[07:23] <Tribaal> tarzeau: I'm not sure I understand what we failed you about: what did you want Ubuntu improved for?
[07:56] <tarzeau> many things. i'd have to dig out the things. 5 years old. unity bugs, lightdm bugs (still not fixed btw), and both got irrelevant now
[07:56] <tarzeau> the rest we work around/fix ourselves. software packaging as well (via debian)
[08:21] <Tribaal> ah, yeah, desktop bugs I'm afraid I couldn't help much with anywa :)
[08:21] <Tribaal> (except pinging relevant people)
[08:26] <Tribaal> Right now I hope Mark decides on the name soon so we can move forward with B :)
[10:36] <tarzeau> Tribaal: why did mark chose gnome? and not gnustep?
[10:46] <Tribaal> That was the desktop team's decision as far as I know
[10:47] <Tribaal> You could ask in #ubuntu-desktop , people there will know the answer
[10:48] <Tribaal> Mark reviews the strategies for various teams, but usually doesn't get more involved
[10:48] <Tribaal> But he decides for the names, still
[11:18] <tarzeau> ah k
[11:18] <tarzeau> are you using snaps?
[11:19] <tarzeau> i've tried because of bugs.debian.org/730638
[11:19] <tarzeau> however i wasn't able to launch the snap as user :(
[11:19] <tarzeau> now i'm packaging it myself
[11:21] <tarzeau> is the name after a, 1810 already out?
[11:21] <tarzeau> ubuntu 18.04 ships stone age versions of my packages
[11:21] <tarzeau> can't wait for the new archive sync
[11:44] <Tribaal> tarzeau: yeah I use snaps for some desktop apps of mine, and for juju
[11:44] <Tribaal> tarzeau: that's a good use case indeed - snaps also always keep up to date
[11:44] <Tribaal> (ah, and my passowrd manager is in a snap too)
[11:45] <Tribaal> tarzeau: no, 18.04 will be released in April 2018, and the name has not been announced yet
[11:45] <Tribaal> so it's not yet open (the archives are not open)
[11:46] <Tribaal> we (all of Ubuntu) are waiting for Mark to decide on the name :p
[11:50] <tarzeau> ok
[11:50] <Tribaal> tarzeau: what libraries do you need in particular, out of curiosity?
[11:53] <tarzeau> that are not packaged yet? for the moment only this cloudcompare software
[11:56] <Tribaal> tarzeau: oh, that's a good candidate for a snap then, yes
[11:57]  * Tribaal didn't know about cloudcompare before
[12:21] <tarzeau> it is already snap packaged
[12:21] <tarzeau> however it ends with