: http://termbin.com/t6mt07:59
alkisgIt should give you an apt-get install command in the desktop pc07:59
hellrazorwe will see08:00
hellrazoralkisg: i have to fix your newest version script again apt-ache etc.. ;D08:01
alkisgNo08:01
yokowkaalkisg such new problem: bootinfoscript(~/Downloads/bootinfoscript-061)-gedit     - bash... mistake newline08:01
hellrazorok your right08:01
hellrazorbut no command prompt or install msg or whatever08:01
alkisghellrazor: wait 10-20 secs, it's a big file (20 mb) to be parsed by bash08:01
hellrazoralkisg: it shoudl generate cpuload08:02
alkisgYes,it should...08:03
hellrazorit is definitely parsing08:03
hellrazorthen ends08:03
alkisgapt-cache and official-package-versions should take a lot of cpu in `top`08:03
alkisgDid it spit an apt-get install line?08:03
hellrazornope08:03
hellrazorit did not08:03
alkisgyokowka: I'll need to leave in a few minutes so I don't think I have time to walk you through this,wait for someone else08:03
alkisghellrazor: can you upload the big file to dropbox?08:04
alkisgapt-cache policy '.*' > /tmp/aptpolicy08:04
alkisgFrom the desktop pc08:04
lateniteHi, Is this the Ubuntu support channel?08:06
cfhowlettlatenite, yes it is.08:06
latenitecfhowlett, ok cool. How do I pose a question so I get an answer?08:09
cfhowlettlike this ^^^08:09
cfhowlett!ask08:09
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:09
Triffid_Hunterlatenite: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ;)08:09
hellrazoralkisg: Dekstop: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fb2pfbqful9963d/aptpolicy-desktop?dl=0  Laptop: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ozb9nkr0w8wxfz/aptpolicy-laptop?dl=008:09
cfhowlettTriffid_Hunter, the easy version ... https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf08:10
crc32in Ubuntu 17.10 metacity how do I get the left and bottom borders back in gnome-terminal?08:10
crc32its 2017 and its still a pain in the ass to get even 1 pixel borders to show up08:11
crc32i only see solutions for unity but non for metacity08:11
hellrazorcfhowlett: do-release-upgrade installs all these packages i do not want ... running xfce4/i3wm combo08:11
hellrazorand removes all the packages i want08:12
hellrazorand it would force thesystem to use systemd08:12
hellrazorsooo08:12
cfhowletthellrazor, yes, I was corrected on that earlier.  sorry for giving advice without the pertinent facts.08:12
alkisghellrazor: ah, I see the issue, apt in 14.04 doesn't show as candidate the version from the repository, so my script needs fixing. No time to do that now though, so if you don't fix it, ping me another day...08:13
lateniteQuestion: how do I start 'libvirtd' on Ubuntu 17? I can not find any systemd service files or scripts in /etc/init.d/08:13
hellrazorok at least i now know what the problem is08:13
hellrazorso i can somehow fiy it manually08:13
alkisghellrazor: you'd end up with an apt-get install lvm2=2.02.98-6ubuntu2 line, with the stock versions there08:14
* alkisg waves, later...08:14
hellrazoralkisg: there are a lot of packages08:14
alkisgYes, it would be a long line :)08:14
hellrazorwhich this issue applies to08:14
alkisgE.g. 50 packages in one line08:14
hellrazoraround 3008:15
alkisgYou can also do it manually... bb!08:15
hellrazorhm..08:15
hellrazori know08:15
hellrazorfixing script is better ^^08:15
lateniteHi folks, I am on 17.04 and there is no service file for libvirtd. Only a init.d script: https://gist.github.com/kaipoeritz/d059715c59161fb04b05be58c91f341008:20
lateniteWhy is that?08:20
akiklatenite: systemd includes sysv init compatibility08:20
lateniteI see lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun 21 17:33 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd08:20
lateniteso why are the services not managed by .service files?08:21
lateniteakik, I know systemd can handle sysv stuff. But why is Ubuntu not providing the service files in the packages?08:21
akiklatenite: i guess your guess is as good as mine08:22
lateniteakik, maybe efford was missing to write the files?08:27
akiklatenite: do you have /lib/systemd/system/libvirt-bin.service?08:27
HuskarHi! I've updated to 17.10 yesterday, and since ubuntu closes all open applications if it goes into standby....... I dont know where I can configure this.08:28
crc32is there a schema file for metacity-theme-1.xml cause this invisible border crap sucks08:30
sirru5hHey is anyone else having issues with 17.10 and synaptic ?08:32
crc32suspend worked for me. I wonder if its an ACPI bug08:34
sirru5hJust wondering if anyone here has had issues with synaptic ( yes I am using sudo)08:43
lateniteakik, I made a mistake. I was wrong. I have /lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service08:44
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lateniteakik, I am sorry08:44
supayhey guys. how do i go about fixing unmet dependencies? i'm unable to install vlc media player :( i have googled and tried a couple of solutions, but nothing seems to fix this. please help! this is what the error looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792181/08:51
sirru5hsupay, what version of ubuntu ?08:54
supaysirru5h: 16.0408:55
supaysirru5h: and the funny thing is, i'm trying to find which package(s) is/are broken, but can't08:55
supaysuper weird tbh08:56
hellrazorbroken packages are bad08:56
hellrazori am just forced to cleanup stuff manually not really a pleasure here...08:56
supayhellrazor: yeah. but i can't seem to find what's broken. that's my biggest problem08:57
hellrazorapt-cachy policy packagename?08:59
hellrazorin your case vlc08:59
crc32for real how do you get a 1px border for gnome terminal. I'm using metacity on ubuntu 17.10.09:00
xtronall the ubuntu versions share the same version of a package (for example gcc) or it is some thing update with ubuntu upgrade ?09:01
supayhellrazor: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25792233/09:01
crc32this is bullshit. Why does ubuntu keep pushing borderless windows09:03
supayany help guys?09:11
Ben64supay: apt-cache policy vlc browser-plugin-vlc libgles1-mesa libgles1 libgles2-mesa libgles209:13
supayBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792304/ :)09:14
hellrazori must say i reallly really starting to hate ubuntu right now09:15
supayhellrazor: me too, and i've only had it one day :D09:16
supayi'm pretty sure i fcuked up. but ubuntu is not making this easy09:16
hellrazordude i am currently manually reinstalling packages...09:16
Ben64supay: sudo apt install libgles2-mesa09:18
supayBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792318/  :(09:19
hellrazorsupay: manually downgrade the package in question09:20
supayBen64: it just goes on and on09:20
supayhellrazor: what do you mean?09:20
Ben64don't do that09:21
hellrazorapt-cache policy libgles2-mesa09:21
supayhellrazor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792324/09:21
hellrazorthats fine09:22
hellrazorapt-cache policy libglapi-mesa09:22
hellrazor@ supay09:23
supayhellrazor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792337/09:23
Ben64supay: apt-cache show libglapi-mesa vlc09:23
cfhowlettmight I suggest you NOT rush out to install new versions as soon as they drop.  most of the bugs and annoyances you see in the fresh release are fixed by the first point release, e.g. 17.10.109:23
hellrazoriam going crazy to fix this 14.04..09:24
supaycfhowlett: so i upgrade?09:24
Ben64supay: no09:24
pirayehttps://gist.github.com/purplelive/f9ddc50a5ca6cd2ec7a87272c3328697 can anyone help with this problem?09:24
Ben64supay: run the command i gave09:24
supayBen64: thank god. i didn't want to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792345/09:25
Ben64looks like you found a problem with vlc09:26
supayBen64: no, you did. i have no clue what these commands are doing09:27
supayso i can't get vlc? :(09:27
supayany other media player you guys suggest for ubuntu?09:27
Ben64mplayer2 / mpv09:27
supayalright. cool09:28
Ben64i'd recommend those over vlc anyway09:28
supaywhoa, really?09:28
Ben64yeah mplayer2 and mpv are both really great (and based on the same source code)09:29
Ben64also mplayer but idk if that's really been updated much09:29
supayalright. awesome09:31
supayand maybe you can report the bug to vlc and get a bounty! :D09:31
supayin BITCOINS09:31
Ben64well it would be more of a packaging error09:31
Ben64so not vlc's fault09:31
francishello09:32
hellrazorohh for fucks sake09:34
hellrazori the future never use proposed repo...09:34
cfhowletthellrazor, language!  family friendly at all times.  thank you.09:34
hellrazorcfhowlett: oh didn't know that was a rule here, i apologize09:35
cfhowlettgo forth and sin no more.09:35
francisany hardcore programmers here? I wanted to learn from you guys!09:36
cfhowlettthis isn't channel for that, francis.  There are dedicated channels09:37
hellrazorhm.. am i glad i do have selections list from dpkg so i can downgrade and then redo everything09:37
francis:) ok09:37
wudo_honourhave any body know the google onion address?09:38
wudo_honourI have found that. for. a long time09:39
pirayecan anyone help https://paste.pound-python.org/show/PecUBp7bACMvvgUr7XTA/ i have this problem09:42
overbuhqq09:45
hellrazorgood god i have packages spooking around from saucy...09:46
hellrazoromg wheezy packages09:48
cfhowlettwhat the heck did you do to your sources??09:49
hellrazorhow more back in time can i go, seriously09:49
hellrazorcfhowlett: well this system has had a few release upgrades behind it09:49
hellrazoritsmostly old stuff leftover unused so far09:49
cfhowlettunderstood but it should not  be retaining old sources as that *will* break things09:49
hellrazorcfhowlett: thats clear, i just found one package installed from wheezy09:50
cfhowlett:)09:50
hellrazorno clue how that survivied09:50
hellrazorcfhowlett: its a shame that you actually loose your own package selection when doing a release upgrade09:52
hellrazorrolling release would be sooo much better09:52
hellrazoralso this now makes total sense that i am having strange feect on some programmes09:54
hellrazorwhy the hell does wine actually needs samba09:56
hellrazoras dependency09:56
hellrazorsign09:56
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dipankarjainJOIN #opendaylight-spectrometer09:57
hellrazorfinally09:57
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FManI have a question10:14
MonkeyDustFMan  let's hear it, in one line10:15
FManI installed git and git-man provides the manual page, but then there is a suggested package git-doc, which "provides the documentation" - wat? is it an info page or sth?10:15
alexashow to restore to default all of the network settings and protocols?10:16
Ginnhey guys, whats up?10:16
Ginncan I ask a question please?10:16
alexasGinn: I suggest you ask and don't ask to ask.10:18
Ginnthanks alexas10:18
Ginni didn't know if I was allow to10:18
Ginnso, I'm customizing Ubuntu for school, it's a project.10:19
GinnI wanted to make my start menu organized10:19
Ginnlike this: http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/zorinos_startmenu.jpg?x9732710:20
Ginnis that possible on Unity - Ubuntu?10:20
Ginn16 LTS.10:20
gepanwho has alternatives tools?10:21
Thunder_TwGinn:  technically it's possible to change the menu like that. practically it looks like KDE10:23
Ginnand how?10:23
gepanRaspberry pie does not have this tool10:23
Ginni didn't want swap to KDE10:23
FMan1988is there a command for apt-cache that lists files in a package?10:24
gepanwhere are you from?10:24
Thunder_Twwe are aliens from the planet 4210:25
gepanoh me too10:25
gepanGinn where are you from?10:26
gepanNo Kidding10:26
MonkeyDustgepan  confine yourself to ubuntu support questions10:28
daedelothnvidia drivers give me weird artifcats when watching netflix10:28
daedelothanyone else encountered similar issues?10:29
daedeloth17.10 ofcourse10:30
daedelothactually nouveau also does some weird things but less notifcable10:33
gepanUbuntu mate does not have a alternative tool,what should i do?10:34
gepanCan anyone answer that?10:36
ddoobbWhy is LibreOffice still at 5.2 in the repos while on their website it says 5.4 (I have 5.4 on Windows as well). How can I download latest version?10:38
MonkeyDustddoobb  for anything outside the repos, you need a .deb or a ppa or so, but that's not supported here10:38
MonkeyDustddoobb  as for the 'why' question : #ubuntu-offtopic10:39
daedelothgood ol' x11 seems to work like a charm :)10:39
akikgepan: update-alternatives is provided by dpkg10:39
ddoobbSo is LibreOffice out of date on linux because of their devs?10:39
daedelothoh, no, lauched too soon. x11 has same problems10:39
gepanakik:this tool does not exist either10:43
akikgepan: all ubuntu installations have dpkg10:46
xtronversion of packages installed depends on ubuntu version or <sudo apt-get upgrade> or repo ???10:48
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xtronclear10:50
gepanakik:thank you10:53
akikgepan: these are command line tools10:54
xtrondoes my software version depends on ubuntu version or <sudo apt-get upgrad>???10:56
akikxtron: i don't understand what you're asking about10:56
alexaswhat is the main difference between Ubuntu 16 and 17?10:58
xtronakik: i'm using ubuntu 12 lts, so my packages are tied with that version of ubuntu or I can fetch the latest version when I do <sudo ... upgrade>??10:58
akikxtron: ubuntu 12.04 has its versions of packages and 14.04 has its versions of packages10:59
akikwho was it that decided that ubuntu versions are referred to with only 12, 14, 16, 1710:59
Nedextron sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade10:59
brainwash!12.0410:59
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) was the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 28th 2017. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2017-April/003833.html for more information10:59
MonkeyDustalexas  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes?_ga=2.164754559.173965384.1508665886-963562356.150866588611:00
xtronNede: akik isn't ubuntu repos are same for all versions of ubuntu11:01
akikxtron: repository servers are the same, the package versions differ11:02
sim642My laptop suddently gets "Destination not reachable" on my home wifi (associated) which works on my desktop. I don't understand why11:02
Nedextron: one example for repo is: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial main restricted universe multiverse11:03
Nedextron: this is for 16.04 LTS11:03
sim642It worked for a few seconds after restart, firefox loaded some sites, but then fails again11:03
xtronNede: so this is restricted for a specific version?11:03
Nedextron: yes, note the code name xenial=16.0411:04
Nedextron: your 12.04 is precise11:04
tomreynxtron: the important meassage you should not ignore is that your system (originally released in 2012) is now unsupported because it wasn't upgraded in time.11:04
Nedextron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases11:05
xtronNede: what if I want to update my repos to the latest available ubuntu, or this is question doesn't make sense?11:05
Nedextron: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade11:05
Thunder_Twthats a big command11:06
tomreyn!eolupgrade11:06
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:06
tomreynxtron: ^11:06
xtronNede: but the <sudo release-up..> will update my ubuntu, right?11:06
Nedextron: yes. 12.04 to 14.0411:07
tomreynNede: it may not work out this easily11:07
xtrontomreyn: actually I'm not worried about EOF and security unless a lightweight linux keep this hardware alive... <old core i3 2nd gen>11:07
tomreynNede: 12.04 sources are now on old-releases, he may have outdated versions within 12.04 already.11:08
tomreyn(such as of the do-release-upgrade utility)11:08
Nedetomreyn: yes.......your right!11:09
Nedextron: otherwise save your data and install a new clean version11:09
Nede12.04 is very very old release...11:09
xtrontomreyn: i'm not getting you guys, I think for Ubuntu 12.04 lts my packages are up to date11:10
xtronI think this is quit light OS for older hardware rather than 16.x which heats-up this machine11:11
tomreynxtron: 12.04 stopped being up to date in march. and you probably do not even have pakcages from back then and won't get them unless you upgrade. again, your release is unsupported. upgrade as discussed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades or reinstall. after that, you can get support here again.11:11
Ginnok guys11:12
Ginni installed ClassicMenu11:12
tomreynxtron: (you can also get support here with upgrading as discusse don the wiki but not anything else for 12.04)11:12
Ginnany possible way to change Unity to ClassicMenu11:12
tomreynGinn: unity comes with the dash. you can add a menu by installing classicmenu-indicator or you can switch to a different desktop environment.11:14
Ginnwhat do you recommend tomreyn?11:15
GinnMATE?11:15
tomreynGinn: i recommend you try a couple different desktop environments and pick the one you like best.11:15
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kostkonxtron, you need to upgrade to a supported release11:16
tomreyn!desktops | Ginn11:16
ubottuGinn: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors11:16
tomreyn!flavors | Ginn11:16
ubottuGinn: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours11:16
Thunder_TwGinn, i would recomend Mate for what you are attempting11:17
tomreynGinn: you can switch between any desktop environments you have installed by selecting them on the login screen11:17
GinnI installed GNOME11:20
GinnIt makes the job done11:20
airjumpHi11:31
sirru5hHello Everyone11:38
sakhdHas anybody encountered troubles with key combinations in Ubuntu 17.10? I described trouble here https://askubuntu.com/questions/967550/in-ubuntu-17-10-key-combinations-like-ctrl-shift-alt-dont-work11:39
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yokowka_hello everysoul11:41
sirru5hsakhd, they seem to work alright for me but did you just upgrade as well?11:42
sakhdsirru5h, upgrade, right11:43
sirru5hI did it as well tonight sakhd I think I just resolved my issue11:44
yokowka_who can help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25792738 how to fix it?11:44
sirru5halthough to be honest poping xhost +si:localuser:root everytime I start up is gonna have to be a cron job11:44
cerionhi. I got no notifiation to upgrade to 17.10, yet. Do you ?11:45
sakhdcerion, yes, it was11:45
moukoublenHi all. I have a question. Why do we have gedit 3.22.1 and gnome-terminal 3.24 in 17.10? Since we have pure gnome 3.26 in 17.10 now why ubuntu still keeps these two in separated version? Why this "brake" in gnome version ing?11:46
brainwashmoukoublen: bug 172141211:56
ubottubug 1721412 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-terminal to 3.26.1" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172141211:56
brainwashmoukoublen: gedit in debian is stuck at version 3.22 also11:58
brainwashmoukoublen: 3.22 is actually the latest version https://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/tree/NEWS12:00
brainwashthere you have it12:00
moukoublenThanks :).12:02
brainwashyou're welcome :)12:05
moukoublenSo the only "issue" is the gnome-terminal. In which due to a custom ubuntu (?) patch to vte, both vte and gnome-terminal were held back12:05
brainwashI guess so12:05
moukoublencool12:05
sjdn!isitout12:07
ubottuYes!12:07
sjdnso, unity and left-aligned titlebar buttons are now officially dead?12:08
nullifidianhi, Anyone knows how to add default exec permissions to automounting USB hdds in 16.04?12:09
BluesKajHowdy folks12:09
akiksjdn: in the old gnome version it was possible to change the button layout. have you checked whether it's possible in the new gnome version?12:10
akiksjdn: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234838112:12
akikso it seems it is possible12:13
carmackHi! How to upgrade system from 17.04 to 17.1012:18
carmackFrom tty12:18
bsnsi guess it should be : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:19
bsnsi reinstall the ubuntu with the gui12:20
sirru5humm there is a bit more than just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:23
pavlushkahow to add the local/home path to ibus input system so that ibus could recognize some mim files from my home folder12:23
carmacksirru5h: oh yeah :D12:23
sirru5hcarmack, sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade followed by sudo apt-get install update-manager-core thendo-release-upgrade -d12:24
sirru5hdid do-release-upgrade -d12:24
sirru5hGosh I hate forgetting the space bar  : /12:25
sirru5hcarmack, https://askubuntu.com/questions/909323/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-ubuntu-17-10-upgrade12:26
sirru5hbrb guys wish me luck reboot see if the new configs work12:27
Thunder_Twis there a way to differentiate the amatuers from official supporters?12:27
Thunder_Twon this irc chanel12:27
sjdnofficial supporters are in canonical12:28
Thunder_Twso everyone here is giving and taking some random dude's advice on Ubuntu? failsafe12:30
sjdnit's open source for you12:30
akikThunder_Tw: did someone give you wrong advice?12:31
Thunder_Twakik: no, i'm just wondering12:32
akikThunder_Tw: this is volunteer help. that's it12:32
Thunder_Twakik: <3 that it still works with volunteers, things go so easily bad in the world but that's off-topic here12:34
sjdnwhat does "dfsg" in the package names mean?12:35
ioriaDebian Free Software Guidelines.12:36
sjdnand what does _that_ mean?12:37
ioriahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines12:37
gepanyou zhong guo ren ma ?12:37
sjdni want to know what does it have to do with packages12:37
sirru5hAlright that seems to have worked12:38
akik!cn12:38
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw12:38
ioriathen read it12:38
Thunder_Tw!nl12:39
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl12:39
sjdni'll try to make myself more clear. what was changed in the package so it got the dfsg tag?12:40
ioriaapt-get changelog pkg, and find out12:41
ioriausually, a pkg  stripped of any files that doesn't follow the guidelines12:42
ogra_sjdn, the source of the upsteam project has been modified to be able to split bits considered "not free enough" by these guidelines into a separate package ...12:42
sjdni see12:43
ogra_sjdn, s that the main package can i.e. be shipped on a CD iso without any probems12:43
ogra_s/s/so/12:43
yengashello guys. im trying to install lubuntu to my friends laptop. it always hangs when installing the grub loader. i tried creating partitions manually(gpt table, efi/fs/swap partitions) and auto installing. both hanged when installing grub loader. i also tried installing grub manually with live cd after the hang. but it hanged with livecd aswell.12:43
yengashttps://image.ibb.co/cdEGMR/IMG_20171022_150100.jpg here is a picture. bios doesnt have legacy boot, its uefi and the secure boot is disabled. why the hack does it hang?12:44
ioriayengas, what version of lubuntu ?12:45
yengas16.04.312:45
ioriayengas, are you connected while installing ?12:45
yengasioria, yes i am both when doing the install with live cd, and with the installer. updates are disabled.12:46
ioriayengas, you can boot in 'try' mode and paste  sudo parted -l12:47
ioriayengas,  or you can run  sudo ubiquity --no-bootloader   and install grub after12:48
yengasyou can see the partition in the image i sent. after the hang, i restarted and started the pc with livecd. followed some instructions to install grub-efi manually and it hang at the terminal aswell.12:49
sirru5hmmm is it an HP?12:53
yengassirru5h: yes12:53
sirru5hlol ;)12:53
Thunder_Twlike you could smell that commin12:53
yengasoh wait its acer :|12:53
yengasacer es 1512:53
sjdnok i've upgraded to 17.10 and now my fonts look awful12:53
sjdnthey are not hinted at all12:54
sirru5hI had tons of issues with my HP I had to disable EUFI then installed a normal install12:54
sirru5hhmm acer how old approximately ?12:54
sirru5hif you got a model number that could help as well12:54
yengasAcer ES1-533-C8WC12:55
sirru5hyengas, give me a minute to do a bit of research12:57
BluesKajyengas, do you still have W10 installed or did you wipe it off?12:58
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yengasBluesKaj, windows installs without any problems with the disk i have.12:59
yengasbut its currently wiped off12:59
BluesKajyes I did the same :-) , then I disabled UEFI and GPT which was a mistake, so followed that tutorial I posted in ##linux and restored UEFI and GPT and then Kubuntu installed very easily13:02
BluesKajon my Lenovo G500 laptop13:02
sirru5hyengas, I got a couple of links for ya https://askubuntu.com/questions/862946/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-acer-aspire-es1-533   then  https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/471754/acer-aspire-es-15-es1-533-c3uw-legacy-bios-missing13:03
sirru5hHowdy there BluesKaj13:05
BluesKajHi sirru5h13:06
sirru5hYou heard anything about 17.10 launching a GUI from the terminal getting "Protocol not specified"13:08
sirru5hin xorg I don't get that error13:09
yengassirru5h: sorry for making you do the googling for me. never thought it would be something specific to this laptop... my bad for not googling with the model. advices seem promising i will try the instructions.13:11
yengasthanks...13:11
sirru5hyengas, it's all good always here to help13:11
akikyengas: i also have an acer laptop but it has a different problem. i can't edit the uefi boot list with efibootmgr, have to do it in uefi setup13:12
svetanikola201316-04 lts latest fresh on a brand new ssd  man i love ubuntu13:13
svetanikola2013did anyone mess around with conky manager and conky in general on unity?13:15
svetanikola2013any opinions13:15
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sirru5hsvetanikola2013, mmm I have it on my 17.04 netbook13:16
sirru5hwhich uses unity13:16
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kinghello13:17
svetanikola2013so is it working ok haven't truyed it out yet thats why i am asking13:20
svetanikola2013just did the install and imported some themes althou i need more13:21
sirru5hYeah it's working fine13:21
sirru5hand that netbook is very old btw13:21
kingI  want to study  english13:21
svetanikola2013sirru5h thanks will truy it if u have any link for extra themes it would be usefull13:22
kinghehe13:22
king大家好13:23
akikking: this is not a channel to learn english13:24
akik!cn13:24
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sirru5hsvetanikola2013, I am sorry I don't I only use it with that one machine it's super basic13:24
sirru5hWell cya everyone13:25
rullieregarding the freeze situation on 17.10/wayland/nvidia card, it seems to be correlated to Flash13:30
jeanjackhi there13:35
jeanjackI have a question about lightdm and vnc ( i use tightvncserver )13:35
vitalkanevjeanjack: Well hello there13:35
jeanjackwhat i want do : having the same display with my screen ( VGA, physical ) and my vnc client13:36
jeanjackwhat i tryed : configure lightdm to serve vnc. It's ok, it works but don't use the :0 display13:37
jeanjackso i forced with the command parameter in lightdm configuration13:38
jeanjackcommand=Xvnc :013:38
jeanjackbut in ps i saw something that start with Xvnc :0 :1 ...13:39
jeanjackdoes it speeks to someone ? Am I in the right way ? kind of lost now13:43
flughafen_im trying to boot from usb the 17.10 on a really old intel q9550 and an asus p5q motherboard.  should this "just work"  when trying to boot a usb stick?13:47
vitalkanev@flughafen_, This could work because CPU has 2.83 GHz. How much RAM you have?13:49
flughafen_vitalkanev: 8gb13:51
flughafen_9600gt nvidia card13:52
flughafen_vitalkanev: i want to run retropie13:52
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VlanXHello, any suggestion for how being able to recover the ability to make the terminal appera with ctrl+alt+T after upgrading to 17.10 ?  It seems broken...14:00
flughafen_vitalkanev_: i got it to boot. it was sutpid. in the bios i set it to boot from first, but it would just sit there, then i found i could hit f8 during the biuos  and select the usb stick and it's booting14:02
rullieVlanX: ctrl shift t14:05
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VlanXrullie: not working... also, I'm not able to change speakers volume with the hard keys on my keyboard as I used to :(14:07
flughafen_is there no way to pick packages during install? or just do a minimum install?14:08
ducasseflughafen_: use the server or lubuntu alternate images, those allow you to select packages14:12
hellrazorhi all14:14
hellrazorgot a issue with a machine of mine14:14
hellrazordpkg -set-selections < list && apt-get deselect-upgrade does not work14:14
yengasrunning apt install grub-efi-amd64 automatically starts installing grub. is there parameters i can pass apt so it wont start installing the grub?14:15
GeoHi, when running apt-get update:  "W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security Release' does not have a Release file." along with several others of the same genre... any thoughts as to why? fresh install14:16
yengasor can i pass extra params to grub installation. i need to pass --no-nvram14:16
brokendnsI upgraded to 17.10, and now my dns is broken.  I think the problem is something to do with systemd-resolved continuing to use the wrong dns server, but I can't find the correct way to configure it14:16
brokendnsif I use systemd-resolve --flush-cache ping gets the correct ip the first time14:17
brokendnsbut the second, and all following pings use the wrong dns14:18
lidongdoes anyone use Browser on Ubuntu? it can not play videos, how can i solve it?14:18
MortyTSwhy do i get an EFI shell when i boot after installing kubuntu? i gotta exit it before i can actually boot14:18
airjumpHello14:19
lidonghello14:20
brokendnsOk, I found a work-around - Cache=no in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf seems to make things sane again.14:21
EriC^^MortyTS: pastebin "sudo efibootmgr -v"14:21
brokendnsIs systemd-resolve just broken?  should I remove it?14:21
brokendns(is systemd broken and should be removed :)14:22
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iATRHello everyone14:36
MortyTSEriC^^: "EFI variables are not supported on this system."14:37
EriC^^MortyTS: set your bios to boot in legacy mode only, without uefi14:37
iATRDoes anyone have experience running a usb with persistence on a Mac?14:39
iATRI have had a very hard time with this14:39
MortyTSalright will try that14:41
amosbirdHi, is there a way to add readline key bindings to all qt input boxes?14:41
ducasseamosbird: by rewriting qt to rely on readline, i would think14:44
iATRHas anyone used Parrot OS14:45
ducasseiATR: try asking in ##linux14:45
daveomcdI just updated to ubuntu 17.10 how can I enable hidpi support? Or if its already enabled by default how do i make my UI larger?14:47
Sven_vBdoes anyone know a list of which packages ship on the xenial livecd?14:48
Sven_vBis there any chance a package from universe could be on a livecd?14:52
ikonianope14:53
MortyTSEriC^^: i don't see an option to boot in legacy mode (MSI mobo bios). but i don't see the EFI shell anymore if i put boot priority for the hard drive over uefi, is that effectively the same thing?14:55
EriC^^MortyTS: yup14:55
Sbur3Looking for help accessing agovernment site for a scolarship.  Going in circles.  Anyone wanna help?15:02
ducasseSbur3: what do you mean by "accessing"?15:05
Sbur3I'm gonna give you the URL.  Sorry, but it's in French15:06
Sbur3ducasse: http://www.allocations-etudes.cfwb.be/index.php?id=241915:06
michuczesc15:07
Sbur3ducasse: I have three young people in our best friend's family looking to renew an application for a scolarship15:07
Sbur3ducasse: But it refuses to let them in15:07
Sbur3ducasse: When I click on the right thing (Cerbere), I get here ...15:08
Sbur3ducasse: https://secure.etnic.be/nidp/idff/sso?id=62&sid=1&option=credential&sid=1&target=https://prd-mag-cluster1.etnic.be/LAGBroker?%22https://www.users.cfwb.be/IDMProv/portal/cn/DefaultContainerPage/SelfAffiliationRequest?aff=RERzbTJ3bUtvRmo0SDJpMCtIK1JVUGlqSHU2M0pqUkRNcCtkVWgycHNnUT0NCg%2215:08
Sbur3And the period for applying is coming close to an end15:09
masceraderDoes anybody know how to use pppoe in the ubuntu net installer? I tried "install modules=ppp-udeb" in the boot installer and it doesn't work.15:09
Sbur3ducasse: You know, filling out the application on a web site rather than the paper option.15:10
ducasseSbur3: have you gotten that card reader working on ubuntu at all?15:11
Sbur3ducasse: My eid reader thing works perfectly15:12
Sbur3file:///home/steve/Desktop/Misc.eid15:13
Sbur3ducasse: My reader works, but I'm not even sure that it is a problem with the card reader15:14
armegedenis there any way to view an MP4's meta data via CLI?  like title, comments, etc?15:15
MortyTSis it possible to break a system by installing/updating too many things simultaneously and without rebooting after important updates?15:15
ducasseSbur3: i get a login box from that second link, i'm still trying to make sense of the french. where do you actually get stuck?15:15
ducassearmegeden: try mediainfo15:16
EriC^^MortyTS: no15:16
armegedenducasse, is that an apt install?15:16
popschis there any program that displays a large visual banner that maximizes the text but still displays everything in one line? doesn't have to be command line. figlet and toilet don't adjust the font to fit the whole space.15:16
Sbur3ducasse: It doesn't seem to recognize the stuff that is given as identificant15:16
ducassearmegeden: it's in the repo, yes. there's a gui version as well.15:17
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ducasseSbur3: i honestly think you should wait until stuff opens tomorrow and contact their support, if that is an option at all15:18
armegedenducasse, ty for the tip, but "exiftool" actually shows Title, Comment, etc.  mediainfo shows a lot of audio/visual details, but no other15:24
armegedenthanks again15:24
mehdihi15:29
laszlowatyHi guys. I have problems with using xscreensaver under ubuntu 17.10. It seems that even if I have installed xscreensaver and it's extras I still cannot get it running.15:29
laszlowatyps aux | grep screensaver15:29
laszlowatygdm       1115  0.0  0.0 276808  5100 tty1     Sl+  paź21   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-screensaver-proxy15:29
laszlowatylaszlo    1491  0.0  0.0 276808  4700 tty2     Sl+  paź21   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-screensaver-proxy15:29
laszlowatylaszlo   11565  1.5  0.1 613216 31972 tty2     Sl+  17:28   0:00 xscreensaver-demo15:29
laszlowatylaszlo   11580  0.2  0.0  79260  5252 tty2     S+   17:28   0:00 xscreensaver -nosplash15:29
laszlowatyand under xscreensaver-demo I got message 'locking not enabled'15:31
ducasse!paste | laszlowaty15:31
ubottulaszlowaty: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:31
JanClaszlowaty: are you using Wayland or Xorg?15:31
laszlowatyI guess wayland is default in 17.10, so wayland15:32
JanCI don't think xscreenserver works on wayland?15:33
laszlowatyOh, I didn't know that, thanks.15:33
JanCI'm not 100% sure, but as the _x_ at the start is from _X_ Window System...15:34
Guy1524Hey guys, I have an NVIDIA optimus laptop, and the new 4.10.0-37 kernel completely breaks NVIDIA support on my laptop.  Even after completely reinstalling the lastest (nvidia-387) drivers15:41
cristian_cGuy1524: 17.04?15:44
Guy1524no, 16.0415:44
cristian_c16.04.3?15:44
JanClaszlowaty: from what I understand, you should be able to run xscreensaver with help of XWayland--but if it locks the screen you might not be able to unlock it...15:50
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Guy1524chachasmooth_: yes15:56
cristian_cGuy1524: dpkg -l | grep hwe15:58
cristian_c!paste  Guy152415:59
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luxioIs there a way to see the terminal when booting up instead of the purple screen?15:59
Guy1524k16:01
Guy1524http://paste.ubuntu.com/25794885/16:01
jac76I have an old netbook that I am installing Lubuntu on.  The only problem I haven't been able to solve is the screen resolution.  Everything I read says that the video chip isn't well supported and that's why I'm having problems.16:01
Guy1524cristian_c: ^16:01
Guy1524jac76: which chip16:02
luxiojac76: What's the output of `vdpauinfo`?16:02
jac76And I do find that the video device is "UNCLAIMED",  However, the live cd managed to set the correct resolution, why can't the installed software do so as well?16:02
ducasseluxio: edit /etc/default/grub, remove 'quiet splash' and run update-grub16:04
jac76The video chip is "CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC]16:04
jac76A VIA chip set16:04
cristian_cGuy1524: dpkg -l | grep nvidia16:04
bizolosHi there. I have a strange issue. I'm connected to wifi in a café. I can only connect to facebook and google with my browser. I can't even ping google.com in my bash.16:04
bizolosI could go to http://www.ipv6-test.com/ (one of the only websites that work) and it says ipv6 is working but ipv4 is unsupported16:05
bizolosWhen I connect with my android, everything works and the website says the opposite ipv4 working and ipv6 not supported16:05
Guy1524cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25794914/16:05
bizolosI'm connected now through network sharing, with my android, to be able to talk to you -_-16:05
bizolosAny idea what's going on?16:06
ikoniabizolos: talk to the cafe16:06
bizolosWell, I guess the waiters don't give a shit about my ipv6 problem that only happen on my ubuntu and not on my android16:06
ikoniabizolos: tone down the language16:07
ikoniathere is no need for it and it's not welcome16:07
bizolosSeems all mac and windows users around me don't have any problem16:07
bizolosSorry ikonia16:07
jac76The environment that the Live-CD loads also sees the display device as "UNCLAIMED" and uses the "default" display in VGA mode.  However, that VGA mode supports about 10 different display resolutions while the "installed" VGA default resolution is limited to 640x480 only.16:07
bizolosIt was not said in an agressive way16:07
ikoniait doesn't matter if it's agressive or not, we don't need to see it, no problem though,16:08
bizolosSure16:08
cristian_cGuy1524: apt-cache policy nvidia-38716:08
jac76What files can I pull from the Live-CD environment and put into the "installed" environment to give the "default" VGA mode the same 10 resolution choices?16:09
ioriajac76, xserver-xorg-video-openchrome is installed ?16:09
jac76No16:09
jac76not in either environment16:10
Guy1524http://paste.ubuntu.com/25794980/16:10
cristian_cwhy not 384?16:11
jac76In my reading there is a problem with xserver-xorg-video-openchrome before a ".6" version and the version I see available is what seems to be a ".5" versioin.16:12
ioriajac76,  if it's a fresh install i'd try to install it, and configure xorg.conf   ( i mean set resolution)16:12
jac76iora, the bug with "openchrome" seems to be that it disables the WiFi and I'd prefer not to do that.16:14
ioriajac76,   can you provide the bug's link ?16:15
jac76I just want the correct configuration files from the Live-CD environment, I'll copy them over, if I just knew which ones they were.16:15
jac76let me see if I can find the link to the bug16:15
crcrcrare there any channels where to discuss about hardware?16:18
lotuspsychjecrcrcr: on ubuntu?16:19
lotuspsychjeor general16:19
crcrcrgeneral, #linux is blocked16:19
TJ-crcrcr: ##hardware16:19
crcrcrthanks16:19
TJ-crcrcr: and it's ##linux16:19
jac76iora, here is the link to the page that discusses the "bug" with Chromedriver. https://askubuntu.com/questions/916212/hp-2133-lubuntu-chrome9-screen-driver-conflicts-with-wifi16:21
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ioriajac76,  do you have broadcom wifi chipeset ? or you have that exact hp model   ?16:24
jac76I have that exact hp model16:25
ioriaok16:25
lotuspsychjejac76: sudo lshw -C network can help16:26
ioriajac76,  1) you try anyway  to install the pkg  2) compile the .6 version  3) maybe you can use vesa16:26
jac76lotuspsychje, the networks in my "installed" environment are all working well.  I don't want to mess them up.16:26
jac76I just need the "default" VGA descriptor files from the Live-CD environment,  the Live-CD sees the display as "UNCLAIMED"  but the default VGA has 10 resolutions.  This has to be defined in a file somewhere.16:28
lotuspsychjejac76: that command wont mess up nothing, just to see wifi chipset/driver16:30
jac76Oh, I should say I'm working with 17.10 of lubuntu16:30
hellrazoralkisg: i fixed it manually was a little bit of pain but itworked thanks ;>16:31
ioriajac76,  try this :  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and fill in it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25795145/16:32
jac76lotuspsychje,  you are correct, the lshw command won't hurt anything, but I'm not having a problem with the network,... yet. The network devices are "BCM4311 802.11a/b/g" and "NetExtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet"16:34
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ioriathat's the cabled16:35
CoderEuropeHiya - where is the kubuntu community forum  localted ?16:35
lotuspsychje!kubuntu | CoderEurope16:35
ubottuCoderEurope: Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde16:35
CoderEuropeso it is on here ? is it safe ? http://kubuntu.org/ (its not " https;\\ "16:36
CoderEurope** [it is not https: )16:37
kostkonCoderEurope, https works fine on that url here16:38
CoderEuropehttps://kubuntu.org/ this one kostkon ?16:38
kostkonCoderEurope, yep16:39
CoderEuropeokay thank-you and caio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 okay16:39
kostkonfine16:39
jac76ioria,  I can try that, but the Live-CD doesn't have that "xorg.conf" file in it.  And it takes soooooo long to boot this thing back and forth between environments, once it running it fine, but booting... :(16:41
spadevhi16:45
iseneHow can I see what xft fonts I have on my system?17:08
kailifc-list | grep xft17:11
kailimaybe17:11
kailiHello anyway17:11
kailiI noticed something funny installing 17.10 today : it's possible to setup chinese input from the config panel on the livecd, but it's impossible once installed (pinyin input not showing up) !17:12
oerheks!kylin17:13
ubottuUbuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is an official part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin17:13
oerheksthat work is already done17:14
kailiI don't want Chinese distrib interface, just want to type Chinese, which is working immediatly on livecd, not once installed ;)17:15
kailiJust saying because it's funny and shouldn't be that way17:17
krytarikkaili: I'd certainly investigate on this further.17:18
jac76ioria, putting those four lines into the xorg.conf file did the trick.  Now I have the correct resolution and the output of a "xrandr -q" command in the "installed" environment is the same as in the Live-CD environment.  I have been busily reading the "DEVICE SECTION" of the man page on xorg.conf but nothing specifically about the 4 lines you provided is shown.  Is there a way to query the xorg environment settings?17:23
alkisghellrazor: cool, thanks for notifying; I'll fix my script for future use :)17:24
jac76Or does understanding the xorg environment require reading a 2 inch thick book and I should just shut up and be grateful?17:26
ioriajac76, what you mean exactly with 'query the xorg environment settings' ?17:27
jac76Something like the xrandr commands or the lshw command where I can query information about the parameters that are currently set.17:28
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ioriajac76, well, apart the man pages, there is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   (but don't run it, it's very complicated)17:31
Funeralanyone else have slow chrome after 17.10?17:32
jac76In another completely different question from display resolution.... what is the current "best practices" concerning loading (or not) a flash player into lubuntu?17:35
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Guest51298@jac76, I don't know about the official Ubuntu line, but since the wiki is a bit outdated, my take is to just install the official Adobe Projector since browsers are blocking flash now.17:36
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ioriajac76,  flash has been deprecated and stuff, idk if still on... the package is in  lubuntu-restricted-extras or in flashplugin-installer; alternatively you use adobe from canocical partner17:38
ioria*canonical17:38
lotuspsychjeFuneral: what graphics card?17:39
sirru5heww flash is dicey ... I think Adobe has a sticky on their website " Patched Flash 0day"17:39
ioriajac76,  enable canonical in sources.list , update and install adobe-flashplugin17:39
oerheksi am sure, flash will not work on "CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC], just 2d17:40
jac76Ok,  I think I'll skip flash for now, youtube doesn't use it any more.  Though I may had to have loaded chrome on my ubuntu system to get video on on CBS.COM to play.  I have to watch my NCIS show somehow. :)17:41
ioriaok, jetro17:42
jac76And as a complete non-sequitur.... what is this "nano" stuff?... doesn't anybody use "vi" anymore?17:44
nickdalysince launchpad repeatedly fails to log me in because of some server error, can someone report this bug against cxref's xenial universe package?  https://gitlab.com/snippets/168069617:44
ioriajac76, nano is simpler17:45
jac76When I first learned a BSD version of unix back in 89 it seemed like unix and vi were tied to each other and learning vi was a right of passage to your entry into the unix world.  Aaaahhhh for the days gone bye....  :)17:49
lotuspsychjenickdaly: a bug is pretty personal to gather your sysinfo, reccomended to bug yourself17:53
kc-860hola17:53
lotuspsychje!es | kc-86017:53
ubottukc-860: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:53
JordyThis tutorial doesn't make a DVD bootable? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-burn-a-dvd-on-windows17:54
oerheksJordy, a windows iso ? no17:55
JordyNo, a Ubuntu ISO17:56
JordyI burned the iso on the disk as described in that tutorial, used the boot manager and picked my DVD drive, it booted to my HDD.17:56
oerheksoh, maybe you need to set somethin in your bios to boot from dvd17:57
oerheksnormally, it would AFAIK17:57
JordyIt does boot from DVD with windows installation disks, but not the Ubuntu Live Disk I burned :/17:58
lotuspsychjeJordy: F12 at boot to choose startup items17:58
JordyOdd.17:58
JordyYes, that's what I did as I mentioned "boot manager"17:58
JordyI'll try Rufus now. *crosses fingers*17:58
Funerallotuspsychje: nvidia18:00
lotuspsychjeFuneral: can you test the same from the xorg session at login?18:01
Funeralill try18:02
iseneAfter upgrading from Ubuntu 17.04 to 17.10, my conky rendering suddenly has a one pixel gap between each line (See screenshot: http://isene.org/x/2017-10-22-195014_1042x519_scrot.png) - why? And how to fix?18:03
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mattycexit18:08
Thunder_TwxD18:09
geirhaisene: maybe the default font changed. Try changing the font conky uses18:13
hackerhi18:17
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hsiktaswhile updating 17.04 to 17.10 I got "dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.4-5ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):"18:18
hsiktascleaning apt's cache and redownloading it does not help18:18
jac76Jordy,  Although it won't make a difference on burning a CD/DVD I made a mistake when creating a bootable thumb drive for lubuntu.  I found an old thumb drive and to "clean/refresh" it I deleted the NTFS filesystem from it and created a FAT32 partition, as per instructions.  After it was formatted I used UNetbootin to "burn" the drive but when I tried to use it, it wouldn't boot!18:19
jac76So I downloaded the .iso again and checksummed it and "burned" to the thumb drive again and again it wouldn't boot.18:20
jac76It turned out that I forgot a very important thing when I used gparted to partition the drive,  to set the "boot" flag on that partition.18:21
tomreynhsiktas: please post the entire output to a pastebin18:23
tomreyn!paste | hsiktas18:23
ubottuhsiktas: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:23
mrchairmanI install 17.10 and there is no tasksel, how can I get it back???18:23
tomreynmrchairman: do you mean during or after installation?18:24
mrchairmanafter18:24
tomreyn!info tasksel 17.1018:25
ubottu'17.10' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakke18:25
tomreyn!info tasksel artful18:25
ubottutasksel (source: tasksel): tool for selecting tasks for installation on Debian systems. In component main, is optional. Version 3.34ubuntu9 (artful), package size 30 kB, installed size 244 kB18:25
tomreynmrchairman: install the package of the same name18:25
mrchairmantomreyn, E: Unable to locate package tasksel18:26
toni_dfsa18:28
toni_what18:28
toni_the18:28
Beardedhello ppl.  i  installed 17.10 & nvidia driver 384 but can't  login with wayland session... it redirects me back to login screen ... xorg works just fine. any ideas ?18:28
toni_fuck18:28
mrchairmantomreyn, i got it18:28
galileopyHello everyone, I'd like to know what should I know in order to debug an hdmi of an nvidia 960m port that seems to be broken.18:29
galileopyThe port doesn't work in either linux or windows, but I still have hope since changin my laptop right now is not a viable option.18:29
galileopyI've read that the main tools that I'd need to understand are udev, modprobe and the nvidia drivers, also reading the info in /sys/class/drm/card018:29
galileopyshould be usefull.18:29
galileopyWhat steps can I take in order to be certain that it is a hardware issue and not just some soft change made to the drivers?18:29
ikoniatoni_: stop with the language please18:29
galileopysorry, I wrote it on mousepad, didn't know that it would break the message on linebreaks18:29
ikoniagalileopy: if it's not working in linux or windows, I'd be questioning if it's actually working18:30
ikoniagalileopy: I'd also try to get it working with Windows first to confirm its working as the Linux drivers are better supported at a compatability level18:30
ikonia(or easier to be supported I think is a better description)18:31
galileopyHowever linux let's me read events and query more info from the board than windows18:31
Bashing-om!sound | galileopy18:31
ubottugalileopy: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.18:31
galileopyIt stopped working without any significant event's happening, and I suspect that somehow the port got disabled by linux, since the likelihood of it just break out of thin are seem small18:32
galileopys/are/air18:33
galileopyit doesn't show the hdmi output devices18:34
TJ-galileopy: the only way a port might be enabled is due to a bug in the motherboard's firmware ACPI18:34
TJ-galileopy: but if the port isn't working on a versions of Windows designed for that PC then that suggests a physical fault, such as solder fracturing18:35
galileopyok,that makes sense, I while trying to fix it I upgraded the firmware of the mother board, and since then udev doesn't tell me anything when I plug/unplug a monitor to the port18:36
TJ-galileopy: has the connector been stressed by an HDMI plug being manipulated too roughly?18:36
galileopyIt haven't I have it mounted on a desk and it lives there unbothered18:36
TJ-galileopy: One hope for you: 2 days ago a user with a similar problem found that an ACPI workaround made the HDMI port appear - but in that case Windows could see the port but Linux couldn't.  You could try the same workaround/fix18:37
galileopyI did consider a solder fracture, do you think I should open it and check the port and card with a microscope?18:37
galileopyDo you have a link TJ-?18:37
TJ-galileopy: read, and if you want to, apply the changes: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html18:37
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galileopyI did once changed my boot parameters to acpi_osi=!, you seem to be well versed with acpi, what does acpi_osi=! do?18:41
TJ-galileopy: it disables all the strings that Linux passes to the SCPI DSDT _OSI()18:42
TJ-galileopy: this fix does that and then ONLY passes a string that appears to be the most recent Windows XXXX version the DSDT supports18:42
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StoatrebellionHello to all18:43
ioria!ping18:45
ubottupong!18:45
galileopyohhh, ok nice18:45
ChunkzZ!isitoutyet18:46
ubottuYes!18:46
Fludixxhi18:47
aj_hello18:49
aj_exit18:50
galileopyTJ- is this normal? the added line reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\""18:50
galileopythe backlash there is something I haven't seen before18:50
littlejohnnyFludixx-18:50
galileopyshouldn't it be acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"?18:51
TJ-galileopy: that looks correct18:52
TJ-galileopy: that's to escape the following " so that the double-quote is actually inserted into the command line in /etc/grub/grub.cfg18:52
TJ-galileopy: it's needed due to the space in the "windows 2015" string, because command-line args are space-separate18:53
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galileopyI understand why it is needed, I just worry that the whole parameter is being escaped, \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\" vs acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"18:54
galileopywell I'll try it, is there any good readings on how /sys/class/drm works and what their files means?18:56
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laceylaneyHI guys. Booting from efi and nothing like grub ever appeared before. After a recent update I've started to see the grub menu appear on boot. Booting is now a tad slower than it was before. Any ideas why I'm now seeing the grub menu on boot ??19:05
strivelaceylaney: Seems to me an update changed your GRUB config.19:06
laceylaneyThanks for the heads up ^^ Any way to fix it so that it was like mefore ??19:06
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buuHey, in an xrandr line, what are the last 3 numbers?    3840x2160     30.00*+  59.94    29.97    23.9819:07
strivelaceylaney: I'm thinking /etc/default/grub will have some options.19:08
strivelaceylaney: I also think you'll need to run update-grub after changes you've made.19:10
pauchavaHello babies19:10
pauchavaHow can I download Mozilla in Ubuntu?19:10
Ben64mozilla what19:10
striveFirefox?19:11
pauchavaYep.19:11
Ben64sudo apt install firefox19:11
strive^19:11
pauchavaI deleted by error.19:11
pauchavadeleted it*19:11
Ben64how19:11
snkcldcan anyone help me understand why my bluetooth headphones always want to connect as hsp, but to get the a2dp to work i always have to disconnect then reconnect the headphones?19:11
TJ-snkcld: I'm not sure but "bluetooctl" might help understand what is going on there. It could be something to do with order of protocol discovery, or something in the Linux bluetooth configuration19:17
cerveiraI have Lubuntu and I've installed samba, but using PCManFM, when tring to access windows lan network, gives always timeout. I can access other device in linux, but not the devices in windows. Any ideia?19:17
Derpydragon34hi19:20
strivecerveira: You could try installing gvfs-backend.19:22
strivecerveira: On the client side that is.19:22
strivecerveira: Then, open your file manager and type ctrl+l and then typing smb://[ip of server]19:24
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cerveirastrive, gvfs-backends is already the newest version19:24
cerveirastrive, it gives timeout again19:25
cerveirai'v tried smb://user@ip/ and it asks me for the password, but it also ends on timeout19:26
strivecerveira: Run this: smbclient //hostname/sharename -U username19:26
strivecerveira: smb://ip only19:27
striveTry that.19:27
cerveiraI've tried that and the result was timeout19:27
striveDid you run that smbclient command?19:29
cerveirayes. result Connection to 192.168.1.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT)19:29
TJ-cerveira: firewall?19:31
strivecerveira: What distro is your samba server running on?19:31
strive192.168.1.1? Are you sure that isn't your default gateway? (router)19:32
cerveirastrive, i' have samba only on this laptop (lubuntu zesty)19:32
cerveirano, router is .25419:33
striveSo...what samba server are you trying to connect to?19:33
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TJ-Trying to connect to a Windows host I think19:34
ioriacerveira, the windows folder is shared ?19:34
strive^19:36
cerveiraioria, yes. I can access to the share folders in my windows laptop using my android smartphone and using raspberry with libreelec, but in Lubuntu it ends always in timeout...19:37
ioriacerveira, can you paste    smbclient -L  windowsPC-ip19:38
cerveiraTJ-, yes, i'm tring to connect from Lubuntu to a windows laptop19:38
TJ-cerveira: have you got local firewall rules set on the Lubuntu PC?19:39
ioriacerveira,  sudo ufw status19:40
cerveirahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25796509/19:40
littlejohnny.19:41
ioriacerveira,  bof19:41
ioriacerveira,  i see nothing19:41
ioriacerveira,  are you sure the win-lappy is 192.168.1.1 ?19:42
TJ-cerveira: can you reach the target with "ping 192.168.1.1"?19:42
cerveirayes I do19:42
ioriacerveira,  not always, but that is usually a router ip19:43
cerveiraTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25796532/19:43
tmuwahave you tried "nmap -sT 192.168.1.1" ?19:43
Tesla42https://forge.tine20.org/view.php?id=1350019:44
cerveiraioria, .1 is my windows laptop, lubuntu is .2 and raspberry with libreelec is .6. And in this last one I can access .1 without problems19:44
striveIs the Windows laptop your default gateway?19:45
cerveirano19:45
cerveiramy default gateway is .25419:45
striveThat's pretty odd..'19:45
striveType "route" please.19:45
cerveiranot in a techicolor router19:46
cerveiratechnicolor*19:46
cerveirai have to install nmap and net-tools19:47
TJ-cerveira: "ip route show default"19:47
ioriacerveira,  sudo nmap  -O 192.168.1.119:48
striveI would check to see if port 445 is open.19:48
cerveiraTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25796569/19:49
striveI guess so.19:49
strivecerveira: Is Network Discovery on?19:50
striveIn Windows.19:50
TJ-cerveira: as a test try "smbclient -b 1400 -L //192.168.1.1/"19:51
cerveiraport 445 is not open in windows19:52
TJ-aha !19:52
strivecerveira: Check that Network Discovery is on, port 445 or 139 are open, check share folder permissions, uhm..19:52
cerveiraso how can android and libreelec connect and lubuntu don't? that is what I don't understand19:53
khangeekI feel Ubuntu 17.10 is a bit buggy as compared to 16.0419:53
alkisgcerveira: also try putting the DNS in /etc/hosts: http://www.zero-effort.net/tip-of-the-day-protocol-negotiation-failed-nt_status_io_timeout/19:53
cerveirastrive, 139 is open in windows19:53
alkisg*the hostname19:53
strivealkisg: cerveira is using actual IPs19:54
Ben64khangeek: well 16.04 is LTS, and been around for 18 months. 17.10 came out 3 days ago so that makes sense19:54
alkisgstrive: smbclient might need reverse resolution19:54
alkisg*reverse lookup19:54
alkisgAnd the other clients might use wins or netbios or whatever19:55
ioriacerveira,  nmap output ?19:55
khangeekWhen can I expect bugs to be fixed?19:56
khangeekJust the DE bugs19:56
strivecerveira: Do you have cifs-utils installed?19:56
tmuwaexit19:57
khangeekbtw, I am facing an issue with ttf-mscorefonts-installer19:58
khangeekany fix? There is a bug for it on launchpad though.19:58
cerveirastrive, nmap results http://paste.ubuntu.com/25796662/19:59
cerveirai've just installed cifs-utils20:00
striveOk, just curious; are you able to connect using smb://ip20:01
cerveirastrive, I'm able to connect libreelec at .6 but not windows laptop at .120:01
striveOk, seems like it's a Windows thing.20:02
cerveiraBut i can connect .1 from libreelec and from a android phone20:02
octaviando I need something else for drag and drop feature on virtual box? I only have the virtualbox package installed20:23
octavianand it doesn't work20:24
octavianfrom host to guest20:24
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doug16kubuntu 17.10 upgrade screwed up my laptop. hangs at "[  OK  ] Started systemd-resolved-update-resolveconf.service"20:32
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`mistheya fellas, sitting here trying to do a release upgrade but running into the whole full boot partition issue. I've tried autoremove --purge and purge-old-kernels as well as apt-get clean20:51
`mistAny ideas where i should go from here?20:51
`mistI've tried following most tips posted here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition20:52
councill1rfirst time out using this form of chat. part of my homework from mintcast20:54
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Bashing-omCan not make out what your nick is mist .20:55
`mistits mist, with a ` infront heh20:55
councill1rcouncillor20:55
Bashing-om`mist, sorry, cannot see it in my font set . anyway pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . see what the story here is .20:56
kostkon`mist, also   df -h20:57
`miston it, brb20:57
`misthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25797099/20:58
Bashing-om`mist: " iU  linux-generic " with the meta package not installed, will have to rillout sleeves up and go to work . 1st is clear out the clutter run :' dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P ' .21:00
`mistdone21:02
darkadhi all, trying to boot but on "pentium 4" pc I read : isolinux.bin missing corrupted21:04
darkadI just put the iso 32 bit on usb21:04
darkadby using etcher21:04
Bashing-om`mist: K. now a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux-  ' . and we drop down to dpkg's level to remove old kernels . What is the booting kernel ' uname -r '? as we must not mess with the booting kernel .21:05
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`mistBashing-om: so one machine its 3.13.0-107-generic and on the other 3.13.0-108-generic21:06
kostkondarkad, it's corrupted. It says so. Try burning it again. Other apps to consider: rufus, unetbootin21:06
Bashing-om`mist: K, we do not mess with these kernels :)21:06
`misthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25797152/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797151/21:07
globe_TmpHi21:07
darkadkostkon, I suspect there is another kind of problem21:07
globe_Tmpi am running ubuntu xenial and trying to install etheruem21:07
darkadkostkon, but now I'll try with unebootin21:07
kostkon!verify | darkad, also, this21:07
ubottudarkad, also, this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:07
globe_Tmpfollowing https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/chapter1.html21:07
`mistglobe_Tmp: probably better ask in #ethereum or something like that21:08
`mistBashing-om: in case i forget to say later, thank you! =)21:08
darkadubottu, I verified21:08
globe_Tmp`mist: ok thanks21:08
Bashing-om`mist: You are not the 1st to be in this situation . gimme a bit to craft up the dpkg command .21:10
isenegeirha: I tried all kinds of fonts - same issue with all of them. I tried asking on #conky - but no answer.21:10
rootdsdsd21:10
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kostkon!root | Guest8690721:11
ubottuGuest86907: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo21:11
kostkonoops21:11
kostkon!rootirc21:12
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.21:12
scoopex*grmpf* i discovered that clipit (my clipboard manager tool) does not work with ubuntu 17.10/wayland/gnome does not work anymore correctly because hotkeys cannot be capured coorectly......is there a good clipboard manager for wayland/gnome?21:13
Bashing-om`mist: run : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image{,-extra}-3.13.0-{74,85,86,87,91,97}-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-{74,85,86,87,91,97}{,-generic} ' Advise when done and we continue.21:21
ghost__high all21:23
`miston both machines Bashing-om?21:23
TJ-kostkon: that root thing is a bit annoying; anyone working from containers will be operating as root21:24
`mistone machine said this https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h65vm9mBlsO21:24
Bashing-om`mist: If both machines have the 3.13.0-74,85,86,87,91,97, then yes, else adjust the command for the present kernels versions .21:24
`mistthe other21:25
darkadkostkon, with unetbotin it didn't work. Now I tried dd and after a sync command21:25
williamhola21:25
kostkonTJ-, interesting21:25
globe_tmp?21:27
globe_tmpanybody using ethereum21:27
kostkondarkad, ok. Does this happen with other isos as well?21:27
`mistso i adjusted to the first machine and it did remove some headers but it also vomited alot of scary stuff21:28
akikTJ-: you can have user accounts in containers as elsewhere21:28
`mistboot is currently at 31% and 44%. Should we continue or can i resume the system upgrade?21:29
darkadkostkon, with dd i have a bliking cursor21:29
Bashing-om`mist: Let's work one machine at a time as they do have differeing kernels .21:30
`mistok21:30
darkadkostkon, I had an old slackel on dvd and it works21:30
`mistso this is where we're at Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797299/21:31
kostkondarkad, is it Ubuntu or something lighter like Lubuntu?21:31
kostkondarkad, I doubt you'll easily manage to boot Ubuntu, 17.10 is it?, on a P421:31
darkadkostkon, it derived from slackware and it's lighter, but it's so old21:32
darkadkostkon, really?21:32
darkadkostkon, I'm trying the minimal ubuntu, I would start from console21:33
TJ-akik: you can but especially when working with unprivileged containers the default root inside it is the one we use21:33
doug16know I am getting a bunch of random "starting user manager for UID <various numbers> / Stopped user manager for <same number>" - followed by systemd-resolved-update-resolveconf.service hang21:33
kostkondarkad, so you are saying that Ubuntu minimal booted fine and gave you a terminal prompt?21:35
doug16k...and now it boots. about 3/4 chance for it to hang on boot at systemd-resolved-update-resolveconf.service :(21:35
ghost__reboot script class21:36
darkadkostkon, I'm trying 'to install' the Ubuntu Minimal but it didn't boot21:36
Bashing-om`mist: Hummm .. OK .. run ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{74,85,86,87,91}-generic " .21:36
kostkondarkad, ok21:37
akikdoug16k: that is a real service name? :o21:37
`mistthat did not go well at all Bashing-om21:37
`misthttps://thepasteb.in/p/LghNnxMBgQxUZ21:38
Bashing-om`mist: Well ! .. Ok .. show me what happened :)21:38
`mistsee thepasteb.in link above21:39
doug16kakik that's what the boot log is telling me, [  OK  ] followed by that. it says that just before it stops. it isn't froze though, keystrokes put crap on the screen and ctrl-alt-del-del-del will make it reboot, alt-sysrq-s-u-b works too21:39
kostkondarkad, if it's 17.10, you could try with 16.04, a bit older and still supported21:39
darkadkostkon, are you sure ?21:41
kostkondarkad, I'm sure, why?21:41
Bashing-om`mist: Well , that is totally unexpected . // now how did you install the 4.4.0-97 jernel .. as I consider what we are to do .21:42
Bashing-omkernel*21:42
darkadkostkon, are you sure that 16.04 is supported on pentium 4 and 17.10 not?21:42
kostkondarkad, I mean it's supported with updates. But it's a bit older, so it might boot21:43
doug16kakik, it's there in /lib/systemd/system21:43
`mistBashing-om: i'm doing a release upgrade21:43
darkadkostkon, thanks for your time anyway21:44
kostkondarkad, np21:44
akikdoug16k: sorry i haven't installed 17.10 yet. was just curious21:44
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Bashing-om`mist: And did it the release upgrade complete ? what shows for the sources ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' .21:46
`mistno it failed Bashing-om21:47
`mist/paste.ubuntu.com/25797424/21:48
Bashing-om`mist: Oh my :( show me the sources list file . see what we can do .21:48
adrian_1908It seems that CPU frequency scaling no longer happens on my system, this must be after I switched from 16.10 to 17.10, I hadn't even noticed until yesterday. Did anyone else report anything? Afaik I didn't have to do anything before, it worked out of the box. Sandybridge-E processor.21:49
`misthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25797433/21:49
`mistthis is what do-release-upgrade says http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797446/21:51
Bashing-om`mist: Yeah . Good news is that you are pulling from the xenial repo . and we knew [your: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797151/] we have a problem with the meta packaging " iU  linux-generic " . where we want that leading iU to be ii in all instances .21:55
`mistSooo is he going to survive doctor? =x21:57
TJ-Bashing-om: `mist ... I think the key is to solve "Can't open /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf" since that is what is causing dpkg to fail when running the postint script21:58
`mistah22:01
Bashing-om`mist: TJ- :)) --  Let's try this and see what the package manager will do for us now : ' sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo apt clean ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C ' . see where we go from here . See what then happens with " /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf" .22:01
TJ-Bashing-om: if the release-upgrade failed with the initramfs-tools package then /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf may have been in the middle of a rename move. Check for that with "ls -al /etc/initramfs-tools/"22:02
Bashing-omTJ-: `mist ^^ will as I have it up on my 16.04 install to compare .22:03
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`mistso all of those commands are basically failing with the same errors Bashing-om22:05
`mistso this might be a problem22:05
`mistls: cannot access '/etc/initramfs-tools/': No such file or directory22:05
Bashing-om`mist: Then TJ- is so wise !! .. we got to find a way to fix that script .22:06
Bashing-om`mist: ^^ a fact try as ' ls -al /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf ' .22:08
`mistno such file22:10
TJ-Bashing-om: `mist so the directory is missing!?!22:11
`mistaye22:11
TJ-`mist: which release version were you starting from, and which were you upgrading to?22:11
Bashing-omTJ-: Cinfirmeing is not a typo on the posters part :)22:11
Bashing-omTJ-: `mist If that file is missing . what else is hosed up ??.. Is it worth the time and effort to try and fix this install ?22:13
`mistwell one of them is my plex server.... i guess i can back up the db and stuff22:14
Bashing-om`mist: I am all for trying to save it . IF it is possible , I will always defer to TJ-'s knowledge .22:16
MortyTSi'm unable to install amdgpu-pro driver.. any idea what to do about these errors? https://pastebin.com/NhKfPJaG22:17
TJ-`mist: which release version were you starting from, and which were you upgrading to?22:17
ervawhat happend if i accept EULA license terms ??22:18
ervais it legal to download ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?22:19
tgm4883erva: did you read the license?22:19
pcno22:19
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ervai wanted to install notepad plus plus22:20
Bashing-om!info ttf-mscorefonts-installer artful | erva22:20
ubottuerva: ttf-mscorefonts-installer (source: msttcorefonts): Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.6ubuntu2 (artful), package size 26 kB, installed size 92 kB22:20
tgm4883erva: that's not an answer to my question...22:20
aolimi'm tring to install the latest docker ce but i get "package docker-ce has no install candidate" even when following https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/ "installing from repo" to a tee22:20
Guest81194who am i nickserv22:21
tgm4883aolim: what release are you on?22:21
ubuntu_14 04 flashdrive22:21
ervai did read the terms22:21
oerheksttf-mscorefonts-installer is part of ubuntu-restricted-extras22:21
aolimoh sorry zesty tgm488322:22
ervaso your advice guys22:22
ervathat i should not accept the terms22:22
Bashing-omerva: If you do not accept the terms , fine .. then will not install .22:23
ervabashing-om should i accept the terms ?22:23
daxerva: #ubuntu does not provide legal advice. If you are concerned about the licensing of non-free software that you want to use, please consult a qualified professional.22:24
Bashing-omerva: If you want the fonts; then there is no other option .22:24
ervais it legal to download it ?? this is my question22:25
tgm4883erva: we are not lawyers...22:25
tgm4883erva: even if we were, surely we wouldn't know the laws in whatever jurisdiction you happen to be in22:26
ervai live in germany it's really hard to know22:26
jerichowasahoaxerva: you're fine22:26
oerheksfor personal use, you are fine22:27
ervai want to install exe apps22:27
jerichowasahoaxfor being in the european union in general, you're fine22:27
Sveta`erva: as an alternative, you could use #law or #gnu or the fsf has a licencing compliance team (but the fsf's one is only for free software licences, not for proprietary stuff)22:27
Sveta`erva: ubuntu allows you to install exe apps using wine, but we are not familiar with their eula. reading the terms of use and licence agreements is up to you22:27
ervai did it with wine22:28
Sveta`erva: you need to read the terms and consider whether (a) your usage would be fit for them and (b) whether you find these terms ethical. often they are not ethical. some people consider proprietary software to be non-ethical either22:28
Sveta`erva: does it work?22:29
tgm4883personally I'd just use a native text editor...22:29
ervayes it works22:29
Sveta`notepad++ is foss, its eula should be ok22:29
oerheks!ide22:29
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator22:29
tgm4883Sveta`: I don't believe that was ever the question22:30
ervabut the next step is accepting the terms22:30
Sveta`tgm4883: well he/she was installing notepad++ with wine and asked 'should i accept the terms', and i suspect its terms of use are harmless so..22:30
oerhekspress space22:30
Sveta`erva: read them and make a decision, it's legally binding in some circumstances22:31
tgm4883Sveta`: the question regarding the terms was for  ttf-mscorefonts-installer, not notepad++22:31
Sveta`erva: then ask a next question22:31
cerveiraTJ-, it was windows related. I opened 445 in firewall and now it's working. Tks22:31
Sveta`tgm4883: oh ok22:31
Sveta`i would not recommend to use mscorefonts :)22:31
TJ-cerveira: makes sense22:31
oerheksspace, or [tab]22:31
Sveta`apart from that, just make a choice yourself22:31
Sveta`its your computer so you decide what to put and what not to put22:32
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Sveta`my recommendation is based on the licensing, i like to be able to modify the fonts i use. this may not be the case for you.22:32
cerveiraTJ-, now I know that lubuntu is using only 445 for lan.22:32
ervaHmmm alright but i thought this was clear22:33
oerheksRisuschartulaphobia22:33
jerichowasahoaxerva: since when are licenses ever clear22:33
ervalike torrent is clear22:34
Sveta`whatever 'clear' means in this context22:34
ervausing torrent is illegal22:34
ervaand everybody know that22:34
* tgm4883 sighs22:34
jerichowasahoaxonly if you don't have permission to download whatever file it is by torrent22:34
Sveta`erva: no, torrent is ok, ubuntu can be downloaded over torrent officially22:35
tgm4883erva: do you have a non-licensing question?22:35
tgm4883as in, an actual support question22:35
`mistTJ-: i'm going from the latest 14 to 1622:35
Sveta`erva: torrent is bad only when you start to download illegal content over it22:35
TJ-`mist: what do you get from "dpkg -l initramfs-tools"22:36
ervaIMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This Microsoft End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you (either an individual or a single entity) and Microsoft Corporation for the Microsoft software accompanying this EULA, which includes computer software and may include associated media, printed materials, and "on-line" or electronic documentation ("SOFTWARE PRODUCT" or "SOFTWARE"). By exercising your rights to22:36
ervamake and use copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, you agree to be bound by the terms of this EULA. If you do not agree to the terms of this EULA, you may not use the SOFTWARE PRODUCT.22:37
ervaSOFTWARE PRODUCT LICENSE The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is protected by copyright laws and international copyright treaties, as well as other intellectual property laws and treaties. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed, not sold.22:37
erva1. GRANT OF LICENSE. This EULA grants you the following rights:22:37
erva • Installation and Use. You may install and use an unlimited number22:37
erva of copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT.22:37
jerichowasahoaxoh dear22:37
erva • Reproduction and Distribution. You may reproduce and distribute22:37
daxoh for god's sake22:37
erva an unlimited number of copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT; provided22:37
tgm4883lol22:37
tgm4883dax: thanks22:37
`mistiF  initramfs-tools                    0.122ubuntu8.9         all                    generic modular initramfs generator (automation)22:37
`mistbtw i tried rebooting the machine and it didntt come up after that22:38
`mistreverted to snapshot22:38
TJ-!info initramfs-tools trusty22:38
ubottuinitramfs-tools (source: initramfs-tools): tools for generating an initramfs. In component main, is required. Version 0.103ubuntu4.9 (trusty), package size 43 kB, installed size 366 kB22:38
`mistunfortunately, i didn't snapshot before starting the upgrade22:38
TJ-!info initramfs-tools xenial22:38
ubottuinitramfs-tools (source: initramfs-tools): generic modular initramfs generator (automation). In component main, is important. Version 0.122ubuntu8.9 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 124 kB22:38
TJ-`mist: so, it's got a partial install of the 16.04 version of initramfs-tools22:38
`misthmkay22:39
TJ-`mist: see if the package is in the archive: "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/initramfs-tools*"22:39
`mistthere is no archives folder22:40
TJ-`mist: are you sure you're looking into the correct rootfs? all these missing bits suggests either you're looking in the wrong file-system, or it's damaged beyond repair22:41
TJ-`mist: or, does that system have a separate file-system for /var/ maybe?22:42
`mistmy bad TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797744/22:42
TJ-`mist: empty! oh crikey, did you do that "apt clean" Bashing-om suggested? that'll have wiped it out22:42
`mistaye22:43
`mist=(22:43
TJ-`mist: are you using a liveISO to work with it right now?22:44
`mistno, reverted to snapshot taken right before reboot22:44
Bashing-omTJ-: `mist : initramfs-tools-core: ??22:44
TJ-`mist: oh, so it booted so far?22:44
`mistnono, it completely died22:44
`mistlike i said, i had to revert22:44
`mist(but not far back enough to be able to save the machine from the current state)22:45
TJ-`mist: so right now what are we looking at? the snapshot mounted in the original 14.04 system image?22:45
`mistSorry for being confusing. It's a vmware snapshot22:45
`mistso basically i just reverted the memory state to pre-reboot22:46
`mistWe're in the machine at the moment22:46
TJ-`mist: I'm confused. What host is running vmware?22:46
`mistesxi is running the vm22:47
`mistmetal -> esxi -> ubuntuvm22:47
TJ-`mist: ok, so if ubuntuvm won't boot how are you currently exploring its file-system?22:47
TJ-`mist: i'm trying to determine what tools you'll have available in order to do a recovery22:48
`mistSo what happened was i did do-release-upgrade, it failed, we did a bunch of commands. I then took a snapshot of the machine.22:48
`mistI then rebooted the machine and it didn't work22:49
`mistSo i reverted to the snapshot to pre-reboot22:49
`mistso you can completely disregard the reboot22:49
`mistit's as if we went back in time22:49
TJ-`mist: right, so the VM itself is running right now ?22:50
`mistyes22:50
TJ-`mist: right, that's what didn't make sense when you said it wouldn't boot. So, let's see if fetching/installing a couple of packages manually will get out of the bind.22:50
GeoHi, when running apt-get update:  "W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security Release' does not have a Release file." along with several others of the same genre... any thoughts as to why? fresh install22:51
TJ-`mist: I assume you're working as 'root' right now in the VM?22:51
`mistyes22:51
TJ-`mist: And does the VM have working network ?22:51
`mistyes22:52
TJ-`mist: OK. Then check you have "which wget" > /usr/bin/wget22:52
`mistyup that's in there22:52
Sveta`Geo: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? pastebin please :)22:52
zamanfI am looking for a way to limit the bandwidth on specific applications. Is it possible?22:52
TJ-`mist: then do "cd /var/cache/apt/archives; wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.122ubuntu8.9_all.deb"22:53
TJ-`mist: oh, and what architecture is the VM, amd64 or i386?22:53
`mistamd6422:53
TJ-`mist: ok, and now do "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools-core_0.122ubuntu8.9_all.deb"22:53
GeoSveta`: https://hub.docker.com/r/library/ubuntu/ ;)22:53
Sveta`zamanf: i am told that 'trickle' app does this22:53
Geolisted there... all matches22:54
rulliezamanf: do you know the port it uses? i think ethtool can do it22:54
`mistuhm22:54
`mistok, but isn't that the same file twice?22:54
TJ-`mist: no. one is -core. Once you have them let's try installing those two: "dpkg  -Ri ." (don't miss out the dot)22:55
Sveta`Geo: yours is like this, yes? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25797814/22:55
zamanfits a vmware machine22:55
`mistaha, i'm blind, yes i got those TJ-22:55
GeoSveta`: https://pastebin.com/aKwsZCdw22:55
Geosorry, just took me a second to get to it22:55
Geodidn't mean to be glib!22:56
TJ-`mist: if they install without errors reported, try "apt-get -f install" to see if the logjam on removing the kernel images can be sorted out22:56
`mistdpkg -i <package>?22:56
TJ-`mist: "dpkg -Ri ."22:56
`mistit failed, can't open /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf22:57
TJ-`mist: that's the dpkg command?22:57
`misthttps://thepasteb.in/p/58hgLmnDMkJIv22:58
anon000Hi all! Can you successfully boot up if all the dir-s in your / are symlinks?22:58
`mistbtw the core package installed correctly TJ-22:59
Bashing-om`mist: The dot !22:59
`mistoic, well that failed to22:59
`mistsame error22:59
TJ-`mist: it can't be; it contains  /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf23:00
`misthttps://thepasteb.in/p/zmh8olPl3PziZ23:01
TJ-`mist: try "dpkg --force-all -i initramfs-tools-core-_0.122ubuntu8.9_all.deb "23:01
Sveta`Geo: that's interesting... wait a few mins23:01
Geosure thing23:02
TJ-`mist: bah, i left a stray hyphen in there; you'll need to remove it before the underscore23:02
Geo...which part is intereseting?23:02
GeoI grepped out the comments, if thats what you're referencing23:02
Sveta`the part where it looks all good, but gives that error23:02
Geoah23:02
Geohaha23:02
Sveta`:)23:02
GeoI've tried looking at DNS as a source, but that all seems to be ok23:02
`mistafter the core-23:03
`mistOOoooo23:03
`mistpromising23:03
`misthttps://thepasteb.in/p/Rghnq9KM7PXIz23:04
Geohttps://pastebin.com/bMBr3c6323:04
Geo^^ Sveta`, thats the full paste of the errors23:04
Geomay give you more context23:04
Geobut you can see the IP is resolving properly (or so it appears)23:04
Sveta`Geo: I'm kind of wondering whether the last 4 lines are redundant,t hey're not in the example provided.. they have another url (security.ubuntu.com instead of archives.ubuntu.com)23:04
Geoso I'm just out of ideas23:04
TJ-`mist: now retry "apt-get -f install"23:05
Sveta`Geo: could copy from your example verbatim and re-try after making a spare copy of your current sources.list23:05
`mistit's asking if i want to remove some kernels23:05
`mistdo i go ahead?23:05
TJ-`mist: those are the ones you marked for purging earlier aren't they? the ones Bashing-om was helping you with?23:06
TJ-`mist: versions 3.13 or something?23:06
GeoSveta`: er, sorry... who copy what from where?23:06
`mistyes, those are he ones23:06
Sveta`Geo: well https://hub.docker.com/r/library/ubuntu/  does not have any security.ubuntu.com lines in the sources.list provided, but yours does23:06
Geook. Did you see the full paste though? it looks like every single one in that list fails23:07
TJ-`mist: go ahead then23:07
`mistoooooooo it's doing stuff but its not happy23:08
TJ-`mist: if that works we then know that the packaging system is getting back to normal, which means there's a chance to complete the upgrade23:08
`mistcomplaining about alot of things that are not there23:08
TJ-`mist: show us a pastebin23:08
Sveta`Geo: are you using docker? or you're using ubuntu as a desktop23:09
`mistit's still going  https://thepasteb.in/p/1jhnNyvMy55HB23:09
Geodocker23:09
`mistbut it's repeating that stuff for each kernel it seems23:09
TJ-`mist: that's OK --- if the kernels were already partially removed then those are expected23:10
`mistwell it seems to have ended well23:11
`misthttps://thepasteb.in/p/vghOzmMEK9Bi323:11
anon000hi! is it possible to boot up if your file hierarchy is not in the disk root but in a subdirectory on the disk?23:11
Sveta`Geo: I'm out of ideas, if you re-ask the whole question including details (usage of docker, full pastebin of the error message and your sources.list) someone may be able to propose a solution23:11
Geono worries, the 'it looks like it should work' is enough for the moment23:12
GeoI've done this 100 times the exact same way, so I don't think its me23:12
GeoI know the maintainer of that image, maybe they changed something. I'll ask him when he's around tomorrow23:12
TJ-`mist: OK, let's see if you can get back on-track: "apt full-upgrade"23:13
Geothanks for the sanity check though23:13
TJ-`mist: if things are missing I'm expecting it'll suggest installing a LOT of packages23:13
`mistnothing is missing23:13
`mist0 0 0 0 023:13
Bashing-om`mist: Looks promising .. show now a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .23:13
`mist0 upped, installed, remove and not upgraded23:13
Geowell, debian does the same thing23:14
Geoso maybe it *is* me23:14
Geomeh23:14
`misthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25797926/23:14
Sveta`Geo: please ping me and share the solution in here when you find it, I;d really like to know!23:14
TJ-`mist: "update-grub"23:14
`mistdone23:14
TJ-`mist: oh, that's already been triggered by the apt earlier!23:14
`mistbrb toilet23:15
TJ-`mist: right, so in *theory* it might be in a bootable state23:15
Geosure23:15
TJ-Geo: is there a transparent caching proxy in between your systems and the archive servers?23:17
TJ-Geo: your own, or your ISP?23:17
Bashing-om`mist: TJ- : See what grub has set ' ls -al /vmlinuz* /initrd.img* ' .23:17
GeoTJ-: this box is in a datacenter, so i don't know23:17
TJ-Bashing-om: the pastebin shows that  https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOzmMEK9Bi323:17
Geobut I would bet yes- they have all kinds of crazy stuff that makes my life miserable23:17
TJ-Geo: does debian have https for its archives? if so, try changing to those from http23:18
Geoapt on the host machine works fine23:18
TJ-Geo: I know Ubuntu doesn't unfortunately, or didn't last time I checked23:18
TJ-Geo: some local cache then? apt-cacher-ng or squid-deb-proxy maybe?23:19
GeoI'll ask the folks, i don't know myself23:19
`mistTJ-: it's pointing to 4.4 files23:19
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TJ-`mist: I'd say try a reboot23:19
`mistlets do it!23:20
erialdohello23:22
`mistomg it's alive!!!!23:23
erialdohow can i split the screen in four23:23
erialdoi have ubuntu mate23:23
zamanfis it possible to block the internet access for a specific application?23:23
TJ-`mist: sounds like time to party then :)23:23
erialdois there any way to split in four without the need of external apps23:23
`mistermahgurd23:23
`misti thought the vm was lost =)23:23
Bashing-om`mist: \o/ ! .. Rinse and repeat on machine 2 ??23:24
TJ-zamanf: it is, if you know it's process ID. the kernel firewall (controlled by the iptables application) can set rules based on process ID, but not name, so each time the application starts you'd have to re-write the rule. You could use a wrapper shell-script for that23:24
`misti was doing the same thing on both machines ^^23:24
`mistboth are alive23:25
TJ-`mist: something was wrong then for them both to break the same way23:25
erialdo@zmamanf i think there are external apps like douane23:25
zamanfok, I am going to google what you said23:25
zamanfty23:25
`mistTJ-: i assume i did the same mistake on both of them23:26
erialdoI need to split the screen in four in ubuntu mate23:26
`mistbecause i was able to save another 3 machines myself23:26
erialdoI can with two (ctrl + alt + 4 and 6)23:26
erialdobut not with four23:26
erialdoany idea?23:26
`mistthank you very much Bashing-om and TJ23:28
TJ-`mist: give them a through check-over :)23:28
Bashing-om`mist: TJ- gets the cookies on this one . :)23:28
`mist^^23:28
* TJ- hasn't even yet... I'm off to the kitchen for cookies for real.23:29
`misti've disabled automatic updates and will be managing everything through salt stack from here on23:29
`mistthats mainly the reason why i upgraded them. So i would only need one repo23:29
erialdosorry if I come as spammy but does anybody know to split the screen in four in ubuntu mate23:35
erialdoif it is possible23:35
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kusfedorahi guys, in general if I apt install docker.io in artful without adding any third party repository, can I assume I will get security updates from Ubuntu for docker.io as well?23:43
compdocfor that version23:47
kusfedorayeah, don't need the latest (:23:49
aariz.23:49
segersjerryHi, I'm trying to compile the newest version of mandelbulber, and it requires the joypad part of qt, and I can't figure out what package has it, do any of you know?23:58
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