[07:23] tarzeau: I'm not sure I understand what we failed you about: what did you want Ubuntu improved for? [07:56] many things. i'd have to dig out the things. 5 years old. unity bugs, lightdm bugs (still not fixed btw), and both got irrelevant now [07:56] the rest we work around/fix ourselves. software packaging as well (via debian) [08:21] ah, yeah, desktop bugs I'm afraid I couldn't help much with anywa :) [08:21] (except pinging relevant people) [08:26] Right now I hope Mark decides on the name soon so we can move forward with B :) [10:36] Tribaal: why did mark chose gnome? and not gnustep? [10:46] That was the desktop team's decision as far as I know [10:47] You could ask in #ubuntu-desktop , people there will know the answer [10:48] Mark reviews the strategies for various teams, but usually doesn't get more involved [10:48] But he decides for the names, still [11:18] ah k [11:18] are you using snaps? [11:19] i've tried because of bugs.debian.org/730638 [11:19] however i wasn't able to launch the snap as user :( [11:19] now i'm packaging it myself [11:21] is the name after a, 1810 already out? [11:21] ubuntu 18.04 ships stone age versions of my packages [11:21] can't wait for the new archive sync [11:44] tarzeau: yeah I use snaps for some desktop apps of mine, and for juju [11:44] tarzeau: that's a good use case indeed - snaps also always keep up to date [11:44] (ah, and my passowrd manager is in a snap too) [11:45] tarzeau: no, 18.04 will be released in April 2018, and the name has not been announced yet [11:45] so it's not yet open (the archives are not open) [11:46] we (all of Ubuntu) are waiting for Mark to decide on the name :p [11:50] ok [11:50] tarzeau: what libraries do you need in particular, out of curiosity? [11:53] that are not packaged yet? for the moment only this cloudcompare software [11:56] tarzeau: oh, that's a good candidate for a snap then, yes [11:57] * Tribaal didn't know about cloudcompare before [12:21] it is already snap packaged [12:21] however it ends with