[00:01] Is this it? https://github.com/ubports/terminal-app.git [00:06] omg flashing 16.04 on fp2 [00:06] i will cry so hard [00:06] X-) [00:06] if something goes wrong [00:08] Flashing version 1 from ubports-touch/16.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com to device FP2 [00:12] how long does it take? [00:12] 2017/10/23 03:06:15 Flashing version 1 from ubports-touch/16.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com to device FP2 … 69.25 MB / 69.25 MB [=========================================================================] 100.00 % 5.72 MB/s … 329.32 MB / 329.32 MB [=======================================================================] 100.00 % 5.23 MB/s [00:12] it's stuck at this step for 6 min now [00:16] 10 min, whelp? [00:16] still on fastboot and nothing is happening in terminal [00:20] 😢 [00:25] oh wow. i'm an idiot LOL [00:25] i pluged the charger instead of the usb cable [00:25] because dark [00:25] Project daily-hammerhead build #359: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/359/ [00:26] Project ota-push build #1207: SUCCESS in 53 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1207/ [00:29] Flashing version 1 from ubports-touch/16.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com to device FP2 … Can't boot recovery image [00:29] :/ [00:29] now what? restart? [00:30] @Tiago, Use the desktop apps scope. If its not installed, you can get it from the canonicle store or via apt-get. The icons should be there. [00:30] Pull down to update scope contents [00:44] @Marty McFly, i would personally like thw phone to have full LUKS support including when you connect external encrypted usb drive [00:46] @AlexiPistonrod, yeah, it is really good, add the fish shell on top and it is amazing: https://fishshell.com/ === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:12] KevinBessey was added by: KevinBessey [04:19] Hey everyone. Trying to install Ubuntu touch to Nexus 5. Using the snap ubportsinstall and got to the"please reboot to bootloader" and did it. [04:20] Now it's stuck there even though I've put it into fastboot. [04:20] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/fnKIuYeC/file_1417.jpg [04:21] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/GVzAy4Hb/file_1419.jpg [04:21] What now? [04:30] Shouldn't that happen automatically? [04:31] Anyway to move to recovery use your vol buttons. [04:31] It says no command [04:32] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/PgC2B1Dq/file_1421.jpg [04:32] Try pressing buttons [04:33] I saw locked state locked. You need to unlock your device. [04:33] Something like … ```fastboot oem unlock``` [04:34] @nfsprodriver, +1 [04:35] Ohhhhh. Ok. Didn't know that extra step. Ok. Now it says unlocked. [04:36] Then you can retry withh the installer [04:39] So still says reboot bootloader. Do I do recovery mode again? [04:40] If it says should to d, do it ;) [04:40] Never worked with that tool. [04:41] And in terminal it says debug:fastboot: wait for device [04:42] Hm, don't know, I must go now, bye! [04:42] Ok. Thanks for the help. [05:00] @KevinBessey, Did you get it work? [05:01] I have always used "ubuntu-device-flash" from linux terminal. [05:02] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash phablet-tools [05:04] sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=hammerhead \ --channel=ubports-touch/15.04/stable --bootstrap [05:06] @KevinBessey, Reboot device to OS once after unlocking bootloader. [05:25] @TheImpulson, Tried that several times. I've moved to the Marius snap and worked well, however not sure what to do next [05:25] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/aW7bxTT5/file_1423.jpg [05:25] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/gwv2QdOs/file_1425.jpg [05:25] Do I just wait? [05:26] Device doesn't shows anything? [05:26] Not sure what it was about the ubports-install that wouldn't move forward or detect the devices fastboot. [05:27] Just showing this: [05:27] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/r95tH86V/file_1427.jpg [05:27] you need to wait [05:27] there is no progress bar but it is dong install [05:28] Ok. Impatient.... Sorry. [05:28] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/0jBLp0xE/file_1429.jpg [05:29] Hooray! Thanks so much guys. [05:29] So, to conclude: ubports-install didn't detect fastboot. Marius snap worked well. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [06:22] Oshadhi was added by: Oshadhi [06:23] I wish you guys well in developing Unity8 and all the other projects you guys undertake. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:27] @Oshadhi, Welcome Oshadhi [06:36] From Wiki: … "WARNING: 16.04-based Ubuntu Touch is in an early state of development and usable as a daily driver for the moment." … I think someone has forgotten NOT before "usable" :P [06:39] Depends on use case.. 😝 [07:01] Project click-import build #33: SUCCESS in 5.2 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/33/ [07:01] Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #168: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/168/ [07:01] Project ota-push build #1208: SUCCESS in 0.5 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1208/ [07:03] I have (another) question, is Meizu Pro 6 supported by UBports? I mean Android version [07:07] Ops, sorry, I mean Meizu Pro 5 Android version === JanC is now known as Guest95859 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [07:14] @Akira_rulezZ, In discussions it appears that there are several different versions with the same name. Some are 'China' builds and may need changing to 'International' for example === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:22] Any one know how to install ubports in moto g4 plus [07:22] Any one done this === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:24] @Stereofont, The differences between China and international aren't only the sw installed? Just like Xiaomi [07:28] Stop it [07:29] Sorry [07:29] When i touch on this [07:29] It will happen [07:29] @Vijaypraj, It is not an officially supported device [07:29] Ok [07:30] But it is possible ? [07:30] Unofficially [07:31] @Akira_rulezZ, I am not an expert but I believe it is similar. One name, several variants [07:33] @Vijaypraj, I didn't hear of anyone trying that. Motorola are not so extreme in proprietary control as some other manufacturers so it might be a project if you want to start it and spend some months on it [07:37] Ok any one can help in this project [07:40] probably you should try with halium first... I think that @UniversalSuperBox is working on the G4 (don't know if it's the plus or not) [07:41] @LarreaMikel, I thought that was G5 but perhaps my memory is wrong [07:42] 👍 [07:42] @Stereofont, Oh, yes... sorry. He's working on the G5. [07:43] It is possible to install on memory card and boot into Mobile [07:43] Something like live usb [07:44] no idea. [07:44] Why not try [07:44] Any one help me in this project [07:44] Let's try to do this [07:46] For work in all devices [07:46] @samzn where can we see your WhatsApp progress? [07:54] No. It is ARM architecture built on an Android base. It is not at all like a PC [07:56] Lineage is stock Android with some parts removed. A lot of the compatibility remains. UT is completely new and alien, like grafting a horse head onto a tree [07:56] @Stereofont, Errrrrrr UT uses Libhybris, the device's Android kernel and stuff like ADB [08:03] Duel boot possible? [08:04] Vdragon was added by: Vdragon [08:05] Fwd from Vdragon: I would like to ask if I could get rid of the touch stack and use Xorg instead for my productivity sake [08:05] Fwd from Vdragon: I don't really care about messing with the root image as I can flash it back [08:06] FM. Someone need perm banning. [08:06] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/FH3PI0pF/file_1431.jpg [08:23] Project daily-fp2 build #377: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/377/ [08:25] Project ota-push build #1209: SUCCESS in 1 min 27 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1209/ [08:31] Welcome @Vdragon . Unfortunately I personally can not answer your question. Only sending a warm welcome. [08:35] @Vdragon, No, that's not possible without basically creating everything from scratch [08:49] @Vdragon, very interesting question and I would also like to know what would be the challenge. however you mentionned productivity and i wonder how so. i think that productivity would decrease drastically if u ran xorg on mobile form factor and with mobile input like osk. [09:05] You'll be rebuilding almost every component for x, this does not make sense to do [09:06] @jja2000, Okay so I exaggerated 😎 [09:08] @Vijaypraj, No. Not at the moment. On most phones there is limited capacity even if technically possible [09:09] Hmm [09:17] @KrisJacewicz, I have a 10 inch tablet with bluetooth keyboard and mouse so it isn't an issue. … The problem is that the input method support isn't quite well on touch(even worse on the X apps scope), which on X.org stack is rather usable. … Basically I'd want the desktop stack like the initial prototype build on Nexus 7(2012/tilapia) [09:22] @Vdragon, i see, i dont know enough to tell how significant would be the advantage of the input. … But i really think that every other aspect would decrease productivity. Off course I just guess. I somehow am more excited about further improving of xorg emulation via xmir and things like full native support of more widgetsets under mir especially gtk+. … But the concept of xorg environment on the phone instead of mir is interesting to me as [09:22] hack. I think though, there were so many weak aspects of nota bene outdated xorg that it was why Wayland was started. So maybe Wayland support via something analogic to xmir would be more interwsting from the productivity point of view. still all this super interesting. [09:23] and i also want to add that i pwrsonally favor xmir scenarios over libertine or other containers. but I like that there are all these alternatives for you to pick whatever tickles your fancy. [09:49] Building an X11 based stack for the phone would lead you into difficulties. Apps (or at least their toolkits) would need to understand the constraints of working on a phone and adapt. For convergence they also need to understand the current "mode" and adapt. … Unity8 took the approach of providing the adaption in the window manager, this provides a consistent behaviour across applications. But doing this requires a much richer "language" in t [09:49] conversation between the application and window manager than is provided by X11. … Xmir (and similarly Xwayland) can convert between X11 based toolkits and Mir (or Wayland) servers, but while improvements can be made over the current implementations they are inherently limited by the "vocabulary" of X11. [09:51] @alan_griffiths, very nice way to put it! [09:51] i would mostly like xmir to report correct dpi values [09:52] because some xorg/gtk apps actually can adapt to highDPI scenarios [09:52] but xmir reports a fake dpi (and appears to be just a constant) [09:52] another on my mimd although not a big thong for me, is window decorations for multi windows [09:53] and eventually a full z-order stacking with mir native windows [09:53] currwntly multi window apps all arw within a singlw background window sort of like MDI children on Windows [09:54] OR if thw root (lowest) window could be fully transparwnt that would seem like it wasnt there at all [09:55] i know about multi qindowing not being the mobile form factor standard but pwrsonally i like the idea [09:56] although transparwnt root xmir windpw would not fo much in a staged mode because backgroundnis always the acopes app [09:56] but if you switch to a windowed mode your UT device becomes just like desktop Ubu tu [09:56] Ubuntu [09:56] and the tramsparency trick would make it even more so [09:57] i personally love the feel of the windowed mode esp on horizontal orientation, on the phone you feel like on desktop and the dash bar finally makes sense to me [09:59] @KrisJacewicz I'm not sure exactly where things were left when Canonical abandoned Unity8. And the ubports stack currently lags behind that work. (E.g. it uses Mir 0.24, not Mir 0.26). … There was work being done to provide better display info through Mir and Xmir. For multi-windowed apps, the "-rootless" option is needed by Xmir. … HTH [10:00] @alan_griffiths, wowni didnt know about rootlesss mode, thank ypu! [10:02] currently when I use xdpyinfo it always reports 96, either in container or directly on the phone via ssh or terminal app [10:03] i imagine that in a container you coult manually edit xorg conf files but on the phone i wish it would just report the real one [10:03] just like mirout command === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:05] i imagine that ot should be possible to make it so the dpi info api within emulated xorg maps back to the mirout information [10:05] if mirout is reporting the correct value, then Xmir is fixable. (I'd first try updating to the latest Canonical version - it may well "just work" with Mir 0.24) [10:06] @alan_griffiths, yes mirout is reporting correct value, but gtk apps arw not aware of it. [10:09] @alan_griffiths, I believe such constraints can be tolerated by user if the device's screen is big enough (id. est. using a Tablet as a regular tablet PC) … It would be great if someone work on porting the existing X stack and even the underlying ubuntu system to the existing tablet form factor(?) ubuntu touch product while others working on improving the touch stack [10:10] i managed to make app launcher wirh xmir flags that first start light window manager (openbox) then a gtk apps, and it works, but it is not an optimal way because the window manager is running per up not sharable with other apps on the same device [10:11] if there was a way to have one simple window manager loaded in memory once [10:11] to be provided within xmir to every window of every running app [10:11] i wonder how difficult that would be [10:16] The only downside I see to that approach is that all the X activity would appear to U8 as one app. (In theory Xmir *could* create a separate Mir connection for each client, but it doesn't.) [10:19] @alan_griffiths, i was wondering if this could be worked around by providing window manager as a service/deamon, so when each app thinks it starts its own window manager instance it acrually only starts a lightweight client which links back to a centrally running windoe manager provider with some sort of shared memory [10:20] i imagine that every xmir main app window just starts with a client to such a service [10:20] it gets initialized before the app kicks in [10:21] so by thebtime it starts it already starts withbwindow decorations loaded [10:21] indont even think it would need to be a real window manager [10:21] jusy some internal xmir thing [10:23] the app could think there are no window decorations and xmir "canvas" could just paint the window decorations over the app [10:23] with area mapping [10:23] so when event happens over window decoration the xmir captures it and doesnt forward it into the app [10:23] rather sends window signals directly [10:23] lile resizing moving etc [10:24] Anyone managed to compile the keyboard component? [10:28] Your usage is different, but what I do running X apps on a Mir desktop is run one Xmir session for each application: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/examples/miral-shell/miral-xrun.sh [10:31] @alan_griffiths, i actually dont call zmir sireclty rather use .desktop lainchers optimized for xmir ao actually i realize now that i dont know how this happens in thw backgrouns, one shared session or a session per app [10:32] @alan_griffiths, just chexked the script, very nice one! [11:30] anyone managed to flash 16.04/devel on fp2? [11:30] i keep getting " Can't boot recovery image" error [11:30] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/313 [11:49] @popescu_sorin, I'm sorry, it's devel [11:55] @PhoenixLandPirate, that's what i was trying to figure out, if it's just a normal devel thing or i am doing something wrong [12:32] surendarlp was added by: surendarlp [12:35] Are my datas secured in "KeePit" ??? Any suggestions? [12:35] Or any cool alternatives? [12:36] I need a secured store for values [12:37] You can try keeweb [12:43] Stasbs009 was added by: Astellias [12:45] Hi) [12:47] Hi [12:48] greetings [12:55] Project daily-mako build #152: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-mako/152/ [12:55] Project ota-push build #1210: SUCCESS in 0.86 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1210/ [13:09] I have some problems with some web radio players found in App store, when I listen music, suddenly (after one or two songs) the app turn off and the touch become irresponsive, after that the phone reboot, could it be beacuse of low level HW of my BQ or is it a knew issue? [13:24] Welcome @surendarlp [13:29] @bastos777, 🙏 [13:39] @Akira_rulezZ, There is only one app that works for me: flas app, but at the moment I have similar problems with cloud music app, doesn't crash but after first song stops playing, only deleting all with Tweek tool helps. [13:47] @Dominik, Dominik Thanks again for your help. It worked. I have LibreOffice on my Ubuntu Touch phone 😃 [13:47] @Milan Korecky, Deleting what? [13:48] @Akira_rulezZ, Cashe, data [13:52] @Milan Korecky, I want to try, I like to hear music with my phone, I hope it solves definitely [13:53] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/QN06OAW0/file_1432 [14:05] anyone knows how/where can i get qml-private package? [14:26] hi :) [14:27] Hi! [14:30] News! … https://soundcloud.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-news-desk-171023 [14:34] @wayneoutthere, YAY !! 🎊 [14:42] Radu was added by: Radu [14:45] Welcome Radu . [14:48] Nice to meet ya guys [14:50] \o welcome [14:52] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cfGXq5Pd/file_1433 [16:03] Johannes Roos was added by: Johannes Roos [16:03] Welcome Johannes ! [16:04] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7aTmjFD5/file_1434.mp4 [16:04] can anyone feel 900? [16:18] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/lHsKJznw/file_1435.mp4 [16:22] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0Do66yOX/file_1436.mp4 [16:37]